Saekano

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Utaha a best. A BEST.

Eriri a shit. A SHIT.

Nigga just wanted to make a fucking game, and all these thirty sluts made it personal. That's why Megumi is the best.

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>Eriri only got TWO EPISODES

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Eriri is worst girl though. Utaha is a goddess.

>>157215753
Good. One was too many already.

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>>157216019
It's just sad that when it seems Eriri will finally get her chance to shine, Megumi swoops in and steals everyone's attention.

>>157216474
isn't that just a small scene at the end of the book?

He deserves to be shit on from time to time.

Sorry but you're all wrong Megumi is the best Girl

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>>157216661
It's still a really strong scene, and they'll add emphasis to Megumi that they couldn't add in the LN.

I used to not be able to decide if I liked Eriri or Utaha better

But after the betrayal

I can't decide which one I hate more.

>>157217087
Even Tomoya forgave them, you should just stop hating them already.

>>157217087
Eriri because it was more damning.

>>157217022
The anime style is better for Megumi. She looks like a regular girl who grew her hair out.

>>157215047
Utaha a best

A BEST

Utaha über alles

she shall be praised

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Choose your waitress.

>>157215047
Ís it okay to like all the Saekanos?

>>157218290

Sure, as long as they aren't shitty tsunderes or completely irrelevant.

>>157217281
No. Tomoya forgave them to easy. There should have been some repercussions. They got off easy.
>>157217281
I think it's the fact that this is the second time Eriri left him like that and all the shit that just happened that makes it more damning.

>>157218226
Utaha > Megumi >>>> Eriri

>>157215047
because he's a piece of shit?

>>157218226
Megumi would be the only actually good one and very charming, but I choose Utaha because I want a sexy dysfunctional maid.

>>157218459
Their repercussion is losing the Tomoyabowl.

Utaha a shit.

>>157218652
but megumi has the personality of soggy cardboard

>>157218792
She'll be fun if you indulge her. Otherwise, she'd be an ordinary cute maid who does her job well.

>>157218226
Eriri looks best here.

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>>157218792
Very wrong.

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>>157218792
You're so funny anon.

>>157218226

Which one of them is actually bringing you food?

>>157218781
I don't know, it just feels like it wasn't really addressed well enough. Tomoya should have at least had a real confrontation with them about it.

I think it's shitty that they still try and go for the D after pulling that.

>>157219220
Here comes the butthurt Eririfag again.

>>157219181
The only one there who brought food.

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>>157219220
>Utahafags will defend this

>>157219348

Exactly. Eriri/Utahafags btfo.

>>157219389
Utahafags don't care. That's why Eririfags are the biggest whiteknights, because they can't handle their bitch being called a bitch.

>>157215047
Megumi > Eriri > Izumi > Michiru > Utahs

>tfw have the objective best taste ITT
Feels goo.

>>157215047
Is Saekano harem kino?

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Not a bad episode, really liked the Eriri scene in the snow at the end. First time this series actually made me think about a character and the motivation. Almost like WA2 but so far Saekano has been horse shit, like these threads. This made me see some potential.

>>157219567
>always react and enforce with >>157215105 >>157216019 because of insecurity and butthurt
>don't care

>>157219635
>an Eririfag who hates the series

What a surprise.

>>157219632
It's without a doubt the best harem out there. No other harem anime comes close.

>>157219567
That's a lie and you know it. Thet are the worst posters who plague our threads with autism of combative and defensive shitflings for over a year now.

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>>157219822
Utaha fans are bros

>>157219698
Or, you know, it's just Utaha's arc that is shitty and a drag.

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>>157219698
Whatever helps you sleep at night, kid.

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>>157215047
She's not wrong. Fucking Tomoya sympathisers

>>157219882
Utahafags are cancer*

>>157219293
Eriri's interactions with him are cute and don't reek of sexual assault.

>>157219888
Utaha's arc was good, much better than the last episode.

>>157219882
Not really at all. You guys were better and tolerable being a uninvolved third party.

>>157219976
>worst girl's arc
>good
Nope.

>>157219888
He said that the whole series is horse shit.

>>157219913
>implying a typical Eririfag post is something new or shocking

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>>157220041
What a pleb.

>>157219705
Please, even Yahari is better than this shit.

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>>157219921
No one is actually a Tomoya sympathizer. Not even Megumifags like him. He's one of the worst harem MC in decades. Just as bad as Ayato and Ichika.

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>>157220041
It was good because of Megumi.

>>157220047
>He said that the whole series is horse shit.
It is. The character design is nice though.
Maybe you ought to consider the possibility of you being wrong, why would I have a personal attachment to a character in a show I don't like?

>>157220171
Nope. Saekano has the better girls, comedy, and development. Yahari's drama is forced and unnatural while Saekano's is simple and effective.

>>157220047
Except his third sentence could easily be talking about S2. Utaha's arc is shit, so it cant' be helped.
>First time this series actually made me think about a character and the motivation
This one was referring to the show as a whole and he isn't exactly wrong.

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>>157220268
Iroha alone is better than all the Saekano sluts.

>>157220268
>better girls
>better development
Not him, but just no. Yahari beats Saekano in these areas by far.

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>>157220268
Joke post.

>>157220283
Too bad he already admitted above that he thinks the whole series is shit. Why do Eririfags always try to argue and put words in other people's mouths? You always end up looking retarded. And no, Utaha's arc has been decent to good and most people agree.

>he isn't exactly wrong
Except for the fact this episode wasn't the first time a character showed motivation or emotion in the series.

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>>157220349
Oh please, Megumi far outclasses all the other girls. None of the Yahari girls are as unique or have as memorable scenes.

>>157220372
>posting the only shit girl in Yahari

Don't prove him right please.

>>157220372
Yukino is an absolute joke of a main heroine.

>>157220398
That's his prerogative then.
>always try to argue and put words in other people's mouths?
Utahafags always do this and have been calling Saekano shit for months and complaining just to sell KM over Saekano. You don't have any right to complain.

