Yahari thread

File: [FFF] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku - 02 [CCB98585].mkv_snapshot_11.13_[2015.04.10_19.50.44].jpg (337KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

337KB, 1280x720px

I still want to kill this fucking cunt.

I'm surprised this pic survived

File: image.jpg (199KB, 709x877px) Image search: [Google]

199KB, 709x877px

People still watch this?

>>157085763
Read the light novels faggot.

>>157086110
Should I start from volume 1? Or can I skip to wherever the anime ended off?

>>157086157
Start from the beginning. Lots of good bants and monologues that aren't shown in the anime.

>>157085854
Oh wow, some things never change.

File: iroha.jpg (540KB, 1822x1288px) Image search: [Google]

540KB, 1822x1288px

>>157086519

Iroha or death!

>>157086157
the last chapter(translated) is literally where the anime left off, also the second season is missing like half the material it needed to make proper sense since most of were internal monologues in the novels. though they did their best considering the time restrictions

I just want the last volume to come out. We got meme'd so hard on vol 12 some months back.

File: file.png (876KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

876KB, 1366x768px

>>157086676
Saki best girl
>>157087070
whatever happened to that shouldn't it have come out like april something?

File: fsc.png (237KB, 456x1318px) Image search: [Google]

237KB, 456x1318px

>>157087189

It got listed for April, everyone got hyped, then they pulled the plug and announced an indefinite delay.

I am starting to agree with the people who think WW doesn't know how to finish it.

>>157087189
wataru had a hayama/yukino end planned but had to backpedal to avoid outlash

>>157087345
>>157087396
it should end with 8man crashing an arranged marriage between yukino and hayama

File: Yukimom is watching you.jpg (261KB, 2360x1870px) Image search: [Google]

261KB, 2360x1870px

At least the announcement/cancellation tells us that some sort of progress is being made on vol 12. Even if it was just his editor texting him "Is Oregairu ready?" and he texted back "yes" instead of "no".

It'll come eventually. I want to believe.

File: bad_justice.png (351KB, 696x385px) Image search: [Google]

351KB, 696x385px

>>157087345
>they pulled the plug and announced an indefinite delay
God damn. Even if it does finished, everyone who wants to see the end of this probably needs to wait for Vol. 12.5 in another 1 1/2 years, and then Vol. 13 at some unknown point in the future.

>reading the novel
>8man can see past haruno's mask cause his dad taught him how to avoid scams from shady vendors
>this dominoes into the big bad drama from vol11
eyy fucking lmao
>>157087766
nah nigga, its all on making jokes about the va industry and fucking his seyuu friend now

>>157087953
you reminded is 6.75 translated? i was actually really interested in that whole redemption arc

Yuifags got their ending in ANOTHER, why can the rest of the fandom get theirs?

File: 1447791318403.png (284KB, 500x565px) Image search: [Google]

284KB, 500x565px

>>157088235

Maybe because WW wants some kind of stable money stream before he pisses off a ton of fans with vol 12. I don't know how popular Girlish Number has turned out to be.

At least that's what I've been telling myself all this time. But it's starting to feel like he just doesn't give a shit now like >>157088075 says.

>>157088464
i always felt that she pushing 8man to do something to yukinoshita's benefit but she can only do in the worst way possible due to her destructive personality

File: I'm coming for you next.png (2MB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1366x768px

Watari was a hipster, yahari was his weapon to bash the culture around light novels and their fans, but that got an anime adaptation, and worse it got famous enough to be top 4 in the ranks together with the very thing he hated the most.

No wonder he dropped it, its the same fate haganai had, which is ironic since he started writing yahari because haganai went to shit.

>>157086676
Someone post the Mad Max edit

File: 1435878801451.jpg (50KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 1280x720px

What is 'genuine'?

File: 72773471.jpg (50KB, 931x557px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 931x557px

>>157086852
this one?

File: 1293084566876.jpg (5KB, 250x223px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 250x223px

>>157089486
Depression.

>>157089486
a copout, stalling for time and going back to the status quo because he in all of his selfishness doesn't want to lose these 2 friends he has, which as we all know, it won't happen and sooner or later reality or in this case yui being thirsty for his dick will force them back into the fray.

>>157088896
I dunnow.

From what I understand, she just want Yukino to stop being a baby and start standing up for herself.

She was sorta okay with 8man but when she saw that 8man was just enabling her babying by always rescuing her she started disliking it.

For me, the reason she found them "boring" back in the choco making class was because Yukino and Yui weren't trying to fight for 8man and were just trying to pretend they were all friends.

Basically, she just wants Yukino to grow some balls.

>>157089486
There's no such thing, the way he means it. Man is a social animal, all of our social graces and pretensions are natural. Obsession with being 'genuine' is a way for objectively undersocialized and underperforming humans to claim high status and assuage their insecurities.

File: 1494136235845.png (522KB, 531x723px) Image search: [Google]

522KB, 531x723px

I hoping for either a 3P end or a loner end. I just couldn't stand seeing Yui getting heartbroken, she's too good for that.

>>157089729
that's what i thought at first but the way she's escalating the process of breaking her down tells me that there is something else happening an she's probably running out of time. the way watar writes these characters are written everybody has sometype of flaw, so expressing concern in straightforward manner is probably hers. if that;s not the case then she probably would care if she was emulating anybody and probably would have called her out on emulating her a long time ago

>>157089486
Very simply put he wants to have a relationship free of all the fears and facades involved in normal relationships.

In reality I think he just wants someone who can understand him that he can talk frankly with without fear of repercussion.

>>157090352
I think its pretty much this and a bit of this>>157089872

The thing though is what he wants is what everyone else in the world would want. Why shit self-insert MCs with waifus who fully love them are so popular.

However, I don't think that's something he needs just like Yukinoshita. They both need to grow out of their shells.


That kind of no fear relationship shouldn't be something that's natural. It should be something that's built over trust and other stuff like that.

Instead of finding something genuine, he should be the one to try to make it himself.

>>157090099
I think it's more that Haruno doesn't want 8man to be Yukinoshita's enabler and that if they do end up together it wouldn't end up being this cycle of dependency.

Like, if they got together, she wouln't want their relationship to be toxic at least. The escalaltion may be from Yukino falling further and further fro Hikigaya so there's a need to rush.

File: fcc61f493661e519b27c97023d6d3623.jpg (165KB, 779x1200px) Image search: [Google]

165KB, 779x1200px

>>157087189
Saki is shit

>>157087396
I mean, I could sorta see it.

Seemed like Hayama misunderstood he liked someone like 8man when he was younger as well.

I'd say it was probably Yukino then when Haruno found out and started messing with them he backed off or such.

>>157090000
read ANOTHER and get out

>>157091338
i bet he likes haruno

>>157091435
I mean, it's possible as well. He either fell for Haruno's act or even Yukino just being nice to him or such.

But the way he mentioned how Haruno would would go out of her way to destroy things she hated sounded like it was from experience.

For me, it would go like he and Yukino were pals before Haruno fucked them up and so he decided to distance himself from her.

Or possibly rejected Yukino when he was into Haruno who then revealed the person he liked was actually just a fake.

Really seems to go anywhere.

>>157089486
Yukino

File: 1432173177566.jpg (98KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 1280x720px

>>157091435

It's got to be Haruno. And Haruno knows it and uses it to control him.

>>157091644
No. He's admitted that he's never liked anyone although the context implies that he liked someone in the same way 8man liked Orimoto, which was fake.

So he may have used to like her but I think Yukino used to like him, well, the him that she could be dependent on much like the way she is now with Hikki.

>>157085763
>what was even the point then?
autism

>>157091869
Haruno was right. What Yukino feels for Hachiman is far more cruel that he could have imagined.

