Dragon Ball Super

>>157329190
>use portal with left hand
>right hand hit
yeah sure

>>157331079

Are you trolling anon?

I can't tell because I am autistic, so you need to explain it to me.

>>157333635
Make fists with both hands and examine them from the angles show in the panels. Zamasu sticks his left hand into the portal, but his right one comes out.

>>157333784
shown*

>>157333784
>>157333823

If you can move an object across space why wouldn't you be able to change the side? Why would moving through space be weirder than that?
Is it that thing about suspension of disbelief where the impossible is more believe than the improbable?

>>157334148
Why can't you just admit that Toyo fucked up? It's not a big deal. By coming up with excuses you make Toyo fans look worse and perpetuate the shitposting for and against Toyo.

>>157334148
i think the thing about it is that when you introduce a new kind of "impossible" mechanic in a piece of fiction it's expected to behave in a logically parsimonious manner, i.e. no more new rules than necessary, and to flatter the reader's intuition when it comes to everyday experiences (in this case translations in space). whether something is possible isn't really the issue so much as whether something is elegantly impossible or jarringly impossible.

>>157334236

Think about it this way; If you were to rip your arm out of your body you could easily make the thumb look towards you, same way a portal doesn't really need to me direct hole that go one way and the other, since .

I mean, it could easily be that Toyo meant to do it the other way, but it's not at all possible, ridiculous, necessary, for that to be a right arm when it's not currently working within the limitation needed to prove it a right arm by the evidence of the thumb alone. Same way you could get a thumb looking up through a portal and get a thumb down , because It really doesn't need to be looking the same way as there is no limit to the way it could move. I don't see why It should be a problem, or something worth noting. That's all.

>>157334470

That I can agree with, simply put it needs to make sense within context. My point on the arm thing was more about how it's hardly really impossible, nor do I thought it important enough, but I might had underestimated that detail.

>>157334848
>need to me direct hole that go one way and the other, since .

Shit, I was halfway writing that while reading something else, It came out really weird. I need to start proof reading stuff

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>>157334848

Shit's weird.

So Toyotaro has never been a professional manga artist before? Like his entire career has been trying to copy Toriyama's style?

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Reminder.

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>>157329190
Daily reminder that they have the same age.

>>157340193
I will have you know that I am a male majoring in womens studies right now. Men are the problem, it is a hard pill to swallow. I know. But one needs to accept that what the feminist say is correct. I believe that women are superior. AS a wise man once said, "it is foolish for women to pretend they are equall to men. they are and always will be superior". I have watched many documentary's about the plight of women in this country. I am that liberal in class. I pride myself in it. I regulary browse r/shitredditsays .
I hate toriyama or his shit use of women. I have always thought dragon ball to be a sexist series with a sexist creator.
Fuck off and d go kill your sexist self who only thinks as women as objects to fap to

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Who took care of them when they were babies?

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What'd I miss from last thread, boys?

>>157340253
Mio?!

>>157340262
kill yourself

>>157340253
They were probably living in an orphanage.

>>157340249
will tien do anything during the tournament or will he just job to jiren in the first minute?

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Here's that sketch for the guy that requested it... Didn't turn out too good lol

>>157340262
Toyocucks damage controlling asual

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>>157340335

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worst girl

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>>157340335
That head is too big anon

>>157339957
> It's not necessarily an inconsistent scene at all because we don't know how much time the fusion have
I was arguing against the remaining time because you were pretending that you know how many minutes are left.

What i'm saying is that, even though he tortured them at the beginning because he wasn't aware of the time limit, now that he was almost killed by them, now that he's aware of the time limit, he's still doing the same shit

>Which means nothing because we don't know how many time he have.
The point is that he's losing times, how could he know about his minutes left when he wasn't even aware of his time limits

>Are you even trying? Gohan was the only one remotely close to Cell's power so if Cell didn't tried to kill Gohan as soon he arrived Earth, he was playing, it doesn't matter if he killed other people, he was playing.
Hahahaha, he wanted to fight Gohan to kill him, then he tried to kill Vegeta because vegeta went for him directly.

Cell can sense energy, he know that he can't kill gohan easily.

Did you forget that Cell decided to launch a kamehameha when Gohan was weakened enough, with the goal to kill him?

>And he was still playing with them
His strenght isn't time limited and he wasn't almost killed by them.
He killed dende because he was afraid of zenkai, nice try

>Not an argument, he still played a lot. Why not go bulky or destroy Namek (or Namek's core) before?
But he tried but was afraid to create an explosion too strong which could have killed him.

That's why he didn't try to launch a new attack against namek's core and rather waiting for it to explode itself.

This way, the explosion might not be strong enough to kill him, goku could have then died in space

>>157340335
It's the thought that counts. Thanks drawanon!

