Anime protagonists used to be based as fuck. Where did it

Japan is a bunch of pussies now. You shouldn't expect much.

>>157261602
>those fonts
Fuck off and die. Also good job posting almost exclusively 90s anime so we know you're a newfag

>>157261602
>Subaru and Touma not manly as fuck
Good job showing off your faggotry

Your taste became shit.

>>157261671
Migrate to /co/. A bunch of capeshit heroes there are muscular manly.

>>157261678
Spotted the self-inserter.

Did you enjoy pretending to be Kirito today?

>>157261757
Spotted the dipshit that makes assumptions and makes garbage threads. No, I'm not a self-inserter. I just can spot a newfag from a mile away.

10/10 thread because it has Lina fucking Inverse

>>157261678
>almost exclusively 90s anime
Less than half the characters on the left are from the 90s you utter idiot.

It's always funny to see morons like you posting on /a/ when you've seen less than 50 anime.

>>157261602
>that sameface on the right

fucking hell tell me that's the same anime.

>>157261602
God, I hate that short hair with bangs cut. These character designers have one of the few things that can make their MC character more distinguishable from the rest and they all opt for the same retarded hairstyle.

>>157261803
>I just can spot a newfag from a mile away.
Says the idiot who thought left was mostly 90s anime.

You probably watched your first anime this year. You aren't qualified to shitpost.

>>157261602
>Action shows on the left
>harem shows on the right
WOOOOOOOOW

>>157261850
>>157261905
Spotted the retards that can't count. Unless you're counting some of those as being 80s because their manga/LNs started earlier, those are mostly 90s. Now fuck off back to /co/

>copy-pasted one-dimensional "macho" protags
>copy-pasted one-dimensional "nice guy" protags
Nothing has changed.

>>157261602
>no cgi gatsu on the right
>no dbs goku on right

>Who is Shinji Ikari the thread

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>>157261602
>almost every character on the right has a bang going down the middle

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>>157261975
>guts is a one-dimensional macho protag

your shit taste and new is showing

Isn't part of the problem that the best manga simply don't get anime adaptations?

>>157261970
Goku - 80s
Violence Jack - 70s
Lupin - 70s
Momotaro - 80s
Ryoma - 70s
Kenshiro - 80s
Lina - 80s
Gene Starwind - 90s
Domon - 90s
Guts - 80s
Bobo-Bobobo - 00s

Literally 2 out of 11. Way to go you stupid idiot.

>>157262155

>>157261926
Go on and post the action protagonists of today then.

>>157261602
Most animation studios decided to throw all sensibilities in design out the window in favor of drawing "cute" girls doing """""cute""""" things. IIRC...

>>157262183
>guts 80s
>lina 80s
>goku 80s
Fucking retard. DBZ specifically was a 90s anime
Lina and guts had their anime in the 90s
Go back to /co/ you fucking newfag retard.

>>157261602
1995 and Evangelion was a turning point.

>>157262345
>Fucking retard. DBZ specifically was a 90s anime
That came out in 1989? That was based on a manga that started in 1984? What does air date of the anime have to do with anything? It's about the eras the characters were conceived.

You're a dead set moron dude.

>>157262293
all the action protagonists are little girls now. get with the times.

>>157261602
When you were born faggot

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Don't worry! He's coming back!

>>157261602
Unironocally it's Shinji's fault, but not how you may think, Shinji acting the way he is fits his anime, and given the popularity it got his character archetype also became popular, but there is one problem, that doesn't work all the time, if you put Shinji passiveness without the trauma or psychological issues you get just a beta faggot

>>157262434
>Unless you're counting some of those as being 80s because their manga/LNs started earlier
Learn to read.
>What does air date of the anime have to do with anything?
Because it shows us you're a newfag based on what you picked. Awesome thread. Have fun faggots. Those are horrendous choices on both sides

>>157261602
The japanese concept of masculinity and macho have changed. From the 1980 to early 1990, the dream body for a male is a 6' tall super beef body. But with the popularity of jpop and K-pop groups rising the demand for effeminate and/or skinny male bodies became more and more popular. Probably one of the first popular mc I noticed who doesn't have a beef at body is Hiruma Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin.

>male protagonists
Disgusting

>>157262564
>Because it shows us you're a newfag based on what you picked
The only newfag here is you, because you were stupid enough to say the characters on the right were mostly 90s, which is blatantly wrong and shows how clueless you are, and now you're desperately trying to dig your way out of it. Pretty pathetic.

