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PERFECTION
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Best female Kaioshin coming through.
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>>157422603
>>157422897
>Serious tone like in Z
>Implying the Future Trunks arc wasn't serious
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More like Dragon Ball Supbar amirite
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post your donut making pose
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Daily reminder that they have the same age.
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>>157423061
>Got the bubblegum dick
>wasn't even good enough to absorb
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>>157423013

No, this is perfection.
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>>157423063
Yeah seriously shit.
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>tfw body is so perfect that it's hard to draw it
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>>157423013
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>>157423063
It wasn't
The prologue part with Trunks where Bulma died was intense, yeah, but overall it was just meh
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What expression is the trying to convey?
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>>157423153
Trunks get off the computer.
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>>157423309
>"hey what's your power level, mine's pretty big"
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>>157422897
Yeah, I understand you.
But I don't think that's the focus of the actual show, considering the target audience and the story itself.

As you can see, the first "serious" arc in the series ended up with an erased universe and a dead kaioshin, plus a new transformation, so they gotta be careful when writing it.

I like to think that Super is portrayed as an anime of "resting" for the Z-Fighters.

Sure, they still keep on training and facing new enemies, but at a way lower demand than before and almost no risk of death, allowing them to resolve character issues, developing them to the max.
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Can SSG/SSB be sensed in the manga? Has anyone ever mentioned the whole "I can't sense his ki" thing about the forms in the manga?
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>>157423617
No, I believe that line is from the BoG movie
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>>157423412
future trunks had a hard life
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>>157423309
>the cereal I had for breakfast today was pretty good
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>>157423617
>>157423704
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>>157423617
Yes, Gohan mentions he can't feel Goku's ki
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What does it feel to sense ki? A strong one?
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>>157423779
>that QUALITY
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>>157423184
torankusu
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>>157423617
God ki can be sensed in the anime. It just has to be learned. Vegeta can sense Whis and Golden Frieza can do it.
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>>157423309
>That Cabba is so hot. I just wanna grab him and...
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Is Hit not a mortal? He clearly sensed SSB
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>>157423013
So I wonder why is the Pedro/spics meme still alive considering we SAW on /spa/ that shitposters are burgers?
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Toyo used the elbow here, by toeishill logic, he's tracing again
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>>157423779
Nice find, totally forgot about that.
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>>157423309
>My feet hurt
>I wish I was in universe 11
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>>157423309
>Fucking manlet acting so tough, I bet his powerlevel is small
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>>157423980
That Cabba looks disgusting.
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>>157423995
>I wish I was in universe 11
Still butthurt huh?
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>>157423980
>toyo traced the same shot twice
wew
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>>157424028
Please love me, daddy.
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>>157423831
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>>157423980
Look at Hit's dickhead
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>>157424074
>>157424079
OVERLOAD
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Hey Mai!
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>>157424124
MAI
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>>157424127
/a/ hold me, I'm going to commit a crime
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>>157424173
Put it back!
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>this thread
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>>157424189
MAAAAIIIII
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Toyo actually foreshadowed that Vegeta wasn't at 100% against Hit. Re-reading I'm catching a lot of his small clues. I thought he just pulled it out of his ass in the next chapter

To bad he never explained how Goku can use SSG at will
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>>157424127
>not posting the full gif
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>>157424183
Kid Torankusu isn't for lewd anon.
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>>157423980
Nice catch.
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>>157423828
SOON
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>>157424183
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>>157424219
He is though
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>>157423309
>fuck this cabba guy is cute
>i wonder how cute his butt looks
>fuck i'm getting wet again
>gotta clear the dirty thoughts
>a shit I can feel a drop going down my thighs
>clear the dirty thoughts clear the dirty thoughts come on kale
>oh god he's looking this way
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>>157424253
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>>157424253
What did Toriyama mean by this?
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>>157424074
femtrunks gives my trunks a shaking
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>>157424323
>t. Cabba
She's looking with disgust at his noodle limbs and small base power level.
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>>157424355
>>157424253
>>157424127
Proof the ancient romans were enlightned.
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>>157424380
This.
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>>157424395
m-maifag please! do not!
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>>157424253
>>157424355
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>>157424365
Toei has some strange obsession with shotas.
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We got a bunch of sick bastards in this thread.
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>>157424250
very soon
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>you will never suck on kid Goku's penis
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>>157423142
Hell, Gohan showed more of a gradual aging. He looked more like a adolescent at 11 than fucking Trunks does at damn near 15.

Dragon Ball Stupor strikes again.
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>>157424509
Why is she sucking Goku off?
>>157424540
>(I'm here from /pol/)
You have to go back.
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>>157424416
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>>157424561

nope. Too many T_D refugees. What do you think about Dragonball Super?
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>>157423013
I think you mean, "one of the laziest fucking designs ever" and that also includes super saiyan god
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>>157424540
>Supreme Kai says that there are only 28 planets with Mortals in Goku's universe
Toriyama confirmed in Jaco The Patrolman before Super was even made that there weren't many planets with life in them in the universe.
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>>157424540
There's only 28 planets because of Frieza, Kid Buu, and Beerus who destroys planets based on food and how "disrespected" he feels.
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>>157424597
Better than GT.
Steadily improving.
Still not that great at this point.
Makes me wish we got more movies instead of a series.
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>>157424253
>>157424355
I know there's more
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I love Goten!
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>>157424681
Who is that? Why do you have a picture of kid Goku with Pan?
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Spoiler, at the time nd of the tournament The grand priest kills both Xenos, with food from universe 9
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>>157424509

Source plz
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>>157424677
I think that's all anon.
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>>157424766
>Xenos
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When we getting the damn official translation?

It's already 11 PM for me. I thought we got it on fridays the day of?
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>>157424803
Shut Zamasu no one cares.
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Smug Goku is best Goku
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>>157424766
>Xenos
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>>157424766
>>157424803
>>157424908
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>>157423937
He probably had some contact with it beforehand. When Vados and Champa call him for the tournament, it seems he already knows them.
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WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG FOR THE EPISODE TO COME
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>>157424540
Dragon ball universe ≠ the real universe. and maybe all of the universes were originally one universe that it got separated by some kind magic or something related to the gods or the super dragon ball
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The first dragonball was the best dragonball.
Who remembers The witch Baba and his warriors, the rabbit gang, Tao, Launch? It was so fun and imaginative. After Frieza everything feels the same screaming contest. Magic disappears and character design is lame af. Death has no consequences.

