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O my rubber nen was fine This shit right here was fucking retarded

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O my rubber nen was fine

This shit right here was fucking retarded as fuck and came outta nowhere.

What the hell was Togashi thinking?
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Now that we all know Hisoka is fodder garbage

who would win between Kuroro and Illumi?
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>>157484067
>O my rubber nen was fine
stopped reading there. you're fucking pathetic dude, get it together
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>>157484100
Probably still Chrollo, but it'd be close.
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>>157484067
>O my rubber nen was fine
It's not.
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But left caused the beat down of the stupid cat so it was acceptable.
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Gon shouldn't of been healed and stayed a crippled for life, he deserves it for killing best girl.
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Gon's use of his Nen was totally fine on multiple levels.

>Under the right conditions nen can give great power with great restrictions

Gon paid a price and got a fuckton of power temporarily for it. It was also a great way to show how much Kite meant to him.

It also helped that Meruem wasn't actually defeated by Gon's powerup, which actually had fuckall to do with it. Gon got revenge, but didn't wrap up the entire arc by himself.

>Alluka

Yeah, the entire arc is a mess. They set up all these complex rules and regulations for the power to explain why this character hasn't been relevant before and hype up the cost that will potentially have to be paid, and then they give Killua the ability to ignore all of them so the arc resolves with no real tension beyond the phantom "But now Illumi will hunt Killua down" which we know means basically fucking nothing.

>O my rubber nen was fine.

I disagree. It was a very sloppy way to wrap up the fight. Would have been smarter to have Hisoka use his powers to feign his own death or something instead (e.g. binding his heart and lungs to silence them until he lost consciousness) instead.

Instead Hisoka gets a bullshit powerup after surviving a period of death that should have left him brain damaged if not completely impossible to resuscitate.
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>>157484476
pitou was a total bitch though
also it's male
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>>157484518
>surviving a period of death that should have left him brain damaged
last time i checked HxH humans have very little to do with real humin beans
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>>157484067
>came out of nowhere
speed reader who can't into foreshadowing
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Why is gon the most bland character in his series?
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>>157485495
He's wild and can't be contained. The opposite of bland.
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>>157485284
>foreshadowing
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>>157485284
Yes because Alluka was hinted at plenty of times before gon's near death state durrr
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>>157484067
Togashi is a hack, simple as that. No a single arc/mini arc in HxH ended in a satisfying way, having to rely on asspulls half of the time.
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Gon's a fucking murderer.
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>>157484476

She was to good for this world anon. I was hoping that maybe, Gon will convince her to not kill anyone but I knew I was just lying to myself.
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>>157484100
Chrollo only won because Hisoka wanted a challenge and left him months to prepare everything while going in like a cocky retard. The guy could not even kill him with his "there's a 100% chance that you will die" bullshit plan and even ended up losing two friends. And many more friends will die if Togashi continues. I don't know how more delusional can you get.
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>>157486040
>contradicting yourself in the same post
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The only asspull was Meruem starting to care for humans. That is not a human trait so it shouldn't have been part of his mind at his birth; that made him a shitty villain.
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>>157486082
I believe you lack reading comprehension capabilities anon. Where's the contradiction?
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>>157485766
?
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>>157486182
>Chrollo only won
>The guy could not kill him
>ButHisokaLostGuys!
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>>157486233
Hisokafags are brain damaged, more news at 11.
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>>157486233
Chrollo won the fight, since Hisoka was pronounced "dead". But he ended up not being truly dead because Chrollo was careless. I'm beginning to think that you are autistic for real, I'm sorry I was rude to you if that's the case.
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>>157486211
>longer hair+taller than the flashback in Election
Why did they take demon-child outside for a family photo?
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>>157486376
No one won the fight. The referee died, so no verdict could be officially registered.
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>>157486040
Chrollo killed him, though.
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>>157486376
Hisoka was not merely pronounced "dead", he actually died. Hisoka even made his ability work only after his death. Simply put, Chrollo killed Hisoka and Hisoka was truly dead.

>>157486428
Togashi confirmed Hisoka lost. It was a deathmatch and Hisoka died.
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>>157484100
Given how Zeno and Silva praised Chrollo back when he didn't have the bookmark, it isn't unreasonable to assume that Chrollo is stronger than Illumi now.
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>>157486493
>>157486507
>469 posts of Hisokafag sperging out over objectivity once again incoming
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>>157484067

>Gon power up
Worked within the confines of preestablished nen rules. Gon got an absurd power up and was restricted/punished accordingly.

>Alluka
Yeah, I'm not a fan of how this was handled. If Alluka is demonstrated to be related to the dark continent and her fundamental nature expounded upon, some level of plausibility is perhaps salvageable.

>O my rubber nen
Same as Gon powerup, with exception being the length of time spent without oxygen and heart function. Then again Hisoka is more or less superhuman by real life standards even without nen, and David Blaine was able to hold his breath in an underwater tank for 17 minutes.
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>>157486211
Why doesn't that look like Alluka at all?
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>>157484067
We'll never know because Togashi is going to die before we find out.
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>>157487275
The same reason most of Togashi's characters don't look the same as their first appearance?
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>>157487673
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>>157486551
>David Blaine was able to hold his breath in an underwater tank for 17 minutes.
His heart was still pumping the oxygen remaining in his blood throughout his body. It actually takes a while to deplete even if you're not breathing.

Hisoka's heart was stopped, which meant there was ZERO circulation and no oxygen supplied whatsoever. He should be brain-damaged as shit, in addition to having infracted heart tissue (which cannot just be easily healed away).
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>>157484724
This. People need to remember that Togashi pulled even worse shit in YYH, this is nothing new.

That said, as dumb as the Gon-san/Alluka development was, at least it ended the fucking Ant Arc finally. It really had run on far too long.
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>>157487836
Should be seeing redesigns again when the manga comes back.
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buckets
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>>157486040
Chrollo cheated mate
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>>157484748
no u
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>>157484100
It'll depend on whether Illumi could get a needle into Chrollo's head before Chrollo counters him with a Skill hunter ability. They probably have similar strength since they both have low enhancement affinity, but I'd wager Chrollo has more hand-to-hand experience, since he could hold his own against Hisoka, who is physically stronger with better enhancement.
With Kortopi and Shalnark's deaths he'd find it harder to counter Illumi's needlemen with equal numbers since order stamp only works with corpses and he can't create corpses with gallery fake anymore. If they fight in a crowded area then a likely scenario would be Chrollo using convert hands to bait Illumi into attacking and then using sun-and-moon to blow him up.

