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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

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Arc 4 has been completely translated by TLanon.
>Total // 1650 pages, 636,107 words
The absolute madman did it after 7 months and 23 days.

https://mega.nz/#!AR8mCJbI!9nh6qM3p8Ylc6nwBLc5tNLJm5ZV0nNorOszUuSQRm6g
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>>157364853
Holy fuck, <8 months is all it took?

Can't wait for Arc 5, there's no translation of it whatsoever, only several of paragraphs of 2 chapters.

Also, is that how Shaula is described in Arc 6? Wasn't expecting a babe
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>>157365144
>Also, is that how Shaula is described in Arc 6?
Yes. She's also seemingly kind of an idiot.
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>>157364853
>Arc 4 has been completely translated by TLanon.
>The absolute madman did it after 7 months and 23 days.
I didn't at all mind the length. It was nice.
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>>157364853
I'm surprised the last phase was actually the longest, but it did have two 40 page chapters after all.
While the loops definitely could have been shortened, the last stretch is easily at least as good as Arc 3s. I would say it actually felt a lot more satisfying since we were focusing on a lot of old characters that were missing out during the prior Arcs.
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>>157362363
Yeah saving some random villagers and Emilia and helping her become the country's ruler is worth way more than sacrificing a happy future with the guy she loves, getting nom'ed and being forgotten by everyone except Subaru (Rem would have been so done for if Subaru also forgot about her so lucky for her there), leaving her lover broken and depression prone due to her loss, seeing him suffer to no end as he wants to keep the "Rem's hero" promise, right?
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>>157366181
This entire post doesn't have anything to do with her reasons for not running away, and why would you mention random villagers and Emilia and leave out saving her own bloody sister
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>>157366346
>This entire post doesn't have anything to do with her reasons for not running away
Yes it does. Rem was too dumb and chose to lead her and Subaru to endless sufferings instead of giving Subaru and herself a much better future.

>leave out saving her own bloody sister
Losing Ram would be a huge loss to Rem but it is still minimal compared to the sufferings she's been given after rejecting Subaru's offer to run away. Saving Ram is not worth it because she doesn't even remember who Rem is and even wants to sacrifice her for Roswaal's sake.
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ignore the shitposter
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>>157366851
Alright whatever
So how long does Arc 6 look like it'll go?
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I would buy you a beer if I could summary anon.
Cheers
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>>157366851
Saying Rem was dumb to choose sufferings over her own happiness is not shitposting.
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>>157367177
I would cosplay as _Otto_ and give him a good fuck.
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>>157367081
every arc has about 4 loops, not sure how often they died in arc 6 yet
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>>157367081
No imminent or urgent threat has appeared, so everyone is just sort of chilling and talking. Subaru died a few times on the way to the tower, but there wasn't really much to figure out there. Those loops lasted less than an hour.

Reid doesn't even seem particularly hostile and has no real interest in killing them. So right now, that's just kind of how things are. They're just looking around and finding challenges, but have no particular pressure to get it done quickly.
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>>157367223
you're acting like she knew what would happen after killing the whale, fuck off shitposter
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>>157367223
Rem wasn't even informed on what sufferings lay in store. She just knew Subaru had a miasma attack and freaked out, and seems to have some suspicions about Subaru's preternatural knowledge of events. Basically, she was just asking Subaru to let her help him with whatever was troubling him.
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>>157367279
She didn't need to wait until after the white whale fight to suffer. The moment she rejected Subaru's offer and heard him say "I love Emilia" to her is already the beginning of her endless sufferings.
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>>157367498
you think that getting rejected is worse than running away and giving up? well.
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The anime ends in what Arc?
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>>157367665
right before the end of arc 3
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>>157367665
Right before the end of Arc 3, because they pussied out.
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>>157367619
>getting rejected
And giving up on a future where she would be happy with the man she loves. It is worse than returning to the mansion where countless dangers and sufferings await her and Subaru yes.
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>>157367278
>no particular pressure
That sure is different from the rest of the arcs
>mfw Tappei finds a way to make it as long as Arc 4
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>>157367809
>with the man she loves

>[Rem: Because I know that if I run away together with you right now…..it’ll definitely feel like I’d be leaving behind the Subaru-kun that I love the most.]
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>>157367928
They ARE very happy in the Rem If anon.
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>>157367983
you are again acting like she knows the future
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>>157364853
Fantastic
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>>157364853
I have not enough words to thank summaryanon. So just thank you and I await for your summaries of Arc 5. Godspeed, anon.
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>>157364853
Is there a point where the editing quality gets noticeably better?

On ch27 and it's kinda hard to read.
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>>157367896
Well, there wasn't any particular pressure when everyone first came to Sanctuary either. So it can either continue the way it has, with people talking and shit and carefully planning their next move at their leisure, or something will come up which forces them to pick up the pace.
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>>157368041
>Rem still loved Subaru even if he gave up, as shown in Rem If.
>Subaru wanted to run away with only her and would likely become dependent on her afterwards.
No Rem doesn't need to know the future to realize she made a huge mistake by rejecting Subaru's offer to elope with him.
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>>157364853

Do we have a compilation of all of the Arc 4 translation?
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>>157368405
>https://mega.nz/#F!VNdzDYYK!nK9fNU3LeprlZSbRAnlsRg
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>>157368303
>Subaru wanted to run away with only her
except he didn't really want to run away, that's why she rejected him. You can make the argument that she made the wrong decision if the story ends with her having a bad end but not half way through where everything is still open and she could get a better ending than the RemIf
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>>157368453

many thanks, Anon
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>>157368091
Take it as a summary instead of an actual word-to-word translation.
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>>157368091
you shouldn't complain

this nigga did all this for fucking free
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>>157368560
My point still stands that she chose suffering over living a happy life with Subaru, regardless of her ending at the end of the story.
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>>157369943
Not complaining, in fact I'm really grateful. I'm just wondering if the editing gets better is all.
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>>157367223
Being ESL and commenting on things you've never read by way of parroting the other dumb shit morons around here have said for no reason than to talk shit is shitposting.
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>>157370156
>Chooses not to run away
>Gets I love Emilia'd
>Get put into a coma and literally can't suffer
Other than having her heart hurt turning down his offer has done nothing in particular in regards to suffering. Oh, and running away with him left her with terrible scars because she blames herself for letting her sister die, which you seem to think ranks below letting some random kids or Emilia die, thinks she's a nearly worthless replacement for Emilia that doesn't deserve happiness and actively tries to forget her own birthday because she doesn't feel like she deserves to celebrate it. She's had happy moments too, but IF Rem suffered far worse than potato has.

Whether that will remain true is unknown, but saying that the only time Rem ever suffered was during and after From Zero and so she deserves it is idiotic, because she barely suffered at all for that.
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>>157370922
Around chapter 40 it starts shifting out of heavy summary
From phase 3 onward there were passes in the phase pdfs to get rid of typos and really blatant 'oops I forgot what sentence I was writing', but there's never any real editing
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WHERE IS THE KNIGHTING SCENE
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>>157371755
chapter 7 of the sidestory between arc 4 and 5
hence why the sidestory isn't getting skipped
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>>157371840
Why most of the sidestory isn't getting skipped
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>>157371625
I see, thanks anon.
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>>157371533
>she barely suffered at all for that.
>barely
Including giving up on life the moment she was about to die?
>I wish when he realizes I am gone, it could cause a small ripple in his heart.
>—This alone, was what Rem wished for in her final moment.
Not to mention her name and memory are in jeopardy right now and there's a very little chance they will be fully recovered so saying she doesn't suffer is a bit ridiculous. Oh and I guess she would feel very happy about becoming a potato and sleeping all day while Subaru is in trouble and even being suggested as a sacrifice by her own sister. Oh and as I said here, Subaru also suffers because of Rem
>leaving her lover broken and depression prone due to her loss, seeing him suffer to no end as he wants to keep the "Rem's hero" promise
All could have been avoided if Rem agreed to elope with Subaru and have a happy family with him.
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>>157372536
are you an emiliafag? the logic you use is not comprehensible
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Does anybody know when TLanon continues with arc 5?
Is there even a way to contact him?
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>>157372763
It certainly doesn't sound as absurd as
>Get put into a coma and literally can't suffer
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>>157372917
he's right though, Rem doesn't suffer while she's asleep, only Subaru and Remfags suffer from her being in coma
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>>157372917
Are you joking? She literally can't. She doesn't have a brain. You claim she will never even wake up, so she literally can't suffer ever because of that in your mind. The dead don't suffer, and if you don't think she'll ever be recovered then she's defacto dead.
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>>157368091
Have you read the Chicken's chapters?
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>>157373027
>>157373028
Oh so being put into a coma and no longer being able to do protect those she loves is not suffering? Okay then. Didn't know people love being in coma until now.
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>>157362363

Thank you so much bro.

Do you happen to be the same person who gave me the EX1 epub?
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>>157364853
Never read this and never will, but even considering the probably very low quality source material, there s absolutely no way to deliver a good quality TL in that amount of time.
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>>157373163
Guess you don't understand what suffering is
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>>157364853
Hell yes, time to pick the series up again.
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>>157373039
Yeah, that's where I'm coming off from. His releases are insanely slow though.
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>>157373307
https://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6
Read the Arc 3 Interludes and all the available Arc 4 chapters on Translationchicken and then move to anon is my advice.
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>>157373163
>Didn't know people love being in coma until now.
They don't love or hate it. A conscious person doesn't want to be put in a coma, and a person who wakes up from a coma will be sad/annoyed/angry at the time they lost while in one. A person IN a coma has no opinion about their condition, because they don't have opinions at all.
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>>157373387
Alright.
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>>157373288
>>157373413
Please learn to read between the lines goddamn it. You are talking as if Rem is happy about getting nom'ed and being an useless potato with rare chance of being revived. She doesn't feel the pain and suffering now, BUT she will get traumatized the fuck out the moment she wakes up and learns about everything that happened to those she loves in her absence and how they were all caused by her.
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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
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>>157373603
>BUT she will
now you're just assuming stuff, nobody is gonna blame her for anything and she has no reasons to blame herself as well

you're also contradicting your initial point by saying "now she can't protect those she loves and therefor she suffers" because running away with Subaru meant Ram's death
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>>157373603
For one, you don't think she'll wake up at all.
Two, the few times you mention she maybe might you say she'll be broken or won't have her memories anyway, so she won't care.
Three, you said earlier that potential future happiness doesn't matter, so potential future suffering doesn't matter either and isn't relevant here.
Four, we're talking about current suffering or actual suffering she has been through, which she currently doesn't and her previous suffering has nothing to do with her choice here
Also finally and most importantly, Rem can be not happy about being a potato all she wants, she would be infinitely less happy with having let her sister die.
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>>157373773
>she has no reasons to blame herself as well
Oh she'll probably do that, since she wished something sort of dumb when she thought she was dying. Its really just her nature to think that way. Subaru and Ram will probably slap the stupid shit out of her though because they'll just be happy she's back.
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>>157373903
I didn't say she won't blame herself but that she has no reasons to blame herself. Subaru will just headbutt her again and good is
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>>157373773
>because running away with Subaru meant Ram's death
>Losing Ram would be a huge loss to Rem but it is still minimal compared to the sufferings she's been given after rejecting Subaru's offer to run away.

