Portals and suffering
Who would have thought killing an immortal god would be so hard?
If you can move an object across space why wouldn't you be able to change the side? Why would moving through space be weirder than that?
Is it that thing about suspension of disbelief where the impossible is more believe than the improbable?
Why can't you just admit that Toyo fucked up? It's not a big deal. By coming up with excuses you make Toyo fans look worse and perpetuate the shitposting for and against Toyo.
i think the thing about it is that when you introduce a new kind of "impossible" mechanic in a piece of fiction it's expected to behave in a logically parsimonious manner, i.e. no more new rules than necessary, and to flatter the reader's intuition when it comes to everyday experiences (in this case translations in space). whether something is possible isn't really the issue so much as whether something is elegantly impossible or jarringly impossible.
Think about it this way; If you were to rip your arm out of your body you could easily make the thumb look towards you, same way a portal doesn't really need to me direct hole that go one way and the other, since .
I mean, it could easily be that Toyo meant to do it the other way, but it's not at all possible, ridiculous, necessary, for that to be a right arm when it's not currently working within the limitation needed to prove it a right arm by the evidence of the thumb alone. Same way you could get a thumb looking up through a portal and get a thumb down , because It really doesn't need to be looking the same way as there is no limit to the way it could move. I don't see why It should be a problem, or something worth noting. That's all.
That I can agree with, simply put it needs to make sense within context. My point on the arm thing was more about how it's hardly really impossible, nor do I thought it important enough, but I might had underestimated that detail.
>need to me direct hole that go one way and the other, since .
Shit, I was halfway writing that while reading something else, It came out really weird. I need to start proof reading stuff
Daily reminder that they have the same age.
I will have you know that I am a male majoring in womens studies right now. Men are the problem, it is a hard pill to swallow. I know. But one needs to accept that what the feminist say is correct. I believe that women are superior. AS a wise man once said, "it is foolish for women to pretend they are equall to men. they are and always will be superior". I have watched many documentary's about the plight of women in this country. I am that liberal in class. I pride myself in it. I regulary browse r/shitredditsays .
I hate toriyama or his shit use of women. I have always thought dragon ball to be a sexist series with a sexist creator.
Fuck off and d go kill your sexist self who only thinks as women as objects to fap to
Who took care of them when they were babies?
What'd I miss from last thread, boys?
Here's that sketch for the guy that requested it... Didn't turn out too good lol
> It's not necessarily an inconsistent scene at all because we don't know how much time the fusion have
I was arguing against the remaining time because you were pretending that you know how many minutes are left.
What i'm saying is that, even though he tortured them at the beginning because he wasn't aware of the time limit, now that he was almost killed by them, now that he's aware of the time limit, he's still doing the same shit
>Which means nothing because we don't know how many time he have.
The point is that he's losing times, how could he know about his minutes left when he wasn't even aware of his time limits
>Are you even trying? Gohan was the only one remotely close to Cell's power so if Cell didn't tried to kill Gohan as soon he arrived Earth, he was playing, it doesn't matter if he killed other people, he was playing.
Hahahaha, he wanted to fight Gohan to kill him, then he tried to kill Vegeta because vegeta went for him directly.
Cell can sense energy, he know that he can't kill gohan easily.
Did you forget that Cell decided to launch a kamehameha when Gohan was weakened enough, with the goal to kill him?
>And he was still playing with them
His strenght isn't time limited and he wasn't almost killed by them.
He killed dende because he was afraid of zenkai, nice try
>Not an argument, he still played a lot. Why not go bulky or destroy Namek (or Namek's core) before?
But he tried but was afraid to create an explosion too strong which could have killed him.
That's why he didn't try to launch a new attack against namek's core and rather waiting for it to explode itself.
This way, the explosion might not be strong enough to kill him, goku could have then died in space
Why didn't Goku suggest Yamcha as the island caretaker? The kids need an adult watching over them
>I fused with Black because Goku and Vegeta were a threat to me
>Vegeto told me that my fusion is time limited
>Shit I must kill my enemies as fast as possible
>What should I do?
>Why not playing again with base goku and base vegeta, they seems to be tougher when they are not using SSB
>Why not letting my enemies getting healed by a guy I should have killed minutes ago
Hey guys, Broly here. I'd like you to meet my girlfriend, Marisa.
