Yojo Senki: Being X is fucking retarded

I just want to fuck her.

>be gutter rat who just ate a rotten apple from dumpster
>oh God please help me from this hopeless situation

>be living a comfortable life with no wants or needs
>God? Why do I pray for him if I have everything I want

>>157218882
>wanting to fuck a racoon

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>>157218882
Tanya is for Lt. Col. Degurechaff

>>157218888
>god puts you in a horrible situation because fuck you
>wow, yeah thats a guy i want to work for.

>>157218882
>>157219452
that lucky bastard

>>157218776
I'd spill my salvation all over her face if you know what I mean.

>>157218882
>>157219067
Now now Fennec, you need to calm yourself.

>>157218776
so you're saying you want to turn Youjo Senki into a RomCom?

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I'm very sad that i missed the train when people actually wanted to talk about this show. This board seems to burn through its interests really fast.

>>157221293
Single season shows pass by like nothing.

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>>157221338
It was a pretty good show, i assume it did well in the domestic japanese market. And from the ending of the first series they seem to have open plotlines for a second season.

>>157221293
Good. You're not welcome.

Fuck off.

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>>157221554
It had good sales so a second season is going to happen in a year or two.

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>>157218882
Visha, calm yourself.

>>157221835
I want to be sandwiched between those two.

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>>157221792
G O O D B O I

>>157221835
>>157221905
between thickness and flatness, there is nirvana

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>>157218776
>He fell for the rational self-interest meme

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>>157221338
take it back

>>157222146
>Being nice to someone
>self intrest

I'm just saying Being X hasn't thought his plan through at all. Giving Tanya nothing but grief is gonna make her hate him more and more. There needs to be a Carrot and a Stick.

>>157222074
>between thickness and flatness, there is nirvana

Indeed, the path of enlightenment is not one or the other, it is both.

>>157218882
this is /a/ banner material

>>157222437
Wannabe gods are all stick, no carrot.

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>>157218776
> Capitalist Loli
Characters who was a perfect capitalist in a previous life. Who at one pint delivers the line "i'm not dying till i bring the free-market to this world"


It's a pillbox for you goddamn maggots

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>>157222457
>mfw

>>157222463
we all want to have a spiritually homosexual relationship with Tanya.

>>157218776
Being X isn't trying to convert Tanya. He's using her to get everyone around her to worship him.

To everyone else, Tanya is a very religious loli surrounded by miraculous feats.

>>157222807
He's doing both.

>>157223130
But isn't trying to convince her, he's slowly brainwashing her with the nukes.

>>157222807
He gets blammed at the end tho. Or something like that.Because he is wrong and she's right.

>>157218882

>"her"

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>>157223354
It has a vaginia, its a her.

>>157222437
Elenium 95.

>>157218776
You're misunderstanding the situation. Being X doesn't want Tanya to merely "believe" in him. Tanya is rational and can't possibly deny the existence of being x after the experiences she's had. What being X wants is for Tanya to submit herself to him. He wants her not to merely accept his existence, but to subordinate herself to his will and worship. What he seeks is domination and worship, which Tanya refuses to provide since she rejects his self-proclaimed divinity.

>>157223660
you mean her suicide vest that she needs to suck god's cock so he doesn't blow it up?

>>157223734
thats my point though, he gets nothing out of praising him as a god because Being X is just being a shitty person towards her. Being X would have a better time converting Tanya if he gave her a bone once in a while, or gave her something worth fighting for (like a family or a love interest, the closest thing she has to that is her 2nd Lt.). As long as Tanya only fights for her own survival she'll never submit to Being X

>>157223889
That will never work because the moment she was reincarnated, she vowed to get revenge against Being X. Being X lost his chance after their first conversation.

>>157223889
She'll never submit to him anyway. She's an objectivist. Seh cares the most for herself and for success. For her he can be at most way of achieving goals. She wants to develop and flourish in the environment that she's in. But she will never recognize him. Because she stand in opposition to her believes. She wants to achieve by her own merit. He simply has power. She becomes better by self-improvement and that's her goal. X does not want to self improve he want the recognition of other beings.

X stands in opposition to Tanya core beliefs no carrot is changing that.

