Hunter x Hunter

>>157251421
Hisoka already did die

Well, Hisoka died first.

>>157251457
>>157251480
Oh.

I want Hisoka to slowly lose all body parts so he slowly becomes gumman

>>157251421
The mangaka.

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>>157251421
>Who will die first the gothic priest or the clown?
Hisoka already died, doubt Togashi would bring him back to life and then kill him again at least not without him doing more.

question, I don't normally buy volumes but i'm fond of the slight improvement of the chapters in volume 33 would you buy it or do you think some body will just scan it.
http://imgur.com/gallery/CfSfw

>>157251833
>http://imgur.com/gallery/CfSfw
If you want to support the mangaka in his quest to play more dragonquest , do it

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Killua is cute!

>>157251833
Watch Togashi make him likable.

It's gonna happen

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>>157252394
>Watch Togashi make him likable.
well I don't hate him yet and he killed to women for practically no reason.
any idea what pic-related meant

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>>157252582
looks like a woman is getting a tattoo of a spider if you ask me.

You guys realise the manga is finished, right? Togashi quit.

>>157251833
The head is going to be Kurapika's friend isn't it? I can FEEL it.

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>>157252727
initially I though it might of had something to do with the troupe maybe foreshadowing something but peculiar to me that it was spider probably just looking in to it too much.
Does he have anymore fanart I like to see him wearing what he is in pic-related.
>>157253053
maybe, don't know why though he's already gonna be pissed when he sees the collection

>>157251503
MY

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>>157252727
Looks like his next art piece, more accurately

>>157253104
If it was Pairo's head it would be classic escalation. Kurapika himself said he hasn't had to kill anyone to get the eyes and all his anger is focused at the spiders anyway. Since these are apparently the last of them it'd only be fitting for there to be a nasty surprise there too. And since it's in the center of the eyes it seemingly is related and has black hair.

Kurapika kills a prince and starts an international incident because he loses control.

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>>157253911
Togashi's doing a good job at building up his creepiness.

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Why is Pitou so cute?

>>157251457
>>157251480

Only because Chrollo literally cheated. He would have no chance if Shartnark and Kortopi didn't give him his powers.

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>>157255854
>using your ability is cheating

>>157255854
cheat or not he still killed Hisoka so your post to those anons is irrelevant.

>>157255854
Top tier b8

Hisoka is going to kill all the spiders and Chrollo when he can no longer use prep time

>>157252394
That sort of is the pattern between arcs for Hisoka

Creep in Hunter's Exam to Heaven arena

Ally for Yorkshin

Even affable in Greed Island

Goes ahead and kills fan favorites in Post Chimera Ant and Dark Continent

Chrollo >>>>>>>>>>>> hisofag

:^)

>>157255854
Because Chrollo wanted 100% sure he survived.

He probably used ghost writer.

if meruem was weak to poison why didn't netero ask a poison cloud nen user to help him

>>157256783
>doesn't understand how Nen works

>>157251833
>>157251833
>that pic
Kurapika will go full nuclear. Can't wait to see it.

>>157256829
same type as hisoka and killua, changes his aura to have the propriety of poisonous gas

there fucker, tell me why it wouldn't work

>>157256925
Because no human's Nen could create poisonous gas strong enough that could harm Meruem's massive Nen shield.

>>157256987
>my nen is bigger than yours!

and I don't understand how nen works?

>>157257046
Yes, you clearly don't?

>>157257171
so explain to me how it does

meruem wouldn't go through knov's portal either? because his nen is this much bigger?

>>157257259
Yes, Knov's portal couldn't possibly hold such massive Nen. Same reason why they didn't just use SILENT SCREAMER to cut his head off.

Every attack has to pass the opponent's Nen defense checks if they're not in a state of Zetsu.

>>157257353
then how did knuckle put hakoware in yupi? how did killua hit him with lightning?

are you saying that hisoka can't stick his nen in an opponent with "nen bigger than his"?

>>157257421
>then how did knuckle put hakoware in yupi? how did killua hit him with lightning?

Because putting Hakoware on someone is completely harmless by itself so that restriction raises it's Nen "attack" value massively.

Killua can hit Youpi with his lightning all he wants but only in his empowered state he could stun him a little.

>>157257550
hisoka's is also harmless on "itself", as for hakoware, the same can be said for genthru's bombs
>that restriction raises it's Nen "attack" value massively
source?

>>157252381
>implying he missed my heart

>>157257644
Are you serious? Look up Nen restrictions. Kurapika restricting his Chen Gel to work only on Phantom Troupe etc. Without that restriction (only works on them and if I use it on someone else I die) his beginner Nen would never be strong enough to contain them.

togoshi you can die and retired once you finish kurapika story, kurakipa deserves his revenge.

kill them all

>>157258411
Kurapika probably becomes thing he wanted to kill.

I could see him becoming a bad guy after finishing his quest.

>>157255854
>Only because Chrollo literally cheated
How do you cheat in a fight to the death with no rules?

>>157251833
I always knew the chapter were half assed but damn, they look even worse now. That fucking empty panel in the last image.

>>157251833
Are the corpses Kurta too?

>>157258765
They look non human.

>>157258765
>Are the corpses Kurta too?
most likely yes

The bookmark made the differen from Chrollo > Hisoka , to Chrollo >>> Hisoka.

Bandit's secret used to be kinda balanced but now it's pretty broken.

I can not see Chrollo lose a fight unless he's facing an actual Netero+ tier nen user.

>>157254012
Kura should have been a girl.

Also, fuck you Togashi, if you're making fabulous things finish them.

Chrollo and Leorio were each other's friends, right?

>>157259039
>Kura should have been a girl.
Nah.

>>157259184
Stop weed now

>>157257353
>Same reason why they didn't just use SILENT SCREAMER to cut his head off.
What? Pretty sure the consensus has been that Togashi put Knov on a bus because Silent Screamer ignores your defense and Meloreon + Knov could have one shot the king. But we'll never know because he got a bad case of PTSD and sat out the last part of the arc.

Based on appearances Silent Screamer just connects the space between Knov's hands to his pocket dimension. All he's doing is forcibly sending anything between his hands to that space. How does aura allow someone to block that?

>Every attack has to pass the opponent's Nen defense checks if they're not in a state of Zetsu.
Not always the case but that is the general rule. Some abilities have been shown to circumvent Nen Defense. Melody's ability to soothe people for one. Hakoware for another.

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>>157259184
Totally

>>157255854
>H-H-H-HE CHEATED IT'S NOT FAIR

Why hisocucks fans can't deal with defeat?

>>157259039
>Kura should have been a girl.
If Kurapika were a girl I would die from complete semen depletion after masturbating to her non stop for 10 days.

>>157259325
>Pretty sure the consensus has been that Togashi put Knov on a bus because Silent Screamer ignores your defense and Meloreon + Knov could have one shot the king.
The consensus among speedreaders, perhaps.

There's no Nen ability that "just works". It's just as retarded as thinking that Meleoron + that slut who can control males with kisses could possibly control Meruem. Non damaging Nen Hatsu simply has bigger Nen defense penetration, that's all. She probably couldn't even kiss control Phantom Troupe members, in example.

>>157259345
Except he could just not have recognized him for any number of reasons.

>>157259435
You can stop with the fanfiction

>>157259325
>Togashi put Knov on a bus because Silent Screamer ignores your defense and Meloreon + Knov could have one shot the king
You do realize he was "put on a bus" in the same chapter where this ability was introduced, right?

The fight between Hisoka and Chrollo.

Chrollo
>Was nice enough to give Hisoka the fight he wanted
>Explained his new abillities to Hisoka
>Runs around the arena while Hisoka fights fodder
>Changes outfit twice (Stylish!)
>Doing sick JoJo poses

Hisoka
>Cocky the whole time
>Ran around like a idiot
>Got utterly rekt
>Agreed to deathmatch but pussies out at the end.

