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Present Trunk's end game.
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>>157405051
>NO MORE WARMING UP THIS IS THE REAL DEAL!
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>>157405051
He prefers older women.
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Post your favorite filler scenes

https://youtu.be/5RN2WMpHTok
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It's simple guys, for those who love and take DB seriously (not a bad thing though), the manga is for them

While those who love DB without taking it too seriously, the anime is for them

I love the anime because DB was never meant to be taken seriously to me, it started as a gag manga

And you can love the manga thanks to his consistency.

This stupid war of shitposting has no meaning
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>>157405051
Hot.
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>Tournament of Power
>Battle royale
>80 characters
>80+ new cards for Dragon Ball Heroes

Bandai wants all that money
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>>157405147
Anyone got that one picture of Future Mai surrounded by hentai dialogue?
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>>157405209
Big green dub is best dub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdWxaWT3hw
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>>157405330
Here anon
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>>157405380
Thanks.
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>>157405282
>Just DBH
>Not also dokkan battle

I've spent so much money on this game
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>>157405412
Someone has the screencap where a retard claimed that SSJ4>SSG with dokkan battle?
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>>157405282
>>80 characters
Too bad not all or the majority of them will be on Xenoverse 3
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>>157405380
Source...? Anyone...?
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>>157405246
Stop being retarded it's not that Black and White.
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I want to have loving sex with Kale for the sole purpose of procreation
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>>157405282
>>157405412
Well, some of them, like Jiren, Toppo, Caulifla and Kale, will also get into the inevitable Xenoverse 3
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>>157405147
>>157405152
TORANKUSU
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>>157405282
This tournament is gonna be a goldmine for future games.
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>>157405447
This one?
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>>157405345
That's not the Big Green dub, that's the Speedy dub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlc8Ko38ECA
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>>157405461
I'm not retarded, you know i'm telling the truth.

My logic applie to DB Fanbase
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>>157405537
Pretty sure that's heroes, but probably what he wants.

Also give me the new PHY Gohan Toei.
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>>157405470
the yellowish green hair on female super saiyans does things to me dick
is that normal?
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>>157405448
>Xenoverse
Fuck off I want a Budokai/Tenkaichi 4
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>>157405537
Thanks a lot
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>>157405591
>There actually were people who thought Kale and Caulifla were the same person
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>>157405470
If he dies to that how would he explain it to his king Yama?
Could Cabba have his body sexually crushed over and over again for repeated zenkai boost? Asking for a friend.
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>>157405537
Fixed.
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>>157405152
only because he hasn't discovered the appeal of lolis
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>>157405595
>Budokai/Tenkaichi
But I want Burst Limit 2/Raging Blast 3
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I'm actually afraid they will try to give Frieza a waifu in this saga. I love him too much for him to get ruined like this. Please tell me I'm being paranoid.
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>>157405051
WE'RE REACHING NEW LEVELS OF MAXMIMUM COMFY NEVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE.
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>>157405591
I have a feeling green hair is only gonna be a Kale thing.

But yes, it does things to my dick too, anon
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>>157405718
I prefer the anime but I must admit that this cover is comfy as fuck
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>>157405718
Here is a higher res version anon
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>>157405630
i thought so too and also that frieza is actually joining and that anon just Denied all of it about it
i'm glad he got BTFO
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>>157405703
Man I miss Raging Blast graphics...
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I have feeling Kale's form/power is connected to her emotional state/rage. The angrier she gets the bigger/stronger she becomes type of thing, which probably has something to do with her different colored Ki.

I dunno.
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>>157405630
How people can be that stupid is beyond me.
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>>157405630
That Brolynafag sure vanished, didn't he?
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>>157405811
A frenchbros try to make raging blast 3 a thing since years.

Bandai namco listened him to make.......xenoverse
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>>157405891
Wait what

You mean that DA account with fan Raging Blast 3? Are you kidding me?
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>>157405782
Thanks
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>>157405940
>Are you kidding me?

No it's true, bandai namco is aware about him, they know about the raging blast 3 project, but rather making that happen, they decided to make xenoverse.
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>>157405940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmYXUX5-Ak

His last video seems to be hopeful

Made a month ago
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>>157405718
>>157405782
I can't wait to see the back cover and the extra pics.
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>>157405051
But OP that's pedophilia
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>>157406251
Your point?
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>>157405987
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>>157405051
Can we make a new term for people that like the manga as well as the improved anime since Shueisha stepped in with the creation of the Dragon Ball Room?
How about Shueishabros?
Jump-lads?
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Rate my team
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>>157406351
How about Shueisha Roomies? Or DB Roomies?
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>>157406351
I think those stupid terms should be banned from here if anything.
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>>157406320
It's wrong
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>>157406358
Inferior to mine.
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>>157406406
Sounds pretty good my fellow Roomie. Although Jump-lads is starting to grow on me.
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>>157406433
Says who?
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>>157406346
TORANKUSU
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>>157406437
Not having SSB Broly, c'mon.
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>>157406566
Don't you mean Broly God?
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>>157406538
MAI
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>>157405872
>Literally the only differences are the hair and clothes
How did this guy not realize Toriyama can only draw six faces?
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>>157406351
I'll join you and I'll force Jump-lads now
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>>157406626
Not going further beyond. It's like you don't think his power can go even more maximum.
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>>157406626
>Legendary Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Golden Oozaru
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>>157406437
When is someone gonna recreate this in Ultimate Mission?
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>>157406665
Thank you my fellow Jump-lad, we're making history here.
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>>157406697
>Implying Broly God isn't his version of SSGSS.

He needs to go monkey to go further beyond after that, anon
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>>157406351
Fuck off.

I like the anime since champa's arc, I enjoyed his SOL parts from the start
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>>157406836
Champa arc was shit and I'm glad the Series Director got fired.
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>>157406860
Well said Shueishabro
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>>157406862
Sucks to realize hope was misplaced in both the anime and the manga doesn't it?
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>>157406860
Piccolo Vs frost was fine.

Vegeta vs Cabba was fine.

Goku vs Hit was fine.
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>>157405246 #
Previously:
> SSB Vegeta gets beaten by SS Black
> After RoSaT training, Vegeta can TOY with SSRose Black as SSG
> Fusion Zamasu toys with Goku/Vegeta

Now:
> Vegeta should be stronger than Goku due to RoSaT training
> Goku had "Mastered" SSB the whole time, before they even fused into Vegetto. Didn't use it before because...?
> Goku is inexplicably stronger than Vegeta
> SSB Goku is on par with Fusion Zamasu
> Trunks has healing because of Kaioshin training out of nowhere. Shouldn't Gohan have this also?

I thought the manga was the "less exciting, but more sensible" version of DBS
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>>157406930
Your standards must be pretty fucking low.
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>>157406862
>> SSB Vegeta gets beaten by SS Black
It was shit I agree

>> After RoSaT training, Vegeta can TOY with SSRose Black as SSG
It was the switch anon

>> Fusion Zamasu toys with Goku/Vegeta
And?
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>>157407028
>Fusion Zamasu toys with Goku/Vegeta
>And?

And now Goku can be on par with Fusion Zamasu by himself
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>>157407021
Fuck off, seeing piccolo being relevant was fine.

Seeing Vegeta teaching something was fine

Goku vs Hit was fun

Fuck off
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>>157407021
An anime isn't only just animation.
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>>157407076
Fusion Zamasu isn't as strong as his anime counterpart.

But like the anime, he can be weakened by techniques
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>>157407082
I'm talking animations ya dummy, all those plot elements happened in both continuities and have nothing but to do with the discussion at hand.
Midget five head Vegeta and the horrendous Frost animations will forever haunt me so you can fuck off with your low standards thanks.
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>>157407082
>goku vs hit fun
>didn't say fine
at least a toeishill like you realises how stupid it was
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>>157407119
Trust me you don't want to start on the other issues.
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>>157405412
ive put so many hours in to this game. not a lot of cash but still a fair bit. do you play japan server or global?
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>>157407176
Music was good. Characters were good. Story was great even.
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>>157407146
Piccolo was shit in the manga, he didn't tried to win

I agree for the part with Vegeta

Except for Goku vs Hit, Hit being OP in the anime was fun, in the manga, he's pretty generic

Anyway, I prefer some things from the anime but you prefer some things from the manga, it's fine, not all of us has the same taste

>>157407150
Fucking kill yourself you shitposter
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>>157407206
Both
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Have Toeishills finally admitted defeat after this awesome chapter yet lads?
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>>157406106
Oh my god...
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>>157407217
Piccolo did try to win, he just simply knew he was not in the same league as final form Frost.
The poorly animated scene of spamming shadow clones and charging a Makankosappo almost put me to sleep.
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>>157407253
ah, double the suffering i see. same here. rank 241 on global and 210 on japan.
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>>157406811
>Implying Broly God is his version of SSGSS.
Why it's not SSGSS Broly, then? They still use "SSGSS" in games and that shit
Or just "Super Saiyan Green"
Idk but there's no even a "super" in the name
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>>157406351
>>157406862
>>157407021
>>157407076
>>157407146
>>157407150
>>157407265
Samefags KYS

>>157407296
No, his goal was to make frost drop his stamina, to make Vegeta's fight more easy
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>>157406106
That Spirit Bomb, my god!
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>>157406938
>having a headcanon
>manga proves you are wrong
>therefore, manga is wrong

>also "Kaioshin training out of nowhere" which was mentioned 8 chapters ago
Die
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>>157407138
>Fusion Zamasu isn't as strong as his anime counterpart

I know that, but earlier he was already MUCH stronger than both Goku and Vegeta.