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Why didn't Goku suggest Yamcha as the island caretaker? The kids need an adult watching over them

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>I fused with Black because Goku and Vegeta were a threat to me
>Vegeto told me that my fusion is time limited
>Shit I must kill my enemies as fast as possible
>What should I do?
>Why not playing again with base goku and base vegeta, they seems to be tougher when they are not using SSB
>Why not letting my enemies getting healed by a guy I should have killed minutes ago

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Hey guys, Broly here. I'd like you to meet my girlfriend, Marisa.

>>157340249
Is this official art?

>>157340451
Yes.

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Still doing requests

>>157339957
>your only argument is that villains who are (at that part of the story) invincible don't play with their enemies after having bad times with them

Piccolo Daimao didn't you fucking piece of shit.

Fucking newfags who never read DB

>>157340249
yamamuro should be shot

>>157340448
Wow Broly! You really calmed down and turned into a stand up guy since you started dating!

>>157340458
>>157340451

No. It's been debunked.

>>157340481
I like that Manga Black.

>>157340503
Thanks
Just found my pencil so time to do some good shit brb

>>157340470
>finally master the form now

How and why?


>also Vegeta is worse than Goku as usual
Goku and Vegeta are supposed to be close in term of strenght in the manga.

I though toyocucks cared about consistency, weird

>>157340481
when did black have those chin horns?
I still can't get over how shit he is

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>>157340498
She really brings out the best in me.

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>>157340456

Thank you, anon! You're such a sweetheart!

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Daily reminder that Super ruined best girl.

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>Leddit, who are usually toyocucks hate now the actual chapter
>Nips, who made fun of the HOMAGES from the previous chapter, now hate the actual one
>Only a few toyocucks actually defend it

>>157340332
he is going to do a kikohu to throw away a bunch of nobodies before losing because he was to focused on killing the nobodies.

>>157340623
Daily reminder that you have shit taste.

>>157340481
How about Hit making donuts?

Why does this future trucks have blue hair when future trucks during cell had purple hair?

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>>157340624
I'm enjoying it right now:

Their delusion is so good to see

reminder Super is shit and as bad a GT at this point, Toyofags and Toeicucks are both deluded and that DBZ ended in namek

>>157340451
These are Dokkan card arts

>>157340703
He got older and his weird genes smoothed out as his hair color faded from its lavender shade into a more gentle Bulma-blue, before it'll gray over the decades.

>>157340624
What was the homage this chapter?

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>>157340699
I'll try

>>157340624
We don't care what Reddit thinks

>searching "android 8" is slowly going to stop having eighter be on the first page of results
it hurts

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>>157340713
Even an random anon made the manga much much much better by just changing somes lines

>>157340760
I was talking about the 3 HOMAGES from the previous chapter, the nips made fun of it.

Now they shit on the leaks itself

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>>157340713
>West Black will never hold down both Mai and Trunks as she savages them both and forces them to hold hands and look each other in the eye as they're violated

Is that Lila Black?

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>Goku and Vegeta are the first ones to get thrown out
>The strongest one of them is now Frieza

>>157340801
You didn't say that when they sucked toyo's cock month ago.

Now since chapter 23, they are dissapointed, same thing for the nips.

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>>157340807
Have an update of that anon.
>>157340775
>>157340820
I'm curious too. I want to save it if it is.

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>>157340862
Thanks a lot anon

Have a funny pic

>>157340862
god dammit

I'd be so into Lila and Goku just getting REALLY into pushing and testing each other and loving it

How do we achieive peace between thos who like faulconer and those who don't? Why argue?
Why not live with the fact that not everyone thinks like you and that that is okay

>>157340860
>You didn't say that when they sucked toyo's cock month ago.

Just because I prefer the manga doesn't mean I suck Toyo's dick. The anime was shit for a long time, still is desu

frieza better become a recurring character

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I love Krillin!

>>157340820
Who?

>>157340911
He's doomed to it, now. He'll become calm and peaceful. He'll fall, just like the rest.

>>157340899
I wish I was an innocent kid again

>>157340906
The manga is getting shittier and shittier as the chapters come out.

Actually, I didn't hated champa's arc in the manga, the beggining of black's arc was also good.

But now, it's shit

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>>157340914
I love Goku!

>>157340899
I like HFIL desu

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>>157340699
Here
>>157340820
Yeah

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>>157340914

>>157340942
he doesn't have to become a good guy, he just has to stop wanting to kill everything

>>157340937
i meant to quote >>157340775

>>157340983
thanks

>>157340975
...this is a weird weird alt timeline.

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Best female Kaioshin coming through

>>157340998
>he doesn't have to become a good guy, he just has to stop wanting to kill everything

Well, yeah. That's what I said. Like that's all you need. Just drop the murderous intent and boom you're on Team Goku, where you always win.

>>157340801
I love both version but no one care about what you think you fucking furry

A reminder Goku Black is Future Goten.

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>>157340975
Who the fuck is that supposed to be? Goku?

