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Why is everyone better than Aiz?
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CHA is her dump stat.
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>>157050733
Being better than a wall is not a achievement.
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>>157050733
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>>157050733
Why is Tiona objectively superior to Tione?
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>>157051284
One of the few asanagi doujins I actually enjoyed fapping to.
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>>157050733
>says that while posting worst characters
How to spot shitposter.
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>>157050733
Where the fuck do I even read the LN, I know the it was licensed but was it translated before it was taken down?
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Can I go straight into this one or is the previous show worth watching?
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>>157051284

why are little brown girls getting the BBC (Big Bull Cock)?
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>>157051284
The ending was completely unnecessary and lore-breaking, 7/10.
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>>157051717
It's the first season from a different point of view, you need to at least know what it's about before you start
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previous felt rushed as fuck
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>>157050733
Why was a spinoff starring the most boring character in the anime ever greenlit?
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>>157050733
>everyone
still level 5 - for now
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>>157052928
>lore breaking
>implying that monsters don't level up by "defeating" other monsters and "eating" them
>implying loss of levels is a big deal when its a lore fact that adventurers can have their entire falna sealed away
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>>157050733
DanMachi a shit.
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>>157051284
i both like and despise this.
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>Just start watching today
>A thread

WOWZA.
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>>157053474
I mean the part where they don't beget amazon children.
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>>157051284
I wonder if whatever idiot keeps posting this literally everything they're mentioned will ever get tired of it one day. I guess autism never takes a break though.
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>>157050733
>Why is everyone better than Aiz?
That's setting the bar pretty low.

The only good girl is the flat-chested amazon and her sister is sort-of okay too.
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Aiz is super bland. She has basically no personality besides GOTTA SWORD HARDER and just goes along with everything. The other girls at least have some personality.
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>>157051362
Same.
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>>157053356

Because author couldn't come up with anything better. She was cast as the love interest of the mc which was likeable.

When in reality they should have just made a spin-off about the cafe and the girls who work there.

Or made the spin-off more broadly branded as the Loki Familia.
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>>157054261
>No spinoff about the workers in the hostess of fertility

I mean that's were adventurers go to rest and eat. It would have worked better than what we got.
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The anime leaves out her inner thoughts. She could have been a battle autist with a cute side.
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>>157054346
>Various humourous stories from the dungeon
>Cute girls
>Expand the universe by giving other characters some time to get fans
>What's ryu up to when she's not a maid?
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>>157053993
Try reading few pages of Sword Oratoria manga. She's not really that stoic, but the anime shows her as a fucking autistic wall.
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>>157054446
This.
>tfw no cute loli Aiz that pops out when Bell's around
Fucking shit adaption.
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>>157050733
>the author loves their main love interest but literally nobody else does
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>>157055080
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>>157055080
what's goin on here, is that some personality shining through?
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>>157055105
Anime is a mistake
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>>157055231
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>>157051284
haahah those minatours
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>>157054346
*cough*
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>>157055568
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>>157050733
So I just binged Danmachi. Gaiden worth watching right now or should I wait? I want to see more adventures of Bell and Welf.
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>>157055613
It's getting better recently but it's not that great if you don't like autism and gay elves.
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>>157055598
I have to stop nom, Mama Mia is putting me to work.
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>>157050733
So why did we get this garbage instead of S2? Loki familia is just so shit. Sure it has top looking girls but all of them suck so much.
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>>157055682
>S2
There was nothing left to cover in the main story.
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>>157055755
Didn't the Anime stop at Volume 6 though? The 12th one comes out this October so I don't see why the material isn't there.
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Does Japan actually like Aiz or is the author just trying to force his main heroine that most people don't care about?
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>>157055809
Actually at volume 5.

Volume 6 is the Apollon arc, volume 7 the Ishtar arc, volume 8 a (unified) short story collection.
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flatbrown is best
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Find a flaw.
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>>157055809
>>157056612
>5 vols in 12 eps
jesus, how much did they rushed that shit??

Accel World was 24 ep for 5 vols
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>>157058801
dirty lesbian
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>>157058801
That's blood, not my semen.
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>>157058850
You're sick.

Lefiya is pure.
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>>157059134
It has been confirmed.
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>>157059299
>Lefiya
>can't seduce a man

Explain this.
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>>157059497
>a lesbian
>a dork
>pure
>blushes even at the slightest hint of lewdness
That he said it about the amazons surprises me. Don't even want to shit on them, but they tried to put Aiz in lewd clothes. They know.
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>>157050733
Your taste is shit.
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>>157055613
>should I wait?
Read the manga or the LN. The three first episodes have been a disaster but episode 04 was a step in the right direction. It's better to wait if you want more adventures for now.
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>>157059637
>That he said it about the amazons surprises me

It doesn't surprise me.

Even he knows brown girls are shit.
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>>157059757
Episode 3 was already good.
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>>157051284
WHAT DID THEY THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN
FUCK
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>>157059637
>but they tried to put Aiz in lewd clothes. They know.
Amazons don't care much about modesty and prefer revealing clothes, another thing the anime didn't explain. Tiona is asexual and Tione's attempts at seducing Finn are not really good.
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>>157059904
>Tiona is asexual
You just ruined my day.
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>>157059893
They're only pretending to be caught :^)
They can break free whenever they want :^)
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>>157060084
Well, she might fall for Bell or try to breed with him in the future when she'll be strong, but she is not very different from the typical idiot shonen protag.
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>>157051959
Because they are dumb
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>>157060084
more like, still too young.
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>Ryuu is undeniably best girl
>Gets no basically no focus at all
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>>157060084
He meant "Tione is a sexual" as in she is most definitely not a shit.
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>>157060274
No she wants bell
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Vanilla Aiz is the Megumi of her show. Out done by superior characters all around her that have more depth and development than 'muh crush on the MC.'

She isn't even the MC of her own spinoff.
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>>157060274
>that girl
>that arm holding
>that expression on his face
I wish shonen would just stop being bought, shit like this ought not be supported with money
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>>157060334
I ship it
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>>157050733
So would I be better off just reading the novel for this? Is the adaption for sword oratoria worse than danmachi's?
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>>157054893
>Manga
>Not the LN as a source
So Aiz defenders are just a bunch of plebeians, no surprise at all
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>>157054919

People say this about every bad LN adaptation though. Then it almost always turns out the LN isn't much better. People made the same arguments for SAO and even some of those generic harems.
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Anyone know if this is getting a digital release?
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>>157065219
and... another book to buy. Shit.
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>>157061753
>So would I be better off just reading the novel for this?
I say wait and see, episodes 1 to 3 have been easily the worst adaptations ever though. Not focusing on Aiz at all, focusing only Lefiya with the worst scenes to adapt.
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>>157065566
I like the simple art style of this as well, but I'm not importing it to Europe.
Honestly, considering shipping and customs I'd end up paying 50€ for it.
So I'm hoping for a digital release.
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Why didn't they just make a proper season 2? No one wanted this shit.
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>>157065962
I want it. More than Bell and Hestia. A lot more.
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>>157050733
The other characters have more personality than her. Don't think aiz is really that boring as /a/ claims.
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>>157066035
I want Lili
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>>157068880
Second season would start with the War Game.
She did play an important role in that but it's mostly all about Bell.
Well, at least she joins Hestia Familia officially.
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>>157060274
Flatter than Bell
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The brown twins and the elf are lesbians right?
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>>157071968
nah
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>>157071968
Tiona is as gay as Loki, but Lefiya is full gay.
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>>157074670
"it's just wrestling practice... for later"
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Muh
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>>157077841
They look as if they could show up in Yozakura Quartet.
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>>157051284
>no shota tag
Sweet. Shota is cancer and that titty amazon deserves a real dick.
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This is my wife Lefiya.