Dragonball ends with Frieza's death. Everything else is weeb material.
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Drawfag reporting in with one fresh out of the oven
Any news?
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>>157424681
Slep tight Goten-kun.
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>>157425037
>sleps
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Vegeta's a cutie
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>>157424766
>>157424803
>>157424908
Scientology confirmed for final boss of Dragon Ball
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>>157425037
Goten is so cute. :3
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>>157425032
Cabba getting BULLIED in the butt.
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>>157424253
>>157424355
Dragon Ball had such great shota, too bad they can't do that anymore
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kek
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>>157424809
The chapter doesn't officially release until the 21st.
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>>157424776
https://nhentai.net/g/154818/
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>>157425057
you have been visited by the goten of comfy sleps, character development and powerups will come to you but you must post, "slep tight goten-kun".

Seriously though it sounds cuter than sleeps,sleep, or sleeping.
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>>157425131
I can't believe Gohan was replaced by Yamcha.
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BEACH EPISODE FUCKING WHEN?
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>>157425131
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>>157425216
Soon
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>>157425131
Bringing dead people to the tournament should be cheating. Frieza now has unlimited stamina and can be Golden as long as he feels like.
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>>157425131
https://youtu.be/wcinzmfZeCc
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Is there a even character that’s close to being as perfect as Cell? Let alone be him. And I'm not talking about Perfect Cell. I'm not talking about Super Perfect either. Hell, I'm not even talking about SSGSS Golden Cell. I’m also not talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with 9001 SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs & obtained Beerus & Whis' DNA. I'm definitely NOT Talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with 9001 SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs & obtained Beerus, Whis, Champa & Vados' DNA after absorbing enough Spiral Power & Getter Rays to use SSGSS Golden Tengen Toppa Getter Emperor. I'm talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with an infinite number of SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs, wished himself immortal with the Super Dragon Balls & obtained Beerus, Whis, Champa, Vados, Zeno, Madara Uchiha & Ultimate Kars' DNA to obtain Requiem versions of every Stand (including but not limited to Gold Experience Requiem, Made in Heaven Requiem, The World Over Heaven Requiem & D4C Requiem) after absorbing enough Spiral Power & Getter Rays to use SSGSS Golden Tengen Toppa Getter Emperor as he pilots Elder Demonbane with Cosmic Armor, Power Cosmic, and Omega effect, the Anti-Life Equation also flowing through his veins, while he does 101 Push-ups, 101 Sit-ups, 101 Squats, 11 km run per day for over 4 months inside the sun after ingesting Kryptonian DNA (to somehow obtain infinite power from a finite source) after consuming Popeye's Spinach while riding the writer's cock to battle.
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>>157425174
wtf did rob liefield draw this?
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>>157425250
>until he fades away into the void as he exists outside space time
fix'd for you.
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>>157425267
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>>157425238
>Mai isn't barefoot
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Is Frieza going to be the only dead fighter?
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>>157423937
His neck is too thick
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>>157423967
more like fucking leafs
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>>157425319
Probably. It would be cool if another universe brought dead fighters, or fighters from their Demon Realm, but I doubt that it will happen
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>>157425267
I'd like to see Cell fight again. They already used Frieza in the movie and Cell can do lots of shenaningans by absorbing stuff.
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>>157423013
>Draw SSB
>take away the aura
>pretend it's special

Even SSJ2 had more creativity put into it.
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>>157425571
Too hard to draw [laughs]
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>>157423013
But we've seen Blue without the aura before though..
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>>157425571
The fact they're choosing shit tier human because of their special techniques and ignoring cell is baffling.
the fucker has all of their techniques and is comfortably SSJ2 level.
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Holy shit, people still watch this shit?
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>>157425428
Since they brought this possibility with Frieza, the chances are high desu
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>>157425599
Ever heard of FPSS?
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>>157425677
Whoa, easy with the bad words, Re:zerofag
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>>157425673
because he's a dull canon oc donut steel
"ok ok ok so like he can survive anything even being blown up because he can regenerate like pickleo but better and and and he can power up with transformations like fireza vut he's got another one like super sayen and also he can do the kamihamiha better than Goku and also he's from the future and..."

He's dull as shit
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>>157424655
Wrong Jaco was describing our Milky Way Galaxy.
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>>157426033
SHUT UP
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>>157425148
It releases on the 20th in Japan which is today in the West.
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>>157425826
Doesn't matter, not bringing him back is retarded because his abilities allow him to fill the niche Humans have while leaving open two extra spaces for stronger fighters.
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>>157425693
FPSS wasn't played off as something particularly special, given how both Goku and Gohan had it and was still outclassed by Cell and SSJ2.
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I don't much like the manga, but I do like the idea of a "Full-Power" SSJB. Leaves an obvious hint that Goku's gonna be forced to get another format ah-la SSJ2.
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>>157425267
Lava Goku can with no problem
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>>157426366
>Leaves an obvious hint that Goku's gonna be forced to get another format ah-la SSJ2.
No
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>>157426388
but can lava goku defeat magma broly?

magma is hotter because it's in the ground longer, not cooling in the air, remember
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Have you seen this? http://imgur.com/gallery/b3WlL It's one of the best fan projects I've ever read. I can't wait for the next chapter!
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>>157426388
Didn't Broly in Second Coming BTFO Lava Gokufags?
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>>157426394
Explain your reasoning.
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>>157426413
>fan project
I know you're fucking trolling me but this is an official product from Shueisha.
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>>157426412
>>157426425
How about Sand Goku?
ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Suna_(Sand)_Goku
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>>157426413
>fan projects
It's an official noncanon manga
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>>157426478
Ice Goku would push his shit in
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>>157426413
>It's one of the best fan projects I've ever read.
Come on anon. It's not even Arrow's best work
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>>157426491
>noncanon
I think you mean non main continuity.
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>>157425826
Sounds like Black.
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>>157426413
No thanks.
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>>157423061
You posted the wrong girl
REAL best femkai coming through
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>>157426413
only complaint is that it's kind of rushed in its pacing.
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>>157425250
I wonder how they'll handle/balance this.
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>>157423013
>can't even beat Vegeta in a fight
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>>157426880
He holds back so he does not embarrass/damage his ego
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>>157423063
It was until the Zeno button happened
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>Roshi is a teacher
>Tien is a teacher
>Piccolo is a teacher
>Satan is a teacher
>Vegeta is a teacher
>Cabba is a teacher
I wonder where they're going with this
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>>157426840
Time burn.
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When is the newest chapter going to get translated?
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Daily reminder Vegeta is best boy and always has been
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>>157426994
In a few hours.
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>>157426532
Excuse me?
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>>157424209
>To bad he never explained how Goku can use SSG at will

Yeah, that makes no sense to me.