>>157094435
well yukino has a habit of simply copying what she admires, what i think haruno wants is for her to find her own "self" if i'm making any sense

This is how I see it.
>The 'Y' Hayato liked is Yukinoshita Haruno
>Yukino and Hayama are childhood friends, Yukino being really fond of Hayato that she can closely confide to
>Their family being close, Yukimom decides her spare tire daughter should be used to secure the wealth and friendship to a wealthier family of Hayama
>betrothal between Hayato and Yukino was agreed
>Yukino, being an obedient daughter until now, is sick of not being able to make a decision for herself
>Wanting to break off the betrothal, Yukino seek Hayato for support
>Hayato too wants to break the betrothal, but chose not to support her because their families would clearly be against it, especially Haruno who is the heir of the Yukinoshitas
>Yukino went for it anyway, straining the relationship between Yukino and Hayato
Thus, Yukino's frosty attitude on Hayato, and everyone else.
Then, to the present day. Haruno, being an oneechan and all, wants to help what Yukino wanted to achieve, though her methods are inconvenient. Guess who else's methods are inconvenient? Hachiman. Because of this, Haruno found Hachiman interesting, unlike Hayato, who always have his nice guy persona, which Haruno considered "boring". Hayato isn't even slightly pleased with that, so he took matters to himself and "helped" Hachiman for a problem Hachiman didn't ask Hayato to solve.
Now, for Yukino, the Service Club pretty much tore down her anti-social protective barrier and she's now too attached to them. she sees Yui as a bestfriend she can do girly things with and Hachiman as someone like her, even though their methods are opposite. Throughout the series, Yukino is a driving force behind Hachiman's change and same goes for Hachiman to Yukino, they're basically made for each other. Something happened to both of them in the past that made what they are now, and with their time together they slowly changed each other to become true to their feelings so their relationship can be something genuine. (1/2)

>>157094997
hello watari when are you gonna release the final volume

>>157094997
god dammit you slashed eyed monkey, give us final volume already instead of posting on a vietnamese cat skin-knitting forum

REEEEEEEE

File: CGFolguUIAIetd6.jpg (112KB, 787x1208px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 787x1208px

Good Irohasu, everyone!

File: wataru & mel.jpg (68KB, 500x750px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 500x750px

>>157095154
Watari want to write BL but his editor won't allow him.

File: 1481477964911.png (359KB, 693x676px) Image search: [Google]

359KB, 693x676px

>>157094997
by >Their family being close, Yukimom decides her spare tire daughter should be used to secure the wealth and friendship to a wealthier family of Hayama

did you mean yukino with hayashit or oder sister with hayashit?

Also, what was the problem hayato tried to help 8man with?
Anime only fag here, but it's been too long since I watched it. gonna rewatch it tho

>>157095550
yukino was the spare tire nigga

>>157094997
HayatoxYukino will never be a thing, cause that will just waste what Yukino went through until the present. How can she love someone who broke her trust, willingly sacrificed their relationship just to please their families? Picking Hachiman is the obvious choice, since by doing that she finally made a decision that she, herself, chose to what to become of her future. This is also what Haruno trying to achieve, though she may come off and evil bitch she's just forcing the Service Club to notice the elephant in the room, aka the obvious love triangle that they're all trying to avoid. This is a situation Haruno made to happen sooner than later, in which Yukino can finally decide for herself, fulfilling what Yukino wanted and accomplishing Haruno's goal. Picking Hayato would put all these to waste, not to mention it would not make sense, because she went all her way to break the betrothal and alienate herself from the rest of the family. Picking Hayato would mean following a future that someone else laid out for her. Whicj is the opposite of what she's trying to do all along.
For Yui, as sad it might seem, she's a tragic character. She's been rejected before even confessing for how many times and I doubt she'll get Hachiman at the end. Yui deserved better. (2/2)
>>157095550
Yukino, since Haruno is the heir, so Yukino would be the spare tire. Hachiman's "problem" is that Kaori and co. basically treats him like shit, like what they're used to do in middle school. Hachiman seems not really bothered with it but Hayato thought it was the right thing to do, also I'd like to think that he did it to get Haruno's attention, cause his method of solving the "problem" is out of character on what Hayato he's doing so far. But that seems ineffective.

>>157095687
>>157095837

ah fuck, thanks

Why yukino didn't just accept?
she was in good terms, friendship and shit with hayacuck. Is it just for the mere reason of muh freedom of choice?

>>157095837
yui got a happy ending in another, its AU sure, but still canon since watari made it.

File: 1430507677906.png (234KB, 526x567px) Image search: [Google]

234KB, 526x567px

>>157095929
>AU
Garbage.

>>157095866
Would that really please her?
Think about it. She's doing everything what her parents are telling her. She's just following in her sister's footsteps. She's no individual, she's just a robot who do what's told. Then, at a critical point of deciding who will she spend the rest of her life with, she decided to refuse, because it's not a choice she made but rather her parents. You can say it's muh freedom of choice, but she decided on what she thinks will make her happy, a decision she will not regret in the future. A decision she made herself.

>>157095929
That's nice, but that just confirmed that Yui will never get a happy ending. Honestly, memes aside, Oregairu is great. There's no other series that made me think and write lots of stuff about than this show. Shame that there's no ending yet to answer all the questions

>>157095154
Soon.

>>157095929
what's AU?
Amish United?

>>157096119
then It's the parents' fault for reveling the intention. Going with the flow of yukino and hayacuck relationship without interfering would have been better, I guess.

>>157096627
Alternate Universe, I think.
That's the thing. Even though Yukino was fond of him and maybe or maybe not like him romantically, Hayato was never interested in Yukino. He treats her as any other close friend of his, but who he likes is her sister, Haruno. Seriously, who can call a popular boy like Hayato and show up in a second besides Haruno? Even Yukino can't do that, given their current state of relationship, unless it's their parents' wishes.

File: 1480645033315.png (330KB, 664x462px) Image search: [Google]

330KB, 664x462px

>>157096865
mind:
>blown

what happened to my boy zaimozuka, in case you follow the LN

>>157097285
Sorry, I don't follow the LN. But I second this request, if there's any LNfag here I also would like to know, Zaimozuka's character is really interesting

Is Girlish Number any good? That shit's better be a masterpiece if it means vol12 isn't getting released

File: imouto.png (91KB, 249x292px) Image search: [Google]

91KB, 249x292px

Komachi endgame fucking confirmed

>>157085763
But not interfering means Yukino just agreeing with Yui, which is the point on why Hachiman interfered

>>157086676
Why is Iroha literally perfect?

>>157087396
No. Watari had planned HachimanxYukino ending as I said here >>157094997 >>157095837 but he had to make adjustments cause obviously it would divide the fanbase and Yuifags like you wouldn't like it. Regardless of that, YukinoxHayato just doesn't make sense.

>>157098130
Honestly I am 90% of the recent (past two years) HayamaxYukino posts and even I don't think it could happen in normal circumstances. The story isn't going in that direction at all if you just read the story. The problem is the delay, the publishers are delaying it because WW won't make a Yukino end, probably because there is a loner end or a Yui end. WW will either rebel and put a HayamaxYukino to salt the earth for them rejecting his end or he actually wants to end it with HayamaxYukino and we aren't seeing it. My impression was that HayamaxYukino was put to bed in vol 10 and that Hayama's current self was no longer a major player in the story but I could be wrong.

Though I completely disagree with most posts on the issue of Hachiman. I don't think for a second Yukino likes him and vice versa.

File: pablo.jpg (629KB, 1396x1439px) Image search: [Google]

629KB, 1396x1439px

>>157098130
fucking yuifags. They already got their happy ending in the AU, what else do they want? official ending?

>>157085854
God, I miss those threads.

Just make 8man and pink panties hatefuck each other until they like it

>>157098130
How has he had to make adjustments? A normal Yukino ending would not cause a delay. Take your head out of your ass.

I don't think a Yukino end is happening. If it was going to happen it would have.

>>157098489
ANOTHER was great and I liked it. I want more though. It was a nice tease but the main course is usually the tastiest.

>>157098655
the only solution I can think of is

Truck-kun

>>157085763
Fuck Yukinoshitfags and their damsel in distress.
I'd rather go watch a Korea drama then to watch her go on about muh family issues.
She is the reason why Yahari gone to shit.

>>157095837
>But that seems ineffective.
Because it was self serving and dickish for no reason.
>you guys are cunts and here are two girls way hotter than you two who like Hachiman
Hachiman has a slight of hand or goes big game when it is time for him to do that sort of thing.

