JAP CREATORS GET PEANUTS FROM OVERSEAS LICENSES

>buying anime
>buying porn

And water is wet.

It won't stop retards from renewing their CR subscription
Instead of importing.

What do you mean popular?
Who the fuck is that?

everyone who isn't an idiot knew that
cr/funi/amazon/etc all pocket most money from us licenses not mention ad revenue
by the end of it the original creators/studios/etc get shit
shitty middle men with shitty quality, translations, and drm need to die already
inb4 shills

Slowpoke.jpg

Everyone already knows this

Literally who.

>>157221712
>japs get offered a shit deal
>they accept it
really makes you think

How many of fuckos don't just get a couple of weebs to make a subbed version, i doubt it'd be hard to find some french/spanish and english speaking fuckos to piece it all together.

>>157221620
It wouldn't be all moeshit if you'd actually buy good stuff.

who cares
If the japs dont make money, they should get a real job

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>>157221697
>>157221786
>not knowing
wew, it was like 3 weeks ago.

>>157221561
Everyone knows that except delusional funi or crunchy shills.

>>157221892
Sorry I dont give a shit about your retarded memes.
That art looks horrible by the way

>>157221853
But I want it to keep being moeshit.

Are there independant studios that sell subbed versions directly to costumer? i know plenty of hentai artists that offer an english version as well.

It seemed like a logical way to take advantage of the internet.

>>157221892
So its just some shitty fat porn?
Why is it a big deal?

>>157221561
It's kind of retarded how it's literally impossible to actually support the animation studios that make our precious animu.

>streaming only supports they jew companies like shittyroll and funishit
>buying cheap bd's only supports jew companies like funishit
>importing bd's only supports jew companies that produce the shows
>buying merch only supports jew companies that produce the merch and the shows

Literally impossible to actually give my anime to the poor animators in Japan, so I just keep my money or spend it on imported mangos.

>>157221892
waaaaait a fucking second, those are the guys that did ladies vs buttlers right?, they did a hentai?, for fucking real?, please tell me its real, those girls always send the right signals to my dick

>>157221989
*give my money, eh fuck it

>>157221990
The artist, not the animation studio.

>>157221989
sealed envelope mailed directly to authors and studios.

>>157221796
Japs don't know anything about western market, funimation and other jews are the only ones who can "help" poor japanese creators.

>>157221985
I don't even know why you post in this thread, anon. Are you that bored?

>>157221561
BDs are ridiculously expensive when it comes to anime.
Importing them costs about 1/6 to 1/5 of the price in shipping alone.
Next you have to pay customs for both combined which increases it by 20% again.

No thanks. Make importing stuff easier and I'll support it if I like it.

Same goes for manga.
A single volume is like 5€, and insured shipping to Europe for it is 7~9€. If I choose cheaper shipping without tracking it will never arrive.
Why would I pay more for shipping than for the merchandise itself?
And if it goes above 25€ I need to pay fucking customs again.

In the end, I just hope they get enough for Japanese digitally purchased manga/LN which is all I'm willing to pay as long as internation shipping sucks balls.

Talk to /biz/ about starting your own licensing agency. Clover Studios.

>>157221989
I would support them if they got a patreon or some shit but I only know like 2 mangakas that do. I heard its looked down upon to get donations like that over there so they don't do it

>>157222164
>The janitor finds it and steals it.

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>>157221989
This makes me thing is there an anime studio as strong and with as much variety like say HBO to be a giant cunt and release an streaming service exclusively of their content?

Like HBO GO, is any of them powerful enough to set up something like this?

>>157221561
The problems with overseas licensing and making it economical comparing to how much elevens waste on stuff are just hilarious at this point and hard to even feel bad about.

>>157222216
To reply to OPs points about distribution?
I had no idea this as about some crappy hentai but thats not what the thread is really about

>>157222244
>I heard its looked down upon to get donations

Why are japs so proudly retarded bros?

>>157222253
You're going to convince Japanese business men and their ingrained hatred of the western market and new technological advancements. Just look at how Jap video game publishers treat YouTube and twitch.

>>157222273
>but thats not what the thread is really about
then why the fuck you asked about that in the first place, is like you enjoy to play retarded or something

>>157222325
Handout dishonorabre

>>157222366
To know about something I didnt know of before?
You are the only retard here.

>>157222238
How to run a business with a hivemind-like anonymous structure?

>>157222395
>no u
just stop, anon

>>157221989
Agreed, the jew bullshit has to fucking stop. They need to start paying the animators properly.

>>157222484
That wasnt a "no u", you asked why would I ask about something I dont know about
You are fucking retarded

>>157221561
But they're getting peanuts so it's not that bad. Peanuts taste great

>>157222493
Any sort of profit will immediately vanish and studios will fold at an alarming rate.

>>157222493
At this rate most of the active talent is either going to get the fuck out because of the conditions, get old and retire, die from overworking, go crazy. And then there won't be enough new talent coming in leading to quite a shit scenario, it's already a problem.

>>157222484
you really are a fucking retard

>>157222325
Accepting donations for something like manga is a shameful behavior, it makes you into nothing but a parasite unable to produce anything of value. The first and most important duty of every human being is to produce enough valuable work to sustain and continue human society when they can, if you are receiving donations for what you call your "work" then you aren't producing like you should. Every work needs to be done under the guidelines and standards of the human society, receiving donations go against that and poison our society's future.

>>157221664
>Instead of importing.
>A bluray volume cost 40-80 $
>Just 2 to 4 episodes per volume
>Complete series cost 250+ $
Yeah just fuck off

>>157222648
It's not like importing will actually do jack shit.
>>157221989

>>157221561
It fucking sucks to sell shit at the west, most people think they are entitled to your game/show/product and whine like the little socialist bitches they area.

The company where I work was on the verge of breaking before we started getting stuff translated into Chinese.

>>157222544
you asked your answer, you already knew, there was no need to ask the question.
>>157222617
don't need to samefag tho, just stop replying

>>157222716
Sekai Project?

>>157222253
You can't even order HBO Go. You have to have a cable subscription, and then add HBO onto that.

>>157221853
Fuck off /v/ermin.

Does anyone else buy the Japanese versions of manga/lns they read fan translations of? Even when they get localised, I still get them in moon.

>barely any money for a car goes to the robots that actually made it
that's why I download all my cars

i'm not against people trying to earn a living, but directly asking money for drawings and pasting logos everywhere kills it for me

>>157222919
>tfw China is getting more money in the industry than the west.
Why are whites such a useless race? It seems they can only get good results by raping.

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The title made me think they got the rights to male a peanuts anime>>157221712

>ywn be a multi-billionaire that will turn the anime industry upside down by funding pet projects with inordinate amounts of money with no care in the world for profits

>choose titles you love or ones that you know would never have a chance of getting greenlit given the industry's limitations
>ghibli-level and consistent animation for a series from beginning to end and multi-cours
>stream for free and sell physical copies at reasonable prices

>>157222841
actually you can get it without cable, it's called hbo now

>>157223177
You and I have similar dreams, anon.

