>you will never be a cute, anxious lesbian mangaka
A disgusting hellhole in /lgbt/ that gathers bitter female homosexual virgins who hate trannies and gays and cry for gfs but can't be bothered to fix themselves and become less autistic.
No actual female would ever say that when seeing another naked woman. That's why they complain all the time about high body standards in media
This makes me think the author it's actually a guy but changed the character to a girl to hide his identity
>all this shit taste
>waved off as a Tumblr hag lgbt shit comic
>thread discussion is mainly about how ugly the mangaka is
I'm not even a girl and I think you guys are pigs.
Anyways, I like the part where the prostitute looks for her hymen. I can see that happening with lessy virgin.
I could understand people comparing this manga with tumblr if she always played the victim while calling everyone around her hetenormative faggots or something like that. But from what I've read, this isn't the case.
She doesn't seem to care about the SJW agendas, l don't remember the manga having her complain about muh patriachy, etc.
And even if she often try to give some shitty psychology explanations for her failures, with some high doses of self-pity, she seems to be aware that she's also responsible for her failures, not society.
Wrong. The human body is quite disgusting when you compare the reality with the prettied up version the media presents.
I mean we are just basically intelligent animals that use our waste expulsion orifices to reproduce. We're smelly and hairy and dirty.
And, when it comes down to it, the person you end up spending the rest of your life with should also be your best friend. You'll both be attracted to each other no matter what.
That's not to say either of you should totally let yourselves go and become lazy fucks.
Don't say you shave and shower every single day.
If you say you do then you're a lying faggot.
We've all had days where we think "nah I can't be bothered today. I'll do it tomorrow."
>Don't say you [...] shower every single day.
That's just you, mate.
>skip shower once
>ha you are a lazy slob, just like me who doesn't shower!
>hold your breath once
>ha! That means you don't breathe!
>bitter female homosexual virgins who hate trannies and gays and cry for gfs
I tried reading it once and really, really didn't like it.
Are you supposed to feel sympathy for the main character? Maybe it's supposed to be funny? In any case, she just seemed like a pathetic bundle of issues that had it easy, but wanted to feel as though they had it tough.
So, I wonder if that's the point and you just have to read more, or if it's just not for me.
Still not seeing it.
All I said was you're lying if you say you shower literally every day, generally when shit like >>157409022 happens.
Or hey maybe you never leave the house and so wouldn't know what a long night out feels like.
It's supposed to be a self-insert for NEETs who wish they were cute japanese lesbians.
In >>157408718 it was said "if you don't shower every single day, you're literally a degenerate. It was obvious you shouldn't take it literally. He meant if you don't have the habit of taking shower, then you're literally a degenerate. Trying to make a point about how people might have once in their lives skipped shower is pure autism.
It was an interesting read. I felt a connection during the first 2-3 chapters, but then it started getting into more feminine stuff with her seeking out the lesbian prostitute. I can't relate to that.
Ending was unfulfilling.
The art was cute.
It's more about empathizing with it and how, all these problems we (the people who empathize with it and the author) have are not insurmountable, we still struggle to overcome them and have trouble solving them. It explores why we have trouble getting out of our mess snd making ourselves happy, as simple as it may seem to an outsider who's never had these problems
and >>157408718 was in response to >>157408676 where it says we have days where we think "I can't be bothered today I'll do it tomorrow" which wasn't implied as being an every day thought either. That too should have been obvious enough. But apparently it wasn't so I posted >>157409022
I guess as a person with very real, very scary problems (like my house falling apart, debt of family members, and family members with bad health) problems of the mind are difficult as fuck for me to resonate with. I just see it and think, "wow, what's wrong with you".
Admittedly depression, real depression and other things are chemical disorders that can't be helped, but I've still always found it very hard to sympathize or empathize.
At least it sounds optimistic so I may still want to give it a look.
Why do you care about how many times a person showers? 2D don't need to shower anyway.
This degenerate manga is tumblr in its most rotten form. A privileged life ruined by mental illness making it seem like actual pain. This disgusting author should go to Pakistan and see how women suffer for real. Lesbians are vile, selfish little brats who bring the whole world down.