>>157340983
noice

>>157341045
It... no. It can't be. He has a portara on. So does 18. And he's God. Like what the FUCK is this timeline even

>>157341045
Who else would it be?

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>>157340914
>tfw you have to call your best friend to satisfy your wife

>>157341032
>ust drop the murderous intent and boom you're on Team Goku, where you always win.
Well Vegeta hasn't really been winning much after joining team Goku, in fact he's become the designated Jobber.

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>>157341064
>>157341071
Senor Tablos.

>>157341092
It's the team that wins, who gives a shit about the individuals. You're on Team Goku guess what *you get to have a future*

>>157340550
>How and why?
Are you trolling? It's the same retarded question that you guys asked with Vegeta's training. If he needs time until being able to do it, he will do so only when enough time has passed.
It was not enough at the beginning of arc but it's at the end, what's wrong with it?

>They're supposed to be close in strength in the manga
strenght =/= ability
Goku being a genius while Vegeta spends his time in forcing trainings isn't new. Goku masters SSB by himself, while Vegeta needs to train to come across SSB's cooldown because he's still far from master the form.

>>157340975
I have many questions

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>>157341075
Delet this

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>>157340975
I hate Goku!

>>157341111
No man this is like some weird weird Black variant. Zamasu using Goku and 18's bodies?

jesus fuck what would that even be for a fusion

>>157336254

Feels like he did it cause its just easier to draw that side of the fist and thought nobody would notice.

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>>157341075
>krillin will never share his wife with you

>>157341122
>It's the same retarded question that you guys asked with Vegeta's training
i wasn't the one who asked that for vegeta, his switch was pretty smart, but he needed time for that.

Goku didn't trained as much as Vegeta but somehow, Full master SSB.

>strenght =/= ability
Yeah but genius=/=asspull ruining Vegeta's training

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Leave the Gods to me.

>>157341132
Weren't you banned on /co/?

>>157341229
Sorry buddy. A little twin set of turds got you beat. Demons can never, ever slaughter as many Gods as the Gods themselves can.

>>157341132
>>157341253
RIP Shaggyfag.

>>157341122
>It was not enough at the beginning of arc but it's at the end what's wrong with it?
>What's wrong with asspull being convenient

>>157341253
wtf dude I never went to /co/

>>157341132
Shit taste.

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>>157340983
>my feet hurt
>why are cabba's side chicks licking me?
>i wish i was at home making donuts
>i wonder what goku's up to?
>i'm such a dick head
>is frost still a wanted man?
>how long can you move within frozen time?

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>"Vaya, Un Torneo del Poder, suena interesante, puedo unir?"

What would you do?

>>157341229

Damn , that looks stupid.

>>157341253
Kek. Anyone have that screencap?

>>157341320
I don't speak spic.

>>157341229
this is what Heroes has become basically, Heroes has made AF canon.

>>157341320
His autism will fuck everyone

>>157341229
and this is why buu was so much better

what is more horrifying than a 'demon' who is older than Hell itself, looks like a fat idiot bubblegum genie, and absorbs you before beating the rest to death with candy magic

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Reminder

>>157341406
Hey Buu is not an idiot

>>157341132
I like how his dogi changes

>>157341320
build a wall around the ring

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>>157341319

>>157341223
>i wasn't the one who asked that for vegeta
That's why I said "guys"

>Goku didn't trained as much as Vegeta but somehow, Full master SSB.
Repeating myself, Goku being a genius while Vegeta spends his time forcing trainings isn't new.

>asspull
Learn what that word means before use it

>>157341283
See above

>>157341320
You know that's broken spanish right?

>>157341432
>Hey Buu is not an idiot

Oh yeah, asshole? Who's in the universal tournament, huh? Who. Tell me.

>>157341477
>Goku being a genius while Vegeta
So i guess Goku don't need to train since he's a genius.

>Learn what that word means before use it
>Full mastering SSB out of nowhere, just because he used it enough CONVENIENTLY at the moment where he needed it the most

>>157341517
>dude's sleepy
>It must mean he's an idiot
"no"

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You have to be trolling to say the manga is shit. It's literally impossible to actually think it's shit otherwise, since it's so superior to the writing of the anime.

>>157341474
Would've been funnier without the sweatdrop.

>>157341553
Who is in the universal tournament?

Tell me.

>>157341512
>implying you know more than google translator

lmao at your life

>>157341570
Will you eat a dog's shit just because it's better than a cow's shit?

>>157340624
reddit always hated the manga. An easy way to get upvotes is to shit on the manga with incorrect info.

reddit is the biggest gathering of toeishills in the world

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>>157340624
Source? Prove it faggot toeishill. Link me to the Japanese hating the manga

You can't.

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Super Saiyan Suit when?

