PV when? Also HF thread, what are /a/ expectations for this?
>>157123114
>expectations
4/10 at best
>>157123114
Which studio? If ufotable then it will be a shit.
>>157123183
ufotable. But why would it be shit?
>>157123114
>expectations
No matter what it's gonna be too short and zip past most of the character & atmosphere.
>>157123532
Ufotable is a garbage if it comes to visuals.
>>157123114
I'm expecting lots of worms.
>>157123662
I think this is the real problem of this adaptation, it is way too short. It could be good if it was a normal anime show.
The good things are they have movie budget and can show violence and sex.
>>157123114
>Those noses
why
>>157124407
? They are a huge improvement since the UBW anime.
>>157124407
They have way better design than source material.
>>157124771
The designs are exactly the same as in the VN.
>>157124898
No they're not
>>157124898
Nope.
Not enough lancer. Need more lancer.
>>157124975
Do you know what design means?
>>157125057
Only Shinji's clothes are different design wise.
>>157125064
Not enough Cu, not enough Kojiro, not enough Zouken, not enough Kirei. In the entire VN.
>>157125118
>Do you know what design means?
Yes, but considering the post he was replying to I assumed he was talking about the artstyle
I have low expectations for this adaptation because the UBW adaptation was less than perfect.
Lots of mistakeposting about Sakura.
>>157125265
DELETE THIS
>>157125215
The art is obviously different. It looks like a combination of Takeushi, Koyama, and Ufo.
>>157125265
>they cut some shit to add in the flashback of Shinji and Shirou's meeting from HA
Would you be mad?
>>157123114
It'll be the best Fate adaptation ufotable does, at least
>>157125667
I love Shinji, I won't be mad.
>>157123114
Christ, did Sakura always have such wide hips?
>>157125667
What do you think they cut?
>>157125667
This means HA anime never.
>>157123114
It's made by ufotable so little hope
>>157123114
This is going to be good.
>>157123183
>>157123778
>>157126110
Why do you hate ufotable? I find it good looking.
>>157123114
>what are /a/ expectations for this?
What's the point of expecting anything?
F/GO killed Fate
>>157126262
Modern ufotable can't into scheduling. Also, they're bound to ruin something about HF like Zero and UBW.
>>157123114
Well I'm looking forward to True Assassins beatdown of Lancer since that'll be the only relevant fight they'll do for the first movie if it's going to a trilogy. The sad thing with Fate adaptions is that they can't adapt bad endings like Sparks Liner High or Mind of Steel.
>>157126340
But this is not GO! Ufotable can save fate franchise, give it a chance.
>>157126412
This is the main reason why source material > adaptation.
>>157123114
HF is the only route that mattered. First route was worthless and the only people who liked it were boring saberfags. Second route was just as worthless and the only people who liked it where battle shounen faggots.
>>157126506
doesn't HF have a bunch of fights as well
>>157126397
Movie budget. KnK was gorgeous. zero and UBW have anime budget.
>>157126438
I see no point in saving things that already dead.
>>157126506
But HF have far less impact without fate and UBW.
>>157126506
HF has the most Battles in all the routes.
What the fuck are you smoking?
>>157126588
le budget meme ecks-dee
Shinji actually looks pretty good now what the fuck.
>>157126736
Something true isn't a meme, anon. HF have way more budget.
So if Emiya can beat Gilg does that mean Archer can too?
>>157126867
More like you're an idiot who doesn't know how anime productions work
>>157126984
Teach me senpai.
>>157126984
Not that guy, but Movies almost always look better than TV anime. What are you on?
>>157125667
Why would I be? HF has quite a bit of useless fluff at the very beginning so I would not mind it being cut for more Shirou and Shinji backstory.
>>157126487
Remember how much tension Ilya created during the first route? Those bad endings really made her come off as this demonic little girl, especially with Berserker in the back of your mind while being in the Einzbern mansion. Same goes for Caster who decapitates you and puts your head in a testtube or making Issei a sleeper agent who cuts your stomache open when you ask about Caster. Fate without bad endings just seems off. There's zero tension because it's basically a playthrough while looking at the cheat sheet.Also no Tiger Dojo
>>157123114
only the first movie
assassin, caster, lancer and maybe berserker and saber gonna die
kek
>>157127092
Not because of money. Production schedules for movies tend to leave more time for people to work on them than TV shows.
>>157123114
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtmdnB95Uxc
>>157126964
No because Shirou only "won" because the Grail and Archer came out of nowhere when Gil was about to deal the killing blow.
Plus, Archer is a Servant so Gil would automatically deem him more of a threat than a magus.
where did you think the first movie gonna end?
I think it will here
>>157127531
>Production schedules for movies tend to leave more time for people to work on them than TV shows.
durrrr
How do you think those people spend more time on the movie? Because they can pay them more per run time of the movie.
>>157127358
>That Issei bad ending
Holy shit that was creepy
>>157127627
So then how did Saber beat him?
>>157125667
Unless they cut something really important that would honestly be a plus.
>>157126340
F/GO saved Fate, breathing new life into a moribund corpse.
>>157127696
Either that, or if they want to be asses when the Shadow chomps on Saber,
>>157127819
Hax.
>Shirou dreaming about his final moments with his parents
>They show their faces
>>157127819
She conveniently had a super rare artifact that Gil wasn't aware of that was a perfect counter to Ea.
>>157127819
The Sheath lets her tank just enough of Gate of Babylon to leave an opening and hit him with Excalibur.
Is Sakura the best girl?
>>157127993
No.
>>157127993
She isn't Caren so no,Hollow Atraxia anime really never
>>157127993
no, her servant is
>>157128122
SOON
>>157128622
>The literal Whore of Fuyuki
>Anything close to best girl
>>157123114
more boring then the fate router, poorly done,and rushed HF
>>157127780
Animators are paid by cuts. Also, if you have to hire more animators because you can't finish things on time, that's where costs start ballooning. Having less people on board is for the better.
>>157127696
It must be saber getting done then rider saving shirou
>>157127993
sakura is the best girl to fuck
>>157123114
WHY IS SAKURA TOUCHING HER VAGINA !!!???
I was wishing this was a full show instead of three movies. It's probably the darkest arc of the game though, so I can understand why they may want to go a route that allows them more creative freedom.
>>157126506
HF is the definitive route and Sakura the canon wife.
>>157130240
I wan't to touch her vagina with my dick
>>157127993
YES
>>157130240
She's trying to keep from pissing herself.
>>157128657
Soon?
>>157130240
Holding worms.
>>157127993
I'd rather her sister. And then invite Saber and/or Rider in for a threeway.
I wonder, would it be a valid tactic in the War to summon a servant as early as possible to give a middle finger to those who wanted to summon a Servant that can only be summoned as a specific class? Or nulling their catalyst to force their Servant to become a Class that they aren't suited for. On top of that you get extra bonding time to make sure you don't stab each other in the back.
>>157123114
>top panel
Double blowjob ?
>>157130391
For that to work you need exact info about the other masters and what servants they want to summon in what class.
Extra time with your servant also isn't always a good thing. I imagine having a berserker would fuck up anyone without lol-tier magic circuits like illya over time and if you simply don't get along there will be a longer time for grievances to occur and fester
>>157130240
Because they don;t need to censor anything this time.
>>157123114
Hype as fuck we're getting something to discuss besides shitflinging about GO trash, I'll tell you what.
We'll still get Apocrypha and Extra before the HF BDs, but the former sucks and the latter is a ways off.