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>>157261850
Characters from before the 90s:
>Lupin(1967)
>Kenshiro(1983)
>Violence Jack(1973)
>Goku(1984)
>Momotaro(1985)
>Guts(1989)
See, that's more than half the fucking characters.

>>157262697
Half of them were in the 90s and another 2-3 where literally a year or two off. Keep trying newfag. Just stop making threads while you're at it

>>157262728
You quoted the wrong person.

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>>157261602
It's the same in the west, in the 80s Stallone and Arnold was the pinnacle masculinity, today it's Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran.

>>157262728
Meant for: >>157261678

>>157262781
That's a pretty bullshit argument, mainly as it's based on complete lies.

>>157262740
Only Domon Kasshu and Gene Starwind were conclusively conceived in the 90s. Nevertheless, thank you for once again confirming your stupidity and attempting to dig yourself out of a hole.

You probably thought Lupin was 90s.

>>157262839
The point isn't when the characters were conceived you fucking moron. The point is that you picked a whole bunch of normalfag popular anime from around the 90s because that's all you know.

>>157262728
>1983
>1984
>1985
>1989

So basically the 90s. Keep cherrypicking, morons.

>>157262874
>The point isn't when the characters were conceived you fucking moron
That's exactly what the point is though. It's hilarious you were stupid enough to miss it.

The OP is literally comparing characters created in a certain era to characters created in a later era. How you're dumb enough to miss that is reflective of how stupid current /a/ is.

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>>157262921
Ironically enough, you just admitted that you didn't know when these characters were conceived.

>>157262963
>That's exactly what the point is though.
No, but it's my point you idiot.

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>>157261602
Eh, there were a few pansies in the past too. The main difference is that they all manned up at one poiint.

>>157261602
Fuse the 2 sides. A bird has 2 wings

>>157263033
Modern Anime don't even have protagonists like Amuro anymore. At least he had some grit to his character.

>>157261602
Alright guys, stop bumping this disgusting bait thread.
The OP obviously only watch 50 anime.

>>157263127
I don't know if Gundam SEED and Code Geass are still considered modern, but Kira and Suzaku were both Amuro expies that turned out badly.

>>157263205
Kira was 15 years ago, and he was just a far worse written version of Amuro. Gundam Seed is just a ripoff the original Mobile Suit Gundam.

Suzaku is nothing fucking like Amuro.

>>157263132
You already got destroyed and you're still going? Sad.

>>157263337
Stop talking bad about his self inserts!

>>157263302
>Suzaku is nothing fucking like Amuro
It's more superficial than that. His piloting skills and the fact that he was the rival of a Char clone do make him an expy.

>>157263337
And the shitposter is a faggot from /pol/, not surprised though.

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>>157261602
Millennials.

>>157261602
The change of demographic.

>>157263489
Always cracks me up.

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>>157262293
IKOMAN

>>157262874
Not him, but consider killing yourself.
>These characters aren't 90's, but they count as 90's!
That's not how it fucking works.

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>>157261602
Lupin is the best one on this entire list.

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>>157263588
KISAMA

>>157261602
it proves that we are slowly all being turned into fuck-boys

>>157263661
I STILL have never seen an episode of Lupin the Third.
How badly am I missing out....

Are normalfags secretly gay?

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>>157262293
>actual samurai
>talks shit to sluts
>molests gaijin girls who get in his way
>shitpost on 2chan
I guess you just watch anime for otaku and want to talk shit.

>>157261737
>/co/
Enjoy your SJW infested bullshit.

How come male character design is so limited compared to female character design?

>>157263588
Looks like a fucking pussy compared to Kenshiro.

Why does Japan hate manliness now?

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I'll wait forever for an anime adaptation of Teppu.

>>157264823
Anyone looks like a pussy compared to Ken

>>157262215
Thanks senpai

>>157261678
>newfag
Hasn't since this image posted a million times already.

>>157265349
Too much soy sauce.

>>157266158
Fucking phytoestrogens. I blame tofu.

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Seriously though, why is anime so emasculated ?

>>157266414
Because the people who read manga are no longer those open-gakuran boys with the torn hats and blades of grass sticking out their mouths, instead they're aimed at the guys holed up in their rooms, pushing glasses up their greasy noses while shitposting on 2ch

>>157267012
Those were never the main audience though, do you think action movies are marketed towards war veterans?

The guys in the left were meant for boys to enjoy, the guys on the right were meant for teens and young adults.

Shounen is cancer and it died because nobody liked it

>hurr it's manly so it's good fiction

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>>157261602
Basically this.