>Utaha's arc has been decent to good and most people agree.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>157220488
There's only one good girl in Yahari.

And it's not even a real girl.

>>157220488
He didn't post Yui.

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>>157220534
>salty Irohafags
You won't stop Yukino from being the best and most loved girl.

>>157220544
Correction, Saekano in general after volume 7 has gone downhill and this isn't an opinion exclusive to Utahafags or an uncommon opinion at that. That's a fair criticism, not just mindless hate. Megumifags and Utahafags have plenty of reasons to like Utaha's arc. Only a vocal minority like Eririfags would say negative things about it.

>>157220461
Japan disagrees.

>>157220699
Too bad Japan has shit taste.

>>157220628
Yui is second best girl.

>>157220651
Iroha > Yui > Haruno > Komachi > Rumi > Ebina > Saika >> * >> Yukino

>>157220671
No one cares about what happens after Volume 7 because the anime won't adapt those parts. There's a reason they're spending five episodes on Megumi's arc, the ending will be considerably different.

>>157220671
Oh please, the only reason Utahafags hate the series now is because Utaha lost. Their opinion is shallow, much like their taste. They are the only ones who criticizes in such a transparent manner.

>>157220699
Saekano panders to an older demographic while Yahari panders to normalfags and teenagers. There's a reason why Saekano has so much expensive merch and life-size statues.

>>157220777
Nope, Megumifags disliked volumes 9 and 10 for being repetitive and a drag as well. No one will say the series is amazing after vol 7. The only volume that generated almost unanimous praise was GS2.

>>157220671
>Utahafags are a vocal minority
Makes sense then why they are touchy shitposters.

>>157220852
Nice job missing the point and twisting my words.

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>>157220398
You're one ignorant fuck. Are you having fun trying to create a confrontation everywhere?

I said the scene was the first time that I, personally, realized some interest in a character in Saekano. I never said anything about emotions not showing, so much for "putting words into other people's mouths.
To me it sounds like you are a triggered little bitch because someone said something positive about a character you don't like. I give this show shit because I don't like it, I guess that isn't possible without subscribing to one of the girls.

>>157220839
Only Utahafags shit on volume 9 out of spite and jealousy because of Eriri route. Megumifags criticizing UTaha's character and no sense of development is not the same as thinking it suddenly went bad. Beyond that GS2, volume 11, and volume 12 were praised for good reasons.

>>157220974
Yeah, no. The only ones that liked volume 9 were Eririfags, but in general that volume wasn't considered anything outstanding and carried the same problems as volume 10. Vols 11 and 12 had negative opinions from fans of Eriri and Utaha and even Megumifags that aren't shippers, so they're pretty split as well.

Less than seven hours before the PV drops and we lick Eririfag tears.

>>157220729
>dat shit taste

Yukino > Komachi > Rumi > Kaori > Iroha > Yumiko > Haruno > Saika > Ebina > Yui

>>157221115
>pYukino first
>accuses others of having shit taste

>>157220923
Reread the other post. The other faggot was implying that scene was the first time the show could evoke such reactions from fans saying you're not wrong about that. And yes, it is baffling that the worst character in the show who is infamous for being extremely detrimental to its quality receives praise while the other aspects that are far more enjoyable and fun without her are being shat on.

>>157221032
When summary for volume 9 first came out, it hardly got any hate. It's only later after Utahafags turned obnoxious and militant did they went back to shit on it. It's too obvious.

Utaha was neglected for 3 volumes until volume 10 happened and it was supposed to be a character arc for her. But she didn't develop and people criticized that and only that. Only one guy stupidly complained about the structure being it had a lot of of the same text and quotes taken from past volumes and events, but that is obviously a given since Tomoya uses materials to craft the story.

>negative opinions from fans of Eriri and Utaha and even Megumifags that aren't shippers
Nope. Only Utahafags shit on it like usual since they gave up and hate the series. Why do Utahafags keep trying to force this no shipper meme for Megumifags when such things don't even exist and Megumifags have always celebrated Megumi winning without any doubts?

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>>157221048
Why would there be tears? Episode 6 is going to be great and adorable.

>>157218226
Eriri's fang makes me go HNNNGG every fucking time.

>>157220723
>when Japan like what I like = their taste is good
>when Japan don't like what I like = their taste is shit

>>157220833
Saekano is otakubait for teens and manchildren. Those merchandise to market and squeeze out of their money without any integrity is proof.

>>157221428
Utahafags are trying to shitpost and bait because muh only episodes.

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>>157221428
He thinks quantity is better than quality.

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>>157221518
The Saekano LNs are for teens. The anime is for older people who spend hundreds, maybe even thousands of dollars on merchandise. You think these tapestries come cheap? These people have power levels exceeding everyone on /a/.

>>157221428
So this is was actually at Eriri's parents place and not at Tomoya's?

>>157221518
Even /a/ likes Yahari more than Saekano.

>>157221671
Not true.

>>157221372
Volume 9 was criticized for being repetitive and not telling anything we didn't know already. And also the fact Eriri wasn't physically there 90% of the time despite being an Eriri volume. That's not the same as hating it, but it wasn't praised either. The reception for non-Eririfags was very mediocre. Volume 10 was treated worse because Maruto admittedly put in even less effort than in volume 9, and two consecutive novels with the same theme and structure got tiring and jarring incredibly fast, and the series as a whole started to drag on, which is why the reception of the second half is lukewarm at best.

Oh please, Eririfags were very active in dissing Megumi when vol 11 came out. And some Megumifags liked Megumi better as a fembro than a romantic interest, which she wasn't for about half of the series. Her appeal definitely changed when her ambiguous emotions and feelings disappeared for good. And still, compared to other main girls that are the most popular, Megumi didn't get nearly the same amount of OTP posts and such other celebrations for her victory, and she still doesn't.

>>157221428
No one will remember Eriri's scene, they'll just remember how Megumi got mad.

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>>157221666
One of her family's mansions. It's the same place the anime showed.

