Hi everyone, the second chapter of the manga adaption of Star Wars: Lost Stars came out today. I've just finished the translation and will be posting it, just like last time.
If you're interested, here's last weeks:
And if you're impatient, here's this weeks:
Because someone suggested it, it's also on batoto if that's more to your liking, as will be the second chapter once it passes their whatever system
Here's the promotional blurb instead of me making something up:
>The reign of the Galactic Empire has reached the Outer Rim planet of Jelucan, where aristocratic Thane Kyrell and rural villager Ciena Ree bond over their love of flying. Enrolling at the Imperial Academy together to become fighter pilots for the glorious Empire is nothing less than a dream come true for the both of them. But Thane sours on the dream when he sees firsthand the horrific tactics the Empire uses to maintain its ironclad rule.
>Bitter and disillusioned, Thane joins the fledgling Rebellion—putting Ciena in an unbearable position to choose between her loyalty to the Empire and her love for the man she's known since childhood.
>Now on opposite sides of the war, will these friends turned foes find a way to be together, or will duty tear them—and the galaxy—apart?
I'd stitch these 2-page spread things together if I weren't so lazy
And that's it for this chapter, unless you really want to see the black end page, the two promotional pages, and my toot-my-own-horn page.
Join me in two wednesdays for the next chapter of Lost Stars, in which I'm sure we'll get to see even more of Ciena Ree, the cutest star wars girl.
So she supposed to look like this?
>you like boys, don't you, anonymous?
>never got an animated OVA of NJO because EU had both good and dumb shit
>instead get this weird crap from Nu-Star Wars thanks to Disney
Fuck you Mickey Mouse. At least give us a Thrawn anime series where Sunrise animates it and TZ writes it.
Lucas Arts already got us anime waifus of EU like EU Jaina Solo figurines.
That would've been interesting to say the least. I can't even IMAGINE the amount of shitposting and butthurt Anakin Solofags would have
if they ever got to Legacy and seeing Jacen cuck his dead brother of his tomboy lover.
What is it about?
Well, it's what this Manga is adapted from. It's a Young Adult novel, and I that doesn't give you the wrong impression because Lost Stars is quite a good read. What it's about is in the quoted promotional blurb in the OP
>With all the money they have I'm surprised they never made at least a couple of ovas to promote the movies there.
Star Wars is already extremely popular in Japan.
Empire gets a bad rap for doing the job the Republic had utterly failed at.
Bring order and security. End slavery. Depose crime lords.
And yet somehow, they're the bad guys.
Has he been depicted with ear cones? As far as I know only twi'lek women have those, though they sometimes have regular ears (for some fucking reason). Males always have ears.
The book wasn't bad. Definitely my favorite new edition to the EU so far but I haven't looked really
Plus in a surprisingly turn, especially for Disney, they
totally bang. No implications just straight out
The biggest issue here is that it'll still churn out garbage but now it'll all be Disney approved garbage
Star Wars has always been a giant whore of a franchise, but now there'll be even less risks and it'll be even more formulaic
>I get to dictate which "manga" and "anime" that gets posted to this "anime and manga" board on this internet imageboard
It's a manga and it belongs here, get over it.
Only bad stuff novel wise were by people like KJA or most of the writers who had little experience in science-fiction/fantasy stories which is mainly when Star Wars books were produced by Bantam Publishing. Once they switched over to Del Rey, both pre, during, and post OT and PT stories were good. Due to writers like Stover, Luceno, Salvatore, Zahn, Alliston, etc...
And I liked NJO. That was the moving point where the post-RoTJ stuff gets cemented into being bleaker, darker, and more serious without going full retard grimdark. I get the Vong were tough for some people to like but it was a nice divergent from rogue imperial warlord/ancient Sith Lord/super weapon of destruction/fallen Jedi storylines that got repeated over and over.
Plus if they ever did NJO, it would hit all the right buttons with the Japanese and guarantee sequel seasons with stuff like LotF and FotJ.
get fucked nerd
we also have Avengers anime threads
Now pic is westaboo star wars garbage
Got dammit, even Star Wars can't be safe from this.
And you all are faggots for wasting opportunity to post Ackbar.
At least I still have Hera.
>both of these trips
Also don't forget Travsis.
>tfw no Twi'lek or Torguta daughteru
>Most of the adult novels
Very bad. The Vos/Ventress novel is literally intended toward a female demographic with a retarded OTP between Vos and Ventress, Lords of the Sith was decent, Tarkin was okay, rest of it is pretty bad.
So I'd say no.
I take it you haven't even touched or read the steaming pile of literal dogshit that is the Aftermath Trilogy by Chuck Wendig?
>tfw no X-Wing and strong no homo vaguely homerotic friendships with your squad and wingmen
it's just now fair
>He's a boy in Lost Stars and an old man in Bloodlines.
Was there much detailing on how gracefully he did or did not age?
>Only bad stuff novel wise were by people like KJA or most of the writers who had little experience in science-fiction/fantasy stories which is mainly when Star Wars books were produced by Bantam Publishing. Once they switched over to Del Rey, both pre, during, and post OT and PT stories were good. Due to writers like Stover, Luceno, Salvatore, Zahn, Alliston, etc...
I disagree, I liked Bantam era a lot more than the Del Rey era, mostly because I hated NJO/LotF/FotJ, I have no interest in Denning's stupid snuff montage.
I've read the best parts of NJO in Traitor and Enemy Lines, I don't really care to read anything else from it, and this is from a guy who tolerated Crystal Star and Planet of Twilight, the two worst books in the Bantam era by far.
Hell, I even found GOOD parts in those two.
Crystal Star had cute Solo babies parts (Even if the kidnapping was bullshit writer fiat.) and uh, I guess the magician girl from it eventually became a fully fleshed out character in A C Crispin's Han Solo trilogy.
Planet of twilight had a swole Hutt and Uh I guess Daala being not-an-idiot and tooling around in a patrol vessel doing commando stuff.
Travis had one really good book (Hard contact), two decent ones, Tripple Zero, True Colors, one that started out okay and went to shit fast, (Order 66), and the rest were shit. Actually I didn't read her stuff with Ahsoka and such before TCW Season 2 pissed her off and made her ragequit, but her post-endor set books were awful, though that was as much Denning's fault as hers.