If you don't watch anime for the sexy girls you need to go back to /v/. You should be asking what happened to floof

>>157261602
The right are all shows where fans only really care about the girls.

>>157267125
Comicbooks are still marketed for normal people, I don't see why it wouldn't be the case for anime as well.

>>157267381
Comic books and anime are both sick industries that can only function thanks to diehard fanatics and normalfag pandering.

>>157267300
>evaidiots think their anime was the sole reason everything changed

>>157267614
Sad but true. There are still some exceptions though, look at Miyazaki's films or "Your Name".

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>>157267381
>Comicbooks are still marketed for normal people
A western product with an entirely different mindset and values.
>I don't see why it wouldn't be the case for anime as well.
Because the country of origin, culture, and target audience (depending on what kind of manga publication you're talking about) are all different?

>>157267722
Normalfag pandering. That's the only "acceptable" anime to exist, the only one that you can't be teased and ridiculed for watching. No fan service, no fighting, just story.

>>157267661
got a better explanation?

>>157267907
I do: it's called the changing of times. It happens across all forms of media.

But by all means, keep believing your favorite anime ever was responsible for dropping a nuke. It's all mindless drones like you are capable of.

>>157267861
Does anyone have the other images from a message board in the 90s where some faggots were complaining how anime is all nothing but moeshit and isn't good anymore.

>>157267970
Times change, but it's specific works that crystallize those changes. Both things go hand in hand. Shows are a product of their time but they also give shape to their time.

>>157268207
The point is Evangelion wasn't nearly as influential as morons like you try to insinuate.

You know OP, if you're upset that anime isn't pandering to you why don't read manga. Manga has more content and I can assure you it will pander to your closet faggotry.

>>157268271
sure, keep up the personal attacks, they definitely make your point stronger.

>>157261835
>>157261835
You're waifu a shit.

>>157261602
They all lost their nose apparently

>>157261728
>Subaru
>manly
>literally cries cause a girl doesnt like him back

Good joke lad, keep it up.

>>157262564
>character created in 80s
>manga started in 80s
>anime started in 80s
>it's a 90s character just because I say so
Fuck off faggot.

>>157261602
You switched genres

>>157268315
What point? You're the moron who suggested Evangelion changed everything. I was simply highlighting your stupidity.

>>157268369
Nah, I'm rubber and you're glue

>>157263755
>secretly

>>157264628
How come female character design is so limited compared to male character design?

>>157264628
>he never watches fujoshit

>>157267970
So it was just a random change that happened universally throughout every corner of the anima industry in Japan at the same time? There was no reason for it?
It just happened to happen right after Evangelion aired and became the most popular and influential anime in history, but that's a coincidence and Eva had nothing to do with it.

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>>157263588
This, literally one of the only protagonists of recent anime who has brains, is a nice guy, yet also has massive fucking balls from the start and can get shit done

>>157263489
What anime are shown on there?

>>157268737
>has brains
>leaves the train to get fucked to save aome girl

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>>157268737
sad how the anime when retarded halfway, it was going so good

>>157268701
It's not a sudden change. You niptick a very few amount of shows from before EVA because you weren't around at the time to watch airing shows before then. No one outside of japan could have really. Fansubs and the internet weren't that big of a thing back then.

Anyone can make charts appeal to any side of the argument. See >>157263489

>>157268737
Yet still a worthless pussy compared to everyone on the left of OP's pic.

>>157261602
People that likes the left list are mostly gay you know.

>>157268910
Why are you projecting yourself onto people who disagree with you? Insecurity problems?

>>157268857
I haven't nitpicked anything, that was my first post in the thread.
Countless anime began showing influence of Eva after its airing and popularity supernova, including but not limited to the less masculine protagonists like Shinji. This began transforming the anime landscape, and more and more shows took up those trends, not influenced by Eva, but influenced shows that were themselves influenced by Eva.
Anime protagonists, particularly for shounen, stopped being so focused on huge muscular powerfantasies and alpha traits. It's ignorant to say this shift wasn't largely pushed along due to Eva.

>>157268971
Did I hit a nerve anon-kun?

>>157269166
No? You're the one who unintentionally projected.

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>>157261602
>original characters made from the creators imagination and a genuine need to tell a good story that they think would be interesting
>Self insert pandering to appeal to fat otaku who just want to feel like they could ever have a chance with a real life woman
Really gets the almonds activating

>evafag thinks the world revolves around their shit taste again
much shock

>>157263752
You're missing out big time anon. It's great franchise and the entire main cast is fun to watch.

