Would pic related benefit from a superior remake, similar to HxH 2011?

It'd be interesting if they decided to make the new one a 1 to 1 manga adaptation
but YYH is still a great series that doesn't need a remake

>>156895456
While it's true than YYH's animation has its share of problems, it's still watchable and superior to the manga version, so I don't really care.

>>156895456
No its ok as is now

>>156895705
The animation is incredible. Atsushi Wakabayashi? Akiyuki Shinbou's episodes? Lurk more, newfag.

>>156896415
It only gets good at the end of the Dark Tournament. It's below mediocre before it.

A remake could also fix the horrible phasing of the Spirit Detective Saga.

>>156895456
No, they would tone it down.

The music and art direction is something that shouldn't be changed ever.

>>156895456
YYH is the perfect anime

HxH 2011 was shit compared to the 99 version and I doubt a YYH remake without Shinbo would be worth anything.

>80% fighting tournaments
>best anime ever
fuck off

>>156897242
>3 tournaments out of 7 arcs
>one is almost completely skipped
>80%

>>156897074
>No, they would tone it down.
Most likely. They would make everything brighter, and would have to censor all the blood, corpses and cigarettes.

>>156895456
not really, its animation is dated but at least its finished

>>156895456
If they could add more SoL-ish character development episodes instead of withholding all the relationship building until the last arc of the show, write out all of the asspulls from the Sensui fight onwards, and properly flesh out the Three Kings arc, then yeah it could work.

>>156897127
No, It falls apart at the end of Sensui arc and then end with a wimpier because because Togashi was getting bored and burned-out with it. The anime couldn't fix that.

>>156895456
>Would pic related benefit from a superior remake, similar to HxH 2011?
Not really. I can't see any room in improvement. The anime already made a lot of changes that made it better than the manga. And the English dub made it even better.

Fuck no, YYH is one of the rare cases of shonen where the anime is better than the manga in just about every category. If I remember correctly it even improves on some of the writing near the end when Togashi just stopped giving a fuck entirely.

I really don't see why people want this series to get remade, the BD remasters look amazing and it covered all the source material. Is it just because HxH got one?

>>156895456
>remaking a show made with glorious cel animation with shit awful digital animation

Blasphemous.

Fuck no. We'd have more shitters than HxH and YYH threads would be forever tainted by newkiddies who can't handle a 4:3 ratio. Plus, the animation is guaranteed to be shit by default. You want YYH to be plagued by today's bullshit?

>>156901502
YYH's animation is nothing special outside of the big fights like Hiei vs samurai guy or Yusuke vs doctor guy. There are plenty of skilled animators today that could make some great fight scenes.

What would probably be lost is the dark, edgy 90s tone and creepy horror atmosphere. You'd end up with a bright, glossy cookie-cutter shounen aesthetic which would take away much of what makes YYH unique.

>>156895456

I will never understand what people like about YYH beside the games.

Story was a mess and the character all horrible.

>>156902132
>the character all horrible
the main cast, Toguro, Genkai, Mukuro, Sensui, Fisherman are good

>>156901857
It had a great balance between the light and dark scenes.

The show was great as is.

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>>156895456
The YYH anime is practically nigh-perfect in terms of fidelity to the source material (with the exception of the early "ghost detective" chapters and some plot at the end of the manga). This isn't like HxH, where there are un-adapted arcs to be animated. The anime already properly adapted or even improved upon the manga, so there's nothing to justify a remake. The only thing missing from the 90s adaptation are the character interactions from the end of the manga but my assumption is that Togashi hadn't written that far at the time the anime concluded.

>>156896935
>It only gets good at the end of the Dark Tournament. It's below mediocre before it.
I don't know if I agree. The series looks equal to (or better) on-average than some other shows made during the period (cough Tekkaman Blade), which is impressive for a long-form series.
>A remake could also fix the horrible phasing of the Spirit Detective Saga.
The pacing was perfectly fine. If anything it was the manga that had terrible pacing, since it was bogged down by corny ghostcatching hijinks that the anime production staff wisely disposed of.

I'm not opposed to the idea of a remake but not only is there not much justification for one, but it's been so long I can't pos

>>156902132
It's just a reasonably well-made series with likable characters, good atmosphere and solid action. Yes, the story is little more than a thin pretense to lead the characters to their next battle (like every other shounen), but the arc-to-arc plots are entertaining. The characters are likable, well-characterized, and their personalities complement and play off of eachother nicely. Even the side characters (e.g. the girls, the Dark Tournament participants, the psychics in Chapter Black) are well-characterized. I can understand not liking the characters but "horrible" feels like an exaggeration.