>>157373836
>For one, you don't think she'll wake up at all.
She will wake up but most likely in a very fucked up way.

>she'll be broken or won't have her memories anyway, so she won't care.
So she is suffering from the possibility of losing her name, memories, or both, isn't she?

>potential future happiness doesn't matter
It does matter. That's why I say her choosing a future full of sufferings over a happy one is so dumb.

>her previous suffering has nothing to do with her choice here
It does.
>All could have been avoided if Rem agreed to elope with Subaru and have a happy family with him.

>she would be infinitely less happy with having let her sister die.
c >>157366625
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>>157374133
>Losing Ram would be a huge loss to Rem but it is still minimal compared to the sufferings she's been given after rejecting Subaru's offer to run away.
>compared to the sufferings she's been given
what sufferings are you talking about? Rem would prefer any suffering over her sister's death
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>>157374096
I hope they'll even get a "Reason to Believe" moment
>>157374133
>That's why I say her choosing a future full of sufferings over a happy one is so dumb.
Geez, so Subaru should have just become Roswaal?
As much as he's suffering, I don't think it cancels out the happiness he feels hanging out with his friends.
I like how they risk going for the most ideal future even if they have to struggle for it
>>157373209
Nah, I just remembered cause you compiled the birthday list for me.
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nani?
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>>157374215
>getting nom'ed permanently.
>being forgotten by everyone, abandoned even by her own sister.
>becoming an useless potato and burden to everyone.
>making people risk their life to wake her up.
Rem is devastated due to Ram's loss BUT she still lives very happily in Rem If. That Rem has a much better future than the potato Rem whose future is still uncertain and undecided.
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>>157374507
ugh, fuck off shitposter reading your shit is getting annoying
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>>157374507
>seless potato and burden to everyone.
>>making people risk their life to wake her up.
Do you seriously think all this is worse than having the feeling of having let your sister die?
If she can be happy in that kind of future she can be happy in MU too
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>>157374576
That is now how you make a comeback to end this argument.
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>>157374651
I would argue with you if your arguments would have any weight but they are just empty and you seems to be like that type of person who will come up with more shit the more the discussion lasts so yeah I've lost interest
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Fixed this one up a bit since last time.
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>>157374910
So on to useless potato times!
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>>157374627
>If she can be happy in that kind of future she can be happy in MU too
No one says she can't be happy in the MU, but the amount of suffering given to her and Subaru due to Rem's choice in From Zero is much bigger and will only become more disastrous in the future. Running away and letting Ram die are BAD, but at least Subaru and Rem still can secure a much better future for themselves.
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>>157374950
NEET rage!

Strange that she has a license, but Ram doesn't.
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>>157374963
you seem to be a very veeeery selfish person, Rem would hate you
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>>157375006
that's so ooc but still funny af
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>>157375006
Rem is cute.
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>>157364853
>she looks like crusch but better.
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>>157374963
Well I hope you'll have a nice life
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>>157375048
According to the author, that's the point.
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>>157375009
Take a look at her now and ask yourself if you want to become like her? Being nice and selfless won't get you anywhere.
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>>157375146
Forgot picture.
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>>157375180
I'll do that at the end of the series
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>>157375183
Planning to get all the other 10 or so done.
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>>157375180
>Take a look at her now and ask yourself if you want to become like her?
If I could become even half the person she is that would be amazing ;_;
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>>157375230
Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of Rem:NEET!
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>>157375310
it's so cute and weird, I need more!
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>>157374501
what is she saying?
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>>157375359
Husbando on TV!

I'll get you more later.
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>>157375435
it's like the re:zero characters are actors and Rem became a neet because of her non existing screen time in arc 4
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>>157364853
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>>157375888
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>>157376162
Is that a nipple?
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>>157376162
>Roswaal fucking someone who's mentally 8 years old

Could be funny
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>>157376162
>>157376187
Yup, thats clearly a nipple
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>>157376162
>Emilia takes the clown cannon in her ass
what a slut
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>>157376162
DELET
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>>157375888
Is there any similar pact between master (Roswaal) and maids (Rem and Ram) in that doujin? I'd love a sequel to it.
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>>157376527
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When will Julius jump off the tower?
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>>157376726
Soon.
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>>157376695
STOP !
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>>157377333
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>>157377333
How does it even fit in there so easily? Her asshole must've been well trained, or perhaps its natural, as expected of slutty elf genes.
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>>157376162
Source?
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Reminder that Ram will chew Subaru out
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>>157377636
>>157377661
ERASE THIS
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>>157378211
Think about Subaru's line before he kissed her, where he says if she doesn't want it she should dodge. He thinks its innocent enough, but forceful, but she thinks 'it' here would refer to a baby in her tummy. She still doesn't really know what to think of Subaru at this point, and she still doesn't dodge. That's elf genetics at work right there.
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>>157349527
>>157350407
thank you anons, sorry for answering that late

but it seems the pastebin is down
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>>157364853
Jesus, that thing was long. Are the other arcs like that too?
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>>157378701
No, arc 5 is much shorter, who knows about arc 6 though, but probably not.
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>>157368091
Some are better, some are worse. Gotta keep in mind that the guy was churning out a chapter a day for a long while.
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>>157375888
How comes no Beakofag has complained about her not being in the doujin? Do they not want doujin of her or something?
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>>157378673
It's not down.
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>>157378885
I'm pretty sure Betty has as many or more doujins as Emilia, and they're mostly solo whereas Emilia usually has to share.
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Anally annihilating Beatorisu.
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>>157378994
now I'm confused
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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>>157379890
Don't be silly, spirits don't poop
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How would the kids from the village react if they know Rem was reluctant to save them in arc 2? Would they still love her?

How would the villagers and Emilia react if they know Subaru in fact gave up on saving them and almost let them die in arc 3? Would they still love him?

Aren't those two a bit too similar?
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>>157375418
>Roswaal mansion
>Past 9 a.m.

>Natsuki subaru-san was in love with emilia at first sight

>Rem: It was a big shock
>Rem: but as long as he's happy i'm OK.
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>>157381747
forgot, emilia's mention is actually "Emilia-sama"
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>>157381580
She wasn't particularly reluctant to save them, she was reluctant to get lead around by bullshit from some stinky guy. Bad shit is going down and the most suspicious guy that just showed up could very well be leading her into a trap that would get a lot more people killed, but she decides to trust that he's not just fucking around because of how he answers her question.
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>>157377636
Definitely pregnant after that.
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anime only fag here.

is it wierd that i cry at the parts where he just cant take it and cries his frustrations out?

poor guy
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>>157381945
that means you have empathy or you're self inserting. either way you're enjoying isekai how one should.
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>>157381945
I cried everytime I saw Rem ded
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>>157364853
>636,107 words
That's pretty impressive, I didn't expect this arch alone to be significantly longer than The Lord of the Rings even as a "summary".
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>>157375518
Well, at least she's awake and has a boyfriend who's entirely devoted to her.
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>>157382093
you also gotta consider how this arc has been cut into 3 light novels already, had content removed, and it's still missing a Loop so we will definitely see another volume coming out.
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>>157381945
You might be gay, but that's okay
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>>157373603
this
>having the feeling of having let your sister die?
she didn't know about the witchcult and subaru told her this after from zero, so can't really blame her for that
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>>157383334
>Replying to yourself hours later because everyone started ignoring your dumb shit
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>>157374365
>I like how they risk going for the most ideal future even if they have to struggle for it
Seems like their belief now is "as long as I can breathe, I will keep fighting, pressing on and strive for the future where everyone can laugh and smile." That's perhaps why Rem refused to let Subaru give up on everyone and run away from his problems. Would be very tragic if Rem ends up dying and Subaru has to his lesson that is sometimes he just can't protect everything the hard way.
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I've been reading TranslationChicken's-- is there a hub for TL anon or a complete mega for all of vol4?
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>>157384736
read the thread.
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>>157381945
Youre going to love Arc 4.

I cried like a bitch when he took the 2nd trial.
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>>157375435
Some bitch is trying to make a move on Rem's husbando/boyfriend.
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>>157385044
I feel like Subaru probably blushed around Felix before learning the truth and killing his boner forever
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>>157385044
>NEET's boyfriend is a celebrity.
How?
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>>157385202
I'll get you the answer to that as soon as I can, though it's actually kind of hilarious that she has a body pillow of her own boyfriend.
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>>157385202
NTR Doujin Logic
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>>157385202
Idol culture, remember, there are tons of NEETs who like cute girls/boys
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>>157385250
This whole thing is kind of funny, but mostly just confuses me, Rem has one of the strongest work ethics in the whole series. You basically have to force her to take time off and it still makes her uncomfortable, how would she wind up as a NEET?
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>>157385318
She works intensively (at watching every show Subaru-kun is in, writing self-insertion fanfic, and fangirling about him on messageboards)
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>>157385297
They seem to be an actual couple in that comic though. Or I might be wrong here.
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>>157385363
Obviously it was Rem who from zero'd Subaru from being a highschool dropout into a famous actor
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>>157385363
You're not wrong. They're an actual fucking couple. Rem has a body pillow of her own boyfriend.
>>157385318
There are a few hints about that, like how Rem has a driver's license while Ram doesn't.
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>>157385403
That's actually pretty close.
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Did Rem wake up yet? Did Subaru stop being a broken man and got the love of his life back?
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Since Echidna is so infinitely curious about everything, do you think she's sought the knowledge of what it feels like to be mating pressed by a huge furry with a spiked cock?
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>>157386650
Why do you think she created sanctuary?
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>>157386060
Nope
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>>157386689
That'll only nab her half a furry
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>>157386060
>Did Rem wake up yet?
Not yet. But seeing Subaru memeflirt with Emilia constantly almost makes me want Rem to not wake up so that she wouldn't feel hurt by Subaru's cockiness and arrogance.
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>>157387676
He's sort of been awkward about it, and Ram has taken notice and gets on his case about it. Ultimately the memeflirting is usually a cry for help and he starts doing it when conversations go to topics he'd rather not think about.
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>>157376695
>They didn't translate the full version
One job guys
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>>157388005
Link to the full version is already posted in the comment section so hopefully they will translate the whole thing.
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>>157387638
Nah. It's a disposal site for all the half-furries she gets after she's done experimenting.
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>>157387843
>topics he'd rather not think about.
Such as? Why doesn't he just go "Okay, listen. I don't want to talk about this subject so let's just drop it" instead of resorting to memeflirting and acting like a douchebag?
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>>157388252
Rem for one, also because he is a douchbag.
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>>157388252
Well Subaru is a douchebag.
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>>157364853
Truly a god amongst men
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>>157386689
Breeding probably
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They got moved up
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>>157364853
This is Shaula, she loves her Fugel