Say something nice about her.
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>>157077841
>Bell and Lili

OTP
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>>157078682
Very cute ears.
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>>157078682
You have very clean feet
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>>157050733
I actually like Aiz. I think she and Bell are cute, something about an autist and a spineless weenie is amazingly endearing. Not a huge fan of the spin-off so far though, feels like it's trying to flesh out the Loki Familia too hard and by the time we revisit the main story everything here will have been irrelevant.
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True otp
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>>157053706
Oh yea...

Imagine an army of Amazons with the mentality of Minatours.
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>>157065219
>Alright everyone! Strike a pose!
>Bete...Bete what the fuck is that?
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>>157050733
Aiz is better in the manga adaptation, not sure about the LN thought. Fuck the anime adaption gutted a ton of her scenes.
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>>157080533
Oh boy, SpaceBattles.

Where you can enjoy any fanfiction you want, as long as its fucking Worm.
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>>157080938
Yes
Secondary otp
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>>157080938
Or Young Justice Self inserts. Lets be fair.
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>>157081707
She's mine.
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I keep forcing the "Aiz is a Jewish Princess" meme but it's not catching on
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>>157084100
Aiz Wallenstein is my wife.
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lewd
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>>157078682
That's a lie, Lefiya is a lesbian.
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>>157088411
What a great way to die. If I was him instead of grabbing her hands I'd be groping her breasts.
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>>157089833
I know.

I'm her wife.

I'm Aiz Wallenstein.
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>>157089974
>rping on /a/
>not just rping but rping as an autist

you can't make this shit up
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>>157090200
Aiz isn't autistic, though.
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>>157051284
Didn't do as much for me as I thought it would.

I tried to fap, but every page I went through made me think of even more reasons why the entire thing was completely retarded from start to finish.

At least the Kantai ones could all manage to make me cum.
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>>157080938
What the hell is worm?
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>>157090775
Nothing feels worse than a wasted fap.
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>>157090847
An angsty superhero story set in the US written by a Canadian who knows absolutely nothing about the US.

He also has a hateboner for any form of authority or law enforcement, and made his evil Kaiju monsters canonically invincible to anything less than universe-busters because he was pissy about them losing in Versus arguments.
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>>157090200
Check out the Raildex threads sometime.
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>>157091059
Oh god, do they got people rping Last Order?
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>>157091000

>and made his evil Kaiju monsters canonically invincible to anything less than universe-busters because he was pissy about them losing in Versus arguments.

Sounds like your average LN/VN writer, even more restrained actually.
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>>157091000
How do they beat those monsters then? Asspulls?
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>>157091140
No they RP my D.
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>>157091280
One gets killed by the brain-damaged multidimensional Sci-fi space whale that serves as the final antagonist to show off how deadly of a threat he is.

Then the superhero whose inferiority complex was subconsciously controlling them dies and they become good guys for no reason.

Apparently an unimportant tertiary character who only exists because the lesbian on the MC's team needed a love interest can one-shot them but never does because reasons.
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>>157091515
Multidimensional? Oh I see why SpaceBattles likes it
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>>157093853
Absolute perfection.
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I hope the shitty elf dies
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>>157094049
Someone else from Loki Familia will die.
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>>157051284
Im pretty much certain the anime staff read that one.
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>>157060699
>implying the vast majority of /a/ wouldn't react the exact same way
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>>157060274
Me on the right.
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>>157080938
>SpaceBattles

That's a name I was not expecting to hear ever again.
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>>157095067
Are you retarded?
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>>157094817
the General, after Tione levels up?
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>>157097360
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>>157051284
Great material with top tier artwork.
The ending sucks though.
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>>157098192
Not in the anime though.
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>>157094049
Why though
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>You will never live in a fantasy world
This soul sucking world is not for me.
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>>157097360
How many Pallum babies can Tione have, realistically?
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>>157101351
0 because she is an Amazon. Amazons only give birth to other Amazons.
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>>157081707
>Actually watched Ogairu because of that fic

man, never thought i would watch a highschool drama just for a fic about a grumpy one armed oldman.
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>>157103159

not if minotaurs are involved
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>>157104684
Silly anon, that's not canon.
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new ep today and the thread's already in hospice care

ouch
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>>157108013
>eyeful of full frontal nudity
>no 'kyaaa p-pervert!'
>not even trying to cover it

cant tell if modesty just doesn't occur to the amazons or they're taking the opportunity to tease him, maybe both
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>>157108013
We had some threads the past days and so far there is nothing new to talk about. Everyone is just waiting. I'm actually looking forward to the next episode
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>>157108013
>>157108122
>>157108198
Tiona a cute!
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>>157050733
>1 day ago
>150+ posts
Why is it so dead compared to the original Danmachi?
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>>157108415
No boob ribbon chan in every episode. Vanilla ice cream just can't make up for it.
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>>157108415
No meme girl.
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>>157051284
9.9/10, shame about the ending.
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Loki needs an escort tonight. Choose wisely.

It will be Bete, right?
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>the anime will only go up to vol 5 at best
>this is vol 6
Why this?
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>>157108570
Finn should be next. That could be fun.
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>>157108415
Because there was no episode yesterday.
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>>157108760
OVA
V
A

But we will get this.
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is it worth waiting for damedesuyo?
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>>157051284

Literally only good Asanagi doujin in recent years. And it still goes full retard in the end.
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>>157059904
>Tiona is asexual

Amazons sooner or later get the urge to ride a dick. She won't escape that.
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>>157108922
Yes, HS is even lower quality than usual for this show
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>>157108570
Is it really what it says?
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>>157108013

Shit art. Even mysterious light-kun is better than Barbie bodies with no sex organs.
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>>157109071

It got much better after the first episode.
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>>157109220
Ep4 was good enough. Ep 1-3 not so much
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>>157109068
Which is why I said >>157060219. Though the sisters have been said to be rather different from the others. If Tione was unable to keep her urges in check she would have probably raped Finn already.
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>>157109284
Are you talking about the content or the video quality?
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Dropped this in the third ep. Knowing what will happen kind of ruins the experience.
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>>157109189
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>>157111265
The artist for Oratoria and Danmachi are different. Oratoria's is much better.
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>>157099200
Well yeah.
Hermes Familia should happen, though.
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>>157112787
>>157112822
>The Lefiyafag is a yurishitter
Not surprised.
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I droped this on ep2 because of the shitty elf
Did it get any better or is it still yuri bait
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>>157113767
It got better starting from episode 4.
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>>157114011
No idea what you guys problem is, it was already better in episode 3.
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>>157051717

>Can I go straight into this one or is the previous show worth watching?