I mean , I like Hisoka , but this was sad

>>157258719
That chapter was when Togashi was suffering from back pain. You can tell when you compare it to the previous chapters.

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>>157259497
>they both mentioned having a special friend
>they both grew up poor
>they both seem to be from the same region based on their name structure, skin, hair (that culture being the hxh version of italian)

Doesn't seem like fanfiction to me.

>>157259435
Just when I thought shitposters couldn't get any worse.

Everything about Chrollo is bad, including poeple who like Chrollo

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>>157259731
Fuck off, Kurapika.

>>157259428
>There's no Nen ability that "just works"
I'm not saying that Knov's ability "just works" I'm saying how does aura strength circumvent a side-effect of matter being transported to a pocket dimension?

>Manipulators
As far as we know, if a manipulator can fulfill their requirements they take control of their target there is no way to circumvent this other than not getting controlled in the first place. So yes, as far as what the series shows us, that one female manipulator could have actually controlled Mereum although she would get immediately rekt just trying to get close to him or immediately afterwards by any of the ants/royal guard.

>>157259516
And? Even without Silent Scream it's possible they could have just had Knov + Chameleon draw an entry point underneath Mereum and then drop him into a room and leave him to rot for a couple years. Nobody has been shown to be able to break out of a nen dimension, even Morel comments on the fact that once your inside one you have to wait for the creator to fullfill their conditions.

>>157259586
Yeah, it really is

>>157259578
>It's a back pain episode
Damn, hate reruns

>>157259968
You realize ,if possible, Knov will never be able to use that room ever right?

The millisecond the door opens, Meruem chews off his goddamn head.

And Meruem is a Specialist that hasn't developed a hatsu by that point. Making an ability to allow him to escape is child's play.

>>157259578
>>157260040
>It's a Japanese cold wrist injury episode
Those backgrounds are bleach tier. That's like saying Kubo was the unhealthiest fucker alive in Japan

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Is there an OST of the piano during Chrollo's scene with Neon? Haven't been able to find anything

>>157259968
>I'm not saying that Knov's ability "just works" I'm saying how does aura strength circumvent a side-effect of matter being transported to a pocket dimension?
It's not a physical side effect, he's not creating real physical worm holes or something, it's still just a Nen ability. Being a different Nen category ability doesn't mean you can have an autowin button if you go through your requirements. You still need to train and increase your Nen to make those abilities effective. If Zushi were a Conjurer and he developed the same Hatsu as Knov, he wouldn't be able to teleport any human inside his tiny room because his Nen is too weak to transport them / to control the process.

>>157260191
Meruem's ability was gaining the life energy of whoever he ate, Pitou confirmed it.

Can we finally agree that Chrollo is literally /ourlad/?

>>157260207
I've seen the before and after pages with the backgrounds included.

You can tell something was up

>>157260406
Fuck Quwrof and fuck his merry band of sociopaths.

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>>157260406
Yes. He is cool.

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>>157260454
>he doesn't like Chrollo and his mad gang
Shit taste senpai.

>>157260565
hisoka should really not have been in that image since he was never a real member.

>>157260379
I wouldn't call that a hatsu.

It's like Ging being able to replicate strike type attacks after being hit with it once. It's a natural ability.

>>157260191
>You realize ,if possible, Knov will never be able to use that room ever right?
Ok? They contain the threat and do their job. What is the problem here?

>that hasn't developed a hatsu by that point.
I've always assumed that his hatsu has always been the ability to add the aura of anything he consumes to his own but that's not clear.

> Making an ability to allow him to escape is child's play.
Maybe. But it's unlikely given that unlike Morel's smoke prison which was also indestructible to Pouf but contained holes for him to slip out of, Knov's mansion exists in a whole other plane of reality. Even if Mereum could break out, could he also bridge the dimensional gap?

>>157260282
>It's not a physical side effect
Scream is the following ability. Knov creates a portal that is linked in the space between his hands. He can also close the portal by closing his hands.

Anything between his hands is automatically sent to the other dimension, but all this is a side effect of the portal closing.

>If Zushi were a Conjurer and he developed the same Hatsu as Knov, he wouldn't be able to teleport any human inside his tiny room because his Nen is too weak to transport them / to control the process.
We don't know that. There is in fact another porter on the DC trip that states that they can't teleport like Knov or transport as large a number of people but we're uncertain if that's because they are weaker, or because their ability just isn't as well crafted as Knov's Mansion.

If you were talking about an enhancement ability than yes; I would agree that the strength of the users aura determines the strength of the output. Big Bang Punch > Cyclone Ripper > Jan-ken-po based purely on the aura of the creator of each technique

>>157260608
Ging's ability to replicate comes from knowledge of how aura works. Being able to actually raise your aura capacity just by eating somthing reeks of nen Hatsu. Remember Gon is able to raise his maximum aura but only during Jan-Ken-Po

>>157260601
But he's Judas Iscariot.

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>>157260724
But Judas was really a disciple, hence he betrayed jesus

Hisoka betrayed no one since he was pretending from the beginning

>>157260769
I know, but it still werks.

>>157260714
>We don't know that.
Yes we do. Kurapika's chains would not be able to hold anyone in Phantom Troupe if it wasn't for the restriction ramping up his Nen ability massively.

Same reason why Genthru's bombs are incredibly deadly when he uses the extremely contrived way to activate them compared to his little flower.

>>157260408
>>157259578
>>157258719
>You can tell something was up
it doesn't really seem that big of a the deal the lack of shading and backgrounds are the only problems with the weekly magazine release, there aren't any notable signs to me that he was in pain while drawing them.
You can guess that because of the lack of detail he may have wanted to refrain from stressing his wrist, but to me he was either pressed for time, wanted to just get the chapters out there, or he was simply lazy and figured he could fix them later in the volume releases.
>pressed for time
thinking about it this is probably the least likely considering he has a seemingly free schedule right? its probably a mixture of the later two, i'm kinda forgetting my point with all this but the initial pre-volume releases are fine.

>>157260892
>Yes we do. Kurapika's chains would not be able to hold anyone in Phantom Troupe if it wasn't for the restriction ramping up his Nen ability massively.
What does the strength of a nen conjured chain have to do with teleporting people?

Explain to me why Pouf couldn't just brute force his way out of Morel's smoke? We know for a fact that Morel was weakened and the royal guard were stronger than everyone present. Yet Pouf had to sneak his way out instead of just tearing a hole through it.

It's clear that while the "you can't make things better than god" rule is in effect for Kurapika's chains, we just don't know how the amount of aura someone can produce relates to teleportation. Goreinu was able to teleport Razer and for a fact, Razor was stronger than Goreinu even with his 14 devils active.

>>157261089
>What does the strength of a nen conjured chain have to do with teleporting people?
Because he's not teleporting people via some physical universal mechanic. It's just Nen. If Conjurer and Manipulator abilities were this strong then no one would bother raising any other stat.

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Remember that time Chrollo absolutely styled on Hisoka?

>>157260714
That literally makes his ability less effective. What happens if Knov loses consciousness or dies? As seen with Cheetu's ability, Shoot's Hotel Raffesia, and Morel's smoke, the objects entrapped return to back to reality. It's literally expecting Knov to spend his entire life making sure Meruem doesn't escape and make sure that his ability stays on. That's impossible. Of course this is all assuming his ability can hold him.

And Meruem is practically a nen sponge with dangerously high levels of comprehension. Performing a similar feat should be well within his capacity

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>>157261375
If by "styled" you mean "cheated," then yes.