>For Yui, as sad it might seem, she's a tragic character. She's been rejected before even confessing for how many times and I doubt she'll get Hachiman at the end. Yui deserved better.
She does deserve better. I am hoping however this ends she will come out a winner. She might lose the game of Hachiman but win the game of life. She learns some stuff, fixes herself, and is finally able to become both of their trues friends.

>>157098130
Nah Watari wants to make a Yui end. He's being held back by editor because Yukino is the most popular girl in Japan and they are afraid of the backlash.

As a protest, Watari wrote ANOTHER.

>>157098655
>A normal Yukino ending would not cause a delay
There's possibility that Watari had planned a controversial ending, but YukinoxHayato, of all controversial endings, is just fucking retarded. If Yukino loved Hayato all along then why would she break off the hypothetical betrothal? She should've went with the flow, but she didn't. You're just spouting "muh Watari planned a YukinoxHayato ending" with no actual argument on why would Watari would want that. Please, enlighten me.
>ANOTHER was great and I liked it. I want more though
Typical Yuifag everyone
>>157099362
If he does, then making Hachiman hold off her confessionS.

Speaking of the ending, if it wouldn't be a YukinoxHachiman then the most sensible ending would be a loner ending. Think about it.
>Yui obviously like Hachiman
>Yukino, though subtly, also likes Hachiman, though her feelings are still unsure (proof: the whole zoku OVA/vol 10.5 aka jealousy when she saw Iroha and Hachiman's pic, the shopping scene, etc., also the bag's content, which is obviously a valentines present for Hachiman)
>Hachiman clearly don't like Yui because of he doesn't want her to confess, but Hachiman's feelings for Yukino is unclear
So I see two possibility of an ending with these circumstances, Yukino confess to Hachiman and he accepts, which I think will be the ending, or Yukino confess to Hachiman and he rejects her, which I think is the cause of the delay. There's really no concrete evidence that Hachiman likes Yukino romantically, so the loner ending is not impossible. Though I can't think of anything on how Watari would pull that off

>>157099933
>*If he does, then making Hachiman hold off her confessionS is just pointless, unnecessary, and useless.

>>157099972
I wouldn't say they're pointless, I think it is hilarious everytime he does it and you can see Yui dying inside.

>>157100068
They're not pointless if you put it that way, but in regards to the conclusion of the series, if it'll be a Yui ending, then it'll be indeed pointless.

I'd like to think that if the delays aren't just caused by his other works/editor disapproval, then maybe it would come out along with a movie. Watari has been noticeably making works with the intent to be adapt into anime, so it isn't far-fetched to think that he's been in collaboration with feel or whatever studio so volume 12 would come out along with an anime adaption, to please both fanbase and maximize the profit.

>>157099933
That is just the most controversial ending possible. I have already stated that just d ok the story it shouldn't happen.

>go with the flow
That is her problem. If she wanted Hayama but only went with the flow she would still have her problems. Even if she got with Hayama nothing would be fixed. By being her own person but getting with Hayama without the family shit attached by her own means would show she came a long way. Your reasoning behind there being no HayamaxYukino end is flawed.

>>157099933
I confirm loner ending
>8man becomes a NEET, but functional. Probably a housekeeper, or scammer

>Yukino goes to murica and becomes a scientist or some shit

>Yui becomes a cat lady

screencap this

>>157085763
>Saves Yukinoshita once again
Did the next volume come out already or did you just reinterpreting shit that's over a year old?

>>157100350
He saved her from Yui in that scene.

>>157099972
>>157100068
It seems like Yukinofags don't even understand the story and Hachiman's character. Figures.

>>157099933
Well, on the confession thing, some of it is on Yui's court after all as she's never upfront about it. The whole thing was, as Yui described, dirty.

Besides that, I can't see a Yuino/8man end happening as they honestly are way too much alike.

It'd honestly just best to wrap up the whole Hayama/Yukinoshita stuff first whatever it is even if I don't really know how to do so without turning into something immensely generic.

The only way I personally see a Yui end happening is if she just upfronts and confesses to him at the end. My preference is to have him confess to her but, due to the circumstances, maybe needing to save Yukino, has to reject him which gives a finality to their stuff.

>>157089486
An open relationship with no pretense. AKA 8man when he's with Komachi, Hayama, and Iroha.

>>157099933
>jealousy when she saw Iroha and Hachiman's pic, the shopping scene, etc.
Anime only.

>which is obviously a valentines present for Hachiman
That is anime only too. All we saw in the LN is Yui looking in her bag and acting weird.

>Hachiman clearly don't like Yui
He can't trust her feelings are real. He was really disappointed when Yui gave him cookies out of thanks and not love.

>>157100370
Yui was helping her out.

File: 1440249471806.png (109KB, 240x257px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 240x257px

>May 2017
>he still thinks 8man likes Yui romantically

>>157100370
The worst part is that he really shouldn't have because Yukino needs to learn to stand up for herself.

I mean, he did sorta give her a chance, and she failed miserably. If she can't stand up to frikkin Yui over her future then what chance would Yukino have over someone like her mother or sister?

>>157100397
Yui hasn't been dirty.

Yukino is her own person and doesn't need saving anymore. That is the way the story is closing, her being her own person. Yui wouldn't say no to dating 8man.

>>157100436
Nice memes.

>>157100208
Shh, you'll trigger the Yuifags. But.. Christ, even though I'm an Irohafag I can feel Yui's suffering in that bottom mid pic.
>>157100210
Yes, someone will decide of her future. But what does it matter if you love the person you'll be getting betrothed, anyway? It'll be hitting two birds with one stone to Yukino, marrying someone you love and obeying your parents. But of course, she didn't really love him, that's why she broke off the betrothal.
>>157100432
Watari have influence on the adaptions, right? They won't make anime-only scenes without the approval of Watari, especially if it would drastically affect the ending, how minor it might be.
>>157100490
>Yui hasn't been dirty.
>Yui said it herself that she fights dirty

>>157100370
Friends can still support eachother without resorting to the kinds of manipulation that 8man has been doing throughout the story. All he did was voice his opinion and give Yukino a chance to act on her own accord, which she did. Just because he thinks Yukino needs to self-actualize doesn't mean he needs to leave her high and dry.

>>157100490
I was talking about the final scene with forcing Yukino to bend over and such. it was roundabout and very much described as dirty.

While it would be nice to think that, Yukino just giving in to Yui's rape stare and thus had to be saved again.

My interpretation of the finale was actually that Yui basically wants that both of them to not confess and keep the status quo as, even when it's clear she's thirsty as fuck, she described the cookies as "Just gratitude".

Because, it's obvious that if either of them confess, things would not be the same.

In the end, Yuigahama Yui is just too nice for her own good.

>>157089486
Getting head in a swimming pool

File: 1477736654947.png (769KB, 700x750px) Image search: [Google]

769KB, 700x750px

>>157100628

>>157094997
>>157095837
Obligatory reminder that Yukino is heavily implied gay for Yui and that the delays are probably because Watari is doing something completely out of the ordinary that can't be executed with simple tropes and old development patterns.

Obligatory reminder that Yukino's cookies weren't even made for 8man, that he was treated like an afterthought in her recipe, and that was the reason she was so reluctant to give them to him.

Obligatory reminder that these threads are still a complete fucking waste of time because this series is never going to finish, and that everyone is going to argue about the exact same shit they already have dozens of times.

>>157100555
>Yes, someone will decide of her future. But what does it matter if you love the person you'll be getting betrothed, anyway? It'll be hitting two birds with one stone to Yukino, marrying someone you love and obeying your parents. But of course, she didn't really love him, that's why she broke off the betrothal.
But you don't understand, to be a better person she needs to not go with the flow. Hayama won't truly love her too knowing if she has this problem. I don't think she likes Hayama, I think that is a flawed way of thinking she doesn't.

>>Yui said it herself that she fights dirty
She doesn't even know what dirty is. If she was dirty she would have manipulated Yukino into accepting her dating Hachiman and getting Hachiman to agree. She wants his genuine love.