But that means you get rid of the harem elements skipping the first season.
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>>157114332
>get rid of the harem elements

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>157114152
Because there was again too much Lefiyashit and barely anything about Aiz. Action is not everything.
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>Spinoff after only 13 episodes.

At least give us season 2 before this show.
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Episode is up on HS.
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>>157113040
We're all yurifriends here, anon.
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>>157114586
There wasn't really that much Lefiya, the focus was on the plot developing. Lefiya and Aiz had some pretty normal interaction compared to the episodes 1 and 2.
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>>157065219
same artist as Index? Shit I didn't know :o I wanna buy now.
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This episode has a strong start.
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>>157115529
>choking Lefiya

I can fap to this.
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Where did the episode end? Before the fight against the floor boss?
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No idea if I didn't notice this earlier, but this episode has some good sounds.
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>>157115073
Yeah, Oratoria has the same one.
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Alright, who's masturbating?
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I want to lick tiona's girl-abs
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Albert looks way too much like Bell.
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Not much for me to do this time.
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is there a stich of lefiya being strangled?
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>>157117291
I didn't see anything to stitch there. The camera shakes a little, but at best it'll be 20 pixels higher than a normal screenshot.
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Her series made me realize how utterly boring she is as a character.
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God fucking dammit, this adaption fails at absolutely everything.
If you honestly liked DanMachi and are interested in its superior series, Oratoria.
Just go and read the LN or manga.
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Last one this week.
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And another from last week
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>finn is more powerful than aiz

what?
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>>157116585
You sick fuck.
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>>157051284
Needs a sequel.
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>>157117537
He's a higher level than her.
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>>157117401
Loki familia in general is utter shit. Hopefully sword oratoria flopping will give producers the hint that the audience wants Danmachi S2.
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>>157117537
So are Riveria and the Gareth.
Finn is the strongest fighter in Loki Familia.
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>>157117591
DanMachi was shit.

No one likes Bullshit or Hestia.
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>>157117591
They just gotta skip volume 7-8.
6 was okay.
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Vanilla a cute. A CUTE.
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>>157117901
chocolate is objective better you prancing la la la homo man.
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>>157117951
But do they ever dress up in cute clothes? I wish.
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>>157117537
Finn is level 6, Aiz is level 5. Gareth and Riveria are stronger too, as level 6s. She might be able to beat one of them at level 6 but I doubt it since she is relatively new compared to these three.
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>>157117544
Is this better?
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>>157060198
>They're only pretending to be caught :^)
>They can break free whenever they want :^)
are you talking about pic related or that Korwa's doujin? oh wait
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Cucked.
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>>157118121
>ntr
This is not okay.
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>>157118121
I swear there was something similar with Bell and Hestia in the first series.
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>>157060699
Stop being so bitter that nobody want to pander to your cheap ass anon.
It's pathetic.
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Why can't Frodo be this cool?
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>>157117696
Sales prove otherwise.
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>>157117591
They should animate Yasuda crossover manga.
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>>157118514
I can't believe someone as powerful as Finn ends up with Lili.
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>>157118639
He doesn't.
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>everyone said Sword Oratoria would be better than DanMachi
>it's actually worse
>much much worse
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>>157050733
>Waa, I have huge breasts, look how sexy and superior I am
>Uuuh, I have small breasts, I am such an unsexy inferior shit
These two girls turned out to be such a boring, typical pieces of shit, total disappointment.
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>>157118543
Not him but you are full of shit as well. Sword Oratoria is popular. And among the characters of Loki familia Aiz and Finn are especially popular.

If you don't like it just drop it instead of shitposting here.
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>>157118703
yurifags shilling a mediocre spin off is nothing new, the same happened with railgun.
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>>157118703
>>much much worse

t. Hestiafag
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>>157118075
Yes.
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>>157117537
I'm pretty sure aiz is famous for being the fastest growing fighter, something bell stole from her, hence why she obsessed over him. She's not the strongest
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Lefiya was so cute and cool the episode!

And by that I mean she did nothing yet again.
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>>157118514

Finn a cute.
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>>157119184
Did you miss the part where she massively damaged a giant monster?
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>Soon I won't be the only Finnfag
Feels good. Can't wait for volume 4.
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>>157119102
She is the fastest who reached level 2 before Bell, not the one with the fastest growth. She is known for being OP as well.
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>>157119428
Did you miss the part where the monster didn't die?
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>>157119598
>one is DFC
>other is elf dork

They're best because they'll end up with each other.
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>>157119499
Already like him more than the girls. Not even a shota-fag or anything, he's just a cool guy.
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>>157119621
If only. I'd buy every volume of the manga if that happened.
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>>157119628
He is literally the coolest adventurer of the whole franchise.
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>>157119736
Only because Ryuu is an ex-adventurer.
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>>157119628
Is Finn gay?
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>>157119823
This is actually the best elf in the franchise.
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>>157119847
Anyone who wants to fuck Lili can't be gay.
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>>157119915
Lili isn't even that cute, though.

She's literally too loli to be attractive, if that makes sense.
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>>157119886
Second best, I'll give you that.
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>>157119956
It doesn't. I think it's you who might be gay.
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>No pics of Loki's ass
You disappoint me, /a/.
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>>157119956
Adult Prums are legal shota and loli.
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>>157120019
>Loki
>ass

?
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>>157120019
It didn't give us any. Instead we got redhead tomboy tits.
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>>157119886
My nigga.
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>main character is Aiz
>all /a/ can do is talk about Elves

Explain this.
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>>157119499

You're definitely not the only Finnfag.
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>>157119886
I just hope they don't fuck up her laughing scene in the next episode.
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>>157120457
The main character isn't Aiz. That wasn't so hard.
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>>157120457
We also talk about Finn and the flatness of that one Amazon. But personally I want to nibble elf ears.
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>>157120457
It's fine, that means I get Aiz-san all to myself.
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>>157120083
>You
>Gay
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>>157118121
Haha /u/ BTFO
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>>157120587
Why would Lefiya want Aiz when she's already my (male) wife?
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>>157117591
>audience wants Danmachi S2

Danmachi anime sold like shit. Everybody lost interest after Hestia became a background character.
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>>157058808
Its easy when there's no actual content.
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Why did they adapt Lefiya delusional fantasies even here? They are not funny and ruin the mood.
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>>157121241

I didn't lose interest.
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>>157121241
>Hestia became a background character
Which is when DanMachi finally becomes tolerable.
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>>157118543

What sales?

http://dvdbd.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E3%83%80%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%81%AB%E5%87%BA%E4%BC%9A%E3%81%84%E3%82%92%E6%B1%82%E3%82%81%E3%82%8B%E3%81%AE%E3%81%AF%E9%96%93%E9%81%95%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%82%8B%E3%81%A0%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86%E3%81%8B

Danmachi averaged 5k. Mediocre as fuck.
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>>157118703

This adaptation is a disaster. They are changing everything.
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>>157118703
It's fucking Lefiya being a beta slut for Aiz every episode.