This whole manga is just whining about her being an unloved (deservedly so) failure who never seeks to improve herself and just whines and whines. Degenerate freaks like her should be rounded up and put in mental asylums. No sympathy for this "person."
This is fetishization of destructive, anti-western society culture that says it's okay not only to be a perverted degenerate but also that it's okay to pretend to be mentally ill to be a societal leech.
I get it, and for people who have these problems it can feel like "well my life actually isn't that rough so why can't I make myself happy?". This manga is more about how you can get stuck in a rut and unable to get yourself out rather than facing more tangible difficulties. I think even the manga author makes the point in later chapters about for how shit they felt, a lot of their problems were solved by actually just doing what they wanted rather than doing what they thought others wanted from them.
>Normal human beings
Are there any normal people on this Tibetan basket weaving forum?
Reminder to never associate with people who:
>call everything they don't like tumblr
>gets offended at words like misogyny but says horseshit like women can't be lonely or depressed
>uses 4chan terminology outside of 4chan
It's nice to be nice.
We should hug now.
Plenty of girls around the world especially those with a career and education can relate to this manga.
Hell I showed this to a friend of mine that works at subway and she asked me if theres more comics that's like this.
It's not "degeneracy", its real life.
agree with the last one. people who can't keep to themselves are the true normies.
autist. i'll never understand why certain word just suddenly trigger you faggots so much. "cringe" and words like "toxic" were always used in this way, even if it was just used occasionally.
there is nothing at all special about the way people use it now.
Y'all seriously getting mad at the use of the word cringe?
you must be intolerable to be around.
I might go a saturday without showering if I'm not planning on leaving the house at the most.
Hey, me and >>157410954 were just trying to have a nice time.
Then some other guy came in and ruined the moment.
>You keep missing words out.
Please don't try to correct grammatical sentences, ESLkin
even a few days ago i saw a normal thread on this, filled with anons who actually read the manga. this is nothing but kneejerk reactions and buzzword spouting.
at least back in the fucking day when people complained about gaia it was anime related. now more and more dumb polshit comes up.
Serious for a moment, I blame anitwitter. Ironic weebs get directed here because /a/ content gets reposted on social media for easy attention, and for some reason, that shit is en vogue right now so there's an audience for it. There's been a sharp upswing of autistic obsession with /pol/shit and stupid memes lately, and it's entirely from twitter tourists coming here looking for shitpost fuel.
>at least back in the fucking day
You're either lying about how long you've been coming here, or your mental capacity hasn't gone any higher than that of a 12 year old. Capitalize your sentences at least if you want to fool people into thinking you're an adult.
I guess so, I would love to have a bunch of rl friends like me, we could play dnd together and maybe we could make one of use put on a skirt and service the others occasionally.
>maybe we could make one of use put on a skirt and service the others occasionally.
Is that how friendship is supposed to work?
Sign me up.
It's not gay if it's with friends, right?
>hurr durr ur stupid
good job anon, you wrote a whole bunch of nothing. at least tell me what exactly you disagree with
How well does that shower hold up 7 hours after you've had one on a hot summer day?
Real humans stink and have bad breath and their hair is coarse and gross. Even attractive people have regular ugly unpleasant moments throughout the day.
Actually, people who don't capitalize their sentences are better, since those who fo are more likely to be dirty phone posters than those who don't as phones capitalize sentences automatically
Anyone going to buy the English volume next month? Is Seven Seas Entertainment good?
Between this manga, the one with the gay parents and the other with the gay mc, trap and lesbians.
Is japan finally viewing homosexuality as something more than just a fetish?
This sort of content tends to invite people to compare their own life experiences against it. Lots of people have strong feelings about the subject matter as a consequence, whether they saw someone go through something similar, or went through something similar themselves. It doesn't help that the manga isn't particularly good. If you don't empathize with the protagonist then you might be inclined to find it masturbatory or self-indulgent.
It's incendiary for the way that it approaches a tender subject in a less-than-tactful manner. I'll be honest, the thing that stood out the most to me when I read it through the first time was the impression that the author had never considered other people may have ever gone through something similar to what she was describing.
Because I don't really care about japan outside manga and anime.
Let me rephrase it
>Are mangaka finally viewing homosexuality as something more than just a fetish?