>>157221713
Yes it is. Yahari has 10 times the hype and threads. Not to mention even Yaharifags think Saekanofags are worse than Yaharifags at their lowest.

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>>157221639
Well, Utaha has both quality and quantity.

>>157221863
Yahari had active LN translations and their threads didn't get bad until the second season aired while Saekano's were bad from the start and drove people away.

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>>157221872
>Utaha having either

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>>157220268
>>157220349
>>157220461

Yahari just has a better cast of side characters and a far better MC.

I personally like the main trio of girls in Saekano better.

>>157221740
Is there any point in arguing when you are continue to lie and twist history? You even pretend to not know how Megumifags are like, who mirrors much like Megumi as a character.

>>157222033
>better MC
>literally a male Megumi

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>>157221960
Shoo, shoo.

>>157220307
I see Irohacancer is still lingering.

>>157222033
Saekano barely focuses on its side characters, that's part of why it's so good. Instead of wasting time on side characters, it focuses on its main trio to make them memorable characters. Tomoya himself is a decent MC until V12.

>>157222060
Please tell me how I am lying and twisting history. As far as I am concerned, that's exactly how the reactions on those volumes went.

And please, even Maruto and his staff were divided on whether Megumi had romantic feelings at some point, much like Megumifags. There were lots of discussion and talks about this specific topic and it was one of the things that made fun to discuss Megumi back then.

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>>157222152
Yahari's main trio has more focus and interesting dynamic than Saekano's main trio, and still have time for its side characters like Komachi, Haruno, Yumiko, plus male characters like Hayama and Saika.

And of course 8man > Tomoya.

I don't even fucking watch the show but god damn no girl can ever come close to this magnificent piece of art aka UTAHA.

Should I just watch it for her, I mean MC is literally vomit tier?

>>157222272
Contradictions. See >>157221372 again.

Maruto making Megumi ambiguous and trying to decide how and when for her feelings != not wanting her to have a romantic development. He clearly wants it seeing the way he wrote volume 12. That aside, Megumi's ambiguous feelings were discussed after volume 7 came out. It was to stir interest and promote discussion of her character, but almost no one was against the idea of her being a love interest, which was always obvious since the start of the series.

>>157222497
>muh cowtits and body
Utahafags, everyone.

>>157222152
I don't think wasting side characters like Izumi, Iori and Akane is a good thing. Yahari makes a much better management of side characters and the author is more skilled at intertwining plot threads between them, unlike Saekano's simple and linear story that outstayed its welcome ages ago.

The only real memorable character in Saekano is Megumi. The rest won't be remembered in any special capacity.

>>157222355
Yukino isn't as unique or interesting as Megumi, and Yahari's main trio don't have funny interactions like Eriri and Utaha's. I also would not say 8man is a great MC, from the anime his conflict on "genuine" is poorly handled and the emotions aren't properly conveyed, and depending on how Saekano's anime goes Tomoya may wind up looking better.

>>157222608
>I don't think wasting side characters like Izumi, Iori and Akane is a good thing
>Akane

Again, the anime won't adapt past V7, the LN is irrelevant and Akane likely won't show up. Saekano's story is neat, tight, and effective. It doesn't get into the clusterfuck that is Yahari's S2.

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>>157222638
You can't be more wrong. Yukino is a much more compelling, driven character. The heroine seeking what is truly genuine in a relationship past the ups and downs and testing relationships is something she started and undoubtedly will be a model for future generations.

>>157222571
I don't see contradictions there. You talk about hate, I'm talking about dislike and fair criticism, which is different. The point is that the general consensus after volume 7 isn't very good, and being an Utahafag or Megumifag is irrelevant.

I'm not saying people were against the idea of Megumi having romantic developments, but the different interpretations were all equally valid, and it was something Megumifags liked to discuss with other Megumifags even if everyone knew the inevitable outcome. It shouldn't be surprising that some of them found the execution of what was predictable, her blooming romance with Tomoya, not as exciting and interesting as the ambiguous charm Megumi used to have.

>>157222815
>Literally Eriri, Utaha, and Megumi combined
Based Misaki.

>>157222815
Yukino sucks and her portrayal is awful. Her dependency issue was pulled out of nowhere and poorly foreshadowed (no I don't care about the LN). The whole "genuine" issue is a total joke and evoked more laughs than tears. Meanwhile, Megumi is a unique character who never fails to excite.

>>157222959
>pulled out of nowhere
>poorly foreshadowed
>"genuine" issue is a total joke
I see your I.Q. is lower than most anime-onlyfags.

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8man >>> Tomoya
Yukino > Megumi
Yui > Eriri
Iroha < Utaha
Haruno > Michiru
Komachi > Izumi

Doesn't seem like much of a contest, really.

Also, Saekano doesn't have lolis, it loses by default.

>>157223030
Yahari sucks, deal with it. It's too concerned with inner monologues to have interesting dialogue and direction, and that's why the genuine scene failed to resonate with many of the viewers. The anime simply couldn't properly convey the increasing distance between the club members or Yukino's increasing dependence. It's not like how Saekano regularly rewrites the LN so that it works as an anime, Yahari is a LN smashed into something that vaguely resembles an anime.

Not content to keep their cancer to their generals, yaharifags decide to shit up other threads aswell.
Not that this wasn't a shit thread in the first place, but whatever.

>>157223195
Yaharifags unironically are improving the quality of the average Saekano thread. Sad but true.

>>157223251
Bullshit.

>>157223150
>anime-onlyfag
>low I.Q.
>minority opinion
You're a riot, Megumifag.

>>157223329
Now now, don't try to imply Yaharifags don't beat Saekanofags to a pulp when it comes to discussing the story and characters of their series.

Fuck, most "Saekanofags" don't even care about Saekano and are only there for which girl makes them the hardest.

>>157223384
Excellent arguments. So this is the extent of Yaharifags. I read the Saekano LNs because the anime interested me, but Yahari's anime failed to get me interested. That's a win for Saekano, and frankly, /a/ is for anime and manga, so LNs are irrelevant. Saekano is the better anime, deal with it.