Now Goku by himself can deal with him? Without RoSaT training?
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>>157407442
> "shit I have no argument! Better call it a headcanon!"

All those are actual points in the manga retard
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>>157407076
>And now Goku can be on par with Fusion Zamasu by himself
And...? Goku was weakened after use Mafuba and SSB twice when he fought merged Zamasu the first time, now he's full power.

SSR Black < SSG-SSB Vegeta < Merged Zamasu = SSB Goku
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>>157407449
His body is crumbling so I don't know how much longer he can keep it up.
Immortality is looking pretty convenient right about now.
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>>157407312
>>157407427
You showed scenes with somes cool moves actually, thanks

>>157407449
Like in the anime, Merged zamasu was weakened by Vegeto
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>>157407312
>>157407359
>>157407427
>>157407483
See >>157407119
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>>157407506
I like the manga but STFU.

Your powerscaling is retarded as fuck.

Merged Zamasu was just weakened by Vegeto

End yourself
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>>157407511

The only thing that got weakened was Merged Zamasus mental state(like in the manga).
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So guys, I think I've figured out what Gokus new form is going to be. R8 my headcannon /a/.

So super saiyan blue is god ki mixed with super saiyan right? All Goku is going to do is realize that the super saiyan aspect is putting additional strain on his body and stop using it. So it's going to be some kind of god ki kaio ken. Maybe a perfected "Saiyan beyond god" combined with kaioken.

Bonus points if Goku gets the idea after seeing Jiren do something similar.

Double double bonus points when Gohan sees him do it, realizes he will never surpass his father and goes back to being an irrelevant jobber.
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>>157407548
>The only thing that got weakened was Merged Zamasus mental state(like in the manga).

No, it was stated that the final kamehameha was fucking powerful, zamasu was killed after that.

Also, in the manga, Merged Zamasu seems to be tired after fighting Vegeto, which is normal
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>>157407591
>Someone who doesn't bitch about both version

I wish more people were like you anon
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>>157407481
>my headcanon is an actual point
OK sweety, prove it, then. Prove that Vegeta defeated Black just as SSG when it's stated that he was using the switch between SSG and SSB (so SSB power but SSG efficiency), prove that Vegeta was stronger than Goku after his switch training, prove that Goku mastered SSB before this last chapter and prove that Goku being stronger than Vegeta is inexplicable. I'll wait.
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>>157406938
> SSB Vegeta gets beaten by SS Black
SSB stamina issues, as explained in the previous arc.
> After RoSaT training, Vegeta can TOY with SSRose Black as SSG
Vegeta trained to overcome those stamina issues, which Black is now being affected by having stayed in his SSGSS form.

> Vegeta should be stronger than Goku due to RoSaT training
Vegeta didn't train to get stronger, but to overcome SSB's stamina issues by switching from SSG to SSB and back.
> Goku had "Mastered" SSB the whole time, before they even fused into Vegetto. Didn't use it before because...?
Did he? I'm still waiting for the chapter to come out on Viz today, but I'm not sure he always had it. At the very least it seems difficult and he has trouble keeping his energy in after a punch. We'll see.
> Goku is inexplicably stronger than Vegeta
It seems mastering SSB to keep the energy in actually makes the user more powerful, as opposed to switching between SSG/SSB, which just prevents stamina wasting.
> SSB Goku is on par with Fusion Zamasu
This makes more sense in the manga than in the anime, since future Zamasu was weaker than Trunks, who was just a really powerful SS2. This would make the gap in power between him and Black practically a canyon, with his main contributions to the fusion being immortality, magic, and seemingly ease of control from fusing two of the same mind. Black's power combined with Future Zamasu's is not as much as it seemed in the manga, as opposed to the anime where it was the fusion of two SSB level fighters. It's plausible that Goku can surpass him this time.
> Trunks has healing because of Kaioshin training out of nowhere. Shouldn't Gohan have this also?
From what I hear it's a different ritual than what Gohan went through? Kibito Kai taught it to Trunks last I heard, while Gohan sat with Old Kai.

Some of the manga is a bit ass-pullish, but not as much as you make it out to be I think. And not as much as them being able to fend off Merged Zamasu in the anime.
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>>157407543
>merged Zamasu is weakened
Yeah no
He's totally fine in this chapter, he already regenerated his injuries.
Also you are retarded. If Zamasu is so weak then his fusion with Black would be just slightly stronger than Black alone, not a big deal if Goku was stronger than Black since the beginning, and Goku power compared to Black was never stated in the manga.
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When is Viz going to release the chapter?
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>>157407543
>Merged Zamasu was just weakened by Vegeto
I like the manga but this is retarded.
See: >>157407742
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SHUEISHA BROS
JUMP LADS
DB ROOMIES
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>>157407449
He was stronger than Vegeta and a Goku weakened by mafuba and SSB cooldown, not stronger than full power Goku.
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>>157407816
Later today, hopefully.
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Anime Merged Zamasu was just as weak as Manga Merged Zamasu. Until he got a bullshit powerup from the "Light of Justice"

What the fuck is a Light of Justice? Where did it come from? How did it power him up?
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>>157407802
>He's totally fine in this chapter, he already regenerated his injuries.
>Immortality=stamina
>What is Goku vs Zamasu in the manga

Fucking end yourself, merged zamasu was weakened by Vegeto, that's why FSSB goku can grapple with him.

Vegeta stated that FSSB allow goku to fight at full power much longer than him with the switch, he never stated that full power SSB>Merged zamasu

End yourself
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>>157407893
There is no Light of Justice, you fucking fool, Zamasu is a madman. That was simply him drawing out more of his own power as opposed to using the lightest bits of it possible as he had been doing.
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>>157407893
It was stated in the anime that he love talking about himself all the time.

He was just crazy here, he was just going all out, that's why he was able to fight against Vegeto
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>>157407893
>Where did it come from?
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>>157407945
>>157407948
Toyofags can't into characterization, they need everything spoonfed to them.
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>>157407893
This desu
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>>157407945
>There is no Light of Justice
Nice head canon. I'll trust what's actually stated and shown on screen, thanks
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>>157407893
This

But it's still bullshit because merged Zamasu being as strong as he's supposed to be in the outline (SSB Goku tier) makes no sense in the anime because future Zamasu is SSB tier and Black is even stronger than Goku and Vegeta together
It would made sense if anime merged Zamasu was Vegetto tier already but he needed a power up for that
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>>157408036
God I love that manga panel.
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>>157408000
>"He criticized my precious anime! He must be a Toyofag!!"

Damn, what insecure paranoid babies
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>>157408009
>>157408013
Holy shit, mangafags are actually retarded.
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>>157407905
>What is Goku vs Zamasu in the manga
A fight in which Zamasu was psychologically injured but physically fine even after be assraped by SSG Goku.

>he never stated that full power SSB>Merged zamasu
I never stated such a thing either, I said they are in the same tier, not that Goku is simply stronger
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>>157408036
>Comparing two scene who're not even the same shit
>One, zamasu was shocked by the beam, didn't tried to resist here
>The other is zamasu trying to fight seriously
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>>157408036
>because future Zamasu is SSB tier
He isn't SSB Tier, that was just inconsistent nonsense in his first appearance. He got rekt by SSJ2 Trunks immediately afterwards, and swatted away like a fly by SSB Goku multiple times later
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>>157408117
But he was trying to resist, why do you have to lie?
You people are really this pathetic?
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>>157408114
>Damage=stamina
>I never stated such a thing either, I said they are in the same tier, not that Goku is simply stronger

Zamasu was weakened, just watch pic related fucking dammit.

Goku is equal to zamasu now because zamasu was weakened by Vegeto
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>Zamasu d-didn't get a power up he powered up himself

>y-yeah the guy who only trust in himself as the absolute perfection was acting when he cried and asked for a power up in front his enemies
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>>157408151
Future Zamasu's power was SSB-tier. But his actual fighting skills were, if anything, worse than even the regular Zamasu's, because he relied on his immortality and completely stopped defending himself in battle.
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>>157408151
>He got rekt by SSJ2 Trunks immediately afterwards
So did SSR Black
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>>157408194
Not in the scene you showed you fucking retard, then he destroyed goku's leg, until kaioken happen

>>157408200
Are you trolling?
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A-At least Goku fghting Merged Zamasu counts as Goku fighting Black in the manga, r-right?
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>>157408151
A later episode showed him and Goku clashing punches equally though. And Goku complained about how he wasn't bothering with defense at all due to his immortality, which is why he got thrown around.
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>>157408151
Except those inconsistencies add up and he got rekt by Trunks in a NEW BULLSHIT powerup that doesn't exist in the manga called SS Rage. that let him hold off Zamasu and Black.