I'd wager on Chrollo winning.
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>>157484067
Nanika might be the most "pussy out" moment in the story of anime and manga, way to totally shit in your biggest arc after working so hard on it.
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>>157488472
This is the same universe where 10 year olds who can't use nen are able to deadlift 4 tons and run for 40 miles without getting tired. Normal humans can go around 5 minutes with their heart stopped before they start getting permanent brain damage, so it it really that much of a stretch to think superhuman HxH humans can last 10-15?
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>>157484067
>Hating Alluka and Nanika
OP for shit taste
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>>157484476
>girl
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>>157486130
>Altruism is not a human trait.

Please, just stop posting altogether
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>>157494342
I think you might be legitimately brain damaged or probably 13.
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>>157495255
Hisoka and the rest of them are physiologically abnormal compared to ordinary humans. That was clear in the first arc. People can't read
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Does anyone feel that the Nen shit is tacked on later? With the exam arc, there's absolutely no indication of Nen whatsoever.

It's crazy to think that Killua wouldn't know anything about Nen and had to learn it together with Gon after the Hunter Exam arc
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>>157498786
So people can normally can toss playing cards as if they were blades?
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>>157498786
If Killua was more cooperative and willingly to take over the family business he probably would of been taught nen. They probably have a coming of age thing when they get taught it after being a good boy killing everyone they've been told to kill.
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>>157489225
Fuck Gon, that piece of shit had no right to kill her especially when he was let way worse people get away with their crimes. Pitou deserved better and could of redeemed herself like all other ants that sided with humanity.
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How come Gon was the only one who traded his life for a short uber nen power up?

There were plenty of other hunters and fighters who had no chance whatsoever and they knew it. They would have died either way so why didn't they go for the tradeoff for nen power like Gon did?

Is Gon the only one able to accomplish this? Kiulla has something different but kind fo similar thing going on with his chains where he can't use them on others outside the ryodan
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>>157500218
Because muh limitless potential. He actually had a resource to pull from, most people don't, especially grown hunters who had already reached their potential.
I mean yes it was foreshadowed throughout the series but that doesn't make the basic concept any less contrived.
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>>157484724
I thought swamp algae in the fight against Rando was Yusuke's "Rubber Nen" moment.
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>>157500218
In that situation most people would strive to live, not commit suicide.
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Leoreo deserves to be the MC now, I'm sick of him being treated like a side character.
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>>157500843
Im sure he will get his own arc, as little as it might be, but it will probably take years for this one to finish.
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>>157484067
>came outta nowhere.

Illumi - Mizuki - Killua - ??? - Kalluto

It was always hinted that there was a missing Zoldyck brother
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>>157484067
O
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>>157502004
MY
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>>157502049
RUBBER
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>>157500843
He was MC in the election
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What's the status of this? Is it still two chapters per year or is it safe to start reading again?
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>>157502098
NEN
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>>157502126
The last chapter was june last year i think.
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>>157502110

Nah, he was Ging dark horse candidate. Though now that he's a Zodiac and he can use his bluffing and negotiating abilities, I expect some focus on him. Not much, because this arc is never going to be finished, but something at least.
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>>157500218
>zoro's hair
Why must you do this?
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>>157484067
>implying HxH isnt a series tailor-made for making up rules and powers as you go along
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>>157501932
The last 1-2 letters of each character's name is the first 1-2 letters of the brother that comes after.

The "Mi" in Illumi is for Milluki

The "Ki" is for Killua

The "A" is for Alluka

And the "Ka" is for Kalluto

Togashi has put time into introducing this character. And with the introduction of Nanika comes the Dark Continent.

Everything that has happened happens for a reason.
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>>157500218
Killua has just as much potential as Gon as stated by Wing.

But it takes a certain kind of person to go to such lengths to do what Gon did, if they were in his shoes. Most people aren't insane.
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>>157498786
I preferred the feel of the Hunter Exam arc where things felt "grounded"

Not a big fan of Nen desu
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>>157500079
>way worse people
Who else systematically slaughtered millions of innocent civilians?
Pitou had the highest body count by far, she was the least redeemable.
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>>157497348
>boy (female)
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>>157502126
>two chapters per year
I fucking wish. It's been over a year and still nothing. The hiatus before the current one was almost 3 years.
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>>157502483
Marimo
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>>157502848
Genthru and his buddies are still out there blowing up people for fun, also if anyone the Phantom Troupe as a whole have the highest body count. Kirapika isn't even trying to stop them anymore and Hisoka now has to take over Kirapika's job to take down those murderous spiders.
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>>157503080
Genthru blew up people specifically to decrease the number of people to collect more cards. His methods were immoral but it broke no rules. That doesn't mean go goes off killing people left and right.
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>>157484067
All three were ok in concept but didn't work because of some details in the execution:
>Rubber Nen
Nen staying active after death was established and made sense. The issue is that Hisoka died of asphyxia, which means that his brain was already dying before his heart stopped, and the Nen kicked in about 30 minutes after death, meaning that Hisoka's blood would have begun coagulating by the time his heart restarted.

>Gon-san
The logic behind the power up makes perfect sense in Nen rules, but Gon gained too much from it. Gon should have become powerful enough to barely kill a surprised/distracted Pitou, not enough to be a threat to Meruem.

>Alluka
This one actually has three issues, so it is the biggest asspull in the series:
Alluka is far too powerful and her existence was far too convenient. Having a wish machine in your basement is too convenient even if it is a shitty wish machine.
The whole season is used to set up the drawback of Alluka's power, and it was a drawback that could have been exploited somehow. Going with "Oh, Killua doesn't have to pay for his wishes" because Alluka loves him was disappointing.
Gon was healed without visible consequences. Yeah, he loses his Nen. The NEXT story arc.
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>>157505936
Where did you get this timeframe of 30 minutes?
Judging by Hisoka's comment about the paramedics coming in 10 minutes which was at least a few minutes before the explosion and the newscaster mentioning that the explosion happened moments earlier, the streets were littered with ambulances, 30 minutes is a stretch.

You are taking Pitou's comment about Gon being a threat to the king to literally. Pitou treats anyone of considerable strength to be a threat to the King. The same applied to Netero.

What's this idea about it being to convenient. The way it's been explained and with the nature of Nanika's existence, it makes perfect sense as to why she was locked away due to the risk of the backlash could kill of the family.

And Killua being immune to the wishes isn't that much of a problem because we know Killua's character enough that he wouldn't abuse Nanika's wishes, even if his life were in danger. Plus, the full scope of Nanika's nature and abilities are going to be explored this arc.

