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Well /a/, now that the dust has settled. Who won?

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Well /a/, now that the dust has settled. Who won?
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Your Name won the public.
In This Corner won the critics.
Koe no Floptachi won jack shit.
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>>157327701
i tough Your Name was a meme what the hell
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>>157327701
shit I forgot all about in this corner of the world. I hope that wasn't in cinema here in Ireland.
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Well I sure wish I could watch any of those with non-shit video quality.
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>>157327739
/thread
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>>157327739
/
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>>157327701
Have any Blu-Rays been released for these yet?

I can't form an opinion since my country doesn't care about anime.
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So, any good anime movies in 2008?
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>>157327701
It isn't even possible to watch Koe no Katachi yet, how the fuck has "the dust settled"
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>>157327881
Koe no Katachi was released in Japan yesterday.
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>>157327904
I meant 2017, I'm retarded.
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>>157327881
Koe no Katachi is out TODAY
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>>157327904
>2008
Shin Chan
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>>157327739
Fpbp
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Teen melodrama
>eww! trash! ridiculous emotional manipulation! even nisekoi is more honest than this moebait!
Teen melodrama WITH SOCIAL COMMENTARY
>wow! masterpiece! the most important work of the last 30 years! savior of anime! there is still hope for this industry dominated by generic shonen and fujobait!

The sad thing is that I'm not even being sarcastic.
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>>157327953
>Fbpb
Fuck off with this reddit shit. Just /thread things like normal.
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>>157327943
>>157327945
SUBS FUCKING WHERE?
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Keit-ai won
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>>157327982
>subs in one day
How new are you?
I doubt we'll get subs for a month.
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>>157327701
Your name is the only winner here.
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>>157328005
Someone could take the airplane-rip. Of course timing still takes time but not that long.
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>>157328005
Theres already english subs out but they're fucking terrible and not worth downloading.
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>>157327932
I saw it months ago
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>>157327932
>how the fuck has "the dust settled"
The dust is always settled.
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>>157328060
This, I literally saw it last November.
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>>157327739
this desu.
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>>157328005
Shin Godzilla was subbed in like 3 days through the magic of autism
You have to believe
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>>157327739
This
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>>157328072
No you fucking autist.
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>>157328116
>Shin Godzilla
Wasn't that BD released WITH english subs though?
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>>157328141
It's my dust.
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>>157328102
>>157328060
Oh gee, so sorry I wasn't born in the right place

That said I want to see Red Turtle more than any of the movies in the OP
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Koe no Katachi is a great manga but the movie is disappointing garbage.
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>>157327932
"The dust settled" is a retarded thread template from /v/. It has lost all meaning.
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>>157327793
It is a meme anon, a meme that made hackoto shinkai millionaire
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>>157328151
I might be wrong since I arrived a bit late to the party, but as far as I know it didn't. It'll have an english release in August.
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>>157327739
>In this corner
You mean Nip critics, right?
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>>157328204
Billionaire in Japan.
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>>157327739
first post best post.
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>>157328201
>disappointing garbage.
I just can't stand all that chromatic abberation, blur and camera shakes.
Seriously, why do people think this is a good aesthetic for a film? It's fucking nauseous.
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>>157327701
>Who won?
should be obvious
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>>157328173
See, what you really should've said was "it isn't possible to watch it yet where I live".
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>>157328265
Reminds me there are faggots like you who only see superficiality.
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I haven't seen any of them, subs when. No cinema within 500km showed them.
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>>157327958
THIS. SO FUCKING MUCH THIS!
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>>157328265
>chromatic abberation, blur and camera shakes

Oh no
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>>157328201
The manga isn't that good.
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>>157328370
do you live in Antarctica?
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>>157328430
You need to go see a tongue doctor.
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>>157328430
Well that's just your opinion buddy.
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>>157328430
THANK YOU
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More like Koe no Katashit.
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>>157328463
No but none of them got a screening in my country.
We got the SAO movie and the Itoh trilogy though.
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>>157328331
It's hard not to see things "superficially" when these headache-inducing techniques are shoved in your face every scene.
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>>157327739
THIS.
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>>157328517
I'm sorry man
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>>157328521
Does it really give you headaches? I don't really notice it while I'm watching.
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>>157327701
Your Name was entertaining and better made than I'd have expected. Koe no Katachi is perhaps more rough around the edges, but it's the most artistically ambitious contemporary anime film I can name sans 2013 Ghibli. I'd take the latter over the former any day. Haven't seen Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni yet, but I expect it's at least good.
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>>157328521
You should get your eyes checked, you might have astigmatism or worse. And "superficiality" is a word.
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>>157328504
More like Kimi no NAH
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The manga is mediocre. Uses the easiest form of melodrama as the basis: cute girl vs. cruel world. Of course the mass would idolize it. And the effect is quadrupled when one of the richest animation studio in Japan takes on the adaptation
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>>157328613
I'm not the original guy complaining about chromatic abberation, but Hibike did actually give me headaches. I'm looking forward to seeing KnK but I just hope that I don't vomit while watching it.
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>>157327701
In this corner of the world > your name > shit > a silent voice.
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>>157327739
KnK won my heart and you can't do nothing about it plebdit
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>>157328692
I only remember Yamada's episode(the first) being particularly chromatic abberation heavy in Hibike
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>>157328666
Haven't read the manga but the film is much more about the protagonist grappling with his own guilt than the framing of a cute vulnerable person against a cold universe that doesn't give a shit about her
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>>157328005
We’ll actually get subs on the 22nd, because that’s when it launches on iTunes in the UK.
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>>157328666
No, satan. In Japan, Your Name was more popular than Koe no Katachi, and In This Corner won more awards than both of them.
In short, KnK is fucking shit.
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>>157327808
It will be on the 7th of June
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>>157328430
Terrible opinion
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>>157328666
This. People only love KnK because of the "manufactured feels". In terms of writing, development and character building is not only poor but also unrealistic.
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Kimi no Na Wa > Koe no Katachi, but only just.
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>>157328784
there's a gap between your argument and your conclusion that you haven't adequately reconciled
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>>157328765
>the film is much more about the protagonist grappling with his own guilt
a guilt that is cured in two seconds because the girl he abused forgives and loves everyone and everything.
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>>157328862
People can tell when there's no new IP. You can stop now.
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>>157327739
/thread
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>>157328782
>official subs by next week

Noice
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More like A Silent Flop.
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>>157327739
>Koe no Floptachi won jack shit.
The Government, no? Didn't someone talked about KnK being showed at schools?
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>>157328893
look at >>157328268 and pic related
it's not even a contest anon
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>>157328906
Did you even read/watch it?
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Are there seriously people that liked the manga?
Everything after the oneshot is a fucking mess of laughably heavyhanded melodrama, botched arcs and pointless characters and subplots. The author had no fucking idea what she was doing.
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>>157328959
Yep, and they look better than the cinema subs, which had some grammar and spelling errors in feel-critical moments.
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>>157328906
Shouko was selfless, had no self-esteem, potentially a masochist. What did you expect?
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Corner had no popularity on /a/, might be good. Why is that though, because MAPPA is not a big studio?
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>>157327739
>>157327817
>>157327866
>>157327953
>>157328104
>>157328129
>>157328233
>>157328253
>>157328544
>implying
Nip critics love KNNW too, arguably more than Kono Sekai.

The only one that loses is Koe no Katashit.

In all ways,

Kimi no na wa > Kono Sekai >>>>> Koe no Katachi

>>157328666
You could say the same for Grave of the Fireflies. Or Barefoot Gen.

There's obviously good and bad ways to make use of any concept. But I will admit that in Kono Sekai, it's a little bit excessive.

>>157328784
>>157328893
Kono Sekai just barely won more awards than KNNW, and usually for the same awards the came in either 1st or 2nd. But KNNW also won more international awards, while IIRC Kono Sekai won none. That might just be exposure though. I do think that in terms of writing, cinematography, and animation - KNNW wins over Kono Sekai. In this Corner has an interesting artstyle, but executes it with less grace than the other two. The director is much more of a novice than Shinkai or Yamada, and it shows.