The fact is in he anime future Zamasu is at the very least SSG tier, which madehow the anime handled the fusion feel very bullshit.
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>>157408151
>in his first appearance
But that's wrong, Trunks and future Zamasu power changed every fucking episode but it's a fact that they said Zamasu was stronger than before and he kicked Goku and Vegeta's ass with Black several times
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>>157408036
Vegeta and Goku were stating that Merged Zamasu was just toying with them.
He didn't use his full power against Goku and Vegeta.
Later he powered up and could fight Vegetto on nearly equal footing.
Trunks on the other hand fought a weakened Merged Zamasu and also got the power from everyone around him to be a match.
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>>157407427
>>157407442
>>157407449
>>157407483
>>157407506
>>157407523
>>157407742
>>157407802
>>157407893
>>157407954
>>157408009
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>>157408305
KYS, all of you.

What is the point shitting on the same shit over and over again?

What is the point saying bullshit over and pver again?

Just let people enjoy their favorite version, both are different, none is greater than the other.

But you know what, SUPER ITSELF IS SHIT!!!!!
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>>157408261
He's probably going to end up fighting Black in the manga anyway, since Merged Zamasu has a time limit, unless Goku's going to beat Merged Zamasu by himself. Why would they even bring that up if he's not going to defuse
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>>157408397
>But you know what, SUPER ITSELF IS SHIT!!!!!
Eat a dick nigger, I think the manga is awesome and consistent.
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>>157408460
Well, you're wrong. But on the other hand, the anime is a fun time.
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Reminder
http://www.strawpoll.me/12991625
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>>157408474
>the anime is a fun time.
Bad writing and shit animation isn't fun anon.
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>>157408199
Zamasu was hurted by Goku and then he regenerated his injuries, so he was fine, and that's exactly what happened now. Your pic only shows a Zamasu who is already fighting Goku, until that part he was fine (and he's fine again at the end of the chapter because he regenerated again).
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>>157408397
you had a point then you lost me. i do not understand the constant push and shove of these threads especially when the manga is moreso an accompaniment for the anime. the manga is closer to toriyamas vision supposedly, but the main story is seen in the anime. regardless, enjoy what you want and shut the fuck up. as long as you dont enjoy super 17
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>>157405710
2ch leak already implied he's boning Caulifia.
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>>157408509
>bad writing
U6 and Future Trunks arcs were both better than the manga though.
>shit animation
RoF arc ended over a year ago.
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>>157408460
>Buzzword

Fucking /pol/tard, the plot itself is shit, the manga is inferior to the old DB by far.
>BEERUS SAMA
>FREEZER DIDN'T TRAINED ACTUALLY
>EVIL GOKU FROM AN ANOTHER DIMENSION
>EVIL KAIOSHIN

Great writing indeed
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>>157408261
beats that faggot cunks getting a stupid asspull form, the only one who gets to win is Goku
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>>157408539
I keep hearing this damn leak but I have yet to have yet to actually see the fucking thing.
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>>157408575
>U6 and Future Trunks arcs were both better than the manga though.
Doesn't change the fact that the writing is shit.


>RoF arc ended over a year ago.
And the animation is shit.
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>>157408517
>Injuries=stamina

KYS, immortality=/=stamina
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>>157408575
>U6 and Future Trunks arcs were both better than the manga though.
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>>157408575
>U6 and Future Trunks arcs were both better than the manga though.
Shit taste desu
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>>157408654
cry more
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>>157408613
And the animation is still shit.*
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>>157408249
>Not in the scene you showed you fucking retard
I'm not the same anon who posted the pic. But yes he did you pathetic liar. He struggled and even gasped in shock. Then he damned himself for being weak
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>>157407893

From the Potaras? Vegetto got a Ki sword, the old Kaioshin got the ability of releasing anyones potential.
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>>157408538
>you had a point then you lost me
When?

People can enjoy their favorite version, no need to bitch all the time about the same thing

>Super 17
From GT or Super?

GT's 17 is shit, Super's 17 is fine, he's just more cold than before (making him more a cybork mentally, maybe it was in purpose).

I don't mind his power as well, the guy was already stronger than SSJ without training, he has 10 years to be SSB.

He was modified at cellular levels

I'm ready to accept this kind of shit after freezer being SSB level in 2 month

I'm just recently annoyed by tien being a weakass compared to roshi, they didn't need to nerf tien for that
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>>157408615
Zamasu did nothing against Vegetto, just summon tons of katching blocks, do you think he was weakened by that? Because that's all he did, that and be injured... then he was healed, so injuries aren't an issue anymore.
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>>157408575
>RoF arc ended over a year ago.
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>>157408397
Why did you tag me you faggot? I didn't bash either version
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>>157408748
That's a weird and shitty headcanon
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>>157408723
He's just a sensible god fucking dammit, are you really taking zamasu's word seriously?

The one who was stated as crazy and egocentric?
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>>157408774
And yet still less than the number of "homages Toyotaro provides"/
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>>157405209
This shit is some rigged bullshit, was in a thread where this poll was posted and Original Japanese and Kai Japanese both had 15+ votes and were the leading ones. In fact let me dig through the fucking history.
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>>157408222

That version of Trunks was as strong as current Gohan.
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>>157408774
Animation aside the lightning in Super is so much better compared to og,Z and GT its not even funny
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>>157408615
Zamasu has infinite stamina
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>>157408769
>Taking damages do nothing to your stamina
>Only damaged part are restored
>Stamina?

Immortality=/=stamina you dumbfuck

Are you a super's baby?
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>>157408844
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What even is going on here?
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>>157408876
>Zamasu has infinite stamina

End yourself, you're obviously trolling at this point

Those who truly believe that FSSB goku>Merged Zamasu, KYS
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>>157408748
Meh I'll take it. Manga MZ suddenly got Janemba powers, Anime MZ got a fucking bird, even normal fusion gave Gotenks and Gogeta new powers. I'll take your theory as fact anon.
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>>157408844
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I haven't been keeping up, is Gohan relevant in this or is he a wiener like usual?
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>>157408868
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>>157408876
Buu is also immortal but can be tired.

End yourself you fucking super's baby.

Retards shouldn't read the manga.
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>>157408955
Vegeta had a plumper butt back in the day
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>>157405782
>TORANKSUs have same hair color
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>>157408980
Gohan is a relevant wiener in the anime. He doesn't exist in the manga.
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>>157408898
>being tired without have used your energy when you are having all your body issues magically healed

Are you underage?
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>>157408945
FSSB Goku is equal or stronger to Merged Zamasu, you can see that by reading the chapter. MZ's regen and infinite stamina are keeping him in the fight

Show me one moment in the manga or anime where Zamasu was shown to be tired.


>>157408997
Buu isn't immortal. And the only time Buu showed fatigue through combat is when another Buu beat his ass. Until DBS made up this whole "Buu needs to sleep for months" bullshit that never existed in DB. It was even a plot point in DB that Buu slept for 3 seconds thinking it was a full day
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>>157409038
How come Toei can homage so much better than that garbage manga?
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>>157408930
Same autism as always basically
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>>157408955
>toeishill don't get story telling in a manga for kids
Pathetic
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>>157408036

Goku could only attack him because Merged Zamasu was shocked after the beam clash. Even Goku asked him "Whats wrong"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KkfeySgLOM
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>>157409114
How much did Toyo pay you to shill you sad sad cuck?
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>>157409116
My autism.
I meant would you have left them out*
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>>157409140
You mean the beam clash who Zamasu LOST against vanilla SSB Goku?
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>>157409077
>the only time Buu showed fatigue through combat is when another Buu beat his ass
Vegito and Gohan were stressing him too.
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>>157409114
>story telling
>a fucking attack
SAD
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>>157409116
>would you have kept the Human Resistance or left them in?
? I wouldn't include them they only served to make Black and Zamasu look incompetent.
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>>157409077
>FSSB Goku is equal or stronger to Merged Zamasu
It was never stated, nice headcanon

>Show me one moment in the manga or anime
>Require spoonfeeding
End yourself

>Buu isn't immortal
KYS please, you're clearly a super's baby, don't read the manga
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>>157409114
>in a manga for kids
That explains the manga shills, then
>>
If you were in charge of the manga, would you have kept the Human Resistance or left them out?

I personally would have left them in.

There, fixed.
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>>157409159
>this fucking post
I didn't even know being so pathetic was possible
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>>157409201
>MUH POWERLEVELS
fucking pedro
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>>157409197
No they were just pissing him off. He still regen'd effortlessly, besides getting rattled by Vegetto's mocking
It's flat out stated in the manga that the only time Buu actually lost stamina was from Kid Buu beating his ass. Vegeta states it
>>157409202
>It was never stated, nice headcanon
Lol what? It's stated in this current chapter. And shown.