>>157223187
oh, thanks for the info, not like I'm giving money to the people who sent their actors to Europe to interview the poor refugees in the camps with 6 kids apiece, they released like 10 videos of their actors over there showing how poor and not military-aged men these refugees are

>>157221712
>pocket most money
>utterly ignorant of U.S. anime industry

Typical anon

Honestly I wish I knew how to become a US license holder. As long as I could make enough money to pay rent, I would not really care about the rest. The actual costs can't be much I imagine, its just the other companies have such a monopoly.

BD manufacturing is cheap, do batch runs that you drop ship and you can cut down on the staff you need too.

I just wish I had the connections to try and bring an anime stateside. Like, I bought classroom crisis in japan when I was just there because it's been two years. This shit should not take this long. Hell, you don't even need a dub as most of the obscure stuff is sold to neckbeards like /a/ anyway.

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>>157223177

Why couldn't Travis Knight have fallen in love with Anime instead of stop motion?

>>157223177
I actually thought about this before.

It's fun to dream.

>>157223299
>The actual costs can't be much I imagine

Flying to and from Japan is very expensive, so is advertising, so is the actual process of localizing the media. It's not feasible to burn 1000+ DVDs on your home computer for mass release.

>>157223308
>>157223318
>>157223216
The issue with the dream would be the inability of a westerner to break into the market. Unless there are examples of this that I don't know about. Netflix seems to be the only company that is attempting to break in, if only slightly.

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>>157221561
I'm gonna make you an offer: 20 thousand but for 70% of the company. I'll do the inventory and distribution cuz you are gonna need a lot of help.

*boom-boom*

>>157223395
It's a good first step

>>157223360
If I already had the contacts why would I need to fly to japan, commercial disk manufacturing is hilariously cheap. I can do 1000 disks for a buck fifty each, and that's shipped.

Advertising is probably the most expensive aspect of it all. Localization; I imagine I could find some fansub groups willing to sell their localization to start and go from there.

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>>157222919
True. At least the asian ones don't push cultural marxism and make sjws.

>>157223395

If you were a multi-billionaire and genuinely didn't care about profits, you could break into the market with just the power of your money, because that is ultimately what matters the most. An anime costs several millions to make? Hell, you could just drop 50 million for your first project to get you into the door, and people would be begging you to get involved. Netflix is a traditional company that is still trying to make profits, but with that kind of money you're not constrained the same way they are.

And I would sell anime at ridiculously low prices, like entire seasons on BD for cheap, just to fuck over Japan and its current stupid "strategy" that only nets sales in the low thousands for even its most popular series.

>>157223484
>Localization; I imagine I could find some fansub groups willing to sell their localization

Why would anyone buy your disc when a fansubber already put it out months ago for free?

>If I already had the contacts why would I need to fly to japan

How do you intend to "get" contacts?

What's wrong with just buying it on dlsite?

>>157221892
I've been away for a while, how should I search this in the archive to know more?

>>157223629
>Why would anyone buy your disc when a fansubber already put it out months ago for free?
Why would anyone buy BD's when they just recorded it on tv months ago for free?

>How do you intend to "get" contacts?
I was operating under this premise:
>I just wish I had the connections to try and bring an anime stateside.

don't worry lads, gonna buy the state run oil industry from my country and fund spice and wolf season 3 asap

>>157221561
The Internet Fucking Exists, Market Directly to your Fans.

????

>>157223571
>And I would sell anime at ridiculously low prices, like entire seasons on BD for cheap, just to fuck over Japan and its current stupid "strategy" that only nets sales in the low thousands for even its most popular series.

So this is actually interesting stuff, depending on who you work with, unless you throw around the "fuck you" levels of money, might not give you a license because they worry about reverse importing, meaning all the japs buy the cheap USA releases.

>>157222325
See heres the thing. On one hand, you have the western arts market using Patreon and look at its current state. Its the most parasitic and manipulative system ever, the pure nature of "helping out and assissting artists becomes more of a market to leech out on their fanbase"

So you have Japan which DOES NOT DO patreon, but that means they generally "retain their integrity" to "do first, profit next; NOT VICE VERSA"

So I do want them to do donations but if they spiral the same way the western system does, it becomes completely pointless.

Why not use kickstarter, it worked for LWA

>>157223177
We can only fucking dream.

>>157223817
>worked

Even if there was a way to directly contribute to an anime studio, none of you fuckos would do anything.

>>157223849
I have disposable income. Not EVERYONE on this board is a NEET. Also, if they follow a model like free to play games, all they need is a few whales.

>>157223709
>I just wish I had the connections to try and bring an anime stateside.

Nobody in the industry would be willing to deal with some guy on the internet that they never saw in person. Even the smaller operations like AnimEigo had at least one guy whose job it was to go to Japan and meet people in person to try and get licensing contracts.

>tfw can't throw 3k us dollars at my favorite artist so he go back to futa on futa.

>>157222635
>The first and most important duty of every human being is to produce enough valuable work to sustain and continue human society when they can
nice meme

>>157224188
Why live?

>>157224392
i'm tired of these 3 inch shota dicks fucking my futas
end my suffering
at least chinbotsu didn't went for the shota meme god bless

>>157223668
Sites like DLsite cuts a large percentage from the sales. IIRC the creator of teaching feeling or some other guy recommended his fans to buy directly from him on his blog rather than on DLsite.

>giving away your money

Why are people in this thread blaming CR etc.? In OP's scenario it sounds more like the local distributor is to blame for forcing the deal to go through one of those, and taking a cut on top of the foreign distributor's cut.

Which, if true, was probably in the contract that the creators initially signed, so they're still fucking themselves either way.

>>157222648
You could but a single bluray volume a year and contribute way more than with a CR subscription.

>>157225133
Because CR and Amazon and the others do exactly the same thing with what comes into their hands? Which makes the spread even smaller in profit for the artist.

But hey, if you want to believe (((CR))) that they distribute well back to the author (but haha they're not going to tell you any numeric figures or percentages or anything because "We assure you, they are compensated well :P"), then by all means live in that naive world.

>>157221664
>Instead of importing
Why would someone want to give their money to the propagandists at "cool japan"?

>>157222235
The only good way to import manga is to buy complete sets from amazon.jp. Counts as one item so you pay about 11€ shipping to Europe for a whole series.

>>157225365
>Dat Delusion
see
>>157221989

No shit.
This has been the case since forever, CR pays fuck all and has a garbage translation with the handful of translators left after they fired all the competent ones last year with intentionally bad encoding. They pay literally no percentage back, there is no revenue sharing, they pay for an abysmally low license and that's fucking it. Giving money to CR is supporting the anime industry in the same way that giving a penny to a hobo is supporting the Iranian heroin industry, it isn't. The only thing you're giving money to is a zionist and some youtube e-celebs.
The only way to support an author is to import tankobons (especially self published ones like Gomenasai's) and magazines, or give to artist crowdfunding platforms that a few of them have started jumping on to.

