JoJo Thread

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>>157475744
Probably some shit like "David is good"

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>>157475744

>What are the stupidest things people said/wrote about Jojo?

Joseph is my favorite jojo.

Why was the last thread so hostile?

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>>157475928
I had to put some low-test secondaries in their place. Hopefully they won't come to this thread

>>157475744
That Kira was evil.

He literally did nothing wrong.

>>157475928
Nevermind, this one is still pretty hostile.

>>157475744
Jojo isn't a gay anime

>>157475744
That you're a secondary if you got into JoJo when the anime was out.

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>>157476010
That's the truth, though. The anime is dogshit and if you got into JoJo through it then you're part of the people who have smeared the reputation of this fanbase

>>157476058
I like Kira's face in the anime shot. Looks pretty QUALITY

Part 5 is the best part. I mean I can see why people like part 5 but the best?

>>157475961
>>157476058
God damn, Araki's art is impeccable.

>>157469056
Yasuho's nice but she can't stand alone at all. Her character is explicitly defined by her defining herself with other people and how she can support them.

Presumably if she survives the end of JoJolion will show her having surpassed that, but for the majority of the story she has been and presumably will be Here To Help above all.

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>>157475744
remember when star platinum wore pants?

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>>157476542
Or when it had Jotaro's face?

Everyone who posted in this video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sW6X_Ke_N3M

>>157475744
Stands are Pokemons. Araki stole ideas from Shaman King

>>157476811
You mean Dio´s

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How would he fare at the end of part 3?

>>157477051
Would Dio share that cake with me?

that part 4 is good

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>>157477025
It makes you think honestly

King Crimson's power is too complicated

>>157477051
Stop posting this ugly bullshit

>>157477204
Dio was Star Platinum all along.

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>>157477152
THIS. Part 4 is moeshit. Part 1-3 were manime while 4 is just filler moeshit, no different from trash like Lucky Star

>>157477275
It introduced my husbando, so its all buono.

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>>157477236
no

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>>157477258
And Kakyoin was Dio all along

>>157477483
Same face syndrome.

>>157477788
Even the anime has it

>>157476058
Jesus.

>Manga has a cool, confident, and dismissive Kira looking down on a Jotaro spurting blood and shaking in a struggle to stay upright
>Anime has a dollar store David Bowie doll maniacally smiling and staring at a bloodied Jotaro taking a momentary breather

The really static and unexpressive poses help too.

>>157475808
>>157475961
>>157476058
>Using the TV versions
>Implying that JoJo was the only anime ever to have rushed art

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>>157477788

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>>157477371
>mfw there was more fat-art of your husbando than there was porn.

I'm glad deviantart has never stopped being a bastion of quality content.

>>157477881
>dollar store David Bowie doll maniacally smiling
If that was actual merch, I would buy it. No joke.

>>157477371
Always post fat Dio

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>>157476542
>>157476811
Remember when it had a David Productions face?

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>JoJo Anime season 1 had animation problems because it didn't have a big enough budget
>JoJo Anime season 2 had animation problems because it had too many episodes
>JoJo Anime season 3 had animation problems because there wasn't a break in airing
I hope they try to avoid animation problems in season 4.

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>>157478204
it also had bad character designs that didn't look like the manga. Bottom pic is what part 4 should've looked like

>>157478304
>those succulent lips

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>>157478347
I want Josuke to love me.

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Remember April 18th?

>>157478879
I remember April 8th before the date was pushed back.

>>157478347
GODTHESEFUCKINGLIPS

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>>157478961
Did you watch the live footage of Narancia and I destroying the Davidfags? I gave him a rimjob afterward

>>157479070
Oh you mean video everyone made fun of because it looked like it was made by a retarded 8 year old kid? Yeah I watched it.

>>157479070
>destroying the Davidfags
Theres only one Daivdfag!
You are not the real Naranciafag!

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>>157479135
This.
He even pushed it back multiple times up to the 18th for when the JJL chapter comes out so everyone would see it.

>>157479309
And fuck I just finished fapping

>>157475744
Fag manga for faggots in denial.

>>157479581
Yeah it's dogshit. JoJofags should be banned from /a/

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>>157477925
>implying the BD fixed the Deadly Queen scene

>>157475893
Stopped reading at
>Battle Tendency is the dogma
God damn I hate this fanbase.

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>>157475744

>>157480057
Who

>>157480267
Geektyrant

>>157480267
It says right underneath the quote

>>157475744
New fag here
just start jojo, should I continue with the anime or drop it and read the manga?

>>157477011
>Pokemons

>>157480799
>>157481257
Who are they

>>157477966
I'm so sorry for what Tumblr has done to your husbando.

>>157477275
I gotta say, I liked 3 better than 4. not sure why it gets so much hate.

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>>157481627
>tumblr
Actually tumblr and the small circle of twitter nips are the only place for content. I suppose it's the benefit of hoarding a vague edgy shithead.

Deviantart is where the weird garbage shit is for him.

>>157479723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPj_1w09hk
They fixed it a bit (especially on the badges), but Kira still looks a bit weird.
>Deadly Queen

>>157475744
>Dio is not a flaming faggot for Jonathan

>>157481629
>not sure why it gets so much hate
Part 4?
Pretty sure it's because it's Araki's favourite part, so it usually gets the most merchendise and promotion.

>>157481710
You don't go to Pixiv? I've found a couple of pics of him while downloading logs of Terence fanart but you probably already have all Pixiv fanart of your husbando

>>157481765
Funny, the most marketed part used to be Part 3 and I hated it for it.

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>>157481785
Of course I do, Terence. The pixiv downloader addon is a blessing.
It's just the nip twitter circle updates at least daily because they are always drawing each other gifts and such.
Pixiv rarely updates now, I don't even check Jobin's tag anymore because it's easier to search on twitter.

>>157481809
Part 3 is the one that most people in the west know about (thanks to the Arcade game and OVA)

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>>157481732
They both still look like shit.