>your only argument is that villains who are (at that part of the story) invincible don't play with their enemies after having bad times with them
Piccolo Daimao didn't you fucking piece of shit.
Fucking newfags who never read DB
>finally master the form now
How and why?
>also Vegeta is worse than Goku as usual
Goku and Vegeta are supposed to be close in term of strenght in the manga.
I though toyocucks cared about consistency, weird
She really brings out the best in me.
Thank you, anon! You're such a sweetheart!
>Leddit, who are usually toyocucks hate now the actual chapter
>Nips, who made fun of the HOMAGES from the previous chapter, now hate the actual one
>Only a few toyocucks actually defend it
I'm enjoying it right now:
Their delusion is so good to see
Even an random anon made the manga much much much better by just changing somes lines
I was talking about the 3 HOMAGES from the previous chapter, the nips made fun of it.
Now they shit on the leaks itself
>West Black will never hold down both Mai and Trunks as she savages them both and forces them to hold hands and look each other in the eye as they're violated
>Goku and Vegeta are the first ones to get thrown out
>The strongest one of them is now Frieza
Have an update of that anon.
I'm curious too. I want to save it if it is.
Thanks a lot anon
Have a funny pic
>You didn't say that when they sucked toyo's cock month ago.
Just because I prefer the manga doesn't mean I suck Toyo's dick. The anime was shit for a long time, still is desu
The manga is getting shittier and shittier as the chapters come out.
Actually, I didn't hated champa's arc in the manga, the beggining of black's arc was also good.
But now, it's shit
I love Goku!
>he doesn't have to become a good guy, he just has to stop wanting to kill everything
Well, yeah. That's what I said. Like that's all you need. Just drop the murderous intent and boom you're on Team Goku, where you always win.
Who the fuck is that supposed to be? Goku?
>tfw you have to call your best friend to satisfy your wife
>ust drop the murderous intent and boom you're on Team Goku, where you always win.
Well Vegeta hasn't really been winning much after joining team Goku, in fact he's become the designated Jobber.
>How and why?
Are you trolling? It's the same retarded question that you guys asked with Vegeta's training. If he needs time until being able to do it, he will do so only when enough time has passed.
It was not enough at the beginning of arc but it's at the end, what's wrong with it?
>They're supposed to be close in strength in the manga
strenght =/= ability
Goku being a genius while Vegeta spends his time in forcing trainings isn't new. Goku masters SSB by himself, while Vegeta needs to train to come across SSB's cooldown because he's still far from master the form.
>krillin will never share his wife with you
>It's the same retarded question that you guys asked with Vegeta's training
i wasn't the one who asked that for vegeta, his switch was pretty smart, but he needed time for that.
Goku didn't trained as much as Vegeta but somehow, Full master SSB.
>strenght =/= ability
Yeah but genius=/=asspull ruining Vegeta's training
>my feet hurt
>why are cabba's side chicks licking me?
>i wish i was at home making donuts
>i wonder what goku's up to?
>i'm such a dick head
>is frost still a wanted man?
>how long can you move within frozen time?
>"Vaya, Un Torneo del Poder, suena interesante, puedo unir?"
What would you do?
and this is why buu was so much better
what is more horrifying than a 'demon' who is older than Hell itself, looks like a fat idiot bubblegum genie, and absorbs you before beating the rest to death with candy magic
>i wasn't the one who asked that for vegeta
That's why I said "guys"
>Goku didn't trained as much as Vegeta but somehow, Full master SSB.
Repeating myself, Goku being a genius while Vegeta spends his time forcing trainings isn't new.
Learn what that word means before use it
>Goku being a genius while Vegeta
So i guess Goku don't need to train since he's a genius.
>Learn what that word means before use it
>Full mastering SSB out of nowhere, just because he used it enough CONVENIENTLY at the moment where he needed it the most
You have to be trolling to say the manga is shit. It's literally impossible to actually think it's shit otherwise, since it's so superior to the writing of the anime.
Source? Prove it faggot toeishill. Link me to the Japanese hating the manga
No they weren't you lying faggot. I can name 3 users who constantly get upvoted for shitting on the manga
You're so full of shit, not even these assholes here are falling for your horseshit.