>>157225466
Okay, putting aside the fact that almost no publisher of any media talks publicly about how much they pay creators, why do you believe they wouldn't be paying studios what the studios agreed to be paid?

>>157225578
>>157221989
>that produce the show
You know that production companies in Japan are the creative side most of the time more than studios right?
The vast majority of the talent is actually on the production company's staff and not the studio, which is paid a rate or percentage to create part of the product but it still belongs to the production company which makes the profit.

>>157225696
They have refused in the past to host anime that won't agree to their rates you know, Yama no Susume S2 was dropped because Earth Star wanted a fair cut, the majority of companies view overseas sales as a total loss and CR gives them a few thousand dollars that is seen as better than nothing. Virtually none of the money through them actually filters back to anyone in Japan.

>>157222342
The company behind AI-chan clearly have a grasp of that stuff.

>>157225895
>The company behind AI-chan
are they a company? I thought they would be just a few people

>>157221561
This happens with all forms of media from creators, this isn't a new thing just for the anime market.

>>157221892
Ah That? Oh shit Should hurry up

>>157226044
Yeah I guess they could be, but I had just assumed it was some kind of production company given how quickly it took off and how it was geared towards commercialisation from the start. Things like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sotd7_PI1gI also seem a bit much for a rag tag bunch of people.

>>157223177
I have this dream too. Sometimes I wish I could just buy 1000 BDs of a niche show I like just to make a splash in the stalker points. Then I would sell them to anons as a "pay what you want" deal.

>>157224155
Yeah, that's why it was a wish.

Honestly it would be better to hire someone living in Japan so that negotiations are not dictated by a travel schedule at all.

What about licensed Manga?
am I killing the industry?

>>157225878
>The vast majority of the talent is actually on the production company's staff and not the studio
What are you even trying to say? Often someone like a director, writer or character designer might be hired to make the show directly by the production committee rather than being someone at the studio that is eventually hired but the vast majority of work that goes into creating anime will be done by people working in and for studios wether in house staff or freelance or subcontracted outside studios.

>>157223765
He's talking about selling the anime his company is producing entirely in-house, anon. Not buying licenses to existing anime series.

>>157227339
Perhaps the majority of the actual animation, even then often they outsource to koreans, but even then usually the production company keeps the people who make the decisions on their own staff, other than that almost everyone involved is a member of the production company or one of the other companies they hired to do that specific part.

>>157221561
It's nothing new that the author gets small percentage while the sales and distribution eat up most of the profits.
A book author will make around 5% from each sale.
http://www.mackcollier.com/so-how-much-money-will-you-make-from-writing-a-book/

>>157225657
>same way that giving a penny to a hobo is supporting the Iranian heroin industry, it isn't

I've been gypped this whole time.

>>157227319
I wanna know this too.

>>157227528
You've a really odd conception of how these things work. The way you talk about "the production company" too is really odd. The majority of anime are funded by a whole host of companies who will all be credited with production ranging from video disc publisher, music companies and manga publisher to TV stations. The studio is hired to handle animation production, sure the producers involved will have input and influence over the direction and the content of the series but to make out as if a studio is just a place where people mindlessly animate whatever they're told is just a complete misconception. The fact that you're also talking about outsourcing to Korean studios as if it's a massive thing is also misleading it's nowhere near normal for KA to be outsourced to any company outside of Japan if anything it's usually just clean up work. Unless it's one of those companies with sub studios they work with specifically in other countries like Toei.

Just support anime originals done by the studios, that's how kyoani got so big.

>>157227799
Most of the time studios aren't even on the production committee for their own originals.

>>157225696
>studios
>paid
What did he mean by this?

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Why anime depends so much of DVD blu ray sales, why they dont get ad revenue?
>animes are show very late night or go direct to video

Ok then why not make the content a little more adecuate for general audiences, less sexualized children could be a good start

>>157221561
This is what I torrent and buy merch/mango instead. The creators get basically nothing from those streaming services, much less than from merch,etc.

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Why don't the artists/studios just make a paypal and link it on their website/twitter?
I shouldn't have to try this hard to give my money away to the right people.

I'm okay with paying via Patreon and getting a digital version directly from the creators themselves. Fuck all the middlemen like publishers, retailers, shipping, custom and sale tax.

>>157221561
that's what they get for not doing it themselves

>>157228066
>Why anime depends so much of DVD blu ray sales
Because those are pretty much their pay checks.
>less sexualized children could be a good start
You're just a faggot, no one wants to cater to you.

>>157228066
It's called streaming.

>why not make the content a little more adecuate for general audiences, less sexualized children could be a good start

>>>/co/

>>157228131
The reason production committees exist is so that studios don't go bust everytime their anime flops (most of the time). If it wasn't set up this way you'd see even less original or experimental work and even more "sure fire" success derivative work. Production Committees insulate small companies like studios from the risk of financial failure and have multiple bigger companies funding the show such that it doesn't really matter to then if 9 out of 10 shows they fund flop because they'll more than make up the loses on show 10 that's a hit.

Sure it makes it harder for studios to really profit from their work but it also insures them against the very real financial risks of going it alone. Not to mention the fact that if people like TV stations, publishers and music studios weren't funding the show the studio would need to either need to learn to and pay for all the facilities to do those things or pay companies to do them.

>>157221561
That dude preaching he can help sell the license has 150 followers on Twitter how does that make him any Relevant or seem like hes a Real legitimate business.

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>>157222244
Chinbotsu has a pretty good Patreon. He mentioned one of the reasons he started it was because his style tended to be out of favor in Japan.

>>157228131
Accepting donation is shamfur dispray in Japanese culture.

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>tl,dr jap creators are moron that dont know how to negotiate or are too stuborn/proud.

From now on wont fell guilty by either pirating or Crunchy roll. If they wanna starve, let them starve.

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>>157223817
I've been wondering lately if there are enough weebs to get a season 2 of Watamote funded via Kickstarter.

>>157228568
Everything is a shamfur dispray on getting donations for your work. They can all kiss ass and fuck off while this guy gets donations and become successful in the next 5-10 years.

>>157228066
>image
>normalfag tier post

>>157228616
Honestly most of the anti-CR posting on /a/ seems very exaggerated. It's like the people claiming they contribute nothing to anime production don't realise that they're actually more and more getting on production committees nowadays. Sure if you're paying $5 for a CR subscription you're not going to be personally "saving anime" with that but pretending like millions of subscribers collectively contribute nothing at all is just as ridiculous and seems to me to reflect more of a hatred of the company and the kind of fandom it's associated with and promotes more so than anything.

>>157228066
>Ok then why not make the content a little more adecuate for general audiences, less sexualized children could be a good start


Tons of shows like that already exist such as Doraemon, Dragon Ball, Chibi Maruko-chan, etc. These shows make them money to a certain extent, but it's not what otaku will spend all of their cash on.

