Why does this trigger everyone so hard?
It's been established like more than a decade ago that Nen can grow stronger after death.
>>157158840
It's more the fact that his brain was without oxygen and would have serious cell death than rubber restarting his heart that pisses people off
>>157158979
But that happens after around 6 minutes in and Hisoka wasn't dead for than 10.
Not impossible for a superhuman to last longer than the average human.
>>157158979
>seeking logic on a manga
>>157158840
You are implying it triggers all /a/, while in reality it's a single shitposter that is trying his hardest to make this thing a meme. Actually this specific shitposter is probably the OP himself.
>>157159398
RUBBER
>>157159773
CONDOM
>>157159773
DICK
>>157159581
It fits the logic within the series were feats deemed impossible are the norm, at least for these characters. I mean how many people have such control over their muscles that they can seal the wound shut when the limb is removed.
I don't know, I kind of accepted that Nen was their win-all by this point and it'd be used however it needed to be.
>>157158840
Because it's just a sudden huge jump in powerlevel. Remember that his nen has the properties of Rubber and Gum. And this is only rubber. We ain't even seen gun yet...
Togashi is a fucking hack
>>157160077
What jump in power level.
You think Hisoka is somehow stronger because of this
>t's been established like more than a decade ago
That's like 4 chapters ago
>>157158840
Because it's such a purposeless copout. You only kill a character for a reason and if you have to revive a character it should also serve a purpose. This screams that Togashi wasn't ready to kill off either Chrollo or Hisoka and needed a way out because he forced this fanservice fight way too early. Togashi wrote himself into a corner and couldn't follow through with the actual consequences. Nothing is different after the fight other than Hisoka's face being fucked up permanently.
>>157160545
>Togashi wrote himself into a corner
He's known for doing this shit, honestly.
>>157160176
Nen becoming stronger after death was first established back in the Yorknew arc, which was a decade ago.
>my nen has the properties of both rubber and gun
>never shoots anyone
Why is Togashi so fucking lazy?
>>157160545
>Implying the power of rubber and gum wont fix Hisokas face
>>157158840
The Dragon Ball Z ki stronger after death was established literally after Hisoka revived, the established rule before was that nen could remain even after death.
>>157158840
Anyone with half a brain can see this was lazy writing. Hxhfags try to divert the argument by saying "b-but nen getting stronger after death w-was foreshadowed" but that was never what was wrong in the first place.
You need strong emtion for nen to get stronger, but Hisoka had none of that. Now there's no reason why every nen user shouldn't be able to activate nen after death, since there's no threshold and it requires literally nothing.
>>157160545
>Nothing is different after the fight other than Hisoka's face being fucked up permanently.
Hisoka's feet and fingers are made of nen, Kortopi and Shalnark are dead.
Things are pretty different now. Hisoka is coming after Chrollo stronger than ever and Chrollo can't use the same techniques as before to beat him.
>>157160992
*emotion
I hate that nen is just as ridiculous as let's say devil fruits but people praise it like the most smart thing made in humankind story.
>I can control scissors with my nen
>now I can cut space and time with my power
>what? It was foreshadowed that I could cut things since long time ago, don't be such a speedreader
I'm fine with this but it's absurd how many people took this as anything but Hisoka getting his ass kicked
>>157160909
>The Dragon Ball Z ki stronger after death was established literally after Hisoka revived
Stop speed reading.
>>157161077
The end result is still Hisoka got a power-up and two troupe members died.
If that means getting your ass kicked then sure.
>>157160992
So what do you call Hisoka tracking down the two Spiders that led to his defeat and murdering them brutally and humiliatingly.
For the keks? No, Hisoka was very pissed that he was punked so badly.
>>157158840
Because HxH fanboys think that nen is cleverly written compared to other battle shonen powers when it's really just the same garbage.
>>157161214
What powerup?
Killing two defenseless and non-combat oriented Spiders off thier guard is a power-up?
>>157161203
What? Doesn't that page proves what i'm saying? Let me just rephrase what I said. "the established rule before was that nen could remain even after death and even stronger than it was before"
Anyways, thanks.
>>157161354
this
Nen is fucking generic af, there's nothing unique or especially well written about it at all
>>157161380
You missed that having his feet made out of Nen made him faster?
>>157161354
Nobody else's fault but your own if you're too fucking dumb to follow what happened.
It's pretty only memesters and the mouth breathing speedreaders that are complaining. Everyone else are more concerned with Hisoka eventually getting merked by Machi.
>>157161403
>Doesn't that page proves what i'm saying?
not the "stronger after death was established literally after" part
that has been disproven.
All in all it's really a pacing issue. We still don't know the real goal of Hisoka, if this bastard even has one. And the same goes for Chrollo.
So this whole battle was for nothing there was no stake. If Hisoka pulled this bullcrap and managed to kill Chrollo or something it would have been cool.
I mean even when I was fucking 10 reading the tome where Hisoka beat that moron doppleganger guy I thought that the girl switching his arm was a convenient asspull. But it was in character and it was quite satisfying.
But Chrollo vs Hisoka blue balled everyone, that's the real issue. Nothing is settled yet Hisoka pulled this crazy trick.
Tricking death should be the last thing we see from the clown. Not dropped like this, he really has no card left it seems, there are no expectation anymore.
Chrollo and Hisoka are dead for the reader I feel.
>>157161451
What? Using the properties of rubber acting as a spring board is a power-up?
>>157161511
>Chrollo and Hisoka are dead for the reader I feel.
Not for me, I'm more excited than ever for what is going to happen on the boat.
It would have been lame if the whole thing got resolved in a simple fight.
>>157161539
Yes. A thing that makes someone stronger is a power-up.
>>157161322
>tracked down
No, he just stumbled upon them outside. Nothing suggests he was tracking Shalnark and Koltopi specifically.
>Hisoka was very pissed
Headcanon. He didn't look too pissed to me.
>>157161651
He's just using his ability in a different way. He hasn't gotten stronger at all.
>>157158840
It just seems kinda pointless
>dude let's have this climactic battle that's been hinted at for a while and have it result in literally nothing
no one cares that those two literally who phantom thieves are dead either
>>157161500
The Dragon Ball ki stronger after death* which is getting stronger than before by suffering a near death experience, the rule before like you just proved was that nen could remain AFTER death, not that it would bring you back to life stronger, you fucking retard. Togashi just write as it goes at this point.