But generally critical response to both is very, very good. Still, Anno's Shin Godzilla won more awards than both of them combined.

The Master ALWAYS wins in the end.
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>>157329082
Because it hasn't had a proper worldwide release yet
Shows in my country on the 28th tho, I will report back
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>>157329030
And the author had no idea she was getting rich.
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>>157329082
Because it didn't get a huge foreign release
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I haven't seen In This Corner of the World but I liked Kimi no Nawa more than Koe no Katachi. maybe because I didn't read the manga of the latter.
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>>157329095
nobody is talking about gay ass godzilla
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>>157329082
Because no one has seen it and Katabuchi is not as big a name as Shinkai / Kyoani.
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>>157329132
I didn’t read the manga, and I still thought it was fucking great. Since then, I’ve read the manga, which has filled in that little bit of backstory, and I can’t wait to watch it for the third time.
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>>157329095
What exactly was good about Shin Gojira?
Seemed mediocre to me.
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>boring
>literally who
>waiting for subs
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>>157329132
The manga is shit.
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>>157329064
The problem is that this supposed "lack of esteem" is romanticized. She acts like this all the time. So instead of a psychological condition this is transformed into her personality. Then, rather than look like she forgives Ishida because she is weak, it seems she forgives Ishida because she really likes him.
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>>157329110
Wow,it made money, that must mean that it was good.
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>>157329225
Well, the scathing criticisms of the government aside - because while people familiar with Japanese politics find it funny, but others find it dull - The Godzilla scenes are just executed perfectly. There's a real sense of terror and awe about them, which you don't really get from the 2014 version, or really any Godzilla in a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzldtg1wqhM

If you didn't think that was the coolest shit ever, I don't know what to say. Yeah, I kind of expect Anno to pair a destruction scene to sad music - that's one of his trademarks - It just works incredibly well.

It's a movie with a load of cultural resonance and captures the Zeitgeist really well. Same reason Kimi no na wa got so damn popular, not just with young viewers, but seniors too.
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>5 minutes in
>rolling stones my generation is playing
Is this a meme..
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>>157329095
>You could say the same for Grave of the Fireflies.
Unlike KnK, Grave does not portray villains and heroes, only people trying to survive the war. The war is the bad guy.
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>>157329345
The author gives no fucks and went on to write another shit manga.
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>>157329418
Her new manga is pretty decent.
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>>157329401
>rolling stones
dont b8 me anon
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>>157329396
And we'll be seeing bits and pieces of Shin Godzilla references in movies and games and anime for years to come. A lot of creators fell in love with it.

https://youtu.be/hq82BYo3Td8?t=262

>>157329413
Either way, it's a protagonist vs world conflict. And I don't really thin KnK is a great movie either. It's kind of garbage, and the manga is too.

I mean, I like Kyoani in general, but I'm not a braindead fanboy who latches onto any garbage they shit out just because of
>muh yamada
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>>157329396
>>157329511
go make your own thread about it you tit
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Already saw all 3 of them here I'm Spicland and I rate them In this Corner > Your Name > Silent Voice
I'd already read the manga for both In this Corner and Silent Voice before, didn't really like the story of a Silent Voice since then
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>>157329001
Yeah, did ya?
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>>157329401
Felt just like my murrican movies
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>>157327739
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>>157329607
perfectly captured the glorious ecstasy and freedom of youth, god tier music cue. Yamada knows her shit.
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>>157329607
Ik I thought this was the MCU for a second
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>>157329556
Did you miss the part where he's only able to forgive himself at the very end of the film?
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>>157329856
Probably the only Godzilla besides the first one good as an actual "film"
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>>157329856
It's great, but not mind blowing. Easily better than Your Name and Koe no Katachi. Anno did a very good job especially making the film a commentary.
Not as good as Kono Sekai though.
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>>157329856

Too long but enjoyable.

Really loved how Godzilla was portrayed.
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>>157329933
I liked how they used all the trains in the tokyo wards to fuck up godzilla
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>>157329511
>Either way, it's a protagonist vs world conflict.
Yeah, but in the case of KnK, the point is that everything is set so that every character hates her, so that she suffers, as if only the reader could see how sweet and gentle she is.
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>>157329988
Shoya could clearly see that all along, which is why he was so frustrated with her, he just hadn't learned to process and display emotions like a normal friendly person.
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>>157329928
Man I wanted Kono Sekai to play in theatres so bad, it's that good? I'm pretty surprised but it picked up a couple awards I respect
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>>157329978

That was a BIT over the top but still great.

And the whole thing with the trucks pouring liquid into godzilla? Not really doable in a city that was fucked up. How did they manage to drive there?

I'd say I like it better as a godzilla movie considering the original movies.

Though I really, really, REALLY liked the how godzilla looked like in the newest american one. And it sounded amazing too.

I want a movie with just that godzilla trying to fight other monsters without any named characters.
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>>157329856
It's great, but not for everyone I guess. It's like the first movie rewrote by Aaron Sorkin.
Pretty damn interesting unless you're expecting dumbass kaiju wrestling like in the 70's.
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>>157329988
No need for that hyperbole, her family still cared for her like her sister and grandma. Her mother too even though she had difficulty showing it
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>>157327701
KnK is the only one with a The WHO song
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>still have to wait a month to see Kono Sekai in the cinema
Fuck ;_;
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>>157330171
check-fucking-mate
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>>157330220
>it's never coming to theatres
Fuck
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>>157329869
>Did you miss the part where he's only able to forgive himself at the very end of the film?
She tries to kill herself, he coincidentally arrives at the exact time and saves her, so he ends up falling. It is like the writing forces these situations to make him suffer as much as she and that way everything would find a balance.

"You have suffered as much as she, now you can forgive yourself." How convenient. See, it's too easy, too unrealistic.
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>>157328265
>chromatic abberation
I can't stand that shit.

It's an ABERRATION. It's not wanted. It is a result of internal reflections between lens elements. Don't fucking put it into shows.
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>>157330171
>a The WHO
>a
autism
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>>157330171
>it's true
Holy shit based Yamada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp9nCw96uWA
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>>157329856
Anno's magnum opus
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>>157330296
they are The The Who of rock bands, after all
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Kimi no Na wa lacks an aesthetic identity, haphazardly juggling between a light bodyswap romcom, a superficial and illogical sekai-kei Japanese commentary and a constantly reiterated and sensational tale of lost connections that Shinkai has stuck and done nothing interesting with for over a decade. It doesn't end there, the film opens with an out-of-place TV opening and constantly shifts back to AMV style without any consideration for the synaesthetic flow of the cuts. The characters are self-inserts with nothing beyond generic quirks and melodrama to give the illusion of depth and development whereas in reality you know as much about them in the end of the film as you do in the beginning. Aside from some impressive bits of animation (the meteor), the film is surrounded by glossy digital animation and a distinct lack of craft in fleshing out the characters and giving them life via character acting. This stood out to me the most when I compared it to The Wind Rises or Princess Kaguya. In fact on the topic of Ghibli, it feels like Ocean Waves is the better version of Shinkai's entire filmography and even he seems to acknowledge it as such with his direct homages.
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>>157330296
the band is called "The WHO" you underage little fuck
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>>157328692
>>157328744
Blur was quite common in Hibike though. They seem to have tried to simulate bokeh but the in focus areas aren't always in the same plane so it doesn't make sense.
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>>157330356
the intro was awesome, fuck you
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>>157330363
Nigger just say "a song by The Who" not, "A The Who song"
Also fuck off with your shitty dadrock.
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>>157330356
Is this a pasta?
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>>157330271
That's completely unrelated to what you originally tried to say
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g-g-g-g-g-g-g-eneraSHUUN
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>>157327701
ksnkn > knnw > knk
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>>157330271
That's how a lot of people exorcise their own self-loathing, actually.
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>>157330491
>all three movies start with K
>KKK
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>>157329095
>The director is much more of a novice than Shinkai or Yamada, and it shows.
You might be retarded, Katabuchi is a far more legendary director than Shinkai and everything he's made is leagues about him. Princess Arete is one of the top ten anime films ever made. Shinkai refers to him as his sensei and Miyazaki respects him more than everyone working today.
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I'm fairly certain 99% of /a/ hasn't seen all of these.

