Do you buy anime or manga, /a/?

I used to but i'm not spending neetbux on that shit anymore

>>156784366
You'll have to now that torrents are dying. Or you can buy a Crunchyroll subscription for only $11.95 / month!

Yes. I buy merchandise of my favorites.

>>156784501
Even if I could stand streaming my mongolian tapestries, I wouldn't support shitty, lazy, day-one translation hack jobs. You will never convince me to stop being mad about the death of fansubbing.

>>156784667
Fansubs were shit and full of drama anyways. It's much better to have a professional company put out fast and high quality translations for western enjoyment. I'm thankful that Crunchyroll removed that useless vestige of a past best left forgotten.

>>156784745
bait

>>156784745
You're deluding yourself if you think Crunchy subs are high quality.

Reminder that if you buy dubbed anime or translated manga you are the cancer killing the industry

Occasionally but only the American releases.

Almost never, because it's too goddamn expensive.The fucking things wouldn't be so high if they had any competency at overseas distribution or yield management. These motherfuckers love their price skimming bullshit.

>>156784763
>>156784831
Delusional. How can you think amateur works compare to professional work? What fansubbing group put out as high quality and consistent translations as quick as Crunchyroll does? Name some. You can't. Face it, Crunchyroll has changed anime for the better, and I'm happy to support them. If you buy a subscription to Crunchyroll, that money goes to support the industry. Much better than selfishly stealing the shows online.

Crunchyroll shills are here

I'm going to get the turn a gundam BD semi-soon.
Also if anyone ever releases the be invoked BD subbed I'll buy it.

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>>156785129
I can name more than one that isn't color blind.

I hear some Japanese BDs include English subtitles, is this true?

My two main hobbies are reading books and manga. Always bought my books as my whole family are bibliophiles and I like how they look on the shelves through the house, but pirated all my manga back in highschool. However, around my senior year, the only dedicated weeb store in my city nearly closed down for good due to high rent for where they were and not enough sales. I knew the owners and they were good people trying to live a dream and people like me (their target demographic) were simply not buying; bit of introspection on my part when that happened. After they were forced to move to another location I decided to start buying all my manga. Since then I've tried to live by the motto "if you like it, support it." Sometimes you get burned on shit first volumes, but $10-20 wasted every now and again is a price I'm willing pay for supporting my local store.
Plus, I like how manga looks on my shelves now as well.

I just started buying manga. but im afraid of starting buying a series only for it to become shit. I wouldn't be able to drop it because the collection would be incomplete and all the money wasted on tankobons would have been for nothing. Feelsbadman

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>>156784350
There's already a thread you people.

>>156785634
Where? Are you talking about the buyfag thread? isn't that shit only for figures?

>>156784667
>>156784831
Crunchy's subs only made it easier for fansubs to do their thing and result in (soft)subs being guanranteed for every airing show even the shit ones no one is willing to touch like Puzzles & Dragons X. I sure enjoy my 10 different encodes of R1 subs that used to be the sub industry back in the day. Editing a CR script at least guarantees timings are accurate or at the very least harder to fuck up as you're given the frametimes for free.

>>156785353
Fate is that VN that didn't get a proper translation to begin with. So why are you complaining about something you've never had the luxury of reading a professional translation from to begin with? You're literally comparing one bad line from the anime to the entirety of a poorly written VN

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I have a book shelf full of manga I buy from mandarake. I mostly look through the seinen catagory. I get a lot of action comics and soft core porn and some alternative stuff

I did in fact buy that Lain Blu-ray box. It was one of the only anime purchases I've ever made. It was worth it.

If I can't find it online, like in the case of Oooku's later volumes, I do buy it. If I can find it on the internet for free...then not. I maximize my $$ this way.

>>156786960
Moving goalposts, and you say that like that sort of mistake is a one-off thing for Crunchy subs. Even if it weren't, there's more that goes into translation than getting the one-to-one meaning right. There's nuances in the character's speech that can give hints to characterization, puns and word play that can be lost, and on top of all of that, a lot of the time it doesn't even feel good or natural to read, so it fails even in bringing it in line with a native English speaker's sensibilities.

I mean, I know this whole argument is bait after bait but if you say that sort of thing some idiot is going to come along and end up actually believing it.

>>156786911
I'd rather my translations not essentially be graded Japanese homework. All fansubs now are essentially built off the same flawed, rushed base translation, when the variety beforehand could give you insight into the nuances of a character or bit of dialogue solely based on how different groups translated the same line.