The real problem is the ridiculous asspulls.

>>156902551
Sensui's "multiple personalities" was such a clusterfuck development though. It didn't add any kind of nuance to his character until the very end where it seemed like some part of him regretted his actions, but even then that could've been accomplished without him having to revert to that edgy deep-voiced murderer persona.

I did like the idea of him as someone whose empathy for other creatures made him turn his back on humanity, but his development was just so nonsensical it pissed me off.

>>156902766
I agree, it felt too much

>>156902766
The gun arm was so stupid it actually made me laugh a little

Currently reading YYH with a friend. On the first chapter. Hopefully togashi doesn't disappoint.

>>156902933
Holy fuck that was awful. And the aura bullshit, why the fuck is holy power a thing and where the hell did it come from?

Come to think of it, the series skirted a REALLY fine line in the end with getting you to sympathize with the demons. Like, we're supposed to believe that it was unjust and inhumane to kill all these demons (considering that's what made Sensui go crazy) yet as soon as someone opens a portal to the demon world, it's an invitation for them all to come and destroy humanity. Seems like it would be pretty fucking justified to kill demons who SUBSIST on devouring humans.

And do ALL demons need to eat people to survive, or just the three kings and their subjects? Would that mean Kurama and Hiei had to eat people to survive? Because that would be pretty fucked up and change perspective of those two.

>>156903274
I think at least not all of them need to eat humans
I mean, can you imagine Yukina of all people eating some poor guy?

You guys are critical of the manga / anime because you love it right... right?

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>>156903503
Yeah, despite its baffling logic after the Dark Tournament saga it's still got my favorite cast of any shounen anime. And when it all comes together in the Team Toguro fight, it's really fucking good.

One just can't help but wonder what it could've been with more consistent writing and time for character development.

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https://youtu.be/tLBZaOENcMU?t=1m35s

name a better shonen MC, go ahead I'll wait

Wasn't Togashi bullied by editors during YYH?

>>156895456
Do you enjoy the endless bitching over old vs new anime adaptions like FMA and HxH discussion? Because that's all that's going to come out of it.

>>156895456
It'll never happen so long as HxH is still running. Were they to do a remake of YYH, no one would touch HxH ever again, because why settle for shit when you're being handed gold at the same time?

>>156904004
The HxH anime already ended

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The original anime is still amazing in its own right
Shows some age but its still really worth a watch
I don't think a remake is needed, I doubt they could even improve on it.

>>156901857
>What would probably be lost is the dark, edgy 90s tone and creepy horror atmosphere.
That's the point I'm making. I don't trust today's directors to adapt a 90's manga series.

>>156904004
Laughable, anon-kun

Outside the main cast which is debatable, there's not a single thing YYH does better than HxH. Not one.

Practically the only other thing is having a better anime adaptation.

>>156895456
The ost would instantly be a downgrade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pp4nkyI0Bg&list=PLpZa5_1LTfx6fNHqBIi0_3oMH7VUAqXKi

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>>156900655
>Fuck no, YYH is one of the rare cases of shonen where the anime is better than the manga in just about every category. If I remember correctly it even improves on some of the writing near the end when Togashi just stopped giving a fuck entirely.
This is very true. Even early on the anime characterizes Yusuke way better than the manga. Compare this part of the anime with pic related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3klj_jmde0

>>156906510
Not that anon, but I tried getting into HxH. I stopped in the middle of the Zoldyck Family Arc. I really didn't care for Gon, he just seemed to be another kid Goku, and the artwork was awful.

>>156907456
It gets good at Yorkshin city arc

>>156901857
>YYH's animation is nothing special outside of the big fights like Hiei vs samurai guy or Yusuke vs doctor guy.
Haha you watched SEW's video too? Now did you actually watch the anime?

>>156897242
>Not liking tournament arcs
Literally the highlight of any shonen

>>156907456
Gon was made to be simplistic at the beginning because Togashi wanted to develop the villains more. But he does get his development in very subtle cues.

>>156907812
>SEW's video

What? Those are two of the better looking fights in the series and look expressive as fuck. That particular move of Hiei's looks trippy as fuck during that arc. It's almost jarring how much they stick out from the rest of the series.