>They won't make anime-only scenes without the approval of Watari, especially if it would drastically affect the ending, how minor it might be.
Feel has been fucking everything up.

>>157100628
Yui was trying to motivate Yukjino into solving her own problems, letting things settle, and then getting her Hikki.

>>157100710
>Yukino is heavily implied gay for Yui
This. Honestly, its pretty obvious they're going to end up in some weird ass menage a trois in the future ala Honeymoon Salad.

Although, the legal wife would clearly be Sensei.

Christ, why do Yahari threads always devolve into these shitty autistic head-canon flame wars. No one fucking cares about your shitty distorted interpretations of the story you mongs.
>inb4 Yuipoll-fag

>>157100628
Yeah, Yui is actually telling Yukino that Yui is going to take 8man in the end and Yukino has to be okay with it. She wants everything, which has been implied to mean Hachiman as a lover and Yukino as a friend and she sees this as the only way to get it. Yui was open about because she thought it would actually help Yukino and 8man to go into action but don't think for a second she didn't want them to comply.

In the AU Yui knows that Yukino likes him but in a decision that takes a few seconds decides that she is taking Hachiman.

File: 1439339685788.jpg (970KB, 1412x2000px) Image search: [Google]

970KB, 1412x2000px

i fapped to yukinoshita for the first time last week

discuss

>>157100845
Huh? I interpreted it as Hacihman as a friend because of the chocolates. They've had numerous scenes involving the importance of the feeling of a giver which is why 8man, who sort of knew Yui was into him, reacted shocked when she said it.

>In the AU
Isn't that pretty much the same as in the main timeline as well?

>>157100743
I don't even care anymore, just.. enjoy these
>https://exhentai.org/g/626106/58b5776926/
>https://exhentai.org/g/1042521/c4bc27b38f/
>https://exhentai.org/g/1016084/084b5da072/
>https://exhentai.org/g/1054925/72919571b3/
>https://exhentai.org/g/1054920/442eef911f/

>>157101033
Studio A's doujins are #1

>>157100789
Answer always is yuipollfag.

>>157101033
I really wish the second one would get translated. It's been my favorite one so far.

>>157099972
He holds off her confession because he is afraid of a relationship.

The fact that he invited Yui to the aquarium date is the proof that he is willing to take their relationship a step forward.

What if 8man ends up with Iroha who is also with Hayama but Iroha then dies which leaves both of her husbands a need to awkardly learn to love one another?

>>157101424
I think its more like he doesn't want to ruin the status quo of the club at this point.

>>157101424
But then you get to see this >>157100208

File: 1457096268513.gif (209KB, 353x325px) Image search: [Google]

209KB, 353x325px

>>157100208
>>157101567
The director is framing this as NTR and that Yui is sad but she isn't. This is a misunderstanding.

>>157101397
It's short, so why don't do it yourself? Capture2text, some translator and you should have basic idea what they saying. I learned some korean this way

>>157100208
I don't get why people even cite the date in regards to shipping Yukino when Yukino specifically went thinking it was a date with Yui and was extremely visibly disappointed when 8man showed up.

As in, so disappointed that he was there that she started turning things awkward and had to be specifically asked by Yui to stop being such a downer.

>>157101471
He doesn't trust her feelings are real and he is the number one reason any time the club isn't behaving.

>>157101471
>I suppose I could understand in that case. Occasionally, I’d learn from the masses, take in the mood, and play it off. Then, I’d just brush it all off with a simple “it’s what everyone’s doing.” Doing that made you want to have expectations, be spoiled, lose yourself, and wait.
>But I don’t think that’s something you should do.
>It’d be insincere if all you did was wait. Regardless of the answer and conclusion awaiting you at the end of the tunnel, you should make sure to take that step forward without deception and incredulity and leave the regrets for afterwards.
>That’s why, I took in the mood and decided to ask now.
>“By the way…”
>I squeezed out those words with a hoarse voice and Yuigahama turned around. Her inclined head and her eyes urged me to go on. Seeing her straight-on was somewhat dazzling that I slightly averted my face.
>“…Do you have a day you’re free on soon?”

Why would 8man ask Yui out when it's near Valentine's day?

Anyone read the Yahari rip off published by the same publisher?
Is it good?

I wanna read the Yahari rip off, if someone has translated it, you're jesus.

>>157102093
>>157102388
I doubt it's even uploaded. I don't think nips care enough, I couldn't find a single thread about it on 2ch.

>>157085854
>>157098546

DAYONE

>>157102546
SORE ARU

>>157089486
http://www.howtotell.com/

>>157101732
Even though we all know 8man x Yukino is True End, 8man x Iroha and Yui x Yukino is Good End

File: 1439732170121.jpg (136KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

136KB, 1920x1080px

who sensei here

>>157103126
not me because I'm not a faggot

>>157102497
Same here lel
The only times I have seen it referenced on the internet is to make fun of it for being a ripoff.
I feel bad for the author in some way but holy shit the synopsis isn't flattering.

Begs the question why the publishers would publish a complete ripoff like this.

>>157103308
Possibly because of the delay or the stupid idea of trying to capture lightning in a bottle once more.

Honestly, another game would be okay. Hell Ore Imo had some decent endings in its VN.

>>157103308
>Begs the question why the publishers would publish a complete ripoff like this.
We could go into whole publisher vs WW theories here, but fuck this.

Funny part is that publisher claimed on twitter that it sold very good in first week, and yet no one is or was talking about it.

>>157085763
Is Hachiman basically Araragi without supernatural shit?
>"I don't need friends"
>talks like an autist
>has an imouto

>>157103462
>yet no one is or was talking about it.
I didn't even know it was a thing. Bloody hell.

I gues nips love making shallow copies of things, so I can at least be glad they're doing it with something of substance other than another Infinite Stratos clone.

>>157085854
But why? He's a bro.

>>157103462
>We could go into whole publisher vs WW theories here, but fuck this.
Yeah, I don't want to retread that conversation. I am sick of it since we have no new information even if there is all sorts of weird shit going on. Sorry for bringing it up, people are starting to straight up make things up.

That being said it isn't odd for the publishers/magazines to publish similar content of already running, successful series. Only the popular LNs get mentioned on /a/ and there are about 5 ones never mentioned here for every popular one. A good percentage of them are a hodgepodge of works and ideas ripped from more successful ones. So on that side it might just be a straight up coincidence that a ripoff showed up.

>Funny part is that publisher claimed on twitter that it sold very good in first week, and yet no one is or was talking about it.
Can't blame them, can't exactly say their new novel is shit. Maybe it sold better than expected, which is three more than diddly diddly squat.

>>157103424
Just finish it. That's all. Move on.

>>157103620
Maybe they discussed it somewhere else, but even on twitter there isn't much more than some random pic of bought copies and shops trying to promote this.

>>157103630
I'm confident that all rumors about delays comes from /a/. At this point only things you can find on 2ch related to yahari are waifu wars, fanfics and some faggot trying to sell yukinoxhayama, which I wouldn't be surprised if he picked it up here.

Do nips have their own twitter clone or some other social media they use? Would love to lurk some there.

>>157104004
no nips love twitter

>>157104004
>Do nips have their own twitter clone or some other social media they use? Would love to lurk some there.
They love twitter more than basketball americans.

What I tend to find on 2ch are shitposts. We waifuwar and spam HayamaxYukino too but they are the ones who actually write character dialogue for their shitposts. They only time they are serious is to express disappointment that it is taking so long and how they just want it to end. The love for the series still exists but they are as fatigued as us.

I love Yui and I want to see the Yui end soon but I don't think I will end up seeing any end.

>>157104004
I heard rumours that they're starting to use Mastodon but that's very very recent

>>157104068
>>157104108
>they love twitter
>literally no talk about 'copy'
Now I really want to know sales numbers.

>>157104288
So I doubt that there will be anything relevant.

I am bored and feel like shitposting.
Any good romcom with active shipperwars?

>inb4 eromanga sensei
But I don't want to watch anything written by that Oreimo hack

>>157105319
SnK ain't romcom but there sure are a lot of shipfags on every thread

So after reading the LNs, I have to say, they did a pretty decent job adapting the material to the point where I almost prefer it.