>>157341638
>reddit always hated the manga
You're lying, they were sucking toyo's cock (finally a good power scaling, vegeta switch is so GOOD, I LOVE SSG) but stopped since chapter 23

>>157341694
No they weren't you lying faggot. I can name 3 users who constantly get upvoted for shitting on the manga
You're so full of shit, not even these assholes here are falling for your horseshit.

>>157341320
The autor of that is from spain not from tacoland

>>157341681
>Link me
>Being this new
You need to go back

>No they weren't you lying faggot
You're the one lying here

>I can name 3 users who constantly get upvoted
I can do more with those who sucked toyo's cock

>>157341683
The suit fits Vegeta perfectly. Goku just looks so out of place in one tho.

>>157341683
I swear every picture of adult Gohan makes him look like a nu-male. Yet Gohanfags defend this.

>>157341752
You can't prove it. What a shock you dumb piece of shit.

>>157341788
That's Goku you rancid piece of vomit shit

>>157341788
That's Goku you fucking dumbass.

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>Right in front of him
>uses a portal to punch him

>>157341715
>No they weren't you lying faggot

Just tap "reddit dbs chapter (any number before 23)".

Please show me a chapter that is in majority disliked beside 23 and 24

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How did we go from this...

>>157341789
>You can't prove it

I will not spoonfeed a newfags who isn't even aware of the japanses imagesboards.

>>157341829
dude they're way way too eager to trip over themselves to scream GOHAN JOB FAG GOHAN JOB SHILL KEK SHILL VEGETA they don't even look or think at what they're doing

like watching dogs run into a fence

>>157341820
>>157341829

>All this asshurt

Sorry I skipped episodes past the 2 movie arcs like /a/ told me to.

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>>157341870
...to this?

>>157341880
>"I can't back up my bullshit lie."

We know faggot

>>157341875
>Showing me a topics about a war
>Ignore the one about each chapter

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>>157341788
Here's a (You)

>>157341737
>Ostia, una Onda Vital, suena que te cagas en el ojete, puedo ir a todo gas?

>>157341910
>>157341880
Should we spoonfeed him?

He may enjoy the shotas in it

>>157341895
Never listen to /a/, especially if a toyopedro is recommending you the manga

>>157341546
>So i guess Goku don't need to train since he's a genius.
So I guess you have no argument. Goku is superior, he didn't trained his kame, he mastered KK when its fucking creator wasn't able to even use the technique, he became SS3 while Vegeta was only SS2, he even absorbed SSG power in the old canon because protagonist magic. Sorry if you don't like it.

>conveniently = asspull
Yeah, no.

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>>157341911
>"th-th-that doesn't count even though it's clear evidence

Holy kek, what a bitch

>>157341944
Who hurt you, Homero? It was El Guason?

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drawing girls is way more fun than dudes

>>157341944
Top memes.

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>>157342053
girls are also more fun to fap to

>>157342053
there are a couple of things that make drawing females harder than drawing males for me, personally

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>>157342005
It was Lobezno

>>157341683
>there will never be an Ace Attorney parody with these designs

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>>157342077
Oh wow, the threads dedicated to the manga have manga fans, WHAT A FUCKING SHOCK!

The anime threads have way more comments and posters, and way more upvotes, I guess that means they like the anime more right? You're an idiot holy shit

Post pro manga comments outside of the chapter threads, and you immediately get people telling you it sucks.

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OK this is fucking cool

>>157342092
I kinda wanna draw something lewd, any suggestion?
>>157342095
Really? I suck horrible at drawing men. Granted I'm girl so maybe I just get that anatomy better. Guys are so angular

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>linking to reddit
Just kill these threads already

>>157342125
>Lobezno
Who? You mean Leonardo, the Aguja Dinamica?

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>>157342131
Feels bad, man.
At least we have some classy suits.

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>>157342175
>I kinda wanna draw something lewd, any suggestion?

Anything with Caulifla, please. She's pretty easy to draw

>>157342077
>master a form with months of advantage vs go from SS2 to SSGSS-like via REEEEEEEEEEEE
I guess you aren't trying anymore

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>>157342264
Not oppai again, man.

>>157342264
No, fuck this anon and his shit taste, draw something with Kus, the loli angel

>>157342264
My bby <3 Aight brb

>>157342077
>The manga is better in that it explains a lot of things the anime just implies (though sometimes a bit too much), it uses more transformations, and some of the fights are very fun and creative. But the writing is BORING. It might be because the anime was already out, but how Black was handled ("I wonder who this Black fella is" "Hey, I just heard Zamasu asked about Goku and if it was possible to switch bodies with the Dragon Balls!") was atrocious, made even worse by how Black was turned into a generic bully (cocky when in control, throws sissy fits when someone is better)

Did you even read these threads?

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So Cell totally had Saiyan cells and a Super Saiyan aura. And Frieza/King Cold cells. Could he conceivabley go SSB or Golden? Could he be made relevant again?

>>157342303
can do Kus too. Ahegao faces okay?