Did YOU actually watch the series, or did you just turn your brain off for most of it? Because then you'd see it's a long-running shounen like any other, it looks basic as fuck with just moving mouth flaps and still images sliding across the screen until some major fights happen. It's very much of its time.

>>156908033
>>156907705
I might jump into it again, but just the 2011 anime since the manga looks like ass. I recently played J-stars Victory VS, and Gon was incredibly fun to play and had neat powers

>>156895456
Are you serious? YYH is the greatest long running shounen adaptation of all time. The chances of a modern adaptation even being half as good are slim to none.

>>156908223
I'm the exact opposite.

2011 doesn't appeal to me at all.

>>156895456
The anime wasn't perfect but it was damn fucking good. I highly, highly doubt a modern adaptation would look anywhere as good/appropriate.

>>156903782
I fucking love Yusuke

>>156908570
It's amazing how the anime cast had such a good grasp of Yusuke's character.

Especially in the dub

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>>156908189
Just because a fight is heavily stylized doesn't mean it is better animated than other fights. Doctor wasn't even a major battle, no more so than the other Sensui Seven. Yusuke and Kuwabara vs the Toguro Brothers was well animated, Yusuke vs Sensui was, and so was Kurama vs Karasu.

>>156895500
>but YYH is still a great series that doesn't need a remake
/thread
>the decent animation
>the soundtracks
>the French dub
it really is very good as it is

>>156897127
Shounen*

>>156900226
Sensui was YYH's Aizen

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>>156908969
Now that I think of it, the Yukina Rescue arc was full of good animation.

>>156908969
Are we even disagreeing? I never said it didn't have other well-animated fights, just that those two are standouts. Those other fights look fluid at points but there's nothing there that just isn't done today. The stylization of the series is what would be lost in a re-adaptation.

>Doctor wasn't even a major battle, no more so than the other Sensui Seven

I didn't mean "major" storywise, just that the best animation is saved for when something actually happens. You could also argue that fight was a very significant moment in Yusuke's development because he has to reckon with killing an actual human being, and the gothic horror vibe appropriately reflects how fucked up that is. Whereas fights like the sniper guy barely matter in the scope of the story (even though the truck chase was kind of cool) what with him getting instantly beaten by Hiei.

The Kurama vs the surgeon fight was striking as well (that fucking cherry blossom nuke), although I'm not sure if it's the animation as much as the art direction.

>>156895456
only if they remake the last arc to not suck

>>156895456
only if they up that age rating.

and for YYH, I wouldn't be terribly hard to do.

>>156908910
Thanks to that link I've just watched a bunch of english dub videos. I'm a BRfag and always thought my country's dub was pretty good, but Yusuke's english VA truly is amazing.

Also after watching these clips from the show I'm 100% certain the old anime should be left as it is.

>>156903782
luffy pre timeskip of course

>>156909549
>You could also argue that fight was a very significant moment in Yusuke's development because he has to reckon with killing an actual human being
I wouldn't disagree with this argument if not for the fact that he's literally revived on the next page

>>156909744
yosuke is good, but kuwabara sounds like a retard

>>156903782
>Ranma
>Ikki from Air Gear
>Lina from Slayers
>Soul from Soul Eater
>Ed from FMA
>Onizuka from GTO
>Harima from School Rumble
>Luffy from OP
>Medaka from Medaka Box
>Oga from Beelzebub
>Taiga from Mx0
are all good Shonen MCs but still not as good as Yusuke

>>156903834
Yes, and that reason is pretty much how we currently have Hiatus x Hiatus

>>156909919
youske is a shitty gary stu

>>156909930
>implying togashi isn't just a lazy faggot

>>156909809
I know it ends in a stupid deus ex machina way, but that's how it feels as it happens.

Same bullshit happened with Toguro and Genkai, having to revive her completely defeats the point of having Yusuke grow past blaming himself or Kuwabara's feeling betrayed that Yusuke hid her from death from him. You had all these very serious dramatic moments completely swept under the rug because Togashi had to find some way to continue the manga with her.

>>156909819
Kuwabara takes some getting used to but when you get over it, he's fine.