95% have only seen one.
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>the who.
disgusting.
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>>157330531
But KnK advocates for nip girls getting BLACKED
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>>157329095
>Kono Sekai just barely won more awards than KNNW
Kono Sekai literally won the entire Yokohama Film Festival though. That's INSANE for an animated film.
To put that in perspective, that's literally Japan's Cannes equivalent.
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>>157330584
Who's Next is literally one of the ten definitive rock albums of the 1970s
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>>157330356
Is this Pasta? It looks like Pasta.

>Kimi no Na wa lacks an aesthetic identity, haphazardly juggling between a light bodyswap romcom, a superficial and illogical sekai-kei Japanese commentary and a constantly reiterated and sensational tale of lost connections that Shinkai has stuck and done nothing interesting with for over a decade.

Ignoring the fact that literally nothing you've brought up has anything to do with aesthetics - These are storytelling elements you're complaining about - the film does have a strong aesthetic element. Less so compared to Shinkai's earlier films, but that's a good thing. Much akin to, say, Five Star Stories, Shinkai movies have a way of drowning in their own atmosphere, and being moody to the detriment of anything else. For example, his dappled character lighting fucks up character silhouettes, which is a no-no in animation.

Toning that down, and letting Ando handle the keys, was a much smarter move.

>The characters are self-inserts with nothing beyond generic quirks and melodrama to give the illusion of depth and development whereas in reality you know as much about them in the end of the film as you do in the beginning.
This is just layers upon layers of buzzwords. Nor is it a bad thing to have strong exposition early on - that's what the first act is for, after all. Characterization here was certainly more subtle - which is probably why meme-spouting brainlets can't pick up on it as well.

Go back to your Kyoani containment threads.
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>>157330555
Yeah that anon is fucking retarded, Shinkai lost in almost every Directorial Awards.
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>>157330072
>Shoya could clearly see that all along
After having fucked with her childhood, of course.
>>157330140
>her family still cared for her
Younger sister? Yes. Mom? She was first a bitch that helped her to suffer for a long time, only at the end came to show some affection. Father? An asshole. Teacher? An asshole. Ueno? A bitch. Grandmother? Oh, grandma was very kin... oh, no, grandma died, which means MORE SUFFERING.

KnK is cheap writing. It's like set fire to a bunny.
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>>157330584
Dumb underage who listens to drake and lil uzi
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>>157330635
It's a fucking pasta. Don't reply to him.
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>>157327739
Your name was too popular among normies
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>>157330654
>After having fucked with her childhood
It was during, mostly. Like when she tried to be friends with him at the playground and he threw dirt at her - clearly out of fright of the intimacy and the fact that he felt the same way.
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>>157330627
>rock from the 70's
gross
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>>157330757
your loss my man
a lot of great shit came out in that decade
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>>157330757
Go back to your rap music and other modern trash.
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>>157330711
>normies
Spotted the crossboarder.
At least Your Name was much better than KnK.
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>>157327701
All I know is the objective best girl, and ultimate waifu is Suzu.
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>>157330801
Normie isn't crossboarding
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>>157330757
Fuck you.
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>>157330837
>Normie isn't crossboarding
Yes it is. Go back to /r9k/, /pol/, or /tv/.
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>>157330837
Nobody on /a/ use normies you fucking crossboarder.
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>>157330896
>normie
The only "reddit" one here is you, now fuck off and kill yourself.
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>>157330896
>All these faggots who believe they are critics
speaking of critics, the best critic in the UK liked both of them
https://youtu.be/OpwXATNGUsQ
https://youtu.be/-OB2tdu1AZc
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>>157330934
Not /a/ you fucking mongoloid. You're literally a normalfag from reddit.
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>>157331000
>projecting
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>>157330896
Nice tears.
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>>157331015
Who're you quoting?
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>>157330616
I'm not denying that's impressive, but again, both films did really well in critical circles, but obviously a war story IN FUCKING JAPAN is going to have mass critical appeal. I think you underestimate their obsession with that shit.

I know what the YFF is, I wouldn't call it the Cannes though.

>>157330555
Katabuchi is legendary, I won't deny that. Arete was a great movie, but like I said, he's not terribly experienced. He's most famous for storyboard work outside of Arete, if anything, and maybe novice isn't the right term but I can't think of a better word for someone in the industry for a long time, but without much to show for it.

One movie, even one many years ago, doesn't mean you have a breadth of experience, and his more recent projects, few in number, have fallen flat for the most part. He hasn't picked up on many techniques or styles innovated by people like Kon or Takahata, nor does he often innovate with his editing and direction. If I resurrected Dezaki and asked him to direct an anime, chances are he'll suck.

Hell, I think Miyazaki's a mediocre film director nowadays by how he just refuses to innovate, either on a technical or narrative level. He's been telling the same story, the same way, for years.

Compare that to Takahata, whose work changes and evolves and tells stories that vary in tone and message.

Granted, staleness in style and ideas is a complaint I'd levy at Shinkai too - at least, until KNNW came out.

>>157330649
Katabuchi won 2, Shinkai won 2, and Shinkai was at least nominated for the Tokyo Academy Awards - Katabuchi wasn't.
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>>157330896
Your Name got more awards than KnK in Japan, your opinion didn't matter at all.

>normie
>reddit
Go back there.
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>>157331015
>projecting
>implying
I'm not the one defending the term "normie" on /a/. Please lurk 2 years before posting.
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>>157330757
Delete yourself, underage faggot.
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>>157330965
Why are genuine critics so much better than Youtube ones?
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>>157331089
>>157331074
>*autistic screeching*
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>>157331128
>*action*
I can't believe people like you actually exist in this day and age.
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>>157330831
What a woman,doing nothing.
I wanted to strangle her.
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>>157331128
>spouting non-/a/ meme
Kill yourself.
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>>157330786
>>157330791
>>157330853
>>157331097
go back to the asylum.
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Two random "cinephiles" on Koe no Katachi
>I'm lost for my words. I'm in absolute awe. To be moved to such emotion without any understanding of the language. Thank you Naoko Yamada.
>I feel as Resnais in New York in 1959 in witnessing to what is his own realization of cinema.
>Cinema does not floor me like this. I don't lose reason. I cannot describe this.
>I cannot talk of the feeling it has, I cannot talk about "moments" of absolute elation, I can not talk about the treatment of disabled
>Cinema is dead; long live the cinema.
>How to mark the hundredth anniversary of the Japanese cartoon.
>Absolute sincerity

>If there is a word that can go beyond the concept of love, I would use it to describe my emotion to Koe no Katachi and the staff.
>But there's no such word, of course. So all I can say is, "The moon is beautiful. I want to experience the beauty of the moon again."
>I'm not sure what the best parts are because the symmetry imposed on the structure is so well-done. I keep thinking about the slippers and the splash of the water. It is so satisfying to connect everything into one totality that encapsulates the struggle of growing up.
>With a premise like Koe no Katachi, it could have easily exploited deaf people for the sake of love. But the story goes beyond there.
>the anime keeps reminding the protagonist (and the viewer) trying to help the deaf girl is hypocritical/偽善; he isn't some knight
>the deaf girl is also somewhat unlikable too; she isn't some moe girl romancing over like in the manga but a pathetic naive character
>if anything, the film can be summarized as a romance film about seeking repentance and the right words to apologize; it's a powerful film
>with ideas like solipsism, repentance, forgiveness, returning to society, and hypocrisy, it's hard to swallow black-and-white heroes shit
>more people should watch koe no katachi to see how redemption as a theme should play out not as a power fantasy but as a genuine sentiment
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>>157331122
because they're generally people with journalism degrees who've been doing this kind of thing for decades
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>>157331198
don't test me
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>>157327739
+1
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>>157331122
Youtube one's are fanboys first, critics second. That's why capeshit movies tend to invite them to press viewings.
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>>157331342
That's a poor opinion you've got there.
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>>157331342
opinions do not change facts, you're right
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>>157331407
dumb frogposter
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>>157327701
kimi no nawa won by default just because koe no katachi was a rushed mess and I haven't watch in this corner of the world