And that stuff about Gon doesn't make any sense. How does he lose his nen the next arc? You just didn't see him attempt to use his nen when he woke. It gets revealed later that "returning to normal" means he reverts back to how he was at the beginning of the story.
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best girl
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O MY RUBBER NEN
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>>157486040
I can't wait for Hisoka to kill all the others and Hisoka just says fuck my pride and asks Pika to help him off Chrollo.
Then Hisoka takes a mutilated Machi and proceeds to rape her on top Chrollo's lifeless body.
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>>157507345
>shorts under skirt
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>>157507458
Hisoka will just one shot Chrollo by ambushing him after all the other spiders are dead
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>>157503035
BAKA
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Is Hisoka objectively one of the biggest pushovers in the entirety of HxH? Let's see

>Kills a bunch of worthless trash during Hunter Exam
>Defeats an incompetent Nen user during Heavens Arena arc
>beats and/or scares the shit outta 2 kids and a loudmouthed teen
>plays a dodgeball game in Greed Island arc, then fucks off to chase Chrollo
>doesn't show up during Chimera Ants arc, which is quite odd given how the events of that arc offered numerous opportunities to fight extremely powerful enemies
>kills a shitty butler during Election arc
>chickens out when Illumi gets visibly angry at him
>makes convenient excuses not to fight the Zodiacs
>gets LITERALLY blown the fuck out by Chrollo in a deathmatch with no rules
>kills two physically weakest PT members when they didn't have access to their Hatsu because SALT


...wew
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>>157509019
I don't get why he only goes for people weaker than him
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>>157502848
>Pitou had the highest body count by far, she was the least redeemable.
So Killua should be dead by this point as well? Fuck off.
>>157507249
>You are taking Pitou's comment about Gon being a threat to the king to literally.
She literally said his strength was equal to the King's, pay attention for fuck's sake.
>The way it's been explained and with the nature of Nanika's existence, it makes perfect sense as to why she was locked away due to the risk of the backlash could kill of the family.
He IS the problem you dipshit, his powers are just so fucking stupid that it breaks the whole power system Togashi has been building this whole time. The main character had to beat the ridiculously strong villain and suffered the consequences for that, but since he's still the main character he has to come back at some point, that's totally fine, but how does he come back? "fuck it this one other faggot can grant wishes and shit he'll fix him, oh dun worry i'll put some dumb restrictions that of course one of the main characters can skip so it doesn't sound that powerful at first regardless of it breaking the whole fucking point behind nen"
>Plus, the full scope of Nanika's nature and abilities are going to be explored this arc.
Wanna bet?
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>>157509562
>She literally said his strength was equal to the King's, pay attention for fuck's sake.
But that's wrong you animeonlyfag. Damn you are stupid.
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>>157509562
>Wanna bet?
Nanika is confirmed to be an Ai.
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>>157509936
My proposal is stands.
>>157509653
Your argument being...?
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>>157509562
>She literally said his strength was equal to the King's, pay attention for fuck's sake
Are you stupid?
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>>157510340
She only says "his abilities (fangs) can now reach the king"
Which is nothing close to saying Gon's strength is equal to Meruem.
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>>157509190
I thought it was implied that he does this because he has a huge complex about "being the strongest"
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Why didn't they just nuke the palace from the start?
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>>157509562
>She literally said his strength was equal to the King's, pay attention for fuck's sake.
No, she didn't. She said he posed an actual threat to the King. In the same vein Netero could.

You didn't either didn't pay attention or took the fansubs to heart like an idiot and start thinking Gon on Meruem's exact level.

>He IS the problem you dipshit, his powers are just so fucking stupid that it breaks the whole power system Togashi has been building this whole time.
It's a fucking calamity you mouth breather.
Even when that wasn't revealed yet, it was made clear that the wishing system operates on a completely different scale that what nen users are capable of. It being a calamity only solidifies the reason why. You need to pay more attention.

Bet on what? That Nanika and her species are from the DC and that it and the rest of the calamities are going to be explored?
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O
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MY
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RUBBER
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ASSPULL
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Is Alluka the shittiest and most lazily written character in shonen history? Only a hack like Togashi could serve shit like this and have people gobble it up.
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>>157512231
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Killua is cute!
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When the FUCK is HXH returning.
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>>157484067
Killua x Alluka is the OTP of the series. Fight me faggot.
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>>157512792
5 min
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>>157507249
>Hisoka
I thought the time was mentioned in the manga, but if it is not, I believe 30 minutes is still a fairly reasonable guess, given that he was buried under a mountain of corpses that the paramedics would have also needed to inspect. Moreover, If the paramedics took 10 minutes just to arrive, we can assume they took at least that long in taking his corpse back to where they were, but we can assume they took longer given that they would have had no hurry with Hisoka dead.

>Gon-San
But even being able to wipe the floor with Pitou was too much. Gon-san should have been just about strong enough to beat her due to fear/surprise factor. Maybe even only beating her with Killua's help. The issue is that even with the sacrifice attached, having a power boost that takes him from below-Knuckle tier to Netero-tier is too much for the setting.

>Alluka
There are a dozens of other reasons that could explain why he was locked up (or killed, since before the arc we only had clues that Killua had another sibling, not what happened to him/her). And having any kind of wish-granting device that was never mentioned before at hand is too convenient for most stories. Having a wish-granting device at hand that can be used for free by a mc is too convenient for almost any story. No wonder Killua is getting separated from Gon and both are getting kicked out of the current arc.

Nanika's nature wasn't explained in the arc or even hinted before. He might have his nature explained in the next arc, but that doesn't stop making him a convenient plot device when he showed up.

It is absurd to think that Gon wouldn't have tried to use his Nen to climb the tree or talked with Ging about it to notice it was missing. It is like if Togashi had decided not to draw Gon's hand during that chapter, keeping it obscured by other stuff, and then some chapters later we learned Gon no longer had a hand. It is the kind of think we would have expected to be referenced somehow if it happened.
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>>157507345
the cutest
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Alluka is a metaphor for trangender issues, many from the family misgender the character and are ashamed of her existence except for Killua who truly understands her. They fear what they don't understand, Killua at one point tries to disregard the other side of her and Alluka is greatly upset at this because you have to love and respect every aspect about her. You can't just eliminate one half of who she truly is. Togashi is truly a genius.
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Is there a worse fanbase than HxH's?
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>>157512792
2 weeks, please understand :^)
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>>157516035
Fuck off tumblr
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>>157484067
Left isn't much of a issue. Right is a copout but it can't be helped. It will be a waste for gon to die for real. He still has a lot of development ahead of him.
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>>157515631
>Hisoka
That would imply the paramedics even discovered Hisoka's body. If they did and if they spent all that time to obtain his body then it would be in their hands not the Troupe's. To find his body out of hundreds of corpses either charred or blown to bits is almost impossible given the fact that there is a giant hole in the stage when plenty might have fallen in. The newscaster probably just surmised that he has surely died from that explosion.

>Gon-San
Not really. There's already a precedent for this when Kurapika was able to go up against a Master Enhancer like Uvogin. Gon's distraught emotional state and total abandon to what happens to him is what made his sacrifice so potent. And don't forget that Wing stated that he and Killua have the potential of 1 out of 10 million people. Their talent has been brought to notice by several characters. To sacrifice all that for what amounted to a 10 minute power up with a horrible backlash is very appropriate for the sort of story Togashi is telling.