>>157215047
Nice, best girl

>>157223407
>shitposting outside of their container makes another thread better
like I said, bullshit.

>>157222959
Even if you watch only the anime, there's no way you could miss seeing Yukino's weak sides and the winking hints of cascade of an abnormal behavioral wall she puts up in S1. The biggest giveaway is notable in the way she behaves around her older sister.

>>157223474
It's not bullshit when you deal with Saekano's level of shittiness. Literally anything is better than what is normal around here.

>>157223329
>>157223474
He isn't wrong. Yahari is better in every way. Even off-topic discussions make this thread more tolerable.

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>>157223468
Just the best.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12967131

>>157223527
There isn't enough emphasis to make the genuine scene and her dependency issue in the last few episodes not sudden. That's the problem, the LN has narration to supplement, but the anime doesn't have the proper direction to convey those emotions. It's not like how Saekano takes the time to rewrite what happens so that it's not solely from Tomoya's POV like how it showed original scenes to emphasize Eriri's slump, Yahari is a by-the-book LN adaptation that doesn't take full advantage of its medium.

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Utaha > Michiru > Megumi > Izumi > Eriri

>>157223601
Sure look how awesome this thread is.

>>157222868
>When summary for volume 9 first came out, it hardly got any hate. It's only later after Utahafags turned obnoxious and militant did they went back to shit on it. It's too obvious.
>Utaha was neglected for 3 volumes until volume 10 happened and it was supposed to be a character arc for her. But she didn't develop and people criticized that and only that. Only one guy stupidly complained about the structure being it had a lot of of the same text and quotes taken from past volumes and events, but that is obviously a given since Tomoya uses materials to craft the story.
This does more than contradict what you said.

Seriously selectively nitpicking a couple of criticisms aimed at Utaha's development by Megumifags and the structure of the way vol.9 and vol.10 that was voiced by one asinine idiot as your generous consensus? You are desperate. The vast majority don't have any problems and still enjoy the series.

>not as exciting and interesting as the ambiguous charm Megumi used to have.
You are just projecting and it doesn't reflect the reactions of Megumifags in general.

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>>157219635
>thinking WA2 is a good measure for character motivation

>>157224040
Not him, but White Album 2 is a masterpiece.

Also Setsuna > Kazusa

>>157224186
Megumi > Eriri
Setsuna > Kazusa

Hmm, really makes you think.

>>157224186
>WA2
>masterpiece
It was trash. In terms of melodrama or soap opera shit, it's pretty good. But you don't see me saying Eromanga is good because it can pull off showcasing JCs well.

>>157224003
It does not contradict me. The points I made still stand. Just compare the reception of GS2 with vols 9 and 10. Almost everyone loved GS2 while only Eririfags said volume 9 was good, and nobody liked volume 10.

>one asinine idiot
Hey, I take offense on that. I was one of the people that voiced that opinion, and I know for a fact I wasn't alone, and that wasn't the only thing the novel was criticized for. There were a lot of criticism towards Akane's character as well, for several reasons. Even the Amazon reviews rated volume 10 low if you want something outside /a/ to go by. Which is why most people still agree that volume 7 was the pinnacle of the series and the second half failed to live up to expectations generated.

>projecting
Not really. Some Megumifags indeed started to feel disappointed since volume 8 for losing the mysterious and ambiguous feel to Megumi that made her interesting before. GS2 was the only novel that generated hype and praise comparable to volume 7. Not even vols 11 and 12 managed to do that.

>>157224382
>Some Megumifags indeed started to feel disappointed since volume 8 for losing the mysterious and ambiguous feel to Megumi that made her interesting before

No one felt that. V11 was almost unanimously praised, the only negative reviews on amazon are from butthurt Eririfags and Utahafags.

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>>157216474
She can't really steal what's been rightfully hers to begin with.

>>157224458
I've seen some opinions lamenting the loss of Megumi's enigmatic persona. Not saying they represent Megumifags or something like that, but they do exist. And of course, I addressed the negativity from Eririfags and Utahafags in one of my previous posts.

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>>157224628
It was her turn. The moment Erirfags had waited for two years for, the moment that would skyrocket Eriri to the top of the popularity rankings, got stolen away.

>>157224677
>https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/150070135/

Find the Megumifags that lamented.

>>157223748
The genuine scene is stupid, I'll give you that. It's a bit out of character, which was maybe the point. But there were a lot of things that lead up to that point. If you pay attention to the election arc. There are also a lot of points to Yukino's wall breaking down in the show. And while, yes, it is a bit sudden, you can't ignore that it exists. The few episodes near the end, Yukino is just sperging out because of how she warmed up to 8man.
And while, sure, a different POV is great for Saekano adapted in a medium. You can't just ignore subtle things the anime did for Yahari like the slight facial reactions and body language.

>>157224747
Those were way ealier, in volumes 8-10. But in volume 12 there were some of them that want Megumi to reject Tomoya and move on with her life instead of being a doormat that accepts whatever shit he pulls on her.

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Who cousin here?

>>157224832
No backtracking, the post was specifically about V11 and you implied there were negative opinions about it.

>>157224382
Stop trying so hard. GS2 being great in both Megumifags and Eririfags eyes doesn't undermine the fact vol.9 was still good except to Utahafags who stared to hate it much later. And the only criticisms that came out of vol.10 at the time it came out was directed at Utaha's character, which speaks nothing for consensus of the series a whole just because you say so.

Utahafags don't care and gave up, so they feel free to shit on the series and shill KM. That is an observable fact that coincides with when they started to bash vol.9 and excuse themselves from not defending vol.10.

>I was one of the people that voiced that opinion
At this point, I'm sure you are that person since you sound the same. Pretty sure the only one who seriously finds faults just because there are dialogue and scenes taken from previous volumes, which is the whole point and intentional and relevant to what Tomoya is doing creating scenarios based on his experiences. If Utahafags have shown anything, those amazon reviews of yours are quite certainty bitter and resentful Utahafags who aren't happy with the way Utaha is treated.