Because they're too busy fucking their waifus on VR?
It was okay, had it's moments, but also a bit to much /r9k/ incel-eque bullshit for my taste. Ending was too happy, would have been better if it was basically a suicide note instead of ending on some overly optimistic "I'm living my dream now" crap.
it obviously depends on the person. but japan had other manga about these things before, just look at hourou musuko. a lot of yuri stuff too, not all of it is necessarily about the fetish.
It only seems overly optimistic because that's what a generally good life looks like after seeing through the lens of depression.
The author very clearly has depression and while she may explore it through her own experience it really is as she depicts it.
you're not a little girl? have you been bullshitting me all this time?
Lesbian for 2D girls sure, but can you really blame them?
>Implying most people, women especially, actually have depression when their use of "depression" is just as a superlative word for being sad
>Implying that the solution to most people's "loneliness" isn't more easily acquired by female persons
I don't disagree that most of the whining to that effect in this thread comes from faggots though.
This whole thread is little girls.
I'm 99% sure.
I want to headpat you all
against your will.
Life is objectively garbage.
She's also clearly not depressed, if she was seriously depressed the manga would consist of nothing but her lying in bed staring at the ceiling and occasionally working up the energy to eat something. She's sad because her life hasn't gone how she wants it to and other people don't love her. Classic case of dependent personality disorder.
>you have a shit opinion
>anon tells you it is so
>"why u mad tho"
It's just facts
That's like saying someone is mad because they said the sky is blue
Do you have dyslexia or some other disorder which makes it hard for you to comprehend the content of written information?
Because if you don't then please stop purposefully misrepresenting what I said I said "Most people" and "women especially" misuse the term depression. I never said "Women can't get depressed" or anything along the lines of that sentiment. The truth is it's much more socially acceptable for females than for males to claim to have "depression". Either for sympathy and attention or because they truly have no comprehension of it as a serious clinical disorder other than something akin to "feeling sad".
The way I see it a lot of the issues addressed were the kind of things I would see in the "baawwww" and "forever alone" threads on /r9k/ except coming from a female lesbo. Though admittedly the last time I visited that shithole [r9k] was almost 4 years ago so the resemblance may have changed.
>There's people in the world with worse problems with you so you cannot complain about your problems!
> "baawwww" and "forever alone" threads on /r9k/
Sounds like the old ronery threads we used to have tho. I wonder if some anons remain from that time or they all killed themselves
This. Tumblr-tier garbage fit only for the pill popping mentally ill.
If you like having periods of crying and screaming followed by arguing about yuri couples then this series, and the gas chamber, were made for you.
>She's also clearly not depressed
So self-harming, aneorexia, eating out of the trash and not being able to leave your room for days aren't considered traits of depression anymore? Do you have to straight up attempt to kill yourself to be considered depressed now?
None of those were ever symptoms or traits of depression actually, though one or two may sometimes have some co-morbidity overlap. Either you were lied to or you are quite badly mistaken with your armchair assumptions.
The last time I tried to voice my dislike of this manga I got banned, so I will just say that the artstyle feels very cartoony and amateurish, and I dislike the use of pink instead of grayscale.
Also suicide, contrary to popular belief, is actually much more strongly correlated with a sudden loss of social status or network size than it is with depression. People actively suffering serious depression rarely kill themselves (although once they begin to make an recovery, they may make an attempt once they begin to have the energy to act again). Even then most with clinical depression never actually make an attempt at suicide, those that do usually have another illness or disorder which contributes to their suffering and is the main trigger of an attempt.
depression IS another word for being sad to a certain degree. you're just taking "being sad" too lightly.
it's not something you can judge or see easily for others, or do you think laying in bed all day is the only thing that counts for "real depresson"? not everybody deals or can afford to deal with it in the same way.
I've been depressed before and if i made a manga about that, it wouldn't be about me laying in bed all day (and believe me i did). it's just not the interesting part. in fact it would definitely be about the parts where i did not do that.
>I never said "Women can't get depressed" or anything along the lines of that sentiment.
the sentiment is there.
you're implying that they don't tend to get as sad as we do. that they tend to claim depression randomly for brownie points.
have you ever seen anyone do that? male or female? what is this "truth" of yours based on?