Becoming Super Saiyan Blue requires a higher threshold of power that can only be attained by becoming Super Saiyan God, thus negating the need to have five pure-blooded Saiyans on-hand whenever a fight's about to go down. It makes total sense to use SSB as an alternative and I thought it was a clever bit of writing back in Resurrection F.

But treating Super Saiyan God as a transition between Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan Blue makes no fucking sense. It's honestly my only real complaint with the Super manga.
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>>157426994
>Needing tranlations for DB
look at this pleb.
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>>157426977
Didn't SS3 suck away Goku's time when he activated it? It was implied that Golden could be much more energy efficient if Frieza had worked with it, but Goku's all but dropped SS3.
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>>157427117
I'm more interested in how they'll rope him in.
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>>157427088
I like it a million bajallion quintillion times more than Beyond God Baseform.
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>>157427160
10 million zenny
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>>157426962
Theory:
> Team Goku wins the tournament

> Somehow The universes are not destroyed

> Each member of team Goku becomes the master of martial arts of a different universe

> The legacy of Master Roshi is spread throughout the universes
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>>157427117
>Didn't SS3 suck away Goku's time when he activated it?
Exactly. It's probably what will happen to Frieza too if he goes Golden. He hasn't had the chance to train that form in Hell, being trapped in a cocoon and all, unless they pull some bullshit like he trained by meditating or something.
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>>157427187
Unironically want this to happen desu.
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>>157423180
>>157425267
https://e-hentai.org/s/9500450ec8/1064158-1
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>>157427292
>Frieza takes the money
>Offers it to Goku for a wish on the dragon balls
>Revives himself
>Demands 10 million zenny to leave peacefully
>profit
It's genius
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>>157427187
>>157427292
>You need to help us fight
>Fuck off I hate where I am, but I hate all of you even more
>We'll give you 10 million zenny
>I don't even know what that is
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The only fucking reason I'm watching Super is so I can Pan's older design and draw cute Pan x Uub fan art

When the fuck are we getting it?
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>>157427490
never
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>>157427490
Uub is not going to end up with Pan. Uub is going to end up with Marron.
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>>157427201
>Roshi gets assigned to U6
>Kung fu Saiyans with maximum amount of potential

You don't know how badly I want that
The Universal Turtle School sounds fucking awesome
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>>157427414
>Dragon Garou Lee
This is canon, how can cellfags even recover?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCDxkt_HtRE
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>>157423063
>HURR I FORGOT SENZUS IN BATHROOM
>DURR I FORGOT TO TAKE THE RIGHT SEAL
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>>157427673
He looks like ningen
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>>157427490
Older Pan won't be in Super. Super is ending at EoZ as Toyotaro has already stated.

It's okay, though, Toei is planning to continue the series after Super ends with a sequel, "Dragon Ball Super Z"
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>>157426125
The humans work better under the non killing rules of the tournament because the strong fighters can't go all out against them and that gives them better chance to create an strategy, and that's a big advantage over cell that probably would have been treated like a punching bag after showing his regenerations powers
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>>157427863
Toyotaro said it has reach the end of Z eventually but also that they aren't writing with an end in mind, just like Toriyama did.
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>>157427932

choo choo all aboard the money train! Let's milk this shounen to the last cent. Man I can't wait for Dragon Ball Super Mega Giga ZZ! Goku and Vegeta bragging in a retirement home about the good old days of 67 seasons ago.
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>>157427932
I know, I was joking around. The whole "Super is ending at EoZ because Toyotaro said so" is a rumour that came from people misinterpreting a statement Toyotaro made at a press event in Italy. What he actually said was "We don't intend to write over the end of Dragon Ball Z" referring to them not planning to alter the end of the Dragon Ball Z manga when they eventually reach it. Naturally people took this and ran with it, misinterpreting it as him saying "Super will not go past the end of Dragon Ball Z", which is simply not what Toyotaro said.
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>>157428114
The series has been a cash cow for more than 20 years. A little late to complain about it now
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Someone explain the Hit and donuts meme to me I've been living under a rock.
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>>157428211
Xenoverse 2. One of his select quotes says "It's time to make the donuts."
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>>157425131
The new Z Fighters.
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>Gregory (an anime original character) is in the Super anime
>doesn't appear in the Super manga

Is the Super anime canon to the anime and the manga canon to the manga?
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>>157428365
Super also featured some filler characters from Dragon Ball in Tien's episode
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>yfw Frieza actually has become nicer thanks to his time in Hell
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>>157428237
Why?
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>>157428237
The fuck? That sounds random as hell.
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>>157428521
>>157428531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-pUSkxJxgc
Beats me. Because he punches holes in people?
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>>157428589
I was told it was because one of his Jap lines was a reference to something Japanese and they just turned it into a reference to some English commercial.
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>>157428490
>tfw Frieza probably won't do jackshit to betray anyone like everyone expects him to
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>>157428490
He won't.

He will however, get completely ruined by Jiren in a single attack and job horribly to hype up how strong Jiren is supposed to be.