>Some Megumifags indeed started to feel disappointed since volume 8 for losing the mysterious and ambiguous feel to Megumi that made her interesting before.
Yeah sure. That's why they were hyped for the date and upset when Tomyoa blew them off instead of rejoicing.

>>157224978
I was talking about them feeling that way since volume 8, though. Volume 11 didn't have time for those nostalgic feelings when things seemed to finally advance, though nothing really happened in the end and only Eririfags and Utahafags threw shit at it.

>>157224974
>Utaha in a wig
No thanks

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>>157216474
You know bait aside I've seen most of the response of book 6 was for Eriri than it is for Megumi. The short scene Megumi has in book 6 wasn't enough to steal the meaningful and cute moments Erir shared with Tomoya.

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Eriri > Megumi > Michiru > Izumi > Utaha

>>157224698
>top of the popularity rankings
I'm one of the ones who have always looked look forward to it since it's a memorable moment, but no way did I say anything likes that. Nobody said or thinks that either.

>>157225030
What are you on? People said those things about volume 9 since it came out, and Megumifags were still the majority that read the LNs and summaries. Worse with volume 10, Utaha was the main problem with it, but Akane wasn't spared either. People had plenty of problems with how her character went from unbeatable boss to friendly and casual friend that reveals secret info to Tomoya nonchalantly and how her scenes were painful to read. Let's not forget that both volumes didn't advance the plot one bit and were pretty much glorified filler, so it's not a wonder why they are considered a drag and a main reason why the second half of the series is so disappointing.

That guy that used the 'same lines and dialogeu' argument is a novelfag that quoted those specific lines. My argument is that volumes 9 and 10 only rehashed shit we already knew, didn't add any new perspective and were blatant filler to stretch the series to the max, which anyone with a brain can realize.

And that's why some Megumifags want Megumi to reject Tomoya, yeah.

>>157224458
>>157225032
Eririfags here didn't shit on volume 11, so why would amazon reviews have Eririfags who did? Sounds like a lie.

>>157225526
Utahafags just love putting words in people's mouths.

>>157225654
>https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/customer-reviews/R3LLPCP4D9K7M6/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=4040720768

The guy here is either an Eririfag or an Utahafag.

>>157225238
Eririfags will be the first ones to forget about Eriri and pull the gun to shit on Megumi for "betraying" Tomoya.

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>>157225819
Please no.

>>157225798
>moonrunes

>>157225819
Animeonly Eririfags will come here and post about how Eriri is best and Megumi is a traitor.

>>157225819
We have no reasons to. We always try to reason to be understood the whole betraying thing that shitposters love to make a big deal out of. At this point Utahafags will do that to falseflag Eririfags by making xD and unprecedented posts.

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>>157226116
And Utahafags will be chilling and praising best girl Utaha.

>>157225630
>since it came out
Utter lies. Even the novelfag who wrote the sumamries didn't have any real problem with it.
>Megumifags were still the majority
Yes, and? I didn't say or imply they weren't. Volume 9 and volume 10 plays into development Megumi's character with Eriri. It gave her more traits and in turn made her even more interesting since we see a scary and troubled side. They have no reason to dislike that.
>People had plenty of problems with how her character
Yes, and most of them were Megumifags. You're not making any new points. And the only ones who are mad and shit on Akane are Utahafags because Akane shat on Utaha.
>didn't advance the plot one bit
Bullshit. Progression of the game and members of the circle is advancing the plot. Not to mention setting up Megumi and Eriri's confrontation. Nobody but you thinks otherwise.

>same lines and dialogeu' argument
Prett sure that guy is you. Your rehashing lines argument and tunnel vision that's blind to everything else is one in the same. I've never seen anyone else complains like that.

>some Megumifags want Megumi to reject Tomoya
Most don't at all. Maybe one or two simply because they think she's too good for Tomoya isn't the same thing .And of course not counting falseflagging one-liners. Doesn't change the fact consensus isn't not on your side.

>>157226456
>Utahafags
>not shitposting and inciting waifu wars uncontrollably
Joke post.

>>157226519
>Utter lies
Not really. It was blatantly apparent to everyone that most of the novel was recycled content and the only interesting parts where the ones that didn't have to do with the writing of Eriri's route, but them alone don't make the whole novel amazing or even as good as other novels. Nothing about volume 10 was praised or called good. Novelfags were shitting on volume 9 when volume 10 came out as well, https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/144442211/#144448623.

>You're not making any new points.
You're acknowledging that Megumifags criticized Utaha, and Utahafags criticized Akane. So that gives me the reason that nobody liked volume 10.

>Progression of the game and members of the circle is advancing the plot. Not to mention setting up Megumi and Eriri's confrontation. Nobody but you thinks otherwise.
Which is why people said the author just dragged out the confronation between Megumi and Eriri when volume 9 came out, right? The plot took a backseat during both of those novels to the negligible display of Tomoya's writing skills that were just summary volumes that didn't add jack to the story.

>Prett sure that guy is you
Not really. I don't care if the lines are the same, not that I can even read them in the first place. The content being an obvious and shameless rehash is apparent enough from just reading the summaries, and I wasn't the only person with such obvious complaint. This might be shocking but more than one person can agree to an opinion.

Never said consensus was on my side, just that there were Megumifags that indeed don't ship her with Tomoya and liked her better when she wasn't a haremette.

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>>157226602
But Utahafags are bros.

Just about four more hours.

>>157226905
What kind of bright idea zapped you that makes you think it's a good idea to link to your own post? You are proving my point about you being that guy. Nobody said that when vol.9 summaries came out. You stating up around the time vol.10 came out coincides exactly when Utahafags started shitting on vol.9 and Saekano as a whole while praising KM over it.

>nobody
Other things happened in volume 10 and you don't see everyone else criticizing them. So you can't claim that at all. The main point you are arguing for is claiming general consensus after volume 7, which you insist most think it's bad. That's just bullshit given most don't think that way at all despite these few cherrypicked criticisms you spout.