>>157269319
They are almost as bad as fatefags.

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GAR belongs to women now.

>>157269345
At least Eva it's decent. Fate is shit for retards.

>>157261602
>kyousuke
>not based or at least better than every other male MC on that side

>>157269399
Both are shit.

>>157268801
It's getting a season 2 next Spring though

>>157263752
I watched the first one today and I liked it.
Lupin's a badass
It feels a lot like Rocky & Bullwinkle or some other american cartoons
>LUPAN THE THI-IRD
>LUPAN THE THI-IRD

>>157269220
Alright, let's not talk about it, but that will only make things worse anon.

>>157269434
This desu

>>157268793
>Leaves train to get fucked to save some girl

When did this happen?

>>157268793
I would destroy humanity for that girl bro, fight me.

Left is too manly, Right is too gay. I like me some in the middle like Luffy, Train Heartnet, Kenshin, Seiya

>>157269319
That's what happens if you suck Anno's dick too much.

>>157269434
Nah, Anno at least understands shot composition. Fate is unadulterated garbage.

>>157261602
why do the ones on the right look the same
also they all look like shinji
i like eva but fuck man it really influenced everything did it

>>157269481
In the quarry.

>>157268793
Not like they would be able to survive without Mumei kicking ass anyway.

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The actual answer is that the industry crashed, and they had to get by making shows that pander to the niche dedicated market who buy merch, when before they were making anime that appealed to a wider audience. That niche demographic didn't like shows with overly masucline MCs, probably because it reminded them of their own short comings. Most anime became female-focused, and the male MCs that were left became less threatening and more androgynous.

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>>157268369

>No no guys, our 1979 science fiction series has nothing to with star wars
>we've literally been living under a rock to ensure creative liberty

It always make me laugh how hard you faggots will go to deny that Eva was a goddamn fucking hit.

>>157261728
subaru is literally the first character I think of when thinking of the biggest bitch baby male MC in anime.

>>157261728
>Subaru, manly
If by manly you mean cringy; yeah, he is

>>157269702
Nobody denied it was a hit you moron.

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>>157262293
A DAZZLING SUN

IN THE FIRST RAYS OF DAWN'S LIGHT!!

>>157269702
Don't post using his picture again, people will begin associating your retardation with his genius

>>157269799
>3.76mb
Fuck off

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>>157269666

>whiny/faggot MCs didn't exist before eva
>only masculine protagonists existed before eva
>eva influenced everything and because of shinji the trend changed
https://youtu.be/Ztfa1Sem6yE?t=431
It's almost as if this entire board is filled with newfags who haven't actually watched a whole lot of anime. Go fuck yourself.

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>>157262293

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>>157269837
>poorfag crying at me about his 2TB external
I remember in the 90s when I used JPEG

>>157269538
You mean the scene where he saves Mumei in episode 6?

>>157269997
delet this, eva inspired everything in existence

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>>157268737
Too bad the anime is shit, the cabbagehead was pretty good.

Maybe the Jews are to blame?

>>157269997
Chart threads needs to be a thing here so these newfags would actually have a backlog for older shows.

>>157261602
Subaru actually was really cool and could hold a great conversation at first, then the show went horribly shonen as did he for absolutely no reason.

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>>157262293

>>157261602
Women, they became a driving economic force so the super manly designs were thrown out.

>>157270080
Episode 5 but yea.

>>157270155
No, they don't. Recommendation threads are just as bad as this thread.

>>157261602
>a bunch of faggots and a dumb whore
>based
Anime protagonists were never good

>>157270207
Nobody asked you to post tryhard garbage that wishes it was up there with the best old mecha.

>>157269997

And star wars has its influences and contenporaries, no one's saying Eva invented wimpy protags. Simply that shinji caused the trend to accelerate. That is all the cancerous evafags like myself have been saying in this thread.

>>157270223
>Implying the shows on the right are targeted to women

>>157270300
>tryhard garbage
Not to defend TTGL but what the everloving fuck are you complaining about now? Just call it shit instead of looking like a retard.

>>157270301
It didn't cause anything to accelerate. They existed in the 80s and 70s as well. Maybe if you actually watched anime apart from popular or well known series you wouldn't be such a huge faggot. Please fuck off to reddit, tumblr, or whatever the hell you came from.

>>157270300
It stopped being cool to hate TTGL like 2 years ago, man. You must have missed the memo.

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>>157270412
>they existed
>that means they were popular
>a fucking dollar shitting franchise in the middle of a recession where their entire economy tanked didn't have followers

Are you a fucking idiot?