Say something nice about her
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>>157391091
She has nice tits.
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>>157391091
Reid would fuck that
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>>157391798
Girls want the sage cock though
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>>157392205
What they want doesn't matter, they're gettin' the club
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Why are Rem and Beako the only ones that can smell Subaru's witch scent?
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>>157392430
Puck and Lewes also can. And mabeasts. It seems witch related things can, and maybe some spirits, because Pete also could. Feel free to speculate on what that means for Rem.
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>>157371840
What sidestory is this?
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>>157390810
That looks about right
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>>157391091
Who?
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>>157394087
Not Rem anon, Shaula.
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>>157364853
All hail summary anon, the champion we do not deserve, but need.
Do we know whether he has any plans to translate Arc 5?
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>>157384865
thank god i chanced upon this thread
if i didn't i wouldn't have gotten my hands on the tl's
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>>157395645
He does, and the arc 4 interludes. As well as arc 6 and all further installments.
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>>157395712
Well these threads pop up like every few days anyway.
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>>157381580
I just wanna know how Petra will act once she regains her memories and realizes it was Rem who saved her.
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>>157396509
Inb4 everyone's memories are overwritten again
>what do you mean Rem was in a coma?
>she was with us all this time
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>>157395712
see >>157373387
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I thought Ul- spells were the highest tier judging by the anime, but the WN/LN makes it that Al- spells are the highest. The hell's going on?
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>>157396569
That's fucked up
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>>157396569
I wonder ho Subaru would react to that
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>>157392496
I'm telling you people Rem is one of the Archbishops
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>>157398611
>Rem
>Archbishops
She's pretty weak and gets wrecked by numerous things so I don't think so. And even if Rem is an Archbishop, would would her sin be then?
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>>157398921
Pride. Except she's proud of her sister.
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>>157398921
>She's pretty weak and gets wrecked by numerous things
eh, not really

Also bishops don't have to be strong, see Petelgeuse
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>>157399118
The White Whale killed her. The mabeasts injured her pretty badly. Ley one shot her. Petelgeuse destroyed her. So yeah she's weak.
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>>157399279
Petel got one shotted by everything too. His only strength was his authority. If Rem got an authority she would shit all over him.
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>>157399279
Anyone who can solo the whale is classified as top tier of the entire setting, a lot of strong characters would be killed by the whale

She would have wiped the mabeasts even if Subaru and Ram didn't intervene

What happened with Ley in detail is still unknown

Almost anybody who doesn't know about the invisible hands would be destroyed, also Rem was severely weakened by fighting OP cultists
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>>157364853
Where can I find all the translations?
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>>157399644
Read the thread.
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>>157399496
>fighting OP cultists
Aren't they just like typical grunts? Julius and Wilhelm even made no effort to kill them while Rem had to struggle a lot.
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>>157376162
Delet
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>>157399714
In the Novels the cultist under Petelgeuse were ridiculously strong, one of them uprooted a tree and senti it flying with a simple slap
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>>157396918
Highest is definitely Al
>>157399714
>Julius and Wilhelm
Well, it's Julius and Wilhelm
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>>157396509
>>157396569
>>157397493
I think they'll go the "conscious but forgotten" route. If any of you remember, Emilia's "future" trial talked about meeting someone and regretting ever meeting them.
And he also supposedly saw Rem waking up, commenting at the end that she'd like to meet her, obviously not knowing who she is since she was potato'd.
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>>157400634
she also*
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>>157399714
Rem had to kill 20+ of them by herself.
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>>157396569
I doubt it would work anything like that. They'll recover their memories, but also know they had a period of time where they didn't remember Rem and thought/said/did things they might regret once they remember, especially in Ram's case.
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>>157399118
All Archbishops are strong. Pete has killed we and entire group in WN one loop. Knowing how their abilities work has all been required to be them. However this disparity between each individual member.

>>157399496
>She would have wiped the mabeasts even if Subaru and Ram didn't intervene

Except she almost got killed for it and was even without facing Meili's boss dog. That's why Roswaal wiping them all out including the boss demon beast without a sweat is even more impressive comped to Rem was struggling for most part.

>What happened with Ley in detail is still unknown

She lost what is there to know? Even Julius basically lot Roy in Arc 5 and he had had help. You think Rem by herself would have done better?

>Rem was severely weakened by fighting OP cultists

There aren't OP. Their were losing to your average well trained knights in Arc 3 and the Fang of Iron. Witch Cultists are only deadly in numbers otherwise it's Archbishops who the real power.
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>>157400827
Nee-sama would get traumatized the fuck out by her thought of abandoning Rem and making her a sacrifice in arc 4 once she remembers Rem again.
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>>157374501
>reference of this fyi
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>>157401095
Considering that was a failed loop, I highly doubt that.
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>>157401029
Oh look, its ESL here to talk out of his ass some more about shit he knows nothing about. Regale us with the tales of arcs 4 and 5 which you've never read and the amazing insights you got speedwatching the anime.
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So in the latest chapter Julius heard the whole conversation about Scarfdona talking about how she's maintaining herself by using Anastasia's OD, and that if they don't do something soon Anastasia will literally die.

You don't think he's going to be reckless yet again in order to try and save Anastasia right?
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>>157401686
Nah, he's perfectly calm there's no way he'd do something reckless or crazy.
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>>157401029
>Witch Cultists are only deadly in numbers
No, some of them are pretty strong individually. Also, I'm pretty sure knights aren't the common soldiers of the country. They're the elite. The hand-to-hand fighter was probably at least as strong as an Oni.
>She lost what is there to know?
Rem definitely didn't get one-shot by Ley, despite being exhausted, because Ley has a fresh new massive morning star scar from her. No idea how he survived that shit.
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>>157401738
>No idea how he survived that shit.
It either just clipped him or he's got some body horror powers. Either seems likely really.
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>>157402250
Well, we know for a fact that Gluttony has body horror powers. They can swap bodies and shapeshift into one another, and I think the wiki says their bones grind, flesh withers, and blood spews out when they do that.
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Someone else typeset this one.
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>>157402409
Don't tell me she actually cuts her hair later.
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>>157402409
>This happens every time Subaru wants to tell Petra about the weather
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>>157402461
She does if Subaru accepts Echidna's deal because she wants to get his attention and thinks he likes short hair because he seems to spend a lot of time with a random short-haired potato.
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>>157402461
Kasane route/Echidna IF yes. Emilia cuts her hair shorter because she noticed Subaru keeps paying attention to the sleeping girl and wants all his attention.
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>>157401029
>All Archbishops are strong
Yes but what I meant was that some of them without their Authorities would be little shits so the title isn't related to their base capabilities.

>Except she almost got killed for it and was even without facing Meili's boss dog
She was mowing them down by the dozens, the flail would have been strong enough to smash the top dog in one hit too. Left on her own she would have killed them although with severe strain

>She lost what is there to know? Even Julius basically lost to Roy in Arc 5 and he had had help. You think Rem by herself would have done better?
There is to know that she was not "oneshotted", and the fact that even Julius lost to one of his analogues means damages your point that losing to Ley means weakness

>There aren't OP
Not alle the cultists are fodder, see >>157400196

You can't really prove her weakness with the fact that she lost to enemies that are extremely strong
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>>157399644
see >>157373387
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>>157401686
It's a deathflag anon
Julius is kicking the bucket soon
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>>157402500
>>157402519
Echidna still helps Subaru save everyone right? How do they deal with the rabbits if Emilia is still a mess in that timeline?
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>>157404071
I'm not sure it was ever specified but its likely Roswaal never summoned them. Subaru is more or less following what Roswaal wanted him to do but for different reasons.
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>>157404071
they probably didn't even need to

Echidna probably gives them a cheat code
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>>157404136
But Roswaal should still be following his gospel if Subaru contracted with Echidna, because Roswaal wants Subaru to lose everyone except Emilia.
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>>157404173
No, he wants Echidna, Subaru is a means to that end. If Subaru is working with Echidna he'd need to adjust his plan. Roswaal called the hit on Betty but is ultimately not all that concerned what happens to her, he normally expects it to be an unwinnable scenario without his help though. Subaru more or less becomes the psycho Roswaal needed him to be so Roswaal can't be too upset. Either that or with Echidna's help he just brings Roswaal to heel.
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>>157404267
So it's not actually explained what happened then? What a cop-out. In any case Roswaal would still have been following his gospel and summoned the rabbits regardless, so the only explanation is everything else was cleared faster and they just evacuated before the blizzard.
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it's possible that the gospel in that timeline says differently
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>>157404599
Isn't it pretty much confirmed that the gospel told Roswaal to bring the snow right from the beginning? Subaru meeting/contracting with Echidna would have happened after it was already written, and perhaps cause entries from that point onwards to be different, but certainly wouldn't be able to change past entries unless it was a completely different timeline altogether with different events leading up to Sanctuary.
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Multiple timelines or time rewind?
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>>157404772
I'd say it sends Subaru's soul back in time if we assume that him losing the bet with Roswaal would actually trigger the contract conditions since if it was a full world rewind then it wouldn't matter, and the question is whether or not the timeline would be erased because of it.
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No, Rem can't beat Archbishops on her own.
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>>157401738
>>157402810

I agree that she likely didn't lose instantly, but I doubt she lasted beyond like 1-2 minutes going by the fights in Arc 5 which had involved either people stronger than her or around her level

Ley fought several people same time and still wasn't beaten, but the group came close.

AI vs Capella had Al losing and only managed to win by skin of his teeth.

Julius and Ricardo vs Roy was mostly a draw with both parties being injured, but Julius and Ricardo being worse off.

Priscilla manage to beat Sirius thanks to Liliana disputing her Authority. Same with Emilia and Subaru/Betty who came close.

Subaru, Emilia and Reinhard vs Regulus victory was only possible here because Emilia and Subaru neutralized his Authority.

Basically nobody has manged to defeat an Archbishop one-on-one yet without exploiting their weakness and teamwork. Emilia is only one who has come the closest, but even she has fallen short. So Rem's odd of wining even she had backup is pretty low and practically nil by herself.
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>>157405748
Nobody can expect for demi gods like Reinhard etc.
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>>157405772
>Emilia is only one who has come the closest, but even she has fallen short.
Against who? Every time she fought she was more in the way than useful.
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I wonder how better Rem would have fared if she weren't a test subject for Petelgeuse and Ley's authorities and already learned about them beforehand. I think she still might not win the fights but it might help her survive in those situations like buying enough time for reinforcements to arrive.
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>>157406644
Well, Petelgeuse is very beatable once you know his power.
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>>157406160
She did well vs Pete and Sirius both former still managed to survive and she couldn't quite clutch out later because something unexpected happened that she was unable to deal with. The Regulus fight was mostly a team affair.
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>>157406823
>did well vs Pete
you mean Puck? Everyone did well vs Pete because they knew how his powers worked, Emilia just came to kill the last finger and ruined everything
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>>157407424
She didn't fight in the WN right? How did the last finger die?
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>>157408168
I heard there was a fight, but it was different. I need to finish reading.