>dragged out the confronation between Megumi and Eriri when volume 9 came out
Hardly anyone thought and said that except haters at the time picking at it just to bash Eriri or Megumi. But they are just haters hating for the sake of it. Better and actual fans enjoyed the drama and how it was progressed and then was eventually dealt with in GS2.

>Not really.
If you say so. Either way >>144448623 is you and it snows nothing new. You say the same thing and are the only one who complains just like that.

>Never said consensus was on my side
But you did >>157222868. And it's wrong.

These fucking threads should be nuked by mods.
>>157160675
ctrl+f "utahafag" 83 results
ctrl+f "eririfag" 67 results
ctrl+f "megumifag" 49 results

This thread
ctrl+f "utahafag" 35 results
ctrl+f "eririfag" 22 results
ctrl+f "megumifag" 30 results
DISCUSSING [name_of_girl]FAGS IS META DISCUSSION IS AGAINST THE RULES. MODS, BAN THESE FUCKERS WHO DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT ANIME ANYMORE

Dropping if next episode is another drama filled episode of bullshit.

>>157228307
There will be drama, but it will be at the very end of the episode past the credits.

>>157227848
Seriously, this is getting ridiculous. I'm not that guy, I'm not a novelfag which he clearly is. Quit with the bullshit already. For one, I don't have a problem with Eriri and Utaha appearing, just not in a way that only retells shit we already know. I'm just one of the anons who has said volumes 9 and 10 were mostly filler and dragged the series out based on the summaries, and novelfags don't disagree with that. KM has nothing to do with this.

>bad
I said it's been downhill, not bad, though volume 10 was terribad. People may have been indifferent to other things in volume 10 but that doesn't mean they liked them. There was hardly any praise to the events of that volume, it was by far the most disliked one in the series. In general, the reception of the novels post-volume 7 goes GS2 >> vol 11 > vol 12 > vol 8 > vol 9 >>> vol 10.

>haters
They weren't haters, but people disappointed because the subplot between Megumi and Eriri didn't get resolved fast.

The consensus about the second half of the series not living up to volume 7's finale, not that Megumifags don't ship her with Tomoya.

>>157215047 nice bait anon

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>>157215047
>Utaha
>worst girl

HERESY

>>157228503
I said if you say so. Leave it at that.

>downhill, not bad
That sounds like your opinion and not general consensus in the way you keep trying to make it sound bad for most, which is bullshit since most people didn't voiced such opinions in any notable basis. Don't backpedal now.

You can't be serious. Haters is an instructic element within this fanbase. This was at at time before Megumifags and Eririfags became friendly after all.

And really, are you playing dumb? The original point was and still is Utahafags trying to argue and put words in other people's mouths. They have been shitting on Saekano for months. Commenting the reaction of vol.9 and making note of how different it is once Utahafags starting shitiposting was to support that fact. You keep defending Utahafags and imply Eririfags shit on the series instead.

>>157229364
It's my opinion, yes, and I'm certainly not the only person that holds that opinion, not when vols 9 and 10 were particularly panned for reasons exposed thousands of times already. And really, I haven't seen anyone claiming the second half of the series kept up with volume 7's levels of awesomeness. The general reaction is that of downhill and not living up to the potential set by vol 7. I even see novelfags here saying nips don't care about the second half of the LNs for the most part and would prefer if the anime gives a proper original closure to the series.

If you read the first volume 9 thread, you'll see a post saying the author dragged out the confrontation for another volume and it didn't come from a hater.

Nope, the point is that criticism of the series post-volume 7 isn't exclusive to Utahafags. I'm not excusing them, I'm saying they're not the only people that give shit to the execution and writing of the series in several aspects. Megumifags are the biggest critics given that most novelfags are Megumifags after all. Notice how I just said only Eririfags loved vol 9 and I don't paint them as the ones with the biggest criticisms.

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>>157224974
here

>>157215047
I believe I speak for everyone when I say Utaha is too tall and thicc and would be better without big tits.

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>>157230093
Gays out.

>>157230093
I agree.

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>>157230198
Megumi has the ideal body.

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>>157230537
Utaha is bigger so her body is better.

>>157225354
If only Eriri looked like that.

>>157230586
>bigger
That's a bad thing.

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>>157230586
Smaller and cuter = better.

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>>157230701
Megumi is already quite big. Utaha's body is more ideal.

>>157230753
We're talking about the ideal woman's body, not brat's body.

>>157230586
Utaha is too big. Megumi is perfect.

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>>157230093
>being this gay

>>157229761
>exposed thousands of times already
You are insane. A dozen or from (mostly from you) isn't anywhere close to that. It doesn't illustrate any strong opinions that conforms to your opinion at all.

Highlighted scenes like that from volume 7 are rare. That's what makes them more appreciable and memorable. You hardly see same praise from before and after for good reasons. That doesn't suddenly mean people think every other volume isn't good or without its own nice scenes, idiot. Points were already made for vol.9, GS2, and vol.11. And even with your criticisms arguments you keep hammering doesn't at all illustrate consensus. Let's not forget vol.12 that had both hype, cheers, and bitterness that was directed at Tomoya but nonetheless the confession proves wonderful.

>dragged out the confrontation
Show it and trace this opinion and see how far you'll get then.

You know exactly what you're doing and why you try to mislead away from the original point.These little and minority criticisms you bring up to cover up the point of Utahafags shitting, that is literal shitposting, on Saekano for the past year because they gave up and are salty are doing just that.

>https://my.mixtape.moe/rwyjxl.mp4

Episode 6 PV

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>>157230753
Flat is justice.

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>TWO
>EPISODES

>>157231023
>More Megumi x Eriri
>Eriri dere-dere
>Tomoya sperging because he wants Eriri for himself
>Comiket antics
I'm hyped.

The VAs sound like they are having fun.

>>157231023
So 10% Tomoya, 70% Eriri, 20% Circle focus. Looks about right.