>>157270605
Your image proves you aren't even an /a/non. Fuck off.

>>157268002

What's the anime in the lower left column?

>>157261602
It reflects the state of the Japanese males today.

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wtf happened?

>>157270768
This is really good bait.

>>157270681
No faggot, answer me.

How does your proposition even remotely make sense from an economic standpoint.

I know the Nips are fucking stupid, but they're not that fucking stupid.

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>>157270768
>jojo on the right
That's a nice touch.

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>>157270768
>Same character on both sides

>>157270768
In a fight I'd take left side of OPs over right side of yours any day. I'd also take left side of yours over rightside of OP's.

>>157270768
Ragemode Gon lol.

>>157269446
>feels like rocky and bullwinkle
You literally sold me on this show.

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>>157262921
>the 80s
>so the 90s

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>>157262921
Anon youre just making it worse

>>157262921
>80 to 89
>90s
>90 to 99
>00s
>00 to 09
>01s

>>157261602

Well OP, I think you are missing the broader cultural shifts and world-view changes that precede changes in narrative heroes.

Take a look, for example, at Batman 80s vs the Dark Knight trilogy. It's a complete dismissal of cartoonish elements, dismisses the original Batman's personality/motives, and rather than simple stories of "good vs evil" they are more explorations of what it means to oppose evil, with a level of critical analysis that simply would not happen in the 80s as simpler explanations were acceptable and complexity was frowned on.

Japanese cynicism and inability to believe in these types of heroes lead to a shift towards self-insert characters. Usually these were donkan protagonists etc, however, as the market became crowded, authors shifted away from them, and explored many other permutations/changes to the self-insert.

Missing from this picture are many other characters that are inventive over the 90s and also have more nuanced masculine virtues.

>>157271878
>Dark Knight shit
>complexity
HAHAHAHAHA

>>157272071
Well, he's comparing it to the 80s batman.

>>157272143
And he's a complete idiot, because Nolan's garbage was exactly as "complex"

>>157262781
>Challenge
>win
>take the m'lady
>trade it for its weight in haht chickz

>>157262781
I have mistaken Ed Sheeran for Mark Sheehan and was happy for America. Fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TBSMPrxTJw

>>157263033
>counting his kills
Holy shit

>>157268786
It's all from Devil is a Part timer IIRC. Normally wouldn't spoonfeed but I really liked it and you better like it too faggot

>>157269702
MSG borrows from Childhood's End than SW fella

Kamijou "steal yo girl" Touma shouldn't be there

>>157272742
Nah, I think Kamijou "force field guy" Touma should really be there.

>>157261602
Goku is literally a man child. He sure isn't based.

>>157263588
>>157268737
Face it, he ruined the later part of the show.
The good Ikoma I know died at the end of ep 2. The same face later is just your average boring shonen protag who never stop sperging about his "princess".

>>157272742
The T-man has a fucking mini-goddess and Misaki in his harem, he's also a freaking madman. He definitely doesn't belong with those faggots on the right.

>>157273352
>The T-man has a fucking mini-goddess and Misaki in his harem,
I like Touma, but that's Not An Argument.

>>157272953
>He sure isn't based.
Goku does literally whatever the fuck he wants, he's basically THE most based protagonist ever.

>>157261602
I actually never understood what people liked about Bobobo

why are dragon ball, lupin and berserk not on the right

>>157273389
Yes it is, they fell for his charisma rather than some '' he's so kind'' bullshit. He also fights magic gods he has no chance of beating, while still remaining somewhat realistically fearful.

>>157273352
Liking Touma and Raildex in general is a phenomenal pleb litmus test.

>>157262921
I could maybe (maybe) give you 1989, but 1983? That's pretty far away from the '90s, anon.

>>157273551
Explain, pleb.

>>157273551
Literally every series posted on OP (and many more posted on the thread) are not only huge gateway type anime/manga, but also regarded as pleb-drawers, so you just posted a complete non-argument.

>>157273687
>>157273793
>Angry raildexfags
Your LN and its MC are just as shit as the rest of the "highschool boy with a snowflake power in a magical school full of battles" setting LNs.

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>>157264239
>SJWs on /co/

>>157262921
1900s maybe.

>>157261602
another faggot that thinks that the past is objectively better than the present. I like how you only included protagonist from romance harems , in the present day, and not protagonists from action anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WJSK2jbuVI

If you want to compare main character from the past, to the present, make sure their characters from the same genre. kys, op

>>157274015
We know you don't read it. There's no need to lie.