"truth" is, females are twice more likely to get diagnosed with depression. diagnosed, not like your hearsay fantasy headcanon.
there is a room for error but how much do you think it can be?
either way it would fit with the difference between male and female bodies/hormones.
Your single point of anecdotal evidence doesn't trump statistical evidence from broad studies on outcomes of clinical depression, as well as studies on suicide.
Also you apparently seem to be claiming you have committed suicide, and that were true you wouldn't be here to post about it.
I have similar social anxiety problems... worst part is i want a social life, but i just don't fit in with normies, i want to hang out with fellow weirdos who talk shit about games, anime, and whatever.
Though in a lot of ways it's not much different to normies, just... different icebreakers and connections.
>depression IS another word for being sad to a certain degree
Nope. Serious clinical depression involves much more than feeling sad, some of the more serious symptoms include severe motor retardation and an inability to act inline with even simple every day actions like eating. Serious cases of clinical depression can often result in hospitalization because of how bad some of these symptoms can get.
>you're just taking "being sad" too lightly.
Sorry, but I'm not going to condone your medicalization of one of the most common human emotions to use to justify you're own whining. You're basically using a real and serious condition to make your suffering seem more legitimate. It's as if I said I had "terrible lacerations" when I got a papercut. It's simply disingenuous.
>you're implying that they don't tend to get as sad as we do.
Once again depression =/= sadness.
>have you ever seen anyone do that? male or female?
All the fucking time. Spend an hour on any of the blogging boards and you'll see people claiming to be depressed at the drop of a hat for utterly trivial reasons (even if the reasons weren't trivial that would still be sadness and not depression which is a serious brain condition which doesn't have a specific "reason" for happening besides the underlying genetic and environmental causes)
>females are twice more likely to get diagnosed with depression. diagnosed,
Oh, if they say they are sad and some shrink says they might be depressed I guess that solves that.
Oh wait, actually no. Even ignoring the fact that females are very much more likely to seek medical help for mental issues, and there is less stigma for a female to have depression than a male. Psychological diagnostic tools rely so heavily on self reporting and are ever so biased based on the opinion of the practitioner, it's a miracle that they are ever right. If you'd ever been to more than one shrink you'd know just how completely worthless they are at actually diagnosing any real condition. Actual doctors who spend years getting their MDs misdiagnose 20% of the time, and that's based on medical tests, mental "doctors" are less rigorously trained, and they don't even have proper diagnostic tools beyond self reporting, combine that with the completely bullshit wishy washy diagnostic manuals they read off of and you get a recipe to diagnose anyone for almost anything so long as someone is footing the bill.
It's going to be hilarious to see how the quacks check out once fMRI and genetics based tests go into common use and start to pinpoint disease markers and we find out how often they were just pulling shit out of their collective asses.
>depression is caused by female hormones
So, you have literally no idea what you are talking about? OK got it, sorry for taking you seriously so far.
Because all of the badass oldfags were reading this shit released less than a year ago way back in the day on old /a/, huh?
If you were a neet virgin girl who only read boys love manga and had NO idea how to have sex other than dick in pussy means you did it and thats all there is, reality comes crashing in pretty hard.
You have no idea how true this actually is.
I think the people actually upset and saying it's not something they can relate to and she's a fucking retard etc legit have a problem with women. Like pushed in the trash and pissed on high school level therapy shit to deal with. So some ugly chick wrote a manga I don't personally like, who gives a fuck?
>legit have a problem with women
Well obviously. Most people on this website hate women and are deeply, resentfully bitter towards them to the point that they refuse to consider women might do or feel anything unrelated to getting Chad's dick.
I don't think they experienced anything particularly negative at the hands of women except women fucking people other than them.
You may be 3DPD and an old hag, but if you actually love lolis, then you're alright on my book.
Don't worry anon, I'm only here for the 2D perfection like everyone else on this board.
>Insinuating the majority of the users of this website are people who hate women for no reason
I wonder who could be behind this post.
It was you all along wasn't it, anon?
You almost had me there.
I dunno, maybe? Can you be more specific about the charges officer?
This girl said you touched her butt?
I suffer from a rare condition called "molseteritus" It causes my hands to wander and molest anime girls butts. I cannot help it, I'm so sorry.