>>157161214
No, the end result isn't confirmed yet. Hisoka got his ass kicked by Chrollo in the fight.
>>157161717
In a different way that he couldn't use before. That's a power up.
(Might have some drawbacks, if someone seals his nen, he'll lose his foot and fingers.)
>>157161651
Right-o, pal.
>>157161666
Oh, this is precious. So Hisoka just happened to stumble across Shalnark and Kortopi, the two Spiders whose abilities directly led to his death barring Sun and Moon. That's denial if I've ever fucking seen it.
>Headcanon. He didn't look too pissed to me.
So his change in method in how he deals with his opponents as opposed to him letting the opponent pick the venue and prepare themselves is normal?
That's a case of you completely ignoring Hisoka's character, sorry to say.
>>157159773
DUBS
>>157161493
Machi better not die after all this is over. At least not in the hands of that goddamn clown.
>>157160997
Unless Hisoka goes on a training arc or something then nothing will change unless Togashi wants to pull some "His Nen has only become stronger after dying!" shit and then we can see the threads flooded with the same Zenkai nonsense from DBZ that's the equivalent of the Eagles going to Mordor.
His convictions haven't changed and it's not like Chrollo thinks he's dead. The fight is destined to repeat itself until one of them is dead for good. Besides couldn't Chrollo have copied Hisoka's Nen in the fight? I doubt the clown will ever have the edge unless he gets some asspull powerup.
>>157161814
If Nen can get stronger after death, and then you get resuscitated (via using your Nen or any other way), makes sense to me that your Nen would stay in that stronger state.
I don't see how that's anything new.
Yes Hisoka has a huge plot armor at this point, but it makes sense.
>>157161914
lol you sure have analyzed this comic dude
>>157161829
That's because his had actual flesh and bone for limbs, not nen.
He didn't do what Franklin did.
>>157162002
>Besides couldn't Chrollo have copied Hisoka's Nen in the fight?
Why would he do that if he was going to kill him?
To keep an ability in his book the original user must still be alive.
>>157162025
Unless you turn your brain off reading it. It's not even that hard to figure out.
Hisoka telling Machi that he's gonna resort to guerilla warfare and attacking people when they least expect is a complete 180 to how he handled fights before. Having a different perspective after you come back from the dead isn't a shocker. It happened in Game of Thrones
>>157161914
Jesus Christ, Hisokafags sure get triggered easily.
>So Hisoka just happened to stumble across Shalnark and Kortopi
In case you didn't notice, they were right outside.
Also, you're being completely retarded. I said he didn't look too pissed when issued the nen command. "Lol I guess I'm gonna die, I'd better try this out". There was no emotion behind that, it was just a gamble. It was clumsy writing at its finest.
>>157162002
>The fight is destined to repeat itself until one of them is dead for good.
Who knows what might happen?
Even if it repeat itself there's no more Gallery Fake and Black Voice.
Also it certainly will not be a 1v1 in an arena.
The action doesn't trigger me but "O MY RUBBER NEN" is fucking hilarious
I can only hope this doesn't come off as autistic in nip, though their standards are that much lower
>>157162002
You must be really deluded to think Chrollo and Hisoka are going to fight again. It's not going to happen, believe me.
>>157160668
The joke
You
>>157162248
Viz translated it as "Rubber nen, I beseech thee" IIRC
>>157162501
Not any less cringe and chuuni desu
Why the fuck is he talking to his own nen
>>157162595
To be fair, they're basically talking to their own nen every time they say their ability name.
>>157158840
>overpowered nen powerhouse proto-ant who can tank the toughest human nen user without much difficulty
>they just nuke him
Name a better shonen resolution.
>>157162169
Right outside where? How far or close do you think that park was to Heavens Arena, a 5 minute walk?
Stop being for fucking stupid. Hisoka wasn't walking in the streets and just coincidentally happened to come across those two.
>Also, you're being completely retarded. I said he didn't look too pissed when issued the nen command. "Lol I guess I'm gonna die, I'd better try this out". There was no emotion behind that, it was just a gamble. It was clumsy writing at its finest.
Hisoka rarely ,if ever, shows any emotion other than amusement. Did you expect an exaggerated expression showing how scared he is or some shit?
First time in his life he was embarrassed in such a way and he was so close on dying. His decision to kill off the Spiders already shows the change.
>>157162501
No, it was "Nen Gum, I beseech you". It still sounds pretty silly though.
>>157162595
People do a lot of weird shit when they're about to die, since all bets are off.
>>157162501
>>157162676
That's even chuunier somehow
>>157161814
Are you retarded? Hisoka's nen remained in his body after he died to perform the funtion which he commanded it to perform; to resuscitate himself. As an added bonus, Hisoka's nen became stronger due to the "nen becoming stronger after death" rule, which amounts to a power-up for him. Everything makes sense.
>>157162972
Fanboy detected.
>>157162653
It was probably pretty close by.
>Hisoka wasn't walking in the streets and just coincidentally happened to come across those two
That's exactly what he did, and it makes sense. Hisoka doesn't have some Spider-tracking ability that lets him magically know where the location of each specific Spider is. He has literally no idea where any of the Spiders are.
>Did you expect an exaggerated expression showing how scared he is or some shit?
Not exactly, but I expected a proper sign of strong emotion that justified his nen lingering. I didn't get it. It was there for Kurapika and Pitou, but not with Hisoka.
>>157162972
The whole "nen getting stronger" deal is only for the dead. Now that he's alive, his nen is back to normal.
>>157163506
>Hisoka doesn't have some Spider-tracking ability
Doesn't mean he can't search for them. Finding them then isn't a coincidence.
>>157163822
You're being deliberately obtuse at this point. He literally had no idea where any of the Spiders were when he began his hunt, and chanced upon Shalnark and Koltopi outside. There isn't any indication to suggest he singled out Shalnark and Koltopi because of their abilities, he just killed them because they were close by. Nothing more, nothing less.
>>157163506
>It was probably
Right
>That's exactly what he did, and it makes sense. Hisoka doesn't have some Spider-tracking ability that lets him magically know where the location of each specific Spider is. He has literally no idea where any of the Spiders are.
Who said anything about having a Spider-tracking ability? He's not a Hunter? He can't do any more than either Gon or Killua? He did track down the exorcist on his own without any clues.