I should've just swallowed my pride and learned moonspeak when I had a chance, man.

>>156784891

>translated manga

Yea I'm not buying manga I can't read.

>>156787616
You don't have to read it for the dialogue
and Japanese only takes a year to learn

>>156787699

Takes a year to learn if you have time and discipline and motivation etc. I sure as heck don't (just saying).

>>156787575
>Moving goalposts
I'm not the guy you responded to though. In fact you're the one moving the goal posts in that very post.
>and you're saying it's a one-off thing
I wasn't saying that, I'm saying the entire VN of Fate is poorly written to begin with. Translation included but not specified.
>there's more to translation than
Do you think that stating any sort of common knowledge gives you the moral high ground?
>blah blah blah
I didn't ask you to present anything I'm claiming opposite of. Again you're the one bringing up the Fate VN of all things in the world.
>you're just baiting
When you've got no argument all you got to do is call it bait. If it were bait why even reply seriously? Either call it bait or reply seriously. Doing both doesn't feel genuine.

>all fansubs are based of the same flawed
No. All fansubs have proper timecodes. That was the only thing I said improved fansubs globally. And you were clearly not around back in the day as fansubs were pretty much CR on average. It's just that with CR being paid-professionals at work you expect them to be better at their job than the fansubbers that did so in their free-time were. There was NEVER a 'fansub'-scene back in the day. It was a handful of encoders encoding R1 subs poorly.

>>156784891
Obviously that's the issue and the people who just pirate and never contribute a cent to anything are paragons of virtue to be praised.

>>156784350
only anime I have ever purchased is gurren lagann
I would buy hyouka too, but it's fucking expensive

>>156787745
Piracy is okay if the only alternative is shit like Crunchyroll

Dubbed anime is garbage and is partly why anime is dying out as a niche culture in the west

>>156787709
>if you have time
You're on 4chan, one thing you certainly have is time.

>and discipline
I coasted through life, the most time I ever spent on something was studying for a single day before a few exams.

I do my reps, every day. It's seriously not difficult, it's about as taxing as remembering to brush your teeth.

>and motivation
All the shit you can't read and watch isn't motivating? Knowing the language opens up a whole new world of entertainment. I watch shit you haven't even heard of.

>>156787814
>You're on 4chan, one thing you certainly have is time.
I'm planning on having kids ASAP.

>I do my reps, every day. It's seriously not difficult, it's about as taxing as remembering to brush your teeth.
How much reps per day, can I ask?

>All the shit you can't read and watch isn't motivating? Knowing the language opens up a whole new world of entertainment. I watch shit you haven't even heard of.
The last person I talked to say "being motivated just by wanting to see more VN/manga is not good enough, you need to be motivated by the learning itself".

>>156787738
I didn't bring up the VN; that's a still from the ufotable Unlimited Blade Works series. It was literally everywhere on /a/ when that episode aired. You brought up the VN like it was somehow relevant to Crunchy being unable to tell the color red from white. Nasu being a hack regardless, and the quality of writing notwithstanding, that's a basic fucking mistake that no one should be making, let alone paid professionals, and it's demonstrative of the level of care that goes into these subs that are literally rushed out same day, that being next to nothing.

I'm not claiming any sort of moral high ground, I'm stating common sense. Crunchy subs are shit and it's encouraging a fanbase that doesn't care about the quality of the work they consume, at least from the viewpoint of translation. I won't speak for the encoding or timing or anything along those lines, but they fail at the baseline, bare minimum task of properly making Japanese into good English.

>>156787925
So you don't even know what the original translation was. I'm done.

>>156787575
>All fansubs now are essentially built off the same flawed, rushed base translation, when the variety beforehand could give you insight into the nuances of a character or bit of dialogue solely based on how different groups translated the same line.
Who in the fuck actually compared that shit?

Back in the day, 90% of people just downloaded whatever was fastest, unless it was from an absolutely terrible group and it'd only take an hour extra to wait for someone decent to do it.

You're never going to get the nuance of most lines in English. It just isn't physically possible to translate Japanese that well.


I don't really like CR, but you're crazy if you think there's some massive quality gap, the fans really didn't do any better.

>>156787890
>I'm planning on having kids ASAP.
Possibly the dumbest mistake you could make in your life, and I really hope you reconsider. The family unit in the 21st century is a joke, unless you're one of those white pride retards who considers it your "duty" to fight the muslim hordes by raising the birthrate 0.00000001%.

>How much reps per day, can I ask?
About 400? Takes me half an hour.