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>>156909988
>Genkai dies
>comes back to life
>Kuwabara "dies"
>comes back to life
>Doctor dies
>comes back to life
>Sniper dies
>comes back to life
>Gamemaster dies
>comes back to life
>Yusuke dies again
>comes back to life

>>156909930
On one hand, Togashi being able to do whatever the hell he wants leads to the hiatuses which can drive you nuts.

On the other, Togashi is allowed such freedom while writing this series that keeps it consistently good all throughout.

It's a delicate balance.

>>156910120
It's a traditional battle shonen, I wouldn't give it too much flak for that.

>>156910335
except ant arc sucks ass just as bad as the last arc in yyh

>>156910404
I would, since people like to pretend like yyh is above other batalan anime

>>156910450
It is though.

>>156895456
Absolutely. I just wish they fixed Togashi's retarded inconsistencies and did the actual manga endind.

>>156910516
nope, it's just as shit

>>156910417
How original.

Ah well, thanks for telling me anyway anon-kun

>>156895456
at this point I'm too scared for that to happen, remakes nowadays are not even hit or miss, they're miss every fucking time, and the 90's tone as another anon pointed out made it have a perfect balance between the shounen and seinen barrier, with nowadays animation style it would be too bright for the tone it is set at.

>>156910673
>Fix togashi's retarded inconsistencies
>Do the manga ending
The manga had a huge plothole that the anime didn't have. At the end of the manga they explain that King Enma had low class demons brainwashed to attack the human world so that spirit world could look like protectors, which completely contradicts everything in the show up until that point

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>tfw Kurama was the only one who didn't end up with a waifu by the end

>>156910857
There can be both brainwashed demons and naturally evil ones. Also, except for Yomi, all antagonists were semi-human anyway, Toguro, Sensui

>>156910771
So where are these superior batalan anime I haven't heard of probably because nobody else has either.

>>156910945
He's a family man.

>>156910417
Not even close

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>>156895456
I dont think YYH needs a remake, but i'd like it to get one just to see all the people here posting about how good yyh's animation was, argue about a 1992 vs a 201x YYH anime adaptation.
Also
>2011
>superior
Pic related.

>>156910952
If that were the case, every single demon Yusuke faced would be naturally evil, which would be a huge coincidence, especially when the manga uses the brainwashing as an excuse to lift the barrier, whereas the anime basically just says that the new king would fuck up dissenters. It also contradicts the fact that 2/3 of the demon world kings wanted to eat humans, and that some demons naturally feed off of humans.

>all antagonists were semi-human anyway
>Hiei, Kurama, Goki
>Rando
>Suzaku, Seiryu, Byakko, Genbu
>The Toguro Gang, the Triad
>Team Rokuyukai, Dr. Ichigaki, Team Masho (barring Jin and Toya)

No, Togashi would get royalties no doubt. We need to starve him out and force him to write more HxH

>>156902766
Sensui's multiple personalities were fine imo, it works with him losing his mind, and how his other personalities aren't as strong, similarly to how Yusuke's emotions blocked off his true power. The only asspull that really got to me was Yusuke being a demon.

Anyone who thinks YYH is good didn't watch past the Dark Tournament

>>156911333
YYH's worldbuilding is really far from the best

>>156911848
But the chapter black arc was better than the dark tournament.

>>156911930
It was garbage and ruined everything good about YYH by introducing even more retarded ass pulls.

>>156911982
Outside of the resurrection, it was better than the Dark Tournament.

You people sound like nostalgiafags

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>>156911982
The battles were unique, the big bad was better, the plot was better, the territories were cool and halted the power creep, the atmosphere was darker, and there was more character development. The only thing strikingly bad was the mazoku bullshit. The dark tournament is barely better than the maze castle arc.

>>156911930
>>156911982
Chapter Black is great until the actual figth with Sensui. They hyped so much the 7 personalities thing and we didn't even see them all and none except Kazuya got any actual development or even much screentime, well Togashi almost died or wanted to die around that time so I can't really blame him, but you can tell the exact point when he stopped caring and just wanted to finish it and decided to ignore or rework everything that had happened in the arc until that point, like shafting Kaito and the other allied pyschics. Territories were a great concept and the whole mystety with a time limit thing was spooky and well executred. Really, the weak parts are just Togashi about to die from exhaustion and are still better than another generic tournament arc.

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>>156912166
>the territories were cool and halted the power creep
Are you serious?