Also, news just in. Famous actor is completely whipped by his worthless girlfriend.
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>>157408494
I'm curious to know how an actor can end up being a NEET's boyfriend.
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So, does Roswaal finds out about Echidna?
And if he does, is his plan fullfilled?
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>>157408874
I think she used to be more respectable in the past, but now she's too obsessed with Subaru to be socially functional.
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>>157409043
Don't think so
Either that or Echidna ressurrected the way she did was part of the plan he shared with Beatrice
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>>157406804
You still need Subaru and his eyes or Petelgeuse's unseen hands would be much harder to deal with. Makes me wonder if Rem, if given Julius's ability to share Subaru's vision, could fight Petelgeuse as effectively as Julius did. If Rem couldn't then does it mean she and Subaru have worse chemistry than Julius and Subaru?
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>>157410592
This is my favorite illustration up till now.
Also, did they change the setting to the suicide cliff in the LN too or is that animeonly?
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>>157410592
What chemistry? Subaru just let Julius use his eyes, nothing more, it could have been any random's person eyes as long they're able to see unseen hands. It's probably very difficult to move your body while seeing through someone else's eyes but Julius is probably used to it.
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>>157407424
No? Didn't you hear Betty's explanation on that Spirit Users fight as one with their Spirits. Their is no need even have if there was contract sharing power if one partner doing all the work. Emilia and have always fought together alternating between offense and defense.
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>>157410592
Well for one, Julius is a spirit magic user.
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>>157410592
It wasn't just the shared vision that allow Julius to fight Pete tho, It was also his blade being infused with all 6 of his Lesser Spirits that allowed him to damage both Pete's soul and body.
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This jew is going to die because of a scarf. Please help her.
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>>157415429
How do we get rid of the SCARF
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>>157415429
Does it hurt when she takes it off?
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>>157402500
>>157402519
Why does she not just kill off that potato so Subaru would direct all his attention to her instead of the potato then?
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>>157417489
Subaru would murder her because of that or just simply "give up" and find away to put himself in a coma so he doesn't RbD and "die"
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>>157417489
10/10 plan, no way Subaru would be upset or something
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>>157417581
>and find away to put himself in a coma so he doesn't RbD and "die"
Nah
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>>157417831
But that way he would pay more attention to Emilia, wouldn't he? Hell I bet Emilia would be super happy as Subaru cares enough to kill her.
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https://touch.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=62768495
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>>157405577
Whore.
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>>157420002
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This chapter should be coming later right?
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>>157386650
This question was asked on Tappei's twitter.
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>>157377636
>Slutmilia fucked like the literal bitch that she is
kek
KEK
K E K
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>>157418840
M O D S
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>>157422907
Yeap
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>>157422907
Why is the potato there anyway? Why does Subaru love to carry sadness with him? Isn't that ceremony supposed to be happy and lighthearted? Bring the potato to the ceremony would just ruin it.
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>>157422944
What colour fur did Tappei confirm the male to have?
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>>157410592
You don't need that. Both Wilhelm and Emilia fought by using dust/mist to see where the hands were. Its just that Julius only has the shared vision thing so that's what he had to use. Even the triplets dodged around because they could see the hands in water vapor.
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>>157418425
She's not proactive at all. She's a broken doll that basically asks Subaru's permission to even breathe.
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Why does Roswaal need everybody to survive now, after he tried to murder all of them?
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>>157425347
He's forcing Subaru to stick to the path Subaru chose.
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>>157423814
She should witness her hero being knighted. It means alot to subaru.
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>>157425214
Wilhelm, Emilia, and the triplets only fought Petelgeuse in his fingers' bodies while Julius had to fight Petelgeuse in his real body and a bigger amount of unseen hands. So Petelgeuse at his full strength is hard to deal with.
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>>157425947
Each Betelgeuse that was beaten had successively more hands than the last. The one Emilia fought and the one Julius fought were both using as many of his hands as he could muster. Even so that still doesn't change the fact you don't need Subaru's eyes to fight Betelgeuse, its just not a tactic Julius has at his disposal so he had to do the eye thing. And the reason he was having trouble early was because he was acclimating to controlling his body in third person.
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Is it safe to post here now? Are the shitposters and catfaggots dead?
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>>157426166
I wish. Just ignore them and they generally stay sort of quiet.
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>>157423814
There is nothing wrong with carrying her soulless body around to witness important events.
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>>157426307
Yeah, what if they needed to hold open a door?
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>>157426307
>There is nothing wrong
Anon you want Subaru to live with depression forever?
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>>157401029
ESLfag again

>Except she almost got killed for it
never happened she killed dogs easily before subaru smacked her horn

>and was even without facing Meili's boss dog. That's why Roswaal wiping them all out including the boss demon beast without a sweat is even more

for fuck sake read the fucking story, subaru hit her horn a weakpoint of the fucking oni's so she couldn't do nothing afterwards

>She lost what is there to know? Even Julius basically lot Roy in Arc 5 and he had had help. You think Rem by herself would have done better?
he got a wound from her and that was a rem who was still suffering from the damge after the whale battle also she protected crusch

>There aren't OP. Their were losing to your average well trained knights in Arc 3 and the Fang of Iron. Witch Cultists are only deadly in numbers otherwise it's Archbishops who the real power.

even a 8 year old oni rem and transformed frederica was struggling to fight them and almost got killed in the backstory novel and this was even a strong culist like Fogg

>Petelgeuse destroyed her
yeah who didn't know about his hands. i guess wilhelm, emilia or the other charater who also died against him are also weak according to you're ESL logic

>>157425214
tappei stated on his twitter that only wilhem can to that with the dust and kill him and emilia had help from puck
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>>157408494
I'll probably have to resize some text to make things fit better later.

Now here's the real question. Would you still keep your NEET girlfriend even after you became rich and famous? Would you still love Rem even if she devolved to the point where she stopped wearing anything other than your old tracksuit?
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>>157425694
Why would Rem feel happy about Subaru becoming even closer to Emilia? Wouldn't she feel jealous instead?
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>>157428710
Whoops.
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>>157402375
>>157402409
typeset the IF about Julius and Reinhard too
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>>157400777
when did that happned? backstory novel?
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>>157429251
That happened in Arc 3 when she was tracking down Subaru.
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>>157428710
if you drop friendships in general just because you get rich and famous then it just means that it wasn't genuine from the beginning.

how the fuck did rem end up like this anyway? I'm sure she can be fixed easily
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>>157428739
because his growth as a person is way more important to her
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>>157429251
The time she fought 20+ of them to get to Subaru? She was counting in the WN/LN and lost track near 20 or something.
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>>157428739
The knighting thing isn't about Emilia, I'm not sure why you think it is. Its about Subaru getting recognized for his accomplishments. Since Rem is basically the reason he was able to do them in the first place he wants her there to 'see' what she helped him do.

Have you never seen someone do anything in memoriam? Like, a thing in a book prologue? She just happens to not be dead and doesn't need medical equipment so he can actually drag her around with him.
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>>157431021
>how the fuck did rem end up like this anyway? I'm sure she can be fixed easily
I'm kind of guessing her boyfriend started spoiling her too much or something. She seems like she was fine before they started dating, when she From Zero'd his ass. Now she acts like some kind of spoiled brat.
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>>157432515
neet rem is cute, it's probably just a phase until Subaru kicks her ass once
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>>157433313
Does Subaru seem like he's ever going to kick her ass? The man is whipped. Might as well just make her a housewife so she can live the NEET life forever.
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>>157433530
just because he spoils her doesn't mean he can't be strict with her if it's needed
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>>157433530
Role reversal is incoming
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Can't beat the oni pussy
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>>157427206
>never happened she killed dogs easily before subaru smacked her horn

The point was that it nearly happened before and was going to happen again. Especially since in her berserk she lack awareness of her surroundings and can't even differentiate from friend and foe. This no even adding the boss dog. That's why Subaru and Ram ran to to save her. I trust the actual story more than fanboy delusions. So don't talk to me not knowing the material when you can't even grasp the obvious.

>for fuck sake read the fucking story, subaru hit her horn a weakpoint of the fucking oni's so she couldn't do nothing afterwards

The fuck are you talking about? There is no implication that she would have beaten the boss dog and she was tried and running on adrenaline by the time they found her. That's why going by herself was dangerous.

>he got a wound from her and that was a rem who was still suffering from the damge after the whale battle also she protected crusch

No dude. Rem is not going to beat someone multiple people haven't been able to do even with numbers no matter what state she is in. She wasn't wounded either, just running low on mana and fucking Julius had been fighting throughout Arc 5 with 6 Spirits draining his mana to use their magic so that excuse doesn't fly.

>yeah who didn't know about his hands. i guess wilhelm, emilia or the other charater who also died against him are also weak according to you're ESL logic

That fuck you talking about. Don't post you're retarded logic and claim that is mine. Losing to an Archbishop doesn't make you weak, it's how you do and how fast that determines how strong you are. Emilia won she could fight as properly as a Spirit User, Wilhelm is one best fighters in the country so it not just being able to perceive Unseen Hands that allow those two win, but their abilities. Tappei himself stating she's the most middle of the road character in terms overall power.
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>>157434189
>Emilia won
Emilia died in the escape tunnels, she was only able to kill one of the fingers because she was told what his powers were.
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>>157434189
>She wasn't wounded either
>She was sent home specifically because Felix said she was too injured to fight
>Narration says she has no mana and no fighting strength remaining essentially
>She wasn't wounded either
I mean, why would anyone expect you to have read fucking anything? Just fuck off retard.
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>>157434189
>Julius had been fighting throughout Arc 5 with 6 Spirits draining his mana to use their magic so that excuse doesn't fly.
Julius' spirits don't drain his mana or at least not significantly, they use mana from the environment. Only Betty specifically drains mana only from living beings and can't drain mana from the surrounding area like other spirits. This was like Arc 1 shit, how are you so fucking stupid?
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>>157434189
>>157434392
Also I don't get how "while severely tired she managed to land a serious wound on a S-tier enemy before losing" is indication of Rem being weak
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>>157434588
It's stupid to try and rank characters like that when their capacities/gimmicks are largely unknown/haven't been shown yet. I've seen people try to fucking rank Flugel, a character who has literally never appeared. And then there's cases like Subaru or Pandora where they don't appear strong in a fight, but can change things to go their way, or Regulus who is strong in a fight but incompetent at fighting.
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>>157426579
>implying he can ever be really happy for longer than two chapters

i just dont believe in it anymore.
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>>157432033
The entirely knighting ceremony is about Subaru and Emilia. As Roswaal and Julius state in Arc 3 Emilia has to be to recognize him as such because a Candidate Knight has to be someone they felt has earned their trust by deeds. Roswaal just coronates it. The entire thing essentially a giant vow from Subaru to Emilia.

>Since Rem is basically the reason he was able to do them in the first place he wants her there to 'see' what she helped him do.

That's rather hyperbolic. Yes, Rem has helped in some of his accomplishments, but Subaru's the main reason why everything got resolved throughout Arc 1-4. In fact Rem's entire argument to him has been that he's much more capable than he believes himself to be. She also credits the events like the village kids being saved to him not her who main job has always been provide the muscle while he does the plans. This same argument Julius used when Felix tried to accredit the White Whale's defeat to Wilhelm, I was because it that Subaru was there that were about fight the thing and successfully subdue it even if Wilhelm was the one to ultimately bring it down.

So yes Rem is there as symbolic wittiness partially because she made a pact with Subaru to support in achieving his wish to become Emilia's confidant and supporter, to provide a future where she could be happy. It brings him a step closer having her recognize his feelings for her.
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>>157434736
We do know about Gluttony though. He steals existence and/or memory and when he steals both he puts the victim into a magical coma
People downplay Gluttony a lot. I could rank him 2nd in terms of offensive capability, because he can also freely accesses all of his victims skills and abilities. They basically get stronger the more they eat
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>>157434993
Not him but you missed his point completely. Rem isn't at the ceremony to see Subaru be "closer" to Emilia but to see that he has accomplished something thanks to her help.
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>>157434993
Where the fuck did all of this come from?
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>>157434329
>Emilia died in the escape tunnels, she was only able to kill one of the fingers because she was told what his powers were.