>Show me one moment in the manga or anime
>Require spoonfeeding
>End yourself

So you can't back up your claims. Noted.
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>>157409200
>story telling
>can't be done in other methods apart from words
As excepted from a Toei shill.
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>>157409202
You realise that they killed kid buu right?
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>>157409251
>I didn't even know being so pathetic was possible
But Anon... You live like that every day
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>>157409116
The guy who made pic related should be the one being in charge of the manga.
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>>157409200
>proving my point
Nice. I can explain it for you if you still don't get it

>>157409223
>DB
>no for kids
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>>157409257
>buzzwords
wew
Don't post if you have nothing worth saying.
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>>157409116
They should have killed everyone in the future and become villains in the last arc after the ToP when they want to expand their domain.
Trunks and everyone else were boring shits that ruined the story
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>>157409242
The Resistance made no sense, they were nowhere in sight in the beginning of the arc. Both Trunks and Mai were planning to leave them behind for good

I'd keep them but introduce them much better than the sloppy way Toei introduced them. I'd also have them being able to control ki so Trunks actually looks like a capable leader.
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>>157409093
>The writers didn't allow Ginyu to get away with stealing Bra's body because "MUH U16 IS TOO STRONG".
Fuck U16.
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>>157409242
No, resistance's existence is retarded
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>>157409294
Yeah, just like Vegeto who was about to finish merged zamasu, if they're weakened enough, they take more time to regenerate their cells.

You can destroy them completely, this way, they can't regenerate anymore

Fucking KYS
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>>157408752
That's what I meant in regard to his argument. People need to stop shitting on one another every five seconds. And I meant GT. I love how DBS has treated 17 thus far.
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>>157409304
That's just a copycat of the anime and really overrated here.
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>>157409304
>Black hates ningen
>"OH MY GOD NINGEN-SENPAI NOTICED ME"

>also having Goku fighting Black when Toriyama's script make it impossible

No
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How's this color? Isn't it beautiful?
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>>157409352
Trunks was too busy crying about "muh future" and jobbing to black for that
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>>157409456
Looks pretty gay.
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>>157409266
>Kid Buu beating his ass
Are you saying that kid buu's punch are unique?

Are you this retarded?

>Lol what? It's stated in this current chapter. And shown.
Never stated, goku fight against a weakened merged zamasu you fucking retard

>So you can't back up your claims. Noted.
Are you retarded? Immortality=/= stamina, as it was showed with kid buu vs buu
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Genuine question
Is he autistic?
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>>157409179

You mean that Goku who had to break both of his arms to win the beam clash?

Trunks or Vegeta couldve pulled it off too...if they want to lose their limbs
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>>157408505
>manga at the bottom
Toyo is shit confirmed
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>>157409356
He went over the Super Saiyan to reach the level above it. His aura became golder than ever, blinding the god who was panicking in front of the uncontrollable anger of his disciple who was still yelling his feelings:
''I want to live at peace, damn it. I don't even had time to do anything bad in that fucking life! I don't deserve to go through all that! All I want is to chuck everything out! I'm fed up to the back teeth with troubles, families and raging hunger!''
He finished with a long scream as he was increasing his strength to a level still unequaled as he attained super Saiyan 2. Kibito Kai couldn't believe his eyes. Vegetto's power was phenomenal. He had never felt anything like that! He realized that he was uncontrollably shaking, deeply impressed. He fought to get up and got near Vegetto. This latter glared at him, reflecting his mood, angry to say the least.
''L... Listen, Vegetto... It... Calm down, ok?'' stammered Kibito Kai. ''It's not bad if you don't do it straight off, it's actually normal, but please, control yourself...''
Vegetto looked down. The vessel on his forehead beating hard. The Saiyan bend his elbow and said:
''I... can't bear that situation anymore...''
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>>157409418
You're an idiot. Black hated ningen, but he respected (to a degree) and was obsessed with Goku in the anime. Some compliments would be sarcasm on his end. That was his character.
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>>157409405
>To-toyotaro's writing is perfect

I don't really like the anime but toyo's black wasn't really great, he was pretty generic.

The pic I've posted is much much better.

Also, toyo can take the best part from the anime with a much better coherent execution
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>>157409511
No, just Japanese.
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>>157409533
In Videl's bedroom, the ambiance was quite intense. Gohan was sitting astride his girlfriend and was kissing her passionately. Videl took his hand and placed him on her breast. Gohan stopped then, lustful but also embarrassed.
“Do you want... that we... now?”
Videl bit her bottom lip and nodded.
“I do want! I love you Gohan.”
Emboldened, the half Saiyan began removing his girlfriend's shirt when he felt a ki right behind him. He gave a start and got up hastily as he recognized his father's ki. The latter was staring at them, baffled. Gohan stammered:
“D... dad? But what the hell are you doing here?”
“I'm sorry. I never thought that I could catch you on the verge of... Good thing that I didn't leave 10 minutes later!”
Videl had quickly pulled her shirt down, her cheek red with shame. Vegetto told them:
“We're going for our new planet now. You coming?”
“Huh... Ok.” said Gohan.
“Just give me time to take some clothes.” begged Videl, taking a bag.
The two men left the room, each avoiding the glance of the other. Vegetto broke the ice.
“I'm sorry to have interrupted you like that...”
“It's ok...” answered Gohan, very embarrassed.
“No, it's not... Especially considering it's your first time.”
Gohan went from very embarrassed to extremely embarrassed. He was red as a beetroot and found that his shoes were very interesting all of a sudden. He starred at them until zVidel arrived.
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>>157409418
>Toriyama's outline is perfect

KYS you waste of flesh
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>>157409523
>Ok ok the potara fusion between SSR Black (stronger than SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta fighting together) and future Zamasu (strong enough to kick some SSB's ass) lost a beam clash against SSB Goku BUT Goku tried it really hard!

I'm sick of this bullshit, kid.
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>>157409586
When Vegetto arrived in his field, he put his hands on the soil. He felt a sort of nostalgia overcoming him. He saw smaller hands, the hands of a child plowing a field with difficulty. Dazed, he closed his eyes for a few seconds then opened them to see his own hands. He felt a tear in the corner of his eyes, but he didn’t rub it off. With rage, he put his hands in the ground and started working, his mind elsewhere…
Further, Kulilin bustled about working as fast as he could. After half an hour, he allowed himself a short break. He had plowed about thirty miles square of field, he could rest a bit, couldn’t he? He exhaled heavily and let himself fall on the ground, his eyes focused on the blue sky. Memories of Gokû and him came back from time to time. No matter how he liked Vegetto, it wasn’t the same… On the other hand, he had none to blame for anything… After all, there was no one to blame… Besides, it had been only a few months that he had been gone. Time would heal. Kulilin closed his eyes that tears had filled at the thought of his best friend, almost his brother… After a while, he dried his tears with his sleeves then got back up and stretched. Those fields weren’t going to plow themselves!
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>>157408505
>>157409532
not surprised here
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>>157409644
Not him but why do you still bitch about it month after month?

Not the worst thing in DB, the scene itself wasn't as bad if you take aside the powerscaling.

Also well animated
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>>157409545
>>To-toyotaro's writing is perfect
I never said that, you insecure retard. Just copying the anime into the manga isn't creative or superior, it's just lazy
>>157409479
>Are you saying that kid buu's punch are unique?
>
>Are you this retarded?
Read the manga, this is sad

.>>157409479
>goku fight against a weakened merged zamasu you fucking retard
He's not weakened at all. Just like he wasn't weakened in the anime. The head canon and reaches you faggots do to justify shitty writing is hilarious

>>157409479
>Immortality=/= stamina
Except it is. You still can't back up any points. Hold this L
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>You must come back alive
Was this line in the anime?
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>>157409677
saved. thanks for the keks, lad.
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>>157409533
>>157409586
>>157409649
what the fuck is this
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>>157409741
Bulma went with them in the anime, because the anime likes to give screentime to characters besides Goku and Vegeta.
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>>157409780
I'll take that as a no.
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>>157409736
>Read the manga, this is sad
That's my line

>He's not weakened at all.
Nice headcanon

>Except it is
>What is kid buu vs buu

End yourself
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>>157409851
Nice job ignoring the image I posted that exposes you as an idiot
This is sad.
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>>157409376
Buu had biological immortality, which just meant he's ageless and could regenerate from ALMOST anything.

Zamasu wished for the kind of immortality which meant he can't die. Even Vegito can't do shit to him. At least nothing permanent.

Kill yourself you dumbass.
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>>157409644

Fun fact is that Goku never used the kamehameha in the Black arc before clashing with Merged Zamasu.
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>>157409544
>Black hated ningen
>but he respected Goku in the anime
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm calling bullshit. It was bullshit in the anime and it's bullshit in that carbon copy of the anime.