So yeah, have fun with that one.
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>>157428365
Yes.
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>>157428686
Nah, if anyone gets jobbed it'll be Gohan or Vegeta so Goku can have his moment of glory
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>>157428686
ayy lmao
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ToP MVP coming through
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>>157428811
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>>157428686
That's Vegeta and Gohan's roles though.
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>>157428589
>Because he punches holes in people?
I guess I could buy that, maybe. Still sounds random but whatever.
>>157428629
>they just turned it into a reference to some English commercial
If this is true, I'm really curious what even could have been the original quote to allow them to convert it to a reference to donuts.
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>>157425131
So pretty much confirms that Goku and Frieza will be the last members remaining.
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>>157428895
I've heard it might be a reference to a Dunkin Donuts ad from the 80s. Seems oddly specific to me
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>>157428951
It is, it is an ancient meme for old people.
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>>157423013
Finished Dragon Ball and just finished Dragon Ball Z.
Kai blast me in the ass that took a long time.
So all memes aside, do I start with GT first or Super?
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>>157428990
GT's shorter and already finished. If you want to watch it I'd suggest going with it first
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>>157428990
Don't waste your time with GT unless you already caught up on Super anime and manga.
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>>157428990
GT.
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>>157428976
Hit is the loremaster, keeper of the memes of old
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>>157428531
>>157428211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=petqFm94osQ
It's because he views fighting and killing as a job, like the Dunkin Donuts guy. But yeah, someone maybe took a little too many liberties with that translation. It's not something most kids would get, especially.
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>>157428990
You'll grow bored of GT quickly. Just watch Super.
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>>157429131
People talk about Super Goku being dumb, but unless there was a fight going on, GT Kid Goku seemed really detached from reality half the time. It felt like Pan and Trunks were there to lead him around by the nose.
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Is there ANYWAY Vegeta doesn't job in this tournament?
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>>157428990
Have you watched the movies?
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>>157428951
>>157428976
>>157429083
Ah, it all makes sense now. Though agreed about taking liberties with it, that is one ancient reference to catch, but I guess that'd fit right in with Hit.
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>>157429242
Depends whether Gohan took Piccolo's lessons to heart or not. If he didn't, Gohan's eating the L big time.
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>>157429242
No it wouldn't be Vegeta if he wasn't doing his job.
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>>157429242
[Raughs]
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>>157429242
If Goku fights Jiren and Frieza fights Berserk Kale then they need to leave Hit to him.
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>>157429242
>muh job
Goddamn, just because a character loses every now and then it doesn't make them a jobber. I'm pretty sure you motherfuckers have called every character in DB a jobber at some point.
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>>157429357
Frieza has to take a steaming shit on Frost. it NEEDS to happen.

>>157429382
Vegeta is the designated jobber though. If anyone eats dirt to shill the new villain, there's a very high chance it's going to be him since he's one of the tough guys.
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>>157429242
Nope lmao
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>>157427850
YOU ARE A SINNER
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Did someone rip the digital release of the Dragon Ball Full Color and Super manga yet?
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>>157429433
>Vegeta is the designated jobber though
Gohan never won a single fight by his own merit.
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Can someone explain Super Saiyan Blue to me? Didn't Goku absorb the God power into his original SSJ form, thus never needing to use SSJ2 or SSJ3 ever again?
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>>157429523
Yeah but Gohan is kind of weak. Him losing doesn't shill a villain so he isn't much of a jobber. He barely pushed Frieza when he returned.
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>>157428990
Both are shit. Go watch something else instead.
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Honest thoughts on DBZ Resurrection "F"?
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>>157429552
Goku's SS1-3 got proportionally stronger. Blue is a form beyond those, basically SS4.
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>>157429582
It was fun, not the best DBZ movie but obviously not the worst
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>>157429567
And Gohan was supposed to be at the same level as Goku when he was Mystic Gohan and couldn't defeat Buu, he couldn't even catch a fucking earring.
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>>157428990
Watch the Battle of Gods movie, followed by the Resurrection of F movie as both are canon. Then skip to episode 27 of Super, as the first 26 episodes are simply an extended recap of these movies and are boring, drawn out and with very poor quality animation.

Watch Super from episode 27 onwards. Don't bother with GT, as not only is it non-canon but it also takes place after the events of Super in the time line (though, since it's not canon and came before Super it contradicts the events of Super on numerous occasions). Also because GT is awful and really a massive waste of time.

So yeah, watch BoG, then RoF, then Super from episode 27 onward and give GT a miss unless you catch up to Super and get bored enough to start watching it. At that point you're on your own.
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>>157429647
>Then skip to episode 27
Don't you mean 28? 27 is Frieza's death
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>>157429552
Yes he did but it's been retconned so he can still go into those forms still. (This contradicts what Tori stated in an interview)
In the manga God Ki isn't accessible in base form so he can logically still become those forms. He never fought Beerus as a SSJ either, he fought him as SSG til the very end.
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>>157428365
Gregory was Toriyama's idea
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Gohan is so disappoiting. By the end of the Cell saga you expect him to become the next great warrior. 1 chapter later and it's clear Goku is still the protagonist. I think the publishing house was against this big change because Goku was n*1 seller of merchandise or some shit.
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>>157429242
Vegeta will have some great fights and showcase an amazing increase in power while fighting a bunch of powerful opponents. Then he will be knocked out of the ring by Jiren to show how strong Jiren is to make Goku's power more impressive when he beats him.

Does that count?
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>>157428990
DB GT is a spinoff made to milk the series because Akira Toriyama didn't want to be a slave. DB Super is an official continuation from Akira Toriyama himself between the defeat of Majin Buu and Goku meeting Uub
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>>157429716
I think the reason was the nips didn't wanted Gohan as the new main character.
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Who's better looking/handsome Frieza or Cell?
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>>157429669
Whoops, my bad. Yeah, just skip to 28.

It's been a while since then so naturally I kinda forgot exactly which episode the recaps end at.
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>>157429582
Pros:
>Humans are useful
>All the transformations were great
>Ginyu came back in the Anime version

Cons:
>Vegeta was robbed of revenge
>Goku jobbed to a laser
>Anime version had the worst quality Super has to offer
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Do the Super events replace the movies in terms of canon?
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>>157429749
You could tell Toriyama was trying really hard to shill him as the next protagonist, too. Guess he just gave up at some point.
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>>157428523
OH MY GOD, HE IS BARE!
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>>157429792
>>Anime version had the worst quality Super has to offer
Having just rewatched the arc, I don't feel like it's as bad as the worst that the U6 arc had to offer. 24/25 have shit choreography and stiff animation but 26 is off model as all hell.
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>>157429753
depends on the forms
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>>157429822
Depends what your opinion of canon is.
Toriyama didn't write the retellings so you could argue it's just filler.
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Koyama: In terms of the story side of things, for Dragon Ball, the amount of time until a chapter appearing in the serialization aired on TV was incredibly short. That’s because we would get to work on the script at the point where Toriyama-sensei had decided on the story, and started drawing the draft. I think that kind of immediacy was something that allowed the people watching to get into it easily.