I mean, yeah the LN has more stuff in it but there's just something about watching the anime where you're trying to read between their expressions without being told what they mean.

Especially Haruno.

>>157105679
If I wanted to go to hell I would shoot myself in the head.

>>157105777
>So after reading the LNs, I have to say, they did a pretty decent job adapting the material to the point where I almost prefer it.

Wrong. The anime is objectively terrible.

I don't buy publisher/WW disagreement as being the cause of the delay. Vol 12 is likely quite a bit longer than previous volumes since it is going to resolve the possible romances and therefore has to end the whole story or else subsequent volumes will sell like shit.

Vol 12 being a lot longer than normal combined with the work WW is doing on other stuff makes the most sense for why it's taking so long.

>>157105809
No. The anime doesn't portray Yui as an awful person.

>>157105873
What? The anime is a bad adaptation on every level imaginable. Not one single thing about season 2 has been properly adapted.

Is there anything this season which would appeal to someone that liked watching 8man and anything along those lines?

I feel like there's less and less series I want to watch in recent seasons, everything seems like a second/third season of something I don't like.

File: 1493825950115.png (463KB, 681x720px) Image search: [Google]

463KB, 681x720px

>>157105923
Yui being cute was.

I don't bother with scenes where Yukino was the focus since they didn't seem important.

>>157105923
It gave people enough to understand the story. The lns are always there is they want to delve deeper.

>>157106051
>It gave people enough to understand the story

Except that's wrong, because nobody understands the story.

>>157105814
Nah. It's more like there's a whole arc they have to cover thourgh Haruno, Hayato, the Yukinoshita family, and whatever superficial "change" Yukino will get.

Well, on the other hand, we could just end up like the Haruhi series...

File: 5318506-01.jpg (309KB, 855x1280px) Image search: [Google]

309KB, 855x1280px

>>157105985
Not an anime but I found Hoshino Me o Tsubutte to be pretty good.

The translation is still 4x chapters behind though.

>>157106086
>...
Kill yourself. Not just for that, but for a bunch of other reasons as well.

>>157106071
I do.

>>157106086
I don't think the final volume will have much drama on the romance side of things either. I think the family side of things will be settled without much input from Hachiman.

>>157106181
Not from the anime and don't pretend like that's not true.

>>157106219
There are enough signs of things to come. If you walked into a meadow and saw a big rib cage it wouldn't be odd to think there was a big animal that died there.

So from what I understand, Isshiki is into both Hachiman and Hayama, right?

Where Hayama is the Ideal and Hachiman is the settlement?

>>157106430
in the ln she's mostly into hayama

>>157106509
True. I think she just likes hanging with Hikigaya for some reason. Her responses to Hayama feel more genuine at least.

She also said something like "Well, but this makes it all the more fun to compete with. After all, some people
aren’t even worth competing with."

She probably knows better than to get in the way of the service club trio...probably.

>>157106430
She's actually madly in love with Tobe but she doesn't realize it yet.

>>157105809
Only season one. Season two was pretty good other than them directing some scenes in a very particular way when the LN wasn't nearly as specific in the same instance.

>>157106742
False. Season one is fine, but season 2 is absolute nonsense. Then again, no one really understands season 1, so it was only natural that nobody would end up understanding season 2 either.

>>157106714
Oy. That applies to everyone, you know. That's like stating how people breathe.

>>157106817
So it's Tobe with the harem and no one else

File: rac.jpg (104KB, 451x574px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 451x574px

If we get a haganai ending I'm ending myself

>>157106865
No no. It's Isshiki's with the harem of 8man, Hayato, and Tobe.

>>157107000
how is it a harem if none of them want her

File: 49416921_p0.png (185KB, 500x700px) Image search: [Google]

185KB, 500x700px

>>157107000
I can't deny those trips

>>157105814
It's almost definitely publisher meddling. WW has an ending he's set on but the editors won't accept it, probably because it doesn't involve 8man getting with Yukino or Yui (and probably not anyone else, but muh "main heroines" are the important part here) so he basically stops writing and goes to work on other projects instead. Him working on other stuff when he hasn't finished the work he's most known for is not good for his image as an author, so there's very obviously some serious reason why he isn't doing so, but presumably someone who writes a story like this is stubborn enough to go to that kind of length.

Publisher gets fed up with waiting and publishes a blatantly plagiarized story, probably to pressure WW and replace him in the worst case scenario, but luckily that doesn't seem to be working.

WW is too coherent of a writer for this to be simple indecisiveness. He's the type of writer that would have an ending decided way ahead of time, especially since he's actually ending this in a timely fashion (in terms of story length) and not going for Shounen style endless story arcs. The most probable explanation for all this bullshit is that he's being stonewalled by somebody.

>>157107077
>WW is too coherent of a writer
yeah, no. also could you people stop pulling shit out of your asses? not everyone knows that /a/ is full of shit that shouldn't be trusted.

Yui doesn't love Hachiman.

>>157106807
Season one was ugly and semi-episodic stories that were largely carried by 8man being an entertaining character. Season two is both when the actual overarching plot kicked in and also has much better production values in general.

>>157107139
Just because you're a speedreader/animeonlyfag doesn't mean everyone is. Stop shitposting.

>>157101033
>https://exhentai.org/g/1054925/72919571b3/

Holy shit. If anyone's down to translate this, I'll gladly typeset.

>>157107201
>Season two is both when the actual overarching plot kicked in
That's how I know you don't know what you're talking about. The actual story to this starts in the very first volume. The story kicks off near the end of volume 4, takes a break in volume 5, then comes back in volume 6 and goes on from there on out.

>>157107077
Can you stop sucking ww dick please? He's not that good. I think he has a meme ending like haganai planned and that is definitly bad writing.

>>157107269
You have got to be kidding me. Even LN readers didn't understand the story.

If Saika was a chick, would Hachiman actually be into her(him)?

>>157107276
>Iroha
Absolutely not. I'll do anything Yui or Yukino but nothing that is exclusively Iroha.

>>157107077
Yeah, something is obviously going on but like I said earlier we don't have any idea and the idea has been beaten to death. You are probably correct that it is the publishers blocking it.

>but muh "main heroines" are
Oh, you're that fag aren't you.

>>157107377
No. Saika is a joke character. Hachiman only lets down his guard exactly because he's male. And a joke, albeit an unfunny one.

>>157107425
Do the one this anon mentioned >>157101397

>>157105814
>>157106086
If the story actually ends next volume there's no romance. They would need to pull an entire romantic arc right from their asses because none of the main characters even have a healthy personal relationship right now, let alone a romantic one ready for conclusion. Same goes for Yukino's family drama. There is no time for any kind of major new development arc, because conclusion and resolution itself can take up an entire volume by itself. there's no reason for anyone to believe Watari's going to suddenly drop a Kawakami-sized final novel purely because he somehow decided that 12 has to be the ending and also procrastinated all that shit until now.

>>157107489
I can't typeset. It seems like way more of a hassle than translating something. That doujin's dialogue is word for word exactly what you think it is.

>>157107458
I liked it at first. The girls don't even get jealous over him so it is a waste.

>>157107542
I knew it was you narrative fag.

>>157107542
>If the story actually ends next volume there's no romance. They would need to pull an entire romantic arc right from their asses because none of the main characters even have a healthy personal relationship right now, let alone a romantic one ready for conclusion. Same goes for Yukino's family drama.
I know people like to joke around, but does the community seriously not understand where we are in the story? Comments like this have been going on for too long to believe that it's a joke.

>>157107542
When something takes this long and is delayed, is a clear sign that a shit meme ending will come. I think ww had a shitty loner ending planned and the publishers got mad. LN like this tend to be a waste of time with crap endings.

>>157107458
I'd say the same for Kawasaki as 8man not remembering her name is actually pretty odd.

Saika at least provides 8man with another guy friend alongside Chuuni.

>>157107612
He is one person and he has made that comment in every thread he has been in since volume 10's release. It would be like putting the sins of Yuipollfag on every Yuifag to take his comments seriously.