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>>157261457
>cheating
>in a fight with no rules
>where he literally explained all his abilities even though he didn't have to
It can't be good for your health to be this mad after an entire year

>>157261457
>>157259346

>>157254460
I like to believe Pitou had a big ol' girldick and fucked the shit out of the palace dancers before they were turned into human meatballs. Maybe gave false hope of survival for whoever could give the best head.

>>157255975
>Using the audience isn't cheating

Fuck off. In a real fight they wouldn't have been there.

>>157261457
Remember the time Hisoka got so fucking buttblasted he lost that he started killing Chrollo's weaker friends one by one while they were alone?

>>157261742
>In a real fight they wouldn't have been there.
And Chrollo would just use a different strategy also
>Real fight
>A Death match is not considered a real fight
The clown lost fair and square deal with it

>>157261793
Oh you mean the sociopathic, genocidal maniacs that the V5, hunters association, and the mafia are all too scared and weak to kill?

>>157261697
Don't.

You'll get me worked up thinking about it.

I don't get why Hisokafags are still so salty.

>>157261793
Yeah that was immature.

>>157261170
>It's just Nen
Than explain why we have multiple instances of someone transporting or restraining an opponent with a greater aura against their will? And not because they forced their opponent into Zetsu.

>If Conjurer and Manipulator abilities were this strong then no one would bother raising any other stat.
They are strong but they come with drawbacks too. Who cares if they can take control of your body by pricking you with a needle if you're an emitter and just shoot them at range? HxH is built on the idea that matchups aren't based on nen categories.

>>>157261402
>Cheetu's ability
It was timed out, he didn't lose consciousness or die

>Shoot's Hotel Raffesia
Not sure if Youpi ever got that part back or not. I remember seeing a shadow of the missing portion even during his fight with Knuckles and by that time Shoot would have been under medical attention. I can believe it but I'll need to re-read some.

>and Morel's smoke
Which restrained multiple opponenents and was only beaten when he willingly released it

So even allowing Shoot, you have 2/3 released their abilities of their own cognition.

>Of course this is all assuming his ability can hold him.
Which the series repeatedly shows that it's impossible to do once your opponent establishes a nen space. Just give me a counter example from the series and you can have this, otherwise its just speculation that anyone could break out.

>>157261742
>In a real fight they wouldn't have been there
Which is why he specifically chose to have their "real fight" in a crowded location. He set the stage and Hisoka obliged.

>>157261845
None of those facts have anything to do with Hisoka's motivation and you know it.

>>157259346
LOL

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>>157261899
You're right, he's killing them as payback for cheating, so Chrollo can't cheat in his next fight. But you can't claim that killing the most dangerous criminals in the world is somehow a cowardly thing to do, regardless of the motivation.

>>157261971
Except Hisoka doesn't think that cheating was involved at all, it's just your ridiculous, bitter fanfic.

>>157251725
Underrated

>>157261457
Hisoka agreed to the conditions of the fight and it was obvious that they would both pull no punches. Outsmarting the opponent, by using your abilities creatively is almost always the key to win.

>>157261971
You're right he will only pull another bunch of random abilities from his Great Book of ''That'' the clown will lose again and you Hisokafags will try to find another excuse to latch on like you're doing right now

>>157261971
>he's killing them as payback for cheating
Again this begs the question. How do you cheat in a fight to the death with no rules? Where did Chrollo agree to an honorable 1v1? Even if he did have outside help it's still within the rules of the game he wanted.

Hisoka walked into that arena expecing the 1v1 to make his boner throb. Instead he got mopped up by either a single opponent who just outskilled him with a variety of abilities. Or a coordinated group of individuals who were tired of a crazy clown stalking their boss. Either way its still fair.

>>157262104
I'm pretty sure Hisoka would be angry if he found out Chrollo had the other phantom troupe help in the middle of the fight. You say there's no rules, but the fight being 1v1 was clearly the intention of Hisoka. 4v1 would be breaking the rules.

Hisoka died once. He lost the first battle.

Now he's already preparing round 2.

>>157262195
>4v1 would be breaking the rules.
If both people walk into a fight and one expects the other to uphold their standards, but no agreement has been reached. No rules have been broken because non existed in the first place.

Hisoka wanting a 1v1 doesn't make that the rules of the fight, just his expectation. Chrollo is under no obligation to accommodate him especially when the fight is to the death.

>he's killing them as payback for cheating

Nope. That's just settings for the second leg

So theyre in ToH again rn in the manga?

>>157262195
Hisoka being angry about Chrollo using a clever move does not make it cheating, it merely makes Hisoka a sore loser. Chrollos entire specialty is using the abilities of other people, so why would not he use those of his team ?

>>157261897
>Than explain why we have multiple instances of someone transporting or restraining an opponent with a greater aura against their will?
Because of the restraints? Seriously how can you be so dense. Since Owl's Hatsu worked on Nobunaga, it's pretty obvious he can't just smash them in his hand afterwards, in example.

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>>157262351
>>157262409
>being as autistic as Chrollo

Please. The fight was a 1v1. It's not a rule, using other members is not a "clever move." Bringing other members into the fight is not just cheating, it's debasing the entire fight - it would be inaccurate to state the Hisoka ever even fought Chrollo, Hisoka fought 4 Phantom Troupe members and lost.

>>157262504
Nice fanfic my man.

>>157262504
>Hisoka fought 4 Phantom Troupe members and lost.
>Muh 6 gorillion
Good thing that Chrollo fought alone then

>>157262436
>it's pretty obvious he can't just smash them in his hand afterwards, in example.
Nice headcanon. Here's mine. He didn't kill Nobunaga because he was planning to take whoever he captured alive so the mob could torture them. Owl wasn't the fighter in the group. See how I can make stuff up too.

What restrictions did Knov have? Unlike Shoot who was missing an arm or Morel who needed a specific pipe to use parts of his ability. Knov has no visible restrictions.

>>157262504
>Hisoka fought 4 Phantom Troupe members and lost.
And you still can't prove it. Especially when we see Chrollo use the majority of the abilities you say he had other people use for him.

>The fight was a 1v1
I keep saying, even if Hisoka thought that it was never going to be one if Chrollo never agreed to one in the first place.

The same thing happened ironically. Hisoka said he was a member of the group but the whole time he planned to betray Chrollo and kill him. He just went through the motions to keep himself close. Now if Chrollo did have help he did the same back. Pretends to humor Hisoka's 1v1 request and then turns it around on him and has a group curbstomp.

Pottery

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Cutest girl

>>157262747
>Nice headcanon. Here's mine.
You're the only one posting headcanons, speedreader.

Kurapika literally explained how the restrictions work. There's no such thing as a Nen power that's infinite and "just works as a side effect, bro!".

>>157262747
>even if Hisoka thought that it was never going to be one if Chrollo never agreed to one in the first place

No. If Hisoka says "Chrollo I want to fight you." it does not mean "Chrollo I want to fight you and also some of your friends at the same time and also don't tell me your friends are helping you and also have them do it in secret."

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>Muh 6 gorillion vs 1
>believing the troupe helped Chrollo without definitive proof
>Chrollo cheating when Hisoka willingly walked in to his ideal set up he had 100% faith in
you guys are making it real hard to be a hisokafag right now he accepted his loss, why can't you?

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>>157251421
None of them. They will end up teaming up against somebody, screencap this.

>>157258912
Even netero would have trouble with Chrollo. He was basically a one trick pony, it's true that he's substantially stronger and faster than him, but all he has is an incredibly fast punch. Chrollo and his magic book can probably come up with some strategy with which he can kill him without even initiating an actual fight.

>Hurr Chrollo cheated
>Hurr Hisoka's a sore loser

How about Hisoka decided to simply even the scales by gimping Chrollo's abilities before running back for a rematch? Chrollo loses the nen ability of anyone who dies, unless their nen becomes stronger from their death.