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>>157342162
MORE LEAKS!!!

>>157341953
>protagonist magic

You hate it when toei does it but like it when Toyo does it.

I though consistency was important to you

Kek!

>>157342158


>Oh wow, the threads dedicated to the manga have manga fans, WHAT A FUCKING SHOCK!

I was talking about them, they are the one discussing of each chapter, WHAT A SURPRISE

>The anime threads have way more comments and posters, and way more upvotes, I guess that means they like the anime more right?

My point is that those who usually, like the manga hate the actual chapter

If I said that 4chan hate something, does it mean that every poster hate it?

>>157342242
Quote it then.

I hope you weren't talking about the one making fun of niggastream

>>157342296
>master a form with months of advantage CONVENIENTLY as the moment where he needed it the most

>>157342310
You should read the other comments

When will these Toyopedros admit that the manga is garbage?

>Goku on pair with Merged Zamasu

Fucking garbage holy shit

>>157342077
>They are literally linking Reddit now

wew lad

and /a/ thinks Naruto threads are shit

>>157342361
Click the link retard, I linked it for you

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OVERFLOWING CHIKARA

>>157342346
nobody cares fuck Cell

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>>157342303
>shit taste

At least reserve your judgement until we get a few more minutes of her screentime.

>>157342383
I wasn't the one who did it first though

>>157342392
Did you even read the responses to this comment?

Are you this retarded?

>>157342429
He has more upvotes than the responses you idiot.

>>157342361
>You hate it when toei does it but like it when Toyo does it.
That protagonist magic (which was an actual asspull. Master a SS form isn't a new thing) was Toriyama's and I didn't bitch about it you autist

>conveniently = asspull
Anon... you know you can't push this bullshit. Just stop shitposting.

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>people are unironically linking and quoting reddit posts
maybe it's time for this old fogey to move on

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>>157342368
>Goku on pair with Merged Zamasu
Yep pure garbage I swear
We know Goku is stronger than merged Zamasu!

>>157342403
>Goku actually pushing Merged Zamasu without surprise effect

>>157342477
>Only 2 more upvote
Wow, are you even trying?

>>157342518


>That protagonist magic (which was an actual asspull. Master a SS form isn't a new thing) was Toriyama's and I didn't bitch about it you autist
So not only, it's ok to do the same shit as before (goku saving magically the day) but explanation aren't needed for it?

What was the point of Vegeta's training if Goku only needed a few minutes to master SSB?

>>157342077

And Gohan will have his own transformation too that will put him on Blue level like SSJ Ikari did for Trunks.

>>157342533
did they died?

>>157342425
almost every other main antagonist from Z has been befriended or rematched. Whats wrong with Cell?

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>Humans fusion is less than an hour, it used to be longer in the days of Buu

Gowasu you old fuck

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>>157342533
Torankusu is so fucking pure...!

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Goku actually fighting on par with Zamasu

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Zamasu is such a goddamn failure in the manga

>>157342604
>>Humans fusion is less than an hour, it used to be longer in the days of Buu

What?

Vegeto seemed to last a lot before, he was playing with buu

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>>157342604
That senile old fuck needs to die, he doesn't know what he's doing with his job.

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>>157342537
they're actually using terms like upvote unironically
this shit used to be a bannable offence, but I guess they need these containment threads.

>>157342643
>>157342672
Okay I give up.

This is shit at this point

I mean it, I loved the previous chapter but merged zamasu and goku were a mistake

>>157340361
What happens if you fuck one of those green girls?

What would you actually be fucking?

>>157342686
>That senile old fuck needs to die, he doesn't know what he's doing with his job.

Why are the Supreme Kais so damn inept?

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>>157342643
>>157342672
>Guy one shotted two SSB a chapter ago
>Struggle against one now
>MUH STAMINA

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>>157342743
What the fuck is happening in the fucking manga?

They're all fucking careless, they're basically playing

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>>157342743

>>157342743
Good job!

>>157342162
>Ripping off Wakfu

bravo Toyo.

>>157342770
zamasu doesn't look hurt there dude, vegeta just shoved him back

>>157342770
Merged zamasu is a joke in the manga.

In the anime, you know that if trunks didn't stopped Zamasu's attack, Base Goku and Base Vegeta would have died.

Here, I can't even describe it.

>>157342770
>yeah instead of killing him by strangling I will just leave him unconscious and start my ningen monologue

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What were /a/'s initial reactions to this trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe26NiqOxIA

>>157342716
>dissing the top 4 + Kai
Only the relevant ones are incompetent.

>>157342811
And he's able to do it while being in base form and damaged because?

>>157342836

He doesn't even care about his time limit, what a competent villain

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FATHER I'M A USELESS BOY

>>157342743
>>157342770
What the fuck is Zamasu even trying to do here, choke him? Why the fuck would you choke someone with your finger tips?