>>157222325
Is there a way to send physical goods to them?

>>157228530
god i love him and his art
shame no one else does futa on futa anymore like he does
god bless rebis knowing english to save him from an eventual life as a salaryman

>>157228861
>Tfw i'll never be able to send some canned goods to Misukami Satoshi.

>>157221989
Fucking Jews ruining anime

>>157221561
>tfw me not pirating was all for nothing
well fuck

>>157228958
If it wasn't for those Jews (the Japanese ones) you'd probably see a season with hardly any titles at all most of the time from the few studios that don't go out of business immediately. Then they'd probably only be adapting super popular manga or LN that are guaranteed to sell.

>>157221989
Let's also not forget some publishers that blatantly block overseas people from buying anything released by them (like what happened with Yuri on Ice)

>>157221892
>straight shota
I really do want to support him but not this garbage.

>>157222493
>the jews need to stop being jews!
It's time to stop

>people think the creator is going to get a huge chunk of the profit

I don't know why anyone expects that because an artist makes something the studio won't get the biggest chunk of the pie. This isn't anything new in any form of media, authors always get the crap end of the deal unless their stuff is star wars level good. This has nothing to do with "muh western audience" and everything to do with how the industry works

This is why you read the manga.

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Do people not realise most studio's get their money already from committee.

The actual studio people aren't waiting on any money it's the committee people at the top

>>157221561
ohhhhhh
i thought you meant like charlie brown
what would a peanuts anime be like? would lucy be more tsundere?

>>157229160
The Jewish people have historically been trustworthy people. This recent uptick in not so good behavior is an anomaly.

>>157228066
>why not make the content a little more adecuate for general audiences
But there are. You're just not looking hard enough (or at all, for that matter).

>>157229050
Not him, but I thought there were very little to no Jews in Japan.

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>>157229245

Even if 1000 anons decided to buy the BD of a specific show, it wouldn't affect the Oricon rankings at all since they don't count imported sales.

>>157229192
Studios don't even get paid in anime. Usually they are contractors working for publishing houses, TV stations, BD publishers and Music studios or games companies who take the profits and use anime to advertise their products. But you are right in general. The creative talent almost never gets paid what they deserve unless they're such a big name they have the power.

>>157225578
Paying the jews who prodice the shows is doing more than paying CR.

>>157229307
I think you mean studios don't receive a bigger cut because an anime was successful, not that they don't get paid.

>>157229252
Follow the reply chain back. I am talking about the big Japanese companies that pay studios to make anime. Not literal Jews.

>>157229344
I thought that was implied. As in "don't even get paid"...when things get big/paid fairly. Never mind either way you've understood my meaning.

>>157221892
What's the title for this?

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>JAP CREATORS GET PEANUTS FROM OVERSEAS LICENSES
Don't trick me you motherfucker, I thought I was getting an anime adaptation of Peanuts

Cant people just donate to studios they like?

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>thinking I'm EVER going to pay 60 bucks for a 2 episode box with 40 mins of entertainment

Literally only retards would throw money at that.

Fuck the anime TV industry. Manga is the only shit needed

>>157229510
It's easier to complain about the shit than do anything about it

>>157229464
Marcie is best girl or bestest girl?

>>157229561
You're thinking about it the wrong way. To the people that do this they aren't buying a product. It's more like a donation to support something you care about with a really good free gift.

>>157229561
>want to get dvd/blu ray of favorite anime
>realize buying a dvd only gives me an episode or two
>40-60 dollars

meanwhile
>any show in the US
>60 dollars for the whole season

The one good thing about anime conventions is the fact that you can usually get shit stupid cheap used by vendors who have no idea what they are selling. Most "used" box sets are ind damn near close to new condition for like 20 bucks

>>157229687
>buying used
Just pirate?

if jap companies put crunchy subs on their blu rays, made them way cheaper, and flooded the western market with them, they wouldn't need middle men

>>157229731
Some of us like to collect stuff for our bookshelves and stuff

>>157229767
They'd never sell an equivalent product for significantly less because of potential reverse importation.

>>157228131
I'm glad they don't, because then people like you and gaijin in general would have an direct influence over the industry.

>>157229687
Breh even in the west its like 30 bucks for a whole season

>>157229876
>want to buy nichijou
SHIT

>>157229683
That's a nice way of convincing yourself you're not being robbed.

Do you know how much you're gonna give away when you want the full 24 episode season?

>>157229666
Asuka - Lucy
Rei - Marcie
Misato - Patty

>>157221561
Just going to be fair here but here is probably how costs are done:

1. Primary author
2. Primary artist (if different from author)
3. Publisher
4. Distributor
5. Advertisement
6. Merchandise
7. Studio Animators
8. Voice Acting Agencies
9. Foreign Distributors

Just from looking at this alone, there are many who end up looking for a cut of profit.
Each and every level have their own expenses to make their shit work and hence, they all want their money.

Since Crunchyroll gets close to what, 10 to 15 anime per season with some 2 to 5 long running anime happening alongside them, we can simply end up divvying up the costs they have to work with on server money.

I mean, I still remember forums right now that just host links needing money to survive with donations. CR has a whole system for video storage up to 1080p video upscales.

If the publishers and distributors have a whole shit to pay, I am not even sure that authors/primary IP holders can get something out of a $70 bluray.

Even without the foreign distributor, you have to divide up the $70 blu-ray 8 (EIGHT) ways. Obviously, foreign distributor money (licensing fees that are like what, 5 to 10 bucks per month) will also need to be divided up at least with the author/artist, studio, and publisher. That is if the author has any control of any money flow and the publisher hasn't already said they get a shit small amount of foreign licensing fees.

>>157228808
blame CR for the anti-CR crowd.

>>157223817
if by that you mean made an anime that extremely panders to the west instead of creating their own thing then okay

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What about Manga? Do they get a decent share? i can't import, since i'm a third worlder and shitty sites don't send stuff to far away for reasonable prices, so i'm stuck with American Amazon, ebay, and the ocasional local... localizations.

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>>157221561
Why doesn't he just use Alicebooks? It's one of the most popular sites among nips to sell doujinshi and has international shipping, I don't understand.

>>157228808
>they're actually more and more getting on production committees nowadays
They are? Which anime series?

Manga probably has an easier transition from fees to authors, but probably only for big-time mangaka. Don't large publishing companies keep most of the profits for themselves?

>>157229446

Dekinai.

>>157230143
How does Alicebooks work in storing supply? It probably only works for doujinshi because doujinshi aren't as thick as manga.

>>157222342
>>157225895
Compile Heart actively uses their YouTube channel for trailers and game openings. Nothing big, but they're doing something at least.

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THE ANIME BUBBLE IS BURSTING

SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL

If a tankobon i bought is 5 dollars how much does the origianla creators get for it?