>>157262879
>speedreader.
And now you have insults instead of answering my questions. Ok.

>There's no such thing as a Nen power that's infinite
That has never been my point. But a common trend of Nen created spaces is that they can't be destroyed, only dispelled by fulfilling the requirements or because the creator wills it. This is consistent even with Owl's fun fun cloth which Nobunaga couldn't cut his way out of. So thanks for more proof that you can't just brute force your way out of a nen space even if it's made of cloth.

I'm saying that Scream's ability to sever matter is not dependent on Knov's aura strength. If anything is between his hands when he closes the portals they are gone, doesn't matter how strong they are. The "severing" is a unique quality that having a portal creates. What if someone was entering Knov's normal portals and he deactivated the portal (or died) while they were halfway through? Do you think they would be ejected or do you think half of them would be left in the real world and the nen space he created would have the rest?

>>157263264
>And now you have insults instead of answering my questions. Ok.
I'm not here to spoonfeed you the manga.

>That has never been my point. But a common trend of Nen created spaces is that they can't be destroyed,
It literally isn't, the only "Nen created space" no one tried to destroy in the first place. Everything made by Nen can be destroyed or reversed.

>>157263359
>Everything made by Nen can be destroyed or reversed.
Not Cheeto's dome. Not morels nen infused smoke. Not Hakoware. Not genthru's time bombs.

You ever get tired of being wrong?

Did you actually read this series.

>>157263461
What makes you think those can't be undone by someone with substantially more aura and/or some mechanism with which to undo it?

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>>157261897
It stands to reason that sufficient enough stamina should be required to maintain an ability. As Knuckle explains, in a nen fight, you expend aura every second and the rate of consumption greatly increases for all the different applications you use. Even assuming that Knov's ability doesn't consume alot of aura, it literally can't stay on all the time because he will eventually reach his capacity.

Not all abilities work the same but all comes with certain limitations not only in terms of the ability but the user's physical and mental state are a huge factor as it is with nen in general. Case in point is what happened with Shoot (Ch 276 pg 6)

And whether ability times out like Cheetu or is consciously released, the ability will fade eventually and as it was seen in both cases, the objects do return to reality.

>>157263461
>Not Cheeto's dome. Not morels nen infused smoke. Not Hakoware. Not genthru's time bombs.

>what are restrictions
Again, you are completely dense and keep ignoring this.

Cheetu's dome does nothing to you so that combined with him being a CA means it takes massive amounts of Nen to destroy. Netero probably could, Morel was not strong enough. Morel's smoke got destroyed instantly by Youpi as well as other ants. Hakoware is a harmless tracking device with pretty low range on its own. Genthru's time bombs have an extremely convoluted way of activating.

Seriously. Densest HxH poster of the year.

>>157263506
Becausee Hakoware tool a full force rage blast from meruem and didn't have a scratch. Unless your a nen exorcist the some abilities ARE actually indestructible. And even then there still exists an upper limit as to what can be exorcised.

>>157263616
>this total lack of self-awareness
Hakoware is the most harmless Nen ability in the series. It doesn't prevent Meruem from doing anything, so not even he can destroy it by bashing it.

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>decide to watch 1999 to appease the contrarian fags
>kurapika calmly and precisely turns his eyes scarlet to kill an actual spider in episode 2 and goes right back to eating

Why shouldn't I drop this right now

>>157263598
>CA means it takes massive amounts of Nen to destroy
Prove it can be destroyed. If Knuckles ability is indestructible why isn't cheetahs?

>Densest HxH poster of the year.
I agree you seem to fail at grasping a very simple concept.

>>157263748
>Prove it can be destroyed
Every conjured Nen ability has been destroyed. Knuckles ability can also be destroyed, Meruem was just not strong enough.

>I agree you seem to fail at grasping a very simple concept.
Yes, you really fail at it hard. Complete ignorance of everything Kurapika said.

>>157263887
*Every other

>people think Chrollo cheated
People call Hunter x Hunter the smart battle shounen, but boy, oh boy, are the fans miserably stupid.

Not only did he beat him in a 1v1, he specifically did it in a way that'd humiliate him. Chrollo got a little full of himself and accidentally let Hisoka survive. Hisoka was so humiliated, he's now ditched his entire life philosophy in an attempt to hurt Chrollo's feelings. Hisoka thought too highly of himself and let his opponent choose the location of their fight, and he got bodied for it. Now the Spiders are paying for Chrollo's own arrogance.

At the end of the day, Chrollo is canonically stronger than Hisoka. Even the databooks say so. He was his target for a reason, but he bit off more than he could chew.

>>157265199
At least Hisoka scored with Machi afterwards, Chrollo never will.

>>157263746
Both series have strengths and weaknesses. Both are worth watching.

>>157265199
This. Hisoka didn't just die physically, Chrolla basically humiliated so badly hes not even the same person afterwards. Entire way of life shattered.

Reminder that brain can't be revived.

>>157265688
It can be, it's just that it begins degenerating after a few minutes of no oxygen. Since Hisoka is exponentially stronger and more durable than the average human it makes sense that his brain could last longer without taking damage from no oxygen.

>two of the most cancerous, edgelord characters in the series about to fight a deathmatch
>at least one will die, likely both
>threads will be finally rid of all the cancerous edgelords these characters produced
>both survive
thanks togashi-sensei

>>157266658
GG

>>157266658
>character who just likes fighting strong people
>edgelord

No. Chrollo is a massive edgelord though.

>>157252381
I want to fuck his tight boipucci while tenderly nibbling his nipples.

>>157261402
>What happens if Knov loses consciousness or dies
Actually, something to note as well is that conjured objects are stated to be persistent and can exist outside their creators awareness once manifested. It's also possible to separate the creator from his conjured object by great distances and it still function. So while I'm not going to say that Knov's mansion will always exist because >>157263592 makes a good point, it can be reasonably argued that outside of death or aura exhaustion his mansion will always exist.

>>157263887
>>157263921
>Every other
What Kurapika said only applies to his chains which operate on the "can't make it better than God" principle. Later abilities have been shown to be completely indestructible so long as the conditions are right, or are of such an extreme durability that no known force can damage them.

So once again. With regard to nen created spaces or Nen Sealed areas. There are a number of ones shown in the series
>Fun Fun Cloth (Conjuration)
>4th Dimension Mansion(Conjuration
>Cheeto's Tag arena (Conjuration)
>Morel's Smoke Cage (Manipulation)
>Hotel Raffleia (Conjuration)

One thing in common with 4 of these is that an opponent was trapped within it, able to act, and still couldn't break the walls containing them. The conclusion we draw from this is that Nen spaces do in fact operate on another rule that just isn't explicitly stated but observable in multiple instances.

We also have abilities like Hakoware, Genthru's bombs, and probably other abilities I'm forgetting. Abilities that tag themselves to an opponent and are immune to physical tampering (but not exorcism) These abilities are likewise indestructible and will persist until their conditions for removal have been met.

Lastly we have no way of knowing the restrictions of people like Owl, Knuckles, Shoot, and Knov have on their abilities. So stating that Owl's restriction is that he doesn't crush the contents of his cloth is bullshit.

>>157266658
>>at least one will die, likely both
Non-retards knew both would make it out alive. The most typical thing to do would've been to have Chrollo realize he might die and cause a huge shitstorm to give him cover to run away. That's what a more generic story would've done. Togashi had Chrollo flat out win and have Hisoka resuscitate himself to keep the plotline going, but in a new direction.

Hisoka is too important to die in an intermission arc. He's been built up too much as a character (basically the 5th main character) to have him lose without learning a lesson. His arcs should further his character. He's been used too much to go out now to a character only tangentially related to the other plots or to prove a point to us that could've been just as easily done with a lesser character.