>The last person I talked to say "being motivated just by wanting to see more VN/manga is not good enough, you need to be motivated by the learning itself".
Some people are just retarded. People have learned languages for the sake of fucking bragging rights at the pub, doing it for manga or VNs is a far stronger motivation.

>>156787971
>Possibly the dumbest mistake you could make in your life, and I really hope you reconsider. The family unit in the 21st century is a joke, unless you're one of those white pride retards who considers it your "duty" to fight the muslim hordes by raising the birthrate 0.00000001%.

No, my whole life I just want to be a mom. Having a family means you will love and be loved for the rest of your life. Getting married in July and my fiance wants kids too so its not something reconsider. I plan on watching anime with my kids too.

>About 400? Takes me half an hour.
1/2 hour Japanese a day means I can read manga in a year? Hmmm. Cool if so.

>>156788068
Oh, you're a woman? Then sure, kids are your whole reason for existing.

>1/2 hour Japanese a day means I can read manga in a year?
It'll be more to start until you get into the swing of things, but it'd be pretty tough after the baby comes and you have to change diapers all day. Most people tend to put their lives on hold for a while when they're raising kids, and you'll have a lot less free time.

>>156787966
Ignoring the fact that I've read the VN, do you really have to have done that to see the error being made? I don't even understand the point you're trying to argue here.

>>156787971
I'd be in the 10% then. I'd rather wait a week or longer for solid subs. I disagree about translating Japanese; there's always a difference between a translation that's had careful thought and consideration put into it versus something that's thrown together as quickly as possible.

I mean, sure, if I were watching some fluffy SoL or a battle shonen or something then I probably wouldn't care much, but for anything more substantial than that it's worth taking the extra care into going over the translation.

>>156787971
Having and raising kids will be way more rewarding than learning hieroglyphics in order to read fiction on the level of japanese school children. Don't fight it.

>>156788228
I've read the VN I swear. No. You've read a shallow attempt at a translation of it instead of a professional one.

>>156784350
Yes. I prefer reading manga in physical form, but for anime, It doesn't really matter too much, I jut get it to support the creators of a show.

>>156788190
>Oh, you're a woman? Then sure, kids are your whole reason for existing.
So if you are a guy, then family is a "joke" but if you are a woman then its the reason for existence? Not a lot of middle ground, there.

>It'll be more to start until you get into the swing of things, but it'd be pretty tough after the baby comes and you have to change diapers all day. Most people tend to put their lives on hold for a while when they're raising kids, and you'll have a lot less free time.

That's what I figure. I don't mind reading translated stuff, as long as it makes sense in English.

>>156788228
>there's always a difference between a translation that's had careful thought and consideration put into it versus something that's thrown together as quickly as possible.
The difference is almost entirely in English flow. The same general content is usually conveyed, one just sounds better.

You could go on until you're blue in the face about how one team created a horse pun and the other one just used a TL note and Japanese in italics, but the reality is that it just doesn't matter.

The gulf is too wide. A decent translation is maybe a 7/10. A trash one is a 5/10. The difference between 5 and 7 is still lower than the difference between 7 and 10, which is the original text. You're complaining about sixes because you occasionally used to get 7s, and from where I'm standing they both look like the same dogshit with a different coat of paint.

>>156788323
it's not like your kind can aim for anything higher than understanding stories written for japanese elementary school children. Also watching your fetish fanfics together with your children? what a responsible hambeast you would be.

>>156784350
Nothing wrong if you support your favorite authors, but they better be a few so you don't become poor.
>>156784891
What industry?
You realize most fan transalations are NOT profitable in any way right? Also some official translations are quicker then the fan ones because the retards get a huge schedule they cannot maintain.
And nothing wrong with buying the BDs with the dubs since they got the Japanese audio and subs.
>>156784893
I wonder what kind of retard would buy the ones from their home country though (not counting USA).
>>156785428
Probably but do research about it.

>>156788359

Who is my kind? This is cyberbullying just so you know.

>>156788323
As a woman, you're heavily favoured in marriage and child rearing, and programmed to do nothing more than breed.

As a man, you wake up every morning with the knowledge that if your woman ever gets bored of you, she can divorce you, take everything you own for the next 18 years, and you'll never see your kids again.

>>156788275
Okay? Does that change the huge glaring oversight made by Crunchy in the screencap I posted? Or the fact that subs that are rushed out are inherently going to be worse quality than subs that have had time and consideration put into the translation? Why is this about the VN now?

>>156788357
I'll cede that hearing it in Japanese is the ideal, but shit, I'd rather strive for a seven than settle for a five. With that logic you may as well settle for a Duwang tier translation.