And Kira spends the entire series looking off-model. The previous parts didn't fuck up nearly as bad with their characters.

There are people reading this reply RIGHT NOW who have not read the manga, regardless of whether or not they watched the anime

>>157481908
The problem is that there was no break in the airing. Although if that were true then the Blu-Ray versions would look better then they do.

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>David didn't animate this scene

Defend this Davidfags.

>>157481934
There are people reading this reply RIGHT NOW who have not watched the Phantom Blood movie, regardless of whether or not they read the manga or watched the anime.

>>157481765
That's still part 3 by far. Part 4 just recently got a bit of a boost from being the latest to get animated.

>>157481954
They did. It was at a boring regular angle though.

>>157481934
>people who have not read the manga
>whether or not they watched the anime
You mean there could be people in this thread RIGHT NOW who are just into JoJo for the memes and just know everything from the wiki?

>>157481954
>implying you wouldn't get mad at them for fucking it up
It was for the best.

>>157481994
I've only played the 3 fighting games and watched Season 1 of the Anime. Dubbed. I'm currently waiting for the Season 2 Dub.

>>157481847
see
>>157481969
It got two games and an OVA when parts 1, 2 and 4 existed

>>157482015
Don't worry dude, I wasn't referring to people like you

>>157481993
You mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s58x4dEA_uA

>>157482104
No, that's a separate scene.

>>157481844
Eh, I prefer Pixiv. Twitter is too "dynamic" for me.
I asked you a few days ago, what kind of Cioccolata porn you would like to see but I didn't get an answer.

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Can we agree that the Stardust Crusaders Anime was at least better than the 2000s OVA?

>>157482174
Go away, 'literally satan'.

>>157482132
Twitter is a real pain if you don't know artists/have a list. But when you have to same 4-5 people who always retweet each other, you don't miss a thing. I wish a couple of them would do what Cho does and just bulk upload
I did see! I fell asleep and the thread archived. And I'd just want more solo stuff.
I'm the only one who seems draw solo and slightly more guro stuff other than the nice /y/ anon. I see so much god damn shota secco.

One of my Cio-liking friends is also a pateron of Gariks. He only has 2 more asks go through so hopefully we'll get a non-ugly ass piece from him.

>>157482174
In terms of character design, sound and faithfulness to the manga. Yes.

In terms of animation quality. No.

Does anyone unironically like Giorno?

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>>157482255
>In terms of animation quality. No.
Well, obviously not.
It's unfair to compare the animation quality of the OVA (which has only 7 episodes to spread its budget across) to the anime (which has 48 episodes to spread its budget across).

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>Busy restoring a lost Gappy doodle because there were barely any photos online
Perhaps I didn't search hard enough.

"Araki isn't Japanese Liefeld"

>>157482254
Hmm, I'll see if I can get into drawing porn again soon. Just for you, friend.

>>157482290
Yes, but it feels really bad

>>157482728
Thank you Terence.

If I could, I'd hold hands with you.

>>157483191
That's a cute bird, does he bite?

>>157482768
And if I could, I'd shake hands with you.

>>157483191
He's cute. I'd fuck him.

>>157476313
That's what girls should do

>>157483513
Men should be out fucking hot bitches and getting money but I don't see you doing that

>>157482290
I tried really hard to like Giorno, but I just can't.

why is there a sudden rise in anti-Davidfags? Is it the same three people or have these threads gone contrarian again by cherrypicking QUALITY scenes and claiming the entire anime's bad?

>>157483513
Of course. That's why your mom helped me with my erection last night.

>>157476313
I don't see how that's a flaw of the character in any way.

Can Araki draw Gappy or any character from Jojolion in style of 5-6 parts?

>>157483738
Probably not anymore.

>>157475744
I see action figures around from this show, looks p cool. convince me to watch it /a/

>>157483776
It's sad.

>>157483804
What about you get off your lazy ass and see it for yourself?

>>157483738
Fans create reasonable facsimiles of his styles all the time so there's no reason to think he couldn't if he really wanted to. He's never been the kind of artist to care about going back like that though.

>>157483688
Because it's really all she has, and makes her a completely passive, inactive character on her own. Her main role is propping other characters up.

Characters like Jolyne or Gyro or Mista or whatever aren't just defined by their relationships with others. They all have their own goals and ambitions, and those are all clear to see. If you take away the relationships Jolyne has with her friends and father she's still a strong-willed and determined girl who's generally reasonable but is extremely brutal and merciless when messed with. If you take away Gyro's relationship with Johnny then he's still a scary and efficient guy who proves himself to be a more lighthearted dork underneath it, but is still a noble and determined guy underneath that. If you take away Mista's relationships with the VA crew he's still a friendly and somewhat lazy Italian youth who can be alarmingly serious and determined when he has to be. The relationships these characters have with others are important and add a lot to them, but it isn't all they have.

Yasuho's relationship with Gappy is all she has. Without her wanting to help the boy she met who came out of the ground like two weeks ago, she has no reason to do anything and doesn't, and her personality isn't shown to be much more than 'nice teenage girl'.

>>157483831
Araki can't draw two faces, let alone styles

>>157483960
You forgot to turn off your trip.

>>157475893
The anime was a mistake

>>157484011
So were you but at least I don't talk about it all the time

>>157484123
>>157483643
Calm down, anon, it's too early to be lethal.

>>157483888
That's not right. Yasuho too is determined, reliable, a little awkward, and kind of a dork in general. The reason she's even so drawn to Josuke is because he reminds her of herself and how she feels like she doesn't belong anywhere due to her home environment and her relationship with her mother. There are times we see her on her own and she's messing around, clearly trying to stave off ennui, and in one case she's daydreaming of getting out and seeing the world instead. Tsurugi even says outright that she's projecting her own issues onto him.

>>157484161
She has a few traits of her own like you mentioned, but overwhelmingly she's defined by her want to help him.