>Alluka
It usually depends on how it's used.

It makes sense for Gon to be brought back by Nanika's power. What he did to his body was abnormal, so it stands to reason that he be "restored" by something abnormal as well.

But I can understand your feeling about Nanika showing up as he did.

And as for Gon not using his nen to climb the tree, keep in mind that he is capable of superhuman feats before Nen was even introduced. Like how he caught that several hundred pound fish in the first chapter. Nen merely augments his abilities.

His state of mind at the time having just comeback from near-death might have not led into thinking to use nen, especially since he willing gave it all up in the first place.
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>>157512325
Hey, at least she died. Nanika is still alive, the fun part is that if Togashi kills her HxH will become the worst shonen manga ever made, even worse than Fairy Tail, and if Togashi leaves her alive it will become a pretty mediocre shonen manga just like Bleach and Akame ga Kill. Tough choice.
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>>157507545
Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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>>157518464
Literally not seeing the rhyme or reason for either of these scenarios.
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>>157484067
>O my rubber nen was fine

KYS.
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>>157518688
Killing Nanika would literally be Naruto tier writing, even worse since at least Pain and the Rinnegan were brought up beforehand.
>hey I bring this character out of my ass to revive Gon cause my own rules don't allow me to >.<
>well Gon is revived now what do I do with this character?
>lol i'm a retard
>well let's just kill it, nobody will notice
And Nanika own existence already destabilizes and collapses the whole setting of the series, the only realistic way to go now is to pretend Killua and Gon never existed and just focus on Kurapika sailing adventures.
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>>157519042
Except Nanika's abilities are not that different from what's possible in Greed Island in the grand scheme of things. Plus there a whole hive of creature like Nanika in the DC so I don't see what killing Alluka would accomplish. It's merely a gateway to the world beyond, people should have already gotten a hint of that with the CA queen washing ashore.

>Nanika own existence already destabilizes and collapses the whole setting of the series
No, it doesn't. Some of you folks exaggerate shit to no end, you need to get a grip.
You can't just completely ignore that the world of HxH being filled with strange mystical creatures was established in the first arc.
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>>157519676
>it's magic ain't gotta explain shit
Way to prove my point.
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>>157518759
>KYS.
Kill yourself.
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>>157519914
What point was that exactly?

Teleportation, extreme healing and exorcism are all abilities established in the series by different characters.

Nanika being able capable of all this is tied to it being a calamity from the DC which this arc is meant to explore. Are you being dim on purpose?
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>>157519042
>And Nanika own existence already destabilizes and collapses the whole setting of the series
We just had an entire new continent that exists outside the scope of human society filled with things that seem to operate completely on their own rules. Unless you want to explain the Zombie Virus, Brion, and Ai entities with the only context being Nen?

It's clear that where we're going there are different rules that get adhered too and Alluka is undoubtably tied to them. It's also no surprise that after Zzycks Zoldyck traveled with Netero to the dark continent with Netero, somehow his family gave birth to a deviant like Alluka/Nanika
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>>157520498
>Teleportation, extreme healing and exorcism are all abilities established in the series by different characters.
What does nen have any to do with what I said? Are you being stupid on purpose or what?
Nanika existence is a contradiction of everything Togashi have build up to now, and your only counterargument was that "inexplicable magic exists in HxH so whatever". It doesn't matter if they find out 58793571 different kind of calamities, they make no sense in the scheme of nen that many of you claim as the best written thing ever made by humankind.
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I hate how everything just works out for gon, like he never learns his lesson about being stupid because something always saves him
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why didn't hisoka O MY RUBBER NEN a new arm during the kastro fight?
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>>157522869
For a second I thought that this time he would think about the consequences of his actions, but nope, nobody died and he just got a " B U T D O N T D O I T A G A I N teehee~" again.
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>>157522931
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>>157510392
Nice projection faggot
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>>157522314
>What does nen have any to do with what I said? Are you being stupid on purpose or what?
Gee, maybe it's because it remains to be the central power system in this series and I have no reason to believe that Nanika doesn't use nen without proper evidence, dipshit

>Nanika existence is a contradiction of everything Togashi have build up to now
Yet again, no it hasn't. I don't even think you know what the word contradiction means.

>inexplicable magic exists in HxH so whatever"
You mean Nen? God, you're dumb.

> It doesn't matter if they find out 58793571 different kind of calamities, they make no sense in the scheme of nen that many of you claim as the best written thing ever made by humankind.
What the hell are you talking about? How does a calamity not make sense "in the scheme of nen" or whatever the fuck this is supposed to mean? Please, save yourself the embarrassment and stop while you're still behind.
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>>157524521
>fan trans
>mangafox
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Chrollo cheated and has never won a fight fairly
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Do most hunters even recognize Cheadle as chairman? Netero himself had several opposing factions, I imagine after being absolutely humiliated by Pariston she'll have even more trouble.
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>>157524839
>I will just ignore everything said and start calling you names
Are you the same anon? Cause you seriously dropped the towel there.
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>>157525543
>fairness
>in a deathmatch
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Couldn't a strong hunter have a lot of kids and raise them all fucked up then give them the idea to do what Gon did and basically have a small arsenal of gonsan bombs he could used to kill anyone he wanted?
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>>157526897
Gon is suppose to be the grandson of Jesus Christ and Santa Claus. In HxH effort means shit, you have to be born special.
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>>157526897
Depends, if Gon acquired his talent during childhood, maybe. If he had it since birth as some theories say (as he "lost" it after asspull heal) then no.
You could perhaps raise them to have a powerful combination of abilities that are almost unbeatable together. It sounds like a pain though, you might get like 5 kids to the point where they can do the water test and turns out they're all enhancers.
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>>157498786
I re-watched the exam arc the other day and it's pretty funny how Netero supposedly doesn't know immediately that Gon is Ging's spawn nor recognise Killua as related to Zeno.
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>>157527333
He just doesn't give a shit
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>>157527333
well, it's netero, he probably couldn't care less
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>>157522931
A better question would be how Hisoka was able to get his rubber fingers despite literally saying he couldn't manipulate nen properly with his stumps anymore
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>tfw will never have Pitou as a housewife to raise hybrids with
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Gon-san is also fine.

Gon has incredible determination and willpower. He is also incredibly talented and has a lot of potential.

He was willing to sacrifice all of his aura just to kill one individual, it makes sense.

O my rubber makes some sense, but what's horseshit about it is that bungee gum is a very vague ability that can do anything Togashi wants it to do to take Hisoka out of any situation. That and the ability has no notable restriction.

