Hey /a/ Started reading Medaka Box cause I think I saw one of

It's fighting until the end but keep reading, Minus arc is worth it. I think it starts around chapter 60 or so, you can drop it if you don't like Kumagawa.

>>157254572
>high school battle manga

yeah no

>>157254752
I stopped when her older brother was introduced.
Talking about how she was twice as strong in middle school, and how she used to heal injuries within 30minutes.
It was just me realizing the manga was going from her being near-perfect girl to some kinda mutant with heal factor.
Also I kept wondering why everyone was just fine with all the things going on. Little girls with giant wreckingballs and school police who are killing people with bouncy balls and kids with fucking swords in a school? It just felt like it had changed writers compared to the story about "who cut up the running shoes".

It's all absolute bullshit from there on out.

Everyone will be getting superpowers for no reason while the narrative badly claims it's based on some form of human feat.

And instead of Medaka being a mary sue in a comedy/relaxed setting, we get her being mary sue in dramatic settings. So she becomes the absolute worst.

On the other hand that guy with the screws seems somewhat fun(Not that I'd know after dropping it after reading all the fights with the ones in OPs image). So read for him I guess if you really feel like it.

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>>157254752

I think this is a very good suggestion.

Medaka becomes absolutely insufferable. Kumagawa easily carries whatever arc centers around him. If you don't like him, you might as well drop it because everything else is a lot of the same shit.

I ended up liking Zenkichi a lot as well and his progression through the series, so even though a lot of it was annoying, I enjoyed it for that at least.

>mfw this fucking scene

Terrible feels.

>>157255322
Dang I preferred her more in the relaxed setting.
I guess I'll stop now before I just end up reading 80issues I don't enjoy. But I'll keep it in mind if I ever get into a battle school manga mood.

Nisio Isin is a hack.

>>157255889
Why would you listen to the guy who dropped it right after the fighting shounen arc and right before the best arc?

>>157256254
Because he sounded like someone who also preferred when it was comedy/relaxed.

And really I struggled to get through the story of the 10 year old leader of the school police who used the rules as an excuse to possibly kill teenagers with super strength and custom made bouncy balls while being so one-dimensionally evil it made Gargamel from the Smurfs seem a deep character.
And I'm sure further arcs are better than that part, but they sound like they'll stay similar to that part.

I could only read like 20 chapters of MB. I don't get how it has so much praise on here. I couldn't stand the two leads.

It's good in the first few arcs where they're problem solvers, then the first two fighting arcs (morals committee and the + group) are dogshit for being not just a strange change of genre but also really poorly executed, then the - arc starts a little dumb and gets really fucking good, then it keeps ramping up until around the last one or two arcs where it plummets again. All in all I think it's a pretty good series but what it starts as and what it becomes are so drastically different that it's really hard to recommend it to anyone.

>>157258177
I like the leads and pretty much all the characters so far (minus 10 year old "oh I'm so evil" kid from the 13)
But I just don't like that it's gonna be just super-kids fighting and prolly killing each other from here on.

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>>157258022
>they'll stay similar to that part
They won't. But they won't go back to being like the first arc either.
>>157258177
That's because it's praised for the minus/election arc which is after the arc OP posted. Almost no one cared about the manga before Kumagawa and Ajimu were introduced.

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>>157254572
here, for everyone who quit after 20 capter, medaka box pre chapter 55 is completely different from post 55

So is there a particular reason WHY the story makes this change in genre?
Like a change in writers, or a writer given free reign of the kinda story he WANTED to do? Or did someone tell him "hey we got greenlit, our manga is now 100+ issues long" and he went "I can't possibly think of 100+ issues worth of problem solving shenanigans, we're gonna have to come up with a new direction for this manga."

>>157258414
Okay the anime is more tolerable?
I might look into it.

>>157258545
Because Nisio is an incorrigible metafag who'd rather play around with shounen cliches than writing a coherent story. Not that I'm complaining.