>Being this new
You need to go back
>No they weren't you lying faggot
You're the one lying here
>I can name 3 users who constantly get upvoted
I can do more with those who sucked toyo's cock
>Right in front of him
>uses a portal to punch him
How did we go from this...
dude they're way way too eager to trip over themselves to scream GOHAN JOB FAG GOHAN JOB SHILL KEK SHILL VEGETA they don't even look or think at what they're doing
like watching dogs run into a fence
>So i guess Goku don't need to train since he's a genius.
So I guess you have no argument. Goku is superior, he didn't trained his kame, he mastered KK when its fucking creator wasn't able to even use the technique, he became SS3 while Vegeta was only SS2, he even absorbed SSG power in the old canon because protagonist magic. Sorry if you don't like it.
>conveniently = asspull
>"th-th-that doesn't count even though it's clear evidence
Holy kek, what a bitch
girls are also more fun to
Oh wow, the threads dedicated to the manga have manga fans, WHAT A FUCKING SHOCK!
The anime threads have way more comments and posters, and way more upvotes, I guess that means they like the anime more right? You're an idiot holy shit
Post pro manga comments outside of the chapter threads, and you immediately get people telling you it sucks.
I kinda wanna draw something lewd, any suggestion?
Really? I suck horrible at drawing men. Granted I'm girl so maybe I just get that anatomy better. Guys are so angular
>linking to reddit
Just kill these threads already
Feels bad, man.
At least we have some classy suits.
>I kinda wanna draw something lewd, any suggestion?
Anything with Caulifla, please. She's pretty easy to draw
>The manga is better in that it explains a lot of things the anime just implies (though sometimes a bit too much), it uses more transformations, and some of the fights are very fun and creative. But the writing is BORING. It might be because the anime was already out, but how Black was handled ("I wonder who this Black fella is" "Hey, I just heard Zamasu asked about Goku and if it was possible to switch bodies with the Dragon Balls!") was atrocious, made even worse by how Black was turned into a generic bully (cocky when in control, throws sissy fits when someone is better)
Did you even read these threads?
So Cell totally had Saiyan cells and a Super Saiyan aura. And Frieza/King Cold cells. Could he conceivabley go SSB or Golden? Could he be made relevant again?
You hate it when toei does it but like it when Toyo does it.
I though consistency was important to you
>Oh wow, the threads dedicated to the manga have manga fans, WHAT A FUCKING SHOCK!
I was talking about them, they are the one discussing of each chapter, WHAT A SURPRISE
>The anime threads have way more comments and posters, and way more upvotes, I guess that means they like the anime more right?
My point is that those who usually, like the manga hate the actual chapter
If I said that 4chan hate something, does it mean that every poster hate it?
Quote it then.
I hope you weren't talking about the one making fun of niggastream
>master a form with months of advantage CONVENIENTLY as the moment where he needed it the most
You should read the other comments
At least reserve your judgement until we get a few more minutes of her screentime.
>You hate it when toei does it but like it when Toyo does it.
That protagonist magic (which was an actual asspull. Master a SS form isn't a new thing) was Toriyama's and I didn't bitch about it you autist
>conveniently = asspull
Anon... you know you can't push this bullshit. Just stop shitposting.
>people are unironically linking and quoting reddit posts
maybe it's time for this old fogey to move on
>Goku on pair with Merged Zamasu
Yep pure garbage I swear
We know Goku is stronger than merged Zamasu!
>Goku actually pushing Merged Zamasu without surprise effect
>Only 2 more upvote
Wow, are you even trying?
>That protagonist magic (which was an actual asspull. Master a SS form isn't a new thing) was Toriyama's and I didn't bitch about it you autist
So not only, it's ok to do the same shit as before (goku saving magically the day) but explanation aren't needed for it?
What was the point of Vegeta's training if Goku only needed a few minutes to master SSB?
>Humans fusion is less than an hour, it used to be longer in the days of Buu
Gowasu you old fuck
Goku actually fighting on par with Zamasu
That senile old fuck needs to die, he doesn't know what he's doing with his job.
they're actually using terms like upvote unironically
this shit used to be a bannable offence, but I guess they need these containment threads.
DAMAGED BASED VEGETA HURT MERGED ZAMASU
Merged zamasu is a joke in the manga.
In the anime, you know that if trunks didn't stopped Zamasu's attack, Base Goku and Base Vegeta would have died.