>>157409594
>Toriyama's outline is perfect
No but Toriyama's outline is there and you can't change it. You can having Goku being weaker/comparable to Black and then struggle with merged Zamasu (which is fucking stupid) or not having Goku fighting Black. Or have Goku getting a power up... which make me think why they don't used SSBKK Goku to struggle with Zamasu the entire fight, not just 2 seconds at the end, that would worked because they had an actual power up to use, unlike Toyble.
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>>157409456
the fuck is wrong with his eyes?
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>>157409395
Fucking ningen gas.
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Leave the tournament of power to me.
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>>157409874
Retarded translation

Also
>What is Super Buu vs Gohan
>What is Super buuhan vs Vegeto
>What is buu vs beerus

>>157409877
>Buu had biological immortality, which just meant he's ageless and could regenerate from ALMOST anything
Yeah, nothing about stamina you retard
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>>157409976
>Retarded translation
We're done here. It's obvious you're just shitposting at this point because you can't admit you're wrong. Have fun retard
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>>157409756
I second that notion.
>>157409533
>>157409586
>>157409649
Anon, what is this? Is this from the novelization of DBM?
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Where my jump-lads at? I'm really enjoying seeing the slow improvement of DBS as a series
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>>157409971
Dad no, you'll get hurt again! By grandpa!
Leave it to me!
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>>157409993
Yeah just ignore the fight I've quoted, also.

>What is Super Buu vs Gotenks
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>>157406653
Six faces in these times is quite an accomplishment. Most mangaka can barely draw 1 and a half faces.
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>>157409756
>>157409994
Isn't it wonderful?

“Please, a little fight!”
“We'll make the Earth shake another time, dad. I've many things to do since Pan's birth. The administration is requesting completely stupid things! Do you know that because of her grand-father, she's considered a princess? It doesn't give her any privilege, but I still have to fill up the files.”
“Pleaaaase! I'd like to see you motivated for once! We can go on Jupitron-9? The air is breathable and the gravity is 200G! We can break anything we want there!”
“What? A gravity of 200 times Earth gravity?”
“Ah ah! I knew you'd be interested!”
“So it means that the gravitational acceleration reaches 1962 meter per second squared! I don't think that rock or earth can take such an heavy pressure. I wonder what is it made of.”
“Huh?”
“And how can the air be breathable? The oxygen should at least be liquid on that planet. I suppose it's still dangerous for the body.”
“But what are you babbling? The air is breathable, that's all there is to know! Bra didn't complain about it.”
“What? You had your little girl support that pressure??? But she weighed about 25 500 Newton over there!”
(Little game, for you, readers: what is Bra's weigh in pounds/kilograms when she get on a scales?)
“Gohan, what you're saying doesn't make sense. All I can tell you is that Bra and I survive very well when we go there. Anyway, I can see you're in no mood for a serious fight. You never are.”
“Eh... yes, dad. I'm sorry, but fighting isn't my favourite pastime.”
“I know. Yet you never fought better than years back, when you fought against Buu, Ah, I remember that one! Motivation can change everything with you!”
“Eh, I guess so. So, I've to go dad. Dad...? Are you ok?”
Vegetto had just stopped moving, his fingers were contracted and looked like claws.
“I... huh.. no, it's nothing. I'm going. See you later, my son.”
And he teleported himself.
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>>157409713
>why do you still bitch about it month after month?
Because some people still think
SSB Goku <<< regular merged Zamasu
And that such a thing would make sense. Merged Zamasu being Goku tier in the anime is stupid because Black and Zamasu are too strong, but merged Zamasu being as strong as he would be based on Black and Zamasu strength is stupid too because he was humillated by SSB Goku. I don't care about this bullshit I can't deal with people pretending it's fine.

Also even ignoring merged Zamasu's strength, SSB Goku's Kamehameha > SSA Trunks + SSB Vegeta Father-Son Garlick Gun is bad, Vegeta training was totally useless.

>well animated
Joke? It was a joke I guess
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>>157410017
They should dump the girls in the time chamber or have Whis age them up for more waifubait desu
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>>157410168
Vegetto had materialized in a barren place on the Senzu planet. He didn't want his friends to detect the anger – and power – excess that he was about to release.
“AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!” he yelled to the sky.
It had lasted less than half a second, but the thought had crossed his mind.
“How could I thought of doing such a thing?!?”
He still was feeling the disgust from the image of his hand, tainted with blood.
“That old Namek was right! What an ass-hole!”
The steam that was rising behind him, the destruction of the entire planet, but more important than that...
“No, I'm the ass-hole! Ass-hole, bastard!”
More important than that, the injured body, yes, injured, not dead, for it was more effective...
“Monster! You Saiyan jackass!”
Gohan's little baby, held hostage in his hand.
“That was only a fleeting thought... Yes, I've been bored for so many years... I'd like to have a good challenge for once, that's all... I'd never do such a thing.”
Gohan was the strongest being in the universe, second to Vegetto. Even if he didn't transform in super Saiyan, the Immortal couldn't be a good and interesting challenge. But Gohan seldom agreed to fight, and when he did, and even if his strength was the same, it was obvious that it was just a friendly spar in his mind. Anger... Yes, anger and the need to protect and to save his friends, weren't here, and his fighting spirit significantly lowered.
Subconsciously, Gohan used just a ridiculously small part of his true power when he fought against his father.
In order to make him truly fight, Vegetto could have torn the planet apart and hurt his wife and his daughter...
“What an horrible thought.”
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>>157410017
But that's Note, not Pan
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>>157410195
>SSB Goku <<< regular merged Zamasu
>Just by clash with beams

So regular namek goku>50% freezer?
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>>157410168
>>157410218
No, really. What the fuck is this?

The lack of answers is scaring me.
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>>157408826
>This shit is some rigged bullshit, was in a thread where this poll was posted and Original Japanese and Kai Japanese both had 15+ votes and were the leading ones
Whatever you say, bossman
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>>157410195
>Joke? It was a joke I guess
Please show me a well animated weekly anime without ANY BREAK

>SSB Goku <<< regular merged Zamasu
Pic related never happened right?
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>>157408517
>hurted
Pedro pls
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>>157410168
>>157410218
multiverse was a mistake
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>>157410332
>Please show me a well animated weekly anime without ANY BREAK
Naruto
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>>157410237
nah, that's pan

this is note
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>>157410411
naruto was NOT well animated weekly, you're lying to yourself
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>>157410411
>Naruto
>Weekly well animated
HAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>157410482
>naruto was NOT well animated weekly,
>you're lying to yourself
The irony
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>>157410293
>>157410394
do you need more?
there is much more... so much more, anons
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>>157410280
>Just by clash with beams
Pic related

Also
1 Freeza's control of his energy was shit until RoF, Black (therefore, merged Zamasu as well) can power up himself to the 100% in a second like Goku and the others can.
2 Goku didn't won the clash, Freeza did, with his fucking hand alone

>>157410332
And then pic related happened
Toei power scaling is bullshit, just deal with it.
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>>157410539
i know what i'm talking about, but do you? you're cherry picking selective scenes that looked good. again, stop lying to yourself retard
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Holy shit you fucks can't stop with the Manga vs anime stuff, can you?

Why don't you enjoy what you like and stop shitting on other people for having different tastes. Or better yet enjoy both.
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>>157410569
NO
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>>157410575
Pic missing because I'm stupid
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>>157410575
>Freeza's control of his energy was shit until RoF
Nice headcaon

>Goku didn't won the clash, Freeza did
Genki was supposed to be strong enough to kill freezer, still alive

>Toei power scaling is bullshit, just deal with it.
It's incoherent yeah but regular merged zamasu>goku.

Toei tried to justify the beam with goku's arms being fucked up, that's all.

That's why goku is tired as fuck and merged zamasu is still standing on the ground
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>>157410595
>no argument
>Ad Hominem
wew
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>>157410647
your filename is off completely
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>>157410670
He's right though.

I can show you some well animated scenes from super, does it mean that it's a weekly well animated anime?
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>>157405282

They'll all be lucky enough to be fleshed out as appule is
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>>157410569
I am so glad Super prevented this bullshit from being anywhere near canon. Fuck U16 Bra, fuck U16 Vegito, fuck U16 in general and fuck Salagir for creating this garbage.
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>>157410750
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>>157410569
Post more
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>>157410647
The bottom part was just zamasu still being shocked by the beams you fucking retard.

Merged Zamasu>Goku, toei's reason for goku winning the beam clash was just him going beyond his limits with his arms being fucked up.

Yeah, it's a cheap excuse indeed, but Goku is still inferior to merged zamasu.

Why is goku unable to fight after this if he was stronger than merged zamasu?
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>>157408826
He posted it on /co/ and /v/, hence the votes. Still means jackshit when Funi themselves don't even use it anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LcRRXPPDDc
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End of DBZ/Neko Buu version Pan > crap > GT Pan > Absolute fucking shit > Mai
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>>157410720
>I can show you some well animated scenes from super,
Eh you could some half decent scenes especially compared to Naruto.