>Not exactly, but I expected a proper sign of strong emotion that justified his nen lingering. I didn't get it. It was there for Kurapika and Pitou, but not with Hisoka.
Kurapika and Pitou(kinda iffy) show emotion far more than Hisoka has. It's was either he's controlled by his bloodlust, amused by the current situation, or flat out hard-on.
This is completely new for him. It won't be smack-you-in-the-face obvious, but his words and actions show this to be a definite change from his usual approach of fighting his opponents. He didn't just want to go after Chrollo again, but he wants to kill off every single Spider whether they are prepared for it or not. How this plays out for him the future is anyone's guess but I can assure you Chrollo won't be coming at him with kid gloves.
The spiders don't exactly keep a low profile, what would murdering the entire mafia and planning on robbing a royal family. It should be pretty easy to track them down.
>>157164186
>He literally had no idea where any of the Spiders were when he began his hunt
He must have known they were close considering his exchange with Machi.
>>157158840
>It's been established like more than a decade ago that Nen can grow stronger after death.
Yes which is why It's absurd chrollo overlooked it while seeing it first hand before. Hisoka is a strong guy so he should have properly killed and then watch him for a while. Had hisoka had internal organs actually damaged he would never be able to jump start his heart. Chrollo is a thorough guy so it made no sense he didn't make sure nothing would happpen
>>157158979
It happens in real life all the time and we don't have superpowers.
HxH is 2deep4u.
>>157164452
Properly killing an opponent doesn't deny the activation of post-death nen and you have to admit using it for revival isn't really something you would ever be prepared for as I don't think there was a precedent for it. He did leave his minions to watch for him, they were just incompetent at it.
>>157164452
He can be pretty near-sighted when he thinks he's achieved his goal.
>>157160077
Nya!
>>157164230
>He did track down the exorcist on his own without any clues
It was Kalluto who tracked the exorcist down. It all makes sense now, you're an actual fucking speedreader. I'm done arguing with you.
>>157164359
Machi never mentioned them. You really don't need to go this far to justify your headcanon.
>>157159773
NEN
>>157164610
>Properly killing an opponent doesn't deny the activation of post-death nen
But would you would know you killed him properly with your own hands, he didn't even do it directly himself and just left 5 mins later. It's mainly the fact he just left without checking him out for a while since it was obvious people like Hisoka might pull up with the nen after death bullshit. He wouldn't be prepared for it but he should have expected something and if something does happen his minions won't be able to take care of it alone. If you really think Chrollo knows his team can handle Hisoka without him he would have set them to kill him ages ago or just gang rape with the team there.
All i'm saying the guy left way to quickly
>>157164691
But like, that was before he personally witnessed nen after death though. I would have expected him to wait for a reaction or took it in to account
>>157164760
I jumbled it up, you whiny cocksucker.
That doesn't refute my core point. Thinking Hisoka couldn't track them down on his own is fucking stupid.
>>157164760
>Machi never mentioned them
Why would Machi be the only member to be around to watch the fight? It's not a stretch for him to search for other members near the arena.
>>157164978
Remember we know how Hisoka's body remained intact after the fact. I don't think it would cross his mind how he could possibly be on one piece after all that.
There are people in this thread who think Hisoka had a chance
>>157164978
The Nen after death thing is extremely rare, Hisoka took a gamble and it worked. It so happens than since he was dead for a few minutes his nen became stronger when he came back. He even had the troupe watching his corpse.
I really liked how the events turned out, people on /a/ just can't enjoy things.
>chrollo has an ability to teleport people
>he decided to not include this in his specific rotation
Could have ended the fight in minutes
In order to beat Hisoka, Chrollo had to:
>get Hisoka to have his nen exorcised
>delay the fight forever so he can get specific abilities
>pick a particular location for the fight that lets him do OP shit with these particular abilities that he tracked down
>sacrifice hundreds, possibly thousands of innocent people
>literally cheat even with all the leniency hisoka gave him
And he still failed to kill Hisoka cause he was a fucking dumbass.
>>157158840
The whole rubber nen thing is just funny as hell, I've always loved bungee gum.
>>157165362
This is all true. I can't wait to see Hisoka hunting down the troupe. It's going to be hilarious to see Feitanfags crying when the jester beheads bargain Hiei in two panels.
>>157165233
>The Nen after death thing is extremely rare
Yeah since it only happens with people with strong convictions and emotion which was obvious with someone like Hisoka, guy went out his way to heal chrollo just to fight him and then even accepted the disadvantaged conditions since he's so damn battle hungry with top tiers, i don't why he didn't personally check him out himself. He was the guy who bugged him for years but he just kicks out of the arena right away.
>>157165362
>implying
He could have used this>>157165285
And mix it with any ability and would be a 1 hit KO
>>157165362
Also
>probably cheat by having Shalnark Machi and Kortopi help him during the fight
Can't prove it right now, but I'm sure he did it.
>>157165450
Can't wait for Chink Hiei to behead and/or roast Suzuka's sexual deviant cousin
The "Chrollo cheated" headcanon is still alive and strong?
>>157165691
Hisoka shills need to find an excuse
>>157165691
>headcanon
It's completely real though, there's not only plenty of evidence, the fight literally does not make sense logically if at least kortopi is not there.
>>157165691
Just leave, this thread is filled with autistic Hisokafags. The butthurt is still strong.
>>157165754
>leader is from a group of international criminals
>h-he cheated
Multiple keks
>>157165691
Yeah sure, it's a complete coincidence that Kortopi and Shalnark were there.
>Hisoka gets ONE (1) decent hit in on Chrollo the entire match
>Chrollo kicks the living shit out him multiple times
>Stomps on his face
>Puts him on the ruse cruise
>Blows his hand off
>Blows his leg off
>Literally baseball pitches audience members at him
>He even has the time to try on different clothes
>Does Michael Jackson poses while dodging his attacks
>9/11's the shit out of him
>Styles on him so bad he doesn't even have to fight
>Even that ONE (1) decent hit was used to fuck him over in the end
>Outright kills him with no effort at all
>The clown is so salty and frustrated over being BTFO so easily by Chrollo that he resorts to killing his friends but is too much of a weak pussy to go after Chrollo himself
And deluded Hisocucks think their pedoclown is anywhere near Chrollo's level? AYY LMAO!