Love that visual, they've only been getting better since F/Z and UBW S1's boring and plain ones. Lots of potential for this to be a really wholesome adaptation, and all 3 movies deserve 2+ hours of runtime, just hope they do it justice.
And please PV fucking soon.
>>157124120
You're dumb, well directed movies require a lot less screentime to convey info effectively than a long, stretched out TV show. UBW's pacing was godawful sometimes, particularly eps 22 and 23.
A trilogy could be the perfect, as long as they make each one fairly long.
>>157128122
Living proof that Kirei is best boy and everything he produces is also best.
>>157125667
No, but I think Rider needs more HA caratherization than people need to sympathize with Shinji for this.
Wouldn't be mad because wakame tho.
Shinji...I don't get why he gets all the hate on /a/. FSN is just written to make him out as the bad guy, when really he's no worse than any of the 'protagonists' and a better person than most of them.
What are the main complaints? He raped Sakura and stole Rider to use in the war?
Okay, let's get this straight. He never fucking raped Sakura. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He fucked Sakura.
Let me ask you this. WHO IN THE GAME DIDN'T FUCK SAKURA? You can't even name one fucking character who hasn't plugged her loose cunt! She is the kind of bitch who will act like she doesn't want it when she really does. She'll say No! while having multiple orgasms. Shinji knew this, he's a fucking ladies man. He knows what filthy whores like Sakura want.
And there's this other big bitch you guys have with him. He supposedly stole Rider and used her in the war for his own greed.
Objection! He was worried about his one and only precious sister. Is keeping your loved ones from a brutal war so wrong? When Shirou does the same thing to Saber it's like 'oh he's so manly', but when Shinji does it it's wrong? He just wanted to protect Sakura. He probably was going to use his Holy Grail wish to tighten her cunt back up or cure her syphilis or something.
The story was written to make that faggot Shirou look good. Objectively, Shinji is a far better character than Shirou. At least he has the balls to take action decisively instead of dicking around like Shirou, and if he weren't stuck with the weak ass servant Rider and no plothax he probably would have won the war.
I'm pretty curious about a few things.
Will the Shirou hatebase have a better or worse opinion of HF Shirou who discards his ideal for his waifu?
Will the masses like Sakura and her perfect japanese submissive waifu with sad backstory or will they be repelled at the sight of the wormslut?Will the masses finally see that Kotomine did nothing wrong?
>>157133438
>What if, for the fan-disc, we re-made Kirei, but as a girl so guys wouldn't have to question their sexuality too hard this time?
>Nasu, you're a fucking genius
>>157128122
She'll get a cameo in HF 3. At the very least, in loli form during Kirei's flashback. Hopefully she attends his funeral or something too.
>>157123114
>Spoiling True Assassin
>Kojirou getting shafted once again
True suffering.
>>157127923
That's really dumb anon, totally goes against the "rebirth" thing.
He literally had no life before the fire.
Well, he does have a weird flashback one time about his mom saving him? But that's it.
>>157133660
That's what he gets for being fictional
Oh shit guys. that fucking PV finally got released.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_nP8cGlhY
>>157133582
Some will find him much better, others much worse. Mixed bag there.
Depends on how they show Sakura's character. If it's exactly like the VN, probably mostly hate, with some sympathizers.
Yes, I expect a huge boost in Kirei popularity. In Zero he's just really fucked up, it's HF that gives him the extremely endearing side.
Really can't wait for the Shirou/Kirei bro team-up.
>>157133785
I can't even be mad.
Watching this now, the dub makes it pretty funny. Thanks anon.
>>157128122
>Stay Night and Zero mention Kotomine was married
>Hollow Ataraxia has Caren explaining that her mom was scorned for fucking some random guy
???
>>157133475
Essentially, this. Giving Rider an actual character (and rewriting that abrupt as fuck epilogue) is a higher priority.
Shinji is in 3rd place.
>>157133983
B-but anon, my tragic heroine!
It's stupid because the backstory would've still worked with Kirei abandoning her after mom dies. Maybe they'll retcon it in the movie.
What's Sakura's character archetype called? The girl who had sex countless times but is still pure inside.
>>157130693
The point of Berserker was to strengthen a weaker Heroic Spirit so that a weaker magus incapable of summoning a more powerful hero would be at a slightly more level playing field.
>>157133515
He got Gil and he still lost.
>>157134300
I believe he just left the kid in the care of the mother's family because he had his heretic hunting job going, no? I mean, Kirei was always Kirei, but back then he was still in denial about his asshole nature.
Nasu just put that shit in HA as to not have Caren knowin her father's name and tell the player outright.
>>157134363
>still pure inside
There isn't a name because it's never been done, anon.
>>157133582
Probably better. Lots of Shirou haters don't like him simply because his ideal is dumb and he acts based on it, like that's news to anyone. It's not even news to Shirou.
I want to say that if the director Sudou really is as big a Sakurafag they say he is, he'll understand what makes her great and probably do a better job and portraying it than Nasu did in stay night.
Of course.
>>157134428
He left for the 4th War literally 1 week after his wife died, anon. That's said at the start of Fate/Zero. So, Caren's probably been under the Church since then.
After that he embraced his nature, and although he did church jobs, I doubt he went back to his daughter.
>>157123114
Seeing that this is part 1 of a trilogy, where would be a good point to end the movie on? Rider getting BTFO by Saber? Aniplex seems to be going for a release like Kizumonogatari so maybe 1 hour could be the average run time for the movies.
>>157134557
>1 hour could be the average run time for the movies.
Don't even joke about this.
>>157134557
Jesus Christ no, that's literally the start of the route, pretty sure the poster is just a fake-out to make Assassin and Zouken's competence more shocking. There's no way they'd cover the rest after that in 2 hours.
Kizu is an exception of maximum jewing, since it's a story that could've been told in 1 movie. HF's will almost definitely be longer, 1st should end when Rider comes back and BTFOs Hassan.
>>157126397
You sound like that one autist from MAL who had a meltdown during UBW.
Ufotable is great when it comes to movies.
>>157126506
HF is the best route because it's the only one were Riderdoesn't die.
>>157134784
thats hot
>>157123532
Makes it makes pointless changes to the story for no fucking reason.
Though they have no effect on the larger plot they will make any fan of the VN cringe.
>>157136300
YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND BABY RIGHT ROUND LIKE A RECORD BABY RIGHT ROUND ROUND ROUND
>>157134402
No matter who gets Gil they will still lose because Gil a shit and the biggest jobber in the Nasuverse.
>>157136369
>my autism triggers from the slightest changes because I can't see adaptations and the source as different in my head
>this somehow means one is lower quality
You are literally the worst. Character changing or important events turning out different are understandable, but there's always some creative freedom when adapting. This is actually refreshing for most people, because it's a slightly different flavor of the same thing they came to see.
>>157133582
>Will the masses like Sakura and her perfect japanese submissive waifu
She wasn't even that submissive, she even gave Shirou some nice ice burns in a cute way in the route.
Her personality is neither totally submissive or huge bitch, so people tens to exaggerate it because it's not tropified enough.
>>157136477
im still mad about this death in HF
PV out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmmV5Dc_Vbk
>>157136542
Where's the fucking crater webm already?
Someone HAS to have made it.
I want a "look at this DOOD" roast audio track over it.
>>157134553
He didn't, she was raised by a nun in an Italian monastery iirc.
The priest found out about her inheriting her mother's spiritual illness type abilities and she was treated like a freak. I think they didn't even want to show her how to read.