>>157224279
>She'll never submit to him anyway. She's an objectivist. Seh cares the most for herself and for success.

which is why Being X needs to get her to care about something else than herself if she wants to properly leverage her into believing he is god. If Tanya remains self-centered she isn't going to find faith. People turn to faith more often than not when they don't have agency with their situations. Calling his bluff of saying he doesn't believe in god because he has everything and then taking away everything means Tanya has nothing to lose and everything to gain by not fallowing Being X's plans. Being X should have given Tanya a loving family so she can learn god's wrath and mercy on a more personal level. Putting her in an orphanage is a tactical mistake.

AKA, Being X is being a retard.

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>>157224833
With Tanya's character the way it is, I don't see how you think anything Being X does would accomplish anything.

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>>157225070
Yes

>>157224833
I think you are not familiar with objectivist philosophy.

Objectivist is philosophical view which holds egoism in highest regard. And Tanya is hardcore at that. At the moment of her death she denounces God even tho it is evident that he have power over her life at this moment. Someone with such ideological spine is not going to be swayed by a simple carrot.

You assume that the family will change her. For objectivist family is a mean of prosperity and self improvement. Hardcore objectivist will approach the the idea of losing family rationally. Tanya is hardcore in her belief, she's also a sociopath so i don't see her caring about the family much. The friends or family from previous life are never mentioned because there so you know anon.

Also doing something like that would be the total destruction of her character.

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Didn't we only get out sold by Konosuba?
I remember someone posted the sales numbers and we were something like 6 680.

>>157218882
She's a man and you're still a fag

>>157225293
Damn i'm sleepy, that post was shitty.

It should be at the end that she don't cares about the family from previous life.

>>157225378
A man doesn't have a vagina.

>>157225131
Its half hoping that Tanya gets attached to something, anything, to give her character abit more depth and hurt. If i wanted to make someone believe i was god, i would deprive them, but also give them hope and give them goals for a better life. That is pretty much how cults like Scientology propagate

>>157225293
>No Character growth allowed.

I fundamentally disagree with you as Tanya did object to being reincarnated by the end, which an objectivist would jump at the chance of continuation of their life even if it meant a minor setback.

>>157225635
Look at this shitlord over here.

>>157225070
Too bad she didn't look like that in the show. I enjoyed it a lot but I never fully got over Visha's character design.

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>>157225731
I'm still correct, nigger.

>>157223354
She's a beautiful dutch Fraulein with a vagina, she is 100% female.

>>157225893
lets all just agree on Spiritual homosexuality here.

>>157225678
>character growth=/=destruction of character

Like some jewish loli gives Hitler flowers and suddenly he swears to become the savior of their race.

>>157225922
But anon, everyone was a man at one point in their past lives.

>>157225935
>implying that puberty won't affect Tanya's intrest in men/women as she grows

she's 11 anon, she's gonna start growing tits and thinking about sex and bleeding out trenches any day now. fuck my parents are dead but i don't bring it up at all. nobody would bring up Tanya's family in conversation either cause she is afucking ophran.

>>157225678
But that was the mercy of being she despises. As far as I'm concerned self preservation is not always objectivistic goal. It's about fulfilling one's ego. In this case one can argue that defiance of this self proclaimed god is the best decision. Because one's individuality and freedom is upheld. Taking the chance takes away ones freedom, takes the status of independent being.

I had problems with Tanya using this blessed crystal. I understand using the opportunity but there should emphasis on her seeing things that being-X do as worthless.

Overall there are some places in which argument can be made. But there are multiple objectivistic schools of taught. Overall Tanya in many situations presents objectivistic worldview.

>>157226192
>implying wanting to bang girls or be banged by guys would effect her middle age salaryman philosophy in the slightlest

>>157226260
Right. I'm just saying people can get attached to things even though they do not want to, and feelings develop on their own. Cause frankly, Tanya's obsession with living as long as she can is gonna get old if she isn't in constant parral.

plus, it'll fit in nicely with the theme of the second season set up, which is "rational being not acting rationally"

>>157226497
>implying biochemistry has no effect on psychology
>implying you're going to think the same way after getting carpet bombed with hormones.

>>157226622
I would like her to stay as the anchor of ideology she represents. With her worldview she's kind of unique. "Normalizing" her would not work for me. Besides I can't really see sociopath to having such change.

>>157226753
Eh, its personal preference. i can respect that.

>>157226794
Yeah it is. I also understand that someone want some deeper relations with other characters family for example.

How actual 12-year olds talk/think/act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Gxgv6-H3E

It puts Rerugen's fear of Tanya into perspective. Pretty much everyone else in YS is oblivious to the obvious that Tanya is highly abnormal.

>>157226622
So what does this have to do with a sociopathic athiest suddenly worshipping god?