>>157165890
>>157165754
>m-muh 50 bazillions vs 1
>nevermind the fact that Chrollo said that he'd give Shalnark his ability back, proving that he did borrow them using Skill Hunter
It's been a whole year and Hisocunts are still in denial. You can't make this shit up.
>>157166045
It's pretty proven that he had the abilities at the start of the fight.
But you can't prove or disprove that he didn't give back at least one of them during the time he was hidden in the crowd.
Or that Machi didn't help him by retreiving an antenna with her string.
>>157165901
"STOMP!!! STOMP!!! STOMP!!! STOMP!!!
A SAVAGE STOMPING!!!"
>>157165901
>chrollo uses 7 abilities kill him, the most he's ever used
>he cheated
>he sacrifices thousands of people
>fight is an extremely drawn out battle
>still failed to actually kill hisoka, which was the goal, and thus did not technically even win
>chrollofags think this is BTFO hisoka
>>157166045
He definitely gave back the ability to Kortopi at sometime in the middle of the fight, the fight does not follow logically if he does not. As for the other ones it's not clear, it's possible that Shalnark somehow has another similar/identical cell phone/ability which is why some of the needles didn't have batman on them
>>157158840
A) Because it was a meme before it happened
B) Because asking your naturally-developed superpower to do an extremely specific favor for you as if you are negotiating with an actual person is still awkward to people no matter who does it. Kurapika, Alluka, Hisoka, people have complained whenever it happened, so this is nothing new.
It's like asking your leg to detach itself from its socket and spin like a propeller. MAYBE you could train it with magic shonen powers but there is a limit on suspension of disbelief while still trying to present Nen as a natural power and not a Jojo stand.
>>157166158
>>157166277
Just stop, it's embarrasingly obvious you're trying to damage control your favourite pedoclown getting humiliated.
>and thus did not technically even win
my sides
Read the interview, Togashi confirmed Hisoka lost.
>He definitely gave back the ability to Kortopi at sometime in the middle of the fight, the fight does not follow logically
Jesus Christ, the mental retardation of Hisokafags knows no bounds. Koltopi could not have had the ability becuase he doesn't fucking know where the Order Stamped puppets are. Chrollo is the only person who could have created the copies and stamped them with Order Stamp. The fight is explained perfectly in the manga and everything flows logically. It's a 1v1.
>Togashi Sensei: In the recent story, Hisoka actually loses and then comes back to life. Once I decided to take the story in that direction, the gum and rubber really came in handy. Being able to bring out my ideas out convincingly is very important.
>>157166555
>>157166599
>togashi
>being smart
If the goal in a deathmatch is to kill the opponent, then Chrollo can not logically have won, because Hisoka is alive. What Togashi says has no bearing, it's just common fucking sense.
>>157166672
>I'm smarter and know better than the writer guys
Hisokafags are worse than Killuafags
>>157166672
But he did die. What happened after doesn't matter because it's now a completely different deal.
>>157166672
>Togashi is dumb because it doesn't fit my autistic delusions
And I thought Hisokafags couldn't sink any lower.
>>157166760
>I can't refute basic logic so I'm referring my opinion to an authority figure, even though that statement doesn't address the crux of the argument
>>157166842
how could he be dead, if he's currently alive? His heart just stopped beating for a little bit.
>>157166760
If the writer hails from the literal land of autism and writes children's books is it really that far fetched?
>>157166915
Because he revived himself from death using the concept of nen getting stronger after death. This is both confirmed in the manga and by the author himself.
Hisoka died and lost. Why can Hisoka accept this but deluded Hisokafags can't?
what nen rules exactly prevent a stupid ability like a death note?
>>157167039
He deliberately planned to resuscitate his organs prior to Chrollo delivering the "killing" blow. Meaning, logically, Chrollo did not "kill" him, he just made his heart stop beating for a bit, but did not actually ensure a death state. Ergo, he did not win the match, because the goal of the match is to kill the opponent. What Togashi said means nothing.
>>157166938
>>157166915
Hisoka clearly asked his nen to activate after his death. At this point you're being literally retarded.
>Hisoka is Royal Guard level. H-he could probably fight Meruem but Togashi didn't put him in the arc.
>W-we didn't see his full power.
This was the greatest fight that could have ever happened.
>>157167213
>hisoka fucking died against a manlet
>>157167173
But I don't have any gripes with that? I simply addressed the comment on the author's immunity to being questioned
Kurapika is stronger than both
>>157167236
To be fair, Meruem is a manlet too.
>>157167213
Don't forget
>this fight is a flashback
>Chrollo isn't fighting fair
>he is important to Gon/the story
>Hey guys look at this painting that means Hisoka will win!
>h-he's a main character
>muh 33432432vs1
Hisokafags are an infinite source of butthurt, you could power an entire city with it.
So at their current level right NOW who's getting beaten?
>>157165691
It isn't cheating if you don't get caught.
Not like Chrollo cares anyway. He just wanted to kill Hisoka, not have a fair fight.
Remember the mafia assassins?
>Chrollo: "I don't use traps."
>Said after luring a guy into a sealed room for Indoor Fish
>>157167090
It could have properties similar to Genthru's remote detonation ability.
There'd have to be pretty extreme conditions though.
>>157167358
In terms of physical skills Killua should stomp, unless he gets Kurapika mad or something. However, we don't know what that one chain does, Kurapika hinted it could be some pretty edgy stuff, so it's hard to say.
>>157167294
Hisoka lost the fight you retard. It's obvious as fuck, and your favourite pedoclown has accepted it himself.
>>157167426
Nigger can you fucking read? I have zero gripes with the fight, at no point in this entire thread have I addressed it. Kill yourself.
>>157167362
Obvious falseflag is obvious. It was a 1v1 you idiot.
Did Togashi give up on janken? Is all this crap with Gon's nen so he can give him a new ability?
>>157167090
None.
>>157167513
God I hope
>>157167090
Nothing. Nen is literally whatever Togashi decides it is.
Predictions on how this arc is going to go? I think it will be something like this:
>hisoka kills all the spiders in shot
>hisoka kills all the zodiacs in one shot
>hisoka kills ging, pariston, and beyond and their whole crew in one shot
>hisoka goes to the DC
>hisoka kills don in one shot
>hisoka kills the calamities in one shot
>hisoka kills the DC in one shot
I think it'll be something like that, I'm a bit biased though since Kurapika is my favorite character.