It introduced Sacred Energy which was so overpowered it had to be outright forgotten until the very end of the show

>>156912223
Kuwabara didn't have Sacred Energy so I dunno why you showed his pic.

As for usage, it only seemed overpowered because it was far beyond the cast's level at the time. Outside of being able to bypass the barrier, any low S class demon could hand Sensui his ass.

>>156912169
>like shafting Kaito and the other allied pyschics
What? Kaito, seaman, and the guy with the weird hair went to the battle with Gamemaster, and Seaman stayed for the fight with Sensui. The guy with the shadow territory almost died in the fight with Doctor.

>>156912223
Sacred energy isn't even a territory power. Sensui doesn't even use territories.

>>156912368
>Kuwabara didn't have Sacred Energy so I dunno why you showed his pic.
Except he does.

>>156912169
I agree. Though it did annoy me that Kuwabara becomes totally irrelevant as soon as he gets kidnapped and pretty much drops out of the story entirely by the Three Kings arc.

Kurama vs Kaito was fun as shit, I loved how fresh it was to move from this monotonous stadium setting to this weird funhouse-style fight. I wish more fights took that format of just presenting some off-the-wall powers and having Yusuke and the gang win through something other than brute force power ups.

>>156912427
The territories were rendered useless with Sacred Energy.

>>156912368
>so I dunno why you showed his pic.
that picture is literally showing kuwabara using sacred energy

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>>156912521
The jigento isn't sacred energy

>>156912460
The fuck? Nobody who fought Sensui used territories anyways. Sensui was the only sacred energy user in the show. The part with Yusuke at the end only happens in the anime and was confirmed not to be sacred energy.

>>156912429
>>156912521
That's not Sacred Energy. That's his Jigen-tou.

Only similarity between the two is that they are both colored gold. Koenma would have certainly mentioned it if that was the case.

>>156912449
He had school to do. Can't blame him

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>>156906592
>subtitles are basically a tech demo for the text effects of the video editor

>>156895456
it would

>>156895456
It wouldn't look right if they modernized the artstyle or changed the soundtrack, and at that point, why even remake it at all? Its not like a DBZ that had tons of filler and lots of episodes with really rough visuals.

>>156912429
>>156912521
Is this a common thing people think?

>>156910417
If you think the chimera ant arc is bad then you should not be allowed to form opinions of your own because they're just incorrect.

>>156909937
Fucking kill yourself

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Does it really need one?

From what I recall, it's pretty faithful, and what changes it did make was fine. The art style matches the manga's art pretty closely and it already has a BD release.

I'd rather Gash, Shaman King, or even Dragon Ball get one.

>>156910829
Shonen and seinen are just demographics.

>>156902739
damm Yusuke is hot.

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>>156895456
>mfw they'd just turn botan and keiko into annoying modern moeblob material
>ruining perfectly good early 90s waifu material to fit industry standards
what we really need is a freemium game based on the system from the namco games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopPlp3baT0
maybe even a HxH one.

>>156909684
The anime salvaged that dumpster fire

>>156918816
>Gash Bell

It will never happen. After the lawsuit, Raiku is now considered poison and blacklisted. None of his past, current, or future works will ever be animated again. Sorry but thems the breaks in the manga/anime industry.

Really the only thing a remake could add is animating the hostage crisis from the end and even then thats not a

>>156909744
now I just remembered that Yusuke's VA in Brazil is the same guy that does Michael Kyle from My Wife and Kids

>>156919130
>muh moeblob meme
Fuck off.

>>156919314
How did Vector Ball get off the ground then? Did animal land happen before or after the lawsuit?

>>156919733
During I think. Also, I never said he can't get work in the manga industry.
Just don't expect them to animate his shit anymore or for a company go out of their way and try to promote his shit.

>>156919314
What lawsuit?

>You're the demon Yusuke
Easily the lamest part of the series

>>156919903
I'm not understanding. If he's blacklisted, why would he still be able to get work?

>>156920015
His publisher lost some of his color pages and he sued them over it

>>156920055
Not really, it was pretty obvious after the Toguro fight.

I should've grabbed this off of Nyaa for archive purposes, I feel like rewatching it now. Fuck.

>>156895456
>benefit from superior remake
>superior
Well that answers your fucking question, if it's gonna be better then it's gonna be beneficial.
I very much doubt a remake could be superior though, both the old anime and the manga have aged super well.

>>156909919
Medaka is by no means a good protagonist