And you know the rest, now she is used as a dragon radar for malevolent entities due to that spiritual illness and develops her twisted personality from being raised like that.
She is 14 iirc, younger than Sakura by a year if you can believe it.
>>157136542
>>157133785
>>157123114
Honestly, though. What the fuck, ufotable? Where is the goddamn PV?
>>157125891
Hip measurement is 87 cm, I think way back when, only Ciel's was larger at 89 cm.
She has the junk in the trunk, she just never flaunts it, and Takeuchi was pretty bad at drawing a good ass.
>>157136865
Shouldn't have missed machi asobi :^)
Seriously though, they're still Japan-centric as fuck, us gaijins just get the bread crumbs. Even if you've been a TM fan for 10 years, some Jap fuck who started playing Grand Order on his phone last month will still get to see all upcoming Fate content long before you...
>>157134784
UBW is the only route where they don't figure out Rider is Medusa, right?
Posting storyboards cuz why not
>>157137108
No, they don't in Fate either, she just uses Bellerephon (which is not really identifying, especially if you don't know Medusa's myth that well) and dies.
>>157137117
>>157137117
Holy shit, didn't see this before.
From the trailer, I'm guessing?
>>157137148
>>157137189
Last one (couldn't find a good pic online of this)
All have been Sudou's storyboard so I guess the rumour that Miura will handle action SB is true
>>157133983
>Hollow Ataraxia has Caren explaining that her mom was scorned for fucking some random guy
I don't remember that.
>>157137117
>>157137148
>>157137189
>>157137217
looks great
>>157137136
Really? I'd figure the Pegasus is what gives it away, not Bellerophon, considering its birth is the biggest thing to come from her death in the myth
>>157133847
>Depends on how they show Sakura's character. If it's exactly like the VN, probably mostly hate, with some sympathizers.
That didn't even happen with the original game.
Here was the deal, her character was shocking in the face of the other idealized heroines, so she gained controversy, Nasu freaked out about a heroine being so divided amongst a fanbase so he meme'd it up for a few years. Kinda like what he does with Ciel, and Kohaku is literally nothing but memes now. Maybe that was why Tamamo went that route.
Anyway, Sakura ended up having steady fans by Hollow, and by 2007 or so, was pretty loved, so he only lightly jokes about her being "unpopular".
By 2008 she had gotten top ten in the All TM Character Popularity Poll, and then, by the most recent All TM character poll during Zero airing, she was number 8. That was when he really decided to stop meme'ing so hard about her being unpopular, even when she was pretty damn popular for years, both in the company and in the fandom. I guess even there, it's hard to shake memes.
Nip Sakura fans are actually pretty loyal but chill dudes. Might surprise some Western fans to hear that of course.
>>157133582
>Will the masses like Sakura and her perfect japanese submissive waifu with sad backstory or will they be repelled at the sight of the wormslut?
Depends really hard on the direction. If it had been Deen or the F/Z director doing it, she would be fucked, because they'd play up her yandere side like crazy (and probably even try to imply she's the one behind the shadow murders) while disregarding the rest of her personality and the reasons she's going crazy. Sudou should hopefully be able to understand that the "ooo so spooky crazy Sakura" interludes did more harm than good and cut them, though. Following Realta Nua would be a good way to shut up the victim-blaming misogynists too.
>>157137255
It was either the second or first time you hung out with her in the Church IIRC.
>>157137704
Now one of said fans is directing HF itself
>>157137886
Ei Aoki (FZ director) can play things on the more subtle side, see KnK 1 or Hourou Musuko
Hoping for good Rider merch
>>157136877
Both official and fan artwork always focus her on banging tits, which is understandable, but I've always thought Sakura's bestasset was her wide hips and fat booty.
Nasu once said that Rin is the heroine of the ass and not the chest, implying that's what Sakura would be, but I think that's wrong. The sisters represent two different ideals of ass. Rin is the smaller, tighter but certainly wonderfully shaped ass that fits with more her toned body. Sakura is the bigger, wider and plump looking ass that fits with her softer body yet doesn't go overboard.
Both are correct, and both deserve appreciation that I can only hope we'll see on the silver screen in the coming future.
I only have one expectation for Heaven's Feel and it's the same as everyone that has ever liked Fate/ or Type-Moon stuff, and you agree with me:
>Ending of HF, everything is daijobu, we get to the credits, they are almost over, then, the screen goes pitch black.
>"So, we finished the three routes, great job mina!"
>It really took his toll don't you think? So now, it's time to have acelebration
>CARNIVAL PHANTASM SEASON 4
True assassin is so much worse than fake assassin
>>157137953
He fucked up the final moments of Kariya really hard, though, making secondaries think Sakura was mocking him for his efforts, with some even thinking that she was the one who killed him. You definitely don't want that kind of directing in HF which was controversial enough to begin with.
>>157138343
Wrong, he's actually approriate for the class and BTFOs much stronger Servants with trickery and using his home ground effectively.
Also loyal as fuck, while Kojiro wouldn't even tie the vixen witch's shoes if she asked.
>>157138619
He's decent against stupid, proud strong people like Saber and Lancer (though her Instinct hax let her get the final blow), but he needed the Shadow to help him.
Smart, sneaky servants like Rider or Archer BTFO him.
>>157138472
Three episode directors in there but yeah Aoki was the only storyboarder
We (or at least I) don't know who has more control here. It can be like Trigger where creativity is from storyboarders and episode directors are just a pragmatic role or Toei where episode directors are the storyboarders, no idea
>>157138806
>Lancer
>proud and stupid
Neither, he's quite sly and only proud of well deserved achievements. He was pretty much max careful against Hassan, and specifically on recon. The Shadow helping Hassan isn't a matter of "luck", it's his own strategy to lure targets to the Temple where he knows he has an advantage.
Rider only got him because of how unexpected it was, already after a fight with Saber, AND it was a betrayal, since she's supposed to serve Zouken's grandkids.
>>157138212
Damn, I feel inspired.
Well said anon.
Hoping for some Sakura rear in HF now.
Since we're speaking of Assassin, can I get some clarification on Zero's assassins?
At first I thought that it was Kirei summoning all the Hassans for whatever fucking reason, but it never really sat well with me. So today I just felt like rewatching some of it and it mentions that Assassin had multiple personalities. I take it then that this is technically only one Hassan whose noble phantasm is having all his/her personalities live in separate bodies as different individuals?
>>157139348
Yep, he's one of the 19 who disguised as many
of his different personalities, and can manifest like 100 at once. Could be prettty powerful, shame he was so wasted.
>>157139348
That is correct. One hundred bodies, one for each of his separate personalities.
Also, keep in mind that Zero and HF Hassans are not the same person. There have been nineteen different people throughout history who have had that name.
>>157138472
The drama CD handled the scene better, luckily.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUd9k60lNx8
>>157139485
And what about Hassan in GO?
>>157139528
There are at least 4.
>>157139528
Which one?
>>157139674
Those aren't the GO Hassans, that's back when TM April Fool's was cool.
>>157139609
>>157139674
I don't recognize the pale-skinned one.
>>157139528
>>157139609
There's also the unnamed/nameless Hassans (Fake and True Assassin) in Strange Fake.
King Hassan best Hassan
>Is the Grand Assassin
>Doesn't give a shit and discards the title just to give something without the concept of death a concept of death just so he can kill it alongside (you)
Why is he so based?