>>157167313
Would not surprise me, Togashi made him OP
>>157167313
>implying
In all seriousness, Kurapika would lose against any combat-oriented Spider. They know his trump card, they won't fall into his trap.
>>157167755
Hisoka ravages all the shota booty in his reach.
>>157158840
It's awfully drawn.
>>157167859
Is Kurapika even reaching the DC? I can't see him lasting long in a boat with spiders and the princes.
>>157168017
In my opinion, he'll survive but he won't be involved with the real Dark Continent. He'll definitely go through hell on the boat though.
>>157160077
I want to fuck Pitou
>>157168276
Where would your penis go?
>>157168017
Kurapika is done once he gets back Pairo's head from prince Bateman.
How far after the chimera ant arc does this fight happen? The phantom troupe was the only part of the series i liked.
>>157168473
It's pretty much the most recent thing, there was just like 3 chapters about Kurapika after the fight.
>>157158979
and t b h Hisoka seemed alittle brain damaged after he came back
>>157168311
In da catpuss
>>157160163
His new nen-made body parts seem more versatile than regular limbs, since they've got the properties of both rubber and cum.
>>157168713
>puss
You seem to be confused anon
>>157168737
Its rubber and gun
>>157167213
>Hisoka is Royal Guard level
He would make an amazing puppet that's for sure.
>>157168311
tight bugpussy
You'd need to dedicate an entire hatsu to penetrate that iron hymen.
>>157168750
n-no
>>157161539
Rubber does not work like a fucking spring, dude
>>157169025
Explain Luffy.
>>157169092
Shit writing, what is there to explain? Just because OP did it doesn't override the reality of what rubber can do
>>157169198
Did you forget that Bungee Gum has the properties of both rubber AND gum? The gum aspect gives it it's springy quality.
>>157168918
>Pitou will never use her powers to make you her personal sex slave
>>157165901
>Does Michael Jackson poses while dodging his attacks
kek Chrollo's got style
>>157169350
Gum doesn't work like a spring either. What the fuck are you going on about
if hisoka can make new limbs why don't he make 2 more arms so he can bungee better?
>>157169350
Togashi, that weasel
>>157167358
You have to realize Killua is now top tier thanks to his Godspeed. He'd chop off Hisoka or Chrollo's heads in literally less than a sec
>>157169466
Gum can stretch and contract, which allows it to perform motion similar to that of a spring.
>>157168737
>His new nen-made body parts seem more versatile than regular limbs
this isn't really a jump in power and if so not a very big one now if his entire body was like his new limbs that'd be different he'd be like luffy.
>>157167547
Hopefully Gon stays crippled and has to go through some actual training only to see how Zushi is now way stronger than him.
>>157169709
He deserves to be weaker than Zushi, it'll take him years just to get his old strength back.
>>157169709
>boat AND training arc at the same time
This place will implode.
I'm more annoyed by how shit the fight was.
Literally no reason for it to be set in the battle tower other than to give Chrollo a massive advantage. On top of that he even got a powerup. Seems like Togashi couldn't come up with another way for him to beat Hisoka which frankly makes him a bitch.
Also two fucking chapters of him explaining his fucking powers...
>>157169560
Ok buddy. Let me see you buy a pack of gum, stick it under your shoes and perform that olympic jump
>>157170026
Why are you comparing magic super gum to shitty regular gum?
I just want to know what the fuck happens on the last floor on the arena.
Fucking Togashi and his epileptic storytelling.
>>157169466
That means it has compression and elastic properties akin to a spring due to its rubber and gum nature.
>>157170111
Oh, so now it isn't "Rubber and gum" anymore but "Rubber and super magic gum"? Nice asspull pal, you clearly learned from the best
>>157170005
He's the writer, he could come up with a million ways to beat hisoka. He could've gotten hit by an ambulance and died if the writer wanted.
>>157170005
>A place made for combat
>Somehow wrong venue for a fight
Hisokunts will never recover
could kite nen after death
>>157170148
I wonder how far Zushi went up guess it doesn't matter since Chrollo blew it up
>>157167426
Plus Hisoka literally killed the referee, so that's not helping the clown cause.
>>157167345
>important to Gon
What's weird is that there are people acting like Gon and Hisoka have some fated showdown because of that one line over 300 chapters ago.
>>157169092
>>157169198
Rubber absorbs shock, and bounces well. Haven't you ever seen a "bouncy ball"? Baseballs and tennis balls use/used rubber on the interior for similar reasons.
>>157160992
It's not a foreshadow it's just a rule that can appear anyway in the story. And Nen can have rules applied to it like to activate after death in this situation and in this case it was in a way that would revive Hisoka. Yes anyone can be a martyr to do something crazy with their nen but they'll still die, while Hisokas purpose here was to revive. Now Hisoka knows a lot more about Chollo, has killed 2 spiders and Chollo thinks that he's dead.
>>157170324
Buddy, it's aura that mimics the general properites of those two substances; it's not a carbon copy. Obviously, it's far more powerful than regular bubble gum. You can't kill people with bubble gum. Does this really need to be explained to you, retard?
>>157170953
Also, compression and expansion are just two sides of the same coin. If you're good at one you're good at the other. Look at balloons.
We don't generally make rubber springs because it wouldn't retain its shape. They're something more solid like metal. But it might make sense for someone who can actually magically control the rubber.
>>157170462
I wonder if Zushi is still alive.
>>157161406
What's an example that's more intricate and interesting that's not just
>we'll change it here for convenience
During any fight in HxH you can observe anyones moves and figure out so much based on what you learn about nen. That's super fucking interesting to me.
Literally I'd like some examples of other interesting power. Dragonball has almost no stated rules, tho some can be implied. Naruto has some setup and eventually through elements into the mix but just about anything can be done. Bleach doesn't have much going on just whatever. I don't know much about Haki in One Piece but there are 3 forms of it and crap. Yuyu Hakusho (Togashis last work) doesn't explain too much but it's almost a precursor to nen while fewer stated rules. Pokemon who the hell knows.
>>157171389
>yfw zushi joins the spiders
>>157159398
GOODNESS
Why can't Togashi write reinforcers? Besides Palm they're all some type of "I can hit really hard".