But Chrollo couldn't die, either. If Hisoka was just gonna' kill him like that, there was no reason to come up with this "Kurapika sealed his Nen" plot device to begin with. Could've just had them fight back in Yorkshin. Togashi was obviously saving Chrollo so he could reconvene with his group and reappear later in the story for something.

See, when you have an IQ over 60, you come to realize that things happen in a story for a reason and thus, likewise, certain things can't happen for a reason. I do envy you, though. As a blithering idiot, every turn and twist of the plot must be incredibly surprising to you. You must never get bored.

>>157266954
>What Kurapika said only applies to his chains which operate on the "can't make it better than God" principle

Considering that a smith can make a weapon capable of cutting Zoldycks, that standard of God himself is completely irrelevant.

>One thing in common with 4 of these is that an opponent was trapped within it, able to act, and still couldn't break the walls containing them.
Cheetu's conjured "arena" is the only one that was unbreakable by Morel, who is strong but not strong enough than a Chimera Ant's Nen whose hatsu makes you locked in with him until you touch him.

You seem to be completely and utterly incapable of understanding what restrictions are and how they work. If you restrict your ability to work in a more complicated manner, it's Nen strength increases.

You are pretty much the first person I've ever seen on /a/ who's so dense that he couldn't understand it. Even animeonlys who say CA is the worst arc ever are able to grasp this concept.

>>157267222
*not stronger than a Chimera

>>157267102
>being this buttblasted
Where did the clown touch you?

>>157267306
My asshole.

I love Hisoka. I also love Chrollo. I love Hunter x Hunter. I'm not one of you faggots who latch onto a character and then cry when they lose. I'm entirely unbiased and am just commenting on the very basics of storytelling. I don't know how you idiots can be wrong over and over and over again and still refuse to listen to your sempai.

It's so easy to trigger Chrollofags. All you have to do is mention the word "cheated" and they go into a tizzy. Quite a fragile concept of victory, don't you think?

>>157266802
Chrollo is too indifferent to be an edgelord. Hisoka, however, is a smirking pedoclown edgelord.

>>157267222
>that standard of God himself is completely irrelevant.
Than what is your point with bringing up Kurapika and restrictions. The point of his chains is that there is no such thing as an inescapable chain, but what he made was a "hard as fuck to escape from" chain for a specific group of people. What you are saying is that there are no indestructible abilities just "really hard to break out of" abilities. Which isn't wrong because it's what the series states, but even stuff like hakoware survives things that are completely at the top of the spectrum of nen based destructive power challenges the validity of that answer. At that point what's wrong with calling the ability indestructible? By all appearances and definitions, they are.

Now we go back to the original point of argument, Knov's silent scream. How does aura defense stop the matter that is enclosed between his hands from being sent to the room? This isn't like slamming a door on someone, this is a type of teleportation that has unknown properties but they are at least properties that exist within the HxH world. And it's common in fiction for things being sent through a teleporter that suddenly shuts off to be separated regardless of how durable they are. Which is exactly what Knov does.

And looking at nen spaces. What evidence do you have that Nen spaces that exist in their own pocket dimension are escapable without fulfilling any conditions the creator made? Looking back on Morel vs Cheetu even if Cheetu has more aura, it's not that Morel can't break the walls, he can't break the hourglass. He never even tries to break the walls and immediately goes into his 8 hour waiting game.

This is actually consistent with some abilities. Instead of trying to destroy it (unless an exorcist is available) the victims have to either A) Fulfill the requirements of removal or B) Try and kill the user.

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Basically what I am getting from this thread is that Chrollo is an intelligent coward and Hisoka is too nice/trusting

>>157268799
>Than what is your point with bringing up Kurapika and restrictions.
Because God is stronger than even Meruem. Only a God can do infinitely strong impossible to defend against effects that you think that girl who kisses guys to become her slaves does, or create undestroyable anything.

Putting a restriction on your ability enhances your Nen strength with that ability.

How is this so hard to understand.

>>157268821
Kuroro is a cheating faggot and Hisoka is really strong and cool.

>>157268832
what are you getting at here?

>>157268919
>How is this so hard to understand.
It's not and have mentioned restricitons multiple times. My point is that there are abilities that are, or by all definition can be seen as indestructible regardless of what Kurapika's mentor has said. And there are abilities that just ignore certain standards of defense.

Both of which are supported by the story multiple times. How is this so hard to understand?

>>157268957
needs a thick cock peeking out of those shorts and poking at your face

>>157269023
Well I think I will take Kurapika's mentor's words over your subjective opinion since he actually lives in a universe that has Nen and you don't.

I want everyone who says Pitou has a cock to shinen

>>157269423
I would nut in my pants if i woke up to this

>>157269208
nothing wrong with a fat veiny feminine penis, anon.

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>>157269116
>Well I think I will take Kurapika's mentor's words over your subjective opinion
I think I'll take Knuckles proven words over your inability to realize that a statement written over 5+ years ago might not have been completely accurate through the years. It's not like there wasn't an entire arc that featured the idea that some abilities (of differing types) just don't break no matter who is within them or anything.

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I just reread Greed Island, and I have to say that it's probably my favorite arc. Togashi really outdid himself with developing and fleshing out the game's rules.

>>157270968
Did her peen stand up as hard as her tail did?

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>>157254460
I wanted her to be happy.

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>>157262878
Fuck yes.

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>>157257680
>implying you have a heart

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>>157272992
She deserved better

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I honestly think the most shocking thing Togashi could do with Camilla would be if she genuinely turned out to be a good person despite all the years of politicking. All the other Princes are already psychopaths anyway, why hide her thoughts if all they're going to reveal is that she's as crazy as the rest of them?

>Hisokafags vs Corollafags wankery

Why bother? You know deep in your hearts they'll just die a gruesome death in the DC.

Chrollo has never won a single fight fairly

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>>157274392
You're right, he stole my heart a long time ago

>>157251421
Just finished the anime, the Dark continent concept seems pretty interesting. Has Togashi gone into that a lot in the manga or did the hiatus stop any progress toward it?

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>>157275715
They're not going to the Dark Continent. The boat arc is a separate one, and the Spiders (and Kurapika) will have no role in the real DC.

It's likely that Hisoka and Chrollo will die on the boat, but not at each other's hands. Their fight is over since Hisoka lost

>>157276297
>but not at each other's hands
Damn, I neglected that part. They'll probably die in a spirit beast crossfire,

>>157274801
Schoolgirl pitou is best

>>157276297
>that disgusting pic
Typical chrollo -fag meme

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>>157276445
Yeah maybe that nerd Chrollo might fucking died, but Hisoka will pretty much weasel out of every perilous situation from here on out.

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I want to kiss Pitou

>>157277868
Kissing dirt is unhealthy for you, anon.

>>157277524
Chrollo will definitely die now, now that we saw the full extent of his cheating, there's no more reason for him to live.

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>HxH threads devolves into /jojo/ because pitou fags spam the same 10 images in every thread

Kill yourselves

>>157276445
Hisoka will be killed by Machi on the boat
Chrollo and Kurapika will kill each other in a final clash

>1 chance at life
>born an emitter
can you imagine?

>>157278095
Emitting is not so bad.

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>>157277989
>Machi
>doing anything other than getting raped and killed in the whale's engine room
Nigga please.

Silva > Kuroro

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>>157278976

>>157278976
what is silver's nen?

is he a dragonball character like his dad?

>>157251421
is the manga back or something

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>>157278976
>Silva
>hid behind his daddy and couldn't even kill Chrollo who wasn't even serious
Yeah, no, Silva is a meme.