both looks good tho
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Kizumonogatari won
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>>157327739
/thread.
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>>157330555
To call Katabuchi "legendary" strikes me as an exaggeration, and to name Princess Arete as a top ten EVER movie is bold as hell. Few people, if anyone, would back you up on that.
>Shinkai refers to him as his sensei and Miyazaki respects him more than everyone working today
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask for a source, since I'm pretty sure you made up at least the latter claim.
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>>157331568
whatever
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>>157331592
>Princess Arete as a top ten EVER movie is bold as hell
>implying
It's like you haven't even seen the film.
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>>157331646
>Redditor
>implying
Frogposting is not OK on /a/, fuck off back to your containment board.
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>>157331342
I don't know the first one but the second is from @highimpactsex on twitter
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>>157331068
Except Katabuchi's films while having a Takahata-esque realism to them incorporates different ideas, styles and techniques. On Mai Mai Miracle:
>The realism in portraying the dynamics of childhood imagination was also noticed by Ronnie Scheib, who further on in his review for Variety pointed out that Katabuchi, "exploits deftly time facial expressions, judiciously chosen minutiae and complex cross-cutting to grant emotional depth and tonal resonance to a deceptively simple story of girlhood friendship."
>The Variety review appreciated on the director's complex cross-cutting technique, when presenting two worlds a thousand years apart. In the film, the princess of the Heian era, "a girl their age whose face they cannot yet visualize, remains isolated in her parallel universe as Katabuchi inventively leaps timeframes."[26] This ancient world at first only spring forward in the mind of Shinko, who believes her mai mai (the cowlick in the middle of her forehead) is the reason for her unusual ability.[27] Both the Variety review and independent film reviewer Chris Knipp elaborated upon the fact that this "children's story" has a darker side, that is cleverly mixed in to bring a realistic perspective. "Shadowing this enchanted cross-temporal childhood ether is a half-glimpsed adult world," where the dark and complex parts of adult life opens up new discoveries for the kids in the form of "tragedy but also accommodation."And the children realise that "good and evil are not so comfortingly distinct." With this added perspective, Katabuchi's storytelling skills enable him "to layer an aura of postwar disillusionment without disturbing the pic's well-sustained innocent tone.
>On the large scale, Katabuchi's film depicts Japan of the '50s, "caught between an imperial past of rigid class distinction and its Western-influenced, caste-loose future," and it presents "two sides of an ambivalent East/West fusion, conveyed with surprising clarity."
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>>157331640
I have, obviously.
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>>157331713
>Yeah it is
>(Dead)
Stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
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Is SAO Ordinal Scale good?
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>>157331878
>implying
Mods are just keeping /a/ at a higher quality of posting than the trash dump /pol/ is.
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>>157331897
>"Your name" is the ultimate normie movie. I'd give it a REE! out of 5.
holy shit dude
talk like a human being
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>>157327739
d-delete this.
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>>157331738
There's also an interview where he explains his different directorial approach for In This Corner around somewhere. On to the other topic, Takahata's films have different styles because of the change in animation directors (Kondo, Momose, Tanabe) around him and that he doesn't impose on his animators a uniform style like Miyazaki does. Even then Miyazaki's The Wind Rises was a far cry from anything he's worked on ever. The only major directors I think are going through the motions and producing the same theme/premises are Shinkai and Hosoda. At lease Your Name is the first Shinkai film with good animation but there's not much else to say about it. Being less ponderous and more "accessible" is a laughable complement to him.
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>>157331897
>Not only that, but there was a hidden liberal agenda in the movie enforcing the idea that traditional genders do not exist anymore.
/pol/tards aren't pathetic bitter virgins they said.
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>>157331965
>her face
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>>157332020
No it's not. /pol/ is full of underage normalfags. It's like you fuckers just discovered OTHER boards and it's no wonder threads on /a/ have been pretty shit lately.

/pol/ is not /a/, keep your stupid 3D politics in your own shitty board and out of my anime.
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>>157331738
>Except Katabuchi's films while having a Takahata-esque realism to them incorporates different ideas, styles and techniques. On Mai Mai Miracle:
I don't know why you would classify Takahata as realistic. He's done more mundane movies than most of Ghibli, but he's also done some pretty fantastical stuff too. Kaguya, Pom Poko, and Horus. Not to mention all his 70s and 80s TV background.

He's a diverse man with many talents. That's what directors should aspire to be.

>The realism in portraying the dynamics of childhood imagination was also noticed by Ronnie Scheib, who further on in his review for Variety pointed out that Katabuchi, "exploits deftly time facial expressions, judiciously chosen minutiae and complex cross-cutting to grant emotional depth and tonal resonance to a deceptively simple story of girlhood friendship."
Well, that's true for a lot of people. And I'm not saying Mai Mai was a bad film - it wasn't, just mediocre - it doesn't excel at that sort of thing either. If you're talking cross cuts then Probably Kon's work was the most distinctive example in anime I can think of. The animation is expressive sure, but that's to be expected of high-budget Japanese Animation. I'd argue that of the three in 2016, Koe no Katachi was actually the best animated, even if I think it's the worst of the bunch.
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>>157332108
/a/ talks about politics all the time, lurk more.
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>>157332170
>/a/ talks about politics all the time
Make a thread right now anon. I fucking dare you. Also, why not with a frog image too? Let's see how long you last.
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>>157332170
This is not /tv/ retard.
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>>157332005
>Takahata's films have different styles because of the change in animation directors (Kondo, Momose, Tanabe) around him and that he doesn't impose on his animators a uniform style like Miyazaki does.
To be fair, that's not a bad thing. It doesn't terribly matter what the cause is, if the end result is better. And let's not pretend that Takahata isn't a very innovative man himself - Horus was groundbreaking in terms of animation.

>Even then Miyazaki's The Wind Rises was a far cry from anything he's worked on ever.
Sure, but he falls into many of his same traps, and the movie has certain other faults that makes me quite dislike it. WHY WOULD YOU CAST ANNO AS A VOICE ACTOR.

It innovated in the wrong ways.

>The only major directors I think are going through the motions and producing the same theme/premises are Shinkai and Hosoda. At lease Your Name is the first Shinkai film with good animation but there's not much else to say about it.

Plenty. This movie is a far departure from the narrative style and themes that Shinkai usually works with, but still recognizably his work. I would completely agree with you for all of Shinkai's other films though, before Your Name I thought very little of the man. There's plenty good to say about it. I thought the characterization was fantastic, so neatly and believably done. Lot less heavy-handed than something like Kizu or KnK, sometimes a single glance is enough to tell you about the character, or seeing their environment. Reminds me of Mimi wo Sumaseba. But unlike that movie, as great as it was, this one had a male lead that wasn't cardboard.

>Being less ponderous and more "accessible" is a laughable complement to him.
Kimi no Na Wa was, IMO, the most ponderous of Shinkai's films. Just because the characters are less introspective and mopey doesn't take away from the film's ability to meditate on themes. Is Citizen Kane any less contemplative because the main character is brash and arrogant?
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>>157332184
>>157332193
Remember the threads about the live action death note movie? Don't bullshit me, /a/ talks about politics all the time because it shows up in anime all the time.
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"Normie" is a word used by people /a/ considers far closer to real "normies" than themselves, I.e it is a false poser faggot word and you are not a real /a/ user if you say that. /a/ isn't persecuting you because you're too abnormal for them, but bevause you use a word indicating you are too normal for them. You ARE a normie if you even used that word, which is a bastardized version tweaked to be usavle around actual normalfags. The original and real term in the 4chan context is normalfag. "Normie" is the fucking whitewashed/SJW-approved version because the "fag" part is offensive to them and they want to be able to drop this term on places like Reddit, Facebook and twitter - which are pretty much the textbook definition of normalfag dens - without fear of getting reprimanded. Which defeats the whole fucking point.

