>the isekai genre has gotten so bad, totally unrelated manga

>>157314430
>If you hold weapons in both your hands, you can fight two opponents at once!!

Really drums your cerebellum

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>>157314430
I will never be able to read Light Novels. Some of you guys always say how much better the source material is, but getting to it would mean to suffer through this shitty prose.

>>157314613
well it is exaggerated in this manga page, but yeah LNs are pretty trash. the translations don't help much either and I dont think the nuances are portayed very well

>>157314613
You should read good ones, with actual literature awards and something, like Violet Evergarden by Kyoani Books.

>>157314430
They already mocked it in Watamote.

>>157314668
>>157314613
They're fucking horrible to read.

>>157314668
Yeah, it's probably a bit unfair to judge them so harshly, often they are for a younger audience and it's difficult to translate japanese into a good english. But still.
>>157314675
Not falling for this trap.

>>157314613
Usually the translation is just unspeakably bland. Compare jew press vs fanfic of Konosuba for instance.

>>157314613
so far NHK and Spice and Wolf are the only ones I've been able to read. and I'd say those are both genuinely good, not just good for light novels.

I've tried reading a few one offs that were highly rated on sites like manga updates though, and they're fucking terrible

>>157314610
The point of holding a dagger in your second hand is actually defensive, not offensive.
Using it to attack is possible, but since its reach is shit it would mean that your opponent has the first attack.
It's much smarter to plan around catching their attack with the dagger and using your longer weapon to strike.

>>157314719
Wait,which one are you saying is better?

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>>157314430
Basically this.>>157314613
The writer of Oreimo thinks it is a great artform because he made a success but in reality, everyone looks down upon it as nothing more than a meme

Real Japanese authors like Natsume Sōseki and Haruki Murakami are crying whenever someone glorifies this vile and insulting excuse for a literary trend

LNs are books for kids. No worse or better than the garbage available in Young Adults at Chapters.

>>157314829
Depends on your martial art actually.
If its a rapier x swordbreaker dagger, then yah. Your goal is to catch the opponents sword then thrust for the kill

However, if its something like the Niten Ichi-ryū, then the longer one is used for parrying and the shorter for the kill.

Eskrima stuff and Chinese hookswords uses 2 short weapons and are used in equal purpose

>>157314872
It's all about entertaining the reader, if a reader is happy aftee reading it the author did his job well
Same way it works for every other medium

>>157314613
You are missing nothing.

>>157315037
Yes. Just like smoking. You may feel happy but in the end, you just lost a couple of brain cells

>>157315037
>if a reader is happy at the end
I like entertainment that doesn't make me happy because I'm a pretentious artsy douche

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>>157315068
For the last time, /lit/.
Nihilism is not art, goddamn it.

>>157315119
actually I'm /co/ but okay

>>157315127
Eww

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>>157315051
No? Are you fucking retarded? There's a clear difference between inhaling rat poison to reading.
Reading anything is a mental exercise for the brain, anything that's written with good intent is worth a merit of being looked at. If you want to compare smoking to writing, you can talk about shit you see on 4chan, like your own fucking post.

>the story of a stylish 19 year old NEET and her 13 year old NEET sister and how the older sister tries to groom her younger sister into a successful author so she can make money off of her

>>157314776
Even spice and wolf had terrible prose.

>>157314829
>>157315013
Why not just use a shield instead of getting yourself stabbed when you try to pull some tricky shit with a thin piece of metal?

>>157315141
What exactly do you not like about /co/ (other than how it's full of fucking retarded /tv/ shitposters and /v/ crossboarders I mean jesus christ where's the fucking moderation)?

>>157315182
a dagger is lighter and easier to carry around
it also looks cooler

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>>157315152
Look at this stuff and tell me how it can make you smarter

>>157314430
>totally unrelated manga
That's a manga about writing trashy web/light novels. That's a direct relation.

>>157315119
Nihilism is good

>>157315182
parrying is quicker and keeps you mobile, you won't be able to attack that well after taking the impact on a shield. dagger is also lighter. comparable alternative is a small buckler

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>>157315182
Shields are heavy, unweildy, and decraeses your sight
Stuff like the buckler and parrying daggers are surprisingly better than shields because of better mobility and parrying

>>157315185
>implying /tv/ and /v/ are the problem
It's the tumblr infestation.

>>157315182
The only scenario where shields are better is during an arrow shower

>>157314872
I'm just saying man, I enjoyed Hakomari a hell of a lot more than I enjoyed The Wind Up Bird Chronicle.

>>157315182
Same reason people carry pistols for self defense and not rifles. You don't want to carry around large heavy equipment when you can only ever expect to use it very rarely if at all.

>>157315272
I've been here for a decade and the biggest change I've noticed on /co/ (aside from all the movie faggots who won't leave and constantly have retarded console wars bullshit) is that suddenly people are complaining about tumblr, but it's never anything specific or obvious false-flag shitposters trying to assert their dumb meme.

/co/ has always been gay as fuck btw, why do you think we read so many comics about buff men in skin-tight outfits punching each other and getting all sweaty and bloody

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>>157315216
Nihilism only concludes in suicide.
Which might actually be good

>>157315185
Not him, but I frequent /co/ a lot and it's sadly like what you said. Fucking /tv/ posters. I love it when people storytime stuff and talk about new things in the industries, but shit like the /tv/ shitposting and company wars is overkill at this point.

>>157314668
>I dont think the nuances are portayed very well

I would agree if I didnt know better, some do have then yes but there is a lot of trash without any nuance, its not really something you can blame light novels because I have read Eragon so they arent exclusive to Japan.

The main issue is all the Isekai web novels that because of SAO success ended up being picked up in the hopes of being the next SAO (I know SAO isnt technically Isekai but its fucking Isekai)

>>157315349
It's fairly recent too, you used to be able to discuss the sales charts in a reasonable fashion but now /tv/ and /v/ shitposting has completely taken over. Same with the Win-O'-Thread, which is a damn shame. Hail Hydra

>>157314776
Gosick has good writing too. It's written more like normal novels rather than the typical LN.

>>157315324
Actually from what I remember about /co/, is that it has a large female population, when compared to the rest of 4chan. The other issue about /co/ is there are not very many new series to talk about, so generals can reign supreme there when compared to other boards.

>>157315152
>My cozy wish fulfillment makes me smarter
During the time you spent with your escapism novels you could've done something that actually generates synapses.

>>157314430
Feels more like making fun for sao.
The giver of birth of isekai

>Let all make stuck in a game stories
>Why not just make it a reincarnation instead of game since we there are to many stuck in game manga with fantasy world
> Game called sword art dual,people cannot dual wield

>>157315389
>generals
Yeah well that's cartoonfags, which is full of a rotating crop of underage faggots, as well as more than a few autismo queers.

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>>157314610
>Shank two niggas at once
>Shank one nigga twice