I have yet to find a reason why Alluka's power is not incredibly lame.
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>>157527394
I meant when he was playing that ball game with Gon and Killua and analysing how quick they were and such but still supposedly wasn't able to put two and two together. Netero was pretending to be retarded.
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>>157526997
Isn't Netero supposed to be an example of effort pays off? He did decades worth of training years before he became a hunter. I always assumed his ability is the culmination of his pray/punch exercise. Sure he is probably very talented, but he couldn't have made an ability like that on talent only.
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>>157527545
>Mpreg
Kill yourself,Tumblr.
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Why don't we put this down to numbers and set it for once and for all?

Hisoka vs Chrollo
Location: Heaven's arena (chosen by Chrollo)
Result: indecisive
Participants:
Hisoka
vs
Chrollo, thousands of civilians, possibly Machi, Kortopi and Shalnark

Casualties and losses:
an arm, a leg and lacerations
vs
hundreds of civilians, Kortopi and Shalnark, dignity
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>>157500218
gon is insane
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>>157527780
I got it from pixiv
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>>157527787
Chrollo would have 100% succeeded in killing Hisoka permanently if, in his attempt to out style him, didn't blabbed about how Sun and Moon worked hinting at the whole "nen becoming strong after death" thing. If he didn't said that, there would have been no Hisoka, no "Oh rubber nen" last ditch gambit and no offpaneled Kortopi and Sharkboy.

Chrollo won the match but costed him severe consequences by being over confident. All that will transpire to the spiders is completely Chrollo's fault. Hell, he knew about the after death nen shit. He should have blown up Hisoka until he was nothing but red jelly, Even if he doesn't understand how that shit fully worked, he would have known not to take chances.
100% preparation indeed. What a fucking dumbass.
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I dunno why anyone would waste time on this generic shounen garbage, honestly
People jerk it off, but it's just another shounen title, the only difference is that it's not too popular and constantly on hiatus so faggots will actually talk about it on here
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>>157528219
>capable nen users can even turn their own corpses into zombies just to kill their opponent
>no one ever destroy the remains after winning
>hxh is "smart" shonen
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>>157516035
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what he was going for.
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>>157522869
I don't think you paid attention to his interactions after being healed at all
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>put nuke inside one of knovs room
>get invisible lizard to take knov to the king
>drop king into room
>trap him there
>detonate nuke

would've worked fine if not for O MY FEAR OF NEN..!!
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>>157528599
I hope Knov gets his shit together and joins the boat
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>>157528662
Morel and Knov are on the boat.
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wait i haven't been keeping up with /a/ related stuff for a good year and half, you're telling me hxh is still on hiatus?

togashi really went and became a family man huh
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>>157528662
His ability is by far my favorite. It would help a lot in DC as well, safe camp anywhere, anytime.
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>>157484067
He was thinking about how he could heal Gon (main character) in the fucked up state he was
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>>157528981
I think Alluka was more of a way to introduce another DC creature into the story.

It wasn't handled in the best way, though.
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What if Killua's wishes are just put on hold? Could it just be holding it back, and as soon as it doesn't like him anymore just release all that shit at once?
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>>157486040
shit I liked this guy. Who else did he kill?
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>>157529137
Kortopi
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>>157529215
Oh Nice. Its not a total loss then.
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>>157529137
How can you like that faggot?
Are you a girl?
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>>157529374
What's wrong with him?
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>>157529374
I like his ability more so then his actual character. In fact I remember almost nothing about how he acts mainly because I am anime only
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>>157484067
either Togashi realized that he still wanted to tell stories with Gon, or his editor made him bring Gon back because he's the MC.
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Can we all agree that despite all the flaws of the Chimera Ant arc, Gon's confrontation with Pitou made the poor pacing and slow start of the arc worth it.
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>>157529426
He's a bishi that's just there.
That's all he does
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>>157530726
You might have ADHD.
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>>157529521
not really, autistic Gon was corny

other series did the "angry murderous boy" scenario much better
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>>157529521
It was great.
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>>157530726
He's a pretty smart guy, he figured out Greed Island which lead to Quwrof getting his nen back.
Also he cares for his friends, which was how Hisocuck was able to kill him so easily in the first place. He's an alright character, there's nothing wrong in liking him.
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>>157529521
I hated the Chimera Ant Arc.
Angry Gon felt more embarrassing than anything. It was stupid, honestly.

HxH was at it's best when it was more light hearted with a darker theme in the background. Like when Gon and Killua traveled together trying to make money, or went through all that crazy shit during the Yorknew City crazy shit. When Killua is the edgy fucker and Gon is the more lighthearted one is when the series was top tier.
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>>157530872
>gon's fist separates pitou and komugi
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>>157484067
Well, Togashi wasn't finished ripping off Dragon Ball and giving it an edgy spin so he figured that creating an edgy human variant of the Dragon Balls would help to finish the job.
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>>157529521
the whole arc is great, there is a lull towards the middle after kites death but once the raid starts it turns it up to 11
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>>157530910
>When Killua is the edgy fucker and Gon is the more lighthearted one
idk why people hate Killua

the fact that he was an edgelord felt natural; he's a little kid raised in a edgy family. Also he knew when he was outmatched and never tried to intimidate dangerous folk like Nobunaga
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>>157530888
The only one who didn't really get much character was Kortopi
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>>157530989
Wait -- people hate him? I thought he was great. The way he hunted people who hurt Gon and their talks together was top tier. Their friendship was one of the best things about HxH imo.
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>>157484067
it really bothers me that people consider themselves fans of this series but missed ALL OF THE FORESHADOWING FOR GON'S POWER UP EVEN WHEN IT WAS SPOONFED

Alluka and o my rubber nen are a mess but whatever
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I'll be extremely disappointed if this isn't the soundtrack used when this scene is animated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHT-pnOmKc0
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>>157531100
You'll only be seeing that scene in Hunter X Hunter (2029)
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>>157531100
>animated
If HxH gets animated again it's going to be a remake by a new studio.
HxH was Maruyama's last production for Madhouse.
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>>157531002
and Bonolenov. Not to mention there are two new members in the PT. They might be new characters or old ones, we have no idea.
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>>157531318
Bonolenov got that cool backstory at least. We know he's circumcised.
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>>157531461
>ging has a 'complicated history' with pariston
>the S for greed island is still unknown
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>>157531100
Same but at this point I just hope that the remake in 5+ years will keep most of the VAs somehow.
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>>157530793
You might have retardation
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Interesting analysis of Alluka/Election arc: https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/99681-recommend-an-anime-manas-harem/page-444#entry2679122
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>>157531504
>Greed island also has a card that can gender swap people.
> Pariston is Gon's mom
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>>157511488
>>157511852
>>157511995
>>157512074
nice
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>>157526254
If you could provide an actual counter, that would be great
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>>157530812
And you failed to provide an example in this post because...