>>157251725

kek'd

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>>157279328
kek

>>157279328
>hisoka got killed by having people thrown at him

this is just sad

>>157275583
I hope she's good, because the other 3 seem to be nuts

>>157277925
>cheating
will hisokafags ever stop pushing their fanfic?

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>>157279803
Pushing dumb headcanon is basically Hisokafag tradition at this point.

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I want to pet her

>>157269109
>There are actually fags who prefer Pitou as a female in these threads.
Laughable.

>>157251421
I gave my made a condition for my Nen - It will keep me alive as long as HxH is not finished.

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>>157255854
>Literally reveals his entire arsenal of powers to Hisoka before the fight
>Tells him how he uses them
>It's a deathmatch
>With no rules whatsoever, everything is fair game
>Hisoka allowed Chrollo to choose when and where to fight
>Hicocucks STILL whining about "muh cheating :(" 11 months later

>>157278798
Machi is safe, she was impregnated by Hisoka and is now bearing his rubber and cum

>>157279951
I still don't get why it's relevant. I would cheat the hell out of it if there was a very remote chance it would cost my life, even if I was far superior like Jesus vs memeclown.

>>157263746
The first 3 or so episodes are the only part I think is better than 2011 as an introduction.

Rest just felt dragged to me. The boat filler arc in exam was just boring and went on long too.

The only people who like 1999 more are contrarian/nostalgiafags who like to post the same cherrypicked shots from the 1999 anime.

>>157280246
Chrollo was too kind to Hisoka.

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>>157280246
>cheating
Where the hell did this come from?
Even Hisoka admitted along the lines of "well shit, I made a mistake" as he recognized Kuroro's abilities. He then goes off to kill the spiders so that HE get's control of the situation next time.

Just from where does this "Chrollo cheated" excuse come from?

>>157280521
Is this the first HxH thread you have visited this year?

>>157280521
Hisokafags were predicting that Chrollo would lose and now they're still damage controlling almost a year later

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>>157280521
From salty Hisoka fags who can't accept that Chrollo is superior to their clown.

>>157280521
>1v1 fight
>couldn't win it without his troupe members helping him (giving him their abilities, which basically sealed their fate)
>and without using innocent audience members too

Chrollo is a pathetic cheater

>>157280556
the last HxH thread I've bee in was when the new hiatus was announced. So yeah, it's a while.

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>>157280690

>Everyone's on the boat
>They will most likely encounter a huge evil on the continent
>Use everyone to beat them in a huge war
>They win and celebrate together when Gon says "We're the hunter x hunters"
>Roll credits

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>>157281623
>Everyone's on the ship
>my shipping will finally come true
>no Gon X Killua
>no Leorio X Kurapika
>just Hunter X Hunter

>Chrollo got a cool jacket
>He ruins it by converting into a hobbo
>F Chrollo jacket

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I want Kurapika to went full anti-hero in this battle royal.

I really miss Yorkshin.

>Dark continent arc
>It's called arc become indians live there
>They exterminate the indians
>United states of Hunteria is created.

>>157272992
>her
LUL

Wait if His okay isn't dead, did Corolla technically win??

>>157282574
It was a deathmatch.
Hisoka died , then came back to life.

So Chrollo won.

>>157278095
>born an emitter

>Can create nen constructs that you can freely teleport with
>Make army of autonomous fighters
>Can learn how to DBZ lazer something
>Be able to create floating mines and stuff
>Start working out and become like Razer
There is no bad nen category, just people with no imagination

Can't Chrollo learn moves himself?

If he does he can use 4+ at the same time.

>>157283153
>Can't Chrollo learn moves himself?
Creating multiple hatsu abilities will both fuck your overall own capabilities and waste your time. His bookmark was a smart evolution but he only needs one ability to be combat effective.

>>157282574
>phoneposting this bad

Chrollo did not win, since the goal is to kill the opponent, and Hisoka is not dead. That's like saying putting the opponent in check and then walking away is a win in chess.

>>157283745
>and Hisoka is not dead
I mean he was. Technically Chrollo won and Hisoka echoes this.

>>157283794
But he had a way of escaping from death, so you can't say that Chrollo ever killed him in the first place.

It's just like chess. The goal is to pin the opponent's king, but you don't win unless there's no way of the king escaping, you've only forced the opponent into moving the king. If you walk away after check you didn't win. Chrollo walked away after putting Hisoka in a death state, but unknown to him Hisoka could escape that state, and thus is not dead. Chrollo didn't win.

Not that Chrollo and Hisoka ever even fought in the first place, the fight was Hisoka vs. Chrollo, Shalnark, Kortopi, and Machi.

>>157284106
Your fanfic is worn out, just stop already.

>>157284106
>o you can't say that Chrollo ever killed him in the first place.
But he did. That's the point.

TO use your analogy, Chrollo put Hisoka in Checkmate. Than Hisoka got mad and started killing all of Chrollo's friends because they each taught him a strategy he used on the board.

Now Hisoka wants a rematch because he thinks that by killing everyone who can teach Chrollo new strategies, he'll get his much sought after 1v1.

Let's make this clear:

Machi
Shalnark
Kortopi
Welfin, Gyro & Hina (met them at Meteor City)
Illumi
Abengane
Zushi
Pairo

ALL interfered in the fight. This is a fact. Chrollo is canonically a cheater.

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>>157284271
>Chrollo put Hisoka in Checkmate

But he undeniably did not because Hisoka is alive. If he was put in checkmate he would have never been able to come back to life, and thus would've lost the fight. Chrollo did a half-job and walked away, he didn't win.

>>157284372
No, only Machi, Kortopi, and probably Shalnark you false-flagging ironic redditor.

>>157280690
>using your inherent Nen ability which implies stealing others' abilities
>cheater

Is life hard for you, anon? I mean, with that severe retardation level of yours

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Are Hisotards ever going to live this down

Why are people giving a fuck if Chrollo "cheated"

He would have ended the fight if he used his teleportation powers anyways but togashi decided to forget he has that

>>157284422
>But he undeniably did not because Hisoka is alive.
Coming back after the fact doesn't change the fact that Hisoka lost in the first place. Accept it, the clown got outplayed.

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>>157284422
No you retard, it was a deathmatch and Hisoka died (the aftermath doesn't count) and Chrollo lived. That's it. Fucking Togashi himself said Hisoka lost, and Hisoka admitted he died, it can't get any more clearer than this.

>No, only Machi, Kortopi, and probably Shalnark you false-flagging ironic redditor.
It's funny how Hisocucks keep spouting this meme without any proof.

>>157284549
>Are Hisotards ever going to live this down
Never

>>157251421
The Clown has already died so he is safe

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Can Hisoka realistically take down pitou

>>157284549
Hisokafags are eternally stuck in the first stage of grief.

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>>157284586
No, it was because Chrollo wanted to take him down in style. That's why he chose these specific abilities.

>>157284639
He couldn't even take down Chrollo.

>>157284659
But she can't use Gyo

>>157284742
Shit wrong person>>157284691

Is Hisoka the biggest pushover in the entirety of HxH?

Let's see

>Kills a bunch of worthless trash during Hunter Exam
>Defeats an incompetent Nen user during Heavens Arena arc
>beats and/or scares the shit outta two kids
>plays a dodgeball game in Greed Island arc then fuck off to chase Chrollo
>doesn't show up during Chimera Ants arc, which is quite odd given how the events of that arc offered numerous opportunities to fight extremely powerful enemies
>kills a shitty butler during Election arc
>chickens out when Illumi gets visibly angry at him
>get LITERALLY blown the fuck out by Chrollo in a deathmatch with no rules
>kills two physically weakest PT members when they didn't have access to their Hatsu because SALT


...wew

>>157284549
I'm sure everyone'll get over it when Hisoka eats the genei ryodan for breakfast.