Here, I can't even describe it.
What were /a/'s initial reactions to this trailer?
Okay, so Goku is stronger than Beerus now, right? He's matching a fusion between a Rose Super Saiyan God and a Kaioshin.
>Did I say tree? I meant to say your power was like a grain of sand compared to the gigantic mountain that is Lord Beerus' power.
>And he's able to do it while being in base form and damaged because?
why are you asking me? i don't fucking know. all i know is you said vegeta damaged zamasu, and that didn't happen
to be fair though, we know that characters can do crazy shit if they use all their energy for an explosion, like majin vegeta did against boo, but obviously this is a bit different because vegeta didn't die
>he keeps putting words in my mouth
>he keeps ignoring previous explanations about it
>he keeps pretending is Goku who will defeat Zamasu
You don't even deserve replies
>hur hur what's the point
What was the point of Vegeta's training if Goku mastered SS at Cell arc?
No, in fact, that was actually pointless because at least Vegeta's training in DBS made him equal to Goku when we are talking about the stamina drain. Vegeta don't lose stamina because he switchs between SSG and SSB, Goku don't lose stamina because he seal his power in his body, now they are paired (pure strength aside).
>Goku only needed a few minutes to master SSB
>A FEW MINUTES when he has been using the form for 4 years
You are objectively retarded or shitposter.
He humilliated him for half an hour at the absolute tops. Unless we're to believe the standing around and talking is in real time, but then we'd have to believe Gotenk's five minutes were in Namek Time too.
No, he's still an ant to Beerus. Only SSB Vegetto is Beerus tier. You need to be able to toy with Merged Zamasu to be Beerus level. Goku is struggling
Here's Vegeta saying he's determined to live and choosing that over pride
>this retardation again
Merged Zamasu NEVER was Vegetto/Beerus tier you dumbfucks. Merged Zamasu is a fusion between a SSGSS tier guy and a SS3 tier brat, is slightly stronger than the SSGSS tier one but it's not a big difference, it can't be a big difference unlike it happens when two SSGSS tier fighters fuse into fucking Vegetto.
Merged Zamasu is significantly stronger than SSR Black and "perfect SSB" Goku is significantly stronger than the old SSB Goku so he can stand out
>Even though I've fused because they almost killed me
>EVen though they almost killed me with Vegeto
>Even though my strenght will not last forever
>I'm still playing like I did a chapter ago
>why are you asking me? i don't fucking know. all i know is you said vegeta damaged zamasu
Wasn't me, I was just aking you why he's able to do that in the first place?
>majin vegeta did against boo
If goku SS2=Vegeta majin
If goku SS3=4xSS2
Then the Gap between Buu's power and Vegeta's power wasn't as big as the Gap between Vegeta's and Merged Zamasu
Why laugh? The current anime arc is god damn terrible, it's been terrible filler for way too long. And now that Buu is out of the picture the only reason to watch this is to see the Broly girl.
>Then the Gap between Buu's power and Vegeta's power wasn't as big as the Gap between Vegeta's and Merged Zamasu
oh believe me, i know this is different. i'm just saying maybe toyo/tori intended this to be similar to majin vegeta vs boo. chiautzu was able to do the same thing too
this is just guesswork though
>if Goku mastered SS
He did it without training I guess?
>>A FEW MINUTES when he has been using the form for 4 years
You are objectively retarded or shitposter.
>Using SSB since 4 years
>Suddenly mastered it now, at the moment where he needed it the most
> so scared of showing blood they don't even give roshi a bleeding nose when he's perving out
They're so weird about it too since they're fine with showing people get killed as long as no blood is shown
Yeah the fight looks great and the lore is great too. I like seeing Goku struggle to control SSB, and again Toyotaro without "homages" makes a great looking fight
MZ is dumb for not immediately killing off Goku and Vegeta though
>He humilliated him for half an hour at the absolute tops
Still much longer than in DBS.
Gowasu seems to implies that it's the humans fault if the fusion is short, not because of their power.
Which is retarded since it should applies to SSJ vegeto in Buu's arc
The whole retcon is retarded. There was literally nothing wrong with Buu's magic mojo interfering with the potara's power. Now we have to believe the time JUST HAPPENED to run out exactly when Vegeto lowered his barrier inside buu.