At least Danamchi had some development going on this shit is garbage, I like Finn though he seems pretty cool.
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>>157116292
What? This episode went all out with the usual shitty sound effects.
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>>157121377
This show will do 1k at best
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>>157118514
This entire thing pisses me off so much. This episode was supposed to be Finn's time to shine, but they dropped him fucking up the plant for more Elfy Sue wankery, and completely budget-moded the entire fight sequence.
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>>157121334
I agree. It felt totally off.
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>>157121241
The sales were never good, with Hestia or not. Hestiashitter.
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>>157121340
Don't lewd Bell, Bell is pure
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>>157121566
>Elfy Sue wankery
What? Riveria used a spell as bait and Lefiya used two. That was all.
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>>157121605

Danmachi exploded after first 2-3 episodes. It was literally everywhere. Pixiv drowned in Hestia.

Then people stopped caring because rest of the series was crap.
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>>157121747
>Fanart and memes
>Sales
Learn the difference.
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>>157121566
>and completely budget-moded the entire fight sequence

I was afraid of this shit since anime was announced.

Too many fights are large scale with a lot of stuff going on. It was obvious anime is going to change it because budget.
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>>157121811

Popularity = sales you retarded ape.
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>>157121676
Yes, and what was supposed to happen there was Riveria shooting an arrow with a rope up to the ceiling or something, so Finn could swing through and slice off all the tentacles at once. But they didn't do that. Because they have to push the mary sue elf harder. Because for whatever reason, they've decided she's the star of this show; not the familia as a whole, or at the very least Aiz.
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>>157118798
Breast envy is a staple on flat chested characters in anime. Little do they know, that being flat just make them even more best.
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>>157050733
The composition of that picture is all kind of wrong and ugly.
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>>157121882
Not when it's fucking boring and they go all out the way to show how she is inferior compared to her sexy sister.
Shit stereotypical characters, and she really didn't seem to be the kind that constantly thinks she looks like shit judging from DanMachi, but then this shit comes along and they're suddenly worst girls.
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>>157121830
Always listen to Best Boy.
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>>157121860
>Popularity = sales
You are retarded.
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>>157121863
Too bad she didn't finish it off.
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>>157121863
Oh I was wrong. Shot the arrow into it, torqued his way in a circle round. Then it runs and the amazons chase it down. With the way they did it in the anime, they really didn't have any excuse for it to run off.
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Watching this adaption.
You can simply feel just how much they didn't give and fuck and had zero motivation.
Honestly, it's super lazily made and not even a single episode was true to the source so far.
Getting the MC even wrong, and throwing her shitty fantasies inside instead of giving Aiz's monologues more time.
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>>157122050
Someone that didn't follow the sales threads.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-29/top-selling-light-novels-in-japan-by-volume-2015/.95916

the novel sales had a huge boost in 2015, but it died out after the anime ended.

Volume 10 sold some 77,000 copies in 2016.
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>>157077841
>volume 12
Man, I'd like to read this at some point but fuck if I have the money to spend on it. How is it that translated novels of all things have mostly escaped online distribution when you can watch most every anime?
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>>157122611
I am talking about anime sales, not LNs faggot. I know Danmachi is a fucking cashcow LN-wise. And in that department Oratoria's sales are pretty good as well.
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>>157122611
Here are the combined sales for the series in 2015:
1,220,217 copies of Danmachi and 336,883 for Sword Oratoria.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-29/top-selling-light-novels-in-japan-by-series-2015/.95914

And this is the list for 2016 (449,192 copies sold):

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-30/top-selling-light-novels-in-japan-by-series-2016/.109355
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>>157122611
>Hestiafag not knowing that Danmachi was super popular before the anime
>Use LN sales as reference when the topic is anime
>Apparently unaware that sales are always boosted when there is an anime adaptation
>Unaware that Hestia plays a supporting role in pretty much everyone volume and that it was the case in the most liked volumes.
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>>157051284
Holy fuck I just realized that I haven't fapped to this yet.
Time to fix this issue.
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>>157077841
Something about her hips seems a little off
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>>157122992
>>157123329
It wasn't that popular before the anime.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-03/top-selling-light-novels-in-japan-by-series-2014/.82853

Where is Danmachi? Oh, 221,158 sales in total, one sixth of the sales of the next year.
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>wake up
>see this
Wat do?
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>>157124619
kiss tionas cheek
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>>157124619
Realize I've entered heaven and hug Tiona.
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I'm not much of an elf man, but I really like Riveria. Too bad she has no fanart.
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Can anyone tell me what happened to Aiz in this scene?

Did the creature in the egg somehow attack her, or what?
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>>157124790
>>157124882

Patrician taste detected.
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who's fuckin pumped for next week
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>>157125875
Also lap pillow incoming...
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>>157125074
The creature reacted to her Spirit blood.
>>157124261
It was popular, but less popular obviously. It particularity stood out because it was the best seller from its publisher, but I doubt someone like you read LNs in the first place. All you are saying is that anime boosted its sales, which is , again, obvious.
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>>157121945
It's indeed pretty bad.
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Lefiya is a super scrub compared to Riviera. But it's useful to have her around for the decoy trick I guess. It would suck if the dungeon creatures constantly interrupted Riviera's castings.

That and she has every magic in the world, from healing to attack to anything else.
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>>157120535
like a mocking laugh or a sincere laugh or a nervous laugh or...what?
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>>157126028
>The creature reacted to her Spirit blood.
The strange thing is it somehow hurt Ais just by opening its eyes.
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I'd give her my seed if you know what I mean
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>>157126178
>vlcsnap
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Dumb lesbo Elf.
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>>157126075
Riveria can do concurrent casting. She is using that occasion to train Lefiya. It's not like she was in trouble herself.
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>>157115529
This episode is a breath of fresh air
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>>157126390
I meant later dungeons and so on.
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>>157118121
Pottery.
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Dumb Ais isn't used to player killers.

If it was just her, Lefiya, and the two Amazons, they would have been screwed.