>>157230348
can't burst something that barely breaks a 1b

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>>157223177
holy fuck are you me?

>>157221561

and that is why (just like the he said on twitter on your PICTURE) support him by buying from DLSITE

its the fucking age of the INTERNET, artists have patreon/enty/dlsite, buy their shit online, everyone wins.

>muh physical

stop living in in the 90s.

LIVING IN THE 90s

>>157221989
Buy merchandise, dumbass.
That's where a good partt of their money comes from nowadays

>>157230541
Good idea, where do i get my Me and The Devil Blues plushies?

>>157222635
>The first and most important duty of every human being is to produce enough valuable work to sustain and continue human society when they can, if you are receiving donations for what you call your "work" then you aren't producing like you should.
Flaw with this argument include
>vast surplus of food
>rising levels of automation
>rising levels of disposable income
At that point, production is dictated by consumer preference, not necessity, as all necessities are already met. Therefore services, especially entertainment, rise in demand and supply.

>>157223002
How much of it goes to the people who maintain said robots though

>>157230625
I have no idea of what that is. If you actually want to buy merchandise, there's a thread with a guide on how getting that stuff from Japan though
>>157180317

>>157229918
Some people are only casual fans of anime who don't want to support it. That's OK.

>>157230149
Space Patrol Luluco
Anne Happy
Kiznaiver
Nanbaka
Idol Incidents
Masamune-kun's Revenge
Kemono Friends

>>157230541
It really depends what merchandise you are buying for what series and from who and where you want your money to go. If its merchandise the studio is producing (probably not) then they will likely get quite a bit, other merchandise sales will be going to the merchandise manufacturer/production committee (this would support the show quite well if you only care about more getting made rather than specifically supporting a studio for example) or if the merchandiser isn't on the production committee then whoever has paid the production committee for a license to make that product.

>>157230735
Anything is better than giving more power to CR and any western company that can influence anime for that matter.

>>157230026
Sure, there are a lot of parties involved, but it can be done, I've often thought about what I would do if I had the money. It's not too difficult to imagine.

First, you're not looking to make huge amounts of money here, just trying to set up a way to help the anime industry, animators, etc. You take a cut just enough for your infrastructure, e.g. subbers, servers, etc, and pass on most money to the production committees of the shows, etc, and have them in turn divy it up.

You would need to set up a streaming service, that's going to be the primary source of income. All your work is subbed, ignore dubs. Or maybe have people pay more if they want am eventual dub release, if you can raise enough, go ahead and produce a dub, else refund the money. No overly literal localization's, and you provide the same quality fansubbers have been providing, i.e. typesetting, karaoke, etc. You would need to offer high quality streams on demand, 1080p, high bitrate, etc. And also offer drm-free downloads of the episodes, same high quality, for people who prefer local playback solutions, want to use things like madvr, etc. And then charge maybe $3 per show per month streaming, perhaps $3.50 if you download. First episode is always free, and a bundle price for all your shows, a sort of "support anime!" package that you split amongst all the shows. You would also sell BDs, maybe charge $60 for a physical season, fully subbed. $50 if you subscribed to the show. $50 for digital BDs, $45 if subbed to the show. This catalogue of streamed shows/physical BDs is available worldwide, Japan included.

where the fuck do i download hentai ovas now. i used to use mal to see who subbed what but appaently they dont have that anymore

>>157230888
cont.

I'm not willing to pay $250+ for the BDs of one season of a show, but I could definitely see paying around $60. I'm sure a lot of people would, thus you expand sales, make up for the loss in price per unit. And for sure your Japanese fans would be thrilled to pay 25% of what they pay now. Same goes for streaming. If I get high-quality downloads, like the things I get currently from a fansubber, that I can put through a localized playback solution, I've got no problem paying ~$14 for the run of the show.

Sure, with it being drm-free, rampant piracy. But that's there in any case, if you offer a quality product, people will pay.

All a pipe dream, but really do think a model like this would work. Not only would it help pay everyone in the industry more of a liveable wage, but it would attract more talent, allow more freedom in materials chosen to work on, and restrict the influence of money-laden outsiders, such as netflix, from having too large a say in what gets created and influencing content overall. Just a shame nobody with actual money is willing to try it.

>>157230896
dedicated h subs like erobeat or subdesu?

>>157230149
Forgot these:
Minami Kamakura High School Girls Cycling Club
Boku no Hero Academia S2

>>157230780
Crunchyroll are already as involved with anime production as you can get. To be honest they don't really seem to do anything though. They know what their customers want and most people who like anime like it because of its quirks regardless of a few SJW whiners. They still prominently advertise very "problematic" things like Love Tyrant which I have seen some people describe as a rape fantasy.

>>157231016
i have literally never heard of erobeat, ill bookmark that shit

and i knew i remembered a hentai subber like subdesu existed but couldnt remember the name. Feels like a dream from years ago. bakabt spoiled me

>everyone from overseas pirates
>"gaijin seem to love my work but my foreign sales are 0?"
>"DUDE NO PIRACY INCREASES REVENUE INDIRECTLY LMAO"

>>157231016
wait fuck

did they get rid of downloading from subdesu

now its some pay to stream for quality shit?

i hate life

The only reason I don't import is because the product get 50% more expensive here, if anything that also would not be a problem if it wasn't 2 episodes for each bd, it's almost ridiculous

You are not allowed to comment on the matter if you torrent/pirate your anime for free.

You sound like a bunch of fucking welfare queens screaming about how the gubbamint isn't giving you free things.

Your opinion is fucking invalidated on this subject off that premise alone.

>>157231165
Patreon welfare and Kikestarters show that there's the will.
I'm not saying it'd save the industry or anything crazy like that but there are plenty of artists that are letting a big oportunity go.

>>157231189
I think hentaihaven has all that bullshit in a stream format but you can download from them too.

>>157230938
Nothing will change in Japanese animation around working conditions until something is done about the production committee system. That's where the real problem is. It isn't a lack of cash coming into the industry but the the companies funding anime production and the approach they take.

For example if you give anime production companies $10m they might be able to make 3 or 4 shows. If you give them $20m they won't say "lets make those 3 or 4 shows much better" they will say "great now we can make 10 shows of the same quality and spread our risk even more". More money doesn't increase the budgets or the pay of workers.

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>>157231203
Read the thread fucko, then delete your comment after realizing how embarasingly out of topic you are.

>>157231165
There isn't even any way to tell if foreign sales of anime happen or not from the outside. Unless the publisher tells you. Oricon doesn't report sales to foreigners.

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>>157231203
Read the fucking thread.

>>157231017
You're talking about Renai Boukun, right? What type of faggot would claim it's a rape fantasy? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but when I read the manga, it was just a fun supernatural harem. Pretty far behind in the manga, and haven't bothered watching the anime yet, but these type of chucklefucks from places like tumblr gaining more of a voice are the only thing I can see happening if groups like netflix and amazon get more of an influence.