If you are being careful to "fit in" on various shitty normalfag websites, you are actually as normalfag as they fucking come and just have some fucking ludicrous idea in your head that you're not. It's the same as these "omg I'm such a nerrrd XD" shitheads on those same sites only here it's "omg I'm such a weird unique person XD". In summation shut up OP because you clearly have no idea what you're dealing with and /r9k/'s whiny emo shit is not what /a/ is about.
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>>157332405
I see complaints about "Reddit spacing" pretty frequently but I'm only now understanding how frustrating it can be to read. Cut that shit out. Bad take on Wind Rises, as well.
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>>157332466
Fuck off with your pasta
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>>157332409
>live action death note movie
you just proved his point.
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>>157332473
>I see complaints about "Reddit spacing" pretty frequently

Oh, I actually have trouble reading small text so I usually prefer to space things out. Yeah yeah, reddit spacing and all, but who cares. I've been here since 2006 and I remember doing it back then, and no one gave a shit.

>Bad take on Wind Rises, as well.
I mean, defend it then. I don't think it was a terrible movie, just an above average one ruined by casting Anno.

There were other issues too. The dying wife bits were the definition of unnecessary melodrama to an already engaging story about purpose and guilt. Nor was that autobiographical, the poor guy's wife didn't actually die young. I also disliked the artstyle, as I felt it contributed very little to telling the story, and some scenes, especially with the imaginary airplanes, kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
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>>157332535
If you weren't new you would know you can talk about hollywood adaptations of anime or manga on /a/.
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>>157332631
If you werent knew you would know that those threads are full of crossboarders like you.
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>>157332735
>!!???
>......
Stop
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>>157332735
It just came out
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>>157332735
https://torrents.nyoo.moe/89747C6932DDFD0C72110AEBE1709C08950F5213.torrent
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>>157327814
Your Name is available in HD right now you ballsack
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>>157332800
There's no BD rip you fucking meme of a person.
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>>157332783
>nyoo.moe
the fuck is this
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>>157332984
it's a nyaa clone created by /g/entooman+/a/utists
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>>157332783
is this real
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>>157328965
Whats the difference?
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https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/view/924163 holy shit guys
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>>157333056
so nyaa.pantsu is dead?
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>>157333112
No, it's ransomware.
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>>157333152
no, nyaa.moe is a mirror of nyaa.pantsu.cat
they are the same site, just a different domain
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>>157331226
>>I feel as Resnais in New York in 1959 in witnessing to what is his own realization of cinema.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>157327932
I saw it last week
>tfw this is the OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&noapp=1&v=Zp9nCw96uWA
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>>157333152
I think moe just redirects there.
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>>157333056
Is it even subbed yet?
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>>157333186
i mean nyoo.moe, not nyaa.moe
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>>157333204
yes, it's up on pantsu
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https://twitter.com/HorribleSubs/status/864919539594743808
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>>157333291
subs are already out but apparently the dialogue is shit.
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>>157333369
We're talking about the official UK web release with english subs
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>>157330896
so this is the power of kyoanusfags.... woah
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>>157333433
Nobody cares when it gets released in your caliphate, Ahmed
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me
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>>157327701
All of those were overrated mediocore stuff. They're time killers at best
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I haven't watched KnK yet, but for some reason the idea of a mute girl being bullied makes me hard.
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>>157334262
This. Real patricians watch experimental college stuffs like Geidai projects. These cheap sappy flicks even made all those hack Oshii movies look like genuine masterpieces in comparison.
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Yo senpai, has In This Corner subs already out?
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>>157327739
So Your Name and In This Corner are loved by retards while Koe no Katachi is loved by men of culture?
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>>157334464
yeah, since not too long ago
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>>157334434
Getting harder and harder to pick out the satire from the sincere these days
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Fuck you /a/. All 3 movies are masterpieces and we should be glad they exist.
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>>157334632
masterpiece is a strong word
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All of you niggers are stupid. The BDs haven't come out so everyone that watched the movies outside of theaters literally watched at a shit quality, dumbfucks.
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>>157327739
FPBP
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>>157334700
Koe no Katachi came out yesterday.
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>>157334669

Nah, they will be benchmarks for years to come.
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>>157334746
Yeah? How about Your Name?
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>>157334789

All 3 of them will be.
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>>157334789
Has been in theatres pretty much everywhere
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>>157334827
Not in my sub-human country called Portugal.
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>>157331568
Fuck off back to /pol/
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>>157334632
none of them is a masterpiece. People are just starting to like anime.
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>>157334749
I would be surprised
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>>157330896
Leave this place if you hate it so much.
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>>157327701
Middle one is the only movie I haven't seen yet. No rips yet?
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>>157335267
There's some rips on chinese websites.
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>>157334434
Not sure if bait or serious
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>>157327701
We all won.
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Seriously, did Your Name become such a big smash mainly because of Kei-Tai?

(Keit-Ai still triggers my autism. Japanese syllabaries do not work that way.)
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>>157332020
This is an anime website, stormie. Your ilk is not wanted here.

Don't you have some horses to fuck?
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>>157336464
No, because people outside this board don’t know Keit-Ai. And anyway, Your Name is nothing like it.
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>>157333194

Either I just watched Kimi no Na wa too much that I got desensitized by Shinkai's visual approach or Koe no Katachi actually looks really good.
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>>157338032
most visually ambitious anime I've seen in years
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>>157327739
But Kastel-sama said Koe no Kotachi was good.
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S-should I watch the 720p ver of KnK guys?
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>this thread
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>>157338299
It's an acceptable rip and a very good movie, I watched it yesterday
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>>157338299
Is not that bad, if you use good scalers
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>>157338381
>if you use good scaler
Do you have a program or something?
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>>157338443
mpv with ewa_lanczossharp
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>>157338613
thanks man
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>>157338683
download mpv from here:
https://mpv.io/installation/

and create a text file and paste this:

# video
vo=opengl
profile=opengl-hq
deband=yes
deband-iterations=4
scale=ewa_lanczossharp
cscale=ewa_lanczossharp
dscale=mitchell
sigmoid-upscaling=yes
correct-downscaling=yes

If your pc lags just use:

# video
vo=opengl
profile=opengl-hq

save the text file as .conf and name it mpv, copy the .conf in the same folder as the player
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>>157338797
Holy shit you're the man. Thanks for spoonfeeding me
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>>157331049
You're not on /jp/, you dirty crossboarder
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>>157327739
Koe no Katachi won Japan Movie Critics Award though
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>>157327701
Fireworks, Shall We See Them From the Top, Side, or Bottom?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=19481
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>>157339453
with a title like that i should see that movie from the TRASH BIN
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>>157338797
You don't have to include these
vo=opengl
deband=yes
dscale=mitchell
sigmoid-upscaling=yes
correct-downscaling=yes
They're either already default or already included in profile=opengl-hq
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Didn't watch Your Name because I don't care about Shitkawa. KNK was pretty and I thought sound editing and soundtrack were good, which I guess is important in a movie involving deafness. The story kinda lost my interest after the mid point around the bridge scene and in the end didn't really care too much for anyone. I really wish they had toned down the chromatic aberration effect.

Kono Sekai was better in every aspect. The visuals are tied beautifully to the themes and the protagonist's artistic inclinations. The bombings sound amazing and I had the theme song stuck in my head for weeks. The slow pace is comfy as fuck. I like sad stories but was a little worried about the WWII setting because I really couldn't care less about melodramatic shit like Grave of the Fireflies, but the approach to the "civilian struggling with war" setting had a great balance of optimism and despair that got me crying bitch tears both times I watched it. 10/10 gonna buy that shit on BD as soon as I am able.