So basically what Bell is doing is fucking super retarded, and he could get killed by hostile higher level humans at any point.
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>>157127096
She is used to attacks, but there are not many who can stand up to her. Loki Familia is big, they commonly travel in large groups. Bell doesn't have that leisure.
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>>157051284
Japan continues to disappoint
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>>157127096
But anon, female adventurers would just rape him and male adventurers would be too confused by their boners and give him time to escape.
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>>157127238
He should team up with smaller pleb Familia more often in my opinion.

That group they found the hot springs with was pretty alright.
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>>157125875
Looks metal, I'm in.
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>>157127317
>female adventurers would just rape him
Hestia would be shocku if she found up Bell's penis muscle has increased in rank.
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>>157050733
Everyone > Aiz >>>>> shit >>>>> that stupid yuri elf

Watching her get NTR'd is my only solace.
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>>157127631
Netorare is evil.
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>>157127691
I see no problem with watching scum be punished with evil
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>>157058801
Clothes not sexy enough, specially considering the marvel of Danmachi wardrobe
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>>157127718
Lefiya has her elf girlfriend.
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>>157127804
Is her elf girlfriend still around? I stopped reading about half way through those developments.
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>>157126139
Sincere.
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Aren't gods in this series acting way too high and mighty considering that they suposedly lost their power when leaving from heaven and come to the mundane world?

Its something disturbed me from the beginning of the franchise. Basically they were in heaven bored of being revered and come down to the world...to be revered.

More than "coming humans" it feels more like they come to be revered even more directly. Its kind of surprising that there isn't any "Kill the gods" cult or something.
>>
Should I read the Danmachi manga first before the Oratoria manga?
Or Oratoria first?

Or switch between both after each chapter?
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Tell me, when did Lefiya suddenly start being cool?
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>>157127831
She is doing well.
>>157128043
They are still Gods. If a ningen attempts to kill them Uranus destroys them immediately and they go to hell.
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>>157128155
>hey are still Gods. If a ningen attempts to kill them Uranus destroys them immediately and they go to hell.

That's exactly my point. They come to the normal world but they didn't even risk or sacrifice anything, also, they are still assholes.
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>useless elf is so useless they load her with the baggage for the second half of the episode
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>>157128311
She can still cast spells even with the backpack.
>>
Lefiya as a character is just a big mistake for the series. She is someone who cannot contribute to action scenes, does not have an interesting personality, has a shallow personal dilemma, and simply slows down the pacing without bringing any entertainment value.

Honestly, I hoped they were setting her up to get killed and thought her moment may have come when she was getting strangled. It's unfortunate that it didn't.

Instead, she will linger around junking up the show and wasting screen time that could be better spent on world-building, mystery exploring, or delving into the more interesting characters.

At least Finn is best boy.
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>blushing ears
Yes, thank you, this is what I need.
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>>157128251
They can kill each other.
There are "evil" gods.
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>>157128342
It will slow her down though. Any movement will be slower. If they have to run she will be slower. If she is attacked she won't be able to react as quickly.

There's a reason why they have dedicated mules. Loading up a mage makes no sense.
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>>157128500
>If they have to run
Two level 6 and three level 5?
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>>157128453
>who cannot contribute to action scenes
Aside from the scenes where she actively did contribute, right?
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>>157128453
The next arc should follow Aiz exclusively.
With some scenes being about Lefiya, Bete, and Filvis following them on Loki's orders.

Well, once they arrive it becomes Lefiya character development again, though.

>>157128500
Lefiya is level 3.
And a level up means a fucking lot in this world.
You will see the difference between Aiz level 5 and 6 very soon.
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>>157128633
Second quote was supposed to go here: >>157128561
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>>157128500
>If she is attacked she won't be able to react as quickly.
Can it get any worse than it already is? She is screwed with or without backpack.
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>>157128668
So level 6, three level 5, and a level 3.

Who exactly will they be running away from in the lower dungeons?
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>>157128630
She actively makes that scene worse, since rather than a cool fight against plant monsters, it becomes about Lefiya's shallow personal dilemma.

She is a detracting blackhole of a character. Without her there, the scene could have been straight combat or allowed a competent elf to be the hero instead.

I'm sorry, I understand her function and their attempt to show growth, but almost all of the dialog in the entire series improves when you remove Lefiya's lines and direct responses to her. Then you get a cool team of adventurers doing productive things.

The gay yuri fantasy stuff is also retarded.
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>>157128709
Do you want the mage to be even more overpowered by not needing any protection?
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>>157127847
Cute. I love stoic women.
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>>157128842
I don't understand what you are getting at.

Maybe you are saying you prefer Fin or Riviera to have the backpack. Is that your advice?
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>>157128709
You're right. But then like I originally said, she is so useless they loaded her with the baggage.
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>>157128914
I adressed the point about her reaction you adressed yourself in that post, and that if she would be able to react quickly to any attack she would be even more overpowered than she already is. There needs to be some kind of balance here, at least some little.
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>>157129009
Still not useless because she can still be the spellcaster even with the backpack.
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>>157128787
Xenos, for example.
A huge group of monsters.
Anything can happen in the dungeon.

You're overestimating them simply because they're high level.
The only two people in DanMachi-verse that I know of who can actually do something alone.
One is being Ottar since he's basically invincible, but a huge mass of monsters will leave only him as the survivor.
The other one being Aiz, who can't use her magic at full force if people are nearby (they have to get quite far away) because she'll shred them to pieces.

At the very beginning, something like this actually happened, and they had to run away to leave Aiz alone, so she can fight.
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>>157128251

Plus they still have power, Hestia used her divine power that one time
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>>157129057
But we're talking about the packpack. Not some theoretical Lefiya.
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>>157129105
So you're saying creatures that can kill level 5 and level 6 characters pop up in the lower dungeons?
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>>157128836
>since rather than a cool fight against plant monsters
The fight was long enough. Of course you can want more fight scenes with other characters taking care of the plants, but they can only go so long until they become boring, especially since the other cast doesn't showcase that much of a big variety of attacks and strategies.
>it becomes about Lefiya's shallow personal dilemma
Yeah, all the other characters compared to her a lain-levels of psychological mysteries.
>the scene could have been straight combat
Honestly, I can understand that, for I like choreographed fights with weapons, bare hands etc. though a fight has to end and some big ass spell is a nice way to end such a fight.
>or allowed a competent elf to be the hero instead
She is already competent. I like Riveria, but there is now growth, no excitement seeing her steam rolling the monsters. At least Lefiya can give you something to root for, as she has not only to endure the pain of her injuries, but also overcome her own insecurities. If that all worked out is another matter, certainly no as good as in the manga. But your alternatives are questionable as best.
>Then you get a cool team of adventurers doing productive things
But they are already doing this. Lefiya isn't a burden anymore.
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>>157117537
There's a good reason why he's in charge and she isn't
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>>157129232
>>If she is attacked she won't be able to react as quickly.
Can it get any worse than it already is?
So, this post wasn't about reaction? Because there is the word "react" somewhere in this post.
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>>157129392
I still can't figure out what it is you want Anon. Do you want Lefiya with backback or without?