>>157226260

Tanya's perspective has undergone some subtle character development, she is not actually the same person as salaryman, and that reflects growing up in a different environment.

Salaryman expressed contempt and disdain toward Sonzai X and didn't really show any concern over self preservation.

Tanya has been concerned with self-preservation from the start. While she started off with the same contempt for Sonzai X, that gradually evolved into fear. Salaryman wouldn't have shot possessed corpses or pointed rifles at an angels statue menacingly. Tanya shows increased agitation at Sonzai X over the course of the story even without evidence of his direct influence.

>>157226988
>Hi I'm Tanya and I am a 12 (52) year old girl (male)
>And I just want to punch god (demiurge) in the face

>>157227327
When you're about to be hit by a train, any concern for self preservation goes out the window. And when you're facing absolute annihilation without hope of reincarnation in your next life, you're obviously going to want to survive.

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>>157225791
But she's cute

>>157223218

Differences between the anime/novel.

In the novel, Sonzai X isn't as prominent. The Type-95 is handed to Tanya by a different god from the one who reincarnated her. The aim seems to be spreading faith/Monotheism regardless of Tanya's will.

Anime is a lot more clear-cut. Sonzai X is interested on if he can turn Tanya into a believer. He's willing to sacrifice lives just to satiate that curiosity.

>>157227686
Some anons are allergic to moeblobs

>>157227772
i will agree, her eyes are too far apart sometimes.

>>157227572

I don't buy that. Atheists believe that dying is like going to sleep forever. Your consciousness simply ends. It's a concept that has existed since antiquity and the Greeks called it "oblivion". This is certainly what salaryman thought his afterlife would be like before Sonzai X interfered. In the anime, Sonzai X explained that he reincarnates atheists rather than sends them off to heaven/hell to give them another shot at finding faith. He was going to give salaryman oblivion because of his fedora tipping.

Sonzai X promises salaryman oblivion if Tanya dies prematurely. If salaryman still had the same ideological purity of his former life, Tanya would not be so hellbent on self preservation. There was a clear change in personality/objectives during the reincarnation.

>>157227966
I've seen way way worse than that in shows like Yume Tsukai.

>>157227772
I think she's a moeblob done very well

>>157228055
It's less about self preservation for Tanya, and more of wanting to put Being X in his place by proving to him that even with all the bullshit she still won't have faith in him and will still manage to live a safe relaxing life in the rear. And every time she gets near her objective, Sonzai X steps in and pisses her off even more.

>>157228058
Jesus they all have down syndrome

>>157225994
ACHKTUALLY males are given male features in the womb. Everybody starts out as female

>>157229898
We also have tails in the womb. Everybody starts out as animals

>>157229983
That's actually false and based off of crackpot theories from the 1890's.

>>157227686
That's a Moomin, dude

>>157230104
>theories
>literal pictures proving it.

>>157230104
>crackpot theories
Falsified evidence*

>>157229983
3deep5me

>if it was me, i'd just push everyone back and defend what we have
>so you are saying we can't win the war?
>i'm saying we can't win but we also shouldn't lose
>excellent, write a book on it
>...
>Tanya wins the war anyway
This was pretty retarded.

>>157227772
A moeblob that isn't afraid to cap a nigga.

>>157218776
I do wish people would use correct words. Being X does NOT seek Tanya's faith or belief. Being X exists and Tanya expresses that knowledge, therefore belief is not part of Being X's motivation. (Faith is belief in something without proof. Tanya has proof therefore she cannot have faith as she has direct evidence.) What Being X really WANTS is WORSHIP and ADORATION, in the form of subservience, prayer, and subjugation to its will.
>
>This is essentially a story of a runaway slave that refuses to be broken into service of its master, call her Kunta Kinte if it's easier to understand her motivation. Tanya is not atheist but rather she is an anti-theist who refuses to bend knee to a being that can snuff her life out, at a moments notice.
>
>She is a rational anarchist who with her dying breath refuses to be broken, hence Being X's interest. Being X has met billions of souls but all have repented at the last moment. Tanya is that one in trillion that has refused for the first time and continues to refuse no matter what, she is a puzzle and a challenge that Being X can't let go, because Being X has never faced failure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6doa_xZsD-0&lc=z13gfz3hwxnny1va404cezzbfl3bg11yo3g

>>157218776
>>157222807

Being X doesn't want Tanya to worship him. He's punishing Tanya by using his own logic against him. Everything bad that happens to Tanya is Tanya's own fault with the first instance (reincarnation) being her attempt to bullshit him being used as a punishment via taking the argument at face value.