>>157342643
Okay, so Goku is stronger than Beerus now, right? He's matching a fusion between a Rose Super Saiyan God and a Kaioshin.

>Did I say tree? I meant to say your power was like a grain of sand compared to the gigantic mountain that is Lord Beerus' power.

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>>157342880
FATHER

>>157342873
>And he's able to do it while being in base form and damaged because?
why are you asking me? i don't fucking know. all i know is you said vegeta damaged zamasu, and that didn't happen
to be fair though, we know that characters can do crazy shit if they use all their energy for an explosion, like majin vegeta did against boo, but obviously this is a bit different because vegeta didn't die

>>157342570
>he keeps putting words in my mouth
>he keeps ignoring previous explanations about it
>he keeps pretending is Goku who will defeat Zamasu
You don't even deserve replies

>hur hur what's the point
What was the point of Vegeta's training if Goku mastered SS at Cell arc?
No, in fact, that was actually pointless because at least Vegeta's training in DBS made him equal to Goku when we are talking about the stamina drain. Vegeta don't lose stamina because he switchs between SSG and SSB, Goku don't lose stamina because he seal his power in his body, now they are paired (pure strength aside).

>also
>Goku only needed a few minutes to master SSB
>A FEW MINUTES when he has been using the form for 4 years
You are objectively retarded or shitposter.

>>157342674
He humilliated him for half an hour at the absolute tops. Unless we're to believe the standing around and talking is in real time, but then we'd have to believe Gotenk's five minutes were in Namek Time too.

I change my opinion after seeing these leaks. This chapter is fucking awesome.

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>>157342922
No, he's still an ant to Beerus. Only SSB Vegetto is Beerus tier. You need to be able to toy with Merged Zamasu to be Beerus level. Goku is struggling

Here's Vegeta saying he's determined to live and choosing that over pride

>>157342891
Crush the windpipe directly? Though it would have been much faster if he'd just used his aura sword.

>this retardation again

Merged Zamasu NEVER was Vegetto/Beerus tier you dumbfucks. Merged Zamasu is a fusion between a SSGSS tier guy and a SS3 tier brat, is slightly stronger than the SSGSS tier one but it's not a big difference, it can't be a big difference unlike it happens when two SSGSS tier fighters fuse into fucking Vegetto.
Merged Zamasu is significantly stronger than SSR Black and "perfect SSB" Goku is significantly stronger than the old SSB Goku so he can stand out

>>157342880
>Even though I've fused because they almost killed me
>EVen though they almost killed me with Vegeto
>Even though my strenght will not last forever
>I'm still playing like I did a chapter ago

>>157342938
>why are you asking me? i don't fucking know. all i know is you said vegeta damaged zamasu
Wasn't me, I was just aking you why he's able to do that in the first place?

>majin vegeta did against boo
If goku SS2=Vegeta majin
If goku SS3=4xSS2

Then the Gap between Buu's power and Vegeta's power wasn't as big as the Gap between Vegeta's and Merged Zamasu

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>mangacucks are STILL in the Zamasu arc

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>>157340775
I like your style man.

>>157343036
Why laugh? The current anime arc is god damn terrible, it's been terrible filler for way too long. And now that Buu is out of the picture the only reason to watch this is to see the Broly girl.

>>157343021
>Then the Gap between Buu's power and Vegeta's power wasn't as big as the Gap between Vegeta's and Merged Zamasu
oh believe me, i know this is different. i'm just saying maybe toyo/tori intended this to be similar to majin vegeta vs boo. chiautzu was able to do the same thing too
this is just guesswork though

>>157342942
>if Goku mastered SS
He did it without training I guess?

>>A FEW MINUTES when he has been using the form for 4 years
You are objectively retarded or shitposter.

HAHA

>Using SSB since 4 years
>Suddenly mastered it now, at the moment where he needed it the most

> so scared of showing blood they don't even give roshi a bleeding nose when he's perving out

They're so weird about it too since they're fine with showing people get killed as long as no blood is shown

>>157342977
Yeah the fight looks great and the lore is great too. I like seeing Goku struggle to control SSB, and again Toyotaro without "homages" makes a great looking fight

MZ is dumb for not immediately killing off Goku and Vegeta though

>>157329190
Why is zamasu jobbing to Goku now?
Jesus, toyble literally can't stop sucking off vegeta and Goku's dick.

>>157342955
>He humilliated him for half an hour at the absolute tops

Still much longer than in DBS.

Gowasu seems to implies that it's the humans fault if the fusion is short, not because of their power.

Which is retarded since it should applies to SSJ vegeto in Buu's arc

>>157343036
>canon is still in the last canon arc so far

Yes... so?

>>157343059
thanks

>>157342977
>change my opinion
>The leaks still showing the same shit
>Vegeta is struggling
>Goku saving the day
>Change my opinion

>>157343134
The whole retcon is retarded. There was literally nothing wrong with Buu's magic mojo interfering with the potara's power. Now we have to believe the time JUST HAPPENED to run out exactly when Vegeto lowered his barrier inside buu.