>>157284586
Presumably that would not work on Hisoka since his aura is greater than Chrollo's.

>>157284603
He never "lost in the first place" because he was never really killed. Check != checkmate.

>>157284609
>it was a deathmatch and Hisoka died (the aftermath doesn't count)

There is no aftermath because the fight was never really settled, especially considering Hisoka enacted the mechanism with which to revive himself during the fight. Chrollo did not kill Hisoka.

>without any proof.

Hisoka saw a fishing line, which is Machi's ability. Togashi would never drop that hint for no reason. Chrollo dispelled Gallery Fake in the middle of the fight and gave it back to Kortopi, which is why there were many more clones than Hisoka expected and why Hisoka kept getting duped even though he understood the abilities perfectly (because Chrollo never actually had to use the Gallery Fake page again). Presumably Shalnark used a similar ability/tool to his real one, which is why that needle did not have bat wings (and togashi also made a big deal out of this). The other alternative is that Chrollo removed the bat wings from the needle in the middle of the fight for no reason. Also, Chrollo changed outfits for no reason in the middle of the fight twice, that's pretty damn suspicious although I still don't know what to make of that.

>>157284805
Shhh. Chill, anon. Everything's all right. Chrollo won, Hisoka lost. Shit happens. Go get some sleep.

>>157284800
>get hyped up as supremely strong
>only ever kills mooks/non-fighters
>first competent person he faces literally blows him the fuck out
Really sucks being the pedoclown.

>>157284805
>Presumably that would not work on Hisoka since his aura is greater than Chrollo's.

What's your basis on this? They never ever went in to detail on that ability

>>157284800
When you put it that way he sounds really lame.

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>>157284805
>revive himself
>Chrollo did not kill Hisoka
Old silly anon, you need to die in order to revive.

>>157284805
>Check != checkmate
Death = checkmate
Hisoka reviving = him resetting the board for a second game but trying to remove some of chrollos pieces

Just accept it. He lost.

>>157284800
All that build up literally for nothing

>>157284805
>He never "lost in the first place" because he was never really killed. Check != checkmate.
Is this bait? Because if not, wew, you are one delusional Hisocuck.

We don't even know how many abilities are there in Chrollo's book. Could be hundreds. And he's extremely good at improvising.

>>157284805
Jesus Christ you haven't even read the manga properly, you don't even know how Chrollo's abilities work. The entire fight can be perfectly explained with Chrollo alone, there is no contradiction.

Here's the gem though
>Also, Chrollo changed outfits for no reason in the middle of the fight twice, that's pretty damn suspicious although I still don't know what to make of that
This is something Hisoka explains you autist. Chrollo did it to blend in with the crowd without having to use Convert Hands.

Are all Hisokafags retarded speedreaders?

Why didn't Hisoka accept the flashy, magnificent death Chrollo gave him?

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>>157284896
That's generally how abilities work in HxH, it depends on the exact mechanism of the ability but you can't just go around teleporting people who have better nen defense than you. Even if that particular skill somehow completely ignores the target's aura (very unlikely) there's presumably some way to get out of it, maybe Hisoka is just fast enough to avoid, or maybe Nobunaga wasn't expecting it at the time and thus got caught off guard. An ability that works unilaterally with no consequence would be a no limits fallacy and Togashi is smart enough to avoid that.

>>157284951
How could claim to have killed someone, if they are still alive? You just put them in a temporary, scientific death state from with which they deliberately escaped beforehand. The match was never settled.

>>157285053
Of course it could be explained, but the fact is that Togashi deliberately dropped the hints I mentioned, and the fact that you attempted to refuted none of them shows that they are convincing.

And yeah, he really "blended in" by changing from one ridiculous outfit covered in crosses and bandages to another ridiculous outfit covered in crosses and bandages.

>>157284372
Glad Shart-nark died at least. Sick of that kid.

>>157285125
>it depends on the exact mechanism of the ability but you can't just go around teleporting people who have better nen defense than you.
Oh my god are you back with this nonsense again?

It wasn't a staydeathmatch

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>>157285346
Nani?

>>157251421
Chrollo will meet his demise at the dark continent. Not sure if togashi planning to kill off hisoka at the end of the series.

>>157285443
Hisoka will inevitably do something retarded like try and fight Ging and get killed. That's the tragic flaw of Hisoka's character

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>>157285125
That's because those aren't "hints", they're just bits of headcanon glued together to give a semblance of a coherent theory.

>Machi
There is no hint here, Chrollo used a fishing line. He can do that.

>Koltopi
This is outright false. Unless he and Chrollo share a telepathic connection, Chrollo has no idea where the puppets are. Chrollo used Gallery Fake, and stamped the puppets himself. Hisoka also mentions he doesn't know how many puppets will come, so your statement the number of puppets were more than what Hisoka expected is wrong. The only part where Hisoka was duped was due to Suna nd Moon. You literally haven't read the manga properly.

>Shalnark
Again, false. Chrollo literally told Shalnark he'll give back his ability. Togashi is inconsistent with his art, that's no proof or hint. Chrollo used two needles, one on his clone and one on the puppet to blow up Hisoka's hand. Shalnark does not enter into the equation at all.

>And yeah, he really "blended in" by changing from one ridiculous outfit covered in crosses and bandages to another ridiculous outfit covered in crosses and bandages.
Hisoka is the one who explained Chrollo would change his clothes to blend in with the crowd. That's all the explanation we need. You're being deliberately retarded here.

The manga offers a perfect explanation why it is a 1v1. You're desperately trying to damage control you favourite character losing.

>>157285602
>Chrollo used a fishing line

And it's just a coincidence that Machi happens to use fishing lines and she happened to be around the arena. Togashi is smart enough to realize people will put 2 and 2 together there, so he probably did it deliberately. It's a hint.

>Chrollo has no idea where the puppets are

I assume you mean Kortopi has no idea where they are, and he simply could have been following Chrollo around while Hisoka lost him in the crowd.

>Chrollo literally told Shalnark he'll give back his ability

And I'm saying he used an entirely different ability or device that works similarly to his real one, probably with some hangups, which is why the needle is missing bat wings. Saying Togashi is not consistent with his art is not a good enough defense for the needle to be missing its defining feature, which it has every other time, and to be clearly shown to be missing it in its own panel.

>Hisoka is the one who explained Chrollo would change his clothes to blend in with the crowd

And I'm saying Hisoka's entire version of events is incorrect because he never realized Chrollo gave up Gallery Fake mid-fight.

>>157285384
For teleportation ability specifically there isn't much evidence to support the idea that the user has to overcome their targets aura defense to affect your target. Much like manipulation abilities all that seems to matter is meeting your use conditions and it will take effect. There is also nothing to suggest that you can get out of being teleported.

>>157286222
It's not fair to evaluate a skill based on what is not shown - all we have evidence for is that the teleportation ability can teleport someone of Nobunaga's nen defense and speed while he's not paying any attention to Chrollo. There's no evidence that it will work on someone faster and with more aura than Nobunaga, like Hisoka

>>157255854

And all that becomes irrelevant because the clown also cheated and is still alive...

>>157251421

You will know once the boat ride ends

> never ever

>>157285886
It's unuseful to be autistic about it, anon. While I do believe the theory has some merit, there is no way to tell for sure until the manga is back.

>>157286427
But the thing is we might literally never know, Togashi has no reason to confirm or deconfirm other satiating rabid fans on the internet, which clearly has no interest in doing or he would be writing the manga in the first place. And Chrollofags will sit around saying there's no way he cheated since the manga never brought it up again.

>>157285886
Alright, you're a speedreader.