>>157269727
You can't be this new, how have you not watched Eva?

>>157262293
Just pull Guts over from the 'Then' side, he's still around.

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>>157262293

>>157269507
>Train Heartnet
Best shounen MC ever made.
- Do you want to go and get revenge on that faggot for killing your love interest?
- Not really. Won't bring her back anyway.

>>157274632
"Literally cries about everything", the MC

>>157274478
>Y-You didn't read all 30+ volumes so you can't say anything!
Raildexfags are basically the lite version of Fatefags.

>>157274865
Fate is good though.

>>157274865
I too, love bullshitting about things I have no knowledge about.

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>>157262293

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>>157262293

>>157274893
This is funny.

>>157274922
This is just a sad raildexfag.

>>157274488
subaru is worse then shinji .
He just dies every time and can repeat shit and still balls like baby

>>157261602
You aren't even comparing the same genres

>>157261602
How many on the right are A1 Pictures?

>>157274449
Kirito and Touma are both from action series you stupid idiot. Kirito is considered one of the most iconic anime action heroes of the current era. Way to prove you know zilch about anime.

>>157274632
Whoa, a literal crybaby. That sure showed me.

>>157275902
only three

>>157275902
Only two.

Kyoani has four. They will always be the undisputed kings of generic pussy ass MCs.

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>>157267970
There are STILL autists that deny Eva's influence because they personally don't like it

>>157276541
There's denying it's influential and there's denying it single-handedly overhauled the anime landscape.

Morons like you seem to genuinely believe the latter. I honestly think you're self-inserting as Anno; you like the idea vicariously living through a guy who you believe changed everything within the industry.

>>157276435
How the fuck is Oreki a pussy MC? He's a lazy kid in a SoL with romance.

>>157274488
Shinji acts like a fucking human being, the modern copypaste piece of shit is just retarded and doesn't even make sense in how terrible they are to witness

>>157263752
GOAT franchise

>>157276646
>skinny, bored, generic as fuck looking faggot
>vs
>motherfuckin kenshiro
Yeah nah, you'll never win that one son.

I imagine that is all an attempt to make relatable MCs. Gotta get dem BD sales.

>>157261602
2003, the year Maburaho aired.

>>157261602
Japan's tastes change, anon. We can only hope that they change again.

>>157276676
>High school boy in a non action series
>Kenshiro
You're not even comparing apples to oranges, you're comparing apples to rocks.

>>157261602
What would happen to the male MC meta if Yoshitsugu Matsuoka were to die

>>157261602
No Kazuma. Fir shame, anon.

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When will Japan go back to the protagonists of old like pic related?

>>157270768
>Tactical genius on the left

Fun fact! There were shows deconstructing shit long before Eva came into being.

EVA ISN'T A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE NEWFUCKS

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>>157276970
Modern anime MC's suck!

>Lupin and Goku
>Not half the reason why anime protagonists are like they are now.
>Counting freaking Bobobo and SLAYERS
Did you actually watch any of the shows you're cherrypicking?
I know /a/ is mutating into /v/ closer and closer by the day, but this shit is retarded.

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>>157276970
That fucking payoff though

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>>157276970
I miss the days when every protagonist was Kenshiro.

>>157276970
I haven't watched/read this series, but wasn't this mc one of the biggest cucks in anime/manga? To the point that He was getting euthanized by the goddesses themselves, without them saying a thing.

>>157277038
What payoff? The faggot forgave her immediately

>>157277030
Every single character on the left can be described with one or more of the following terms: manly, based, strong, alpha.

Every single character on the right can be described with all four of the following terms: skinny, generic, uninteresting, bitchboy

It's not fucking rocket science you retard.

>>157268002
Sauce on the bonerdaddy?

>>157268002
The right would be so much better without all that CGshit.

>>157277072
>Kirito
>Bitchboy

I'm not gonna argue that SAO was a good series, but Kirito can't be described as a bitchboy.

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>>157261602

I've never seen a single one of these threads where every example in the OP was extremely cherry picked.

>>157277277

wasn't*

>>157261602
/a/ complaints department here, maybe you should stop watching shounen?

>>157261602
Three of the guys on the left are either currently airing or have done so recently.

>>157277277
You might just be onto something.

>>157277345
is space bros any good? is it like planetes?

>>157273389
Not him, but suffering through billions of worlds, getting Stockholm Syndrome, and still moving to become everyone's hero does.

>>157277072
>Bitchboy
>Based
Not really helping your argument there you manchild.