>does it mean that it's a weekly well animated anime?
No, because DBS doesn't have that much decent animation let alone good animation unlike Naruto.
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>>157410915
>Studio Pierrot
>Good studio

Die
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>>157410915
I just realized rock lee is saitama
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>>157410902
Mai did nothing wrong, and the only one you can blame is Toriyama
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>>157410218

I'm not sure if people are knocking this characterization because super shows how far goku is willing to go for a good fight
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>>157410983
I blame them both
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>>157410902
t. Panfag
Torankusu is Mai's now, deal with it.
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>>157410901
>He posted it on /co/ and /v/
I'm the one who created the poll, and posted >>157405209 and >>157410313. If that's true, someone else must have posted it on those boards, because I only posted it in the 3 DBS threads yesterday.
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>>157410806
Cringed hard
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>>157411055
Toriyama did nothing wrong either
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>>157410575
>Toei power scaling is bullshit, just deal with it.
This desu
Base mode Black was tanking hits from SSB Vegeta
Only to get rekted by SS2 Trunks in his SSRose form. >>157408222

ThatFeelWhenTwoNingenDisrespectYou
Means shit.
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>>157411040
I think it may be a part of toriyama's outline, goku going this far for that.
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>>157411058
Nice devientart garbage faggot.
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>>157409005
Well they are supposed to have the same hair color.
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What episode is it where Frieza is supposedly coming back?
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>>157410959
Stay mad.
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>>157410630
>>157410750
but isn't it just so
grand? so wonderful? such writing... it's amazing

>>157410827
as you wish

'Well, hi boys! Did you have a good day?'
'Yeah, it was...' started Trunks.
'… really great!' finished Goten, throwing a fist in the sky.
The two small boys laughed. Vegetto said:
'You li'l monsters, go inside and take a shower!'
The two boys raced to enter. Bulma asked with a smile:
'They didn't give you a hard time, did they?'
'Well, to tell the truth, I had fun too...' admitted Vegetto.
Bulma sketched a smile. Videl, feeling she was in the way, said:
'Well, I'm on my way! See you around!'
She immediately flew off. Bulma made the first move.
'About earlier... The kiss...'
Vegetto felt embarrassed too, but he didn't got out of it.
'I did it because... I wanted to...' he explained.
Bulma threw a weird glance at him so he decided to give more explanation.
'Actually... I had made up my mind for a long time, but you and Chi-Chi needed time to know me... So, I don't know if you love me... Really...'
Bulma really felt attracted by Vegetto. In her mind, he was the ideal man: a mix of the two extremes that Gokû and Vegeta were could give birth only to a very balanced man. She said:
'Well, I... feel attracted by you too.' She choose her words carefully. 'But it had been so short a time, only three months...'
Vegetto sighed.
'I know! Let's wait for a bit longer. You'll tell me what you feel by then... When you'll be sure.'
Bulma nodded and, by a tacit agreement, they didn't say anything else about it.
'So, my dear, how was your week-end with Trunks?' asked Chi-Chi, while she was cleaning dishes.
'It was wonderful! Dad took us to a theme park! And he kissed Bulma.'
A noise of broken plate could be heard.
'What?!' his mother shrieked.
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>>157411107
He brought back a character for no other purpose but to be a waifu fag for trunks. She's not even really Mai anymore.
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>>157411058
I never understood this pic. Why did Zamasu punch Black?
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>>157411157
93.
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>>157411114
>It means shit because I've say so

See >>157410669 >>157410829
Yeah those scenes were incoherent, but Black>SSJ2 Trunks, Merged Zamasu>SSBGoku, deal with it.
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I'm willing to admit Toyotaro isn't experienced doing fight scenes, and it's why he copies a lot from DBZ.

It's not bad I don't mind it and prefer the story in the manga though. Personally I was a fan of his AF, and I feel like he's a true fan who wants to do the story justice.

Both the anime and manga have their flaws and are good and bad in different ways. Personally I prefer the manga, but both sides had bad ideas and good ideas. Here's some from the black saga.
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>>157411203
>Merged Zamasu>SSBGoku
Zamasu himself disagrees
See >>157408009
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>>157411058
This is the fan art you use to make your point?
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>>157411223
How's Toyo's cock taste?
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>>157410669
>Nice headcaon
Except it was stated in "The Strongest God - DB Book of F" that after his training Freeza can control his energy so he can go from his weakest form to his "final" form and he doesn't go bulky when he's using his 100%, Namek Freeza is totally different, not even able to go 100 without seconds of charging his ki and he even lost power by time.

>Genki was supposed to be strong enough to kill freezer, still alive
Yeah just like the other one it was supposed to be strong enough to kill Vegeta. Enemies being stronger than what Goku though isn't an argument.

>regular merged zamasu>goku
Except when Goku rapes Zamasu even after the beam clash. It makes no sense, if you take Zamasu as stronger than Goku is bullshit, and it's still bullshit if you take Zamasu as Goku tier.

>>157410829
>being shocked
Nice excuse no

>Toei's reason for Goku doing something he can't do was him going beyond his limits with his arms being fucked up
See right above.

>it's a cheap excuse indeed
A shitty one I would say.

>Why is goku unable to fight after this if he was stronger than merged zamasu?
Goku was tired of the entire fight of previous episodes and the clash itself... which only makes the excuse even worse.
And I didn't say stronger just in the same tier
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>>157411174
Go build a time machine like Bulma so you can avoid this ending
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>>157411223
Anime pros
>Merged Zamasu halo, more hyped vegito fight
>Trunks Rage transformation
>SSBKK
>Family Galick Gun, thought I dislike how it was handled

Anime cons
>Kinda fucked power scaling most of the time
>Trunks Rage transformation, while I thought it was awesome, also lacked explanation and had me question why they never use SS3
>Parts of the merged Zamasu fight felt kinda BS, or ripped from old material, like family Galick Gun against Zamasu, or Goku destroying the halo (best part of Zamasu's design IMO) and making him go purple.
>Merged Zamasu's purple goop reminds me of Bio-Broly. I hope we don't see it in Xenoverse 2 because it's honestly ugly.

Manga pros
>More consistent power scaling
>Future and Kid Trunks being bros
>Vegeta SSG, which I felt meant a good explanation for how he was able to go SSGSS
>Rather than Trunks having a rage transformation, he trained SS2 and mastered it, reaching SS3 level power
>Zamasu using magical Kai powers
>SS Rose gets an explanation
>SENZUS
>I genuinely love merged Zamasu's portals and how he uses them.
>Merged Zamasu's design is bulkier and has more Goku-like traits, feeling more manly and a true fusion between the two.

Manga cons
>Some fucked powerscaling between Vegeta and Black
>Trunks being sidelined, though I also felt this made sense he really didn't need Goku to save his ass from a ki blast. The rage transformation was bullshit but kept him relevant.
>Vegito fight more underwhelming, while I found the difference in strength between the two fusions made sense I also felt Zamasu should've done more than god damn KATCHIN BLOCKS, and Vegito should've been allowed to get off a SSB Final Kamehameha before the fusion ended
>No Zamasu halo
>Trunks suddenly having healing powers made Mai's survival feel like less of an asspull, but the powers themselves feel like an asspull.

Did I miss anything?
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>>157411166
This shit's hilarious
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>>157411166
zamasu was right
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>>157411131
Keep crying.

>>157411190
I don't really get it either, maybe because Black got too excited.
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>>157411166
>The mini-comic where Bulma and Chi-Chi fused isn't canon.
>Instead, Vegito just cucks and dumps Chi-Chi for Bulma.
Fuck you, Salagir.
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>>157411262
If only I could.
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>>157411293
Just laughing ant how shit your taste is.
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>>157411253
Here's a scene of the anime for you then.
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>>157411257
Let people like what they like you faggot.

How autistic do you have to be to shit on people for enjoying a different continuity of an imperfect series?

Hope the cheeto dust on those fat fingers taste good
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>>157411293
>>157411357
>how shit your taste is.
Irony.
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>>157411203
>Merged Zamasu>SSBGoku, deal with it.
That explains him losing to Goku in a beam clash.
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>>157411166
I hadn't seen this before
Now I wish this was still the case
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>>157411270
Both versions are shit bc no broly though
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>>157411164
>Show the best scenes from a show
>Mean that all his episode are well animated

Fucking kill yourself

>>157411260
>Except when Goku rapes Zamasu even after the beam clash
He was shocked you dumbfuck, then he destroy goku's leg, after that kaioken happen.

>Goku was tired of the entire fight of previous episodes and the clash itself
Nice headcanon, he was tired from the clash only, nothing back your claim beside that

>And I didn't say stronger just in the same tier

No you're wrong, merged zamasu is standing on the ground, after fucking with SSB Vegeta, Ikari trunks and SSB goku.

You're just believing on your headcanon because somes scenes were incoherent, toei's excuse are shit indeed but merged zamasu is still stated as superior to goku
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>>157410806
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>>157411369
How does this distracted that Mai was brought back to be nothing but waifu shit for Trunks?
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>>157411357
>you have shit taste
>Is a panfag
Nice try, anon.
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Is Asura was japanese would he have been pick over Toyotaro or at least working for official products?
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>>157411438
Stay mad.
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>>157411411
Yeah, like a said it's an incoherent scene because toei used a shitty excuse, goku's arms being fucked up, meaning that he has to go beyong his limits to hurt merged zamasu, shitty excuse but show that goku isn't zamasu's tier.