Its because the contrarians on /co/ don't realize that TCW was cancelled due it running on CN which is owned by Disney's biggest cable rival despite its success and appeal and that it getting better was hugely influenced by Lucas' personal involvement and money. Which also explains why Rebels still looks like dogshit even into season 3.
Bantam Era Star Wars is awful. Zahn, Stackpole, and Alliston can't make up for crap like Children of the Jedi, Planet of Twilight, Jedi Academy Trilogy, and so on. Bantam era was the worst part of Star Wars EU.
>tolerated Crystal Star
Sorry anon, I can't take you seriously now.
Vong is way to do divergent from usall stuff in worst possible way, same with way to do that type of race.
Just because it's diffrent that cliched plots its not excuse to be shit.
Also it was close getting full retard grimdark.
And idea of this becoming darker, bleaker and edger is mistake to begin with. Especially right after (few decades) end of original story.
This reason why I enjoy retcon making stuff between original trylogy and new trilogy more peaceful (even at expense of Jedi order).
Star Wars should be about hope and adventure, there are other setting for grimdark stuff. If you want darker SW you can always focus on Rise of Empire era. Or at least move timeline few centuries or more in future.
Like how the Clone Wars covered many theatres of war?
A shame we went from 'personally funded by George Lucas with millions per episode' to whatever it is Rebels has got.
I think he's more of a small cameo than anything else.
>Very bad. The Vos/Ventress novel is literally intended toward a female demographic with a retarded OTP between Vos and Ventress,
It actually started out pretty decent, but the endign was just "We need to get the Ostrander fans back and get rid of Ventress, so throw away the TCW characterization we took from the Big Lebowski and bring back the edgelord."
I really wanted to see what Christie Golden can write when she ISN'T stuck finishing or setting up someone else's idea, I was hoping Inferno Squadron would be all her, but it's a fucking EAfront2 prequel.
>It was close to going full retard grimdark.
It never did.
>And the idea of this becoming darker
Was due to the fans. This was reception both Lucas Arts Books and Del Rey recieved from adult fans wanting the series to get more serious and more continual instead of random one-shot novels set all over the post-RoTJ timeline that Bantam did.
Worst part is we will never know where in EU the writers were going to take Vestara and Ben Skywalker's relationship.
Well, he recently announced at celebration that he has no future plans for writing Star Wars books, so take that what you will. And it looks like Timothy Zahn will be writing more books in the future
Only the first two books by Travisisty were decent, the third was goofy and the last two were absolutely fucking awful. Her autism over people debunking her low end bullshit about the Clone Army's size and number of troops involved in the war and her rants and bitch-fests are part of the reason why she was axed from Lucas Arts.
Traviss said the same thing when she "left" Lucas Arts. Interesting.
It wasn't just that she killed off Mara Jade. She had her killed by Caedus in the dumbest way possible that both makes the main antagonist of LotF look like a pussy and hijacked all three novels of the series she wrote into heading back into a repeat of her Clone Commando novels and Fett stories.
>Bantam Era Star Wars is awful. Zahn, Stackpole, and Alliston can't make up for crap like Children of the Jedi, Planet of Twilight, Jedi Academy Trilogy, and so on. Bantam era was the worst part of Star Wars EU.
>>tolerated Crystal Star
>Sorry anon, I can't take you seriously now.
"TOlerated" as in "Went in in the hopes of salvaging *SOMETHING* decent.
Bantam's stinkers are Parts of Children of the Jedi (Mostly the shit involving Callista and the Gammoreans, the rest, ESPECIALLY the descriptions of Belsavis itself were pretty okay.) Most of Crystal star, the Luke C-Plot in the Black Fleet Crisis, the Corellia Trilogy is bad but not completely awful and was partly redeemed by the bit about Thraken in the Han Solo Trilogy. The Jedi Academy trilogy was pretty fucking bad, but I, Jedi made it slightly better and really, I think when working with his wife on Young Jedi Knights JKA completely redeemed himself. Darksaber was a bit of a weird one, if you take out the pointless death and make the A-plot a pure comedy it could have really worked, oh and remove Callista from the B/C plot because she is awful.
The High points of Bantam. Thrawn trilogy, Hand of Thrawn duology, Rogue Squadron, WRAITH Squadron, Han Solo Trilogy (Not the Han solo Adventures or Lando Adventures though, those actually came before Bantam.)Truce at Bakura, the good parts of Darksaber
Since the Aftermath trilogy ended there was no point to keep him around, he's still doing a short story for a collection to be released this year, but if nothing else happens it will be his last work with Star Wars
This woman has literally turned everything she writes for any franchise she's hired into total crap.
>Gears of War
I have issues with some of the Rogue Squadron novels because Stackpole's pet OC character, Corran Horn, will never not feel like a terrible self-insert to me and the fact he wanks fighter-jockeys so hard that they literally show he doesn't understand how naval warfare works while he pushes a very hard pro-multicultural/bad white people agenda in several of his stories.
>Traviss said the same thing when she "left" Lucas Arts. Interesting.
Not really, she left on FAR worse terms, Pablo and stuff are still somehow friends with Wendig.
>It wasn't just that she killed off Mara Jade. She had her killed by Caedus in the dumbest way possible that both makes the main antagonist of LotF look like a pussy and hijacked all three novels of the series she wrote into heading back into a repeat of her Clone Commando novels and Fett stories
As pseudo-punishment that punished the fans more than it punished HER Denning did at leat make her kill of Pellaeon (Who she actually really liked.) and leave him unmourned by the empire.
But like I said that punished *US* more than it punished *HER.*
>Worst part is we will never know where in EU the writers were going to take Vestara and Ben Skywalker's relationship.
The Lost Tribe should have been Sith Purebreds, let Ben turn an evil red waifu good.
'Son of Dathomir' and 'Dark Disciple' (both originally intended as story arcs for The Clone Wars S6)
Also, the 'Obi-Wan and Anakin' comic. A couple of the novels also start off in the Prequel era before transitioning into the OT era.
That fat mexican has to be fired.