You said it yourself there - Even Tsurugi brings it up. She's defining herself with another person, and while it's a character-point which could be used well, for the moment she's really just there to assist others, and without them she doesn't really have a point or motive.

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>>157484342
I could keep listing those traits if you wanted to, like her motherly instincts and whatnot. Saying there's nothing else than her relationship with Josuke is just wrong.

>and without them she doesn't really have a point or motive.
Well, that's like how Jotaro was there to help Holly or Mista was there to help Buccellati. Again, how is it a flaw of the character? She's getting involved in dangerous situations despite not having to and she could get out of it and live her own life if she wanted to, but she doesn't because that's the kind of person she is.

>>157484594
Virtually all of that falls under the 'nice teenage girl' umbrella.

And I don't think you get it. There's a motive and then there's the core of a character. Without Holly, Jotaro doesn't go to Egypt, but there's still plenty that's obvious to be seen about him - his simple stance on good and evil, his aggression-issues that mellow out over time, him showing mercy to Kakyoin, being a mentor to the Morioh kids, etc etc. Jotaro's relationship with Holly is part of him, but it's an excuse for him to go on an adventure, it's not the core part of his character. The same with Mista and Buccellati, and the latter isn't even really true - Mista's first action was shooting three men who were assaulting a woman, and the given reason he had for accompanying Buccellati when he defected was money. Neither of these characters were defined by Holly or by Buccellati - they were aspects, but they aren't all they have.

>Debating the depth of waifus
We truly have fallen

>>157484761
>Virtually all of that falls under the 'nice teenage girl' umbrella.
No, you're being reductive for no reason. Those are legitimate character traits.

The 'core of the character' is exactly what all these traits I've been mentioning are.

Is Naranciafag still crying about the anime?

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Say something nice about the Boss!

>>157484966
So she's sweet, reliable, motherly, is quirkily cute at times and really loves to help people. I'm really not hearing anything groundbreaking here.

It might be 'legitimate' but all she really has is helping Gappy and giving him something to care about. Once again, she cannot stand on her own and it isn't fair to compare her to characters who can.

>>157478204
Did Part 1/2 have animation problems? I never noticed, I always thought it was the better directed and animated of the bunch

>>157485172
He manages to be intimidating as fuck yet top tier bully material at the same time.

>>157485183
Didn't I also mention her clearly being very unhappy with her life and the ways in which it shows?

Again, in what sense is it a flaw of the character that her motive is to help out? Her being motivated by that is directly caused by her own personal life. She absolutely is a person even outside of her relationship with Josuke, and the only reason you're saying she can't stand on her own is because she's intentionally involving herself in something that doesn't need to be her business.

>>157485286
The first season had very little animation, with only the Caesar death episode being a highlight. They did a fairly good job of masking it though.

>>157485172
Good fashion sense. And very pretty eyes. But he should work with teams of 5 instead of only sending 2 users max.

>>157485339
You're seeing far more depth than is actually there. She's got some mommy-issues which are mentioned a couple of times, doesn't make her a fantastic and fleshed-out character. And 'Here To Help' can be good sometimes even if it's usually fairly weak, but when the character in question is overwhelmingly just a sweet, encouraging side-character it really isn't.

>>157485472
>You're seeing far more depth than is actually there.
Nope, it's right there in the manga. She has mentioned it outright several times, as did Tsurugi once.

>>157485519
>She's got some mommy-issues which are mentioned a couple of times
>doesn't make her a fantastic and fleshed-out character

>>157485472
>bashing a cripple
>sweet

>>157485559
The mommy issues are a part of it, yeah. What does that have to do with my post though? She has indeed mentioned it.

>>157485569
>Implying rock fuckers are people

>>157485592
Like I said, it's been mentioned once or twice as part of the Freudian reason for her being a dedicated supporting-character. It doesn't make her some amazing, groundbreaking 'absolutely a person' type of character, nor could she stand alone on her own merits as the vast majority of other major characters could.

>>157485651
Oh, I don't care if you think she's a fantastic character or anything, but it does seem to me like you're not paying much attention to what the essence of the character really is.

How am I seeing more depth than there is when it's all right there in the manga? She even says something like, "I too don't know who I am" and when she's on her own she's often doing things like licking her elbow or folding paperclips out of boredom, or wistfully daydreaming about seeing Amalfi coast.

>>157485651
How racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECZb2pUzHb4

>>157485829
>7 minutes
Give me the cliffsnotes.

>>157485764
Because you're seeing a teaspoon and convincing yourself it's the ocean. Yasuho has her quirks and interests like literally any other character, but her role and personality are far more dependent on the MC than any major supporting-character before or since.

Yasuho COULD be a lot better than she is, but at the moment she's not.

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just how popular is jojo in glorious nihhon?
wan pissu and evangelion are huge in japan, but other series sometimes find their footing in western fanbases, like naruto or sword art online, for example. every time the series has some milestone or event or whatever where a bunch of the other mangakas are obliged to draw a doodle to honor it, it's always part 3 jotaro, who has probably the most iconic character design in the series, which to me makes it seem like they aren't really fans of araki's work and just drew him because they knew the design. seems to me like it's one of those "famous for being around for so long" kinda cultural icons rather than being famous for the content within the work, like kochikame or the simpsons or something.

>>157478304
Why the fuck did DP think fucking with Araki's art style was a good idea? It's not like they're incapable since Part 3 looked really close to how the manga did. They better not pull the same shit with part 5.