No sign of a cliffhanger that shows Megumi leaving. They might move that at the beginning of episode 7.

>>157231000
I don't get why you're trying so hard to convince yourself only one person can criticize those novels for those painfully obvious reasons. The only strong opinion regarding those novels was exactly that, especially for volume 10 as I already stated multiple times. Go ahead then, and show me posts with differing opinions regarding them, outside of Eririfags praising volume 9. I'll wait.

>That doesn't suddenly mean people think every other volume isn't good or without its own nice scenes, idiot
How nice, calling me an idiot while missing the point this badly. The only volume with comparable hype and praise as volume 7 was GS2, we already established this. Regardless of small scenes people may have found good and enjoyable, none of the other volumes produced the same reactions and opinions as vols 6 or 7. The hype for vols 11 and 12 was lacking when you consider they were the volumes that sealed Megumi's victory and Eririfags and Utahafags fiercely dissed Megumi as a main girl, on top of some Megumifags wanting Megumi to reject Tomoya, detracting from a good reception and less a good consensus.

>Show it
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/133849871/#133851318
It's always nice to tell the truth because you knew how the threads went back then. My credibility is far higher than yours who still has yet to back up your claims.

My interjection was to stop the misinformation about Utahafags being the only ones that criticize the series. Not when Megumifags have done far more of that, and they will be the first ones to admit the series went downhill after volume 7.

>>157231319
More like the first part will be the Eriri and Tomoya scenes, and the second part is winter comiket. Megumi leaving is the cliffhanger.

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>>157231220
Serves Eriri right.

>>157231473
This is ultimate proof of Saekano popularity rankings.

Megumi > Utaha > Eriri

5 > 3 > 2 episodes

>>157231420
The comiket scene is a lot shorter than the scenes leading up to Tomoya coming over and taking care of Eriri. Megumi's leaving scene is a passing clinger, but it's a downer and would ruin the good-feeling atmosphere that's there. But we will see.

>>157231667
>but it's a downer and would ruin the good-feeling atmosphere that's there

I think they'll make it so that while it appears they're all having fun, there's tension in the air and Megumi leaving reveals it.

>>157231591
But ERiri has added scenes that Utaha don't have and they aren't restricted to her arc. Eriri is more like 2 + (x/1380 x11)

>>157231591
More like Megumi > Eriri > Utaha. Eriri gets treated better than Utaha by anime staff after all. You can bet your ass the second half of GS1 will be animated to boot.

It's time.

Restia > Est > Rinslet > Fianna > Ellis > Claire

Sylvia > Kirin > Saya > Irene > Julis > Claudia > Priscilla

Shizuku > Ayase > Nene > Stella > Touka > Kagami

Sakura > Karen > Emilia > Reitia > Liddy > Claire

Avrora > Sayaka > La Folia > Nagisa > Reina > Astarte > Yuuma > Asagi > Yukina

Airi > Yoruka > Krul > Nokuto > Tilfarr > Phi > Relie > Sharis > Celes > Lisha

Aika > Erina > Phoenix Guildy > Mikoto > Twirl > Tail-Red > Anko

Kotori > Kurumi > Nia > Yoshino > Tohka > Yuzuru > Origami mk.II > Origami mk.I > Kaguya > Natsumi > Mayuri > Miku

Chris > Eu > Saras > Seraphim > Taeko > Kanami > Haruna > Maelstrom > Naegleria > Kyoko > Ariel

Ling > Laura > Chifuyu > Tatenashi > Tabane > Cecilia > Charlotte > Houki

Math > Snake > Bat > Snail > Cat > Doll > Phoenix > Bee > Crab > Monkey

Megumi > Izumi > Utaha > Eiriri > Michiru

Pink > Orange > Black > Silver

You > Pest > Kuro Usagi > Leticia > Asuka > Shiroyasha > Lily

Kuroneko > Ayase > Kanako > Saori > Sena > Kirino > Manami

Marika > Paula > Haru > Ruri > Tsugumi > Kosaki > Chitoge

Hishoko > Rindou > Nikumi > Momo > Erina > Alice > Ryoko > Yuki > Megumi > Nene

Rem > Satella > Echidna > Beatrice > Crusch > Emilia > Ram > Priscilla > Anastasia > Elsa > Felt

Aqua > Megumin > Eris > Darkness > Yunyun > Wiz

Tomoyo > Mirei > Sayumi > Reatier > Chifuyu > Hatoko

Yoshino > Neko > Tae > Sonoka > Aki

Miko > Morgan Freeman > Bear > Oni > French > Empress

Sisti > Re=l > Celica > /jp/ > Rumia

Elf > Sagiri > Megumi > Tomoe > Muramasa

Akari > Chinatsu > Ayano > Rise > Akane > Tomoko > Sakurako > Kyoko > Himawari > Chizuru > Chitose > Yui

Aoba > Yun > Hifumi > Umiko > Shizuku > Ko > Rin > Hajime > Nene

Satania > Gab > Raphiel > Vignette

Big Nep > Noire > Nep > Pururut > IF > Vert > Blanc > Compa > Nepgear > Peashy

>>157232226
Thanks for shitting up this thread even more, haremfag.

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>>157232226
>Sisti > Re=l > Celica > /jp/ > Rumia

>Celica not absolute first and Sisti not bottom alongside Lumia

Wew lad.

>>157232095
By the time they could do GS1, they'll be balls-deep in the Megumi arc and Megumifags won't let that happen. Megumifags in Japan are noted for being the most obnoxious and sensitive of all the Japanese fanbases.

>>157232276
Oedipusfag, please.

>>157232259
But my list is always correct though. What's your point?

>>157232226
>Wrong color war

>>157232344
How is it wrong? That order is 100% accurate.
Or do you mean the show. Was there other color war harem I missed?

>>157232388
There is another colour war

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>>157232226
>Restia
>Sylvia

My nigga

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>>157232095
>this is what Eririfags actually believe

>>157232226
>Claire isn't third best at least
I stopped there.