>>157139711
That's the one from Strange Fake. Zealot-chan who has all the 19's NPs.
>>157139674
What is Rider doing?
Reminder that Sakura is LITERALLY evil and perfectly knew all she was doing and was also doing it joyfully and with glee
>>157139800
We know
>>157139800
>480x360
Every time.
>>157139774
>>157139714
>Hassan of Jobbing got picked over Zealot-chan
No wonder the organization went to shit afterwards.
>>157139800
>implying you wouldn't abuse your new godly powers that even give you an evil look, especially after 10 years of torture and 2 shitty families
I think Sakura did it all, and I don't think she deserves to be punished for it.
>>157139780
Trying to fit in.
>>157139891
>and I don't think she deserves to be punished for it.
Criminals deserve punishment for their crimes.
>>157139851
Zealot's not a real HS. Or even a Servant, really. Even Pale Rider works better as a Servant than she does.
>>157123114
Reminder that Shinji is the best boy and did nothing wrong.
>>157139923
Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right.
>>157139946
t. Hundred-Faced Hassan
Go back to getting killed by Iskandar
Will Apocrypha threads be this fun? Or will they be nothing but DRAGON DICK and Astolfo trap shitposting?
This is the only image of SF True Assassin around, I think. And there's not even a picture of him.
>>157123114
Why does Shinji look so good here?
>>157140025
Is Apocrypha worth reading? I only read the early chapters back when translations efforts were just starting out, it was nothing special as far as I can remember.
>>157140027
>Presence Concealment so strong he becomes one with the World
Can you Assassin harder than this? Because goddamn son.
>>157140025
There's already way too many pre-made memes and GOfags will come shitposting. Not nearly as much potential as F/Z anime ride.
>>157140087
>Is Apocrypha worth reading?
No.
I'm gonna watch the anime exclusively to shitpost because that's all Apocrypha deserves.
>>157140025
To this day I still don't understand why Archibald's face is so hilarious to me.
>>157140025
Gordes will be the new Fastwheels
>>157140097
True. Things like FZ come only once in a lifetime. I'm glad I was able to spend it with /a/
>>157140092
He could be attacking you in your face, and still has A+ concealement. OP as all fuck.
Though I still wish True Servants weren't added, the original Fake cast was OP and plentiful enough.
I really like the Prelati Servant+Master concept though.
>>157140125
>>157140125
Because you are reminded of all Kayneth memes whenever you see it. It's the concentration of hundreds and thousands shitposts.
>>157140025
Man, I wish I had been there to see the reception to Saber getting BTFO by Rider.
How was it, those of you who were in the livewatch thread?
>>157140125
He's perfect in every way. Just embrace it, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csBZLd66Bow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSvOmu_ezbo
BAKA! BAKA!
Baka! Baka!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSvOmu_ezbo
>>157140232
A whole week of SABER BTFO HOW CAN SHE EVER RECOVER
Though I think BTFO didn't exist back then. Fuck, where does time go?
>>157140232
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHorpDzp_Tw
>>157123114
Most of them(in the poster) will dies in this movie right?
Played it 10 years ago and kinda forgotten the time line.
Will any Type-Moon scene ever surpass Illya's walnut game in sheer cuteness?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpN2ntbL95M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zqBMVn0hoQ
>>157140363
In this part 1, from the poster only Lancer, Caster, and Saber (her normal self, at least).
I am GAR for Shirou.
>>157140388
What was Aoki thinking when the storyboarded this scene?
>>157140363
Lancer, Caster and Saber will. Berserker and Archer won't die until the second movie, and Shinji's death should either be at the very end of the second movie or during the third.
>>157138212
So Saber is the heroine of the...?
Diarmuidposting was fun too
Seriously, Team Lancer was just a goldmine. I don't think there will ever be another Servant-Master combination with so much potential for mockery ever again.
>>157140504
BIG
shes going to get an anime right?
BLACK
>>157140554
I'd say it's very likely if Nasu manages to release the remake.
>>157140554
Wait, did you miss the one back in 2003, anon?
>>157126397
You sound like a nitpicker. Ufotable has great graphics in today's standards. What I would consider trash garbage would be DEEN or JcStaff.
>>157140521
Why didn't he just cover the fucking mole?
>>157137136
I thought in Fate she used Gorgon's Eye multiple times. Each time she used Bellerephon it was accompanied with Gorgon's Eye.
>>157140599
That's pretty okay for a fanmade anime.
>>157140661
With a smiley sticker!
>>157140724
It would unironically make me take team Kayneth more seriously.
>>157140689
N-no? She stabs her neck, does the magic circle thing, and flies around both times. No taking off the blindfold until the school in HF.
>>157140703
The OP is unironically pretty fucking cool too. For a fan project. You can tell it had a reaaally dedicated fanbase!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3p8nxO_XiE
>>157140744
My sides.
>>157140437
You are now listening to it manually.
The movies are going for the Realta Nua version of mana replenishment, right?
>>157140851
2 days until the 10 year anniversary.
Please support the original artist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoW0bmsSOmo
>>157140874
I hope they will go for the H scene instead to satisfy my dick
>>157140874
I just want to see Shinji rape Sakura. I hate Sakura but I wouldn't miss the chance to fuck her.
>>157123114
>>157124407
Saber looks derp as fuck
>>157140194
Well, the idea behind Strange Fake seems to be that "everything will go wrong, whether it can or can't happen". The most mundane, standard summoning (Edison) ends up blowing up in everybody's faces. Faldeus gave True Assassin literally one job, and he's managing to fuck it up. Saint Germain drives a Delorean through early-Medieval England. Richard the Lionheart is playing an electric guitar with a bunch of punk-rockers. The more, the merrier.
>>157140874
I hope not but considering Nasu is now a moralfag who hates lewds one never knows.
But hey, at least Sakura keeps getting literally and figuratively fucked by EXXXXXXTREME worms instead of just penis worms so it's awright to show now.
where theheckdo I find the fate zero VN
F/HA was easy because of its unique name GL googling this shit without finding 1 million entries on the anime
>>157130693
Berserker is just a class. Heracles and Lancelot both have ridiculously high maintenance cost, and being mindless Berserkers, they can't consciously lower their mana usage to help their masters
>>157141068
Is this bait?
>>157133785
>came here to talk about HF
>end up watching iron chef instead
great result
>>157141037
Pretty sure I played Realta Nua but it still showed dickworms for me.
>>157139348
That generation of Hassan has a genius who mastered the ultimate technique of all the Hassans before her. But they're scared of her so they picked a random guy with MPD over her, because she has no original techniques, while he has the technique of "each personality is a different person with different skill". So as a Heroic Spirit, each personality manifests as a different body
>>157140874
I think they will but then still have sex anyway.
>They will never be together
>They will never be happy
>>157141309
Didn't the F/Z anime show the original worm design instead?
>>157141284
I don't think I actually got the fact that the person who took her place was Hundred-Face. Where is that said/written?
>>157123114
UBW by them was trash, so I don't expect this to be any good, given HF can be pretty garbo to begin with.
>>157141355
Not him but I pretty distinctly remember that from the original SF novel (should be in the new version too).
>>157141355
Somewhere in Strange Fake. She can replicate the 18 previous Zabaniya (according to her Servant profile in SF volume 2), and Hundred Face is the 19th successor, so its kind of obvious that Hundred Face took her spot
Anyone has that picture of the Sakura HF poster in where someone was playing Pokemon GO and they found a Caterpie in front of the poster?