Goku then used kaioken to kick merged zamasu when he finally reacted after the beam, piccolo vs freezer proved that you can kick your opponent while being much weaker than him.

Then, merged zamasu>Goku SSB, because after dealing with Vegeta, Trunks, and Goku, he's still standing on the ground while the other are not.
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>>157411498
Probably not, works slower than Toyo does
Why do you think half of DBM is """specials?"""
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>>157405710
You're being paranoid. Frieza's only revengesexual now and would have zero interest in such a thing as having a waifu.
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>>157411556
>goku isn't zamasu's tier.
>>157411239
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>>157408868
Goddamn that generic robber guy looks like such shit.
What happened to generics having unique faces?
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Last thread was fun because we made fun of both the manga and anime by shitting on Vegeta.
Can we go back to that anons? Manga and Anime fans joined together to mock Vegeta always being cucked by Goku's gains?
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>>157411604
Fucking retard, Zamasu is the one standing on the ground while the other are basically dead.

Zamasu is just triggered, a crybaby here, it was stated numerous times.

You're just bitching here
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>>157408868
I miss Raditz
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>>157411174
>inplying waifufag cancer cares
they're just upset that in the only true canon Trunks took it up the butt daily
>>
Wait, Yajerobe's power level in Saiyan Saga is 970?

Why didn't he help defeat Raditz? He's stronger than Goku at this point. Why didn't Yajerobe wreck King Piccolo?
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>>157411671
>Zamasu is just triggered,
Because he got rekted by Goku retard.
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>>157411492
Why were you even comparing Pan and Mai if they actually never really interacted with each other? Are you that butthurt?
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>>157411166
Multiverse really is something, isn't it?
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>>157411270
>and Vegito should've been allowed to get off a SSB Final Kamehameha before the fusion ended
This couldn't happen. In the manga, Vegetto was Beerus tier, and a Final Kamehameha would have killed Zamasu. So they did a retread of GT instead.
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>>157411645
only if his future cuck son is involved as well
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>>157411765
>retread of GT instead.
You mean Gotenks vs Super Buu.
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>>157411713
>Because he got rekted by Goku retard.
Because goku damaged him yes, a character weaker than you can damage you indeed.

Toei used a shitty excuse with the arms part.

Zamasu is the one standing on the ground you fucking retard.

I don't need to explain it again, goku is the one unable to fight after that, not zamasu
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>>157411645
Well Vegeta was always a rivalcuck to Goku
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>>157411765
I don't think a final kamehameha would've killed merged Zamasu in the manga, since he seems to have future Zamasu's proper immortality. At the very least I believe it should work that way.
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>>157411854
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>>157411438
>Goku being tired after eat dust several times in these episodes is headcanon
>merged zamasu is standing on the ground, after fucking with SSB Vegeta, Ikari trunks and SSB goku... who cares when his halo and face were destroyed by Goku's kicks
>shocked excuse
Just stop already, if that's all you have I'll not provide you delicious (You)s anymore
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>>157411713
See >>157411556
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>>157405380
Whod have thought fucking Mai, of all characters, and without Pilaf, would become relevant again?
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>>157411842
See
>>157408009
Zamasu himself says he's weak after losing to Goku and the reason Zamasu wasn't killed is because of his immortality.

Stay mad retard.
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>>157411891
Just forget the next scene where he stand on his feets
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>>157411896
see >>157411919
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>>157411494
Why are you so retarded. Pan is at lease her own character while Mai has been turned into nothing but a generic "badass girl" who does nothing but revolvs arounds Trunks cock. She doesn't even have character anymore.
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>>157411904
>and without Pilaf
Well nobody knows yet if 17 and 18 or Black killed Pilaf and Shu
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>>157411919
>>157411955

See >>157411671

Also, zamasu standing on his feets after this fight while goku and the other are fucked never happened right?
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>>157412012
See >>157411919
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>>157411904
She's bearly Mai anymore honestly. She might as well be an entirely new character.
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>>157411919
>wasn't killed is because of his immortality
Are you retarded?

In the anime, it was stated that his immortallity doesn't work well.

Gowasu never stated that it was thanks to goku, he said that Zamasu is unstable because of the incompatibility between a immortal soul and a mortal soul

Are you dumb?
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>>157411864

>>157411957
>she should have remained the same after having to grow up again and after her life-long friends got killed
Sure thing anon.
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>>157412033
>Ignore gowasu's words

End yourself
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>>157412054
That's basically what she was. I assume Toriyama wanted the Pilaf gang back and what better way to shoehorn them back into the plot but by making Mai a love interest
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>>157411819
I compared it to GT instead because Super Buu was sandbagging against Gotenks to he could absorb him later to beat Gohan

But yeah, I guess you can say it was Gotenks he copied off.
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>>157412033
Yeah, he just level up his power here.

Thanks for proving that he's much stronger than goku when he's serious.
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>>157412078
>In the anime, it was stated that his immortallity doesn't work well.
It still heals some of his damage retard.
Go back to when he say "I'm immortal" to Trunks
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>>157412054
Just like Kid Trunks and Future Trunks are nothing like each other personality wise.
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>>157411862
Vegetto implied that he'd destroy his body to the point that it'd be too much even for regeneration. I'm assuming Beerus and Whis could do the same according to Whis' lines in the final episode of the anime arc
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>>157411942
>he, who was at 100% when he fused, wasn't defeated by a Goku who was tired of fight against Black and Zamasu a few episodes ago, therefore his strength isnt' comparable at all to Goku's!
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>>157412106
She shouldn't have been there at all. That's my point. She's litterly only Mai in character design and nothing else.
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>>157410619
Where do you think you are, etc. But I agree with your sentiment.
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>>157412195
>he's much stronger than goku
See >>157408009
>weak god
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>>157411864
This is the CREEPIEST relationship in DB.
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>>157412239
See >>157412235
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>>157412223
>It still heals some of his damage
Some, not all, that's why it doesn't work well you fucking retard.

>Go back to when he say "I'm immortal" to Trunks
Yeah, that's why his body is no more in the same episode right?

Zamasu's words are never wrong right?
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>>157411157
2 weeks from tomorrow.
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Manga-Mai is the cutest chick ever. Prove me wrong.
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>>157412265
I love the manga but people taking seriously the enemy's lines from DB are retarded.
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>>157412178
That's what happened actually. He wanted them back so he made then young again and added romance because he thought it would make things interesting.
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>>157412106
I hated how Future Mai had no reaction at all with the present versions of everyone. Especially Pilaf and herself.

I hope she has interaction in the manga. But I get the feeling it'll be just as rushed
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>>157412290
>It still heals some of his damage
>some
>Some, not all
>Some
Retard.


>Zamasu's words are never wrong right?
Stop being retarded, the damage Trunks did to Zamasu heals as he's saying that.
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>>157412239
This, shoehorned drama
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>>157412236
Zamasu's immortality also came from the Super Dragon Balls, and I'm not sure even Beerus could do anything about it. Also the implication I got from Whis' lines at the end was that he had a better method of sealing Zamasu than the Mafuba.
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>>157412351
>You can't believe what the characters are saying or you're retarded
Try harder dude.
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>>157412237
>Goku who was tired of fight against Black and Zamasu
Nice headcanon, prove it retard

>>157412378
>Retard
That's my line, his immortality doesn't work well, as it was stated by gowasu himself

>Stop being retarded, the damage Trunks did to Zamasu heals as he's saying that.
Yeah, just ignore Gowasu's words
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>>157412341
I think my waifu is cuter.
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>>157412274
Trunks is a main character who's been around since forever now. Mai was nothing but a comedic sidekick character that was shoved into a romantic narrative with a main character just to be relivent.
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>>157412355
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>>157412415
So only Zeno can erase him? Then Goku's fight in the manga right now is completely pointless. In fact, he's even more screwed if they defuse because now it's 2 dangerous opponents instead of one, and Goku's body is giving out already

How many chapters do you think we have left? 1 or 2?
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>>157412437
Zamasu is a fucking retard killing all ningens for "justice"

It was proved that he love talking to himself in the anime.

It was also proved that he's crazy in the anime

Stay mad.
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>>157412341
Yes anon she is adorable!

>>157412356
That bothered me too. But I have hopes that the manga ending won't be as rushed as the anime ending was, so maybe we'll see interactions between them.
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>>157412439
>That's my line, his immortality doesn't work well,
It still healed his damage retard and I said some not all.

>Yeah, just ignore Gowasu's words
Yeah and you ignore the fucking visuals on screen kys.
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>>157412271

Soon to be surpassed by Kale and Frost.
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>>157412498
Try harder dude.
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>>157412506
>It still healed his damage retard and I said some not all.
So it doesn't work well, thanks for agreeing with me

>>157412506
>Yeah and you ignore the fucking visuals on screen kys.
And you ignore gowasu's words, the guy who know more than you since you're not a part of DB.