Super's target audience in Chinese kids. Explicit violence isn't allowed on Chinese television period.
The anime is canon though, the manga is an adaptation, just like the games.
Not that being canon is any kind of quality assurance when discussing toriyama's dragon ball post Z.
>He did it without training I guess?
4 years of training you mean.
>his argument is STILL conveniently = asspull
I guess you believe every fictional story is literally built with asspulls
>4 years of training you mean.
Yet, SSB drained a lot of his stamina chapters ago, but now, FULL MASTERED.
>I guess you believe every fictional story is literally built with asspulls
I guess SSJikara make sense then.
He's an hybrid saiyan, never stopped fighting...etc
Goku was one shotted by merged zamasu a chapter ago, but now, not only he full mastered SSB only at this moment and not before, giving him a HUGE powerboost, to the point of fighting on par with merged zamasu
But the anime is the one MOST people will associate the canon with, mangacuck.
Normies ain't got time for reading Nip comic books.
I agree with your second sentence.
>But the anime is the one MOST people will associate the canon with, mangacuck.
most people are wrong
Oh shit, Trunks subconsciously healed Mai and Gowasu when he touched them back then. Good shit Toyo.
>Toriyama is not directly involved with the anime production
How is this a bad thing, again? We're not dealing with 80s/90s Toriyama here. He's a senile old man now.
Trunks actually healed Mai and that's how she survived Black's attack long enough for him to return with the senzu
Trunks also healed Gowasu and that's how he survived Black's stabbing. He was unconsciously healing both of them by a tiny bit since he couldn't control it. Good writing toyo
Why do you guys keep arguing this shit? The anime comes first so it's the 'primary' canon, while the manga comes much later thus it's the rep as being secondary.
Not that it matters much anyways.
Sorry it took so long but I had a lot of fun doing Kus!! Any other ahegao faces?
For what fucking purpose?
It adds nothing to the story and only manages to loo retarded because it's attempting to fix what wasn't even broken.
It's like Toyble is trying to make the manga retroactively shitty as well.
How did he do it? The manga was going well, got a bit bumpy during the black arc and Black was much better in the anime, but then previous chapter it instantly turned to shit, and this chapter is just as garbage.
>he didn't mastered the form until the form was mastered!
Wow you are right Toyble is a hack
>-You should believe every story is built with asspulls if you think something is an asspull because it's conveniently
>+Then this actual asspull is fine!
I don't even know how your brain works and I don't even want to know it.
Kys I'm sick of this shit.
It was hinted you fucking retard. They both moved after Trunks touched them. It was revealed they survived after Trunks touched them
People thought it was lazy, now that we have the explanation, you're shitting on it because "muh anime and manga wars"
fuck off with the shitposting
So why do people think Vegeta was stronger than Goku at this point in the manga just because he mastered quick-switching between red and blue forms when it's implied that Goku already knows how to do it?
It doesn't matter, making it so he is mastering last fucking minute just reeks of shitty writing.
Add to the fact the aspull is meant to be for Goku when other characters who are in serious need of a powerup to be relevant are left in the dust.
The Anime is better because it at least gave trunks some spotlight on his arc instead of sucking off Goku's dick 4/5ths of it.
Toyotaro is well know for that
>Wow you are right Toyble is a hack
Yes, because he mastered it NOW, when a chapter ago, SSB was still draining a lot of stamina to him, but now it ismastered AT THIS MOMENT.
>I don't even know how your brain works and I don't even want to know it.
>Kys I'm sick of this shit.
Yeah, i'm sick of your bullshit.
It's ok for a main protagonist to have "convenient asspull" for you (struggled just minutes ago but now full mastered SSB at the right moment, just like that, giving him a HUGE POWER BOOST making him able to fight against a fused fighter)
Only you defend this shit, the majority shit on it
>It doesn't matter if it's hinted.
....ok we're done here
>No it wasn't, they were still laying down until SENZU
But you're wrong. Gowasu showed movement before the senzu. Mai did as well
I hope you're shitposting and that's all
That's a hint that they barely survived, not a hint that trunks had magical healing powers out of fucking nowhere. You need to hint a lot fucking more if a ridiculous asspull of that size is what you're going with.
Please nigger, get out of this board.