Koyama: There are definitely parts where we caught up to the original work, and there was no way we would get ahead of it, so naturally, original material went in. In extreme cases, we’d even make the entire A-part (the first half of an episode) from a single panel of the manga. (laughs) However, I think the young writers at “Brother Noppo” really honed their skills with that. I’m extremely thankful for this work in the sense of it being a training ground, as well. To be honest, we’ve had questions come in about those original parts, asking where they are in the comics. In that way, I think the way the TV-original bits mixed well with the original comic is part of the appeal of the Dragon Ball anime.
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What was the last chapter of the manga?
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>>157425599
>Even SSJ2 had more creativity put into it.

I know you hate SSB but lets not pretend this is true. SSJ2 is just SSJ except SPIKIER and with blue lightning. It's even lazier for Goku and Vegeta, where Goku just gets different bangs and Vegeta actually gets no change at all.
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>>157429992
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/tankobon/vol-42/

Goku thinks it’s exciting to meet someone so strong, and Oob agrees. As the two zoom by, Goku tells Oob he’ll get even stronger, and Oob says, “Yes!!” Thinking that’s not excited enough, Goku tells him to yell, “Yeah–!!”, and Oob follows suit, as the two disappear off into the distance….

“The great adventure of Goku and his friends, concerning the Dragon Balls! I can only show it to you all up until here, the end… Even after this, there will probably be various troubles, but somehow they’ll surmount them, without a doubt… It’ll be all right, because they’ve got the Dragon Balls…!”
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>>157429582
Pretty disappointing
Frieza was a dumb fuck and felt underwhelming
Frieza's henchmen were completely pointless
Vegeta jobbed out of his final revenge
Goku defeated by a lasergun
Shitty deus ex machina ending hurr lets just reverse time!!
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Leave Jiren to me dad.
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>>157429034
>>157429037
>>157429067
>>157429131
>>157429575
GT +2
Super +2
Hmm...
>>157429267
The only movies I remember ever seeing were Bojack and the 3 Broly movies. Forgot what second coming was but I still have the dvd.
>>157429647
>>157429739
I already saw Resurrection of F and Battle of the Gods when it came out quite some time ago. Should I really just skip the first 28 episodes though? That seems like a -lot-.

Which has more of my waifu mai, Super or GT?
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>>157429995
>It's even lazier for Goku and Vegeta

Don't forget adult Gohan.
People still argue whether or not he was ssj2 against Dabura.
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>>157429834
Well, the original idea was for the series to end after the Cell saga, with Gohan replacing Goku as the hero of earth.

Thing is that after Toriyama eventually decided to make the Buu saga he tried to make Gohan the 'new hero' but eventually decided that being Goku 2.0 wasn't right for Gohan as a character. In the end he decided that he wanted Gohan to be his own character.

You can almost tangibly see the conflict in Toriyama while he was writing the Buu saga, the whole thing seems to lead up to Gohan becoming the hero at the end, surpassing everyone and defeating Buu. However you can pretty much see the point that Toriyama decides that this doesn't fit for Gohan when they don't bother to include him in the final fight against Kid Buu (Gohan at that point should have been stronger than Kid Buu, so getting him to the Kai planet would have made sense, in fact since he was killed when Kid Buu destroyed the Earth they literally could have just gone and gotten him using the Supreme Kai's instantaneous movement ability and brought him to the Kai planet to fight Kid Buu). Gohan's omission from this final battle is pretty telling about the fact that at that point Toriyama had decided he wasn't the next Goku.
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>>157430078
As someone who watched GT as a kid so i should be biased and is now watching Super as a young adult i can say that Super is miles ahead of that piece of garbage especially if you ski RoF and just watch the movie.
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>>157430058
Okay, son. Leave Videl to me.
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>>157430078
Mai features in Super for an entire arc as a major character. Mai barely shows up for a single episode in GT.

Also yes, skipping to episode 28 is definitely the right thing to do if you already saw the movies, trust me, you will be completely bored re-watching the same plot lines simply drawn out over 27 episodes with basically nothing new added to them.
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>>157430078
I'd advise not skipping the first two arcs. They do retread material from the movies but there are differences that carry through the rest of the series. Plus, 16-19 show Goku and Vegeta training with Whis.
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>>157428632
What if there is a betrayal in the team, but not from Frieza? Like Vegeta or someone else in the team but Goku ringing out Frieza because he's a menace. Even if it's for well meant reasons, it would still count as a betrayal to the team wouldn't it? They'd be down one man against 7 other teams.
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>>157430215
Resurrection F - Super cut
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>>157430190
Canonically uncuckable, should just stick to the jobbing memes kouhai.
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>Goku will defeat Merged Zamasu
Yeah no. I prefer the anime asspull.
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So, with this zenkai, even though Vegeta was stronger than everyone here, even though he was at freezer's 1st form level, he act like he's still number 2

He act like he was still weaker than Goku, Why?
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>>157430078
Watch episodes 16-18, then this >>157430280 then get right on episode 28 and on.
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>>157430251
I'd like to think Vegeta would have enough brains not to do that.
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>>157430321
No he's going to stall him until the fusion runs out. Not defeat.
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>>157430321
I don't
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>Frieza taking time to personally be a dick to Bulma
>Frieza complaining about Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan having a long and pretentious name
That's why I have high hopes for him in the tournament. He's such a petty dick.

>>157430280
I had no idea this existed. Thanks anon!
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>>157430303
Whatever you say.
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>>157429753

I like Frieza. It's more iconic and memorable. Cell has 3 complex transformations that look very exotic and insect-like. Frieza is more streamlined. Plus, he fought the most memorable fight.
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>>157430303
I still can't believe there was actually an episode where someone tried to cuck Gohan by tricking Videl into thinking Gohan cucked her with some young Idol.