>>157232535
This is a top-tier design right here. How can she not be the best girl?

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>>157232226
>Noire
>That high
>Nepgear
>That low
You ought to kill yourself you massive faggot.

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>>157232804
Fuck off, Gear poster. You are not welcome here.

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>>157232825
Make me

>>157231404
Except it's not about that and I never even implied that. But it's a simple observable fact those opinions you keep cherrypicking and generalizing are from you. You always use the same arguments and complaints, plus it's just a fact those criticisms are a drop in a sea compared to everything that goes on in most threads. But you insist that minority voice somehow represents a consensus. I won't let you backpedal form this point.

>missing the point this badly.
I didn't.You have enjoyable scenes and praises here and there, and almost no complaint about overall direction and story. Not having the same exact hype from certain scenes from vol.7 doesn't somehow mean gone downhill. And given the recently and current state of the fanbase that has been in decline and in a lackluster slump, you can't play dumb and act surprise at decrease in reaction.

>>133851318
And that is it? Wow, such critical criticism that you see all the time. Totally everyone's consensus there and one that means it's all gone bad and clearly shitting on Saekano. And yet in the same thread you see a lot more people who have things to talk about or enjoy. Really makes you think.

>Not when Megumifags have done far more of that
You either keep misunderstanding or simply want to mislead away from the point that Utahafags are the only ones who really and consistent shit on Saekano consistently for obvious reasons. These minority and inconsistent criticisms aren't comparable at all.

And this point of yours about downhill is just as erroneous considering most of them haven't shown such thoughts and instead always praise and enjoy the way things have been going for Megumi, all things considered.

>>157232886
>cherrypicking and generalizing
More like a summary of the opinions about those volumes. Contrary to what you believe, there isn't much more to the opinions of people that read the novels/summaries, which there aren't that many on /a/ to begin with. Unless you mean they are a drop in a sea of meta shitposting and waifuwars that plague Saekano threads, in that case you would be right but it wouldn't prove my point wrong. And nice to see you still can't support your claims by quoting different opinions on vols 9 and 10.

>you can't play dumb and act surprise at decrease in reaction.
This can be easily proven wrong with the fact that GS2 came out when the fanbase was at its worst, with mods even deleting and autosaging Saekano threads to stop the massive and cancerous shitposting, and yet GS2 was loved by almost everyone who cared about the series. The same can't be said about vols 9 and 10 that gathered more negative reactions than positive and helped solidify the sentiment that the series was getting too dragged out and stale for recurring to blatant filler that recycles scenes everyone already knows.

>Totally everyone's consensus there and one that means it's all gone bad and clearly shitting on Saekano
And again you're getting the points all wrong. You asked for proof on that particular statement and I gave it. Point me where I said that was meant to show people shitting on Saekano, I dare you. And if you look at following threads, more people will voice the opinion of the story dragging out and the volume just being rehashed filler.

And we're back to the first point, I'm not talking about hate, but legit and fair criticism. Utahafags and Megumifags are the main critics of the direction of the story in the second half. Vols 11 and 12 helped to improve things a bit, but they never reached the hype levels of vol 7 or even GS2. Plenty of people are disappointed at the safe conclusion where Eriri didn't even up a fight for Tomoya when GS2 foreshadowed it.

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>>157232732
But Claire is poop, man.

>>157215753
She will get volume 13 and the Tomoya bowl that's for sure.

>>157233452
Yeah, nah, she's great, fag. Est and Restia are the only two that are cuter save for super dere red masturbator qt.

>>157233533
Yeah, and Mayu will win KM too, am I right

>>157233746
Yuipollfag pls go.

>>157233746
Mayu winning is actually possible.

>>157233349
This is already beyond ridiculous and going nowhere. We, or rather you are going around in circles. Cut to the bottom line.
>Utahafags always do this and have been calling Saekano shit for months and complaining just to sell KM over Saekano.
>only reason Utahafags hate the series now is because Utaha lost. Their opinion is shallow, much like their taste. They are the only ones who criticizes in such a transparent manner.
These are the origin arguments, but you disagreed and denied the fact only Utahafags do that: literally shitting on it and shilling KM over the main series. Literally no Megumi has ever done that, not even close. Everyone you have shown thus far is minor and a complete stretch and still doesn't reflect the actual point.

>>157233932
My point is precisely that that isn't exactly true. It's easy to confuse Utahafags (and one Mayufag) saying KM is better and listing out reasons to explain why the main series is inferior as just shitting on Saekano, but that's not quite it. Some of those arguments fall in line with the complaints about vols 9 and 10 and the direction the story has taken shared by Megumifags. The only things Megumifags don't do is shill KM, however there are Megumifags that enjoy it, mainly because of Mayu.

Is Tomoya literally fucking gay? How the fuck has he not fucked every single member of his fucking doujin group yet?

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>>157234232
He only loves one girl.

>>157234275
He loves the 2D Megumi in the game

>>157215047
Are you actually retarded? Watching this series with CR subs is fuckin retarded.

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>>157234860
He also loves a certain someone else.

>>157234232
He's married to his dream of making a game.

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>>157221872
This page made me read KM.

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>>157235364
Kazusa a shit.

>>157235398
You don't belong here. Go away. Setsunafags and Kazusafags don't fight.

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Miss her yet?

>>157235630
She only has a few lines next episode and won't show up for the rest of the season.

>>157228244

Nice try, michirufag.

>>157236699
>Still no long hair Megumi art

Why is this allowed?

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>>157234975
Exactly!

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>>157236907
We're getting this.

>megumi has no personality
>n-no, that's wrong! here's a licture of her smiling!
Are megumifags aware how sad this looks?
>she's capable of basic facial expressions therefore she has a personality!
>>157218977
>>157218994
>>157220461

>>157237723
Thank god, you made a typo, I was just getting ready to post megumi smiling but I'll spare you the embarassment

>>157231220
Why Megumi suddenly looks lovely here?

>>157237575
May the 4th be with you, Anon.

>>157238047
She always looks lovely.