They were genocided by the human Sith, the first Grand Lord's wife made them sterile.
Is Vader a Saberfag?
>I have issues with some of the Rogue Squadron novels because Stackpole's pet OC character, Corran Horn, will never not feel like a terrible self-insert to me and the fact he wanks fighter-jockeys so hard that they literally show he doesn't understand how naval warfare works while he pushes a very hard pro-multicultural/bad white people agenda in several of his stories.
His naval parts are base a lot on what was physically possible in the X-Wing PC game, and on the devastating power of torpedoes in WW2.
Also did you *NOT* catch the whole "Borsk Fey'lya as a Hassidic anti-goy-sex Rabbi" vibe he had going with Gavin and whatsherface's romance?
>They were genocided by the human Sith, the first Grand Lord's wife made them sterile.
I know, that's the point I quit reading Lost Tribe.
And I fucking LOVE JJ Miller's writing and consider him the "New Allston" so maybe I was being a big baby to stop reading over the death of what I had hoped would be survivors of a cool species/culture but that's what I did.
The only reason it seems like KT left on "far worse terms" is because the public backlash and the entire affair was recorded and screenshotted from her rants on her blog and her arguments with fans on the Force.net or in actual person on camera. Wendig literally lost his shit over people critiquing his first novel because it was honestly written like garbage with flip-flopping tenses (present vs past), grammatical errors and spelling problems, typos, and odd shit like using XIR in canon.
Also can't forget that passage of "The fighter hobbily jerked and wobbled" shit. The guy had a meltdown over this claiming his novels had never been so negatively reviewed before. Well protip Wendig you dumb fuck, your writing for Star Wars now.
Not him but he's talking about how Stackpole literally thinks three X-Wings can kill even Super Star Destroyers in all his books.
Only human Sith are good Sith. And maybe Keshiri, purple Sith good too.
>Not him but he's talking about how Stackpole literally thinks three X-Wings can kill even Super Star Destroyers in all his books.
You mean an entire fleet of transports kitted with 300 extra torpedo tubes, two ISD2s, and the rogues working together? (And mind you this was back when people thought SSDs were only 8 kilometers long.
Most of Catalyst takes place during the Clone Wars and it shows how the Republic were already in the planning stage of the Death Star. They were even building bits of the Death Star before the war was even over
Also what>>157332653 though he missed out the Kanan comic which takes place during the Clone Wars and just after Order 66
Oh and I forgot the Gand Bombers and the Twilek Deathseeds.
I don't remember that ever happening.
I mean yeah if it stays at the very edge of the SSD's range or in the hilariously undergunned rear arc a VSD can survive for a little while, but I don't recall them ever struggling.
And tapping into the YA/kids books for Bantam good and bad
Campy hilarious so-bad-it's-amazing; Jedi Prince
Actually really good: Young Jedi Knights, Galaxy of FEAR
Not quite my style: Junior Jedi Knights.
That doesn't work, because you have things like the Han Solo and Lando trilogies, that were written long before the prequels happened.
To me, prequel era ends once the Empire is fully established as the controlling force in the galaxy.
Prequel Era literally stops after RoTS ends. But I think we can all agree Ian/Palaptine was glorious in the PT.
Too old. Also used goods. Luke is also a whore in EU, he's been with like half a dozen different women before he was 20.
Only if you like tomboys. And Tahiri is probably there for people who are into super genki childhood friends who also happen to have foot fetishes.
She's literally Mara 2.0. Also slutted it up with not only Zekk but also Kyp and Jag Fel.
>Tenienel's daughter whose name I can't remember
She's okay when she isnt' being a masturbation device for feminists. The Chiss chick who wants to desperately get the D from Jag was great though.
No, as >>157328922 is what happens. It might be due to them cutting out a character who fills the role of being out for revenge in the book so instead they stuck that part into her character.
>Depose crime lords.
The Hutts and the rest of the criminal underworld are still a thing during Palpatine's reign. Vader even hired Boba to do what the imperials were to useless to do, capture Solo.
Hutts have their own region in the galaxy they control. But they answer to the Empire and do what the Empire tells them to do to keep their autonomy. The crime families of the Hutt dynasties control hundreds of star systems.
Slavery was worse than ever. They were forcing Wookies to work in the spice mines of Kessel.
Anime when? TFU is the one series which would fit a anime series well given how exaggerated the force is in it.
I'd love a movie adaption of the game, but an anime would work really well for it. Action, romance, loner protagonist, comedy bot, flashy fights, wise old man mentor.
>Anime when? TFU is the one series which would fit a anime series well given how exaggerated the force is in it.
Not every anime revels in over the top stuff to that degree.
I mean you could make Space Area 88 with starfighters easily enough.
The films have no evidence of the racism and oppression that the Empire supposedly enforced systematically, except for that one detention block officer on the first Death Star insulting Chewie. Instead, we see multiple aliens working with or for the Empire, like the Kubaz spy in ANH or the bounty hunters in ESB.
Most of the films were PG13 at best, doubt they would depict slavery and have a potential shitstorm on their hands or possibly drive away the part of the audience that has to take their kids with them. Bounty hunters don't count, they're essentially whores with different skill sets that will do anything for the money as long as they don't feel like they're being set up.
Only RoTS, TFA, and Rogue One have hit above the PG rating. And RoTS is also the one that shows children being slaughtered, a man being dismembered and burned alive, and frequent characters on screen being decapitated.
But the Empire is hugely human-centric.
There was a lot of fading to black and then the next scene starts when he was killing those children. They alluded to it well enough but they never showed it, at best we got a pre-teen/teenager get shot to death by clones but even then that wasn't so much dark as unsettling. The rest they did show but it didn't end up feeling so dark from my point of view.
I'm not really certain I agree with that. Child killing in the film regardless of being explicitly shown or not is pretty dark. Just like seeing Anakin losing all his limbs and writhing on the ground in pain while immolated. Or Grievous' gutsack exploding and burned apart when Obi-Wan shoots him with his own blaster.
There is literally NOTHING wrong with human supremacism.
Everyone except nu-males, feminists, and hipsters hates TFA.