Seriously, it's like memes are real.
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>>157425131
is this official?
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>>157430428
Isn't Goku vs. Frieza the longest single fight in all of television?
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>>157429582
It was dumb fun.
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>>157429753
Final Form Frieza and Perfect Cell are pretty fuccable desu
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>>157430042
Now that you mention it, was ever shown in the manga that Whiss can reverse time?
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>>157430325
Toriyama love asspull
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>>157428632
>>157430251
I almost like the idea of using him for light comical relief in this upcoming event. Everyone just needs him for his power and knows he hates them all and doesn't want to be there, so they all suspect he'll do something to fuck him up, but he never does.
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>>157425250
Well, the rules never said that. Plus when you think about it, bringing dead people kinda makes sense. After all, this is a fight for the survival of your whole universe, including the afterlife of that universe. So it actually makes perfect sense that bringing back your greatest warriors of the past to be a part of your team would be allowed.
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>>157430494
He hasn't used it but he did explain it.
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>>157430321
Merged Zamasu still has full stamina with his immortality and Goku's body is crumbling just trying to keep up.
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>>157429753
If we're only counting final forms, it's hard for me to pick. I'd put Frieza above by just a tiny bit, but basically this >>157430493
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>>157423916
>>157424323
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>>157430493
This. I'd love to get plugged up by both of their cocks as I ride my way to pleasure and inevitable death.
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>>157430630

Your body would explode after the first thrust.
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>>157430455
But they are real anon, just like the skeleton inside you right now.
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>>157430513
>Hey Beerus... I don't trust Frieza
>Why, what's he doing?
>N-nothing right now.
>He's just sitting there on the ben- >MENACINGLY
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>>157430657
>implying they wouldn't hold back.
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>>157430513
That's precisely how I can see it going down. A bomb that never explodes situation. Everyone would assume Frieza would try something but he just never does anything. Maybe because of Beerus or maybe he literally just doesn't give a shit anymore.
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>>157430630
>Frieza
>cock
You're gonna get double tailed instead.
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>>157430673
>Frieza's just sitting down and staring on at the fighters while his teammates are all nervous and on edge on what he's planning to do
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>>157428523
Saved
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>>157430711
Even better.
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>>157430456
anyone?
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>>157430456
>>157430834
No, it's fake.
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When will the new chapter get translated anyway?
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>>157430873
In 5 minutes.
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>>157430930
YOU GAVE ME THE WRONG DOSE, DOC!
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>>157430513
Nah, I kind of see it going down like everyone's cautious around him and he tries to make it like his time in hell changed him a little, the only reason he agreed to fight was to be rid of it for a moment.
After all if they lost he, and hell would cease to exist so who really cares, he's just enjoying stretching his legs again.
Everyone starts suspecting that he's maybe changed after all until he murders the fuck out of his opponent.
Zebras can't change their stripes, etc.
He starts going on through the tournament that the only way they can win is to have his killer instinct.
Gets his shit pushed in.
"serves him right"
Sees Goku and/or Vegeta beat who he lost to and the "power of friendship" shit i effect.
May or may not appear to have an actual change of heart and then may or may not just nuke their opponent himself and DQ them as revenge for such a hoaky antic.

Just remember he's already dead and is in the worst possible situation. Non-existence would be a blessing to him and I don't think he gives even a quarter of a fuck about Beerus, especially now.
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>>157431076
Gene Simmons? Pokemon?
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>>157431076
>>157431128
Is that Daria?
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>>157431128
>Videl stronger than Obelix
This shit is wrong.
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>>157430078
GT 's only redeeming features are near the end of it, the rest is filler. I actually liked the idea of the dragonballs piling up with negative enegry and creating evil dragons but you have to keep in mind it isn't canon.
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>>157431189
>watch a clip of GT on Youtube
>feels like a DB sitcom with Vegeta as a protagonist
Any more moments like this? I'm a sucker for this kind of laid back filler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etnt88WwbZk
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cellfags btfo
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>>157427050
i see a fellow dokkan battle player.
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>each fight is pretty much the same with very few variances

I don't understand why they don't just load up Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 and pick the characters and take ideas from the fight. Each character has their own moveset, it's fast paced and definitely feels like dragon ball fights
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>>157431293
Yes the whole series is like this
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>>157431386
What's wrong? You don't like DADADADADADADADADADADADADA
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>>157426532
>ice mist
>Goku shatters into many pieces, and slowly disintegrates into gas, which freezes down anything with range
>regeneration
>Goku can regenerate from all attacks, but does not get stronger, as he is already as strong as he can be
Why is this fanfiction shit so cringe?
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>>157431465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdzOK6s5Zc
>you will never get fightsmlike this
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13002971
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>>157431499
Because that's only the beginning, you need to go deeper
ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/special:random
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>>157431465
I still miss the old animation so much more than this garbage.

And I know the old animation had low points too (like the QUALITY during the Cell v Goku fight) but the average was always so much better than the newer animation style. A lot less repeat frames too.
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>>157432153
>QUALITY
nani?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUSclX_ido
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>>157423309
Autism
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>>157432153
Also Toriyama styled art looks so much better hand drawn instead of digital. Digital Toriyama looks awful most of the time.
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>>157432236
>tfw that's been better animated, choreographed and is way more intense/interesting than any fight we've gotten in Super so far

Here's hoping the tournament fight can draw out some of these kind of creative fight scenes, where it's not just kick/punch/ki blast repeat until goku kamehameha's something.

Anyways, I was referring more to some of the more quality animaton in the first(?) episode of the fight between Goku and Cell. The quality drop from the previous episode was fucking immense; You can notice the quality drop even in TFS abridged episode, and they have the liberty of editing out shitty looking scenes.
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>>157431728
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdzOK6s5Zc
Jesus christ, these shills are spewing so much shit out of their mouths. Xenoverse combat is awful.
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>>157432392
There's quality drops like that between episodes throughout DBZ, but I do think that the Cell fight was easily the lowest point for it's animation.
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>>157425267
i can appreciate this, well done.
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>>157432392

Just me or was the Cell saga the lowest point of animation for DBZ?
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>>157432629
>Just me or was the Cell saga the lowest point of animation for DBZ?
>>157432427
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So what would the scouter say about his power level now? Is there even a number anymore?
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Chapter 24 is officially out in English:


https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/digital/dragon-ball-super-chapter-24/5794?read=1
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>>157432681
>not available in your location

Fucking kill me
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>>157432793
get fucked paco
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CONTENT NOT AVAILABLE :C
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>>157432842
I'm french.

Why insulting people like that anyway?
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>>157432681
FPSSB came out of nowhere.
>All those people saying Goku can beat Zamasu when he can barely hold the form
>No mention of mafuba
Damn shitposters.
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>>157431002
Open wide

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1933449#search=badendxxx
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>>157432949
>mafuba now can be used to conveniently seal your ki.
Don't even pretend this isn't a blatant asspull
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>>157432654
God Ki wouldn't show up on the scouter. SSJ2 would probably be in the billions, considering that it's twice as strong as the base SSJ form at Goku's power level was 150,000,000 all the way back in Namek.
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>>157433006
Yeah it's a last minute buff but Merged Zamasu was so broken that asspulls are required to stop him. At least it makes sense, it's not like mafuba has a limit on what it can seal.
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>>157433110
Except the limit where the act of sealing drains all most if not all of your stamina, and the limit that you need a seal to have it work properly.