>>157231203
And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

>>157231376
For the most part the reason companies like Netflix and Amazon are investing in anime for is to try to get more people using their streaming services in Japan where nobody at all uses them, not to get more westerner's using them.

>>157231292
That's probably true, honestly, the number of shows produced each season could be cut 20%, just to not overwork the animators. Again then, I suppose the streaming system could still work, nothing wrong with more money coming in, you would just have to have studios either work on more original projects, part of the "more freedom" aspect of having more money coming in to you, and have studios work more closely/directly with right holders, try and cut out middle-men.

>>157231429
Sure, that may be the intention. Just think there will be a consequence to it. Don't think netflix would be willing to fund something like Yosuga no Sora, but if they offer 3x more money to adapt something else, which one is the studio going to pick? And even then, they may tone down/remove certain things even in what they do adapt, more so then the amounts they do already.

>>157231511
Back when production committees weren't really a thing in the early 90s you probably got as many TV anime in year as we do in half a season. A big part of the reason those middlemen and companies that fund anime are there is that they insure the studios against having to face bankruptcy and financial loss if one of their shows flops. If anything I think getting rid of the production committee system might lead to a reduction of creative freedom and variety as studios themselves become more exposed to risk and have to stick to safe projects like big manga series or LNs. Nobody is going to risk an original with no existing fanbase if it might mean their whole business goes under.

>>157231597
No I don't think they would adapt something like that but then again I also don't think that Netflix is going to fund all anime production. If there is sufficient demand for a project to make it viable within Japan like there always has been Netflix being in the market shouldn't prevent that from happening. They aren't going to hire every studio in Japan. Every project they've made so far they've been completely hands off with too. Despite being rumoured to have paid enough for licenses to fund whole shows and actually being credited as an Executive Producer on LWA without being on the Production Committee.

>>157231633
Get what you're saying about insuring against risk, but they certainly could be less involved parties. Plus, if you do expand potential sources of income, you become less vulnerable to one flop tanking your entire company.

>>157231722
You're right about how they've operated so far, just hope it stays that way.

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>>157221561
This is a good thing. It means it's an after through and not incentivised. Western money should NEVER start to influence anime.
Just look at what happened to Trigger.

>>157222187
Bullshit they don't. If they didn't, then why is Aniplex successful? Sunrise also was in it and chose to get out, then come back smaller.

>>157223177
>ywn be a multi billionaire

Why not start mining bitcoins then you lazy faggot?

its all your fault.

>>157232566
>Just look at what happened to Trigger.
Nothing?

>>157233080
It's fucking trash, is what it is.

>>157233125
So, nothing.

>>157233019
no it's all your fault

>>157221561
>falling for the licensing meme
Everybody knows (((they))) make most of the money.

However, we have the internet now, cutting out the middleman. If these Jap creators could find a way to get their content directly to overseas fans then there'd be no need for them. Hence, why they try so hard to put down the internet with a bunch of trade laws, they know they're losing money as creators can now interact directly with fans.

>>157234063
Jap "creators" don't own what they produce.

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>>157222244
>>157222325
Some Japanese doujin authors use this patreon similar site
https://enty.jp/en/asanagi
And some artists like sayori uses pixiv

>>157231203
There's nothing wrong with welfare faggot.
How else are we supposed to live with cheap immigrants and machines taking all the jobs.

>>157234672
By being educated and having skills.

>>157221561
Why is this shit getting so much attention here, it's not even really that amazing. The sensei isn't that attractive, the kid is an ugly and annoying little shit, and she even fucking cries at one point, like emotionally, not sexually. Believe me, I wanted to fap hard to this shit, but I just couldn't. I'll stick to the Hasshaku-san episode of Toshi Densetsu instead.

>>157221620
>>157221853
Both of you get the fuck out of here.

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>>157225466
CR always says that exactly 50% go back directly to japan. Most likely to their faggot there that negotiates with the publishers.

>>157232420
Replying to yourself on how you made an off topic post makes you wrong.

>>157232666
You make a good point, Satan

>>157229329
>Still having this delusion
Whatever makes you sleep at night

>>157229561
Buy merch instead, or just buy the BDs thinking on it as a donation rather than buying.

>>157222253
Hbo original anime when?

>>157222841
Hbo now is the app you use.

>>157222244
I don think it's a matter of being looked down on, just a logistical nightmare.
Tattun mentioned a few months ago running the idea of a Patreon by the higherups at Trigger, and thry considered it, but then decided not to because they couldn't find a practical way to split the donations between everyone's salaries.
Makes sense, I guess. What's a fair way to decide who gets how much? Who gets to decide? It's not easy.

>>157230149
Kabaneri.

>>157231511
The industry could definitely benefit from less anime around.

>>157221796
CR just can't be ignored at this point.

>>157222325
>defend begging
>call people retarded

>>157222342
Not only anime industry works too differently but this has nothing to do with foreign market you dumb narrow-minded Amerilard.

>>157221561
Main Production Company (Sony) pays their Production Committee (Aniplex) big bucks to create anime

Production Committee (Aniplex) pays Publisher (Kodansha) for license of manga (Prisma Illya) to be adapted to anime season 1
Publisher (Kodansha) pays author (Hiroyama) his cut
Author (Hiroyama) pays original universe author (Nasu) his cut

Production Committee (Aniplex) pays animation studio (Silver Link) to create anime
Sponsors (Coke, Nissin, whatever) pay Main Production Company (Sony) to feature their ads during their timeslot

Production Company (Aniplex) pays Printing Company to print the BDs
BD sales goes directly to Main Production Company (Sony)
Foreign Licensing Company (Crunchy Roll) pays Main Production Company (Sony) for usage of their licensed anime for broadcast

Production companies already fucking paid everyone down the line.
Any profits after that goes directly to them.

You support the author by buying the BDs because BD sales dictates if Sony will pay the author again for a second season, not because the money you used to buy those BDs goes to the author themselves.

You support the author by buying the manga because manga sales dictates if Kodansha will pay the author again for the next volume instead of cancelling the series, not because the money you used to buy those manga volumes goes to the author themselves.

Learn how companies and funding works.

>/a/ - Business & Economy

>>157228357
>The reason production committees exist is so that studios don't go bust everytime their anime flops (most of the time).

>Sure it makes it harder for studios to really profit from their work but it also insures them against the very real financial risks of going it alone.

If only more people understood the ideas of minimizing risks...

Difficult when a lot of people talk about profit sharing and stuff

>>157229464
They'd turn it into moeshit.

>>157230222
Trips confirms. Thanks.

I'm a jobless NEET as of now.

If I was working I'd buy a shit ton of manga and figs.

>>157234779
Not the other guy, but it's not that simple anymore.
Outsourcing and global labor competition means that even if immigration didn't occur, there are still cheaper sources of labor with similar education and skill levels.
Sooner or later, large corporations and governments will have to deal with massive electorates that have no jobs or really poor paying jobs.