>>157485847
Sure:
>This video is speculation
>Discussing on how JoJolion has 65 chapters while SBR ended at 95 so hypothetically if JoJolion would last as long as SBR it woluld at least be 30 more chapters and 2.5 years
>Based on this RPG M Speculates JoJolion will end in 2019
>Discussion about the Villians. Talking about how Dio and Diavolo were mainly involved in the climax and that we haven't got an confirmation of the main villain. Talking about how charcters end up as side villains instead of main villains (like Akira)
>RPG Monger believes Jobin is the Main Villain
>There are plenty of stuff left that Araki still has to explain including the bite marks
>Not many major backstories have yet been explained
>RPG thinks that the part will be nearing its end when the Bite Marks get explained
> Discussion about Part 9 - How Araki may make a Part 9 to wrap off the trilogy though there are some flaws in that logic that he discusses.
> Conclusion - Part 8 will end around 2019/2020 and that there should at least be 20-30 chapters left

Kill all rock-humans

>>157485849
>Yasuho has her quirks and interests
Well, just a moment ago you were disagreeing.

>her role and personality are far more dependent on the MC than any major supporting-character before or since
Anasui. Her personality isn't even dependent on Josuke.

Guess we're down to little more than opinions now though and that can't really be argued about.

>>157485172
Diavolo has really cool hair.

>>157485982
Not all that bad, but the length of a part should probably be counted in volumes instead.

>>157486065
genocide is bad

I definitely think JoJolion will end in 2019/2020

>>157486098
Nope. Scroll up. I never said that she had no personality, I said that her personality isn't shown to be much beyond 'nice teenage girl', and that her motivation and role in the story (I'm Here To Help) are weak, which I stand by.

I'll give you Anasui, he's a similar sort of character in that he has virtually nothing outside of Jolyne.

>>157486168
What the fuck is this SJW shit

>>157486213
Not all rock people

>>157475744
why is everyone always on takashi takeuchi's ass about sameface when araki is SO much worse about it?

Do you guys think that Jobin is the MV after the last chapter - i still think he is

>>157486334
Umm Araki has had same face syndrome forever maybe?

I want Mountain Tim to shit in my mouth

>>157486585
Are you proud of yourself?

>>157486192
Practically every character falls under some archetype anyway.

>>157481528
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan

>>157486192
>her personality isn't shown to be much beyond 'nice teenage girl'
She just beat a cripple up with a metal pipe until he fainted. Where does that fit in that umbrella you thought up?

Even her reason for that "I'm here to help" has plenty of intricacies to it for a Jojo character. Her situation just happens to be handled a little more subtly than those who get flashbacks to their backstories, but that's because it's about modern ennui rather than something melodramatic. The whole thing also ties strongly into the main theme of the part about having somewhere to belong to.

>>157486680
Plenty of nice teenage girl characters are capable of violence, particularly to protect their loved ones. See: Literally any magical girl ever. And don't act as though 'nice teenage girl' is something that I came up with, either.

And like I said before, you're looking at a teaspoon and convincing yourself it's an ocean. Yasuho is there for Josuke above all else, and while that's okay she cannot and does not stand on her own. You know, as I've been saying.

>>157486647
You're right, and there's nothing wrong with that. The issue with characters like Anasui and Yasuho is that there's very little to them outside of the relationships they have with (or the relationships they project, in Anasui's case) the main characters.

>>157486813
The point of the relationship between Josuke and Yasuho is that Yasuho found a way to escape her boring life with Josuke, and that's why she keeps calling him and helping him,because that nice amnesiac guy with a mystery to solve is more interesting than her dysfunctional family and her shitty friends.

>>157486813
>and while that's okay she cannot and does not stand on her own
Okay, maybe we've got different definitions here or something. In what sense do you mean that?

>>157486886
Her mother is dysfunctional but I'm pretty sure her friends are decent. And it's cool that she has fun with Josuke and enjoys being around him, but given that literally all we see her doing is trying to help him (with him surprisingly rarely ever actually getting to hang out with her) it makes her seem like an accessory more often than not.

>>157486893
As I said from the start. If you take away Anasui's relationship with Jolyne, there's a BIT of a character there. We have a guy with a bad temper who disassembled his girlfriend, and who spends his time... hanging out in a piano with Weather, I guess? He throws a tantrum about Mickey one time. But without Jolyne he doesn't really do much, all we'd get from him is his backstory and the sense that he's kind of an asshole and nothing else.

Yasuho is much the same. If you take away her relationship with Josuke, she's a nice teenage girl who gets upset by aggressive sexual advances (like Joshu and those druggies) and has a bad home life. It's a foundation for a character, but a pretty bare-bones one. Yasuho's role in the story revolves pretty much entirely around her relationship with the main character, and given how that's far from the focus of the story (She didn't appear for over a year at one point) she comes off as superfluous, something that's there to provide information above all. Compare her to Gyro, who clearly has his own goals and his own interests and relationships outside of Johnny, which means that his choice to do so has more depth and meaning. Gyro was made to be a cool character. Yasuho was made to help Josuke.

>>157487130
> but given that literally all we see her doing is trying to help him
What about the Doobie Wah fight?

>>157487170
That's part of her trying to help him, doofus. Her and Tsurugi were investigating the fruit (and Aishou) because it clearly had a lot to do with Gappy's origins.

>>157487130
>She didn't appear for over a year at one point
That was a mere two arcs, one of which being very long due to the flashbacks, and a hiatus. She has consistently been the second most central character of the part, appearing in every arc in some capacity save for Milagro Man.

Now you're talking about motives again though. It's true that she wouldn't have gotten involved if it wasn't for Josuke, but she was her own person with her own problems and her own personality even before then and the fact that she's helping out so much despite having not needing to says a lot about her character and how important she thinks it is. Her having been a normal person beforehand is part of her character, she's supposed to be kind of out of her element.

>>157484817
Not our problem if you only see her as your waifu.

>>157485172
He looks like a rocker.

We can agree that while Yasuho isn't Jolyne level, she's much better than Trish, right?

>>157487452
Yes, she makes a lot of appearances - to provide some information that Josuke needs. She's there as an accessory to him.

On that note, what would she do if Josuke died? She doesn't really have any links to the Higashikatas - she ditched Joshu, and while she has some level of fondness for Tsurugi it's probably not enough for her to continue fucking around with all this fruit shit. Her role in JoJolion revolves entirely around how much use she is to Josuke.