>>157141341
Iri wouldn't be so happily cucked if she wasn't gonna die.
Besides, Maiya has a son to raise and take care of, she doesn't get to be there!
Holy shit guys, they just released the pv:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MmYx1ayYTM
>>157141407
>>157141418
It is actually written explicitly in both; looks like I simply forgot.
>>157130240
She's in the presence of her husband
>>157141658
I still half cringe, half find this cool. It's obvious he's aware of how fucking stupid it sounds, but goes through with it anyway.
>>157137704
Sakura is ALWAYS love
Who was more pathetic, Kayneth the cuck, Diarmuid the moralfag or Sola-Ui the skank?
>>157126340
You're retarded.
>>157141920
Kayneth easily.
And Sola was the least, because fucking women coming out on top.
>>157142024
He's retarded to be jaded about having fun with adaptations, but right about GO killing the future creative value of the franchise for good. No new enjoyable content (by Nasu, at least) will be coming from it.
>>157140194
>He could be attacking you in your face, and still has A+ concealement. OP as all fuck.
Dragonborn?
>>157140744
>Rin NTRs Sakura in every single route
>>157142163
I was gonna say he didn't rely on archer faggotry, but then I remembered the daggers in Skyrim... Yeah, pretty much.
How much cooking will there be in HF anime?
>>157142212
>Sakura NTRs Rin in the doujins that don't involve old men
>>157142110
>>157141398
How was it trash?
>>157142212
this is why lin is undeniably best girl
>>157142334
Assuming you were talking to the 2nd post, stop anon. Don't invite MAL fags to arguments about TM anime.
>>157141068
sigh, Fate/Zero is NOT a VN. It is a LN written by Gen Urobuchi and supervised by Nasu.
Why the fuck do people keep thinking F/Z is a VN??? Makes no fucking sense
>>157142310
I hate sakura but god this doujin is hot
>>157142431
I still remember the wait for proper scans of the sequel.
Also I love Sakurabut not as much as Rin. Both are superior to Saber and great sisters.
>>157142508
WORMS
>>157142508
Yeah this one anon spaming was anoying but well I was waiting for it too.
Do the artist is working on another sakura doujin or ?
I prefer Rin too but I love this doujin... Am I cucking Rin baka ?
>>157142608
Yes, yes you are anon.
Forget about her and embrace your Sakura lust.
>>157138271
Only if it's the Grand Order edition.
>>157142310
Sakura >> Rin, always
>>157142687
PERFECTION
>>157142687
>>157142728
She's got nothing on Ishtar/Rin though.
>>157142727
Puke.
>>157142775
Lazy design re-use for a different character. Fuck off
>>157142775
Rhino is just whore in any universe
>>157136369
>fan of the VN
Who gives a fuck about those autists? If they want shitty retarded writing then they can go read the manchild VN garbage.
>>157140894
>that pic
Fem Shirou is just Gudako.
>>157142687
Alright.. Can't do anything about it my dick choose..
>>157124407
Because they literally don't know how to draw, it's fucking pathetic.
>>157140534
BLACK
>>157143204
CLAWS
>>157143018
Gudako is nothing like Shirou. Beyond the fact that they're both protagonists, and both part of "the good guys".
>>157128122
>>157128657
>>157133438
>>157133625
Caren bros where we at?
>>157141037
>Nasu is now a moralfag who hates lewds
Quite the opposite, we got the lewdest character he has ever written added to GO recently with a event focused on her.
They also said years ago when the anime was announced that they wanted to make movies out of HF so that they wouldn't have to censor anything. There is still hope for the original version of HF to be adapted.
Dick worms are stupid and only prove that the VN is nothing more than eroge trash for manchildren
>>157143268
Design wise, Gudako is basically female Shirou.
Everything else, nah.
>>157127819
She's King Arthur, instead of a dumb teenager.
>>157145999
mhm
>>157143018
Other than the fact that that art is pre-GOshit, no she isn't.
>>157143018
>>157147431
But Assassin Kiritsugu never [could have] met Shirou. Did he?
>>157147431
Am I a hero yet?
>>157148145
>>157147431
Woah... so this is the power... of FGO emotional fan comics...
>>157123183
>a shit
nice meme you must be an oldfag
>>157148200
>>157148351
Who is that blonde fukboi? He's a type-moon character? Never seen him.
>>157148269
>>157148351
剣を捨て。我が妻となれ!
>>157148398
>>157148468
it's funny because it doesn't happen
>>157148411
>>157123114
i don't know i watch fate for the girls and the doujins
Is this the Gil NTR thread?
I like it.
>>157148574
嬉しいな
嬉しいな
はじめまして
恋心
>>157148620
>>157148825
What is wrong with her face???
>>157148825
Please never post pictures of my husband with that ugly Brit
>>157149226
>>157148468
>>157149226
It's ok. Let the man have his wet wet dreams.
>>157149246
>>157149342
>>157149483
how about that not-translated Strange Fake volume huh?
how uh
how do you think we can get that resolved?
>>157149646
There is a dedicated translator for the LNs, I'm not sure if he has started working on it yet but when he does it shouldn't take more than two or three months for it to be fully translated.
Does Prelati fuck himself? I need to know
>>157149562
>>157149714
I know that there's *supposed* to be a dedicated translator, but I also know that he hasn't given a schedule (as was customary before), and hasn't said a word about it in around a month. Nobody seems to even react to it on BL. There is also other real translators actively posting in the SF thread, but not translating any of the material - even the stuff they post *in the thread*. These things, combined, sincerely concern me.
Additionally: it took ~8 months for the previous volume to be fully-translated, not "two or three". It was released in early May 2016, and the last translations came out in late December. This is another concern.
>>157139772
He was worth the 300 bucks i spend on him
>>157149755
Solely because you wrote that, I pictured the guy Prelati fucking the zipper-stomach-hole of the other one. Thanks a lot for that image.
>>157149815
>>157149915
>>157149977
>>157142212
Sakura pretty much said, "fuck you, I do what I want" after Rin acted like that.
It's a good counterpoint for people thinking she was just the mousy kouhai.
Shirou didn't even notice how strange it was for them to make up so quickly literally 3 minutes after that fallout too.
>>157149998
>>157150193
>>157150220
>>157149859
Checking his latest post I noticed two things. He should have gotten the book almost a months ago and just before he stopped posting was when he noticed his Personal Message box in his account.
Knowing BL's reputation they may have been sending him death threats to make him stop translating entirely but he just noticed it so that's why he didn't stop sooner.
>>157140025
You would need an original anime for that, everyone knows the stories being adapted right now.
>>157143268
She is female Shirou as in Takeuchi based GO master designs on Shirou and Rin.
>>157123114
Viva la France!
>>157140087
It has a pretty strong first half and then it goes to shit.
>>157150538
Vive* Anon-kun.
>>157150419
>Knowing BL's reputation they may have been sending him death threats to make him stop translating
What? Why? I'm not familiar with the community; I simply read things that I need to read on the site.
Now I feel scared, too, though: I sent him a PM which gave some constructive criticism on his translations. What if I'm partially responsible for him stopping? What's the rule on that - do I have to kill myself, or take his place as translator, or make an offering?
ah man, I wish they would made Tsukihime anime...
>>157141173
Did you play the Mirror Moon translation? They have it modded so you get the good bits of Realta Nua but without the censors,
>>157150265
Gil as meant for one women and one women alone.
>>157123114
My wife is there.
>>157141658
cringe
>>157150438
FZ was not an original story, dummy.