I hate how people bring up midicholorians. The fucking Darth Plagueis novel by Luceno which was supervised directly by Lucas has them clarify that midicholorians are ATTRACTED to people who have greater connections to the Force, not that they make it and this was done specifically because people were confused by the line in Episode 1.
Rebels is garbage. It constantly portrays the Empire as completely incompetent in every possible regard. It's impossible to take the show seriously when the Empire it depicts could be defeated by a handful of children.
So are aliens to each other. Humans have the right to be the superior race in Star Wars:
>most powerful Jedi? Always humans.
>most powerful Dark Jedi/Sith? Always humans.
>most populated planets in the galaxy by race? Humans.
>most related species to humans? Near-Humans.
>majority of early hyperspace-traveling explorers and pioneers? Humans.
Human race is master race. Hell The Essential Guide to Warfare book in Star Wars for EU even tells us the early Human dominated Republic even had a IoM phase where they went around genociding a bunch of alien species for not worshiping the same religion as they did.
Thrawn does the Empire good and the Vader parts and Grand Inquisitor also complimented the show very well. But the other Inquisitors being so criminally incompetent, the terrible animation, aping Ralph M's original art style in such a forced way with terrible CGI doesn't work as does the intent to push old school Star Wars feels very artificial from an aesthetic standpoint.
Also how they ruined Maul will never be forgiven.
I couldn't get past the beginning of Rebels S2. Between the rampant Imperial incompetence being the only reason the MCs win most of the time, Ezra being a whiny little bitch, and Sabine being such a blatant Mary Sue, I couldn't bring myself to go any further.
>Human race is master race
The Rakata say hello.
>The Rakata says hello
You mean the fags whose empire was tiny, or the fact they were so shit they got beat up by a bunch of ancient Sith who had no modern technology lead by a guy whose best feat is hitting people hard with a big axe? And their race sucking so much they got Force-cancer permanently?
Leave the real Empire to Valky.
Anon, rewatch RoTJ. The Empire overcame the surprise attack by the teddies and were slaughtering both them and the Rebels despite the planet being full of Ewoks until Han hijacked an AT-ST and captured the last of the Imperial reinforcements from the shield bunker.
The Empire at its height controlled almost all of the galaxy.
The Rakatan's barely controlled 500 planets.
The lesser Inquisitors were trained wrong, as a joke.
As far as
my headcanonis concerned they exist to round up Force-Sensitive babies and keep track of potential threats so the Empire knows where to muscle in with mundane military power. Vader is around to deal with actual anti-Imperial Force users that are skilled and organized enough to evade getting dogpiled by stormies and outmaneuver helisaber gimmickboiz.
>literally atrophies in power and sanity for no reason between escaping Sidious in SoD/post-TCW seasons 5 and 6
>to going insane in Rebels and having no plan but to wander a desert blindly for a couple hours, gets exhausted then killed off by Obi-Wan because Toy Boy Filoni can't do jackshit into long term writing
>for no reason
He's an unstable attack dog who got mauled
:^)by his first major targets and written off by the guy who held his leash. Then his old tribe picks him out of the dirt and brushes him off, even giving him an apprentice to tool around with. He manages to bash a couple crime gangs into a junta on Mandalore and kill his self-appointed nemesis Kenobi's girlfriend.
Then the moment he finally thinks he's managed to accomplish something meaningful (in his own eyes), his old master busts in for a completely one-sided 1v2 duel, butchers his apprentice, and throws him back into the dirt so he can lead him back to someone of actual cosmic significance so Sheev can kill them too.
He knows nothing but violence and coercion through its thorough application, and keeps getting beaten down by people with the additional skills necessary to make lasting accomplishments. Of course he's going to end up a broken, delusional mess seeking one last chance to get back at the people he blames for his failings.
Seeing how Rebels completely contradicts both Maul's established goals in TCW and his character as well, I'm going to safely agree with that anon in that it clearly feels like Filoni had no idea what the fuck he was doing with him in Rebels and him killed off so anti-climatically and altered his character.
Rebels is terrible for a lot of reasons. The ruining of Maul is just one the more primary ones at the top of the list.
I'm going to need a link to see for myself. I'm not going to be a Plinklett and overanalyze and bash while giving TFA a free pass. I'd give the prequels credit when it deserves.
You've already seen 4 haven't you? Imagine the worst SJW filled special edition of that. Imagine a plot that's making no sense when it's not a carbon EP4 clone. Imagine uninventiveness, ugly practical effects & enough CGI to make you wonder why they kept on preaching about the practical effects.
I could sit down and type out an entire paper on how Starkiller Base is a blazing distillation of just how fucked TFA is as a story and as a piece of media, but I'm trying to be less salty about fiction for the rest of the year.
I'll just say that JJ's style does result in good movies beyond their most superficial elements.
Being bitch slaves to Imperial interests and having Imperial garrisons on all their worlds effectively renders them inconsequential. The Republic let them run around doing whatever they wanted as long as it wasn't on a Special Snowflake planet. The Empire solved the disenfranchisement of the Outer Rim and put a halt to outright gangsterism having free reign. So fucking what if a Hutt plays up the mafia thing in their front lawn? They couldn't ever do it beyond the scope of their yard with the Empire's boot on their nuts.
Who the fuck is she supposed to be?
It was decent in some areas, it was ugly in others. People shit on the prequels for its CGI despite the sets & make-up it had. I try & judge things equally so I can't give EP7 a free pass for some things.
>Supposedly remnants of Empire
>make a Death Star BIGGER than previous two combined
>eats suns somehow
>I made some jokes about the skin cancer everyone's getting being that close or that 90% of that sun's energy being used on the cooling systems due to how hot it must be
>kept it a secret the entire time
>still has a hole to blast which a handful of X-Wings can take down & not even need the Force
>said hole apparently a janitor is fully aware of
Not to mention it's a secret from the audience until halfway through the movie, when the film suddenly cuts to it for the obligatory "WE BIG IMPORTANT VILLAINS NOW" speech. I guess the toneless scene of that previously unmentioned system of planets getting torched while the whole galaxy watches and weeps from their backyards was supposed to distract the viewer from the fact that the plots of the first and second halves of the movie are completely disconnected.