>Serious clinical depression
yeah no. that description sounds like something out of a movie. that's not the only degree of depression there is. you don't have to become a ghostlike person to be depressed. and you don't NECESSARILY need severe motor retardation to be depressed. it should be obvious, but you seem to have this image in your head for what you consider "real" or "serious" depression.
>you'll see people claiming to be depressed at the drop of a hat for utterly trivial reasons
it doesn't actually matter what they claim. much less what you think about their claims made online.
>which is a serious brain condition which doesn't have a specific "reason" for happening besides the underlying genetic and environmental causes
so you understand this, and yet you search for their "reasons" and call them trivial and dismiss their claim to depression based on that.
don't you see the problem with this? you can't have it both ways.
>Even ignoring the fact that females are very much more likely to seek medical help for mental issues
not that much more. maybe around 10%.
and no matter how underdeveloped their field is, they still understand a lot more about this than you. you seem to think you are less of a quack than them.
just because they suck doesn't mean your trash theories are anywhere near correct.
this is why i brought up your mother and sister in the beginning.
have you ever seen anybody do this for "sympathy and attention"? what exactly would be the point in that?
again, i'm sure it happens. but as with all polshit, you have to wonder how much it happens and how much it DOES NOT.
would your female relatives, colleagues do something that pointless?
>depression is caused by female hormones
a lot of things are caused ultimately by hormones. i'm just pointing out the difference between male/female bodies. there is no reason both should be equally susceptible to depression.
>My use of depression is valid, depression doesn't actually have to mean anything specific, it can mean what I want it to mean.
Yeah I guess if you redefine everything to be whatever you want then depression doesn't have to actually mean depression, it can mean chair, purple, or anything you wish. The sky is the limit, just a few hours ago I had depression(cold cuts) for lunch!
>doesn't actually matter
Oh yeah I guess since it proves your point wrong it no longer matters.
> yet you search for their "reasons" and call them trivial and dismiss their claim to depression based on that.
No you stupid piece of shit, the point is if they actually had it they wouldn't fucking state a reason because there wouldn't be one. People who go on about reasons for why they are "depressed" are only trying to increase the importance of their otherwise minor issues by co-opting the serious nature of the real illness.
>not that much more. maybe around 10%.
Even we granted that it was only ~10%, and to be clear I do not accept that it is, it's still just one of many factors which skews the numbers.
>they still understand a lot more about this than you.
Freud was once an expert, and time has proven him categorically false time spent on something doesn't imply any real understanding.
>have you ever seen anybody do this for "sympathy and attention"?
Yes I have, but you already dismissed that as not "mattering".
> what would be the point?
Getting sympathy and attention quite obviously, most people desperately crave such things.
So not agreeing with whiny faggots and their use of a serious debilitating disease to legitimize their own malaise and disaffection for their lives is now "polshit". Yeah, fuck you.
Yeah more than a few of them probably would and I know at least one of them has.
>Hormones must be to blame, I clearly do not understand genetics
If you don't know what you are talking about please just keep your mouth shut.
I want to smell her when she didn't take a bath or change underwear for days.
Looks like a waste of time and shit. I'll even give FlipShitters the benefit of the doubt with this monstrosity.
>xerself is a transtrender made up pronoun also a nice way to tell when /pol/ is escaping containment since them canada and tumblr are the only ones spastic enough to give a shit
As an actual medical student clinical depression is more common in females and men are more likely to kill themselves.
I don't know why anyone would do this for attention as danger to self is one of the criterion for involuntary hospital admission.
So why is this thread full of spergs who are freaking out over a dysfunctional woman having problems?
Things like having no friends, being a hikki and having severe social anxiety have a severe inpact on mental health, but chances are if you have the above problems you're already crazy and making it worse.
I have all three, but I still admit I don't have any actually "serious problems".
>Sever impact on mental health
Only if you are a weak person with no internal compass. Though mental health is a social construction based on normative judgements anyways so it's not like it's actually a real thing in the first place.
It made me realize I had no real reason I was buying those things. I really only enjoyed the process of doing price comparisons, item examinations, ordering things and then unboxing them.
Then I was just left with things I can't really use (or sell/return) and a lack of money.