Which is my entire point, which I'll repeat again. Most of the other characters are made to be characters. Yasuho was made to help Josuke.

>>157487491
Jolyne > Lucy > Hot Pants > Hato > Yasuho > Hermes > Enya > Tomoko > Yukako > Erina (including Granny Erina) > Trish > Lisa Lisa >>>>>>> Daiya

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>>157487611
What about my girl FF?

>>157487649
Blah blah gross plankton not a real girl blah.

I'd probably put her just after Hot Pants, honestly.

>>157487611
Lisa Lisa shouldn't be that low.

>>157487549
Your entire point is about motives though. Yes, she's there to help Josuke and she wasn't involved in anything wacky on her own before meeting him, but does that invalidate the rest of her characterization somehow? It's not even just because she likes him, we've already discussed how there's more to it than that.

>it's probably not enough for her to continue fucking around with all this fruit shit
She'd continue.

>>157487731
Who's she better than, then?

Even oneshot minor villains like Mariah (Who I didn't bother listing) made more of an impact than she did.

>>157487781
Neither did Yukako or Tomoko. They did jack shit.

>>157487778
I don't think you get this. A character whose only purpose is to support another character is generally weaker than a character who has purposes other than supporting another character. Yasuho and Anasui have very, very little without the main character, whereas other characters with more depth and better writing have motivations outside of that. Jotaro's role in part 3 wasn't about his relationship with his mother, it was about the adventures he had en-route to saving her and what he thought of them. But Yasuho's role in the story isn't like that - it's for her to be there to give Josuke answers when he needs them. I don't know how many times I have to say this.

I'm going to have to strongly disagree with your headcanon there, too. There's nothing to suggest she'd go on risking her life for the Higashikatas (especially since she now knows that Jobin himself is a threat) who she has virtually nothing to do with.

>>157485917
It's fairly popular and still has a sizable fanbase. Generally from what I understand about nip readers they loved part 1, disliked part 2, loved part 3, disliked part 4, considered part 5 to be the pinnacle of the series, hated part 6, and then everyone was split on love/hate for part 7. And part 8 seems to be getting fairly positive attention thus far.

Part 3 is classic JoJo for them though and they think it represents the series best as a whole on top of Jotaro being an instantly recognizable design is why Mangaka tend to draw him most. Although not always off the top of my head for the 25th anniversary Kishimoto drew Giorno, Kubo drew Ghiacco, the Shaman King guy had drawn Jolyne, and Takahashi drew Gappy I think? Though yeah there were a ton of Jotaros from like Toriyama, Murata, Oda, and the Toriko guy.

>>157485917
I mean, Araki himself drew Jotaro a lot as if he was the mascot of JoJo. Not all other mangaka drew only him, but the ones who did probably did it because Jotaro is supposed to represent the entire series. I'm sure it's the same with the "mascots" of other series, they will pick one character in particular as a tribute to that specific manga.

I don't know exactly how popular JoJo is in Japan (in general) or why but of course the pre-2000 stuff seems to be more memorable than the rest (not just part 3). Maybe it's like Pokémon in the West, if you get what I'm saying.

>>157487858
>Lisa Lisa
>Better than Tomoko who has a sweet and funny relationship with her son
>Better than Yukako who was the villain of one arc and the protagonist of another
That certainly is an opinion.

>>157488012
>Generally from what I understand about nip readers they loved part 1, disliked part 2, loved part 3, disliked part 4, considered part 5 to be the pinnacle of the series, hated part 6, and then everyone was split on love/hate for part 7
Virtually all of these seem bizarrely off.
Part 1 is respected but doesn't seem to be peoples favorite, part 2 (Joseph in particular) are liked very much, part 3 is where it became explosively popular, part 4 is very popular, part 5 is less popular than 4 but has a larger fujo fanbase, part 6 is generally regarded with indifference, and most of them didn't read part 7.

>>157487781
She's better than Trish at least.

>>157488153
Trish crashed a plane with no survivors, and her antics while in Mista's body were pretty funny. It's more than what Lisa Lisa got.
>Killed one shitty vampire
>Got tricked and fucked over
>Spent the final fight unconscious and being used to manipulate Joseph
>Had a flashback which reveals the tweest of her being his mother
And the nipple scene >>>>>>> the bath scene.

>>157487714
>FF had a great character arc, but died too soon
>HP never completed her character arc, but she was active throughout the part
Conflicted

>>157487975
I on the other hand don't know how many times I have to emphasize that while helping Josuke is the reason she gets involved it's not all there is to her. Boiling an entire character down to just their motive reminds me of that one villain ranking image. It's not just about her wanting to help Josuke, it's about her trying to find somewhere to belong to in a more general sense and how she deals with all the situations she's not entirely prepared for. She has already grown increasingly tougher and more resourceful after learning of her stand.

>headcanon
Nonsense. She has already risked her life before. If Josuke died she'd sure as hell want to finish what he started.

>>157488230
Lisa Lisa trained Joseph and had a big impact on him. She helped him mature.

>>157488247
Basically. F.F was consistently good but you blink and you'll miss her, and her fight with Dragons Dream was pretty lame and too long. Her death-scene was fucking fantastic, though. HP never hit the same heights as F.F, but her fights were better, and she had a constant presence in the part which gradually revealed her backstory. Her death-scene was blink and you'll miss it, though.

When I first read it I thought that she'd reappear and play a part in the final battle, it seemed too lame and sudden a send-off for a major supporting character. Even Wekapipo had it better.

>>157488314
And once again, a characters motive and their role are not the same thing, but in Yasuho's case they are. Yasuho's motive is helping Josuke. Her role is also helping Josuke. It's what she was made for and she's done nothing outside of it for almost the entire comic. You seem to really love this, and that's okay, but as I've said, multiple times, you're seeing depth when it isn't there. Characters like Gyro have interests and motivations outside of the hero. Yasuho does not. She has some Freudian reasoning behind it, but at the end of the day, Yasuho is there to be Josuke's assistant, not a character that can stand on her own. Once again, I've said all of this. Many, many times now. I hope it sinks in this time.