God damn, just thinking about TFA makes me a cynical grump
I couldn't take Kylo Ren nor the First Order seriously as villains. Rey can already defeat Kylo, what's there left for Luke to teach? If EP8 Rey beats Kylo, we're just treated to more girlpower shit. If EP8 Kylo trains more & beats Rey, it'd make Luke look like a shitty teacher given how much potential the EP7 untrained Rey had & Rey's training being unable to keep up with whatever Snoke does.
That's not what happened. Bioware and Obsidian put some gay side characters and flirting options into Kotor 1&2. Lucasarts told them to remove them because it wasn't something they wanted to address. Said removal was half-assed at best, and still accessible through some dialog options or by poking around the game files.
Also, some of the old EU books introduced gay characters years ago.
>spends most of the video not on TFA
>gives it a free pass on shit he didn't let the prequels have a pass
>video is closer to nostalgia pandering on the "good old prequel bashing days" than actual sustenance
Does Mike work for Disney?
He ragged on Rogue One for breaking "muh film school rules" and "visual recognition pandering", both of which TFA managed to get awa with to a far greater degree, so I think he's just irrational and/or watched R1 with a shitty audience and soured the experience with bad fee-fees.
Good lord I lost so much respect for Traviss as the Republic Commando series went on. It was actually pretty hilarious how much she glorified Mandalorians and villified the Jedi. I mean yes, prequel era Jedi were assholes, but jesus. It was cringeworthy.
Nope, though there are bits and pieces that have been adapted for or brought up in canon material. For example:
>the Hammerhead corvette is a more compact Hammerhead cruiser design
>ancient Sith temple hidden on Malachor
>said temple contains a female-voiced Sith Holocron with an oddly familiar perspective on cause and effect
Or Syal Antilles. Wedge's sister and Soontir Fel's wife? How can she not be best?
Chiss are literally the best non-human humans in EU. Shut your mouth. Even their lolis are more mature then normal humans.
>In addition, they (Chiss) experienced a greatly accelerated growth rate compared to Humans, which contributed to their reaching maturity faster than Humans. Thus a Chiss at the age of 10-years held the physical maturity of a 20-year old Human. This in turn resulted in a culturally-imprinted emotional maturity that was many times above that of their Human counterparts. They were capable of living up to 80 years old, at which point a Chiss was considered venerable; children were between ages 1-10, and they experienced a rapid adolescence from 11-12 and were considered full adults by 13-14. Middle-age followed between the ages of 51-62, and those aged 63-79 were considered old.
Also be interested in how a super coldly logical Chiss loli would interact with the world compared to a regular human one.
>Chiss children go from little kids to literal juvenile adults literally overnight after reaching age 10
Cause it's hot.
>develop from 10-year old to 20-year old human equivalent overnight
I don't understand, how are they supposed to have high school harem antics with such an abrupt aging pattern?
I love the Imperial Agent story in TORtantic but its kind of dumb that they force Chiss species as the canon route for them.
>Hello fellow Republicans I am just your friendly blue ally, no Imperial accent? N-no I'm just from Chandrilla, my foster parents adopted me...
Anon, the Chiss are like the Vulcans of Star Wars. They are much less emotional or prone to behavioral outbursts or hot-headed antics then baseline humans. Those kind of things don't happen at all with their society.
I mean you could still have a harem but its going to be awkward explaining to your parents if your a human why your dating a 8 year old Chiss girl even if she's mentally more mature then a 20 year old human.
She would probably enjoy them. But she wouldn't give any outward indications that she actually likes them, Chiss are very analytical and cold generally speaking. You will have to bombard her with headpats, hugs, and maybe you'll get a quick return hug or physical embrace every so often in private.
Couldn't find any Chiss loli on pixiv so have best idol as a Chiss instead.
This fat fuck needs to die. The fact so many people shill him who in turn shills for Disney is ridiculous as fuck. He glosses over issues in the OT and TFA which are glaringly at fault like major plot holes, story inconsistencies, etc...to nitpick them in the PT.
RLM is a joke.
Chiss-Sachiko would be interesting.
>yfw RLM ironically can't take criticism
I like how when some guy from SD.net rebutted a lot of the dumb shit he said like how he claimed Episode 1 had "no protagonists", he just chimped out like a bitch and claimed "nerds and Lucas apologists were trying to draw him out into a debate with their delusions" even though the dude spent months setting up and preparing his video reviews of the PT.
Dude is very hilariously thin-skinned.
>yfw people cite his film school shit like being a physicist somehow means you're incapable of being wrong on physics
>tfw so traditionalist and past-loving that he can't move forward
Think so yeah.
I can see him killing himself one of these as the more and more how bad Disney rapes Nu-Star Wars, the more people realize how much they took Lucas for granted.
Aye. Please don't abuse the Chiss, they'll remember and come back in full force.
>We go from Vader and Sidious to characters like "Kylo" and "Snoke"
>We get Luke's entire character assassinated by Disney just to set up the Sequel Trilogy
I fucking hate Jar-Jar Abrams so much.
Holy fuck. I love this guy. He gives NO fucks. Almost no other actor could do this shit and get away with it. Mark must be making Disney pull their hair out.
The Alf eating one?
Mark Hamill is pretty cool. Never thought he'd be this honest with his opinion espically when Disney's involve, I guess he doesn't really care about movie as a career that much.
>The films have no evidence of the racism and oppression that the Empire supposedly enforced systematically
racism was never in the films.
The empire wasn't claimed to be racist at all.
The oppression was quite obvious.
>Storm troopers arrive on tatooine
>kill jawas, who clearly told them what they wanted to know
>kill citizens because they were the ones who bought said merch, knowing nothing of their origin
>literally put a town under martial law to try and sweep the area for the droids and presumably kill anyone else who has contact with them
>wipes out alderann as a purely symbolic show of force
>use torture methods on important diplomats
And that's just the first film.
Let's not forget they literally take over all of cloud city, making unilateral trade deals with the huts (the senate still exists, they just don't care if they have input) and of course requiring the head of the citystate to lie to his friends.
Lastly, in return of the jedi, they've invaded primitive societies in order to install military support machines.