>>157107425
Let me clarify, it's not specifically the fact that they're main heroines, it's that they're shipping-poll-topping main heroines in a story that seems to have recently developed a very shipping-obsessed fanbase.

>>157107661
Which is why Saika and Saki shouldn't have been written in the first place. Neither of them contribute to anything really. At least Zaimokuza helps in Hachiman's schemes and does shit.

>>157107653
>implying there has ever been a good ending created by publisher meddling

>>157107653
I think the publishers are willing to sit on this until they get what they want. Only WW looks bad at the moment.

So there will either be no end or a vanilla, non offensive end. Most likely a friends end where 8man doesn't outright reject or accept either's feelings.

>>157107673
>recently
happened since season 2 aired and the visual novel and another only made it worse

>>157107673
But thats the whole point. Shipping heroines...the story is mediocre at best. It's like saying you play persona for the plot, when everyone plays it for the girls.

>>157107729
A waste of time ending then. Like I said.

>>157107755
what is the story in your opinion? also this is the average oregairufan, fucking disgusting

>>157107595
>it's that autist that makes a nickname for literally everyone he disagrees with
Some things never change.

>>157107673
>>157107740
Why do people act like we are the only fanbase for things?

2ch, ie the people are actually the audience, are far worse shipppers and waifufags and have been for oregairu for years.

>>157107810
i don't see how that contradicts what i said here>>157107740
if anything, you agreed

>>157086023
Why is he so sexual?

>>157106125
Thanks, i'll check it out.

>>157107795
>shipcancer
>fans
Nah. They don't give a single shit about the story (as they make very clear in every post they make) and just want Watari to write their self-insert fantasy through 8man.

I have no idea why these faggots are even following a story like this instead of some trashy isekai.

>>157107839
because you're a faggot

>>157107795
But I'm not a fan

>>157107869
then fuck off

>>157107867
seems like you were right

>>157107867
90% of the people following this novel do so for the girls. And I'm not a fan by the way.

>>157107836
I hate this idea that shipperfags fell out of the sky and that before season two there weren't any.

>>157107867
Yukinofags are the worst about this. They thinking up any reason to think that "WW is really making a great Yukino ending he wants, you'll see! He is just taking a bit long."

At least Yuifags got a good end in ANOTHER.

>>157107931
fuck off yuipollfag, your hands are stained with the shit you accuse others of

>>157107703
They were written for their mini-arcs (and the reflection on the main trio that gave) and to flesh out the rest of Hiki's class. They serve a purpose.

And Zaimokuza himself is a joke character: he's the author poking fun at himself/LN writers. Him helping out in 8man's schemes, when Saika and Saki do the exact same shit, isn't really a point in his favour of relevancy. There's a reason most of his stuff got cut in the transfer to anime.

File: 1487529811748.jpg (86KB, 561x606px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 561x606px

If this had 0 shipp girls nobody will be following this. Prove me wrong.

>>157107966
Explain to me how I am wrong with my observation that Yukinofags are the ones who are pretending that this isn't a huge redflag?

>>157107972
That's cute, but Saika and Saki are the most worthless characters in the show. Even fans of Saki that love writing fanfics need to fabricate a personailty for her.

>>157108014
have you been a part of these threads? it has been almost nothing but: "hurr yui will get her hikki, she got a good end, now she will get the genuine end hurr" for motnhs

irohafans brought their cancer back when theova came out, but for the majority it has been yuifans or just one yuifan and some sidegirls constantly shitting up the threads

>>157108085
That isn't the point. I am saying that there is so much evidence against a Yukino end that people are ignoring it. >>157107077 is right on this.

I like these threads. It's one of the few threads that we actually have discussion, not only shitpost, although since 2nd season the quality of the discussion has dropped considerably -- this thread was a interesting one. It made me want to read some parts again, i don't remember shit and i barely can take part in the discussion.

Thanks to threads like this my life has been way too much influenced by this novel, i wish i had more interesting things to spend my time into.

/blog

Who cares. Yui is going to win anyway.

>>157108026
>Even fans of Saki that love writing fanfics need to fabricate a personailty for her.

She already has a personality in the LN.

>>157108085
What do you like about this novel? Why do you follow it?

>>157108157
i like the characters, the growth of the main characters, the story and the mysteries

the waifuwars are the things i dislike the most, because we can't have nowmal threads because of that

File: Raiju-san.jpg (24KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 400x400px

>>157108026
Well if you wanted to have a shitpost-off, anon, why didn't you just say so?

The most worthless character is clearly pic related. None of his lewds make my pee-pee hard at all. Saki is at least good for eye candy.

>>157108204
But you do realize that a novel like this with many girls will obviously have waifu threads and discussions right?

>>157108219
Tobe contributes more to the story than either Saki or Saika, so try again. At least his character didn't attract any shipping cancer, so that's a plus in my book.

>>157108026
To be fair to Saki, she does seem to have some interest in 8man for some reason. It does feel kinda odd though, mainly because her scenes feel out there. Like, at least Saika and Chuuni pop up once in a while in the LN.

If you want to complain about fanfics, Miura x Hikki is actually ridiclously popular which HikkiYui fics are depressingly low.

>>157108246
then watari shouldn't have written so many girls that don't really do anything, he should have tightened up his story, focused on that and finished it

People should just acknowledge Yui is the romance heroine and then either move on or discuss anything else. Romance isn't a big deal in this story so stop focusing so much on it.

>>157107983
It would need a competely different plot to make the story without the girls but i would read an action/adventure novel/manga with a protagonist like 8man.

>>157108257
I don't give a shit about fanfics in general, so no thank you. I'm saddened that this series has attracted "those" type of people.

>>157108268
But then it wouldn't have been this popular

>>157108305
then it became popular for the wrong reasons

Incest end > Cake end > loner end > 3some end > Iroha end > Yui end > Yukino end

rest are irrelevant

>>157108288
> i would read an action/adventure novel/manga with a protagonist like 8man.

I would too, it would be fun.

>>157108288
so, re:zero

>>157108332
>cake end
Not happening, she is already mine.

>>157108330
Maybe, just maybe, this is what the author wanted.

>>157108332
Trap end best end

>>157108249
Tobe and his two chucklefuck friends provides shit all: they're just garbage cluttering up the novel and distracting from time spent describing Saki's panties or Saika's cuteness.

And Tobe does clog up shipping: he's a potential partner for Iroha and Ebina. That he's not actively shilled because no-one in their right mind likes this useless waste of lines doesn't mean he's not as cancerous as the rest.

>>157108387
You are part of the problem.

>>157107931
Shipping was not a major component to the show in season one, batman comparisons were overwhelmingly what people posted about, and by extension 8man doing edgy shit. Saika and Sensei probably had more waifufaggotry than the actual heroines did, especially because the trap boom was going on strong at that point.

Season 2 is when the story actively focused on romance between not just the club members but cast members in general. The entire focus of the story shifted toward awkward teen romance dramas and Iroha in particular increased the overall pressure and turned people fucking rabid.

>>157108488
who are you?

Who in their right mind would think that a loner ending is a good ending?

>>157108539
people that hate the story and the characters and just want to shitpost

>>157108539
His parent so that he would focus to study, get into good university and then good job and finally good wife

>>157108505
Yes, on /a/. Meanwhile everywhere else was in shipping mode before season one aired. Vol 6 did a lot for shippers but people seem to forget this.

>>157108539
Someone who has a lot of similarities with Hachiman but is a bit older, lonely and bitter and wants to see the same happen to Hachiman

>>157108505
No. Everyone was shipping since day one. Just because it got popular with the anime doesn't mean the shipping was not present.

>>157108697
at least people were discussing things and were somewhat polite, these days it's just trolls and assholes

>>157108689
I'm getting tired of meme endings with nothing happening just because authors are bitter lonely adults. It's a waste of time imo. Just like haganai.

>>157108745
Yeah, because it should have ended some time in late winter/early spring of 2016.

>>157108529
People call me lots of names.