And you're making assumptions, to, to further support your interpretation of Yasuho's role in the comic not ACTUALLY being all about Josuke. Until we see evidence of it, there's nothing suggesting that she'd do that.

>>157488331
Loggins and Messina trained Joseph. All Lisa Lisa did was throw him into the oily penis pit.

>>157487611
Lacks best krill F.F

>>157488609
Plankton have questionable place on a girls chart.

What are we really supposed to judge F.F by, though? I could see arguments being made for girl, animal or stand.

>>157488101
I don't know man I had a few Nippon friends in college that all had the general consensus among themselves and everyone they knew that Part 1 was the cornerstone of the series, part 2 was entirely skippable, part 3 is what made JoJo so iconic, 4 was liked but not as interesting, part 5 was thought of as a better part 3, part 6 got a lot of hate mainly with the cast and Jolyne's Stand, and SBR was mixed reception. And I've seen a lot of the same reactions online.

>>157488668
She's basically a human gril when she steals that bod, her besties considered her one at least.

>>157488674
I don't think your Japanese friends represent the general opinion. Part 4 being disliked stands out in particular, as does part 5 supposedly being the height of it.

>>157488547
She 'can't stand on her own' only in the sense that she wouldn't have gotten involved without him, just like how Johnny wouldn't have been involved because he wanted to learn about Gyro's balls. You're dismissing all the points I make simply as "seeing depth when it isn't there", but not actually bothering to point out how any of it is false.

She has become kind of a mother figure to Tsurugi. Why would she not help him out?

>>157488722
I guess so, she even seemed to start considering herself more human, as shown by her stand-form looking more like Etroe towards the end.

>>157488547
>>157488736
Holy shit shut the fuck up

>>157488761
Didn't she look like that just because she was badly injured?

>>157488788
Hey, it's actual discussion. Much better than what we usually see.

>>157488788
I just really enjoy discussing the merits of characters I consider underappreciated. You're probably right though, we're just repeating ourselves now.

Japan's favourite parts: 3 5
America's favourite parts: 2 4 7

Japan's least favourite part: 6
America's least favourite part: 5

>>157488736
Once again, no, no, no. She is involved because she's there to help Josuke. Helping Josuke is her motive. Helping Josuke is also what she does.

Johnny's motive was gathering the corpse parts so he could value himself. But his role wasn't just him mindlessly doing that - it was about his growth as a person, and his friendship with Gyro.

Yasuho is not remotely like that. Her motive was helping Josuke. And her role is helping Josuke too. They are the same thing, and it's not as interesting.

Do you get it? Do you understand what I'm saying?

>>157488870
Her motive is escaping her shitty fucking life. Escaping her shitty fucking life by helping Josuke uncover mysteries is what she does.

>>157488852
Part 5 would be much better received if we got the good translations from the start

>>157481525
go anime till part 4 then read part 4 then go back to the anime for part 4 then continue with the rest of the mangas

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>>157488793
Nah, when she first came out of it she looked like her Xenomorph form. It gradually changed to be more humanoid until it looked exactly like Etroe with different colours.

>>157488909
The retranslations are definitely helping. Though I think a lot of people are missing out because they aren't easily accessible.
The inevitable anime will be the biggest help for it.

>>157488852
Are you judging the whole American fanbase by these threads? 3 should be high too, and 5 is very popular among tumblr types.

>>157488907
You're grossly exaggerating her angst, and even if you weren't it wouldn't change anything. Yasuho wants to help Josuke, and what she does in the comic is help Josuke. Her feelings aren't what I'm talking about. I have said this. Again and again and again.

>>157489056
Yes, pretty obviously.

The idea that 5 is more popular than 4 seems particularly off, given that 4 seems to get referenced a ton more in other media. And the notion that they hate 2 is absolutely ludicrous.

>>157489089
I never said she was angry.
>Her feelings aren't what I'm talking about.
They're a pretty good explanation for her behaviour.

>>157489147
Anger isn't what 'angst' means. Angst means general dread and dissatisfaction.

Anyway, as I have repeatedly said: Yasuho's motivation is helping Josuke. Obviously if she didn't have feelings on the subject then she wouldn't be doing it. I am not talking about the motivation for her motivation. I am talking about how her motivation for the story and her role in the story are the same thing. I have said this. Again and again and again.

I love Narancia and the anime.

>>157489089
>exaggerating
No, he's right. I talked about the ways it manifests a couple of times earlier.

You can also see pretty much any time she shows up how thirsty for any kind of non-Joshuu affection she is. Look at her and Josuke's reunion scene and how much more forward she is compared to him. Who asks someone to sing like that?

>>157489254
Yes, you keep repeating it, it doesn't mean you're right.
The thing is, Yasuho is living a generally disappointing life, her mother is shit, her dad is nowhere to be found, she doesn't care much about her friends, she has no lover except a creepy stalker she knows from childhood, and one day she meets an amnesiac dude with a mystery to solve concerning his story, she learns about stands, she has feelings for the guy, why would she not want to help him?
Helping Josuke is exciting and she's in love with him, there's a breaking point between her life before she knew him and her life after, now she's living a life full of action and dangers, what do you want her to do, stay at home and study? She doesn't care about school much from what we've seen. Stay at home and play videogames like the fuckup her mom is? No, she wants to go out with the man she loves and learn about him, etc. It's completely fine.

>>157489307
>Teenage girl is friendly with and flirts with teenage boy
>It must be because of her horrible home-life
Anon...

>>157489429
>The environment someone was raised in doesn't affect how they behave
Explain this

>>157489429
Sounds silly when you put it like that, but it is part of it. It's both hinted at and outright said that she's projecting her own issues onto him due to his lack of identity.