They were the very definition of oppressive.
not him, but it was for me.
I mean, they set him up from the beginning of his time in TCW as mentally unhinged, but playing the long game, as well as pursuing his own brand of independence from the Sith way. After his final beat down his progression into something beyond a sith, more a true dark jedi makes a lot of sense, and much of his craziness in his initial introduction in Rebels disappears entirely the moment his plan to activate the sith weapon is initiated. It was an act to lull everyone into a false sense of security, and get Ezra to join him. You'll notice that once he gets his vision of Obiwan, it changes completely because he's seen that the key to everything, including himself, is there.
He's struck down and accepts that if it's for the sake of a child who will bring an end to the sith, he's okay with that.
A normal Star Destroyer has three shield generators, one of which is beneath. I can't remember for certain, but I think that Executor had more.
We are shown one of them being destroyed.
>thinking anyone in the galaxy gave a shit about Alderaan
Remember in Rogue One how the Rebels charging the beach on Scarif were all "For Jedha!!"? Nobody ever fucking yelled "For Alderaan!!" while charging an Imp position. Fuck Alderaan.
>EU Empire loses the capital, fragments into warlord territories, and still manages to keep fighting a bloody war of attrition with the NR for two decades before finally submitting to a peace agreement
>Canon Empire somehow manages to lose the ENTIRE Imperial Navy, a fleet that had the numbers and power to patrol a GALAXY, in a single fucking battle
>EU NR runs into bureaucratic deadlock with all the different planetary representatives all fighting for their own interests while being dominated by a handful of the more powerful planets, but still manages to get things done while the executive is controlled by the Skywalker-Solos or their associates, and has a powerful military with multiple fleets that are available to fight extragalactic invasions or seceding systems
>Canon NR degrades into literally bipartisan extremism and political gridlock and the executive can't do shit because they have no power at all, also they have no military so when a bunch of planets secede to join the First Order they can't do jack besides endorse Leia's privately funded Resistance because they have literally no way of fighting the First Order
Why do Canon have to all be morons?
>Stackpole literally thinks three X-Wings can kill even Super Star Destroyers in all his books.
Did we read the same books? I'm pretty sure Lusankya was still kicking and capable of killing them all even after being ganged up on by Rogue Squadron, two ISDs, an Alderaan War Frigate, and hundreds of freighters armed with missiles.
You can't honestly tell me that nonsense like The Glove of Darth Vader a.k.a. "I BID YOU... DARK GREETINGS" or the Jedi Academy Trilogy a.k.a. The Kyp Durron Power Hour that even Stackpole mocked, somehow those are better than Canon works like Bloodline, Thrawn, Twilight Company, and Catalyst.
The EU had some truly dreadful crap.
>or seceding systems
Was planet seceding against the law in the New Republic? I thought it was acceptable for planets to go independent from the new goverments since quite a few stayed loyal to the Empire.
I mean, I agree about screwing Alderaan, the planet had biological weapons hidden away if I remember correctly. But to be fair, Rebel soldiers doesn't really say anything during fighting in the OT.
>Was planet seceding against the law in the New Republic?
I don't remember the exact details but the plot of the (atrocious) Legacy of the Force with Evil Jacen was centered around the Corellians and a bunch of allied systems throwing a shitfit and deciding to quit the Galactic Alliance while hiding behind Centerpoint Station, which led to another little galactic civil war.
I don't think it was illegal in Legends. I know that's it's not against the law to go independent in nucanon. Although there's not been much detail on them, there were many Governments formed from the Battle of Jakku. There are the Confederacy of Corporate Systems, Coruscant provisional government(Basically the Imperials that didn't got to the Unknown regions and ruled by Mas Amedda under New Republic watch), New Separatist Union, First Order and the Sovereign Latitudes of Maracavanya(Which is basically a nation of pirates).
Oh right, wasn't that the war where it's just constant escalation by both side keep thinking that they have to strike first.
I see, thank you.
>New Separatist Union
Well that just sound great, name yourself after the guys who started the Clone War and directly led to the creation of the Empire.
I think the answer is that the canon New Republic was created based aorund the context of the prequels that we didn't have previously for Legends.
So since we know how Palpatine came to power now, it makes sense for the Canon New Republic to be designed in a manner reactionary against how Palapatine pulled it off. Meaning, a weak Chancellor with little more than figurehead power, an extremely limited central military, a capital moved away from Coruscant, and maximum autonomy for individual systems.
Additionally the whole history of the Legends NR was basically constant war against everything from imperials to warlords to genocidal aliens, so they needed a strong central government and military to survive. Legends NR has been at peace for decades
Those globes are sensor arrays, not shield generators. And Executor had multiple banks of them.
Also, Executor was being focused on by the bulk of the Rebel fleet. The A-wing struck the killing blow, but that was only possible because the ship was being pounded by dozens of capital ships.
>it makes sense for the Canon New Republic to be designed in a manner reactionary against how Palapatine pulled it off.
It actually doesn't. The system Palpatine exploited worked for a very long time and he needed decades of planning and preparation, and also force mind manipulation fuckery. Throwing all of it away just to make it impossible to do again is retarded, even more because there are not many who could pull it off again. Palpatine is the extreme, not the norm.
Literally all of this is out of character for Maul.
You do realize this is after Ackbar ordered the entire Rebel fleet, capital ships + all their starfighters to specifically target the Executor right?
>written like garbage with flip-flopping tenses (present vs past), grammatical errors and spelling problems, typos, and odd shit like using XIR in canon.
And here I was thinking it was translators fault.
That makes it even worse, actually.
Imperial - Russia, Austria, Germany, USA, Japan
Dirty Rebels - Chile, Brazil, Spain, Italy, France
I think I'm seeing a pattern here.
I mean I'm pretty sure that Stackpole also heavily overestimates the power of the average Imperial Star Destroyer considering that aside from Darth Vader's one, we hardly see Star Destroyers ever doing anything actually useful in the movies themselves. But the way he talks about them you to think of that they were some kind of interstellar death incarnate machine or something.
This Maps fucking stupid. Why is it considering Malaysia to be part of Thailand, thinks that Indonesia is Malaysia, and thinks that Singapore is in the middle of Borneo somewhere?