>>157169436
Gosh the possibilities
>>157171681
>yfw he's stronger than kalluto
>>157160545
You're a massive retard if you think he didn't plan out the end of the match the moment he started writing it.
>>157161511
This is what I like in Hisokas character, it's really simple, and the clear motivation in everything he's ever done. He wants to fight strong opponents.
Near the end of greed island they touch on what kind of person he is a bit. Bisky says there are two types of liars ones who are trying to hide something and those who lie for the sake of lying. Hisoka is not a very complicated character and it's what makes him so a strong one for me.
A fight isn't who hurt the other one more, Hisoka learned about Chrollo and how strong he is obviously fully expecting to lose, now Hisoka can figure out a way to get back at him, plus this was maybe the greatest spectacle of a fight in the series in the process.
>>157171845
>reinforcers
They're called Enhancers, you fag.
>>157171905
This was obvious in both interviews with Ishida and the Jump Giga one
>>157171961
t. kuroro lustilfer
>>157172075
Fuck off, asspull clown.
>>157162972
>As an added bonus, Hisoka's nen became stronger due to the "nen becoming stronger after death" rule, which amounts to a power-up for him
Everything you said except this retarded bit is right
His only feats after coming back is using his nen in ways we haven't seen but there's no reason to assume he couldn't before and killing defense-less people.
>>157162016
I interpreted it as he would not be able to something like bring himself back to life without death nen and he just has normal nen after coming back but maybe his nen is stronger now. We may never know...
>>157162639
this resolution sounds familiar. Wonder where I've heard of it before
>>157169709
>actual training
Gon's scenes are 1/3 training at least.
>>157165362
I honestly think that's pretty cool. Cooler in fact than just slapping the shit out of him.
>yfwTogashidies
>>157163506
My thought is just the nen he used to come back is effected and will remain that way, anything else is just him producing more nen.
>>157165691
And to think people were originally so happy the fight did end before hiatus hit. Instead we got this endless theoryfag debate that never got close to dying for a whole year.
>>157165196
THANK YOU
>>157165285
>>157165614
What ability is that again?
>>157172508
>yfw togashi writes dwun dying into the plot and togashi dies in real life in the exact same way
>>157161354
This is why the cosmos is my favorite shounen power. It fully embraces its sillyness and Kurumada's autism make Saint Seiya characters into the most OP shounen characters in history without needing more explanation than lol cosmos = willpower. Shounen is dumb in general
>>157170660
Hisoka has been irrelevant for a long time so fans want to connect him to Gon as his fated rival.
I liked Hisoka a lot at the beginning when he was an uncontrolable beast and his fight with Gon on the Heaven Arena was great but the character has been stagnated for a long time. He's a Hannibal Lecter wannabe getting away with everything because fujoshits and edgy teenagers love him. He has become into The Joker of HunterxHunter
>>157173180
He is nothing like the Joker or Hannibal Lecter. He's basically just Goku.
>>157173180
Killua is Gon's rival. Alluka will die and he will turn bad without Gon's emotional support.
>>157172719
>What ability is that again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwK099FLwQo
This was the only time i recall he ever uses it, seems useful as hell.
Was on chapter 106 though
>>157169709
>actual training
fucker he trained for months at a time several times
>>157173236
Yeah, Hisoka really is like a sinister exploration of someone like Goku. It's nice.
>>157173340
I don't know how the hell Gon is supposed to compete with Killua anymore then.
>>157158840
EEY YO mah rubbah nen! Don't make me tells you twice, rub my heart 'n lungs 'n shieet.
>>157158979
>It's more the fact that his brain was without oxygen and would have serious cell death
what is the lazarus sindrome?
>>157158840
>Why does this trigger everyone so hard?
Because it felt like a copout
I've read the Chrollo vs Hisoka fight like 3 times now and I still can't really understand it. Some of this "art" is barely comprehensible
>>157174647
Hisoka is using his nen proprieties of rubber and gum to tie human bodies together and swing them like a flail.
>>157174647
Maybe the problem lies within you.
>>157174905
No, I think it lies with Togashi being a shit.
>>157174905
This.
Brainlets can't comprehend clear panels for some reason.
>>157158840
>Why does this trigger everyone so hard?
>I want the drama of killing a character, but without actually killing him.
Sure it isn't as shit as all the capeshit deaths / returns, but it's still pretty bad. If you're gonna kill a character, fucking kill it.
>>157174168
a meme
Let me get this straight? Pika wants to kill all the spiders because they killed his clan, I get that, but the spiders must have like so many more enemies than that?
Like Chrollo killed thousands of people in this fight alone, he's killed many more people than that. He probably produced more than a few angry young dudes willing to kill him in that fight alone.
They should have people coming after them nonstop.
>>157175206
>Hisoka is basically a disembodied head
>Clear panels
>>157175299
They're all off doing their own shit when Kuroro doesn't gather them together so they've probably bumped into people who want them dead
>>157175299
Most of the people they kill are just your average joes and average joes can't do shit, people with a decent amount of power do go after them (i.e mafia community)
>>157162972
I honestly don't understand why people don't get this. All the rules were followed, and Nen is never the same.
>>157175299
Why organizations don't go after them is explained during Yorknew. As for random dudes, it's not as if there's a lot they can do. You'd probably need someone skilled in nen to be at least able to find them.
Someone has the Michael Scott as Chrollo pic?
>>157173532
>>157172225
>He trained for months
>Gon's scenes are 1/3 training at least.
Are you fucking stupid? For a normal nen user it would take years to accomplish what he did in just a couple of months. Look at Zushi. He's somewhat talented yet Gon surpassed him in no time.
>>157176966
>Look at Zushi. He's somewhat talented yet Gon surpassed him in no time.
Wow I wonder why
>>157176966
GEE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF GON IS EVEN MORE TALENTED OR SOMETHING. Wing fucking says so right there.
99% of the complaints you see about HxH is because people either are too retarded, don't pay attention to the series or a combination of both.
>>157176191
Nobody seriously says Gon-san is an asspull. Someone got really triggered to make that image.
The asspull is Alluka healing Gon for free because of onii-chan power.
>>157167859
His first win was against the most combat-oriented Spider.
>>157177218
>Nobody seriously says Gon-san is an asspull.
You serious? Before O MY RUBBER NEN happened that was the prime discussion material for asspulls talk.
>>157177356
>falling for bait that hard
>>157177413
>Falling for bait
If only anon, if only it were just bait and not people being legitimately retarded.