>>157277662
I like it. It's not similar to planetes though. It's more about the journey to becoming an astronaut rather than going into space.

>>157262113
>Hard on the outside
>Soft on the inside
>Murderises countless people standing in front of him
>Unrestrained rage

I mean, yeah? I like him. But yeah.

>>157277014
Ah you mean the one that turned into a little girl?

>>157261602
When did anime protagonists all become literally the same person?

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>>157267381
>Comicbooks are still marketed for normal people,
SJWs are not normal people

>>157266414
Manga is accepted in Japan, it is a medium for all ages to enjoy.

Anime is catered solely to Japanese teenagers and manchildren.

>>157267661
Well yeah, its existence pretty much runied the mecha genre by making it more about shitty character drama rather than mechs and politics.

>>157270768
>Josuke on the right
Fuck normalfags for thinking any of the old JoJo parts are just a recent thing

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>>157262293
Easy, more based than Goku at least.

>>157279319
>anime

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>>157276768
And rocks are better than apples.

>>157279271
Mecha has always been about shitty character drama, with the political stuff being the backdrop. Look at gundam for example.

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>>157261602
You forgot to add pic related on the left side, baiter-kun :^)

>>157270768
You better not be insulting my main man Wen-li

>>157277951
Speedreader confirmed.
Guts has so much subtle character development. He has some of the best writing a macho character can ever have.

>>157279023
The hulk became a stand?

>>157279023
They became into niggers and womens. FUCKING LIBERALS

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>>157262293
He still counts as one

>>157269666
Get out of here with your shit taste Satan.

>>157273291
Dida ruined the last half of the show. Literally every time he appeared he was a total shit, reversed ALL of Mumei's character development, and all he had to show for it was some bullshit contrived plot ending in fucking homosex with Ikoman

>a manchilds who uses cartoons to prove their masculinity
>average, mostly skinny fags talk about masculinity at all
>people actually respond to this thread at all
This is sad.

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>>157261602
We had entered an era where a pussy can be endearing.

>>157280314
>was raped by some negro as a child
>was ucked by his homo best bud
He's not a macho man, he's a raging edgy teen self-insert, a type who's been bullied in school and beaten by his parents so he develop rage issues to make himself feel less insecure.

It's more appeling to the mass audiance if the MC is just a faggot like the average Japanese Anime viewer

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>>157280614
You know how it's like.

>>157270605
It didn't accelerate anything, Eva itself was going with time and trends, it didn't change anything, other then increase popularity of anime among nromalfags, which make a trend for "2deep4u" stuff, it's influence is not about even wimpy schoolboys which as was mentioned, didn't started with eva.
You idiots want to act so smart ass as if you made a groundbreaking new discovery, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about, and you keep repeating same shit over the years, which only make it more irritating.

>>157280691
I guess you didn't read the manga at all. Or you managed to miss every single thing about Guts.

>>157261602
Where is fucking Kazuma?

>>157277072
Those aren't mutually exclusive
A good number of the left are boring and generic

>>157261602
when i see MC with hair cover his forehead, i assumed he is beta nu-faggot
p/s: subaru is shit

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>>157261975

>>157263874
What anime is this ?

>>157282166

This

>>157280343
Hulk is an Asian teenager.

>>157261602
moe shit

>>157261678
>bobobo

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>>157279023
And this is why Deadpool is the greatest. He's the only one to remain consistent as the whole "change the protagonists to progressive versions of themselves" have been done already.

>>157279023
Comics have been doing this type of shit FOREVER (Ben Reilly/Peter Parker, Scott Lang/Hank Pym, Bucky Rodgers/Steve Barnes, Connor Hawk/Oliver Queen, various Flashs, various Green Lanterns, Skrull shit, Death & Return of Superman, various super girls, alternate universes and "what ifs", etc.) the only difference is that they're now doing it with more minorities.

Fucking snowflakes get triggered by everything these days.

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>>157261602
>REEEEEEEEE why aren't protags all shounenshit

>>157284216
>implying most fags on the right aren't from shonen

>>157284400
Most fags on the right are from shows that were aimed at old dudes.

>>157284080
Well, no. Before those were creative liberties taken by writers to create versions of characters they felt better suited them.

These new ones are versions of characters created by writers to better pander to a viewer base that apparently doesn't have nearly the membership they thought it did.

>>157261602
No they were all self-insert masturbation materials. But then we recieved a gift from the heavens Onii-Sama. You can't get any more based than that you little bitch. Its impossible and no amount of logical fallacy will help your argument. Onii-sama is divine.