>>157258545
Probably either low ratings or Nisio just getting bored, maybe both. Post-Suggestion Box it certainly feels more like his other works so I don't think it was something he was against doing.

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>>157258545
Its a common trend among shounen manga to start out as comedy because its easier to survive. you can also transition over to battle manga, and if it works you stick with it, if not you go back to being comedy.
See reborn which started as comedy and ended up as battle. or samon the summoner that tried, failed, and went straight to comedy

>>157258709
basically no matter how you approach it, it's sket dance lite purposeless school club manga), then a battle manga, then kumagawa comes in and it becomes a bunch of really really bad jokes for people that have shitty senses of humor like us

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>>157258815
Except kumagawa doesnt really tell jokes as opposed to being a breath of fresh air as a villain, essentially rewriting all rules as to how to handle a villain in a battle manga.
reason he gets praised its that among all characters in medaka box hes relateable to the point people identify with him, but noone could ever predict what the fuck he was gonna do next

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I didn't get how All Fiction worked

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>>157258940
you delete something, and it will be as if it has never existed in this world from that point on. its not that hard anon

>>157259005
Oh right. Thanks m8

I just remember Medaka's Box getting really convoluted near the end

>>157254572

>Isekai
>MC starts with a power level of 8,000,000+ while the strongest being in the world caps at 1000

I fucking hate overpowered MC from the get go.

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>>157259143
it was a wild ride, but one im glad i took

the threads on /a/ were amazing

>>157259005
So the story gets to reality distortion levels?
I was finding it stupid at less than 10 year old girls swinging around 500lbs worth or metal ball and chains

And I'm fine with a story being crazy, but being setup for it is needed.
I mean going from Class President wanting to help Everyone to Mysterious Class of naturally gifted kids being psycho killers, to people having reality distortion powers? That's sounds like BS even among the BS already like a terrible game of Jenga getting top-heavy.

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>>157259471
it is really really hard to explain. but yes, it does get crazier, so if you dont like crazyness then you probably wont enjoy it. but i do urge you to go past chapter 55 as thats where the good kind of crazy really begins

>>157259688
Another potential deal-breaker I need to know is how insignificant do the secondary characters from the beginning arc become?
I can already feel the swimming treasurer becoming pointless, and pretty much all the ones from the Kendo club or the Judo club being pointless among the guys who have the power of influence or whatever super-screw does.

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>>157259882
Nisio doesnt give a fuck about them. they will dissapear, then be relevant later, then dissapear, then be relevant. it goes up and down as the plot weaves them in and out

>>157260001
Was worried as such considering how many there were.

So with no time for funny does it also mean no time for romance?
I liked how the two main characters weren't an item but seemed easily jealous if anyone else showed interest.

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>>157260108
No need to worry about that.

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>>157258414

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>>157254572
It doesn't get good till best boy comes in

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>>157261529
God tier fetishes, God tier antagonist

I miss Kumagawa

>>157255157
I hate to burst your bubble but Medaka was never just a perfect girl. She was always described as being above others.

>>157258022
Theres a lot of depth to that character you know. He's not just some one dimensional evil guy. He actually has a very strict sense of justice and he was in charge of a fairly heavy task too. You learn more about him later. He certainly isn't just some evil guy.

>>157259882
Swimming girl becomes quite relevant later on and the head judo girl beats the unholy shit out of a super powered abnormal so she certainly gets plenty of time to shine too. They also all get epilogues at the end.

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Medaka Box is easily one of my favorite manga, especially to read with /a/ every week. I really enjoyed how it skyrockets after chapter 55.

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>>157255157
A pretty major part of Medaka box is that fact that Medaka is a monster. She is so far above everyone else that she is unable to ever relate to them. It's a major reoccurring plot point that is important to her character. She was never meant to just be a near perfect girl.