>>157177453
Why are you arguing with people who are legitimately retarded?
It's not like they actually understand what they are talking about.
>>157177567
Who said I argued with them? I'm only commenting on what I've seen.
Could it be there's no chapter and he's just redrawing o my rubber nen?
>>157174647
What is incomprehensible?
How would Hisoka had fared against the ants?
>>157177688
There's no confirmation that the manga is going to resume yet, just that the new volume is finally coming out
It might have redraws
>>157177751
which ants
>>157165362
>And he still failed to kill Hisoka cause he was a fucking dumbass.
you can't beat plot armor
>>157158840
It triggers people who haven't read the manga carefully enough Because they think it's an asspull when it's entirely established that Nen can do this.
It triggers people who have read the manga carefully enough because it's entirely an asspull that someone as competent as Chrollo wouldn't behead Hisaka to be as certain as possible he was dead/
>>157177751
He'd kill them all except the Royal Guard and Meruem
>>157178400
He would have killed the Royal Guard
>>157178536
>He would have killed the Royal Guard
stop
>>157178690
He probably could have killed post rose meruem desu
>>157179302
you willing to bless us with an autistic essay supporting these claims cause i'm down to listen even if you're baiting.
>>157179498
His nen contains the properties of both rubber and gum
>>157179577
oh
>>157159773
DILDO
>>157179721
>oh
my
>>157179922
gosh
>>157179577
It also becomes stronger after death. Royal Guard doesn't stand a chance.
>>157169014
looks like boobies to me
case closed
So does Pariston have any fighting skills? He says he has none, but I doubt you can become a 3 star hunter, zodiac, and 2nd in Beyond's crew without any fighting skills.
>>157162103
Wrong. Chrollo was using the powers of dead people and even said the quote himself, nen getting stronger after death which inspire hisoka during the fight to try it out on himself. But for no explainable reason it's only *certain* nen that gets stronger after death. Just utter BS at this point with no structure.
>>157160077
gender bending female pitou? I approve
>>157180092
becky
>>157180966
look at thatRUBBER NEN
The cutest
>>157161666
to be fair hisoka is not very conventional or predictable when it comes to showing his emotions
>>157181905
well he has like what, 4 emotions? excited, smug, bored and confused?
>>157177329
Kurapika only won against uvo by tricking him. Now that the Spiders know his ability, Kurapika has no chance against the top tier Spiders.
>>157181614
>The cutest boy
FTFY
>>157176966
Almost every arc has him training, GI arc had him training for months for fuck's sake. You're fucking retarded.
>>157176994
>>157177113
Yes dickheads, I'm talking about his talent, congratulations on finding that out yourself. Now that you know that, imagine him having that talent ripped away from him. If he wants to attain the same level he had before, now it's going to be even harder, and by the time that happens, Zushi will be way stronger than him. Do you understand now you bunch of actually retarded cock sucking bridge ogres?
>>157184589
That's just unfair, anon, Pitou can't be the cutest girl AND the cutest boy. Give some credit to the actual boys of the series, don't be greedy.
>>157184852
See: >>157185028
>>157185129
>Pitou can't be the cutest girl AND the cutest boy
Uh, that's not how gender works, it's usually like a one or the other thing. And. in the case of Pitou here, it's the latter
>>157184589
>boy
You know what, I don't even care at this point.
>>157185218
You don't care that you're attracted to a male? Most people care, one way or the other, but I guess in the grand scheme of things it's nothing to get hung up over.
>>157185177
I know that's not how things work, but if you're gonna highlight a female character like Pitou and call her a cute boy then you're quite obviously trying too hard.
>>157185366
What do you mean, anon? Pitou is canonically a male. The databook refers to him with a male pronoun. It's just the anime gave him some small boobs so he looks a little cuter.
>>157158840
bad presentation
the battle where he dies should have been more dramatic, and the guy should had been hyped more
>>157185479
Overplaying your hand like that won't make this fun for anyone, no one's going to fall for that stale bait, everyone knows by now that Pitou is female in manga canon since Togashi alone did in fact give her tits. You could've played coy for a little longer but now you just look like an idiot.
>>157185609
>chrollo vs hisoka wasn't hyped enough
What the fuck am I reading
>>157176444
late but here you go
>>157185683
Databook explicitly referred to him as male. He uses boku. Togashi gave him very small bust in like a few panels. Most of the time he's flat, togashi's art is not consistent. He's male.
>>157185854
>very small bust in like a few panels
Neferpitou confirmed female.
>>157185988
The insecurity is strong in this one.
>>157186077
Feel free to continue projecting if it makes you feel better. But at the end of the day, the tits mean Pitou's female. That's all there is to it.
>>157158840
I'm glad he's alive desu, because that was a shitty fight. it made sense for Kuroro to fight that way, but jesus christ it was awful.
female
Can Hisoka beat Biscuit?
>>157186381
Absolutely.
>>157176966
One of Zushi's problems is his teacher.
Wing is good for the introduction to nen, but for serious training he's useless. The guy thought Gon's battle with a bottom tier cripple was "years too soon" for fuck's sake.
>>157185745
peoples reaction should have been:
>I knew Hisoka would pull a crazy nen trick
instead of
>there is no way nen could work like that
>>157160163
>nen is stronger after death
>Hisoka died and came back to life
>his nen is stronger than before and his limbs are made of rubber
duh
>>157187344
>his nen is stronger than before
Why do people keep repeating this dumb meme.
His nen is the same. The whole "nen after death is stronger" works only for the dead. Hisoka just has a rubber foot. That's it.
>>157167755
Everyone will die in DC, or at least most of the characters. Think about it, DC has been hyped to be a place where death is at every corner and very few people to even none at all survive.
Why do you REALLY think Gon and Killua are left behind?
>this thread
wew Hisocucks are literal crybabies.
>>157188247
This is how HxH threads go now:
>(with no provocation) haha hisocucks BTFO wow I can't believe how BTFO the pedo clown is
>well you know there's some pretty serious hints chrollo was chea-
>hahaha what are you delusional? fucking hisocucks such crybabies hahaha xD
>pitou is a girl
>no it's not
>yes it is
>no it's not
>O MY RUBBER NEN
>asspull asspull asspull
>>157188403
cry more hisocuck.