It's the usual "Hurr HxH ain't nuffin special, hurr"

Do you people get a prize from someone by doing this?
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>>157486211
>two traps, a homo, an autist and a fatass
Silva must feel disappointed about his sons
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>>157535970
>killua is probably the most stable of his siblings
a homo? Illumi doesn't seem as suspect as Hisoka.
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>>157536302
Killua is the homo
Illumi is the autist
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>>157536452
fuck
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>>157531590
I'd Fucking laugh if that was true Pariston doing his Keikaku the whole time "his" son was in the hospital.
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>>157536452
Killua wants to fuck his sister
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>>157535970
>>157536452
Illumi can also be a trap sometimes
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>>157486551
She's confirmed from the dark continent. Volume 33 side notes.
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>>157484100
>Now that we all know Hisoka is fodder garbage
You take that back.
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O MY RUBBER NEN is just a meme
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>>157536627
can you really blame him?
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>>157536627
>Killua
>having any sisters

kek
>>
I know most of you are only in high school or whatever, but I find myself constantly shocked at how much of the Chimera Ant Arc was lost on the HxH fanbase.

I admit, that when it was unfolding I was lost on some things and thought some of it was stupid, but that was strictly a first reaction to just not getting it in the first hours after reading it.

By now, it should be pretty clear what all went down and why it all made perfect sense both from a narrative and thematic standpoint. How can people still not be getting it?
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>>157542468
>How can people still not be getting it?
Either animeonly, speedreaders, or people who are memeing.

You see how many times it had to be pointed out itt that Nanika is an Ai from the DC this thread and posters still kept saying she breaks the rules?

That's the kind of retardation we are dealing with.
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>>157542468
I think people dont like it because its not good
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>>157542468
My problem is that it dragged on for too damn long, also it gave us best girl but then took her away with a brutal death she didn't deserve.
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>>157531504
What are the names for A, N, and D in Greed Island?
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>>157542468
I re-read the whole arc three times from start to finish because I wanted to see if I really enjoyed it or if I was following the trend..

There are so many things that you find that you wouldn't pick up on the first time reading it. The parallels between Gon and Meruem, the symbolism behind the Poor Man's Rose, the fact that the Ants, contrary to their nature, were less cohesive than the humans attacking them. I've only come to appreciate more and more the amount of time and thought Togashi put into this.

That won't stop all the idiots from braying on and on about asspulls and the like. Same goes for people like >>157543191 who had nearly everything about the arc fly over their little heads.

It's a sad day, gents.
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>>157543712
>My problem is that it dragged on for too damn long

That was because of the hiatuses, not so much because of the actual length of the arc.
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>>157543770
>There are so many things that you find that you wouldn't pick up on the first time reading it

Exactly. The ways in which Togashi was exploring the question of what it means to be human was pretty brilliant imo.
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>>157543712
Palm came back to life though
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>>157542468
>Nanika made perfect sense in a thematic standpoint

keep telling yourself that
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>>157543712
>also it gave us best girl but then took her away with a brutal death she didn't deserve.
Bee girl deserved a happy ending. That TPK left a bad taste in my mouth.
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>>157544218
>Nanika

What part of "Chimera Ant Arc" didn't you understand?
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>>157543770
I picked up the fact that it was mediocre
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>>157544261
>everybody agrees that Adult Gon was valid
>most of the convo is about Nanika
>bring up Chimera Ant arc
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>>157543964
True
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>>157544383
I'm sorry. What does that have to do with the fact that you clearly just didn't read the post you were replying to all that closely?
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>>157544337
Yeah, case and point kiddo
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>>157542468
>Kite comes back to life after a gigantic portion of the arc being about Gon dealing with his death

exquisite writing
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>>157544461
Wasn't she just turned into a human/ant hybrid? Where did it say that she was killed first?
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>>157544482
I thought he was placing the Chimera Ant arc and the Chairman Election arc all in one because one is just the aftermath of the other and most of this thread is centered around those 2 arcs
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>>157544590
you dont get the theme of the arc

Kite was revived like Meruem
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>>157544675
She killed herself, but Pitou got to her before it was too late and brought her back, then experimented on her.
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>>157544590
It's not so much that Kite comes back that doesn't make sense to me. That was just the nature of how the Chimera Ants worked with the whole absorbing the genetic abilities/memory of their prey.

What I didn't get was how Kite was reborn as an Ant if he wasn't fed to the queen. Didn't Pitou keep his body for training purposes or whatever?
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>>157544844
O MY CRAZY SLOTS

literally how he came back
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>>157544844
I guess his ability allowed his soul to be transferred to the fetus growing in the Queen's belly.

The red-haired girl Koala killed.
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>>157544880
>O MY CRAZY SLOTS
Fuck you this made me laugh.

I hope Kite is on the boat.
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>>157544590
The point of Gon's part of the arc was to see to what extremes he would go after seeing a dear friend die due to his actions.

If you remember Greed Island and how he sacrificed both his arms because his pride was slighted, something that he didn't need to do at all, it puts everything about Gon's mentality into perspective. The audience already knew and Pitou already made clear that Kite at that point wouldn't come back so what Gon did was, in all, completely meaningless. But he still went ahead and brutally murdered Pitou anyway as an outlet for all his malice towards her and himself for letting Kite get killed.

Kite coming back next arc doesn't really change anything.
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>>157544774
every doesn't have to be about parallels, parallels doesn't equal good writing and Meruem died in the end, with a pretty well written death btw, just like Kite's would've been if he hadn't been brought back to life

and btw wouldn't that parallelism have made more sense if it was between Meruem and Gon since they both got heavily injured, managed to survive but still paid the consequences? (Gon lost his nen and Meruem died because of the poison)
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>>157545152
*every thing
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>>157545091
I think his point was that it while, yes, kite's death was ultimately more of a plot device to illustrate a point about Gon and about the capabilities of nen, it still somewhat diminishes the narrative impact of Kite's death as a beloved character and somewhat undermines the growth Gon underwent experiencing that loss and having to concede that he overreacted to it by bringing him back to life.
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>>157498786
Hisoka throwing playing cards so hard they pierce peoples skin?
Killua's shadow step?
Gon erasing his presence to track Hisoka?

Come on anon.
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Daily reminder that according to the official power level chart, Hisoka has a 5 in talent (the most important stat) and Chrollo only has a 4. Hisoka will eventually kill Chrollo.
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>>157545256
I don't feel that it undermined what Gon went through. Even after learning that Kite came back, he still felt the need to apologize to him. The guilt he felt for leaving Kite to die still weighed on his mind after all that's happened and he showed acknowledgement of the sort of extreme he committed to.