And why?
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>>157129298
Yes.
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Plant rave party
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>>157129491
Alright, I don't want to sound like some asshole or appear as someone that is just fishing for (You)'s. I specifically tried to attack the point about her reaction, whatever there else was about the backpack I didn't care. Thought that would be clear enough. My point was that criticising Lefiya for not being able to doge or defend against sudden attacks on close combat is a bit unfair, because you can't expect her to be good at everything and she is already really powerful at being a mage, if she gets over her own mental problems. Never wanted to engage in this entire backpack-argument, thought that by greentexting the reaction bit it would be clear.
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>>157129680
>Lefiya for not being able to doge or defend against sudden attacks on close combat
She's actually being criticizes for that by Riveria.
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>>157129680
>My point was that criticising Lefiya for not being able to doge or defend against sudden attacks on close combat is a bit unfair
The problem is I wasn't criticizing her. The other guy was.

Good job hitting the wrong guy.
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>>157129754
Riveria is an entirely different beast.
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>>157129757
>>If she is attacked she won't be able to react as quickly.
>Can it get any worse than it already is?
What about that wasn't you criticizing her?
>>
There's one thing bothering me about Lefiya.
At the very beginning of the anime, she was afraid of monsters, or rather, still afraid of them.
I used the word still because, shouldn't she have years of dungeon crawling experience already? She is level 3 after all.
The previous record holder was Aiz to go from level 1 to 2 in 1 year.

How did she even manage to becomes level 3?
Loki Familia is taking scrubs to expeditions to teach them shit, but, how come they didn't manage to make her overcome this even after years?

Or did she join them late? Which raises the same question again. Or did something happen which made her suddenly afraid?
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>>157130052
Just read the original first and then Oratoria, and then Episode Ryu (next chapter fucking when?).
Honestly, just read the LN in that order.
>>
>>157130031
It's not a criticism. It's just stating that she is in fact slow with or without the backpack.

If I had said something like
>OH MY GOD LEFIYA IS SO SLOW, I WISH SHE WAS FASTER
Then you would be right, but I wasn't.
>>
>>157051284
I fapped to this when it came out and I kept coming back to it, without knowing it had any connection with Danmachi. Was I in for a surprise when they suddenly showed up.
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>>157059757
Where do I read the LN?
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>>157130041
Spell casters with AoE kill them multiple times faster. And she is being guarded well by high level characters all along.
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>>157130138
>It's just stating that she is in fact slow
And that's my point, if she's so fucking fast to react, she wouldn't need Aiz. But that's not her role in this very game-like party.
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>>157130271
But I didn't make any request for her to be faster. So why are you objecting?
>>
I don't know what everyone is on about. Yes, the first two episodes don't add much, but the third and onward are quite good. Lefiya is the only thing I don't like about the series. All the other characters from Aiz to Tione and Tiona, Riveria and Finn are all pretty good.

Eina is still my favorite character, but I like the Loki familia and their goddess way better than Bell and his stupid Goddess and backstabbing furshit girl.
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>>157130308
>>Can it get any worse than it already is?
Anon, I'm getting increasingly drunk on this friday night. Is there anything for me to win in this argument or is this just some kind of big pile of confusion? I mean, what about
>>Can it get any worse than it already is?
Is not a criticism?
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>>157130466
>backstabbing furshit girl.
Those hips though.... they were made for breeding.
>>
>>157130242
While this works in RPGs I'm not sure it is the same in this world. It doesn't seem that exp alone is enough to level up, as Ais is getting close to maxing out level 5 without advancing to level 6 which seems to be unusual.
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>>157130532
Breeding with sub-humans is degenerate behavior and will not be tolerated.
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>>157130583
She can't be subhuman because she isn't human.
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>>157130466
Yeah, kinda feel like, while the first two episodes deserve the criticism, at this point anon is just following suit for the sake of it and the serious may become a shitposting target.
>>
>>157130520
It's not criticism. But it was necessary for me to argue that she was slow, so I could support my point that she isn't much worse even with the backpack on.
>>
>>157130041
It's possible the offensive spell casting was always there, and she developed an offensive skill that supported offensive casting - but in her early levels, leveled through healing her allies with her magic. The development of her skill likely pushed the guild to forcing her into situations where she had to use her offensive magic more often, which is likely where we started with the character.
>>
>>157130674
My guess is Lefiya had that special skill since the beginning (that allows her to cast everything).

I think she couldn't even be part of Loki's familia if she didn't have that skill.
She would be more shunned than even Bell.
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>>157130041
>How did she even manage to becomes level 3?
Adventurer school. She didn't ahve much experience on the field. She is being trained to become Riveria's successor since she has potential.
>>
>>157130787
So, let's say she had the potential for everything, but was cowardly, and mainly leveled by using healing/support magic? Because she was obviously too scared to fight when we met her. Prior to that point, it only could have been worse.
>>
>>157130903
Never mind this, since:
>>157130829
I'm assuming this is from the LNs and just wasn't mentioned in the anime? Or so briefly I missed it?
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>>157130903
I don't know. I still think it's much more feasible that she managed to kill a shit ton with a few lucky AoE spells while the Loki familia baby guarded her.
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>>157130829
>successor
so where is Green-san going?
>>
>157130903
>Sometime in the past, Lefiya was an honor student at the School, levelling up after three years at eleven years of age. After graduating, she joined the Loki Familia at Level 2, and leveled up a year later.
This is her story, she was a student and Loki familia recruited her because of her talent. Her copying ability is the main reason why. The Loki familia is pretty strong so even without putting yourself too much in danger, you can eventually level up while the stronger and bravest ones get most of the XP points.
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>>157131014
She is not goign anywhere, it' training for the new generation. Finn is mentoring Raul as his successor and there is Gareth who has Bete. It's true that it gives a death flag impression though.
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>>157131139
It's shown in the anime they go out of their way to give Lefiya a ton of kills with her AoE, while they guard her.
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>>157131222
How old is Riveria anyways?
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>>157131246
>power levelling the newbie

Sometimes it's less offensive when they straight out say it's a videogame world.
>>
>>157130532

but bell is a rabbit
so its okay.
>>
>>157130566

You have to do an act recognized by the Gods to level up.
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>>157131777
Around the same age as Eina's mother IIRC. Doesn't matter much anyway because Elves have a long lifespan and that the more you level up the closer you are to the Gods, you can have some sort of eternal youth.
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>>157130532
>keeps belt undone and pants open

I wonder what else she does to earn money
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>>157132033