I never liked the kinds of tech levels on display in Knights of the Old Republic.
We are supposed to believe that the weapons and technology in use during the Galactic Civil War is leaps and bounds ahead of what was used during the Clone Wars, hence the whole three Clone Wars vintage Dreadnoughts = 1 Star Destroyer thing from the Thrawn Trilogy. And even the new canon Thrawn book draws a distinction between the old CW era blaster cannons and the new turbolasers.
But somehow a thousand years ago everything was actually more or less the same?
>he didn't watch TCW
They can literally mix-breed with Humans, anon.
You forgot Iran too.
The warships used by the Sith in KoTOR are vastly inferior to the ones used by the GE in present times. On top of that, they are part of the Star Destroyer family. And thirdly, all of the entire planet was ruined by Malak's bombardment, not just Taris City. Taris is a mini-version of Coruscant, a planet which entire surface is covered in hundreds of hundreds of kilometers of cityscape, all of that was nuked by Malak's fleet. Even centuries after the original deed, Taris hasn't recovered.
>On top of that, they are part of the Star Destroyer family.
They're both part of the Star Destroyer family in the same way that both HMS Victory and the USS Iowa are both ships of the line.
OH MAN that fucking chair at 7:19. The best chair EVER! Mark Hammill is based.
I'll take it because its SOMETHING. If you remove something, like the whole universe of alternate media since episode 4, you need to replace it with something else. Where is it? Other than that comic series there is NOTHING expanding on the new Disney canon, not even novels. If RO was their attempt at doing that then they have failed. Other than the heroine of that movie, it never bothers to give any of the cast to develop, not even a few minutes of exposition.
>Other than that comic series there is NOTHING expanding on the new Disney canon, not even novels.
Come on now, that's not fair. It's not much compared to the decades of EU novels (pic related), but there ARE novels out there. Even if you ignore (and rightfully so) Wendig's godawful Aftermath books, there are still some quite solid entries in there. Hell, the OP manga is an adaptation of one of them.
At least read Bloodline, it fills in a lot of what the state of the New Republic is right before the First Order re-enters the galactic arena, and also gives us the most based NR Senator in existence.
And hell, Thrawn is a fun read too.
The Del Rey era peaked with the NJO. Everything after it was rubbish, except perhaps Mercy Kill and some individual bits of Fate of the Jedi.
>the best parts of NJO in Traitor and Enemy Lines
You mean, you went directly for Matt Stover and Aaron Allston's bits. And ignored Luceno's finale.
I'd like to see the separatist council drawn in the style of this manga.
Hard to say, there were a lot of good ones.
Both excellent choices.
Not exactly obscure, but a rare choice.
I wish they hadn't removed carbine sweep, I know it was suboptimal trash but it looked cooler than the random flurry of poison knives.
>Del Rey peaked with the NJO
I liked the Dark Nest Trilogy, I was so-so about Legacy novels, I liked FoTJ a lot. Shadows of Mindor were also good, as were all of TZ's later novels.
>You mean, you went directly for Matt Stover and Aaron Allston's bits. And ignored Luceno's finale.
I mean I have heard that Luceno's finale was also good, but I was just sorta burned out on it.
Wasn't that the shit with space Cthulu based on a horrible misunderstanding of the TCW Mortis arc?
I have heard the Lost tribe bits were pretty good.
And as for LotF the entire thing was trashed by Denning and KT.
Chee already established that the Ones/Mortis arc in TCW was a real event despite fan theories it was a "mind-fuck" thing. If you mean Abeloth, the whole concept of the Celestials/Ones were teased for decades in EU. TCW just finally got around to showing us that the Ones were the most powerful members of the Celestials who happened to also be the literal personifications of the Force; Father = Balance, Daughter = Light, Son = Darkness, and Mother/Abeloth = Chaos.
I liked it.
Lost Tribe stories were the shit though. Too bad EU ended post-RoTJ stuff with Abeloth not being permanently killed, we will never get to see Ben marry Vestara, and both the Lost Tribe Sith and Krayt's One Sith still at large.
Also was I the only one that read all of NJO? I never skip out on any books in the series.
>Shit, they have Piett remarking that troops are just pawns
That is official imperial military doctrine, though, you don't send swarms of TIEs into combat without acknowledging in your heart that they're disposable and that most will likely die.
All of the really valuable TIE pilots fly interceptors, anyway
>brown Imperial sexually frustrated waifu
Hey /a/. Thanks for house our off topic conversation, this won't be a regular thing. We just wanted to escape the shills back on /co/ for a few days.
Thank you for being such great sports about it.
RLM is only loved by reddit anyways.
It might as well still be. They kept recycling characters, planets, settings, plot points, and events into Disney Canon Star Wars from the old EU books, comics, games, and so on.
But the whole "TIEs being expendable grunts" is still canon, it was made canon when the design works of TFA noted that the presence of secondary gunners and shielding on the First Order's TIEs represented a departure from Imperial military doctrine, in that the First Order is less inclined to treat TIE pilots as disposable
There is no "EU" in Disney Star Wars though. All of it is "equally" canon now.
Anon, the First Order Tie-Fighters that get shielding are only for their SPECIAL FORCES units i.e. aces and top veterans. Disney canon also gives pre-FO Imperials the Tie-Interceptor in the reboot continuity by about three years before TESB, in original canon, the Empire didn't have Tie Interceptors till shortly after the Battle of Hoth. Hell they sort of quasi brought back Dark Troopers and Purge Troopers into the new canon too.
>There is no "EU" in Disney Star Wars though. All of it is "equally" canon now.
It's still fair to call the stuff outside the movies EU because it does expand the universe beyond what's shown through the camera lense.
No, even the basic FO TIEs have shields, the Visual dictionary mentions them as why they go so fast in atmosphere without tearing their radiators/solars off. Special Forces just have better shields and a front/rear turret.
>Hell they sort of quasi brought back Dark Troopers and Purge Troopers into the new canon too.
Ironically the canon "Phase 2 Dark Troopers" look like Legends Purge Troopers, the Canon Imperial Sentry droids look like Legends Dark Trooper Phase 2s, and the Canon Purge Troopers look like Darth Vader concept art with a TCW clone Minigun.