And now after reaching his goal and losing his nen, I feel that this is a chance to develop Gon even more.
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>>157545917
The little faggot didn't even lose his nen, he has been fully recovered and hasn't learned anything and will still keep doing stupid shit that puts his life needlessly in danger.
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>>157546162
Cool headcanon, I guess.
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>>157545516
generic abilities in any story featuring "aura"

I think that person is getting at the fact that we didnt see any real superpowers
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>>157546262
>headcanon
>when Ging himself said Gon can still use nen
>>
O
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>>157546322
>this again
he didn't say Gon could still use nen only that his aura wasn't gone he just can't see it.
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>>157546322
No, he still has an aura. Everyone does, it's your life energy. Gon thought it disappeared, but he just can't see it anymore, which would make it very difficult to use it.
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>>157546322
Yeah, cool headcanon
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>>157546366
MY
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>>157546484
>thinking Togashi wont give him back his powers later on
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>>157546552
>moving goalposts
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>>157546484
God I cannot wait for the series to come back.

The boat and the Dark Continent are about to be the clusterfucks of all time.
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>>157546552
Pure conjecture.

You can stop anytime
>>
Leoreo deserves to be the MC now, screw the rest.
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>>157546727
>seriously thinking the main character will go powerless for the rest of the series (if it ever gets off hiatus)
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>>157546502
RUBBER
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>>157546916
That's your speculation.
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>>157546916
That's still relying on conjecture rather than concrete evidence.

And at the moment, the main character is either Kurapika or Ging. The story doesn't revolve around Gon.
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>>157546916
Ging is the main character now.

>>157531590
Gon is a nen baby.
>Togashi created Gon, technically, gave birth to him
>the one responsible for cards in GI is Dwun
>Dwun is Togashi's self insert
>Dwun created the pregnancy card that gave birth to Gon
>Dwun (Togashi) is technically Gon's mom
It all fits.
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>>157546854
Leorio is the second most boring character
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>>157547354
Who is the first?
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>>157542468
I think you missed the point. That's the problem with the Chimera ant arc, it's so in your face and treated with such gravitas that A it forgets it's a manga for 12-year-old boys and B gets on some overdrawn soap box speech about the nature of humanity. Subjectively speaking, I hate most of the designs and character arcs for the ants Meureum and Komugi included. I found them to be really prosaic, and honestly, it gave me diabetes. Also, I know a lot of people will disagree about this, but I think the rapid shift in levels of power was a cheap trick to make an otherwise boring arc engaging at the cost of cheapening the intrigue behind a lot of characters. After all, most of the characters in H X H are only interesting because of how strong we think they are
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>>157547557
Gon
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>>157547557
Killua.

For most of the story he's a satellite to Gon or falling back on family melodrama. And his relationship with Alluka was shoehorned and killed consistency.
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>>157547682
>Meureum
people unironically like diet-Cell
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>>157547180
naw I still like it being pariston but either could work
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>>157547801
Yeah, I'm not one of them. I much prefered the phantom Troupe as the main bad guys, because they didn't rely on exposition backstory dumps and overwhelming power to seem cool. Instead, the Phantom Troupe features unique abilities and a legitimate aura of mystery about their purpose and origin while still being legitimate threats which I feel is much more in the spirit of the series. The only Ants that remotely interested me were Pouf and Youpi.
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>>157548043
>expository backstory dumps
You literally follow Meruem from birth, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>157548161
I meant the fodder ants. My problem with Meureum has to do with his character arc and Komugi who is a the most 1 dimensional angel character I've ever seen
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>>157546854
>He will never get the development he needs cause hiatus
>He will never have any notable physical conflict other than punching ging
>Ging will never train Leorio
>We probably wont see much more of him and Cheadle on the boat
I'm not saying he should be the MC but his lack of screen time is criminal.
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>>157547801
I thought I was the only one that thought he was a Chinese bootleg version of Cell.
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>>157524521
>mangafox
go back
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>>157547801
>>157548499
Same here. How come no one notices he's just like Cell? A complete rip-off.
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>>157484067
O My Rubber Nen was less bullshit than Gon-san. Gon-san was less bullshit than Hisoka's hand exploding. His hand exploding was less bullshit than Alluka. Alluka was less bullshit than Nanika allowing Killua to break the rules. That's less bullshit than the Dark Continent actually existing.

Where you draw the line is up to you, but I personally draw it between Alluka and Nanika.
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>>157548618
>bullshit than Hisoka's hand exploding
what's wrong with it
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>>157547557
Kurapika. Other than his androgyny he's too boring a character for HxH
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>>157548563
I'd bring up that his design choice is entirely intentional but what good would that do.

Some people refuse to pay any attention
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>>157548745
christ stop getting so butthurt

its understood that DB is an influence for many
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>>157548745
So? It's still a lazy copy.
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the entire concept of nen is bullshit

togashi wanted to write a power like nen because it's an ability that can literally do anything depending on the user and how it's used. nen makes togashi's life easier because then he can write anything and explain it away with nen.

It's a lazy, bullshit skill system.
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>>157548834
Duh
>>157548862
So no argument
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>>157548886
Please write me a nen ability that makes the user completely immortal and immune to any sort of damage whatsoever, with valid conditions and drawbacks.
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>>157548681
Nothing. The character himself explains what happened. What kills me about that fight is that Hisoka >>157548696
Owas basically giving his own running commentary of every move. There should be nothing that confuses anybody in that fight by the end of it.
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>>157547682
I could not disagree more. I mean, say what you will about it being too heavy for it's target demographic, but that doesn't mean it fails to execute at what it set out to do.

I think it did a fantastic job examining the human condition, the strengths & weaknesses of a man, the successes and failures of humanity, etc. And the power levels really don't shift all that heavily so much as expose us to the lower levels of the HxH upper tier (the current arc is the mid/upper levels of the upper tier).

It doesn't sound like you misunderstood the arc by any means, but it definitely sounds like you're judging it based on criteria you've imposed upon standards that it never claimed to abide by. I think you need to take it for what it is because Togashi was, in fact, being quite ambitious in the themes he was exploring and really stepping beyond the realm of a typical shonen. I don't think you can judge it as a shonen.
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>>157549017
>the user just has really, really, REALLY good focus and will!

see?

kill yourself.
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>>157548994
>So no argument
I should be the one saying so. I could copy every naruto design to a western and call it a "reference", it's still lazy.
It would be fine if they were actually close in personality or there was a valid reason to completely copy Cell, but that's not the case.
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>>157549104
Is this what you call bait over there at /v/? Fuck off.
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>>157484376
>>157484518
>>157484307
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>>157549165
what i just described is literally both the rubber nen and gon-san asspull
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>>157549188
>if you have deep and strong feelings nen can remain after that

hisoka is such an emotional character after all
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>>157548886
I wouldnt say its "bullshit" (well, besides edgy nonsense like Kurapika's Hot Topic chains) but its pretty much just YYH's spirit energy w/ restrictions
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>>157549119
Meruem is literally nothing like Cell aside from similar design and abilities. He's meant represent the pinnacle of evolution by being a as close to a perfect being as possible. People are meant to think of Cell and his motif.