End yourself

>>157412545
He cried, thinking his tears will purify the world.

And you take him seriously?
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>>157412341
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>>157412439
>Nice headcanon, prove it retard
You aren't trying anymore huh?
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>>157412341
>Prove me wrong
She's not Launch
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>>157412459
>Trunks is a main character who's been around since forever now
Mai has been around since way before Trunks, anon.
And so what if she was a comic relief character? Even if they're the same person, Future Mai and Present Mai are different characters. They aren't supposed to act the same, just like Present/Future Trunks don't.
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>>157412593
>You aren't trying anymore huh?
That's my line, your headcanon isn't canon.
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>>157412578
>So it doesn't work well,
The retard is finally up to speed is he? Good took you long enough.

>And you ignore gowasu's words

>Yeah and you ignore the fucking visuals on screen kys.

Also let me ask you is SS2 Goku as strong as a God of Destruction?
Because that's what Gowasu said.
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>>157410004
Jump-lad reporting in, I love seeing the show improve from the shitshow it once was.
Fucking based Shueisha.
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>>157412683
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>>157412480
It's not pointless though. The whole point has been to wait out the fusion, and deal with Black (who Goku and Vegeta can handle at this point) and Future Zamasu (who is easy) after.
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>>157412582
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>>157412578
>Goku overpowers Merged Zamasu in a beam clash
>fucks up half his face
>Zamasu himself says he's weak after losing to Goku
>B-but no he's crazy!!!!!

Top kek
Try harder dude.
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>>157412701
>SS2 Goku as strong as a God of Destruction
Goku was a possible candidate to be a god of destruction for Whis, so he's not really wrong.

Just not beerus level as beerus stated some second after gowasu's words

Also, gowasu's words were meant to show how strong goku is compared to a kai, story telling for you

Gowasu's word for merged zamasu are meant to explain his weakness

>>157412748
>Ad hominem
>>
>>157410004
Shueishabro here, feels good knowing toeipedros and toyocucks are both feeling the effect
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>>157412824
See >>157411556 >>157412078 >>157412578

Try again
>>
>>157412847
My fellow DB Roomie.
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>>157412831
>Goku was a possible candidate to be a god of destruction for Whis
So by that logic SSB Goku is stronger Beerus.

>Just not beerus level as beerus stated some second after gowasu's words
So are you implying Gowasu isn't trustworthy?
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>>157412756
Vegeta is weak, Goku is barely holding on and quickly becoming exhausted, Trunks is tired from healing

They can't beat Black and Zamasu in their conditions. They need Zeno
>>
Mai fags are fucking stupid. They obviously don't care that she's no longer the same character basikly a satilight character to trunks. They just want to self incert I to trunks because she's his waifu now.
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>>157412883
See>>157411919
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>>157412106
I wish /a/ allowed sound for webms.
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>>157412813
Seeing that kind of stuff in dragon ball is so weird
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>>157410004
Here bro. It's amazing seeing the manga go from a shallow abridged series to it's own legit adaptation. And the current anime arc has been fun
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>>157412909
>So by that logic SSB Goku is stronger Beerus.
Goku base is much stronger than before in DBS

Also, whis stated in all version that goku is a candidate to be a god of destruction, he's just strong enough for him, doesn't mean that he's at the level of a average god of destruction.

Toppo is said to be a possible candidate as a god of destruction, is he stronger than beerus for you?

>>157412937
See >>157412578
>>
>>157411864
>>157412271
I actually like them as friends.
>>
>>157412930
I already replied to you here:
>>157412634
We all lose arguments sometimes, anon. Please don't get mad.
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>>157412909
>So are you implying Gowasu isn't trustworthy?

Please prove me that gowasu was thinking of beerus precisely when he stated that.

So was whis retarded when goku was stated as a possible candidate to be a god of destruction?
>>
Gohan has Piccolo train him in Krillin's gym for 6 hours. Can he beat Beerus?
>>
>>157412979
>Toppo is said to be a possible candidate as a god of destruction, is he stronger than beerus for you?
Shit comparison if SS2 Goku rivals a God of Destruction.
Then SSB should far surpass that.
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>>157412979
See >>157412824
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>>157412945
Me too, we could some fun stuff with sound webms.
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>>157413074
Again, prove me that Gowasu was thinking of Beerus

Also, nice comparison, gowasu's statement about merged zamasu's weakness is there for a reason.


So in the manga, was trunks retarded when he explained why zenkai can't work anymore for goku and vegeta?

>>157413113
See >>157412883
>>
>>157413048
>gowasu was thinking of beerus precisely when he stated that.

...he said SS2 Goku rivals a God of Destruction.
Guess what Beerus is? That's right a fucking God of Destruction. Right next to him aswell. So he could compare both of their Ki.
>>
>>157413159
see >>157411919
>>
>>157413159
>Again, prove me that Gowasu was thinking of Beerus
Right here >>157413184
>>
>>157413234
>>157413234
>>157413234
>>157413234
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>>157413184
>...he said SS2 Goku rivals a God of Destruction.
Yeah, beerus is the only god of destruction right?

The other don't exist right?

> So he could compare both of their Ki.
But he can't because beerus never displayed his strenght in front of him, unless you prove me that he did

Also, i'm talking about gowasu's statement of merged zamasu's weakness which is there for a reason

>>157413211
See >>157412883
>>
>>157413250
Wait for the bump limit retard
>>
>>157413250
Too early you idiot.
>>
>>157413254
See >>157411919
>>
>>157412930
Of course they don't, bland self insert girl and nu waifu all in one
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>>157413053
Only if there are poachers there as well and has Shin dance around him.
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>>157413335
See >>157412883

So in your logic, zamasu's tears should purify the world right?
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>>157413250
mods need to start dealing with this shit
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>>157413254
>Yeah, beerus is the only god of destruction right?
Where did I said that retard? You wanted proof Gowasu was talking about Beerus and he falls into the category of God of Destruction. Plus he's right next to him.


>But he can't because beerus never displayed his strenght in front of him
He doesn't have to, he was able to sense Merged Zamasu power before he even attacked yet.

Last (You) you're clearly delusional.
>>
>>157413469
That's what the report button is for. It's the only thing we can do unfortunately.
>>
>>157413383
>>157413451
See >>157412824
>>
>>157413481
>He doesn't have to, he was able to sense Merged Zamasu power before he even attacked yet
Yeah because merged zamasu was displaying his strenght.

Beerus can hold back.

Is bulma beerus's level?

>Last (You) you're clearly delusional.
Thank god, we don't need your retarded arguments, see >>157413451
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>>157412847
>>157412719
>>157412973
See ya next thread roomies, I'll try to make some OC soon
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>>157413542
>Yeah, zamasu's tears can purify the world
>Zamasu said it so he's right
Ok
>>
>>157413481
Merged zamasu showed his strenght, not beerus.

Remember the halo part?

The susanoo-like?
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>>157412909

I hate how Manga Gowasu is literally a retarded old man .
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>Before I join you monkeys in the tournament of power, I need to discuss the bonus situation with Lord Beerus
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A perfected base with god ki is on Tori's draft, PSSB is going in that direction, while Toei is already showing it.
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>>157413699
Anime*
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>>157413742
Manga Gowasu is also retarded, the guy tried to talk with a guy who killed the mankind.
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>>157412355
Maybe if Goku actually defeated his opponents, he would gain the exp necessary to level up.
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>>157413742

In the anime he explains some stuff that needed explanation, in the manga Shin does the explanation.
>>
>>157412930

Do they still exist? Its now Kale and Caulifla fans.
>>
>>157413842
Zenkai is basically EXP though
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>>157413863
No in the manga when has a long speech as well as show Zamasu the Babarian elder shaman. In the anime there was no wisdom.
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>>157414038
>no wisdom

Liar, the wisdom was better in the manga (because toyo has more time to write though) but there was a wisdom
>>
>>157413767
>who killed the mankind.
The irony
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>>157413901
>Kale and Caulifla fans
>fans of characters who barely did anything as of now
Those are just a bunch of bandwagonners who will forget about her when a new female shows up in the next arc. Only a few of them will actually become their fans.
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>>157414113
Barely any wisdom, a babarian attacked without them learning a lesson.
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>>157413977
Na, it's like a P2W option that raises your level when you lose to a boss
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>>157414185
They discussed after that you know
>>
>>157414220
>>157413977
It's like setting the difficulty lower after losing to the boss.
>>
>people pretending anime Gowasu was more than a meme about a senile oldman who loves tea and watchs youtube

kek
>>
>>157414177

You mean like Cocoa?
>>
Jiren is going to be next popular meme.

I bet he will constantly say evil, which would what "ningen" was to Zamasu.
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>>157414701
Like every single new female character.
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>>157405459
774
>>
>>157415064
what
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>>157405051
Vegeta's son banging kakarot's granddaughter is the ultimate revenge keikaku.
>>
>>157411710
At the time when Goku meets Yajirobe he's the strongest character in the story, but is a coward and afraid of Piccolo.
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