Shes made too much money shes getting THICC and cant fit into her old clothes
When is Lili gonna pay denbts and get her status update?
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>>157130532
Lili is made for thigh fucking
>>
I had a buddy actually tell me the LNs were quite enjoyable while he was in Japan. I'm just going to drop this show in case I ever feel like reading the LNs in the future before I even become more jaded towards this series
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>>157124619
Submit
>>
how do we FIX aiz?

do not say "remove"
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>>157125875
I can see them replacing this scene with shitty lesbo elf fantasies about aiz instead.
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>>157125875
>inb4 they somehow make the scene about Lefiya instead
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>>157051284
Needs a sequel focused on Hestia and Lili
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>>157135589
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>>157135614
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I just came back, is there any Lefiya doujins already?
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>>157136763
Nope
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>>157136825
that's the first lewd I've seen from Lefiya. There really is a shortage on Lefiya fanarts, let alone doujins
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>>157126178
do you think she fucks male adventurer whenever she pleases
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>>157137112
She gets around
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>>157138704
I wonder if she gets paid for sex or forcefully fucks them when she pks
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>>157060274
god damn, that belly.
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>>157050733
Is the only reason people watch the spinoff for the waifu?
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>>157058801
She's literally retarded.
>>
These last two episodes have actually been quite good.
I'm starting to enjoy this show. Though I get why people keep mentioning that the LN is better since a lot of the important information seems missing or has been cut due to pacing issues.
>>
>>157134210

Captured by monsters or a rival god
Not removed
but gone
>>
>>157136825
Cute butt.
>>
>>157134210
Have Bell call her out on her autism and rebel against the citys bullshit.

Oh wait
>>
>>157128051
Finish the Oratoria manga first since it's shorter as of the moment. Then be highly disappointed in it's adaption. Then read the main manga.
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>>157134210
She needs her hero.
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>>157142957
Is Danmachi end game going to be Bell becoming Aiz's hero?
>Bell wants to be a hero
>Aiz needs a hero
>>
>entire battle takes 10 minutes
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>>157143082
No shit Sherlock.
>>
Why did Finn have so much trouble with the lady?
Aren't higher level adventurers supposed to be more powerful than lower level counterparts?
Outside of Ottar, he is one of the most powerful out there right?
But he stands back and watches mostly..
>>
>>157143411
The lady is not your average level 5/6 adventurer.
>>
>>157143411
>Why did Finn have so much trouble with the lady?
How did he have trouble? He was stronger and she fled for that reason.
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>>157143498
Her breaking his finger when he punched her, as well as snapping his spear I do believe isn't troubling?
>>
>>157143490
She has the strength of a very powerful level 5. Level 6s are too much for her.
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>>157143554
It's because her body is very hard. Being much stronger doesn't mean the weaker ones don't have some special attributes. It's not like she did this by hitting him herself.
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>>157136870
No one likes her
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>>157143605

But hes so small
what makes him so special?
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>>157143822
>what makes him so special?
Plenty of things, but he is a level 6.. Plus as a Prum physical strength is not his specialty.
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>>157143892

Hes not a mage though
Doesn't seem to be that good with the spear...
What did he do to become level six?
Put on a frilly dress and seduce a god?
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>>157143941
>Hes not a mage though
Are you sure??
>>
>>157143986

He hasn't done anything yet?
Amazons can at least handle minotaur cocks
Riveria btfo the catepillars

he's mainly sat back it seems and has hardly did anything noteworthy yet. I am just confused is all.
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>>157132033
>>157132632
The Lilica doujins are amazing because those thighs and hips truly deserves to be used.
>>
>>157143941
>Doesn't seem to be that good with the spear.
He is though. Finn is a legend and probably the smartest adventurer of the series. You can't expect to know everything about him like that, he was the first member of Loki familia too. Loki's familia increase in power starts with him. His status is on the wikia if you want to know more about his powers.
>>
>>157144104
Because he want's to level up Lefiya.
If you had an underling who can cast every magic spells in existence, you would want her leveled up as much as possible, right?
Consider how rare the various spells are and you realise how valuable her skill is.

>He hasn't done anything yet?
Are you sure?
Wasn't that Ice AoE spell his spell?
>>
>>157144166
Finn is not a mage, the ice spell was Riveria's . He is the leader and tends to supervise thigns like that on higher floor. The anime also shortened the battle, he did damage the monster significantly and Riveria was also supposed to play a higher role, beating the shit out of the tamer as well.
>>
>>157143941
Just wait for volume 4 adaptation. This is the most acclaimed volume of the whole franchise(main series included) for a reason. Top adventurers show why they are awesome and Finn especially.
>>
Goddamn, I can't believe Lili is such a race traitor whore.

She just wants to breed with Bell-kun instead of saving her own race.

What a dumb whore cunt.
>>
>>157144962
Calm down Hestia
>>
>>157136870
There's one with a single page of Lefiya giving Bell a handjob. She isn't even mentioned in the tags.
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Lilica has tight Parrum pussy. She is the sexy secretary you want to pound into her pussy when at work.

Hestia is the grumpy and unsatisfied wife at home.
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>>157146115
Name?
>>
Does this anime ever pick up?

I watched 10 minutes of that self-hating whiny elf bitch in episode 1 and dropped it mid-episode.
>>
>>157148433
Just grit your teeth through the first 2-3 episodes. The anime made a really, really bad job with these.
>>
>>157148429
https://exhentai.org/g/869990/3a28245cc3
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>>157148461
Will give it a shot I guess. Will I miss any major plot twists by skimming through all her scenes?
>>
>>157148547
She mans up in episode 3, so don't be too hard on her. You'll also get a bunch of scenes of Lefiya getting beaten up.
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>>157146292
Every single girl in DanMachi, including the spin-offs, is superior to Hestia.
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>>157149324
Those thigh and hips are perfect for sex.
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>amazons
>they're just brown womanlets
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>>157050733
So close to killing Lefiya. I guess this is getting better.
>>
>>157149479
I fail to see the problem.
>>
https://exhentai.org/g/1055898/e0f017ef58/
for lilifags
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>>157149479
Lilica is even smaller than Amazons, and basically a mobile fucktoy that can follow you into the dungeon for thrill sex.

Small is perfect for fucking.
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>>157149727
Liliruca is such a dumb name. I need to rape her for angering me.
>>
So amazons in Danmachi can mate with any male and they give birth to only female amazons, right? Are their children pure amazons or they can inherit some of father's race traits?
>>
>>157051284
I can only jerk off to the panels that focus on their feet. The rest of that doujin was disgusting gore shi.
>>
>>157108990
thanks for the review, mister feminist
>>
>boring vanilla aiz is now inwardly edgy aiz

I didn't realize she could get worse.
Why can't this series be about Loki uncovering Saturn's conspiracy instead of boring lesbians.
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When is this cunt stop going to ruin the show with her cringe?
>>
>>157051399

There were some fan translations but they were absolutely garbage and unreadable.
>>
>>157150928
Please stop calling my wife a cunt.
>>
>>157151102
Lefiya is a C U N T
I hope Bell-Sama cucks her in the final episode and she kills herself watching him deep-dick Ais
>>
>>157150493
Amazons giving birth to non-amazons is going full retard, though.