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>>157222325
As a person who has adamantly followed all his favorite western porn artists (most were furry) at one point I have to say it:
When it comes to porn, Patreon is the biggest fucking cancer ever. It is nothing but the most autistic of retards paying to their favorite artists to sit on their asses and do nothing.
Incase is literally the only patreon porn artists who actually works hard (and there is no paywall on his stuff anyways) whilst other shit out a single page per week or two and fill up the remaining content with whopping 2 hours worth of "sketches".

It is despicable and you are a literal retard for paying those assholes 5-10 bucks per month or, god for bid, per term when you could order physical copies of doujins and tankoubons with literal hundred times more content for the same money.

I really fucking wish Patreon would just die. It would be for the better of everyone except for a bunch of lazy assholes who would refuse to adapt and start actually working and attempt to actually sell their stuff.

>>157238143
Jew Detected

so how could one make money off of this problem? Surely there is a better way than the crunchyroll jewish route, or the aniplex route.

>>157238695
Read >>157236478

They are already making money. Just keep paying corporations that fund them, so they can keep getting paid.

>>157235042
>Paying a production studio directly doesn't have a significant impact
Are you retarded? You realize BD/merchandise sales factor into production, right? More than any random streaming service that gives pennies and has no metric for tracking direct interest. There's a reason Japan caters to its home audience instead of to foreign audiences save for few exceptions. I have absolutely no idea how you managed to come to such a misinformed conclusion.

>>157238695
What the other anon replied to you, but if that doesn't do it for you then import mangos/source material and merch if you don't want to give money to CR or any localizers.

>>157221561
1. Translate to english with subs.
2. Sell it at DLsite or directly from your site.
3. ?????
4. PROFIT!

Whew, it was hard!

>>157222235
>If I choose cheaper shipping without tracking it will never arrive.
I've SALed plenty of packages to europe without any getting lost. And some amazon.jp seller shipped mangos in padded envelopes, they arrived intact.

>>157221561
>saying this like it is news
Money goes to the publishers, who often fund anime.

>>157221989
>how it's literally impossible to actually support the animation studios
only buy shows without a huge money-sucking production commitee

>>157239063
If you work under a company, you get paid everyday for just going to work.
Once your product is done, they promote and sell it, then keep the profits because they already paid you.
If the product flops, the company loses money. Not you.
If the product sells and make profit for the company, they hire you again to work on the next title.
If your products keep gaining momentum, they'll give you an even bigger project to work on and promote your work nationwide.

If you work alone, you work everyday for free.
Once your product is done, you sell it to a niche market like DLSite.
Since you aren't a known company or brand, nationwide retailers will most likely not pickup your product.
You get a huge cut of what you sell, if it sells anything at all.
If it flops, you get no money at all which means you wasted all those time making it.
Then you blame piracy why you didn't make any money.

Looks like you don't know how this works.

>>157223571
desu, hoping to do this. multi-billions less $5k of dollars to go.

>>157238859
You gave to go back.

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>>157239265
You are oversimplifying it. Not everything is funded and owned by publishers. Production companies can often retain the rights for their own products while being funded from the outside sources in exchange for a revenue.

There is a whole spectrum between things you have described and proper self-publishing and neither you nor anyone in this thread including me knows where exactly Misaki-san lies on it.

>>157221853
>It wouldn't be all moeshit
Where do retarded newfags always get this idea from?
Is there some alternate anime universe where the only thing that airs are nice SoLs with cute girls? And if it exists how do I get there?

>>157221989
>>importing bd's only supports jew companies that produce the shows
That's always a bit of an silly argument, if the publisher makes a lot of money from something a studio produced then that studio becomes more valuable and can charge higher fees in the future.
If everything the studio touches ends with a total flop for the publisher, the studio will go under.

>>157229245
Yeah, I wonder why our greatest ally has such a long history of getting kicked out of every single country all over the globe throughout history.

>>157235042
Anon, are you brain damaged? Nobody in here is forcing you to pay for you anime, so you don't have to make up retarded shit to justify yourself.

>>157221796
For them it's probably getting nothing from overseas vs. getting peanuts from overseas.

>>157222395
No projecting, please.

>>157223177
>stream
Disgusting. I hope you stay poor forever.

>>157222164
Coincidentally, this is illegal, it violates their contracts.

>>157228066
Because you're an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about and needs to lurk more?

>>157223177
Yeah, nah. Look at kickstarter. Publishers and committees DO become more and more cancerous the bigger the industry grows but they are still a necessary evil.

If you, as a funding person, will not be willing to do their antagonizing job then you will just get a bunch of shitty overpriced projects that will get delayed for literal years past their deadlines.

>>157221561
I really like Bandcamp's business model

>High quality DRM free downloads
>Name your own price
>No bullshit contracts and licensing

Pretty much all media should be distributed this way.

Do we really care if some artists somewhere are poor? I mean its impossible to make any entertainment with lolis in the west and monetize it, why arent we crying how horrible it is to live in the west?

>>157224219
I wish it was a meme. Instead it's a shitty attitude engrained into most people that ultimately will hold back humanity.

>>157221561
Thought this was a Charlie Brown thread. I am sad.

>>157239947
For the same reason poor fucks living in shitholes like Cuba stay patriotic. It's a combination of stupidity and/or not knowing any better.

Actually, your statement is not even true since I've seen tons of people bitching about anti-loli laws both consumers and artists I know personally.

>>157222479
Use blockchain

>>157240007
Life expectancy in Cuba is better than in US of A, as is the food quality. Not having much money doesn't always transfer into poor life quality.

>>157240160
Whatever you say, papi

Eop tears

>>157223177
You'll never become a multi-billionaire with that mentality, anon.

>>157223177
>choose titles you love or ones that you know would never have a chance of getting greenlit given the industry's limitations
Enjoy bleeding money due your shitty tastes and limited understanding of the market.

>ghibli-level and consistent animation for a series from beginning to end and multi-cours
Waste of money that COULD work out.

>stream for free and sell physical copies at reasonable prices
If you combine the free streams with datamining ala FB, it should actually work.

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>love Shikishima GunTool
>love victorian maid, bought it on dlsite to support author
>get ultra hyped for his next hentai
>it's /ss/ aka shotashit
>not only that but shota doesn't even look good or cute, he looks like a fucking autist with bowlcut and thick nerd glasses
>this kills the boner
I would honestly pay him to never make that shit again and make victorian maid sequal or something

>>157238143
Lazy Artists are lazy.

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>>157238143
>As a person who has adamantly followed all his favorite western porn artists (most were furry)
no fucking wonder you have such a shit opinion of patreon, you fucking degenerate

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>>157221561
>op talks about japan in general
>picture talks about adult anime licenses

>business models of hentai and regular anime are the same

Holy shit, /a/ is retarded!

>>157221561
Yes, and? This is how licensing business works in general. do you really think it concerns only Japanese creators? Shame on them, if they want to get a larger pie cut, they need to translate and distribute it themselves.