She died because was attacked at night when she was at half her strength without Puck was eventually overwhelmed. That's why there a bunch of frozen cultist in the passage. Emilai never knew anything about Pete powers at all because she doesn't need to her case. Spirit Arts effect the atmosphere so the hands would have revealed themselves by coming in contact with the residue ice.

>I mean, why would anyone expect you to have read fucking anything? Just fuck off retard.

No retard it was both. The only physical injures she sustains was protecting Subaru from the impact of White Whale's shockwave which something Felix could easily healed. Mana loss has dramatic effects on physical body making it weak, but seem to forgot that in your rush to attack any opposing opinion.

>>157434473
>Julius' spirits don't drain his mana or at least not significantly, they use mana from the environment.

No dumbass, Betty says they do both. Only she specifically drains from people. IN case you don't' remember Emilia stated that mana in atmosphere is limited.

>>157434588
Didn't she was weak. I said she can't fight a Bishop on her own and that fucking fact proven by record. Whataboutism means shit because it can apply to anything.

It's made a big deal that Shaula is capable of straight up defeating an Archbishop unconditionally in Arc 6 for a reason.
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Ah fuck, that anon is here again. Time to call it a day.
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Reminder that I have wanted to read this since last August and now based Yen Press is releasing an translation this year
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>>157435197
>Not him but you missed his point completely. Rem isn't at the ceremony to see Subaru be "closer" to Emilia but to see that he has accomplished something thanks to her help.

That's why I don't agree. It makes Rem sound opportunistic. I don't think she cares whether Subaru was able to accomplish with or without. Rem believes he's capable of these things without her. She just wants to able to witness him do it by pushing him in the direction of that goal, which is why he says to Rem to watch him from her special seat. Rem seem more more concerned about him recognizing his own worth and believe that Emilia come to see it too.

>>157435197
I'm addressing claiming that knighting ceremony wasn't also about Emilia and that was just about his accomplishments. I agree that Rem isn't there to see Subaru become closer Emilia specifically, but to see Subaru achieve his ambitions. They just happen to involve Emilia.
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>>157435816
I'm pretty sure his knighting ceremony is something Rem would want to attend to no matter what she has to do to make time for it. It's not like she'll die if she doesn't, no one will, but she would definitely regret it a lot.
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>>157434993
>The entirely knighting ceremony is about Subaru and Emilia.
sure sounded a lot more stupid than what you seem to say now. At best you can say it's about the three of them, at least in Subaru's eyes.
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Thinking everything is about Subaru and Emilia is hugely missing a big part of the story
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>>157435816
>>157435988
it's a special event in his life, of course he wants Rem to be there and Rem would also want to be there
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It's literally just so that when the fact he was knighted comes up after Rem wakes up and she gets upset over missing the ceremony, he can tell her that he made sure she actually was present, then she jumps his dick again for like the 3rd that day
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I wonder how people here will react if Tappei makes Subaru choose Emilia anyway in the end.
Unless, of course, the ending is a bad ending and there's no "choosing" anything.
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>>157437267
Really it depends, there has to be a damn good reason for it, and has to break alot of people's image and Rem's character. It also has to surpass what Subaru and Rem have done for each other up until now which is no easy feat, with the closest one being the daughteru Beatrice of all people.
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>>157437199
My life as a spiritualist starting from zero mana
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>>157437358
>there has to be a damn good reason for it
Her finally understanding what love is and accepting Subaru's feelings and Rem already conscious.
That's all there needs to be done.
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ftr, Rem being at the knighting ceremony is because Ram brought her along (don't remember if it was just Ram or if other people agreed to it, could be the latter). Subaru doesn't seem to have any knowledge of it since he gets surprised at seeing her. Nor does he seem to have any real opinion on it, besides being annoyed at how smug Ram looks at the idea (sasuga nee-sama)
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>>157437579
Well that and for Subaru to stop acting like one of the worst romantic candidates towards her
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>>157437583
That's cold Subaru, ice cold.
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>>157437583
Lel, well that's kind of a bummer
Sasuga
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>>157437583
I can feel the ships sinking as I read that post
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>>157437654
What do you mean?
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>>157437583
dunno if you're bullshitting or if tappei tries to make subaru look like scum
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>>157437583
It seems Subaru's obsession wasn't the reason, heh.
She's a potato, she can't even know what's going on anyway.
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>>157437848
Not him, but ripping off a confession from another girl because he can't think of how to prove his sincerity to her is pretty awful.
Give him a second/third opportunity to convey his feelings
>>157437852
>>157437870
I would imagine the idea didn't cross his mind cause he's stupid, but it's actually really strange considering he still talks to her comatose body for hours anyway
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>>157437583
Fucking hell Subaru
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Subaru wanting to bring an unconscious Rem be there for a personal want felt a little grotesque to me, like lugging around a stuffed body pretending it's alive
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>>157438008
That has nothing to do with Emilia.
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>>157438008
it seems really ooc for him not to bring Rem along, unless he doesn't consider that event as that special
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>>157438116
Or he doesn't consider Rem special?
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>>157438116
>>157438008
There could be a plethora of reasons to not bring her along. Like for example not wanting to answer all the questions of who she is and why she's a potato.
Or because he doesn't want her body to be damaged in any way, so he tries to not move her around that much if unnecessary.
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>>157437583
Remfags = Destroyed
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>>157438116
He didn't know he was getting knighted that day until Roswaal sprung the news on him and then he had to scramble to get dressed and ready since they'd done no rehearsals
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>>157437583
Hahahaha
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>>157438179
Or because he didn't know he was being knighted...
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>>157438179
sasuga clown-sama
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>>157438116
>>157438155
>>157438158
>>157438179
Well, let's just wait till it's translated since it's close anyway, both damage control and trolling are pointless without everyone seeing how it actually plays out
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>>157438158
there better be an explanation
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>>157438266
Damn, imagine if there was no proper explanation, your ship material or Subaru's character will be irrevocably damaged.
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>>157437583
I see red lights
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>>157437583
So Rem really isn't that special to Subaru? Guess she's just his fucktoy after all...
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>>157437583
nice save by nee-sama
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>>157438326
consistensy is important you know?
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>>157437583
This is the part where you say its a joke
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Rem is the embodiment of an anime waifu

by which I mean she came along and was there for her run, making a huge impact on this dude (until she got eaten), at which point everyone except for the guy who waifu'd her forgot about her. His quest to save her and all the anguish he feels is representative of the suffering and uncertainty a waifufag feels while awaiting a satisfying continuation of their waifu's media. By constantly posting about the virtues of his waifu, others who may have forgotten about her begin to come around. He also has extreme reactions to those who (he perceives) insult her or suggest she isn't worth it.
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>>157437583
FUCK
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>>157438886
Isn't that just how Emilia has been the entire run?
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>>157437583
Anxiety rising. Ships sinking.
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>>157438870
I think I vaguely recall the same thing. Its been awhile, so I guess we'll see how it goes and then call Subaru a douche or something.
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>>157438326
>Subaru's character will be irrevocably damaged
I'm already too soft on him even though he's kind of a scumbag anyway
>>157438084
What am I supposed to think about an emotional scene where he uses his own words with Betty after not being able to with goddamn Emilia? In the same Arc. On the very same day. A few hours later.
>>157438933
He wanted to prove Roswaal and Garfiel wrong after they called his waifu shit
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>>157437583
Its official Rem confirmed as being nothing but a fuck buddy for Subaru.
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>>157438933
Emilia is a seasonal waifu that he likes for how she looks. Rem is the true waifu that still pops into your head years later and makes you hate the fact that she isn't real - she didn't have instant appeal at first, but she grew on him so much that it's permanent.
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>>157438326
There are sort of reasons why he would do either thing, but it would be a little weird if it wasn't mentioned at all. Although that's kind of par for the course sometimes, as of the official end of arc 4 its never even brought up to Ram that she has a sister even though Garfiel and company came dragging along a weird blue Ram.
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>>157439261
Because they'll talk about it later.
And in the end it seems Subaru had no time to prepare for the Knighting since he was told the same day, since Roswaal is a douche.
Why is everyone ignoring that reply?
>>157438179
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>>157439261
Subaru and company always forget to mention really important shit to each other. I thought this was a staple of the series by now.
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>>157439385
>Emilia hasn't told anyone about any of the third trial
I just thought about that and I'm mad now
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>>157439439
She had more pressing concerns, like picking baby names.
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>>157439439
There can be a number of reasons for that too, maybe she'll tell them something in Arc 5.
Although, if I remember well, Emilia said she'll be careful around those events that seemed to be in the near future, e.g. that scene with Reinhardt and Subaru.
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>>157439610
I can imagine that her "being careful" will trigger these "self-fulfilling prophecies", because Tappei's Tappei and Emilia's Emilia.
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>>157437670
>>157437671
>>157437798
>>157437852
>>157438052
>>157438176
>>157438211

I don't get what so bad about this , there no need for her in the ceremony because she's a potato , it actually ruin the mood imo
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>>157439746
Color me surprised, ESL is still a clueless idiot.
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>>157439746
>>157439836
Why does any of this matter? We're about 5 arcs missing from the WN and we have no idea what will happen to any of the character's, ships included.
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>>157439932
Yes, yes, we know you're an idiot, you don't have to keep telling us.
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>>157440006
>we have no idea what will happen in future arcs
>y-you're an idiot, it's clear *insert headcanon here* will happen
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>>157439125
>makes you hate the fact that she isn't real
What do you mean anon? I don't understand
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>>157440040
Not even remotely what was implied, but keep proclaiming how stupid you are as loudly as possible. I'm sure if you reach peak stupid it has to wrap around somewhere right?
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>>157440100
>"DONT INTERPRET MY EXTREMELY VAGUE REPLY AS IDIOTIC NONSENSE, STOOPID"
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>>157440165
You're really bad at this. It'd probably help if you actually spoke the language you are failing at conversing in.
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>>157440192
>The Phantom ESL
Supposed ESL's are all one boogieman.
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>>157440285
>ESL's
Not helping your case here buddy. If you aren't ESL why are you sucking his cock and defending his stupidity?
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>>157440355
I'm not defending anyone, you dumb nigger. You're both retarded for trying to defend your ships halfway through the story.
All this bitching about Rem and Emilia in general is autistic.
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>>157384865
Honestly, thank chance for this thread.
I've been waiting the Translator Chicken bastard for so long now. He's a good guy but hey, I'm selfish and I want content now.
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>>157439932

>We're about 5 arcs missing from the WN and we have no idea what will happen to any of the character's, ships included

Ferri will marry Crusch-sama and they will have green-haired cat-eared children.
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>>157440461
Everyone dies and Satella humps Subaru's dead body.