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>>157343100
Super's target audience in Chinese kids. Explicit violence isn't allowed on Chinese television period.

>>157343135
The anime is canon though, the manga is an adaptation, just like the games.

Not that being canon is any kind of quality assurance when discussing toriyama's dragon ball post Z.

>>157343183
DBS is a mess.

Anime and Manga are both shit

>>157343089
>He did it without training I guess?
4 years of training you mean.

>HAHA
Shitposter then

>his argument is STILL conveniently = asspull
I guess you believe every fictional story is literally built with asspulls

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>>157343216
>this whole post

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>>157343216
sorry bud

>>157343220
>4 years of training you mean.
Yet, SSB drained a lot of his stamina chapters ago, but now, FULL MASTERED.

>I guess you believe every fictional story is literally built with asspulls

I guess SSJikara make sense then.
He's an hybrid saiyan, never stopped fighting...etc

Goku was one shotted by merged zamasu a chapter ago, but now, not only he full mastered SSB only at this moment and not before, giving him a HUGE powerboost, to the point of fighting on par with merged zamasu

>>157343264
>Toriyama is getting outperformed by Toei

What a tragic fucking day to live in.

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>>157343264
But the anime is the one MOST people will associate the canon with, mangacuck.

Normies ain't got time for reading Nip comic books.

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>>157343218
>this

>>157343216
I agree with your second sentence.

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>>157343319
>But the anime is the one MOST people will associate the canon with, mangacuck.
most people are wrong

> It's another Vegeta and Trunks do nothing while Goku gets all the glory chapter
BRAVO TOYO.

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Oh shit, Trunks subconsciously healed Mai and Gowasu when he touched them back then. Good shit Toyo.

>>157343319
Even the nips shit on the actuals leaks.

They are laughing now about the new leaks.

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>>157343264
>Toriyama is not directly involved with the anime production

How is this a bad thing, again? We're not dealing with 80s/90s Toriyama here. He's a senile old man now.

>>157342533
Trunks actually healed Mai and that's how she survived Black's attack long enough for him to return with the senzu

Trunks also healed Gowasu and that's how he survived Black's stabbing. He was unconsciously healing both of them by a tiny bit since he couldn't control it. Good writing toyo

>>157343252
>>157343264
Why do you guys keep arguing this shit? The anime comes first so it's the 'primary' canon, while the manga comes much later thus it's the rep as being secondary.

Not that it matters much anyways.

>>157343358
>Trunks has magical healing hands

Good fucking christ.

>>157343358
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!

No seriously, it could have been great if it was hinted at least but no.

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Sorry it took so long but I had a lot of fun doing Kus!! Any other ahegao faces?

>>157343370
For what fucking purpose?
It adds nothing to the story and only manages to loo retarded because it's attempting to fix what wasn't even broken.
It's like Toyble is trying to make the manga retroactively shitty as well.

>>157343358
Wait, what. Fucking lol.

>>157342533

Its more that he could bring them back to life, Trunks is now Jesus, lolwat.

Where are all these Toeicucks coming from? It's probably just one assblasted samefag

>>157343370
>Good writing toyo

No, it's added out of nowhere, it could have been good if it was hinted, it wasn't

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How did he do it? The manga was going well, got a bit bumpy during the black arc and Black was much better in the anime, but then previous chapter it instantly turned to shit, and this chapter is just as garbage.

Dropped.

>>157343496
>Where are all these Toyocucks coming from? It's probably just one assblasted samefag

FIFY

>>157343358

Rofl, this is a cheap copy of NNT when Elizabeth could also heal subconsciously.

>>157343310
>he didn't mastered the form until the form was mastered!
Wow you are right Toyble is a hack

>-You should believe every story is built with asspulls if you think something is an asspull because it's conveniently
>+Then this actual asspull is fine!
I don't even know how your brain works and I don't even want to know it.
Kys I'm sick of this shit.

>Trunks is a literal OC donut steel in both versions
>Black is also literal fanfiction
wew super jumped the shark with the shitfest that was FT arc

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>>157343358

>>157343358

Congrats Toyo, you are now another Kubo.

Trunks is Orihime 2.0.

>>157343396
>>157343501
It was hinted you fucking retard. They both moved after Trunks touched them. It was revealed they survived after Trunks touched them
People thought it was lazy, now that we have the explanation, you're shitting on it because "muh anime and manga wars"
fuck off with the shitposting

So why do people think Vegeta was stronger than Goku at this point in the manga just because he mastered quick-switching between red and blue forms when it's implied that Goku already knows how to do it?