>>157489133
What are you even talking about it's pretty common knowledge that the Japanese ate up the whole DIO'S SON galavanting across Italy and fighting mobsters a lot more than the condensed small town serial killer mystery with SoL elements.

Part 4 is popular but Part 5 is considered 'thr best' or right under part 3

What's you guys' favorite stands of all time? Mine is Weather Report/Heavy Weather

>>157489405
And you keep shrilly repeating yourself, post after post after post, it doesn't mean you're right. You're in fact proving that you're wrong by projecting stuff like Yasuho's relationship with her friends onto her.

As I said before, I am not talking about the motivation for Yasuho's motivation. Obviously she has emotions involved. Obviously. It's the same way that Jotaro loves his mother and wants her not to die. Both of these characters have a similar motive - Jotaro to help Holly, and Yasuho to help Josuke. Their feelings for this motive are different. I really hope you're following, you should be because I haven't said anything new here. Anyway, these characters both want to help, but the roles they take in the story are different. Jotaro's story focuses on his adventures, the friends he makes, and the things that he does. Yasuho's story focuses on her helping Josuke. Which, as we have hopefully established, is the same as her motive. Her motive and her role in the story are the same thing. I hope that talking like Mojo JoJo might help here.

I think I'm going to end this here out a combination of exhaustion and uncertainty that you even understand what I've been saying, given that you thought angst meant anger and how you seem to keep confusing Yasuho's inner emotional reasoning with her motivation.

>>157489525
There's plenty about Yasuho that obviously does stem from her shitty home-life (look at how much of Joshu's shit she put up with) but that absolutely isn't. It's what it looks like, a teenage girl and a teenage boy being carefree and playful while they have the chance.

>>157489587
Casual reminder that Giorno is the worst thing about his own part.

>>157489606
Sex Pistols

>>157489670
>projecting stuff like Yasuho's relationships with her friends onto her
>projecting her behaviour onto her character
>this is somehow wrong
>confusing Yasuho's inner emotional reasoning with her motivation
>these are somehow not the same thing
What the fuck am I reading? I understand completely what you mean by "her role in the story is to help Josuke" but first off, how is that bad? And even then, it's pretty well explained. She also doesn't JUST help Josuke, you're blowing things out of proportion.

>>157489670
>Jotaro's story focuses on his adventures, the friends he makes, and the things that he does.
Not him, but does Yasuho not have adventures, does Yasuho not become friends with Tsurugi, does Yasuho not do any things?

>>157489804
No anon, Yasuho just helps Josuke. She has never done anything else. She never will do anything else. Just, help Josuke.

>>157489751
Eh, you could be right, but I think it's a little bit of A and a little bit of B.

Thinking about it now it's kind of a wonder their relationship is as nice and healthy as it is considering that even on Josuke's side it starts out like a sort of imprinting. There's lots of childbirth symbolism going on in the first chapter where she pulls him out of the hole and his first words are her name.

>>157489606
killer queen or dfc i cant decide

>>157490034
>Yasuho is going to fuck her son

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>>157489606
Cazy Diamond is the best to me. I even bought a figure.

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>>157489606
SHE'S A KILLA QUEEN
GUNPOWDER GELATINE
DYNAMITE WITH A LAZER BEAM

>>157490970
Lewd Diamond

I'm reading Over Heaven and just now I noticed DIO's keywords for getting into heaven contain "rhinoceros beetle" four times. Jobin has a room full of rhinoceros beetles.
Is there something about these bugs, or is Jobin going to be Dio?

>>157488547
How do you judge female chracters?

>JoJo is good.

Do you think Tomoko could have gotten a stand if the arrow stabbed her?

>>157482290
My favourite jojo

>>157491216
It might just be a call back. After all, part 8 has call backs to pretty much every part now.

>>157491845
I can see it happening, to become a stand user one has to be passionate about something, have the will to fight, and she is that kind of a person.

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If they play Tusk when Tusk act 4 comes out and starts kicking Valentine's ass when they do a part 7 anime, I'll be rock hard. It'd be kino as fuck.

>>157482290
Yeah, he's based.

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>>157475893
>Battle Tendency is the dogma

>>157482290
I like his hair

>>157477275
Then what are Parts 5 and 6 then?

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who is the best JoJo and why is it Rai Mamezuku

>>157492947
>on my way to get that bean

>>157492921
The beginning of Jojo's descent into SJW bullshit

>>157492971
Where is the SJW bullshit in 5,6,7 OR 8?

>>157475744
Part 5 anime trailer ETA?

>>157493079
An actual trailer and not a teaser? Probably next year

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>>157492947
>Love Rai, enjoying the bean puns
>Reading all the impostor theories last thread

H-h-h-he's a good guy, right?

>>157489606
Diver Down

>>157491438
Literally like any character.

>>157493921
But they're girls

>>157491438
Not very well.

>>157489606
Silver Chariot

is /jojo/ the least autistic "muh waifu" fanbase on /a/?

>>157494767
Yes, and it's at the same time the most autistic 'muh husbando" fanbase on /a/

>>157489606
King Crimson's ability is my favorite, my favorite design is In a Silent Way or Harvest.

>>157494876
>ywn be gangbanged by every jojo male character

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>>157494767
>>157494876
Speaking of husbando, I'll just post the best husbando, don't mind me.

>>157485172
Boss you have beautiful fragmented eyes

>>157475744
wait a second, is that a jojo reference?

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>>157494876
Sadly true.

I blame Araki for making the husbandos too good, though.

>>157494876
Well, you're not wrong

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>>157495041
Your husbando can go back to outer space, I'm posting the real best husbando. He even brings his own sex toys.

>>157495041
He's the best of you only care about being raped and then eaten which isn't actually bad

>>157495595
What a wonderful way to die

>>157495279
Why are his eyes fragmented?