Trunks having magic healing powers adds nothing to the story, it doesn't amend any holes in toyble's writing and the development is just all around contrived.
>hurr they moved
Even dead bodies twitch and move on their own, not an argument.
It's far easier to believe Black just sucks at killing people and left them on the brink of death instead, which would be consistent with the failure that F. Zamasu is right now.
Trunks' healing magic is irrelevant.
>Only Gowasu, not Mai you fucking liar
Moron. Mai moves her head to the other side as the cat licks her.
You're an idiot
Toeishills really are morons
Why is goku suddenly able to fight on par with Merged Zamasu?
Let's admit that mastering (suddenly) SSB give you a huge power boost, how is it able to close the gap between SSB and a guy who ONESHOTTED both SSB?
That is not an hint, Gowasu's movement was an hint but not Mai.
It just mean that she's still alive, you cannont interpret it otherwise.
Zamasu is supposed to be competent in the manga.
He was about to end SSJ Goku, killed all the ningens.
Now, he play with them, even though he was almost killed by Vegeto, even though his strenght is limited in time
>It just mean that she's still alive, you cannont interpret it otherwise.
Except the fucking chapter today just told us she survived because of Trunks. It's a hint
It shows you Mai survived, you assume Black just failed to kill her then find out it's because Trunks healed her without realizing. But since he's unaware of what he's doing he only heals them a bit, since we see from Kibito you need your hands to stay on them to heal to full
this place is such shit. Even after being proven wrong, people are grasping at straws to bitch about the chapter because they feel like they must win
I hope you're not grown adults doing this. Fucking cancer.
>all of these z stills are from fast paced fights with losts of shit going on
>super stills are from slow as molasses fights that have much less detail than z
>Except the fucking chapter today just told us she survived because of Trunks. It's a hint
A hint is supposed to make you think of something
>Oh, mai seems to be alive
Not a good hint
>What??? Gowasu was basically dead, his eyes were blank, how is he able to move just after trunks touched him?
That is a good hint
Black fooling around and getting surprised is totally in-character in the anime because that's the way he is, cocky and overconfident to the point he willingly drags out fights just to get more enjoyment out of them.
Black in the manga is supposed to be far more focused and pragmatic, but this only comes to play when it's convenient.
Toyo's character writing is just trash.
Manga future Trunks and future Mai will stay in the past when this arc is over, instead of taken out back and quietly erased like the anime ones were. This is how they will keep the manga relevant even as the next big arc is finishing when this one is still dragging on.
Toeicucks have to deal with shit quality animation on a weekly basis
I pity them
I don't care about quality but Dog Beerus is fucking hilarious.
>Even after being proven wrong
The majority is shitting on the chapter.
SSR Black < SSB Vegeta < SSB Goku < FPSSB Goku =/= M-Zamasu <<<<<<< SSB Vegetto
>Being this retarded
>Vegeta was one shotted, Goku wasn't and he was weakened by cooldown
A month ago, you guys said that Zamsu one shotted Vegeta SSB in purpose, now you're saying that goku was just strong enough to resist it?
Did you even read the manga?
>Black in the manga is supposed to be far more focused and pragmatic
No he isn't. What a pathetic post
>Black fooling around and getting surprised is totally in-character in the anime because that's the way he is, cocky and overconfident to the point he willingly drags out fights just to get more enjoyment out of them.
What kind of garbage is this?
>Goku's newfound ability to control SSB just makes it behave exactly like SSB in the anime, allowing him to remain in the form for extended periods of time, like he always could in the anime, but apparently couldn't in the manga.
Wasn't... wasn't that the point of SSB? It was the ability to manifest the power of a Super Saiyan God on your own and without a time limit. That's why it exists.
Like, until last chapter, I used to shill all up and down for Toyotaro, because at least his Goku wasn't a fucking retard, but I don't understand his inability to use SSG and SSB properly - SSG has a ritual and a time limit, SSB is the body manifesting that God Ki on its own.
>mangachads say the anime looks like shit
>toeishills, in a desperate attempt to defend their shit anime, show bad screenshots from the z anime/movies and not the manga
>Vegetto isn't there anymore, just a few powerless ningens, and we don't know how much time Zamasu have
Goku and Vegeta were powerless a chapter ago, they were still able to fuse and were about to end him
As trunksfag, the anime was miles ahead. Trunks getting a form to be on the same lines as Vegeta and Goku, father son galic gun and spirit sword werel far better than beige a shittier namek dende.
hakai this thread
I'm holding out for the next chapter, but my hopes aren't too high for it.