The End.
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>>157440387
I'm not defending any ship, I'm calling ESL a stupid fuck. Regardless of whether they're right or not the logic is extremely simple as to why someone would care one way or the other, failing to understand something so simple makes you an idiot, and then there's in inability to speak english on top of that. That you also can't seemingly read simple english puts you in the same position and you can fuck off as well.
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>>157440419
Maybe it at least wouldn't feel as slow if he didn't divide the chapters into parts and just released them completely

Btw, what's the title of Arc 5?
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>>157440485
I don't think you understand the irony here, since "I don't understand" in these situations is often used as a figure of speech, it's rhetorical. The faggot clearly understands, he's just saying they should calm their tits because X,Y,Z.
Also, English should be capitalized here, Mr.ESL.
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>>157437583
>Subaru totally ignores and forgets the potato whenever he's with Emilia.
News at 11.
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>>157437583
Why is everyone sperging out over this?
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Emilia always ruining everything
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>>157441332

What?
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>>157441389
Oh fuck, you're here
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>1650 pages
Jesus Christ.
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>>157441481

?????
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>>157441238
Because they are salty that their ship is sinking fast and that Subaru doesn't even have any respect for Rem whatsoever.

>>157441304
Stop passing responsibility. You should question legitimacy of Subaru's feelings for the potato instead because they are very unhealthy and worrying right now.
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>>157441561
Too obvious.
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>>157441561
>ship is sinking fast
>arc where subaru and emilia have zero relationship progress because Subaru doesn't even try anymore
kek
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>>157441561
you know that we have translated arc 6 chapters, right? you should stop starting shit because of some half assed spoilers
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>>157442024
Not forcing a relationship and letting it grow gradually and naturally is healthy. Pretending to be kind and caring for the potato despite not loving her and ignoring her every chance he gets is NOT healthy.

>>157442091
Ram even knows Subaru doesn't love the potato in arc 6 so?
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>>157442457
>not forcing a relationship

>"I will make you fall for me"
>keikaku kiss
>protagonist delusions
>not forced
anon please
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>>157442457
Are you the "Emilia is way worse at romance than Subaru can ever imagine so he's now pursuing Rem instead" anon?
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>>157442457
For anyone who didn't get it, that's a parody post
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>>157442630
pretty sure it's actually an delusional emiliafag
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>>157442694
I like to not pretend that their reasoning has any basis in reality
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>>157442570
None of that is a case of "forcing a relationship". He had no idea she was that ignorant.
Also the kiss in Arc 4 wasn't "keikaku", his speech to her wasn't "keikaku" either. You're giving him too much leeway.
The "protagonist delusions" have stopped being a thing since arc 3 too.
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>>157440355
ESL is not a single poster, it's an acronym for English as a Second Language.
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>>157442570
>"I will make you fall for me"
What is wrong with wanting to be loved by the girl you love?
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>>157443173
all of it is forcing a relationship, that guy gave up on her and fell for another girl for good reasons, he doesn't even try to have relationship progress with her and the only time he kissed her was only because he had to, his interest in her is based on her looks because she plays into his fetishes. If Emilia had a body fitting to her mental age Subaru would have no interest in her at all
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>>157443367
that you don't plan this kind of shit
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>>157443367
nothing, it's actually totally fine but the way he put it was just disgusting
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>>157443173
He clearly had no intention to kiss her at that moment. He only got the idea to kiss after brainstorming how to make her believe he loves her. It wasn't motivated by an actual desire to feel her lips.
That kiss was the definition of forced.
The speech itself perhaps less so.
>>157443621
I'm a Remfag but that's going a bit far
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>>157443573
>If Emilia had a body fitting to her mental age Subaru would have no interest in her at all
Pretty sure Subaru would love whoever saves him when he arrives in the different world for the first time.
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>>157443668
I'm not going too far, the moment I read this line I started to hate that ship. Subaru is just disgusting when he's with Emilia. He's a completely different person when he's with people like Beako, Otto and Rem.
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>>157443801
>subaru potentially a pedophile
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>>157443873
Artificial spirits can't have kids.
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>>157443573
>gave up on her
That never happened.
>>157443610
Anon doesn't know how to pursue a relationship.
>>157443621
>"You're going to eventually find me someone you desire"
>disgusting
Another anon that has no idea how relationships work.
>>157443668
>He clearly had no intention to kiss her at that moment
"Clearly" by the text or "clearly" by your headcanon?
>He only got the idea to kiss after brainstorming how to make her believe he loves her.
So he loves her and he made her believe that by showing her a sign of affection we humans often use to do so?
Color me surprised.
So every human relationship or at least, most of them, are forced.
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>>157443866
Memeboi is cringe, but disgusting?
You're retarded.
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>>157443173
>The "protagonist delusions" have stopped being a thing since arc 3 too.
I'm not sure if they were ever that major a part of Arc 3 for them to be something he had to get over.
>>157443801
He'd be appreciative of anyone who saved him. He wouldn't necessarily love them. I mean, he's not about to start sucking Reinhard's cock any time soon, even if he thinks he's an amazing guy.
>>157443866
To be fair he has a kind of possessive attitude with Rem as well. I looked at the beginning of Arc 4 again, and Otto was complaining about Subaru calling him greedy when Subaru was referring to another girl as "My Rem" in front of Emilia. To which he gave some response that he was trying to make Emilia jealous. Though I guess that does mean his way of flirting with Emilia is kind of shitty.
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>>157444119
he confessed to another girl just a few hours ago, yes he's disgusting
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>>157443621
You are reading too much into it. Subaru simply used poor word choice there and his intent was definitely not as bad as you imagined. He just wants to feel loved by a girl he truly loves, just like any human being, even though it may sound a bit selfish.
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>>157444216
>you can't love more than one person
That's mentally deficient, anon.
And who did he confess to? He confessed to Emilia, but didn't confess to Rem.
>>157444269
All of our actions are selfish.
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>>157444216
He really didn't want to do that but because the potato kept forcing him so.
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>>157444317
Oh, when she feigned her death, I see. My bad.
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emiliAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASUhaaayayayahgahnnnmmmmnhhmmmnmmnnnhmmmmMMMMMMmmhmmmmmilia
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>>157444386
What the fuck.
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>>157444317
Well, she didn't keep forcing him, but she did kind of go too far there after he gave her a sign.
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>>157444269
You know that he hates himself and even thinks that Rem is too good for a loser like him, right? Him saying that he'll make Emilia fall for him despite thinking that he's worthless trash just shows how much he doesn't respects Emilia. If his inner monologue was that he first wanted to become a a man worthy of her and then try to make her fall for him would've been a lot better but the way he put it was like 'Emilia deserves trash like me'.
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>>157444521
>>157444475
>>157444386
You've spoiled the April chapter for me, didn't you?
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>>157444366
>Rem didn't force Subaru to do anything guys! Subaru totally did things like cheating on Emilia of his own accord.

>Rem: Is it okay…if I ask for a selfish favor…?
>Rem: Say “I love you”…
Can you kindly shut up now?
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>>157444531
he confessed to her under the tree already, read the story you dumb fuck
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>>157444020
You normally kiss and have sex with someone because you want to feel good and closer to them, not because you're afraid that person's going to hate you if you don't kiss them.
From the moment he decided that he should try to kiss her till the moment their lips touched he didn't think about any such things. He thinks of it as an obstacle he has to push through.
I'm not saying he's incapable of having an actual romantic kiss with her, but that certainly wasn't it.
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How many times did Subaru masturbate to his posters of Emilia in Ayamatsu?
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>>157444582
>implying that others are at fault for you being a cheater
jesus christ you Emiliafags really like to pass responsibility huh?
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>>157444542
>You know that he hates himself and even thinks that Rem is too good for a loser like him
Yet he still sees Rem as nothing but a second girl, a mistress, a second choice and totally forgets about her regularly. Yeah you are reading too much into it.
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>>157444582
Nah. That moment is acknowledged as kind of fucked up. Though Subaru kind of provoked it with his psuedo-confession under the tree.
>>157444542
He's had the thought of wanting to become worthy of Emilia for awhile now. He'd probably actually have a better chance with her if he stopped thinking of things that way, and was willing to relate to her as an equal rather than a superior.
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>>157444842
post the full image
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>>157444785
H E A D C A N O N
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Do you think Subaru did or did not masturbate to his Emilia posters while Blue was in the room?
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>>157444726
at least twice every day, once at dawn, another at bedtime
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>>157444623
>>157444784
Yeah it's not like Rem didn't try to make tons of moves on Subaru and make his feelings for Emilia waver in the Flugel tree scene, amirite?
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>>157444785
you should probably read the most important chapter
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>>157444943
it's not like Subaru is responsible for his own feelings, right?
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>>157444918
He did, then had Blue heal his balls in order to be able to go again immediately
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>>157444943
>implying that others are at fault for you being a cheater
That has nothing to do with being a shipperfag, what the hell is wrong with you
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>>157444626
>You normally kiss and have sex with someone because you want to feel good and closer to them, not because you're afraid that person's going to hate you if you don't kiss them.
Are you in elementary school or something?
As I asked before, are all relationships, real life or otherwise, forced because not everything fits your retarded idea of "You don't love someone if not all of your actions are based on instinct!"?
Because what you just said is basically that trying to comfort Emilia and wake her the fuck up was a way to "force a relationship" or rather, "force a kiss".
Physically it was "forced", I'm sure of it because he smacked his face and teeth, quite literally on hers without her knowing what the hell was going on.
>rom the moment he decided that he should try to kiss her
Yeah, this is clearly a "yes" answer to the "All relationships are forced". How was your first kiss, anon? Did you just suddenly find yourself tightly clenched to another person's mouth without knowing how you got there?
>*record scratch*
>*freeze frame*
>"You're probably wondering why we suddenly changed the scene from me wanking in my room to me kissing someone randomly on the streets, I could explain but I don't know either."
>He thinks of it as an obstacle he has to push through.
No, the text said he enjoyed it.
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>>157444943
So? It's not like Emilia booked Subaru, she didn't even have the intention to do so in the first place
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How close was Subaru to cumming when Emilia said his name?
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>>157444994
>>157445023
Both Subaru and Rem are at fault here, but Rem is more guilty because that girl made Subaru cheat on Emilia, despite him clearly not wanting to do it.
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>>157444943
She didn't really make all that many moves on him. In the scene under the tree, it was more Subaru who made a move than Rem.
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>>157445135
It can't be cheating if they're not in a relationship. Emilia is not a damaged party because she didn't state any intention to romance Subaru
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>>157445135
at fault is the one who's cheating, if Subaru became a cheater because of Rem then only because his feelings for Emilia weren't strong enough
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>>157445105
>>157445214
It is still fucking disgusting and scummy as the potato already planed to ruin Subaru and Emilia's relationship before it could even have a chance to recover and develop in the future. What a scumbag that potato is goddamn.
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>>157445491
Emilia just sitting there doesn't deserve anything
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>>157445040
I said from the start the kiss is forced, the relationship is a different topic. You've read like four things I never said
There are teenagers who forced their first kiss, probably for less dramatic reasons, but got more natural about it as time went on.
Their first kiss was forced. Nothing more nothing less
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>>157445540
The potato has been doing nothing but sleeping all day so she doesn't deserve to be the center of Subaru's attention after she wakes up.
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>>157445641
At least Rem did something before the coma to "earn" this dedication, Emilia is passiveness incarnate
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>>157445641
why is she sleeping though?
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>>157445733
Puck or not, she did give him the lap pillow, which at least gave him more ideas than wanting to fuck her all the time
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>>157445491
Subaru was already kind of walking a fine line with Rem. I mean, he was getting lap pillows and rubbing his cheeks into the thighs of a girl who obviously liked him. He wasn't doing a good job in discouraging Rem at all.
>>157445733
Emilia still saved him once, when the thugs were beating him up and threatening to kill him, and wasted five minutes of her time to heal him and make sure he recovered.
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>>157445633
The relationship is forced as well. After the whale fight, Subaru and Rem had both confessed to each other. Subaru then trying to also get Emilia even though it doesn't have to be since she isn't interested and is ignorant about romance makes it feel forced. The author fucked up.
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>>157445750
By being stupid and getting into trouble and becoming a useless potato?