>>157188403
>serious """hints"""
You could refute these a hundred times and you'd still find Hisocucks clinging on to their fanfiction.
Hisoka is going to kill all the spiders
>>157189846
He's going to kill them very hard.
I think it would have been badass to have the champion of the arena come and stop the fight. He could be some super beast who believed in fair matches in the arena setting and didn't approve of killing people in the crowd, so he stops chrollo and hisoka.
He wouldn't have to kill them (or shouldn't have been capable of taking them both on, but maybe was a bit above their level so he was atleast able to get them to stop) but just broke it up after getting pissed at them for messing up his beloved arena that he is at the top of.
Since Togashi wrote himself into a corner with the fight this would be a much better copout and would be a great time to introduce whoever the beast was at the top of the tower.
>>157190610
if it were naruto, yeah
>>157174647
ever twirled a towel and slapped your friend on the butt with it in the changing room?
that's what he's doing
>>157190763
Man, how good is naruto right?
>>157158840
The real asspull was Sun & Moon blowing up the head. That makes less sense and has more worrying implications than O, My Rubber Nen.
O MY RUBBER NEN
>>157185609
He didn't actually die. There's no living character but Ging more hyped than Chrollo.
>>157185854
>He uses boku.
Weak bait.
>>157186381
Biscuit is canonically stronger.
>>157187344
His limbs being rubber isn't really a buff, because he could've done something like before, except now he needs to be doing it all the fucking time, which'll eat away his stamina.
>>157180552
That was just a happy accident that he kept the power from the dead nen user.
Plus what use would chrollo have with fucking rubber.
>>157167294
you are legitimately retarded
>>157192636
How? Chrollo affixed the seals to the body, so the entire body blows up. The explanation given in the manga makes sense.
>more worrying implications
What implications? If anything the ability has lost much of its potential. He can't force people to touch the seals anymore now that he's lost the use of his manipulation abilities.
>>157174647
Has he switched to digital?
It's definitely worse than before.
>>157193441
>take a book
>mark the inner side of pages on opposite ends of the book
>remove every page between them
>use a stolen conjuration hatsu to hold the book together so the tattoos touch and charge, but would release should the conjured item be removed
>travel around spreading pages or pieces of pages everywhere
>once out of paper, get somewhere safe
>dispel the conjured item
>everywhere you placed paper explodes
>tfw when no Chrollo vs Hisoka OVA
>>157193746
I was under the impression Chrollo could only use it on humanoid objects like humans and puppets. If he can use it on literally anything then I agree it's overpowered.
Also
>use a stolen conjuration hatsu to hold the book together so the tattoos touch and charge, but would release should the conjured item be removed
That's not how the ability works. Chrollo has to take his time when applying the marks to charge them. The amount of time the marks touch each other have nothing to do with the magnitude of the explosion.
>>157159368
>more than 10
Do you have numbers for this?
They had to stop the match. Confirm 'death' for match purposes. Move body to room (be it the hotel or some spare room in the arena), get the remaining members to this room, each verify he's dead, have a chat about what to do next, then have everyone leave and machi stay to fix him up. All of that took way longer than 10 minutes, he's brain dead, really badly. None of this 'he's breathing really slowly' bullshit, this is a gaggle of expert killing machines, some with medical knowledge.
>>157193986
My bad, I remembered the ability incorrectly. It's been awhile. It doesn't really change what I said, though. I don't remember it saying it had to be humanoid. Even if it did, does it matter? Conjure a mannequin and cut it up into pieces.
>>157193986
I just realized Chrollo can just apply the marks on literally anyone he sees and they'd be stuck with it for the rest of their lives. Sun and Moon really is OP.
so cute
>>157195080
Nen after death is so retarded
>>157195114
I have a sinking feeling that this is just a prologue for an even bigger asspull concerning "nen after death" in the future.
Is there an updated version of this?
>>157177218
Whats stopping all nen users to light up all their potential with a cruel oath like Gon's to take their enemy down with them? Wouldn't that simply mean that death matches between nen users would be like 90% certain for both of them to die?
>>157196325
Because not everyone wants to essentially commit suicide like Gon.
>>157196420
But they're facing certain death, so there's not much to lose, might as well drag the opponent down with you
>>157195376
>no.3
What? He hands a piece of paper to Neon in the manga, while he hands her a book in the anime
>>157180529
He should be at least a decent fighter with a mindblowing hatsu
>>157196827
>he bought a hobo a fucking suit
madman
>>157159773
NEN
>>157196325
Most nen users don't have Gon's potential.
>>157197814
It doesn't matter, if they use a 15min max power then death restriction, i bet they'd give even the best hunters a run for their money.
>>157197912
You probably need to be in some sort of unique state of mind before you can place restrictions on yourself like that and not all nen users have the willpower and strength to make such heavy gambles.
But yeah, I see where you're coming from. I'm not too fond of this sort of thing either.
>>157198305
Its a well thought-out system, its just everyone makes it seem like it doesn't have any loopholes
How strong is this nigga?
>>157198593
Probably a regular human, if he's even real/still alive.
>>157199003
He's a chimera ant.
>>157195173
Maybe for the idiots that treat it more than it actually was
>>157194237
That's assuming the Heavens Arenas officials even took his body in the first place. If they did, why would Machi and Shalnark have it and not the paramedics? I highly doubt they'd sift through hundreds of blown up bodies to ID Hisoka's body, it's almost impossible. It was a fair assumption they made that he did die in that explosion. Machi and Shalnark are fast enough to obtain the body without any body seeing anything.
And I can surmise the timeframe because during the match, Hisoka said the paramedics were coming in 10 minutes, this was at least a few minutes before the explosion. And the next chapter you see ambulances all throughout the streets with the news caster saying the explosion happened moments ago, then the next page you see Hisoka's corpse with the Spiders.
>>157196827
After knocking Neon out, he placed her hand on the book.
>>157200285
Wasn't shown in the manga
>>157196184
>tfw we'll never see long haired Pitou
so do we actually think he's coming back or are we in denial
>>157196827
The paper was to fulfill the first condition.
>kuroro had to cheat to stand the slightest chance against based hisoka
>hisoka still took no real damage and won the fight easily
>kurorofags still salty after all this time
>>157202304
bland fanfic
>>157202304
>>hisoka still took no real damage and won the fight easily
How does this series manage to generate so much autism?