>>157051399
V1-4 and like maybe maybe two or three volumes of oratoria were translated before it was licensed. When it was licensed the tl took it down. Just find the yp epubs and dl those.
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>>157151159
Bell is actually fucking Liliruca, not Ais.

He is impregnating that little parum every time they hide inside her backpack tent.
>>
>>157152030
Bell is pure. PURE!
>>
>>157149966
Pure Amazons.
>>
>>157081707
A hunta must hunt
>>
>>157153572
If Bell is so pure, then why is Liliruca carrying so much of his semen in her womb?

It's practically dripping down her thighs every time they exit the dungeons.
>>
>>157143822
>Finn's status as of volume 8
>Basic stats
>Strength: E479
>Endurance: F388
>Dexterity: S999
>Agility: B784
>Magic: B713
>Development abilities
>Hunter: E
>Abnormal Resistance: E
>Magic Resistance: H
>Initiative: H
>Chain Attack: H
>Spearman: Based on Level
>Magics:
>Hell Finegas: Raises fighting ability at the cost of proper judgment
>Tir na Nog: Throwing magic. It adds the user's levels and all ability totals to their magic power during use. It can only be used once every 24 hours
>Skills:
>Pallum Spirit: Boosts the effects of magic and skills in the face of adversity
>Noble Brave: Provides high resistance against mental attacks
>Dia Fianna: When wielding a spear, the user is temporarily able to use the Development Ability Spearman. The effects are dependent on the user's level
>Command Howl:Expands transmission functions when the user's shouts go over a certain point. During a melee, the increase in expansion changes in proportion to the scale of the battle
>Ail mac Midna: Provides high resistance against drowsiness, increases the user's ability to stay awake, and increases endurance against the fire element.
>>
>>157155526
>look up the wiki
>Ais' stats as a level 5 are overall higher than Finn's as a level 6
>her stats as a level 6 fall off the fucking cliff
>Bell stomps them both at level 1

What the fuck is this series even doing
>>
>>157156791
When you reach a new level your previous stats are hidden and everything is at the lowest rank at the new level. Ais's stats are much lower than Finn's because she became level 6 recently and Bell's level 1 stats are so high because of Liaris Freese. It doesn't mean he is at their level.
>>
>>157157099
Then what's the point of raising your stats before leveling?
>>
>>157156791
That world has p2w mechanics
>>
>>157158114
They still matter, but they are hidden. That's all. An adventurer who had D in magic as lvl 1 and another one who had C in it as a lvl 1. If both level up and have the exact same stat in magic as level 2, the one who had C in magic will have the most magic power. That's why it's not recommended to level up hastily.
>>
>>157157099
>>157158114
So, theoretically, a level 2 with 500 across the board who had 800 across the board at level 1 would have 1300 across the board?
By this logic Bell's still pretty monstrous with 1000+ into level 3
He could wreck a good number of level 5's.
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>>157158405
Oh, so old stats stay what they were but still contribute to your current power.
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>>157158594
He couldn't since a level up is a huge deal.
And the difference of two levels is way too much.
>>
>>157158594
Well, I would assume level 2 stats have a higher weight than the level 1 stats. Sounds like an okay trade-off since leveling actually takes a pretty big feat.
>>
Is this any good compared to the first DanMachi? I thought it was pretty meh and feel reluctant about watching this one, even though I always enjoy vidya themes in anime.
>>
>>157158594
The value of points get higher and higher between levels and level up boost is huge. Bell is no match for a level 5, but he might have a chance against a low level lvl4. And magics + skills+ dvpt abilities can make things a lot more complicated. Especially magics.
>>
>>157158594
As the others said, two levels is too much.
A difference of one is possible.

War Game displays this perfectly well.
His opponent was level 3, and Bell was maxed level 2. He barely won. To be more precise, even then he needed help from Lili and Freyja.
The first help way okay since his enemy had help at the same time from someone else, but the necklace from Freyja basically won him the fight.
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>>157158698
>Well, I would assume level 2 stats have a higher weight than the level 1 stats

Wait, so...hypothetically, level 2 stats are worth 1.5x the value of level 1, so a level 2 who had 500 in every stat at level one, and is now a level 2 with equal allocation as his time of promotion would really be 1,250 overall, and not 1,000, due to the level 2 500's being worth 750's?
And if he followed that trend to level 6 with a 1.5x multiplier each time he would get 1125 added on during level 3, 1687.5 during 4, 2531.25 during 5, and if we assume he reached 500's for level 6, too, 3796.875 there.
Ac cumulatively this adventurer's stats would be 10390.625.
Which
begs
the
question
why don't they explain this shit
>>
>>157158833
Best thing to do would be to at least read the manga until the end of the Monstrophilia and start the anime from episode 4. The 3 first episodes were a disaster adaptation-wise. You will be disgusted for sure.
>>
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>>157158962
There are bits of explanations all over the volumes.
I dunno if someone ever bothered to write everything down.
Hermes in volume 6 mentions something along the lines that Bell had quite a bit of points left over.

As long as Bell's growth stays like this due to his still, he's going to be the strongest adventure in existence, stats wise at least. His skills and magic so far, are shit.
>>
>>157158833
It started promising, but for a while my hopes of a more veteran group of adventurers with grander displays of powers, contrasting to Bell's newbie development went out the window. There was FAR too much emphasis on Lefiya, who is a cringey abortion of a character.
It also relied too heavily on subtle nods to the original to the point that it felt dry and derivative – a lazy way so strike a chord with people who saw Season 1.
It seems to be getting back on-track with deeper expeditions, greater shows of their power contrasting to Bell's development, and the political side with Loki winding in, but the first few episodes are shite.
>>
>>157159257
Argonaut is cool and Firebolt can be pretty useful, but it's true that it pales compared to several magics.
>>
>>157159619
Well, Argonaut and Firebolt combo are extremely good.
But, as long as he's unable to charge it while in combat, it's not that great.
I'm guessing that he's going to learn it sooner or later.
>>
>>157160289
>But, as long as he's unable to charge it while in combat
He can do this now.
>>
>>157160562
Good to know.
Did the get anything defensive?

Like Filvis' magic?
>>
>>157051093
>CHA is her dump stat.
Then why is she so well liked by everyone?
>>
>>157160624
No, he has nothing new.
>>
Liliruca would be having 10 children by now if I had my way with her.
>>
I want a Lili onaho.
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>>157162804
She's a whore, she's so small she already is a living onahole and can follow after you.
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