>>157445733
>did something
She was very useless and couldn't get anything done or protect anyone or avoid getting killed, but she was fairly active and hyper so I would give you that. But still she doesn't deserve Subaru's care, kindness, pity.
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>>157445633
So you never said it's a "keikaku kiss"? Or that their relationship is forced? Then make it clear you're not the same person, you retard.
Also, if it's "physically forced", that was a joke on my side.
>>157445540
Somehow love is based on how much a person flaunts themselves over you.
I'm not against any ship, since I don't know what will happen in future arcs, but this "X deserves it more than Y." is retarded. That's not how people choose their partners.
>>157445997
>The author fucked up.
No, anon, it's just your headcanon.
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>>157445997
>Subaru shouldn't have confessed to Emilia despite loving her because Emilia may or may not have feelings for Subaru!
The fuck anon?
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>>157446038
You forgot that it only happened because the retarded half elf showed herself in public so the witch cult could target her. Fucking attention whore.
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>>157445997
I think this whole conversation is kind of stupid, but I'll agree on the point that Emilia was written as too pure, at least for my tastes. I liked her best when I thought she had a more mature understanding of romance and when I thought she might be mentally older than she looked.

Seeing her perspective and misunderstandings in certain scenes ended up ruining the parts I thought I liked about her.
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>>157422944
Show us the reply.
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>>157446141
>Then make it clear you're not the same person, you retard.
You had three replies to that post, why the hell would you assume it's all the same guy, I wasn't even the first
>>157446155
He's clearly dumb if he isn't baiting, but Emilia didn't know they would target her cause Puck's fucking satan.
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>>157446294
I had one, and it was you.
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>>157446294
>but Emilia didn't know they would target her cause Puck's fucking satan.
I know, I'm just using same retarded logic as that emiliafag
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>>157446268
I agree with this, actually. Before I knew she was ignorant, I was thinking the same way.
>>157446343
The "muh bastard potato" guy is annoying and dumb, but no one considering that maybe Subaru's just emotionally immature himself or simply in love with both of them is on the same level.
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>>157446143
He shouldn't have confessed to Emilia because he already confessed to Rem before. He knows that Emilia doesn't love him and he still goes for it because the author is too retarded to write romance with Emilia.
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>>157446155
Nah it was the potato's stupidity that got her killed. She could have run away from death by accepting Subaru's offer in From Zero but she didn't so she instead got what she asked for. Can't say she didn't deserve it.
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>>157446414
>simply in love with both of them is on the same level.
I don't think that it's possible to love two people romantically.
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>>157446423
>He shouldn't have confessed to Emilia because he already confessed to Rem before.
This doesn't exclude the other.
>He knows that Emilia doesn't love him
How do you know he knows that? It was never once claimed in the LN/WN that she doesn't have feelings for him or that he knows that.
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>>157446452
>Emiliafags are showing again how retarded they are
you never fail to entertain me
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>>157446318
Look at
>>157443173
And you're responding to three guys in
>>157444020
Well, whatever

>>157446452
Oh geez it's you again
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>>157446477
Yes, it can be possible, it's just not possible to keep up such a relationship.
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>>157446488
>How do you know he knows that? It was never once claimed in the LN/WN that she doesn't have feelings for him or that he knows that.
are you actually retarded?
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>>157446626
You just might be.
She said that she doesn't understand love, not that she isn't in love with him, you dumb fuck.
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>>157446605
>Yes, it can be possible
do you speak out of experience or because you believe Subaru's bullshit?
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>>157446423
>He knows that Emilia doesn't love him
What?

>He shouldn't have confessed to Emilia because he already confessed to Rem before.
Subaru didn't give a shit about Rem romance and he truly loved Emilia so no reason for him not to confess to Emilia.

>>157446531
Losing the argument already? I actually expected something more from Remtards but I guess I was wrong.
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>>157446674
she said that before he confessed to her? stop making up shit
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>>157446703
>and he truly loved Emilia
hahahahaha, like I said you never fail to entertain me, tell me more about your headcanon
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>>157446675
Not my own, I'm monogamous.
>>157446718
What are you even talking about, dimwit?
She said that a few chapters ago. That she doesn't get it and he answered that he'll wait.
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>>157446703
Go to bed already you autistic shitter, it's past 2am in Australia
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>>157446675
Oh and, as I said, it can just be possible that he's emotionally immature.
It's not as if this isn't his first love and all. It might be infatuation with one of them or even both.
Which is why I said we need to wait for the 11 arcs to actually finish.
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>>157446674
>he said that she doesn't understand love
literally just a cheap excuse to drag that shit out and force it even more, the author is really a cunt
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>>157446718
>headcanon
>Subaru: ――I love Emilia.
>Subaru: I want to see Emilia’s smile. I want to be of help for Emilia’s future. Even if she tells me that I’m a nuisance, even if she tells me to stay away……..I want to be by her side.
>Subaru: It’s okay if I don’t get her to understand. I want to help Emilia now. I want to bring Emilia out from the future of harsh suffering that awaits her and I want to take her into the future where everyone can smile.
Are you done embarrassing yourself anon? Keep in mind that I haven't even used a single quote from the pic related scene yet.
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>>157446997
This is for this Remtard >>157446777
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>>157446997
words he never followed up with actions, yeah he loves her, totally
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>>157446997
anon he said that right after he gave up on her life after just a few tries, it's not very convincing especially because he confessed to Rem just a day later
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>>157447108
Even if he's kinda shit as a boyfriend he's done what he said there, hasn't he?
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>>157447108
Except he just went through all kinds of troubles to save and confess to the girl he loved in that scene? Yeah Subaru loves Emilia.

>>157447169
>it's not very convincing especially because he confessed to Rem just a day later
Again, it was because of that potato so it's unfair to say Subaru doesn't love Emilia just because he was forced and fooled by another girl.
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>>157447331
>so it's unfair to say Subaru doesn't love Emilia just because he was forced and fooled by another girl.
Are you actually that fucked up of a person
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>Catfag still posting the same boring drivel as always
>That one autistic Emiliafag is still baiting hard
>All the autistic Remfags are still feeding him
>Threads are nothing but shitposting except for the first two or three hours after TLAnon drops a new chapter
Good thing I have the mega bookmarked. I really don't know why I have checked back into Re:Zero threads today. Congratulations, these have become almost as shit as Wan Piss, Tokyo Fool:REEEEE or Attack on Normies threads.
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>>157447108
>>157447169
No one here seems to understand that he loves Satella.
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>>157447196
dunno anon, why is it so easy for him to break promises and lie to Emilia? Why did he gave up on her? Why didn't he ever suicide for Emilia? Why does he wear a mask when he's with her and pretends to be someone he isn't? If you think that it's "normal" to do that shit to the person you love then we probably just have different expectations
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>>157447369
So staying absolutely loyal to the only girl you love is fucked up now? Wow anon wow.
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>>157447393

>Catfag still posting the same boring drivel as always

I'm not posting any drivel bro.
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>>157447393
that shit started only because of some inaccurate spoilers
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>>157447536
so you're saying that Rem forced him to love her? wtf
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>>157447331
>he was forced and fooled by another girl
Please, he was forced to admit it, but he already loved Rem at that point
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>>157447393
Honestly, it's fluctuating
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So who's gonna be on the LN 13 cover?
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>>157447495
Now now, don't be just as retarded as the potatofag, Anon.
>dunno anon, why is it so easy for him to break promises and lie to Emilia?
The first time he was a dick to everyone and the second time (arc 4, "Why didn't you hold my hand all night, you dumb nigger") was to save her.
>Why did he gave up on her?
Because he thought there was no humanly way possible to save her, and he tried several times and THEN finally gave up.
That's also the moment when he understood that "impossible" is not part of his "return by death" ability. It's literally the arc where he understands that there has to be a way or another to get over the shit he keeps getting.
>Why didn't he ever suicide for Emilia?
Anon, did you know that he committed suicide once for both of the sisters? He's clearly into Ram too.
Because he didn't have the opportunity. It was always a "He'll find Emilia dead at the end and then get skewered by someone." situation, or worse, get skewered WITH her or BY HER.
>Why does he wear a mask when he's with her and pretends to be someone he isn't?
He wears that mask with everyone else and he also does so because their relationship isn't finalized?
It's also not completely a "mask".
>If you think that it's "normal" to do that shit to the person you love then we probably just have different expectations
If he acted towards Emilia the same way he acted towards Rem, that wouldn't end well. That's because Rem already confessed to him, it would be pushing his luck and alienating Emilia if he went that far.
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>>157447811
If Subaru would act the same way he does with Rem then Emilia would understand love by now and confessed to him
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>>157447703
Didn't she? Are we going to pretend that Rem didn't try to hit on Subaru at all post From Zero and that her talks under the Flugel Tree or her tasteless fake death prank never happened? Any sane person would know who Subaru truly loved after saying "I love Emilia" but because the potato is not right in the head so.
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>>157447937
Now you're saying "Subaru is autistic.", and that's unrelated to what I said.
Although I disagree, I'd say at how ignorant she is, she'd feel crept out.
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>>157447811
>The first time he was a dick to everyone and the second time (arc 4, "Why didn't you hold my hand all night, you dumb nigger") was to save her.
Yeah but the others aren't his love interest you know?

>Because he thought there was no humanly way possible to save her, and he tried several times and THEN finally gave up.
That's also the moment when he understood that "impossible" is not part of his "return by death" ability. It's literally the arc where he understands that there has to be a way or another to get over the shit he keeps getting.
three fucking times until he gave up, kek

>Anon, did you know that he committed suicide once for both of the sisters? He's clearly into Ram too.
Because he didn't have the opportunity. It was always a "He'll find Emilia dead at the end and then get skewered by someone." situation, or worse, get skewered WITH her or BY HER.
in ep 17 she died right in front of him and he didn't consider suiciding, weird

>He wears that mask with everyone else and he also does so because their relationship isn't finalized?
It's also not completely a "mask".
again that "everyone", Emilia should be special, right? He doesn't wear a mask when he's with Rem though, guess she's more special to him

>If he acted towards Emilia the same way he acted towards Rem, that wouldn't end well.
so you think that Emilia wouldn't love the real Subaru. Well.
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>>157447992
so if I try out what Rem did then I will get whoever I want? nice
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Will there be a time I just get too bored of replying to retarded Emiliafags? I took the bait way too often, I'm sorry
>>157448148
>He doesn't wear a mask when he's with Rem though, guess she's more special to him
He tries to sometimes, she's just too good at seeing through it
>three fucking times until he gave up, kek
I think it was mostly the sudden jump from "assassins and curses" to the fucking KKK, Moby Dick and Satan
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>>157448148
>Yeah but the others aren't his love interest you know?
Want me to go into detail? You did read Arc 3, didn't you? He used the excuse of "doing it for her", anon.
>three fucking times until he gave up, kek
Yeah, three times. I'm not sure if you're in agreement with me here or not, anon.
>in ep 17 she died right in front of him and he didn't consider suiciding, weird
He was begging Beako to kill him even when he was being pushed into the portal.
>again that "everyone", Emilia should be special, right?
Yeah, to him she is special. Her though, didn't show such signs towards him. I'm sorry if you're socially incapable of grasping that.
>He doesn't wear a mask when he's with Rem though, guess she's more special to him
More like, she always did it with her too if you consider his memeboi phase to be a complete mask, I'm talking about after her coma.
>so you think that Emilia wouldn't love the real Subaru. Well.
No, rather, it's him that thinks that Emilia wouldn't love him for what he is and/or he has some social skills not to fuck up and give her a scare.
Anon, this might be fiction but fiction is written by real people. It's not a good idea to push yourself on another person if they're as ignorant as Emilia and if your relationship with them isn't that extensive.
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>>157438008
>Not him, but ripping off a confession from another girl because he can't think of how to prove his sincerity to her is pretty awful.
Give him a second/third opportunity to convey his feelings

Inspired=/=rip-off. Come on man. He's conveying his feelings like that because that exactly how he feels.