I do want a Waver/Rin/Shirou original anime with the 10 years post UBW Grail War, but good luck gettin Nasu out of GOshit.
>>157151122
Ishtar
>>157150929
>>157151122
indeed.
>>157150912
Oh, so that's what it was. I was always confused when people said Realta Nua was censored when it wasn't for me.
>>157123114
PV never.
>literally Sunday in Japan
>still no PV
Not Sunday yet in Japan.
>>157153663
>>157153519
Sunday is in 10 minutes
>>157123114
Anyone looking Forward to Hassan?
>>157139609
Hassans are best.
>>157154432
Me, such a based nigga
>pops off and ends 4 servants in 3 days
>ambushes shirou in one bad end and is just like "sorry brah tough luck ill kill you quickly so the shadow doesnt"
He deserved a better ending honestly. Shame.
>>157139979
Any servant can job if their master orders them to run head first into 3 other servants.
>>157154576
He got some love inFGOat least
Would Serenity's poison end up killing sperm that somehow gets inside her?
>>157153974
>>157153519
Are we supposed to see it today?
Shinji had a hard life.
>>157154844
Maybe
>>157154947
Why maybe? They didn't announced it or something?
>>157154903
>Shinji had a hard dick
FTFY
>>157155015
They showed the trailer in Machi Asobi but nothing else.
>>157153519
I don't think they will post it at night though.
>>157154903
>born normal
>"why was I cursed to always be normal", except isn't
>take out the frustration on anyone and everyone
>Someone is given to you with the expectation that they will be abused because the giver knows that you are abusive; you abuse them even though you, too, must now be consciously aware of the fact that you are abusive
>Someone tries to do something nice for you, rape Someone repeatedly in turn
>kill a bunch of people for no particular reason using Someone's gift
>lose Someone's gift by your own fault, blame Someone and abuse the shit out of her
>find out that Someone might be happy; try to rape Someone to prevent them from being happy
>killed in retaliation
>"hard life"
>>157154903
Shinji was a fag
>>157155689
>>157155792
>>157155995
>denies that Shinji had a hard life
>posts more evidence of Shinji having a hard life
Nice?
>>157155689
It's hard being retarded.
>>157156401
Fair enough.
>>157123114
Will sakura be a virgin or is just RN shit?
>>157157589
She was still broken in by worms in RN, they just don't explicitly say "violated", and the sex with Shirou doesn't happen.
>>157159367
You do know violation can mean more than just about sex right? In both cases she is being used in inhumane experimentation.
See, this is the thing that causes issues when evaluating Sakura's situation, any way you slice it, she is used as a spare body and host for another magus.
That, and the memes about her having worms in her vagina is factually inaccurate, they familiars that change shape and can this root themselves in her vital organs, it's said in game that they are actually in between the muscles next to vital organs.
Saving her would be pretty easy if they just fell out of her snatch, would make it easy for Rin to find a sample and counteract them too if that was the case.
I would have prefered if they had a soundtrack made by shiro sagisu instead of kalafina, chant shit gets old.
>>157161072
Christ, no one says she was just raped, Zouken clearly had one in her heart. It's just obvious she had worms literallly everywhere in and around, and it was their "mating ground" for at least a week in F/Z. It's way stranger that there are people who believe some wouldn't slip into her vagina, the point is her whole body was violated.
Anybody else want to discuss Strange Fake/the manga/what's going on with the translations?
Any time I bring any of it up, the thread always seems to die before any real discussion or information comes up.
Also: I remembered that there was a picture of True Assassin in vol 2, so I pulled it out.
>>157123114
More like release when? October airing means what, a December release? Or will they probably sub a camrip? That's not saying anything about the other 2 movies.
>>157162111
if it comes to the US or Mexico we will get camrip in a few days i guess
>>157162111
lol no, like April 2018 BD release. A handful of international cinemas might get them earlier, pray that you're close to one.
Camrips didn't happen at all for the Kizu movies, they're pretty strict about those.
>>157139429
>a knight uses an invisible sword
Can anyone explain this? Seems to go against the whole chivalric code.
>>157162701
Everyone would know that she's Arthur if she had Excalibur out all the time.
>>157162701
>Can anyone explain this?
She's a bitch
and a hypocrite
>>157162424
Is the HF release goin to be like Kizu's? I think they released them all within a year whereas something like P3 was several and so was Rebuild NGE
>>157162755
Yes; yet, she also complains all the time that people don't name themselves before fighting her.
>>157162862
When does she complain about that?
>>157162946
Kojirou, Deerman, Lancelot (for some reason), and presumably more that don't instantly come to mind
>>157161869
The problem I have is they were everywhere, but when discussed, people act like they were just shoved into her vagina. See that one pic from the Zero manga, you had guys saying that it was too graphic sexually when the worse part of that was a four year old child being choked by these things (which remember, feed on dead bodies too), and piercing her skin (you see veins in her skin where they go through) with a dead look in her eyes being chained up with iron shackles. If you get off to that, then whoo boy do you need your head checked imo.
The issue I have is that the sexual abuse is really all that is talked about, and somehow, it doesn't get through to people how terrible it was. Discussion makes it sound like she was just some hidden masochist and her experimentation wasn't that bad, primarily because of dumbing it down to "worm rape". It diminishes the situation itself by doing that.
There were particularly poignant parts in HF that get passed over that I hope the movies really spotlight, like the fact she got so used to abuse she can feel hostile intent now, even while asleep, it reminded me of the stories of women who were kept in basements for years who were forced to eat the flesh of their fellow captives and gained this rather acute sense for danger.
>>157162823
Kizu movies were 6 months from each other, with 6 months for BDs. HF might be longer, but all 7 KnK movies were pretty close except the later ones.
>>157163178
She likes fighting opponents when they both know each other's names but she never complaints about it as far as I remember.
>>157163381
>>157162701
She was never a chivalryfag until Zero. She's less prone to using underhanded attacks but she's not a boy scout about it. In her time as king she would sacrifice villages as needed.
>>157163537
>said the person who didn't originally write her character
Should I read the VN before watching this shit? I tried going through the first track but it's so fucking long
>>157163913
99% sure that it's said that she hid her sex in FSN - once, at bare-minimum.
>>157164003
VN is drawn-out but it has great moments.
>>157164146
Then that's an inconsistency with Zero's writing. It's Fact she hid her identity as king and during FSN, even from her master, so suddenly demanding exchanges of names for honor is out of place.
How you want your Light and Darkness in part 3, senpai?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbY63Peyiz4
Guys, like
Stay with me here
Guys
Why won't they just write a fourth Ilya route to animate and make money
>>157164606
Because there's nothing else to be added to the story major enough to require a whole route.
Illya's character and her relatinship with Shirou is completed in Heaven's Feel.
If you want soulless cashgrabs, modern Type-Moon shits out plenty of those every year.
>>157164361
Again, it's not Zero's writing. She bitches at Kojirou, too, as I recall. In UBW. She says something about knights telling each other their names, and he says he doesn't particularly care who she is, which pisses her off.
>>157161166
>kalafina
There's only 1 track by Kalafina in the soundtrack, and barely any chanting in the whole thing.
>>157163537
She never complained about anything like that. When the enemy names themselves, she does so too. She has never asked someone to identify themselves, and even if she did and that person did name themselves, Saber would obviously follow suite. Also, Zero isn't canon.
>>157123114
The only reason I even consider watching this is my interest of how will ufo handle Sakura's thirst for magus semen and worms.