>>157108794
couldn't have agreed with you more, i guarantee you the threads would be a lot better today had it ended back then and people would have remembered the series fondly

>>157108867
just say yuipollfag and yes you should fuck off

>>157108539
A loner ending (as in actual loner ending and not tfwnogf ending) wouldn't be good, but to a lot of people it's more attractive than trying to shoehorn a club romance in at the last minute.

There's also some people that don't like the message that 8man needs to be reformed out of being antisocial, but at this point it's very obvious that 8man actually wants to be social.

>>157108794
>>157108884
You do know how publishers in japan work right? Everything goes to shit when it gets dragged for so long. Authors get greddy.

>>157108539
I think one of the main themes of the series is that "People don't change, but relationships always will."

I personally wouldn't want 8man to change. For him to lose his personality because of something like love or some shit, would be absurd.

I wouldn't mind an ambiguous loner end. Maybe hint he has a wife or gf but that's about it.

What's most important is that everything is finished. My only complaint would be if WW goes the generic way of solving rich heroine problems.

I think that's his main problem as he may have written himself into a corner. The generic "Save her from a fiance or tell her to speak up to her parents cause the heroine is in love" has been done way too many times.

>>157109022
yet you still conyinue to post, why is that?

>>157108907
this >>157109022 confirms that he is a fucking leaf

>>157109016
>I personally wouldn't want 8man to change
already happened

let me guess, you're a /who8maninhighschool/ fag?

File: tfw no webm.gif (248KB, 450x253px) Image search: [Google]

248KB, 450x253px

>>157108907
>muh yuipollfag boogeyman
I will never find that not funny

>>157109022
You're ruining the thread right now, desu. Making posts about how you contribute to a thread is not really contributing to the thread.

t. hypocrite

>>157109121
yeah, you should fuck off. you have contributed nothing positive and i think everyone caught onto your shtick and they're tired of you. go pollute the saekano threads

>>157109132
Yup, this. I will never understand why people label things they don't agree with and associate it to one person.

>>157109016
I think that the author has been exposed. The childhood friend plot has been used to death and him using it to add drama near the end proves that. The story has been drag for so long already, I think he has no idea what he's doing. The "publisher pressure" is just an excuse. His fault for putting so many girls and taking a romantic heavy path in the last realeses.

>>157109218
literally what the fuck are you talking about

>>157109218
But there are only 2 girls. 8man just says yeah to one and tells the other sorry and the romance part is done.

There is some weird shit going on.

>>157109022
>>157109121
You should probably grow a thicker skin or learn not to take shitposters seriously, for your own good. Yuipollfagfag is probably one of the most autistic posters on /a/.

Whats if he ends up with no one?

>>157109374
I bet Yuipollfagfag is also the guy who amends fag to everything.

>>157109218
>His fault for putting so many girls
Yahari is based off and subverts a lot of the tropes/archetypes in highschool harem romcoms. Just like how Yukino is the beautiful, smart but somehow alone archetype with a backstory written in to explain how she became that, as with Yui as the Genki girl that expands on how that becomes problematic for her -- 8man is the dense harem protag with a reason for why he's so dense. Removing part of the structure for that -- ie, the harem -- disrupts the story WW is trying to tell.

The harem needs to be in there: it's not really given much focus and is more often used to shine light on the Yui-8man-Yukino love triangle. Calling them a distraction is missing the point of why they're there in the first place.

I actually enjoyed 8man's edgy rants from season 1, they were bullshit but also hilarious. Then they turned off nearly all the comedy of it from season 2 making it all super serious business.

>>157109480
>The harem needs to be in there: it's not really given much focus and is more often used to shine light on the Yui-8man-Yukino love triangle. Calling them a distraction is missing the point of why they're there in the first place.
but the harem parts are the things that are tearing the story and the fandom apart, or already have, the damage has already been done

>>157109410
Well that's every fag in these threads so I won't jump to conclusions there, but he does seem to love inventing boogeymen. Yuipollfag is apparently special though, someone apparently triggered this guy so hard that he's been crying wolf about them in oregairu threads for more than a year.

>>157109480
And what is he trying to tell then? Because at this point it seems that nothing will happen in the end. I think you are just trying to justify inconsistencies.

>>157109132
>>157109192
>>157109374
>>157109410
Yuipollfag.

Here's your (You).

>>157109608
he's trying to cover his own tracks, by now it should be obvious the guy exists, he always posts in the exact way. he just wants people to take pity on him, but then the nex tthread he'll be back doing the same shit again. i wish there was a way to get rid of him

>>157109566
Yeah but a work is separate from its fans. The second it isn't the second it becomes bad.

>>157109597
apparently hachiman's happy harem hour based on the shit we got in the past 2 years

>>157109480
It's not a harem if it's only 2 girls

>>157109716
i sincerely doubt another and the vn were things watari wanted to do. that'shit solely exists to cater to the harem people that don't actually care about the story he wrote. that's why i'm unhappy that he did it, because it only attracts more people that don't care, yet clutter these threads with their shitflinging

>>157109732
We are getting memed and in the meantime some "fans" treat this like is some serious dramatic novel.

>>157109374
There's worse. Much, much worse.

>>157109799
It also drives off or discourages the people that do care. I know it's cool to say: "the fandom doesn;t influence the work", but I've had discussion with people that said that the forums being awful ruined the experience for them for season 2, because a big part of the enjoyment they had while watching the first season was discussing things. So, yes, the quality of the threads and the fandom does add to the overall experience of the enjoyment of a series.

>>157109777
>only 2
Stop being delusional

>>157109566
I'll give you the fandom -- the shipping wars in thread are cancerous -- but how exactly is it tearing apart the story? It comes down to Yui vs Yukino in the end, none of the girls are there just because they're cute (Rui & Sensei reflects on Yukino, Ebina reflects on Hiki etc) & it ties into the central structure.

They could be cut without much of the plot being lost, I'll grant you, but not without losing a chunk of the theme -- and their dispensability is by design. They're not meant to be central for the exact reasons you're all complaining about: having them there, but not contributing much, provides more than not having them there at all.

>>157109597
Yahari has multiple themes, but the part that they tie into is a commentary on harem romcoms. It's the basis for the story, and a helluva lot more prelevant in the earlier parts before all of the characters got fleshed out.

>Because at this point it seems that nothing will happen in the end
I don't know what's going to happen at the end, and you don't really either. Complaining about it now is rather premature.

>trying to justify inconsistencies
What inconsistencies am I trying to justify? I'm mainly trying to clarify why there's a harem and how that adds more than it detracts from the story. I can't see how that's being inconsistent.

>>157109480
This is a story that should have never devolved into a harem. On the one hand Watari is trying to tell a serious story and on the other hand you have tripe shit like:

>sensei is a cake, someone marry her!
>totsuka is girl, no he's a boy!
>all the girls like 8man for no reason all of a sudden!

That shit doesn't mesh together at all. I know people like throwing around all sorts of excuses, but nobody gives a fuck about the story or the characters in the first place (from what I can tell) and only use them to fuel their ships and shitposting.

This should have simply ended two years ago and the author shouldn't have added all these useless characters that are now apparently only used to shitpost how other characters suck, because their favourite waifu has no drama around her.

>>157109974
I only said that it seems the story will have an ending with nothing happening. I'm not confirming it and stating it as a fact. I hope I'm wrong, but the fact that this is being draged this long doesn't bring me much hope. The family/childhood friend drama looks out of place and being used only to drag the story.

>>157109974
i have no problem with characters being in the story, but why do they all have to female and why do they all have to be invested in the mc?

it's just generic harem wish fulfiment at this point

>hurr i only want something genuine
>no wait, i want to be a generic harem mc

fucking retarded, make up your mind already watari, what is this fucking series even about?

>>157110162
>sensei is a cake, someone marry her!
>totsuka is girl, no he's a boy!
There's nothing whatsoever wrong with this considering 8man doesn't have a developed romantic relationship for them to detract from. He's just being a hormonal teenager.

>all the girls like 8man for no reason all of a sudden!
This just isn't true. The girls like 8man for specific reasons generally stemming from him being a uniquely capable guy.