Add to the fact this function of mafuba wasn't intrudced until this very chapter, this is a textbook aspull and given to Goku of all characters so he gets the glory again.
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>>157432793
>>157432880
Just use a proxy/VPN.
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>>157432949
Who'd win in a fight, Full Power SSJB Goku or Full Power SSJ4 Broly?
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>>157433182
SSJB>SSJ4 especially at full power.
And Broly is a meathead with no strategy.
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By3AAjuvowlYYk5naGZaUVhDdG8

Chapter Mirror Link, YW
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>>157432949
FPSSB was hinted at when Vegeta fought against Hit and he couldn't exert any of SSJB's strength, and it was kinda hinted with Vegeta vs Black a few chapters ago when he constantly switched back and forth.

This is just Goku's way of doing it, but it's imperfect still.
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Who's your favorite DBH original character?

>Beat
>Erito
>Basaku
>Note
>Viola
>Forte
>Kabra
>Yoshito
>Salaga
>Froze
>Rezok
>Freezer Berserker
>Tsumuri
>Namekian Elite
>Kagyu
>Nimu
>Nico
>Genome
>Zen
>Fen
>Wairu
>Chamel
>Demon Elite
>Demon Berserker
>Mechikabura
>Salsa
>Putine
>Gravy
>Demon Realm Soldiers
>Akina
>Amepai
>Zaripai
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>>157433182
In the LSSJ form, Broly has technically infinite amount of energy. He'll just keep increasing in power unless you hit him hard enough to make him stay down for good, kinda like the Hulk.

But if you consider how massive the gap between Beerus and SSJ3 was, compared to how big the gap between SSJ3 and SSJ4 was, I don't think it'd be a big enough boost for Broly to not get KO'd instantly by SSB Goku.
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>FPSSGSS isn't equal to Zamasu
>this chapter comes out and the characters say that it's equal to him
Is this the most asspull power up on par with SSJ Ikari?
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>>157433278
It's not imperfect. Vegeta said Goku completed SSB.
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>>157433278
It was never hinted, never.

Stop lying.

It's an asspull, no build up or anything

Goku is a genius again

Great

The beginning of the arc was great but it's clearly shit since chapter 23
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So in the end it works the same as SSB kaioken with the whole fucking up your body angle
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>>157433358
It's basically SSJIkari all over again.

This time, it's just goku being the best as always.

Merged zamasu shouldn't be a weakass when he one shotted a no tired SSB vegeta
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>>157433425
Yep don't know why he didn't just introduce it.
Also how will the weakness make sense with Frieza arc where they won because they had more stamina than Golden Frieza?
And how is he going to be introduced in this arc?
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>>157423828
Lord Frieza!
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>>157433323
Nigga that's DBM headcanon bullshit. Broly's "increasing Ki" in the movie wasn't an increase in power, it was overflowing Ki. Ki regen in other words. It got to the point where Broly had to expel some from his body just to manage it all.
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>>157433278
>FPSSB was hinted at when Vegeta fought against Hit and he couldn't exert any of SSJB's strength,

Wrong. you're willfully misinterpreting the scene and pretending this reatroactively affects the context of either scene.

The only thing we are shown in the hit fight the fact SSB is a draining transformation and that keeping its usage limited is the only way to use it properly

And switching back and forth has nothing to do with what Goku is doing now, if what you say was true Vegeta would've been able to hold off F.Zamasu by doing that yet he gets fodderized instantly.
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>>157433491
His power is unlimited, not infinite.
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>>157433491
That's exactly what it was though, Broly's Ki is forever increasing, beyond what his body is able to handle, so he has to release it. He has a "cap" to the power his body can use, but not what he can generate.

And in SSJ4 I'd bet that cap would be massively increased.
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>>157433491
>Nigga that's DBM headcanon bullshit
bout as canon as Broly is anyways tbf

guess we'll find out what the "canon" parameters of LSSJ is once Kale fights.
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How long until Frieza brainlets will be btfo like Kale=Caulifla fags?
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>>157427414
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>>157433390
>>157433403
>>157433503

Thanks for the clarifications, must be misremembering things. It's been a while since all these chapters are monthly and been co-watching with the anime.
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>>157432681
>>157433249
Zamasu's portal punches are pretty cool. Don't like Goku being the best again, but I wonder if his new "transformation" in the anime will be similar to what he did here.
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>>157433162
False. Those are dragonball limits, Goku is strong enough that the mafuba toll becomes virtually nothing
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>>157433249
>If you weren't a suspreme kaioshin shin, you wouldn't be able to use the time ring

WHAT?

But, zamasu isn't a supreme kaioshin but can use the time ring?
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>>157429749
Fuck the Nips where's mah boy Gohan
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What is going on here?
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>>157434354
Beerus is having an argument with Goku because Goku is about to do something stupid
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>>157434354
Cat demanding his owner give him more snacks.
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So Merged Zamasu is only equal to 100% SSB, that explains why even Base Vegeto could fuck him over.
Of course Zamasu could also be exhausted. Still though I think Perfected Rose Black is going to be the final enemy.
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>>157434397
Getting rekt by Vegito isn't exactly that much of a power standard considering how ridiculously OP Vegito is.
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>100% SSB is equal to Merged Zamasu
>Base Vegeto is able to hurt Merged Zamasu
>Vegeto doesn't instantly go 100% SSB to one shot Zamasu
???
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>>157433307
Well, I don't know anything about them storywise (some Digimon/Yu-Gi-Oh style crap applied to Dragon Ball, right?) and I can't even go by most fuckable because they all look like little kids. None of them, I guess?
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>>157434505
Putine's not a kid
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>>157434489
>Fusions are retards

breaking news
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>>157434489
Remember that Vegito isn't just Vegeta + Goku, he's pretty much an entirely separate character to them both. He doesn't have the training to reach perfect SSB is my bet.

Besides, Vegito could've wiped the floor clean with Zamasu even at just normal SSB. No need to attempt a risky technique that you haven't tried before.
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>VIZ translations
>Vegeta saying Goku
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>>157434606
Yeah but why Vegeto needed SSB goku SSB was more than enough?