I felt the FO TIEs were rather bland in terms of technology progression, especially since we already saw Interceptors an other more advanced TIEs flying around during the empire years, it just seems like they're going backwards. It gets worse when you compare it to the jump between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, which has a shorter time frame by about a decade but has a bigger developmental jump.
The not!rebellion flying around in nearly identical X-wing models doesn't help either. All the tech in general seems to be something that would fit for something taking place only a decade afterwards, not three decades.
She was Han and Leia's eldest daughter and Jacen's twin sister. There is very little shared between Rey and Jaina outside of being a Skywalker family member, each having brown hair, and being females. Jaina was all about joining Rogue Squadron and being a professional pilot in the New Republic Starfighter Corps, she's the closest in personality to the Solo Kids dad.
Rey is just awful.
>mfw I actually like this better than the Force Awakens or Rogue One
Holy shit Disney get with the program.
I liked the Jedha ambush sequence with Saw's terrorists, and just generally liked the "RPG Sourcebook" feeling Rogue One had.
Yeah it was pretty good, I like how the beginning was just a reprint of Mist Encounter (But sadly lacking Booster Terrik and neutrally changing the Strikefast from a Victory to a Venator.)
The only thing I liked about Rogue One in regard to Saw's group was that it shows just like in the original novels (film novelizations to be specific), that the Alliance was largely made up of criminals, terrorists, and what not and not PURELY just "freedom fighters" or leftover remnants of believers in the Old Republic. The Alliance literally took ANYONE who had a grudge against the Empire including frequently criminals like arsonists, murders, and so on. And the extremism displayed by Saw and his men is a nice icing.
>mfw RoTS is still the best modern Star Wars movie
Reminder that pic related gets his ass kicked more than Rey.
It was enough for many of the exact same systems to create the New Separatist Union after Endor. From what I've seen, the CIS legitimately believed that they were in the right. They witnessed the Republic becoming the Empire, the exact thing they believed they were fighting against. Then their worlds were subjugated by the Empire and exploited. Former separatists only joined the Rebellion to to fight against a common enemy, not restore the Republic like the Rebellion wanted
>Old/Pre-Disney Star Wars canon: Empire still fights the Rebellion which turns into the New Republic for several decades even despite further fragmentation as many high ranking Imperial generals/admirals/moffs/etc...breakway from the Imperial Remnant to form their own little galactic fiefdoms and empires
>New/Disney Star Wars canon: Empire can only last a few years after RoTJ despite no internal division and literally falls apart against a successor of the Old Republic that's actually MORE incompetent then the NR from the old canon
The NR has only a very small fleet because they decided to make nucanon Mon Mothma into space Neville Chamberlain.
They apparently only had the one fleet at Hosnian and a few system defense navies run by individual systems/sectors, like the pre-Clone War Republic.
Really only Borsk and his cronies were incompetent in Legends.
Mon Mothma ended up privatizing the fuck outta shit like prisons allowing companies whom are sympathetic to the first order to control them. Also, the New Republic was filled with Senators from places like Coruscant whom were pro Empire planets and supported the FO and stalled any chance of conflict against the FO
It ends with Vader saying "As long as you got that girl, I got (You)" & the clone being too scared of the other clone to kill Vader. Vader actually played things really safe. He knew he couldn't die.
I don't know anything about SW but this seems kind of fun. I like how it turned out the girl he wants to save isn't dead or captured or anything, but is just an antagonist he deserted.
This thread feels like /tv/ though
I myself, enjoy Star Wars regardless. I loved TFA & Rogue One. Even the cartoons (The Clone Wars & Rebels)I also can't wait for TLJ. This manga looks great, and I enjoyed the first two chapters.
No, just Nu-Mothma, Leia represented the other planets from Alderaan's sector for a while but was marginalized as a madwoman driven to extremism and paranoia by the death of her entire planet.
>but was marginalized as a madwoman driven to extremism and paranoia by the death of her entire planet.
Why, what did she do? Propose crazy shit like enforcing borders and attacking the FO before they btfo the NR?
Luke abandoning everyone was the thing pissed me the most, it was the most out-of-character thing he could do.
To be fair Leia had no other options than to retaliate and Han was always a dick, anyway, so him being a shitty father was not that far-fetched.
No. Leia is the only person who is not politically retarded in this era. She actually sees the First Order for the threat it is. The Republic decides that it is going to drop the Chancellor position for a new head of the Republic, called the First Senator. Leia then tries to run for Fist Senator as the candidate for the Populist party
However a friend of Leia's on the opposing party the Centrists reveals to the Senate that Leia's father is Darth Vader and thus destroys Leia's political career so she creates the resistance to combat the FO herself
I forgot to mention that this is all from the book Bloodline which was written by Claudia Grey, the same person whom wrote Lost Stars which this manga is based on
Bail Organa made a recording in a music box that Mellowyn, a relative of Bail's, had in his possession that explained Luke was her twin and that her real mother and father was Padme and Anakin, the man who became Darth Vader. Her friend then showed this to the entire senate
>Bail Organa made a recording in a music box that Mellowyn, a relative of Bail's, had in his possession that explained Luke was her twin and that her real mother and father was Padme and Anakin, the man who became Darth Vader
That sounds like a really dumb thing for a career politician to have in his possession. Did he not realize how damaging that could be to his daughter's career? What an idiot.
Resisted demilitarizing with so much of the Empire's fleet MIA after Jakku while most of the rest of the senate wanted to disarm and de-federalize as much as possible,
Oh yeah and that happens in Bloodlines.
Listen closely, anon, I'm about to give you a quick rundown on Sheev.
>Luuke is the clone of a man named Luke
>Therefore, Sheev is the clone of a man named Shev.
>Sheev is dead, but Shev is still alive.
>Shev is Snoke.
The recording was kept on a vault with stuff that were meant for her, but because Leia was involved with the Rebellion and then with the NR she never fulfilled her duties as member of the Alderaanian royalty, she gave up the rights for another member, which was secretly on the FO side, and this person manipulated one of her friends to make the information public, burying her political career