But this eerily resembles last chapters shitstorm
>Black being incompetent as fuck is totally in-character in the anime
>Black in the manga is what I say he is, so since I can't be wrong Black's characterization became wrong!
>Toyo's character writing is just trash
I don't even need say shit here, you already made a joke.
Because seeing Toeishills get mad brings me joy
>Then why complaining now?
found the spic
>still no evidence of tracing
>tfw Buu's fight looked like ass and now he's cut out of the tournament
Why are you even trying?
You're the same retard who praised manga black for being "competent" then backpedal when he was shown to be just as retarded as every other DB villian.
But anon, being triggered by powerlevels, sucking goku's dick is the spicest thing
But anon, do you remember the end of Boo arc in the original manga? Well... the same exact scene in the DBS manga looks exactly the same! It must be tracing, it's the only reasonably explanation! That's proof!
>finally a villain who forces the limits of SSGSS Goku's power
>it's also the first time to shine of Goku (the fucking protagonist) in this arc
>people bitchs about it because they thought the villain was stronger because Toei said so
To be fair Zamasu isn't that strong. He's described as being weaker than Trunks, and in the manga they sent Kibito to battle him. Kibito isn't that strong as well, so him getting beat isn't that impressive. The Potara fusion as a result would also be weaker.
I honestly think Black alone is going to be the bigger threat
Vados English dub
>Blacks the final opponent
With the powerup he'll probably be extremely smug. I would like for this to happen
>>it's also the first time to shine of Goku (the fucking protagonist) in this arc
Except Goku got the spotlight in every arc before this one so having him be the one that fights Zamasu in the end is just more of the same old shit.
One of the reasons people hated GT was because of how it was the Goku show, which is exactly the same shit the manga is doing with the black arc.
I honestly believe GT treated the side characters a little better than Super has.
I mean yeah, they made 17 merge with a hell-version of himself, but at least they didn't turn him into a suicidal cuck.
This is just my headcannon, but you know how Vegeto is stronger then Beerus at full power? I think that by being as strong as a GoD, you can have similar powers to them. GoD's are appointed but were they ever stated to have been granted this power? When you reach GoD I'm going to assume that your ki gains additional abilities including the property of destruction. If literally every trace of Zamasu is destroyed (even his soul, which GoD's have the capability to destroy) then the immortality cannot work as there is nothing to restore. Immortality was never really that welldefined and the only person who has gotten it is Zamasu, he's setting the rules for how immortality works
Alright you fucking autists. Name things you like about each medium instead of screeching back and forth over an imaginary war that looks the exact same in every fucking thread.
Anime: Occasional spurts of really animation/choreography, incredible voice talent, gives all the characters a chance to shine and be relevant.
Manga: General power level consistency (for the most part), great SoL, incredibly expressive Beerus, no flanderization of Goku.
>but the funny thing is ever after all these years some parts of kai are just as awful.
Most of Kai dub is trash, and they reused the old Kikuchi score which made it even more insufferable.
Sub is the objectively best choice.
>Listen if Goku and Vegeta working together can push Beerus to his limits
But they can't. It was retconned and I can't fucking believe this still has to be explained to people.
It only seems that way if you read mangastreams translation. In the Viz translation Shin, of all people, speculates that MAYBE Vegito's power could be higher than Beerus'. Maybe, and coming from Shin, it's doubtful.
>he accepts Goku didn't get time to shine in this arc
>"GT was Goku show, which is exactly the same shit the manga is doing with the black arc"
>Goku didn't fight black
>Said that Vegeta trained well in order to beat black
>The Manga stated numerous times that their power are close
>Goku was stronger than black, even with zenkai
>Still Job to zamasu
Can we honestly drop this Shin hate?
Obviously that little tidbit was placed there to show the extent of Vegito's power. Besides that Shin massively underestimated the saiyans power, that must mean he's far beyond Beerus
Stop reading mangastream you retard.
>Besides that Shin massively underestimated the saiyans power, that must mean he's far beyond Beerus
I can't believe people actually think this.