From what I gathered a lot of japanese are salty about a 3 second scene with a Korean flag, but when I was checking out posts I couldn't tell if they're upset because the scene was changed from how it is in the manga or just because it was kept at all. Anyone know more about this?
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Koe no Katachi > * > shit > other two
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>>157331880
Literally the same basic outline as every SAO arc. Plotholes up the wazoo, incredibly stupid antagonist. Actually, everyone does stupid shit that had me doing my best not to start laughing out loud in the movie theatre. The animation somehow managed to be worse than the better looking episodes of the show. Though if you like SAO to begin with I don't know why it matters if it's good or bad, just watch it.
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>>157339760
>Shitkawa
Who the fuck is Shitkawa?
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>>157340089
Whoops, meant to type Shinkai. That's what I get for multitasking.
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>>157327739
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I actually I like Koe no Katachi for its less touch with maintream entertainment industry, they also use actual seiyuu instead of mainstream actors as lead, barely mainstream sponsor unlike KNNW and in corner, but it is still doing well.
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KyoAni should have made it an anime series, skipping so many parts in order to focus on Shouya's personal struggle is a fatal mistake.
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>>157334632
There is only one masterpiece of animation, and it's not even Japanese.
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>>157340345
No you're retarded
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>>157340366
>K-On
>not Japanese
Are you an idiot?
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>>157340345
fuck a series
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>>157331965
Woah that's yamada?
She's a qt.
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>>157340366
When the Wind Blows?
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Your Name was good but why did people flip out over it so hard? I wouldn't call it better than Spirited Away by any stretch.
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Kono Sekai has the best story (source material), pacing, voice acting, historical research, sociological complexity, sophistication of presentation, watchability for senior citizens and children and an overall feeling of completeness.

Koe no Katachi has the best directing, sound design, soundtrack, editing, rewatchability, psychological complexity, character acting.

Kimi no Na wa has the best effects animation, background art, photography, accessibility, basic entertainment value for teens and young adults.
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>>157340575
I don't know about you but I watched it with high expectations and finished it very satisfied and I think it absolutely lives up the hype. I just had such a emotional experience and it's something I can't easily put into words. Now, about spirited away. I think it's stupid to compare them. They're entirely different movies and both masterpieces.
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>>157340575
Spirited Away is the new testament of animated filmmaking, why don't you maybe lower your standards just a hair, eh?
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>>157340575
It's good as hell for a rom-com and very accessible. It's not a great "film" maybe, but it sure was enjoyable.
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>>157340660
>>157340686
>>157340698
I'm only comparing them because of worldwide gross, it's just surprising that Your Name was so much more financially successful than Spirited Away. Does it really come down to accessibility? Even in the States Spirited Away was well-known for a time, my fucking mother ended up falling in love with it and she hates this shit.

I just don't understand why Your Name was so popular in the first place. Greatest love story ever told, maybe?
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>>157340878
>it's just surprising that Your Name was so much more financially successful than Spirited Away
I think adjusted for inflation Spirited Away grossed more, actually.
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>>157340603
Wrong in almost every single way.

Kono Sekai honestly has a really generic story that is received well due to the fact that it's a war story. And like, aside from the main character, the cast isn't really all that engaging.

Kimi no Na Wa has good effects animation and BG art, sure, but it's actually tremendously popular with seniors too. The film has enormous appeal over all segments, since it focuses so heavily on rural and old Japan, the elderly find nostalgia in it.

KnK has no redeeming elements.

>>157340575
>>157340686
Eh, I would. Miyazaki honestly struggles with characterization a lot, he makes these beautiful worlds full of people I don't give a shit about. Like Haku. That was the blandest character ever.

Kimi no na wa at least had some interesting characters with emotions I can relate to and get invested in. And it does it quite well, I'd say. It's as good as almost any other anime movie I could think of. Even something like Whispers of the Heart, which was pretty damn good to begin with. Hell, in some ways its even better, Fucking Seiji had 0 personality aside from "muh violins"

>>157340698
If you watched the movie, and thought it had 0 depth, then you're an idiot. You probably even picked up on some of the theming subconciously. There's no rule that says straightforward narratives with happy endings can't also have a great deal of emotional impact and subtext to impress.

>>157340878
The love story honestly is only a setup - it's everything else that made it so resonant.
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>>157340930
Where did I say it had 0 depth?
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>>157340930
I cared about Haku because Chihiro cared about Haku, honestly
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>>157340930
Why are you defending a worse version of 5 Centimeters Per Second
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>>157340930
>The love story honestly is only a setup

Dude, what? The whole thing is a love story. Everything interesting and poignant about it is because it's a love story. The non-love story shit is totally superfluous and is only made interesting because of the romance element. The body-swapping, the time displacement, if you take away the star-crossed lovers element you lose everything. The tragedy comes from that element. I wouldn't give a fuck about Itomori if I wasn't able to stand in Taki's shoes overlooking the impact site. You think he was anguishing over the townspeople in general? The beautiful scenery? Wrong. When Mitsuha goes to Tokyo to visit him without realizing she's three years early, do you think it would matter if she didn't love him? Would the scene have a quarter of the impact if she thought of him just as a friend? Of course not.
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>>157327701
In This Corner was a masterpiece compared to the other 2

KnK was Drama trash, and Your Name was pure garbage, only difference is that it was "pretty" and on top of that it had a really fucking retarded romance
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>>157341195
What made it so good?
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>>157339760
The scene don't change from the manga.
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>>157341107
It's a much better version famalam
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>>157340930
So many bad opinions here. For starters there's no denying Kimi no Na wa has the least depth of the three movies but the characters are basic ciphers with nothing interesting or substantial about them. Compared to Chihiro, Kiki, Jiro or Nausicaa they're as shallow as a puddle. Almost like blank slates given the most vaguely relatable thing an inexperienced storyteller can think of. Though it's even harder to take you seriously saying Kono Sekai is generic or KnK is irredeemable when you praise the most basic sekai-kei ever done in anime history.
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>>157328005

You love that Nekojiru pic don't you
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>>157341419
The two leads were great, both had loads of personality and little quirks which made them feel real
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>>157328231
>>157328151
>>157328116

What. Shin Godzilla was already translated, it got a limited release in the States. The BD probably already has English subs, too.
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>>157340445
Fantasia?
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KONO SEKAI BD FUCKING WHEN
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>>157332479
It's true though. "Kek fuck off normies REEEE pepe.jpg" is just the new "rofl I'm such a nerd xDDD rageface.jpg"
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The way this thread went, I think we can all agree the real winner is Kizu.
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>>157342148

>Kizu
>Good
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>>157342148
I didn't watch the whole movie but that intro scene was really good, dodgy CG aside.
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>>157342284
Man Doukyuusei was so bad
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>>157327701
Koe no Katachi >>>> You're name >>>> literally what
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>>157342318
Why?
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>>157341014
Which is fine, Chihiro wasn't THAT bad of a lead. She wasn't that dumb bitch from Totoro. But the appeal isn't the characters, it's the world. Like, give her or Haku the Plinkett test. How do you even describe Chihiro? I can't really think of like, anything really, aside from generic "cute young schoolgirl." Compare that to Shizuku. Night and Day, I have a vivid image of her painted in my head.

>>157341107
>worse
It's better in every single day
You must be one of those people that think tragedy = depth.

>>157341140
Sure, the story would have less impact if not for the romance, but even as Shinkai describes it, it's not a movie about Romance. It's a movie about the awe of nature, the relations between Rural and Modern Japan, and really, the meaning of life. Granted, the story might explicitly mention these things very little, but it's told in the way the verdant woods of the village contrast with the blocky, bright streets of Tokyo. The medium is the message.

In the same way Utena wasn't really about Lesbian Cars, Kimi no na wa isn't really about the romance. It's a plot device more than anything else, for a more profound story about the nature of fate. Does that mean lesbian cars aren't great? Hell no. Supporting devices can be fine in and of themselves, the side romance in Nisekoi was the only damn thing good about it.

>>157341419
Yes, Kono Sekai is generic. Honestly, far more generic than the other two. I can list off the top of my head two dozen anime about life in wartime Japan - it's an exceptionally popular topic in Japanese media. You know how many live action films about that turn up a year?

Kimi no Na Wa is only a body swap romcom on the surface - that shit stops literally 30 minutes in. The rest of the movie is an exploration about Hindsight and the Tohku earthquake.