>And it's just a coincidence that Machi happens to use fishing lines and she happened to be around the arena. Togashi is smart enough to realize people will put 2 and 2 together there, so he probably did it deliberately. It's a hint.
No, it's headcanon. Chrollo is capable of using fishing lines. You can cling to your headcanon though.

>I assume you mean Kortopi has no idea where they are, and he simply could have been following Chrollo around while Hisoka lost him in the crowd.
You're retarded. Chrollo has to Order Stamp Koltopi's puppets, you idiot.

Also, I love how you ignored the rest of my argument. The number of clones did not exceed Hisoka's expectations - he admits he has no idea how many there are. He was revising his earlier estimate, and freely admits Chrollo can create how many ever clones he needs. The entire argument is based on a falsehood. Read the fight again, this time slowly.

>And I'm saying he used an entirely different ability or device that works similarly to his real one, probably with some hangups, which is why the needle is missing bat wings. Saying Togashi is not consistent with his art is not a good enough defense for the needle to be missing its defining feature, which it has every other time, and to be clearly shown to be missing it in its own panel.
This is some top tier fanfiction, but the explanation given by Hisoka is more than sufficient.

>And I'm saying Hisoka's entire version of events is incorrect because he never realized Chrollo gave up Gallery Fake mid-fight.
And I just proved Chrollo had the ability throughout the fight. You have zero reading comprehension.

>>157286427
>I do believe the theory has some merit
It really doesn't.

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Who are your favorite characters in the DC arc so far?

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>>157286483
>m-muh bad Chrollofags are demolishing my fanfiction :(
It's ironic you bring up Togashi who confirmed Hisoka lost the fight.

>>157285012
No, that's just anons jacking him off thinking his some end boss type of character.

They clowned themselves.

>>157286515
>Chrollo has to Order Stamp Koltopi's puppets, you idiot

Except why would Chrollo have any trouble keeping up with someone he's substantially faster than? I assumed you meant that Kortopi would be lost or something prior to getting his ability back, in which case Chrollo could've just met up with him. I still don't get what you're claiming.

>he was revising his earlier estimate

Yeah that's the point.

Also nice job refuting my arguments by saying fanfiction, headcanon, and speedreader over and over.

>>157286664
Togashi is wrong, but regardless that has nothing to do with Chrollo cheating. And the fact that the word fanfiction is being thrown around for the 30th time this thread makes me seriously question Chrollofags ability to read and respond to arguments.

>>157286668
Pretty sure the point was that Hisoka was never really all that strong, since he has close to zero noteworthy feats

>>157286739
>arguments.
You had any? Hilarious.

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>>157286739
>Togashi is wrong
>Chrollo cheated meme yet again

>>157286628
I hope she's a genuinely nice person.

No backstabs, that would crush me

>>157286628
Oito, Kachou, Fugetsu.

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>>157286346
>There's no evidence that it will work on someone faster and with more aura than Nobunaga, like Hisoka
There are four or so teleoprtatiom abilities shown in the series. Two require the user to be in contact with/close proximity to their target. (Cheetu and Knov's scream) two worked on opponents without seemingly any need to factor in their speed or area, they just had to select a target. (Goreinu and Chrollo)

I also forgot the means of getting to greed island which requires contact with a game system. But also the GM removal card Razor uses which just required that he use a card and his opponents conceded they were going to be removed.

Some teleoprtatiom abilities can be beaten with speed, others seem to not care about the targets attributes.

>>157286739
>Togashi is wrong, but regardless that has nothing to do with Chrollo cheating

When the asshurt is so painful that suddenly the man who wrote the fight is in th wrong for not going along with this anon's rabid delusions.

Just when I thought certain Hisokeks couldn't go any lower

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>>157286628
who were introduced this arc because honestly
Beyond >Tserriednich > Benjamin > everybody else
there hasn't been enough of the princes nor Beyond's crew shown for me but they're interesting. >>157286739
>Togashi is wrong
not him but togashi is wrong about his own story?
so what exactly are you doing now other than embarrassing yourself.

>>157286628
The ones we will never see because Togashi will die before releasing the next chapter.

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>>157286628
This nice hot canon yuri couple.

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>>157286739
>Togashi is wrong

>>157287241
I hope for the brunette to be a total backstabbing bitch who will kill her sister.

>>157277959
It's always the same anon spammimg the pics that I post, He's too autistic to search pictures by himself, it's fucking embarrassing.

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>Hisoka and Hisoka fags in a nutshell

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>>157286739
>Togashi is wrong
Ladies and Geltlemen. Hisoka fans in a nutshell.

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>>157286912
Other teleportation skills' limits have no bearing on Chrollo's.

>>157286822
>>157286954
>>157287020
>>157287259
>>157287899
I've already explained this this thread. Hisoka did not lose because he is not dead. Check != checkmate. It'd be one thing if Hisoka just randomly came back to life, but he enacted the mechanism to revive him during the fight. Chrollo undeniably walked away prematurely in an unfinished fight to the death. It being Togashi's story has nothing to do with Togashi's lack of logic when he made that statement.

fuck Gon

>>157288050
Very cool fanfic, my man.

>>157288334
Maybe when he looks like Ging

HOLY SHIT , TRUNKS NEVER DEFEATED FRIEZA.

HE CAME BACK TO LIFE.

>>157286739
You don't even have an argument in the first place. You're just going against the manga and Togashi and making up your own version of the fight. In other words, fanfiction.

>>157288050
>Other teleportation skills' limits have no bearing on Chrollo's
Says the guy arguing against the author.

>>157288050
>Check ! = checkmate.
Just because you say checkmate doesn't make it right.
>Hisoka did not lose because he is not dead
Chrollo killed Hisoka , he was literally dead.
He probably was dead for like an hour untill he got revived.
>But he enacted the mechanism to revive him
He ordered his nen a task , which it did after he died.
>Chrolla undeviably walked away prematurely in an unfinished fight to the death.
It was finished , Hisoka was dead.
>It being Togashi's story has nothing to do with Togashi's lack of logic when he made that statement.
The writer is always right , no matter what you think. What the writer says and writes is 100% canon.

First i thought you were bait , but now i realise you're just really autistic.

>>157288050
Hisoka using nen after death doesn't mean he didn't lose the fight.
Chrollo won the battle not the war, why can't you except this.

>but he enacted the mechanism to revive him during the fight.
He literally did this because he accepted he lost.

>>157289294
>except
accept*

>>157288050
This is embarrassing.

Apparently Hisoka had some backup plan to defeat Chrollo after he got his ass handed to him which included his resuscitation done out of desperation.

Oh, b-but that coward Chrollo walked off before it was set in motion. That's what happened! A-And Togashi's an idiot for not realizing that!

Pathetic, the lengths people would go to defend thier pet clownie's asswhooping

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>>157288629
No, I'm using the hints Togashi deliberately dropped the craft a theory. You're ignoring those and calling them headcanon.

>>157289189
>Just because you say checkmate doesn't make it right.

But the fact that the analogy works logically does.

>Chrollo killed Hisoka

No, if Chrollo killed Hisoka he would still be dead. Chrollo put Hisoka in a state that would be scientifically deemed dead, but since he prepared beforehand to come out of that state it can't be said that he was killed.

>The writer is always right , no matter what you think. What the writer says and writes is 100% canon.

This is untrue, if Togashi or any author said something that contradicts what they wrote, you would use the actual published writing over the author's words always. But regardless, this has nothing to do with canonicity, it's just Togashi making a logical mistake when he said Hisoka lost.

>>157289294
>He literally did this because he accepted he lost.

No, he realized he would lose if he did not do that, and thus did that to prevent his death.

>>157289541
I never said anything about a back up plan, all I said was that he deliberately prevented his death before he died, and thus was not truly killed, which would be a win state for Chrollo.