>>157343501
>it's added out of nowhere
But that's wrong, anon. Now stay mad

>>157343551
It doesn't matter, making it so he is mastering last fucking minute just reeks of shitty writing.
Add to the fact the aspull is meant to be for Goku when other characters who are in serious need of a powerup to be relevant are left in the dust.

The Anime is better because it at least gave trunks some spotlight on his arc instead of sucking off Goku's dick 4/5ths of it.

>trunksfags will defend this

>>157343541
Toyotaro is well know for that

>Wow you are right Toyble is a hack
Yes, because he mastered it NOW, when a chapter ago, SSB was still draining a lot of stamina to him, but now it ismastered AT THIS MOMENT.

>I don't even know how your brain works and I don't even want to know it.
>Kys I'm sick of this shit.

Yeah, i'm sick of your bullshit.

It's ok for a main protagonist to have "convenient asspull" for you (struggled just minutes ago but now full mastered SSB at the right moment, just like that, giving him a HUGE POWER BOOST making him able to fight against a fused fighter)

Only you defend this shit, the majority shit on it

>>157343541
Yeah, just like how NNT stole virtually everything from DBZ and Fairy Tail

>>157343591
It doesn't matter if it's hinted.
Trunks having magic healing powers adds literally NOTHING to the story.
Making this development now is completely unecessary.

>>157343591
>It was hinted
No it wasn't, they were still laying down until SENZU

>>157343658

Erza vs Irene >Goku vs Merged Zamasu.

>>157343661
>Trunks saving everyone's ass adds nothing!
Anon...

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>>157343661
>It doesn't matter if it's hinted.
....ok we're done here
>>157343687
>No it wasn't, they were still laying down until SENZU
But you're wrong. Gowasu showed movement before the senzu. Mai did as well
I hope you're shitposting and that's all

>>157343658
NNT is much better than the anime and the manga

>>157343712
He was saying that we didn't needed explanation for Mai and Gowasu, remember the senzu?

>>157343712
all it did was invalidate something that just happened, so yeah, it is literally adding nothing.

>>157343772
That's fake, no way

>>157342846
mite b cool

>>157343565
Let's be real, the U6 arc was dogshit.

>>157343727
>But you're wrong. Gowasu showed movement before the senzu. Mai did as well

I was wrong here I admit

>>157341895
The suits are from the Arale episode which is after the Black arc.

>>157343430
Whis.

>>157343809
dude, the movie was rough

>>157343816
No you're not.

Mai didn't showed movement thanks to trunks, it was thanks to the sensu beans

>>157343727
Only Gowasu, not Mai you fucking liar

>>157343591
>>157343727

That's a hint that they barely survived, not a hint that trunks had magical healing powers out of fucking nowhere. You need to hint a lot fucking more if a ridiculous asspull of that size is what you're going with.

>>157341895
>Outfit from episode 69
>Sorry I skipped past the first two movie arc
What did he mean by this

>>157343727
Please nigger, get out of this board.
Trunks having magic healing powers adds nothing to the story, it doesn't amend any holes in toyble's writing and the development is just all around contrived.
>hurr they moved
Even dead bodies twitch and move on their own, not an argument.

>>157343712
It's far easier to believe Black just sucks at killing people and left them on the brink of death instead, which would be consistent with the failure that F. Zamasu is right now.

Trunks' healing magic is irrelevant.

>>157343889
>Extreme QUALITY for DBZ is the average character artstyle for DBS

Incredible.

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>>157343864
>Only Gowasu, not Mai you fucking liar
Moron. Mai moves her head to the other side as the cat licks her.
>>157343866
You're an idiot
Toeishills really are morons

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>>157343809
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>157343937
You love incompetent Black huh?

Why is goku suddenly able to fight on par with Merged Zamasu?

Let's admit that mastering (suddenly) SSB give you a huge power boost, how is it able to close the gap between SSB and a guy who ONESHOTTED both SSB?

>>157343975
That is not an hint, Gowasu's movement was an hint but not Mai.

It just mean that she's still alive, you cannont interpret it otherwise.

>>157344024
Zamasu is supposed to be competent in the manga.

He was about to end SSJ Goku, killed all the ningens.

Now, he play with them, even though he was almost killed by Vegeto, even though his strenght is limited in time

>Toyofags have nothing to refute so they start posting cherrypicked bad art screencaps

>>157344036
>It just mean that she's still alive, you cannont interpret it otherwise.
Except the fucking chapter today just told us she survived because of Trunks. It's a hint

It shows you Mai survived, you assume Black just failed to kill her then find out it's because Trunks healed her without realizing. But since he's unaware of what he's doing he only heals them a bit, since we see from Kibito you need your hands to stay on them to heal to full

>>157344036
Honestly I don't know. I chalk it up to exhaustion, the manga never said anything about Zamasu having infinite ki did it?

this place is such shit. Even after being proven wrong, people are grasping at straws to bitch about the chapter because they feel like they must win

I hope you're not grown adults doing this. Fucking cancer.