>sekai-kei
I bet you think Eva is sekai-kei too, right. No, this was a disaster movie, if anything.
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>>157342409
Melodramatic gay shit
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>>157342250
I see you're quoting me, and you're correct. It is good.
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>>157342409
Completely artificial, nothing more than a dolled-up exposition of bad anime clichés and bad writing. Coming from someone who has a genuine appreciation for gay cinema, this was entirely amateur.
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>>157342469
>that dumb bitch from Totoro
What kind of fucked up human being could even think this? Like, you're not a good man.
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>>157342555
do you like Weekend?
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>>157342409
I watched the whole thing and I found it silly with the whole romance. Besides the fanservice I didn't care much for it. If it were a straight romance nobody would give it the time of day.
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>>157342284
Really, it should more be like

Flick: SAO the Movie
Movie: Kizu
Film: The Red Turtle
Cinema: In This Corner
Kino: Your Name

Popularity and Accessibility != shallow, after all. Some of the deepest and most powerful movies ever made were box office hits, like Julius Caesar, or Taxi Driver.

Sure, you have your Bergmans, your Weines, Orson Welles', and Ozu's, but there are also Hitchcocks, Kubricks, your Kurosawa's and apparently, your Shinkai's.

>>157342593
I don't think I don't find Miyazaki's work charming, it is cute. But it's also terribly deprived of any innovation and often he goes for cool premises instead of interesting, human stories. Like, aside from the animation, the art, and the whimsical story, what does Totoro really say? It's not a bad movie, it just has a very specific, and rather shallow, purpose. Which is fine and all, but let's not give it undue praise. I'd say the same about the first Transformers movie.

That's not to say Miyazaki hasn't done any GREAT, godlike movies. Nausicaa, Lupin, Kiki, Spirited Away, and Laputa, to name a few. But the man is so prolific, and so stubborn, it only makes sense that there are mediocrities and flops here and there, too.
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New KnK subs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5xEqVkkEjO9Q3huVHd2NldLV1E/view

This is, what, the third edit? Wonder how many we'll get through before the official subs come out. I would love to see Dark_Sage review them all for shits and giggles.
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Kimi no Na wa. was entertainment. Fun movie with a slight layer of depth to keep people interested. Deserved its sales.

Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni was art. Fantastic movie about life in WWII. Articulates a Japanese spirit in response to disaster. Deserved its awards.

Koe no Katachi was well-intentioned attempt by Yamada to do auteur-level directing about the difficulty of communication between humans. Unfortunately it was dragged down by the juvenile as fuck manga storyline. Now that KnK won the Japan Academy Award Yamada's name is on the same level as Takahata, Shinkai, and Hosoda, so she should no longer have to tie herself to shitty manga adaptations. I look forward to Yamada being able to direct something original and fully artistic - that should probably blow all our minds.
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>>157342843
>Now that KnK won the Japan Academy Award
Didn't it lose out to Kono Sekai?
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>>157341775
I love Nekojiru.
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>>157342748
Actually, scratch that. I'm a little premature on Totoro. That movie did have interesting themes about modern life and the joy of nature, and the strange and instinctual pleasures to be found outside - I've thought about this before, and I jumped the gun a little. That's why they have shit like the Catbus, it's this conjunction of technology-based lifestyles, and nature.

That said, none of the characters were all that interesting, nor contribute all that much to meet the end. Yes, I know they were children, but you can write non-generic kids with personality. What happened to Stand by Me?
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>>157342555
It was a more believable relationship than the one in Your Name
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>>157342843
>Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni was art. Fantastic movie about life in WWII. Articulates a Japanese spirit in response to disaster. Deserved its awards.
>Kimi no Na wa. was entertainment. Fun movie with a slight layer of depth to keep people interested. Deserved its sales.
Again, I really don't get this. Is everyone so new and unfamiliar with Japanese film that they think stories about wartime Japan are new, or even uncommon? They're one of the most popular genres out there, behind maybe Samurai epics and love comedies. You just don't see it too much in anime.

To say that it articulates a spirit isn't a stretch, nor do I think it's a bad movie. But you could say the same, or perhaps even more, for Kimi no Na Wa. It reflects the Zeitgeist of the country, and became popular for the same reason Shin Gojira did - because it was so resonant and relatable. If that doesn't "articulate the sprit" of an era, I don't know what does.

Don't get me wrong, I like to be a contrarian hipster too, but there's that, and being willfully ignorant of what you're talking about, or finding a premise "creative" and "unique" just because your mongolian zootropes don't deal with the themes.

That said, In This Corner really was fucking amazing.
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>>157343073
Yes, boipussi is more realistic than body swapping. That doesn't mean the characters are engaging or interesting beyond fujo bait.
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>>157327701
We all won, for three excellent movies.
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>this entire thread
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>>157343073
At the very least Your Name was entertaining. If I'm gonna watch crap it better be at least that.

>>157342666
I do actually, thought it was pretty good.
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>>157343203
They were much more engaging with an actual believable chemistry between them and their interactions.It's actually suitably romanticized and doesn't overstep its boundaries unlike Your Name. If you choose to interpret Your Name as a romance, it's nothing but nonsense and that's actually the best praise I can give for it. What the film actually becomes is why I dislike it.
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>>157343531
>They were much more engaging with an actual believable chemistry between them and their interactions.It's actually suitably romanticized and doesn't overstep its boundaries unlike Your Name. If you choose to interpret Your Name as a romance, it's nothing but nonsense and that's actually the best praise I can give for it. What the film actually becomes is why I dislike it.
>likes fujobait
>hates kino
Subtly romanticized? Come on. It's gay as shit. These characters aren't human, they're spindly-limbed puppets who have gay sex. I'm not going to say Kimi no na wa is the picture of realism - it has time travel and shit, after all, but the characters were well realized. They had motivations, fears, anxieties, talents and flaws. The romance might not have been perfectly fleshed out but at least it was creative and you get a sense that the characters were at least friends. In gay singing, it's just... like the hands of god were drawing them closer to fuck. Like, the whole story is about one dude trying to fuck another - there's little in terms of development past a certain point, aside from "will he or won't he."

Well, to each their own, but no one can cure shit taste this terminal. If you can't see why Your Name is a better movie, or hell, why any movie this year was better than gay choruses, then you simply care more about homosex than narrative, characterization, editing, direction, cinematography... you name it.

Well, the production wasn't that bad, but it was so blatantly just Shin Onuma style that it becomes kind of annoying.

The Kuroshitsuji movie just came out, why don't you go watch that instead?
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>>157343886
>They had motivations, fears, anxieties, talents and flaws. The romance might not have been perfectly fleshed out but at least it was creative and you get a sense that the characters were at least friends.
This never happened in Your Name beyond the most superficial of quirks. In Doukyuusei we had passionate and intimate scenes and coming of age themes perfectly conveyed by Nakamura's delicate touch as well as nice bouncy, cartoony designs by Hayashi to add to the humor. It wasn't melodramatic and it was an overall sweet vignette of a love story. Nothing great but fun.

I do not think any of Shinkai's films have good directing or characterization. I can praise the urban depiction and the animation but overall none of his films are relatable or cohesive. Your Name in particular by-steps logic and coherence to appeal to the base emotions of the viewer. It becomes a disconnected string of emotional scenes as the film goes on and and its thematic underpinnings of fatalism sour any spark of romance or connection I could even grasp on to. The book makes itself clear this wasn't actually a tale of bonds transcending space and time. Shinkai is just not a good filmmaker and would be better off making AMVs or shorts
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>>157342937
Yes, he probably means the media critics awards which are irrelevant
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So many words wasted by so many posters ovr a thread that was basically "stop liking what I don't like".
Why do you keep doing this to yourselves fellow anons?
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>>157343173
Or maybe all your arguments above aren't really that convincing to others, including me. I haven't watched the other two and can't compare them to each others, but I didn't find Kimi No Na Wa amazing at all. It's just okay.

I have read Kono Sekai though. I like it, but I didn't find the manga amazing either. I liked the paneling.