Again, his design choice is intentional.
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>>157549428
>literally nothing like Cell
>except for his looks, powers, and theme
hence, Chinese Cell
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>>157549315
This is my contention for the rubber nen ressurection. He basically tries something out last minute and his character is too carefree and whimsical to be believable. Someone made a good argument that he could do it because he's determined to get Chrollo, and the entire arc he spent orchestrating his "fight" in York Shin is proof, but that remaims to be seen.

>>157549104
So you have no argument?
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>>157548563
Even the part where Cell nearly dies from an explosion and becomes even stronger after healing was ripped off as well
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>>157549428
I said half of that and the rest wasn't even part o the discussion. Did you lose your fidget spinner?
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>>157549491
Making a reference is somehow immediately a "rip-off". They are completely different characters.

Jesus
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>>157549573
Basically
>Meruem nuttin more den a rip-off cuz I said so!

Right
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>>157549775
Not at all. My arguments are about the same as yours, but you're projecting so hard you fail to notice even that.
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>>157549868
That's what makes /a/ so fun
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Jesus. I hate the 2011 anime. Not because it's bad (it's way better than 99) but just because it brought a bunch of /v/ and reddit tards to the fandom. If you think any of the following

>kurapika, alluka, o my rubber nen, nen itself are asspulls
>there's no way chrollo cheated
>meruem is basically cell
>yorkshin (or any other arc) > CA
>pitou is a girl

Feel free to go back to wherever you came from.
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>>157549642
you can reference something and lift a character wholesale at the same time

no one is saying he wasnt influenced by DBZ and wanted to use that character in a different scenario; lots of authors do this. Its that the character is so similar, and yet not as impactfyl, that it comes across as a bootleg version you'd see sold at the toy section in a flea market
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>>157550019
Nice, subtle bait.
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>>157548886
>it's an ability that can literally do anything depending on the user and how it's used

It can't though. That is one of the big points of the Chimera Ant Arc; to start outlining the upper limits of Nen.

What Gon did in turning into Gon-san was EXTREMELY rare and basically inimitable. Remember, nen is a manifestation of will. It's affected by emotional state, training, and willpower. The more powerful the ability, the more of those three you'll need. The nen contract Gon sealed was made possible by an emotional state that was, frankly, only possible by losing his mind. To have the kind of resolve to say "I would give anything and everything to have the power to beat this one person" and TRULY mean it to your very core is not something you can do flippantly.

I'll give you an example. I have two daughters, 5 and 2. And I can say right now with absolute certainty that I'd kill someone that hurt them. But the way I feel when I say that now sitting casually at my computer absolutely pales in comparison to the intensity with which I felt it when I saw a stranger scream in my oldest's face. I felt rage. Pure rage. I saw red. I wanted to kill him on the spot. Just for yelling in my daughter's face and scaring her like that. It was shocking to me because I'd never been that angry in my life.

You can't get into those kind of mental states lightly. It takes something extreme that you can't force. And here's the REAL kicker. Gon, by his nature, feels those kind of extreme ends of the emotional spectrum with an intensity that dwarfs normal, rational people. He's special. He is steadfast in his beliefs and his feelings to a degree that is a powerful asset, but potentially extremely dangerous if you cross him. Kite's death hit all the right buttons to send someone like that truly off the deep end. That's the only reason it was possible. And even then, he hadn't obtained omnipotent power or anything.

Nen absolutely has limits. You just don't get it.
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O
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>>157550318
MY
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>>157550020
On the surface level, maybe.

But I can make the distinction because Cell himself is nothing special. His personality is the stock cocky "I'm better you" type of villian. Literally no staying power whatsoever aside from giving us SSJ2 Gohan.
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>>157484518
>Yeah, the entire arc is a mess
I disagree. Everything match perfectly because the rules of Alluka's power are based on the ancestral theme of "be careful with what you wish".
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>>157502809
Nen is one of the best things of HxH, though.
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>>157550345
RUBBER
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>>157505936
Alluka is one of the best things of HxH because it explains how love works and why Killua left his family in the first arc. Killua was in love with Alluka, and when his family locked Alluka in the basement, Killlua scaped and found Gon, that's to say, a person very similar to Alluka.

Now, about Killua not paying for the wishes because Alluka loves him... it's not bullshit! That's how works in real life. Everyone ask for a retribution when you do something that implies time and work... except for people you love.

And Gon didn't lose his Nen because of Alluka, he lose his Nen because he lose the fire of his will, that's to say, find Ging. He needs a new objective to activate his Nen again.
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>>157516035
I love Alluka, but I don't think is a metaphor of that exactly. That thing of eliminate one half of who we truly are applies to everyone, not just transgenders. That's how love works.
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>>157551672
Are you sure? Alluka is canonically male but uses 'atashi' to refer to herself.
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>>157550098
Best post in this thread.
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>>157516035
I think Nanika is a great character as well. Now that it's confirmed that it's an Ai, desire of co-dependence, it's beautiful to see that it finally found a host who accepts it: while humans think of calamities as bringers of despair that everyone must avoid at all cost, you have one child, symbol of purity accepting it. I'm pretty sure it must be the first time that an Ai has had a passive host, and I feel like it was a good idea as a continuity of the CA arc where we've had the connexion of two different species as well (Meruem and Komugi). It's an attempt at saying that some calamities may be sentient and they don't have to fight'em.
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hisoka probably emptied his bowels when he died
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>>157550098
well said
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>>157544590
Kite, like Gyro, didn't die because he still wanted to live.
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>>157550098
>Gon, by his nature, feels those kind of extreme ends of the emotional spectrum with an intensity that dwarfs normal, rational people
And the kicker is that this has been a thing since the hunter's exam. Remember when Hanzo broke his arm and Gon just didn't care because he'd already moved on, and later broke Illumi's arm just because Killua had been emotionally hurt? He's always had a warped sense of morality.

Gon has always been the logical outcome of the mindset that most shounen protagonists showcase. Except without the whimsy or justifications given to him.
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>>157552225
That's a good point. He had literal shit in his pants while flirting with machi and killing shalnark and kortopi.
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>Hisoka dies
>comes back stronger because he had a big boner when he was about to die
Why doesn't he just keep doing it exponentially?
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out of curiosity does any body even play this shit anymore I was thinking about and totally forgot how to play.
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>>157553256
His nen was only stronger when it was reviving him, its back to normal now.
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>>157484724
>>157488557
Pulling worse shit doesn't excuse it.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>157554234
Plotting
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>>157554234
Best boys.
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HxH will never come back guys.

Just accept it.
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>>157550098
>(You)
Anon-kun is best dad
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>>157555214
Best girl is dead so who cares

At least Berserk got off the boat
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