TLDR Tanya is actually Tanya's own worst enemy.

>>157231421
>>Tanya wins the war anyway
The empire loses afterwards though

>>157231991
t. sonzai x

>>157231881
>Pronouncing Colonel as Call-o-nell

>>157231881

That's a fun link but there's no evidence every atheist converted when Sonzai X talked to them, or even that he conversed with every one.

Salaryman did make the disclaimer that he had personality problems, but he also argues that his behavior is the natural outcome of a society like 2013's Japan. Sonzai X seems to concur, hence his weariness at having to reincarnate so many atheists.

Tanya definitely becomes an anti-theist from the first moment she realizes Sonzai X is supernatural. The logical rejections are rather flimsy, like grasping for a reason to not submit without completely breaking character.

>>157232239

I used to do that when I played Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis as a 8 year old. I don't begrudge that guy, it's not as cringe worthy as hearing someone say "Marine Corpse".

>>157222463
honestly how new are you, be real

>>157225179
something's very off about this picture. Like the faces are straight but the body is tilted

>>157225179
>yuri end
I'd be ok with this.

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itt: never read kierkegaard

>>157218888
>be gutter rat who just ate a rotten apple from dumpster
>don't pray to shit because I'm not a weak faggot who gets mindbroken when things don;t go my way
True story by the way.

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>>157223889
And is hundreds of years in advance of any known technology.

https://youtu.be/ZlUDHbSiJtA

>>157225731
She's biologicallya female her past life was male but this life she's a girl with a scary vagina

>>157237417
What am I looking at?

Sometimes its suprising how fitting some AMV are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roRLcBKM4FE

>>157229983
>Everybody starts out as animals
and stays as animals through their lives

>>157237486
You don't know that it's scary.

>>157229983
Humans are animals to begin with.

>>157218776

Being X is the WW1 general sitting in the capital and not seeing the big picture believing logic would overcome human emotion.

Desperation and poverty are almost always guaranteed to create hate rather than faith despite the facts that may or may not exist.

>Muh parallels.

New serie when?

>>157240192
This.

>>157218776
Tanya is pretty retarded for not believing in God at this point. She should be believing in God and that God is a giant asshole

Why didn't the god just send him to eternal damnation in hell or something

>>157240957
Because Tanya is just a symptom of a much broader problem for Sonzai X. Sending all the non-believers to hell isn't going to solve that problem.
Well maybe enough damnation would get them to repent, but who knows.

>>157240957
Because the idea was that the idea of a perfect all-powerful being is pretty silly. X is a huge, imperfect egotist and demanded Tanya repent.
This IS Tanya's hell, in a way.

>>157218776
this anime was bullhockey

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>>157225860
Traps arn't gay anon, pic related.

>>157240854
She is clearly not denying "Being X", but she is denying "Being X" as being the same being as the one most people call "God". As salaryman says while dying, "Being X" could as well be the devil or a delusion, he wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

>>157240854
Which she, in fact, does. Believing and worshipping are different things.

>>157245183
Heavy Manga-Spoilers following Did Tanja survive the war, even if the Empire did not?

>>157245776
No idea, the manga doesn't say yet. It was only a fast forward to some historians talking about the empire, nothing was revealed about what happened to Tanya

>>157238924
You could pretty much make an AMV of any Sabaton Song with any show focusing on war desu.

Especially if the show has historical elements, since all Sabaton does is take an historical anecdote and make a metal version of a military march with it.

>>157240854
>Tanya is pretty retarded for not believing in God at this point.
If the only way out of her misery is to believe in God, then she's fucked or maybe not.

As she know as a fact that Sonzai X exist, she can't believe in the existence of Sonzai X any more. But I guess that Tanya can start believing that Sonzai X is God to save her ass. Or she could start believing in God, but not in Sonzai X just to fuck with him as he is obviously a false god trying to damn her soul

>>157246273
That is dangerous. As he could just logic into proof that there is only one god.

>>157218776
>>157218888
Being X isn't an abrahamic god, he's a petty deity that gets mad about a mortal not being in shock by the revelation of his existence.
He says he wants tanya to learn faith but he really just want to keep fucking with her

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>>157218776
I've been wearing her face for quite a while now and I seriously don't understand why they didn't use Tanya's face from the OP image.
I'd even wear it the wrong (right) way, but the current face only amounts to facing my ass.