If they will change it to some bullshit like blood or dolphins then I won't even bother.
>>157133847
>In Zero he's just really fucked up
He was great in Zero. He and Gil pretty much carried the show.
Where's the fucking preview.
>>157165308
>She has never asked someone to identify themselves
Did you not look at the picture?
>>157166037
>Zero isn't canon
>>157166258
That quote's her talking to Lancelot
>>157166258
Kojiro tells her his name right off the bat, Saber thinks it is weird because Servants should try to keep their identities hidden. Then Assassin stops Saber before she can name herself, because it doesn't matter to him, which only weirds out Saber even more. There was no "bitching".
>>157164816
>She bitches at Kojirou, too, as I recall.
Actually, Kojiro just announces his name as a matter of fact. She feels conflicted and is about to reveal hers, when he says he didn't do it to force her, and that he's happy or something that she was the kind of opponent that would be willing to do so.
>>157165632
Also it will be hilarious teasing normies who never played the VN about their "pure" waifu being matou household's dedicated cumdump and insect breeding ground.
>>157165717
Agreed, but I know a lot of Zerofags just hate him deeply.
So the only way for anyone to argue that Saber isn't a hypocrite/bitch is to say that only FSN is canon. Got it.
>>157166496
It is very clear to anyone who has read both that Saber in FSN and Zero are not the same.
>>157127358
Yeah. The sheer number of bad endings shows that so much shit can go wrong. The slightest misstep and you could end up dead.
>>157166738
Irrelevant. And don't promote that "sea of fire" shit, either.
>>157166873
>the source materials are irrelevant
Somebody remind me, what was the reason Carmen was determined being the dedicated Fuyuki's hobo cumdump?
>>157166455
>normies
You need to go back.
>>157167001
Carmen?
>>157166908
Oh, okay, let's talk about the source material
>>157167079
Even there Arthur is not a hypocrite nor a bitch.
>>157151122
Enkidu looks like a woman, but has a dick.
>>157166496
>>157166738
Yeah, the events of the Fourth Holy Grail war couldn't possibly have caused her to change her worldview at all.
>>157167785
No, he's flat down there.
At least in the Nasuverse he is.
>>157166496
More like that there can be inconsistencies when a character is written by two different people.
>>157167869
She changed her wish from "going back and redoing her time as king" to "going back and redoing the choice of king".
>>157167869
4th Saber isn't just inconsistent with 5th Saber, but also with Saber as she was described during her own time.
>>157167051
fuck I mean Caren
>>157168042
You wanna talk inconsistencies?
In Fate/stay night, Saber says that Kiritsugu only talked to her three times, with her phrasing implying that each of those three times was to use a Command Spell. Urobuchi took the three times part, but ignored the very blatant implication of her words.
>>157165632
They will change to blood like in RN, and Shinji will only abuse her, not rape her. There is literally no way they'll go all out with it.
>>157168394
I dunno. They showed Fujino getting raped. Even showed her nipples.
>>157168394
>>157168465
Also, Sakura getting raped by the worms was already shown and mentioned in Zero so it's not like they haven't delved into anything like this with her already.
Why did Zouken even bother to raise Shinji if he was completely useless and he already had Sakura? Might as well feed him to the worms and be done with it, no?
>>157167955
So literally made for sumata?
Good taste.
>>157169529
Having 2 options is better than one maybe
>>157169529
Possibly to try to get someone like Aoi for Shinji. Breed Circuits back into the Matou
>>157166490
Without the knowledge of his character in FSN he comes across as just a generic evil asshole. Just look at how a first timer would interpret his wife dying the day before he met Tokiomi.
>>157168392
>Saber says that Kiritsugu only talked to her three times, with her phrasing implying that each of those three times was to use a Command Spell
Wasn't that the case in Zero?
>>157169529
Sakura needed semen to live.
>>157171417
Off the top of my head when they first met Saber asked Kiritsugu what his goal was for the grail and I don't think he used a command spell there
>>157171530
He didn't tell her, or say anything, as I recall.
waiting
It's dead, Jim
Have a new Emiya remix while you wait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUpW3XYWSAI&feature=youtu.be
>>157133515
Frankly, I'm surprised at his UBW ending. I can see the whole experience making him wake up from his magi obsession and humbling him back to his past self, but even so he still abused the wormslut for a long time yet Sakura kept looking after him.
>>157174603
>he still abused the wormslut
No he didn't.
>>157174288
Holy shit, expected another meme, this is fucking sweet.
Thanks anon!
>>157166455
But I love Sakura as a slut.
Reminder that Zero is officially a parallel world and is not in the same world FSN happened.
>>157175632
thank god
How much screentime do you think Taiga will have?
I'd guess less than three minutes in all the movies.
>>157175632
It's funny that Nasu retcon the fact that Zero is supposed to be FSN prequel.Especially with the fact FSN UBW anime by Ufotable is clearly trying to set itself up as a sequel of Zero.
>>157176518
Removing the scene with her teasing Sakura and Shirou about bra sizes would be a crime.
>>157176587
Plus HA mentioning plotpoints of Zero several times.
>>157176518
Didn't Tagia support Sakura x Shirou? She should get some teasing lines at the very least in the first.
>>157176644
I think he got butt-hurt about Urobucther success and impact it had on his series. Despite, the fact he was the one that was very supportive about the anime adaption and hyped it as FSN prequel. Also, if I recall correctly even admitted at one point that Urobucther was a better writer then him.
>>157176845
>I think he got butt-hurt about Urobucther success and impact it had on his series
>Edgetards actually believe this
>>157176845
It's because Zero and SN do not match up. SN says that Kerry left his wife and daughter at the Einzbern mansion to go fight in the 4th war, but in Zero Iri is with him
In SN Saber says she say Kerry shoot Kirei, but in Zero Saber had already disappeared when that event happened
Because of inconsistencies like this, Nasu has to make Zero an alternate version of the 4th war and not the one that connects to the SN timeline
>>157176587
>It's funny that Nasu retcon the fact that Zero is supposed to be FSN prequel.
IT did that itself by not being consistent with what FSN said about the 4th war.
>>157177022
>>157177029
It's Nasu own fault that it ended up that way if he can't even be very consistent to remember the facts he written in his own work while over-seeing Urobucher draft for Zero. Although, that means Ufotable FSN UBW anime is based on the sequel of Zero in which Urobuchter wrote then the one Nasu originally thought of, but never did on his own. So HF still continues to be sequel of Zero then it's still continuing from Urobucther verision of Fate then Nasu.
>>157177359
>>157177022
Nasu cares more about things being cool than consistency anyway. Sometimes I think that fans care more about that shit that Nasu himself.
>>157161072
What do you write? Read the VN before commenting nonsense
The route of sakura in the VN is the best of all, just the movie will be 3 parts
Anime probably in 2 to 3 more years
>>157167869
"Yamero! I should never have been king! Everybody betray me, I fed up with this w-oh hai shirou"said regrets are also no longer from her own experience of the fall of her kingdom, but now from a misunderstanding with her dindu knight
RIP PV hopes
>>157177022
Saber watching Kiritsugu shoot Kirei is a minuscule detail, but god damn, Urobuchi adding Iri to the story and Nasu not correcting him? That's one gigantic fuckup.
I probably get why Urobuchi did it though. Having Iri remain with Illya would prevent the plot point about her being told he was a filthy traitor that just abandoned her, since her mom would defend him with tooth and nail, and having her mother die in the war would make it easier for Illya to become fucked up as she'd be in complete solitude without parents.