>>157110240
>hurr i only want something genuine
>no wait, i want to be a generic harem mc
Never mind, you're just being willfully ignorant. It cracks me up that someone can type this shit with a straight face, thinking they're creating serious discourse.

>>157110298
>all the girls like him because he is capable
Or because this is fiction? Seriously, stop being so delusional. The romantic side of this story is so forced...

>>157110400
>Or because this is fiction?
Nice non sequitur.

>>157110371
Just a sidenote, but you didn't reply to the same person twice. I only say this, because I didn't write the other post and I don't want you to associate me with him. With that said, the harem elements of this show do in fact bump heads with the more serious elements of the show and honestly kind of hurt the series as a whole, especially because Watari is trying to tell a serious story.

>>157110162
>all the girls like 8man for no reason all of a sudden!

You fucking idiot. Read the series again. The ONLY girls that like 8man are Yui and Yukino. YUI and YUKINO. Iroha flirts with him but she flirts with everyone. Just because there's a shitty VN where he fucks the cast doesn't mean that those characters want to fuck him in the main story. Read the series again you fucking moron. But then again you just wouldn't understand it and I am sad that this series, as pathetically simple to understand as it is, is truly 2deep4u

>>157110162
It's not devolved into a harem, though: it's present but not a central part of the plot.

People clearly do care about the characters: I couldn't have this sort of conversation with Renai Bouken/Rokudensahi/whatever else harem-shit is airing this season because there's not enough depth to the characters to support them. Trying to judge the interest in a show by the shitposts of its threads is counterproductive.

And yeah, trying to have your cake and eat it too is pretty much par for the course with this sort of nip stuff. At least it's better than Re: zero in that regard, and most of the flagrant stuff is confined to the side novels. I'm not arguing that Watari's done it perfectly, just that there's a point to why he's done it.

>>157110238
The childhood friend stuff is vital background for 8manm's character. You can't really understand how he became who he is without it being in there.

I trust WW will at least give us some form of a decent ending; though having to wait this long for it grates on me as much as you.

>>157110240
>Why is there a harem
>Here is why there is a harem
>but why is there a harem
You can argue that it doesn't work, or that it's shitty and he shouldn't have done it, but questioning why it exists is just circular at this point.

>>157110659
>trusting authors
Good luck with that. I've been memed with shit endings so many times already.

Let's get through the list of endings, shall we?
>Yui ending: impossible. Watari wouldn't make Another if he planned a Yui ending
>Yukino ending: most likely, as I said here >>157094997 >>157095837 I also explained there on why HayatoxYukino will never happen
>Loner ending: possible, but unlikely. What's better than upsetting Yukinofags and Yuifags with the either ending? A big fuck you to both of them.
Others are simply impossible and/or not worth mentioning, assuming the fact that volume 12 will be the final volume. Before anyone accuses me of being Yukinofag, I'm an Irohafag and couldn't care less about Yukino, I just see her ending as the most sensible outcome. Anyone who says the delay of vol12 is because Watari planned a controversial ending (aka non-MC ending) is just memeing, because again, assuming that volume 12 will be the final volume, then it'll be most likely very long and released along an anime adaption, possibly a movie/season (by season, I think he'll release a really long volume or back to back volumes) so if taken into consideration then the delays would make sense.

>>157095837
didnt Yukino and hayama ending together in another he should do the same end

>>157110977
If it ends with Yukino this would have ended long ago.

>>157110761
Tell me about it. Japs cannot nail the landing.

I still believe, tho.

>>157111058
>assuming that volume 12 will be the final volume, then it'll be most likely very long and released along an anime adaption, possibly a movie/season (by season, I think he'll release a really long volume or back to back volumes) so if taken into consideration then the delays would make sense
Writing an ending in series like Oregairu is time consuming, along with the fact that Watari is also working/worked on two other series. Did you even read my post?

Proof that forced romance in a non romantic story ruins everything. If handed right this would have never happened. Love triangles were a mistake.

>>157110977
>I'm an Irohafag and couldn't care less about Yukino
Sure you are

>>157111153
It is a romantic story though. The earlier volumes/season is just there to provide and context on what's about to happen

>>157111209
I'm guessing people liked me more when I'm shitposting instead of contributing to the discussion? Don't worry, I'll be shitting up the next thread.

>>157111148
It is time consuming indeed. Never denied that. But you can't deny this has been draged. I bet the author will pull out the "This is the ending I planned all along! XD" card, when it's clear he backed himself into a corner.

>>157110977
It seems to be heading towards a Yukino ending, though what that actually means is a bit more complex. A Yui ending is clearly one where she and 8man get together; on the other hand, I could see a Yukino ending where her and 8man don't get together, yet, or agree to move towards something approaching a relationship but not quite.

I'm hoping for a movie. Another season would be too long, and I don't think OVAs would work out either.

File: 1493173818361.jpg (20KB, 265x265px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 265x265px

>>157087766
>at least the announcement/cancellation tells us that some sort of progress is being made on vol 12
You're too optimistic. We're stuck in here forever. This shit isn't going to end.

>>157111441
Wouldn't mind a cheesy ending. The "we should wait to be together" ending would be a waste. IMO

>>157111393
Dude, it's yet to reach 2 years. I know, this is kinda long compared to the history of Oregairu LN releases, but not really long to the other forms of literature, especially an ending. If released alongside an anime, the 'long' wait is justified.
>>157111441
>I could see a Yukino ending where her and 8man don't get together
I agree, it could be a friendship/whatever, and it would make sense that the title is "my youth romantic comedy is wrong as i expected" cause there'll be no romance at all. Hmm, I kinda like this ending now, Watari pls be the ultimate troll

>>157111698
Pls no haganai meme bullshit

>>157111757
What happened with Haganai?

>>157111670
Yukino has too many freshly-revealed flaws to be resolved for one LN. Throw in the likely resistance of her family and that entering a relationship is essentially a completion of a character's arc, and I can't really see how it can end with them together and be satisfying in the space Watari's given himself.

A glut of novels might solve it, tho.

>>157111781
Nothing. It ends with absolutely nothing happening and the mc being a huge fag. Please don't remind me.

>>157108332
I see you are a man of taste as well.

>>157111901
Shit taste? I agree.

>>157111889
Is there any justification or does the ending make sense at all?
Hello Watari, if you're in this thread and taking notes on what would be the most controversial ending, pls make it this one

>>157090736
Miura best girl

>>157112114
>uglier Yukino with fake hair color, fake eyes and fake tits
>no personality outside of "HAYATO HAYATO HAYATO"
>best girl

Off yourself.

File: tJoI0dg.jpg (47KB, 960x960px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 960x960px

>>157089486

>>157112170
t. Chiyo

>>157087345
Ded novel
Just like Haruhi.

>>157112383
I'm being serious. She isn't a terrible character. That would imply she has any character to begin with. Take her out of the story and nothing would change.

>>157112444
>>157112444
I'm just making a Prison School reference. Though I agree with you, the only redeeming quality of her is the character design (especially in S2, but you can say that in every character in Oregairu) which is fucking top-tier

File: 1484849412726.png (19KB, 168x103px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 168x103px

>321 / 38 / 62
Some things really never change.

>>157112519
What are you implying?

File: 1428987894134.jpg (123KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

123KB, 1280x720px

>>157112518
She's very cute and very motherly. I wouldn't mind making her a mother.

>>157112599
We need more people like you in the world.

File: 1446789327895.jpg (178KB, 800x1292px) Image search: [Google]

178KB, 800x1292px

>>157112638
Yep. Pump her and dump her.

>>157112558
That the 38+1 of us are just faggots wallowing in our own shit. And he's right.

>>157112730
I think ips are last number. So it's slightly better than that.

>>157112730
62 is the number of posters though, 40 is the number of images posted

There are people still arguing that romance doesn't belong to oregairu, even after almost 3 years of discussion since volume 11? Some people are just hopelessly hard-headed

>>157112916
>even after almost 3 years of discussion since volume 11
It hasn't even been 2 full years.

I just want it to end

File: saLrIGc.jpg (181KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

181KB, 1920x1080px

It's been all this time since vol 11 and I still have yet to read a good theory as to what Yukino's request will be in vol 12.