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I almost wished we got a little more after Abnormal apart from the Kumagawa OVA, but it is what it is.

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>>157259471
they're just kids, let them play pretend

>>157258545
The key to reading Medaka Box is to go in understanding that the whole thing is a straight-faced parody of Shonen manga. The series revolves around a protagonist so overpowered that she can't relate to other people, but still makes everyone love her by giving shallow friendship speeches. It gets way more blatant about the meta shit later.

The jarring, forced switch from a comedy manga to a battle manga was probably intentional.

>>157263325
That does kinda make sense.

I just thought it was a good hook for the MarySue main protagonist trying stay humble always wanting to feel like an average joe with her success story being achievable for all.

why are kumagawafags so cancerous? holy shit

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>>157263844
but he's the best

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>>157261360
The other girls can't even compete.

>>157263844
>stop liking what I don't like

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>>157263844
fuckin watch yourself around these parts

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>>157264058
I'm still a bit amazed that they actually typeset all these pages.

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I wish I could have been here to read Kumagawa Box with /a/

I don't get it. How did Kumagawa win against Medaka-chan?

>>157258545

There is no way Nisio didnt plan for most of the shit from the beggining, the guy is a meta fag.

>>157264510
If so I hope he filled in the reasons why things made little sense.
Like I read up to where the main girl's Brother is introduced. And in his description it says he is a former member of the 13.
Which raised the question "why did her sister not know about the 13 if her own brother was in it? How long had this convoluted organization been around if they were just now surfacing and meeting this girl who's they should have scouted a decade ago?"

>>157264903
Because Medaka strongly dislikes her brother due to the fact he wants to bang her and is obsessed weirdo. She hardly ever sees him and keeps her distance from him.

>>157264974
Fair nuff

>>157254572
Pink haired girl was the best, series didn't even know what it wanted to be until like 100 chapters in, whenever it went full meta.

>>157265412
So it just has a nice slow burn of 2/3 of the issues before it really picks up?

That's like the worst compliment to get.

>>157254572
It's a trash man tbhq. It's fun for the best boy scenes though.

>>157255502
I really liked that arc simply because you realize that zenkichi really is just an average person among a bunch of freaks

>>157264903
>why did her sister not know about the 13 if her own brother was in it?
They don't talk much, he's basically a highschool dropout.

> How long had this convoluted organization been around if they were just now surfacing and meeting this girl who's they should have scouted a decade ago?

She was scouted as soon as she entered, and the whole organization is still just high school teachers and students working together. The dramatic tone makes it sound otherwise, but the first 4 arcs are just high school students fucking around.

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Good Loser Kumagawa translations fucking when?

>>157266243
The first arc considers "fucking around" to be students packing sword claws and murdering kids with specially made bouncy balls for playing band music too loud, and trying to blow up the ever popular student counsel.
I can only imagine what stupid shit that should be shut down instantly but is allowed cause why-not happens further.

>>157254572
Medaka Box is an example of a series saving itself from being axed by departing far from its premise to become a battle shounen.

With regard to your question, no it did not. It stayed as a battle-centric manga since. And you can tell the creators were not happy about it themselves. Nisio continued to drop thinly veiled satire criticising the manga industry. The resentment was palpable

>>157266876
To be fair it's the mix of absurdity and realism that makes it entertaining for me to read.

Some characters carry guns, yet nobody's actually ready to kill someone else, fights are often portrayed as brutal yet the stakes are often quite low. The characters' abilities are exagerated, and made to seem way more badass than they should be. To be fair you just get the feeling it's a bunch of high school kids role playing.

There are exceptions ofc, namely Kumagawa and Ajimu.

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>>157267231
So later it has parts that becomes the /a/ equivalent of when Indy writers shit all over cape comics cause of hate for capecomics having all the spotlight while a thousand Indy comics are left to die

If so I'd be game.
At the very least I could push through shitty parts on the impression it was intentionally made to be shit for satire reasons.