>>157481847
It's also by far the most popular part in Japan, so...

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>>157495041
>implying

>>157495542
Can he survive in lava ?

>>157496111
He is a Jojo. they survive anything except tentacle rape from adoptive brother turned vampire.

>>157496098
>>157495542
>>157495041
>implying any man in JoJo is best husbando
All of them have something that could kill you or otherwise make you feel really bad.

>>157496297
>All of them have something that could kill you or otherwise make you feel really bad.

[/spoiler]that's why they're hawt

>Seeks to claim the ultimate power-up
>No sense of loyalty to his people; will betray with no qualms
>Arguably misogynistic
>Beautiful long hair and partially revealing clothing
>"Only the results matter"
>Fans usually favor his companion more

Of who do I speak?

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>>157496297
That's the attractive part, anon.

It just makes me want to dominate him even more.

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>>157496474
Oberstein from LotGH in a bikini?

>>157496297
That's why you pick someone chill like Nutman.

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>>157496474
>Arguably misogynistic

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>>157496474
My first thought was slutty vampire but thinking about it, I'm guessing Kars?

>>157485286
>>157485370
I was speaking more in terms of faces being weirdly drawn in the TV versions.

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>>157496474
Is it Lord Kars?

>>157496609
Is Diavolo a misogynist?
Discuss.

>>157496297
Giorno would be a pretty chill husbando. He could make you flowers or a pet any time you want and he's also fucking loaded.

>>157496698
You could argue either side forever because he's just a sociopath who looks down on everyone else anyways

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>>157496698
No. He does not have contempt for all women because they're women. Not having a mother or mother figure during his childhood was pretty obviously damaging though, every single relationship he's had with women have been especially disastrous.

>>157496775
>You will never make Giorno your wife to steal his money

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>>157482290
you bet I do

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>>157496098
I like him blond more.

>>157496297
>implying I don't also want to die

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>>157497350
Why did Giorno's smile disappear? Where did it go? He was so smug in the early chapters.

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>>157497797
it is replaced with pure smug

>>157496917
Do you think Araki will ever spill the deets on his date with Donatella?

>>157497797
His smile and optimism: gone

>>157498034
It's been almost 20 years since that so I don't think so

>>157498034
Doubtful, unless he talks about Bossu in interviews when the anime rolls around
It probably went something like this though
>Meet some pushy tourist woman who wants to step on my hot twink dick
>She's actually pretty so I'll take her back to my hometown
>But I won't give her my real name
>She wants to take my picture but I sperg out
>I autistically snatch her camera and take her picture instead
>She rapes me like papa but it feels good

>>157489606
call me old-fashioned, but i really like The World.

either that or KIller Queen

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Why cut Fugo out of the fight he was supposed to be in? I mean if absolute zero kills every single living thing then his viruses would be useless anyway so he'd have to hide. Then at the end he could brutally beat Ghaccio down instead of Giorno while Giorno heals Mista's wounds. I mean it would've at least been something for Fugo

I think Gappy has a stupid hat

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>>157497797
Quit memeing. He smiles plenty.

>>157498778
Are you joking

>>157498879
It looks better now. Early JJL the brim was so high up his hat looked like a trapazoid.

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>>157498480
>She rapes me like papa but it feels good

>>157498480
>raped by his entire town
>raped by girlfriend
>molested twice when he visits sardinia again
>raped endlessly by GER
Tragic life.

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>>157498778
Fugo in White Album would've been great, him and Ghiacchio would have hilarious interactions.
But then again, White Album is excellent the way it is, so I don't how he'd fit into the battle dynamic.

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>>157495041
Obviously the best husbando is the one with the best ass.

>>157500432
99% diapers
1% ass

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>>157497542
I like Kosaku Kira more

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>>157495041
>tfw your husbando is only 1 year older than you and plays videogames like you
He's best husbando for me

Just imagine an AU where the whole of Part 7 is just horses being carted around by humans in rickshaws

>>157501070
>D'ARBY THE GAMBLER PART 3
Huh?

>>157500788
I like David Bowie more sorry. His hair curls are cute.

>>157501198
Steel Shoe Gallop

>>157475970
>not Funny Valentine

diavorelo

>>157475970
>>157502021
Fuck off.

>>157501212
Shitty old scans.

>>157501198
Imagine part 7 as a car race

>>157502709
Steel Fidget Race?

>>157502818
Sandman tries to be a hipster in the car race and enters with a horse

The best stands are cheap trick, B.I.G, yoyo ma, and hey ya!

why jojo threads attract so many shitpposters ?

>>157502866
Johnny is transsexual and that's why he's shooting nails

Lotta single parents in this series.

>>157503057
Did Araki grow up with 1 parent?

>>157482290
Gio x Mista OTP

>>157504253
But Mista is for body swap sex with Trish

>>157482290
I like him, he's chill and cool.

>>157477275
Are you mentally handicapped?

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>JoJo Key visual art book
http://imgur.com/a/JQZR6

>>157505432
Awesome, thanks doc

>>157505432
Thanks Doc.
Am I the only one who doesn't like the anime art style? It looks sort of cheap and blocky.

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>>157505432
>Mega download link
https://mega.nz/#F!w8k3GCJb!kCQ7rmuzIyZlTl3nEP1CXw

Note, the imgur album is not ordered.

>>157505648
>It looks sort of cheap and blocky.
I agree.

I just realised The World has clocks on the back of his hand and is actually wearing scuba gear
kill me

Anyone else that Jobin is one of the most fascinating villains in the series

>>157506499
think

>>157506499
that's not ringo and kira

>>157506499
i wish there were more casual interactions with josuke, they live in the same house.

>>157506622
Kira's my favorite villain,Ringo's my favorite minor villain but i find Jobin more fascinating how he deconstructs a lot Villain Tropes for the series and even more so if he's the main antagonist

>>157506622
>kira
>fascinating

>>157506704
josuke and jobin, i meant.