>>157438116
Not it's like he's brought Rem into every important event in his life. Besides she's comatose.
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>>157448446
To add, he's also starting to be more serious towards her and he's also trying to be "strong" for her.
Rem is simply a different issue altogether. You can think of it as how you talk to your brother
or sister about shit you wouldn't tell your mother or father, or vice-versa.

Actually, this should be more obvious in arc 4 rather than earlier arcs. Emilia is someone he thinks he needs to protect, Rem is someone he thinks doesn't need such things. It's not only a difference of character but for him, it's also a difference of power.
After all, Emilia claims in Arc 4 to be weak, and Subaru agrees.
Why would he ever falter in front of her? That would just make the situation worse for both of them.
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>>157448148
>three fucking times until he gave up, kek
I feel like From Zero speech just lost a ton of weight after knowing that Subaru already gave up only after few tries. I thought the speech was supposed to make a huge impact on Subaru after he suffered tremendously to the point where he had to give up on everything but now because his deaths don't seem to be that big of a deal, the speech also loses its effects.
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>>157448446
>He was begging Beako to kill him even when he was being pushed into the portal.
We mostly use suicide in these discussions in the sense off "actively doing something to off himself", like jumping off and slitting his throat. It's a lot harder to do than just asking someone to kill you, though there may not be that much meaning in the distinction
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Man this show had some really amazing backgrounds goddamn!

http://imgur.com/a/JsZiA
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>>157448574
> gave up only after few tries
>he suffered tremendously
I think you should stop reading the WN altogether, anon. Subaru is still suffering through his deaths, it's just that you don't feel that way after reading about it so many times.
What I mean to say is that if he gave up then, it's because the situation was of a different magnitude and if he gave up only after a few tries, it was because he didn't die that many times and he found the situation impossible.

All of you are talking as if Subaru is already a seasoned veteran and just dying a few times shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe try to judge Subaru not by his Arc 4-6 development but by what he did until the scene you're reading.
>>157448625
I didn't read Arc 3 in the WN, so I have no idea what he felt in ep 17, so I can't comment on that. His development simply wasn't at the same level as when he did it for Rem though besides it being a different situation altogether. It was a situation in which "he" killed her and went on grieving.
That was the moment when he finally got over the KKK, Moby Dick and Satan, I wouldn't except him to accept anyone on his team and close to him to die.
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Guys we have THE SAME WAIFUWAR every fucking thread
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>>157449130
I hate both Emiliafags and Remfags.
I'd say we stop talking about which ship wins until it wins.

That doesn't mean I won't correct people's mistakes on what happens in the WN.
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>>157448911
>All of you are talking as if Subaru is already a seasoned veteran and just dying a few times shouldn't be a big deal.
So it should be reasonable for Subaru to give up on Emilia and everyone after becoming so desperate and broken after dying three times in that arc? I don't know why some people just love to use the "he already gave up on Emilia after few tries so he didn't love Emilia" argument even though the number of Subaru's tries is hardly relevant in these types of discussions, his mental toughness is.
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>>157448551
>Actually, this should be more obvious in arc 4 rather than earlier arcs. Emilia is someone he thinks he needs to protect, Rem is someone he thinks doesn't need such things. It's not only a difference of character but for him, it's also a difference of power.
>After all, Emilia claims in Arc 4 to be weak, and Subaru agrees.
>Why would he ever falter in front of her? That would just make the situation worse for both of them.

Actually, he doesn't want that. He's well aware Emilia is strong, what he wants to protect is her heart so to speak. It's not so much protect as it is support it, because until till she maintain facade of bravado at hostility directed towards her when reality she just emotionally dependent as he is. This actually something he's tried to deny for a time, because in his mind Emilia was emotional stronger then she appeared. Arc 4 broke this ideal for him, but allowed him to install her with real some confidence to push herself forward even in light of her past which brought them closer before they had been.

Most of all he was others to she as Emilia and give her a chance and not as Satan reborn. That's starting to bore some fruit now since she has better relationship with villagers after this arc.
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>>157449451
>So it should be reasonable for Subaru to give up on Emilia and everyone after becoming so desperate and broken after dying three times in that arc?
He can literally give up on anyone and I'd accept it if it is his wish.
After all, as another anon said:
>KKK, Moby Dick and Satan
Arc 1 and 2 were babby's first steps.
>I don't know why some people just love to use the "he already gave up on Emilia after few tries so he didn't love Emilia" argument even though the number of Subaru's tries is hardly relevant in these types of discussions, his mental toughness is.
Pretty much, it's odd.
>>157449464
>Actually, he doesn't want that. He's well aware Emilia is strong, what he wants to protect is her heart so to speak.
Doesn't want what? Anyway, yes, he knows shes stronger than him and yes, "character" was about both of them (both Emilia and Rem), and it included their mental fortitude.
>It's not so much protect as it is support it
This is semantics, same shit. Sure though.
>because in his mind Emilia was emotional stronger then she appeared.
Yes, just like he thought Emilia isn't some kind of kid when it comes to love.
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>>157449451
What was the main reason why it was so tough for him? Why did he decide to give up? Was it the physical pain?
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>>157449849
This is literally one of those moments when "Try it for yourself" works as an argument.
No, seriously, ask someone that is adept in torture to torture you for a few days, not kill you.
Maybe even with some pauses, just a few times a month, follow Subaru's spa treatment of Doom and tell us how you feel.
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>>157449849
Well, for one the crisis and suffering not being comparable to Arc 1 and 2 and the death of the self-esteem he built up causing all his insecurities from his old life to come back.
A combination of both of these so he was convinced he could do literally nothing.
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>>157449849
Why do you have to hurt yourself by tricking yourself into believing that Subaru doesn't love Emilia? Like just accept it and move on already. It's just sad and embarrassing at this point.
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>>157449954
Well, I highly doubt that it was the physical aspect. Also, that "try it for yourself" argument doesn't really work here or are you implying that the author tried it out and knows how much someone can endure until he breaks? Subaru died for them in arc 1 and 2 as often as in arc 4 and in arc 3 he should've been way more attached to them than in the previous arcs, right?
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>>157450085
why is it not comparable to arc 1 and 2? what makes the difference?
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>Also, that "try it for yourself" argument doesn't really work here or are you implying that the author tried it out and knows how much someone can endure until he breaks?
Wew, so you are retarded.
Don't worry anon, OTHERS tried it for him and there are entire lists and even scientific articles on torture.
"Try it for yourself" just to see why he would give up, anon, it's not the same thing you're saying, by the way.
>Subaru died for them in arc 1 and 2 as often as in arc 4 and in arc 3 he should've been way more attached to them than in the previous arcs, right?
Yeah, it's too bad arc 1 and 2 we're far too different in magnitude for that to matter, you retard.
He convinced himself that it's impossible to defeat Moby Dick, the KKK and Satan. Unlike defeating a bunch of dogs with the power of a fucking Oni and an assassin that he thought wouldn't be such a big deal because he doesn't know the rules of that world.
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>>157450349
Is meant for this nigger.
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>>157450263
It's like he isn't reading the WN.
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>>157450147
Because his actions aren't convincing to me. He never really explained why he loves Emilia in first place besides the physical aspects, what is just superficial. I read one line in arc 2 when he fell in love with her that said "She is selfless and that's why he loves her" but knowing Emilia and Rem better now it's easy to tell who's actually selfless of them. I wouldn't even complain about that ship if the author could just explain it properly why Subaru is obsessed with her like Rem did it in ep 18 for example.
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>>157449196
As a Remfag myself, I know the potato's spot, it's just annoying that we have the same argument every thread.
Some Emiliafag baits and the insecure Remfags take it. I started liking Emilia by the end of A4 but she still has a long way to go if she wants to win the subarubowl
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>>157450263
You really need the difference between Elsa, Rem, Ram, dogs and all the fucking things that were out for him in Arc 3?
Or the amount of people that died in Arc 3 loops compared to Arc 1+2?
Why do I need to spell this out?
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>>157450438
If you actually read the WN/LN you would know why.
>He loved Emilia.
>He’d thought he loved her before, but now he truly knew what falling for someone meant. It was love at first sight. Just hearing her voice made his heart skip a beat. Just talking with her was so pleasant it felt like a dream.
>He couldn’t leave this girl who put herself in harm’s way for others.
>That’s why I love her, he had thought, but now he sincerely understood what he’d felt. She was the first one to save Subaru when he was summoned to another world without anyone to depend on.
>And, when he’d been backed into a dark alley of despair, it was she who had saved his dying heart. She’d saved both his life and his heart.
>—He could no longer think of living in a world without Emilia.
>He loved Emilia. He despaired at lacking the power to protect her. Life at the mansion had grown stale. He didn’t know where or when he’d be found out. He feared Ram, who commanded Blades of Wind that could slice his throat. He was terrified of Rem and her skull-crushing iron ball. Roswaal’s disturbing madness could lead him to command the twins to eliminate Subaru without mercy. Every time he woke up, he checked whether he was still alive, and he could sense himself cracking under his own constant vigilance against despair.
>These, too, were Subaru’s true, indelible feelings.
>Emilia had saved Subaru before the friction in his mind had roasted Subaru from the inside out.
>By consoling him, Emilia had pulled his heart back from the brink.

>Thinking about her filled him with life and energy. Emilia was what kept his urge to flee in check.
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>>157450349
>He convinced himself that it's impossible to defeat Moby Dick, the KKK and Satan.
He actually made it to the mansion in the third loop. He made it further with every loop. Going by that pattern he should've had success sooner or later. He only failed the third loop because he didn't want Rem to pay for it by being forgotten by everyone. Actually, Rem died in every loop mostly because of him and that had the most impact on his psyche. If it was really too much for him too handle then he would've also given up on Rem after she rejected his offer to run away but he didn't and he decided to keep trying after getting some motivation. Simply put it was easier for him to give up on everyone then to see someone die because of his shit over and over again.
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>Emiliafags
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>>157450788
It's just one person.
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