>>157123114
The PSVITA OP is all the adaptation it needs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMmOwXCmdTk
>>157123183
Funny /a/ is saying this in 2017. Back in 2012, everyone was desiring ufotable to adapt FSN's HF story after FZ.
>>157181930
/a/ is not one person.
>>157125239
Less than perfect? Why?
>Lancer fights both Saber and Archer in the FSN prologue
>Lancer fights Saber for the second and last time at the end of Fate
>Lancer fights Archer for the second and last time in UBW
What about HF?
I predict nine lives bladeworks and shirou vs kirei to be incredibly fucking badass and don't really care about anything else.
>>157123114
>what are /a/ expectations for this?
To get the fucking wubserker theme on the OST.
>>157181969
That guy was right, everyone at the time was clamoring for it.
>>157154903
In my headcannon there's still a route where Shinji gets his own redemption arc and teams up with his best bro Shirou
>>157182056
tfw Fukasawa isn't on HF but on Katsugeki
webserker OST lost to the ages
>>157182054
I still want an explanation how Shirou managed to trace Berserker's STR stats to wield his blade.
>>157139519
the only problem I have with Fate Zero is that they crammed too much into the last 3 episodes. Guess there is only so much you can do with a 20 minute episode
Someone should archive this thread and post it in 3 years when /a/ hates the HF movies
>>157182092
I'm talking about the recent change faggot, only a few MAL retards are against ufotable continuing to handle the main series.
>>157141068
Fate/Zero isn't a visual novel. It's just a book.
>>157182056
This please. I actually loved that track. Was a full version ever released anywhere?
>>157171462
No she doesn't. We already know that magical energy is sufficient, and non-magi wouldn't be able to do that job. You'd need to suck dry the whole male population of Shirou's school to fill up Sakura's capacity, which is the same as Rin's.
And since she is always being drained, if she actually needed semen to live and couldn't make more magical energy naturally, she either would have been called the school bike by turning out all the boys, or students would have gone missing, since neither happens, this is false.
The situation in HF is one where she is using much more magical energy than she is used to, thus she is one life support and in withdrawal due to having little life energy. We already know you can give someone magical energy without fucking them.
>>157182048
Fights True Assassin for the first and last time.
>>157165717
>>157133847
Kotomines development in Zero pretty much shows how he became the Kotomine in Fate stay night. When his wife died he was unsure why he was sad, whether it was because she died or because he couldn't kill her himself and throughout his life after that he still tried to be good. Then he met Gilgamesh who unleashed Kotomine's true self.
>>157133625
Wasn't Caren a Tsukihime II character?
>>157182101
You can have headcanon all you want, but even in the scenario where he gives up magecraft, and Sakura ends up helping his pathetic ass, he never apologizes, and Nasu says there were no fundamental changes to his outlook when discussing post UBW.
What you see is what you get man. Him being a selfish guy who based his entire existence on one thing and hurt the two people who gave a damn about them (again, with no apology), is all him.
He isn't useful as a partner because either of the sisters know more about magecraft than he does, and he was using Sakura's powers anyway (and using them badly at that). He is a poor partner to have.
Why isn't Illya on the posters?
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>>157177029
If he hates it so much, why did he ask Urobuchi to write it for him?
>>157182718
Actually yeah, had forgotten about that!
I guess they first converted Caren into the male main villain of F/SN, then converted him back into his daughter.
>>157182773
Cause she's barely in part I. Will have like 2 scenes (the park talk should be really good though).
>>157177477
Of course. Kinda like Dragon Ball fans arguing about powerlevels and canon
>>157182092
What changed? FSN UBW backlash?
>>157182773
Illya only shows up to kick Saber's ass in the first movie.
Zero and Hollow were written at the same time, right?
>>157182954
That MAL guy was pessimistic as fuck about UBW and some people decided to be contrarian with him.
Definitely not a widespread opinion though.
>>157183023
Yep.
>>157169529
For some reason he has a soft spot for his own blood, so he lets them freeload, as long as they either obey him or don't get in his way. Byakuya was the same way.
Sakura and Shinji's mother aren't as lucky.
>>157183235
>For some reason he has a soft spot for his own blood
Because Zouken was actually a decent person before the soul alzheimers
>>157177359
Essentially yes. It was even confirmed by production staff, that UBW anime follow same line which they established in Zero anime. So whole FSN game and Zero novel are alternate realities for each other. Anime series follow same timeline. We can assume, that they do something similar for HF too.
>>157183235
>Those scenes where Zouken gets very uncomfortable about the dinner atmosphere with Sakura
Is this what they call gap moe?
How much did Zero retcon?
>>157183470
Fucking kek.
Having read VN/watched Zero first, I laughed hard when episode 1 of DEEN/stay Night started with Saber vs Gil in the middle of some train station.
>>157125239
A bit too much reliance on long explanations of things through characters without visuals to support it. This is just how the VN is as well, but it doesn't adapt well as a 1:1. You need things to be HAPPENING. Sometimes these explanations can be shown instead of told. The episode got so bogged down in it's explanations that on two occasions internal monologues were talking over character dialogue, as if they didn't have time to pace it out. A couple too-fast shots again where you can barely register what's happening.
>>157125667
They can't make Shinji look cool because HF is where shit hits the fan for him.
>>157183593
That's how it was described in the VN. At the time, only 1/4 of Zero had been written. DEEN/stay night were faithful.
>>157183436
So that means Nasu version of FSN will never be adapted since the anime is connected to be more in line with Urobutcher version of it.
>>157183696
Nah, it was just described that they fight in the middle of the flaming city, which was indeed retconned in Zero.
It just looked so ridiculous and over the top in DEEN that it felt like a really sudden way to start the show.
>>157183721
I think that Nasu himself confirmed, that anime itself is alternate timeline, which is for example reason why Berserker's Noble Phantasm work differently than in game.
>>157183721
Well, yes. There was added a lot of changes just for more consistency with Zero anime, like adding Saber's knowledge of previous events or complete change of Gilgamesh's character.
>>157183798
Really? I remember it being twelve revives in the game as well
>>157183914
In the game he wouldn't have been killed by Invisible Air (though at least it explains A rank wolves).
Also the 3 days to recharge lives thing was new.
>>157183905
Weren't they Nasu's additions to the story?
>>157183450
If you mean Hollow, then that scene showed that Shinji and Zouken were being assholes, so Sakura got frosty with them. Zouken can't really hold sway over her at that point, so he gets petty when she enacts stricter etiquette in the household, since Zouken and Shinji are used to being slobs because a maid usually did their cleaning.
>>157184002
>some poor random fucking maid was hired to the Matou house
>accidentally open the worm pit secret passage
>become this week's entertainment and dinner
>>157183696
I'm still mad we never got Gil vs. Saber in Zero. Wouldve been way better than the haphazard finale we got.
>>157183996
Between additions and changes is little difference, but even if changes were from Nasu, it doesn't change reason why they were made.
Damn, is Nasu the George Lucas of anime? He creates something interesting and then just progressively makes it worse due to simple incompetence?
>>157185246
that would be anno
>>157185246
He's more like a capeshit writer, in that his universe just gets more nonsensical and uninspired thanks to milking, and only fresh starts with new stories in relatively new settings could bring out his talent again. Also, adaptations of everything that can actually be good sometimes.
>>157185246
It's not worse though.
>>157185953
GO lol