I know, it's a shame, but I'd rather have anime continue being what it is instead of having millions of dollars being donated by westeners to promote their taste.
I'll take one or two good selling idolshit over 5 seasons of the newest edgy "shounen that people call seinen because it has violence" normalshit that we get every once in a while.

He should get patreon, rebis has one https://www.patreon.com/Rebis

>>157223817
They already did that. It's called Under the Dog. It's /v/'s wet dream of what they think anime should be. And it's laughably bad.

>>157228066
>>>/kotaku/

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>>157229245
Who could be behind this post?

>>157231203
>>157231017
>>157230735
CR shills should be gassed on sight. Way to miss the entire point of the thread.

>>157239670
>Evil people kicked Jews out
Jesus was right

>>157224539
I've recently bought some stuff from dlsite. It mostly annoys me that almost all the artists for the shit I'd like to buy don't offer it on dlsite or any other digital service I'm aware of.

>>157221892

Yeah, I would buy it if it wasn't disgusting shota shit. Fucking degenerate.

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>>157221989
what would happen if pirates put up links where you can donate to various studios?

>>157221561

>comparing adult anime licenses to regular all public anime

Even in Japan they are fucking poor, why do you think most hentai anime is poorly animated, full of loops and overall not many released a year?

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>>157229245

>Caring about this when barely any of us actually buys anime and manga in the first place.

>>157221561
The Japanese are so shit at making money off of anime and manga
They have so many passionate fans, yet they rely on them buying stupid figurines and dont really make any money off anyone outside of japan

>>157244424
I think they need more faith in the west
If attack on titan or one punch man had aired simultaneously in the west at a reasonable hour i think they could have gotten a lot of toy and dvd sales

>>157244478
But muh gaijin!

>>157244478
Also dubs that dont suck would help

>I want your Gaijin money
So add subs to your BDs and box sets and I'll shell out the cash easy
>No, for Nippon onry

Clockwork.

>>157230938
>Sure, with it being drm-free, rampant piracy. But that's there in any case
I don't think it would even make a difference. HS pirates just about anything that's released in the west and nobody ever managed to stop them from it.

Good concepts you got there, anyways, but considering how reluctant the Japanese are when it comes to innovative business decisions, I don't think we'll see them tried out any time soon.

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Japanese animators are pure betas. From some point of view they deserve everything because of being spineless slaves. Smart ones work in animation and illustration industry in the same time.
>>157222635
>>157223769
It's pure bullshit.
Patronage is thing since ancient times. That's how Old Masters created great art

>>157223140
>>157229464
This, what a disappointing thread.

>>157221561
>hentai artist
>""""""""""creator""""""""""

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>>157221561
I'll be honest. This was the first thing that came into my head from the subject line.

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Post your face when you realize Peanuts is Doraemon for the West

>>157234980
Check the IPs, I'm not him.

>>157221989
>Literally impossible to actually give my anime to the poor animators in Japan
You can help by giving money to the people who created the Animator Dorms project.

>>157221989
>>157245003
I wish i could just give money directly to the mangaka or animations company i like
Instead of buying shit they will get 10% of

>>157246010
Without the publisher you'd never know that they exist.

>>157244551
Opm had an ok dub.

>>157223682
There's still a thread up on /h/

>>157244478
The west only buys shounen and some ecchi once in a while.
The japs are right to not depend on the west.

Why not just ask the bank for a loan lmao.

>>157221561
>buying anime
What happened to this board?

>>157238143
I like how people ignored your post when you're 100% right. I guess some find it fun to be scammed.

>>157247805
He's a fucking idiot who doesn't understand the very beginning of basics of supply and demand. Besides, rating work by the size alone is fucking insane.

>>157228808
>seems to me to reflect more of a hatred of the company and the kind of fandom it's associated with
You get it.

>>157229296
That doesn't matter. Do you think the distributor looks at the Oricon ranking to estimate their sales? They have their own figures.

Only legit was of supporting them is importing stuff.
Big news.

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>>157229245
Good goy, you make us proud.

>>157248148
It's a mistake to use someone as lovable as Ao to represent the nefarious Jew

>>157221561
>ethical consumption in capitalism
Lol nope.

>>157248179
Well, a cute jew is still a jew.

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Why are japanese creators so wildly inept at making money outside of the domestic market? Is it genuinely the whole "your white piggu money shames me" bullshit I keep hearing, they literally just don't want it?

>>157221561
Same applies to Fakku, hence the "support the artists" meme.

>>157224188
Ubanis?

>>157244478
They do have faith in the west. Toei held on to Dragonball Super for a year because they were waiting to get a TV deal. Its just hard to get anime on tv. I'm sure they would love to have those shows on at a good time slot like in the early 2000s

>>157221712
>cr/funi/amazon/etc all pocket most money from us licenses not mention ad revenue
Actually no, its the Japanese executives that get the lion's share. Those Sony labels aren't just for show.

There's a reason why several US licensing companies have gone under or lost significant standing.

>>157248319
Artists have it pretty nice with FAKKU though. While I can't reveal exact numbers due to contractual secrets, they get nice extra money from subscription chapters and with books they get more money for each FAKKU sale compared to a JP sale, and both of these require basically zero extra effort on the artist's end.

I can give actual numbers for doujins, though. There the artists get a 70% cut, which is better than what eg. DLSite and DMM offer (50-60% at similar price points), and again the extra effort required on the artist end is minimal.

>>157248287
Selling stuff has its own complications and requirements, and the same goes for doing digital distribution right. It's no surprise most just don't bother doing it on their own - they're artist, not salespeople.

>>157221561
So what if, theoretically I won a lottery and the budget is basically limitless is there a way to set up a website for a direct transaction to someone over the internet in exchange for the persons product? Like something akin to the direct (ish) trading going on ebay but instead this could be with foreign media. That way you can direct give the creators money instead of going through all that hubbub. Though I do realize making a site like that would essentially make you the middle man.

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>>157221561
>Hurr durr the Japanes slave labor system don't treat the generations of souless workaholics that it helped raise right.
What else is new?
We have these kinds of thread almost every day and all they amount to i jack shit because we can't help how the slanteyed fucks never updated their economic infrastructure

>>157249348
What is the difference between Daiz and a regular CR shill?

>>157249539
daiz is bald, the CR shill could be luckier

>>157248287
They're using Nintendo-senpai strategy

>>157244938
Yeah, it's why I figured it wouldn't be an issue. Piracy's going to happen, no need to punish paying customers, who will pay if you provide a good product.

As for it never happening, I really do wish some group there got adventurous enough to try it. It may be a bit of an oversimplification of certain aspects of the involved parties, but overall, it should only be a net positive to the industry and its workers, while ensuring their independence from outside meddling. Not likely to happen any time soon though, it's why I listed it as a pipe dream, for sure I would do it if I had the money.

>>157222493
>Agreed, the jew bullshit has to fucking stop.
This has been said for over 1000 years