It's like Vegeto using SS3 against kid buu when SS3 goku was enough
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>>157434564
Saved.
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>>157434564
>"Supreme Kai, is this necessary?"
>"YES, NOW PLEASE STAND STILL!"
>"...What exactly are you doing?"
>"MY BEST."
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>>157434630
kek

there was also an error where they forgot the n in then leading to
>the heal Kakarot
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>>157434630
>VIZ translations are garbage

Not exactly breaking news anon
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>>157434703
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>>157434687
kek
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>>157434630

>Vegata
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>>157434703
>>157434725
>a single two letter word and VIZ manage to change the entire tone and delivery of the line and completely missing the humour of the original

downright impressive to fuck up so bad
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What is happening to Toyotaro?

Since chapter 23, the art, the writing has dropped

>Sudden trunks convenient healing
>Convenient FSSB from goku which could have ended the arc from the start

Fucking hell
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>>157434772
welcome to dragonball super, enjoy your stay
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>>157434703
>Oh.
What the hell are they doing
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>>157434744
I choose Vegata.

We don't know shit from this character, but if he was mentionned, he must be a good deal.
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>>157434772
As asspully as it seems, this technique also fucks up the body as well. This is manga's answer to SSB Kaioken
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>>157434744
>Vageta
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They never said Goku's sealing the blue energy with the mafuba in the chapter

Was it headcanon again?
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>>157434792
I mean, FSSB, out of nowhere, Trunks's healing being convenient (CONVENIENT DISCUSSION BETWEEN GOWASU AND SHIN)

He has a fucking month to write something good.

>>157434895
We were aware of the kaioken, a well know technique.

Also, it was coherent to keep this to the strongest enemy in a tournament.

But here, we talk about guys who destroyed trunks's future, vegeta SSB and goku still keep this to himself?

And job to zamasu?
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>>157434959
No shit.
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>>157434959
No, it was shitposting.
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>>157434962
Goku is the only one allowed to have asspull in the manga.

But he can't show it in the very beginning because the canon fodder named Vegata need to jobs a lot to make Goku more relevant
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>>157434762
He just said "Is that so?" or "Oh" to the dude's rambling.

desu "ok" was less accurate and it doesn't offer anything to their conversation. It's funny as fuck, but in context it doesn't make sense for him to say "ok"

"Oh" is an actual accurate representation.

Both doesn't make the manga unreadable, though. I'm just happy that ViZ is beating MangaStream twice in two months now.
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>>157423013
No,
This is perfection
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>>157435086
DELETE THIS
Toyo's manga is perfect power scaling, this type of comic is only allowed to show Toei's bullshit !!!!
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>>157435086
Fake news.
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>>157435086
This is objectively false. What Vegeta did was remove the transformation weakness at the start of Blue, he didn't make it stronger but rather made it last longer
What Goku did was make himself go at 100%, but has harmful effects on the body
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>>157435086
Never though this type of comic would be needed for the manga.

I just can't stand Toyo's shit at this point, trunks being a weakass annoyed me, i can understand his wish to keep consistency.

But then, he use FSSB out of nowhere.

Fuck this shit

>>157435153
No fake news
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>>157435181
>What Goku did was make himself go at 100%, but has harmful effects on the body

Read the chapter you dumbfuck.

Goku can fight at 100% MUCH LONGER, prove that he did get strongee
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>>157435094
>It's funny as fuck, but in context it doesn't make sense for him to say "ok"
It makes absolute sense for Saitama to say "Ok" to that, that's kind of the point.
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Why didn't Goku go 100% SSB at the start of the arc when Black didn't have SSR?
>inb4 waku waku
Then why didn't he go 100% SSB when Black went Rose?
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>>157434290
Yeah, this is the biggest plothole in the arc. Gowasu continually states that you HAVE to be Kaioshin to use the Potara...but uhhh both Zamasus used them effortlessly.
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>>157435181
No, they can use their power at 100% since champa's arc.

Goku here can but much much longer with FSSB, he was stronger than merged zamasu since the start

Even vegeta stated that goku did it in a better way than him
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>>157433162
>Add to the fact this function of mafuba wasn't intrudced until this very chapter,
Mafuba isn't mentioned at all you retarded shitposter.
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>>157435276
Mortals can use potara though.

But the time ring, if zamasu isn't a supreme kai, then how can he use the time ring?

How can black use the time ring?

Is toyo retarded in this chapter?
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>>157435153
>Fake news

Oh right, he's immortal
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Toyotaro is really set on making god ki massively powerful. Manga SSB is definitely the strongest transformation in the series.
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>>157435271
Because Goku is retarded

>Yeah Vegeta will get obviously fucked
>Yeah I should fight the weaker one and job to him
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>>157435359
Yeah, so that Rose Goku Black could copy that and then fuck them over.
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>>157434489
>>Vegeto doesn't instantly go 100% SSB to one shot Zamasu
Because it's risky, didn't you read the chapter? Goku clearly isn't ready for it yet and his body is breaking down on him

Imagine if Vegetto went FPSSB, then fucked it up and crippled himself.
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>>157435341
That's more like it.
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>>157427678
Literally fighting gods.
the characters in this show may do big things but no one claims the'yre perfect.
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>>157435341
I prefer the anime's weakness now.

The unstable soul was retarded but explained why merged zamasu was weakened with the immortal/mortal shit incompatible which made him unstable as it was stated by gowasu and vegeto.

Here, it's just the time limit, so goku need to be as powerful as him to hurt him.

Goku could have ended the arc from the start

Fuck

>>157435392
>Yeah, so that Rose Goku Black could copy that and then fuck them over.

How would he copy that if goku end him?
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>>157435392
Do you have excuse for every toyo's mistake?
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>>157435392
I guess using FSSB is better when all the ningens are killed right?

Goku could have prevented their deaths.
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>>157434556
>Putine
Pfthahahahahahaha!

"I woold like some pancakes with some maple syrup, eh. Then we can play some hockey"
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>>157434664
>Yeah but why Vegeto needed SSB goku SSB was more than enough?
He needed SSB to override his regen.
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>>157435663
>Need beerus tier fighter to kill him
>goku SSB is enough to fight him
>?????

Goku should have used his FSSB from the start then.

Thanks to him, humanity died, trunks will lose his universe, his timeline
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