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>>157280310
>

>>157261602
Touma actually shouldn't be there honestly, the guy punches the shit out anyone he can.

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>>157261602
I did not have that one. Have this in exchange.

>>157270029
My internet is not the problem. 4chan is slower than a sedated slug

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>>157285779
>tfw No good tomboy like Noa in modern anime

>>157280514
>that feel when I get to see him in all his glory this fall

>>157285779
Wow. When was that pcture from? 2007?

>>157286090
Noa is trash.

>>157261602
Womens actually buy things i guess...

>>157281992
>A good number of the left are boring and generic
No they aren't, idiot.

>>157287531
You're trash.

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>>157284107
Lurk more.

>>157277951
>>157280691
I don't even like Berserk and I can tell you're a moron.

>>157287805
You're an idiot so that doesn't say much.

Japan are pussies now

>>157277030
But thing is that nobody can be based as Lupin

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>>157290702
Kiritsugu

>>157284038
Deadpool had hes dark times too

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>best male MC of last season was from a family friendly monster girl show

>>157287531
You better take that back right fucking now

>>157285779
>characters on the left have actual personality
>characters on the right are soulless fapbait

>>157262215
the slayers anime is from 1995
DBZ started technically in april '89 but that picture is not from the first 32 episodes.
The berserk manga also started in late '89 (august) and that panel is clearly not from the first volumes.

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>>157284080
Marvel has openly admitted that their lowering sales is due in part to their pandering to "progressives"

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>>157261602

>>157276344
SAO is literally a self insert 2edgy4me marry sue teenager show. Obviously it's hot with the kids.

>>157291246
>amuro
half of the series was bright nagging him to stop being a little bitch and get in the gundam.

>>157267300
Guy Shishioh came after Shinji, though.

>>157291441
Gundam: A series about a boy becoming a man.
NGE: 20+ years later Shinji is still exactly the same.

What the fuck? How can Eva fans defend this?

>>157291141
The chart isn't comparing anime you stupid idiot, it's comparing characters.

Lina was conceived in 1989, Goku in 1984. Use your brain retard.

>>157291246
>it's an evaidiot trying to parade evangelion as a revolutionary bombshell that changed everything episode
You're only about the 5th moron to suggest that in this thread.

>>157279023
That image is so awfully cherrypicked it's comical.

Just off the top of my head

>Superbro in the upper left doesn't even exist anymore, he died and the original Superman's been calling the shots since
>Mecha-Bats was just Jim Gordon while Bruce Wayne was gone, and Bruce Wayne is already back
>Cap's a Nazi, but he still exists
>No one gives a fuck about Miles in Marvel other than Bendis
>Hal Jordan still exists and is still the most relevant Green Lantern
>Barry and Wally both still exist, Barry even helped Bruce Wayne in the most recent Batman comics
>Black Fury is Nick Fury's illegitimate son, Senior's still around and may be coming off the moon soon
>Alan Scott's been gay for decades
>No one's ever given a shit about Powergirl
>Ironheart isn't even the current Iron Man, Doctor Doom is
>Logan still exists


The list just goes on and on. That picture is so dated and facetious it's comical. It must be bait.

>>157291701
Name one bad anime to come out before Evangelion. You can't do it because it invented shit anime.

>>157282166
>>157275857
>>157269727
Not knowing how based Subaru actually is.

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>>157261602

In the past the hero embodied the ideal man. So we got heroes who possessed things like courage, bravado, masculinity etc. With the pussification of men, however, authors try to appeal to the crowd by making their MCs weak beta faggots.

>>157291197
Obviously. Even though DC is more popular than Marvel, they don't even dare let go of their main heroes. Heck, they even made them 10 years younger

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Kirito
>Harem
>Has a woman she loves and a child
>superpowers that he earned by training
>takes responsibility and helps his friends and others
>Has flaws but tries to fix em
>Tries to live up to expectations , doesnt quit or get deus ex machinima

Kirito IS based as fuck, you mongs. Only argument against that is the art style.

Try watching SaO isntead of trashing it

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>>157285779
I can't stand Lin Minmay. It's probably was an intended effect, though.

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>>157261602
You forgot one.

>>157274695
>>157276367
Since when crying has become unmanly?

>>157292120
Found the Zentradi spy.

>>157292267
"Literally" has changed meanings in modern speech. It now means something more akin to "I have to use a potato as a stopgap to keep my permanently gaped anus from leaking, also ignore anything I say."