Both made me cry, and I enjoyed them too, but to be honest they are not something that I'd put highly on a pedestal.
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Hows the TT tl?
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>Critics liking literal 'nip be gud boi we dindu nuffin' film
Two. Nukes. Weren't. Enough.
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>>157345780
I am pretty sure any film that shows off a country in a good light will always get praise for said country. While others might not think the same.
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>Not enough free time to go to the cinema
>Couldn't watch Kono Sekai
>Finally get some free time
>Go to watch KnK
>Its shit.

Just please.
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Kono sekai, will it doing well overseas? The theme will offence some people I think

KnK I see did pretty good though not as good as KnNW
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>>157345780
Why do you take interest in the media of a country that is known to not shy away from showing its history in a positive light. Are you perhaps retarded?
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>>157346105
But I don't like american movies.
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>>157346378
Epic joke, kid. If you don't have anything to say just leave.
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>>157346421
Woah, don't be so defensive. America is the greatest country on earth, USA USA USA. Happy? Geez sorry for the joke.
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I thought Koe no Katachi was really good.
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>>157345025
I wasn't trying to write an essay about the merits of the movie here, just pointing out that Kono Sekai isn't as incredible or original as people think. I do love the movie, and I'd rank it among my favorites with Honey Mayo, Cagliostro, and Omoide PoroPoro.

It does lose a lot of its impact if you're not familar with the Earthquake. But let me, at the very least, sing its praises for something objective. Like, say, the visual leitmotifs. This has always been a thing Shinkai liked to use a lot, along with musical montages, and there's a slight expressionist tinge to it. For example, in 5cm/s cherry blossoms and trains are invoked early on as symbols of separation, and in the final scene are again, but with a different sense of finality, not longing. This sort of thing is brought up to 11 in Kimi no na wa, and you get the idea that it was almost constructed from the center, outwards. With how layered the editing seems to be and the way that scenes build this inter-connected web of subtextual symbols and themes. The way the sliding subway doors in Tokyo parallel the siding wooden doors in the village, the arched bridges contrasting the Shinto arches, and the goddamn visual bifurcators. Or the fact that, in this epliogue scene with these muted, grayish colors, and right after giving a speech about Natsukashii, the leads meet again and all of a sudden the rather bland Tokyo scenery bursts into a spray of aquamarine hues - It's rather subtle, but it works really nicely. These things aren't immediately obvious, but they, even subconsciously, set a tone for the movie.

I mean, of course you're going to have visual continuity and such, but there's a dearth of this sort of visual storytelling in, say, Kono Sekai and Koe no Katachi, and this really goes to show how dedicated the movie is to make the way it tells the story, part of the story itself. And this attention to detail is something everyone can appreciate, even if you don't like the movie.
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>>157346578
You thought wrong.
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My favorite movie is, Wolf Children, story wise none of them beat that.

>Will they watch Kono sekai without all the positive review and exposure of the mainstream media and critics, all those crowdfunding being really fastly fullfilled most likely because that kind of sponsor too. You maybe will never hear of it here if it flops in nipland
>will Kimi no Nawa do well if it being released in small theaters and without Toho big promotion?
Since it is the first Shinkai movie that actually do well
>meanwhile KnK while it gets some effect from Knnw success but it is Kyoani, source material is pretty popular, seiyuu leads are popular, otaku will watch, will it do well if Knnw flop?

Answer /a/
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>>157346747
>>157346698
>My favorite movie is, Wolf Children, story wise none of them beat that.
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>>157346698
>wolf children
>good story

I mean, I really liked that movie. The characters were empathetic and the story was interesting and honestly pretty relevant and timeless - but it's a furry fetish film. That's not even a question anymore, Hosoda is a fucking furfag.

Aside from that, it doesn't really do anything different or interesting or that stellar. It's not Tokikake with net-kei entering the mainstream. It's not Summer Wars, which is a fantastic family romp. It's just a good story, told well, which honestly you can say for any of the three films in this thread.
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>>157346578
It is really good but /a/ like to hate on Kyoani so just enjoy
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>>157327701
A Silent Voice.
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>>157328151
Probably, but there was a subbed rip of that back in November or December, before the blu ray came out and only a month or two after the US release.
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>>157346864
I don't see any story like that before? we got that wartime story everytime, time travel everytime, I will give some point for deaf girl but story is too long. Summertime is pretty boring it put a lot of unnecessary things, I remember having hardtime finishing it.
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>>157347176
A story about a parent raising his/her unconventional kids in a difficult society? I mean, anime aside, that shit goes back to, like, The Scarlet Letter. And hell, what site are we on? よつば
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>>157346578
Indeed, the quality of the movie was so high that my kyoani hateboner was reduced to nothing. Only for that movie though, they are still a shitty stuidio in general.
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>>157345925
You only have yourself to blame.
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>>157346886
>likes to

It's only the logical outcome to persecute the rampant cartel-tier circlejerk of the Kyo*nifags.
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>>157328784
>I entirely base my opinion on what other people think
Sad.
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>>157344701
Because most people still believe objectivity in arts exists, and they do all they can to prove what they like is objectively good and what they don't is objectively bad, but they don't realize it's an impossible task so thet end up spinning in circles without reaching any conclusion.
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>>157347956
Objectivity in art does exist, it's just mostly in extreme cases or minor aspects.
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>>157347956
Millennial please go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc
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Is there a subbed release of In This Corner yet?

People are saying the bluray's out already but I can't find anything on nyaa.
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>>157348219
Such as? Technical stuffs like numbers of frames, shades of colors, etc.? These actually are subjective too. Different anon, by the way.
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No..This can't be...This was supposed to be Yamada's masterpiece...WHY DOES NO ONE LIKE KYOANI STUFF IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>157348620
Not him either but there are things that are intrinsically pleasing to the eye. There are certain composition rules in art and design that follow either geometry or nature itself, so when we replicate them in art it tends to feel familiar. It also has a lot to do with how we as humans evolved. Sharp things will always look dangerous or aggressive and round things will always look passive to us, a cartoon bad guy is usually very pointy for example.
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>>157327958
Whic one is which?
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>>157327958
Which one is which?
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>>157347956
Your post is art
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>>157349139
There are just too many artworks that broke the supposed representations, and some even seemingly tried to purge like everything precisely because those so-called composition rules are not authentic enough nor resemble the supposed reality itself. I read somewhere that, for example, Beckett was trying to purge language itself in his literature (perhaps because language couldn't describe God properly). Has it ever occurred to you that those rules might just be the ones which are unnatural?

Anyway, I didn't mean to assert it strongly. Maybe it's wrong to use the word 'actually' on my post before. I do share the negative sentiment when sometimes artists go too far and make their works 2deep4u or something like that (then, usually some jackass just takes advantage of those 2deep artworks and launder money out of them. Or so, I heard.)

Cheers.
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>>157328784
>Because it was less popular and didn't win as many awards I don't like it.

How about you watch it yourself and base your opinion on that rather than on what critics think you bandwagoning faggot.
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>>157328005
How come Japanese Blu-Rays don't include English subs from get-go?

You'd think there'd be a high number of English citizens living in Japan that'd want that feature.
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>>157327739
My nigger.
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>>157342748
>I'd say the same about the first Transformers movie.
you've gotta stop man
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>>157327701
Me, because I get to watch and enjoy all three movies.
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>>157327739
zis
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>>157347732
>>157350367
>still defending this hot garbage
Fix your shit taste.
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>>157353905
Fix your malfunctioning brain.
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>>157353524
>implying
Transformers 1 was a great movie and knew exactly what it was doing. One of best action flicks ever made.
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>>157327701
For me, anime fans in my country.
2 of those finally has been released on our country and I'm fucking pleased.
Here's hoping for more anime movies in the future to be released here.
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>>157346747
>KNNW
>do well

What the fuck?
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>>157328819
Thank you for telling me that, I would of completely missed it.
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Good or bad idea to bring people who don't care about anime to see This Corner of the world but are up for it?
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>>157358695
It's hardly an otaku film
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>>157358754
True.
I keep forgetting that anime shows and films can be quite different.
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>>157327958
Which one is which?
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>>157327701
So when are we suing Shinkai for stealing our meme?
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