>>156788400
>who is my kind
Why are you asking questions we both already know the answer to?

>>156788487
You like Fate. Your kind is already beyond redemption

>>156788400
>This is cyberbullying just so you know.
Are you serious with this shit? Just go fucking kill yourself already.

just started buying manga, got all of punpun and prison school, thinking about buying all of vagabond too
too bad there is no JoJo part 5 or I would also get that

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>>156788517
Not okay. Shame on you.

>>156788499
>Why are you asking questions we both already know the answer to?
I don't know the answer. It sounds like you are making a dig at anime but like...you are on /a/. Yes I do love Japanese cartoon for kids. And comics for kids. And comics for adults. And no I don't read fanfics but I think lots of kids do enjoy fanfics, I know me and my sisters did.

>>156788412
I think I should be offended but this is just the classic, good old fashioned /a/ I grew up with before it got quarantined to /r9k/. Makes me feel nostalgic and warm.

I usually just buy what I've liked. I think the last manga I bought was the complete Lucifer & The Biscuit Hammer along with Parasyte since I'm pretty sure that's going out of print soon.

Been more focused on light novels lately though. Trying to catch up on Re:Zero, Monogatari, LOGH and Baccano.

>>156788611
Your kind just needs to fuck off.

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>>156788611
Not any of those anons but I remember you.

You're the "oldfag" femanon that believes bullshit that isn't even related on /a/.
Times change grandma, and 4chan in general has always been bullies, remember the raids and the stupid shit everyone used to do?
We may no longer do that anymore in some boards but it is still done and will never stop, this ain't some safe space website where saying "I'ma gurl" will make you respected, since the focus of this site is to stay anonymous and never say your gender in any situation unless it's literally tits or GTFO, /soc/, etc.

Stop thinking like this girl.
>>156788659
She has been here before, probably her b& got off.
She appears around this hour, have never seen her on daylight /a/.

>>156788659

>Your kind

Who?

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>>156788694

>4chan in general has always been bullies, remember the raids and the stupid shit everyone used to do?
Yeah, though I don't remember /a/ ever raiding (?), but I came around 2007 so. There was plenty of much harsher bullies, even the mods were bullies, and made me really cry. But with age comes wisdom and security and a thicker skin, and its because I am getting older (like 30) that I can say "Cyberbullying is bad" and not care when children like you complain about it.

Cyberbullying is bad, btw. It costs lives, look it up. Not appropriate. Not okay.

> this ain't some safe space website where saying "I'ma gurl" will make you respected,

Never said it was. Like, what does this have to do with anything that I wrote? I'll state whatever I want to state whenever I think its pertinent and I don't have to care about making people upset. To care about "durr will other randos on /a/ think", is to have a literal teenagers mentality. (Though tbqh, I don't think I ever really cared what randos on /a/ would think, I'm just a natural masochist).

Like, its an anonymous message board. Just BEE yourself, already.

Also I was never banned, at least not recently.

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>>156788866
>But with age comes wisdom and security and a thicker skin, and its because I am getting older (like 30) that I can say "Cyberbullying is bad" and not care when children like you complain about it.
>like 30
Fug :DDD

>Cyberbullying is bad, btw. It costs lives, look it up. Not appropriate. Not okay.
Yeah yeah I know that, but that's why we have other boards for that, however none of them are bullyproof.
I'm pretty sure you aren't here on daylight but some anons in certain boards help eachother giving advice, motivation, etc.
I'm one of those giving /adv/, but one shouldn't be nicey nicey frequently no one wants a huge hugbox (these shit spook me tho).

>To care about "durr will other randos on /a/ think", is to have a literal teenagers mentality.
ehh, it's just a 4chan etiquette, I wouldn't care about calling my waifu shit or related but using the gender card is kind of annoying to anybody, not just /r9k/ faggots that I hate too.
Anons should stay anons, not anons becoming Steve Smith or Sammantha Lincoln.

>Like, its an anonymous message board. Just BEE yourself, already.
>4chan just fuck shits up again
kek, this doesn't always apply let me tell ya
You cannot make an asshole b himself, or else he will more of an asshole (not saying all of 4chan are) however, you're right on stopping the hivemind mentality but also many things are completely agreeable, like everyone in /a/ liking TTGL for example, it's rare as fuck to see someone that actually hated it memes aside.

but tl;dr that's like your opinion nee-san.

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>>156789017

>Yeah yeah I know that, but that's why we have other boards for that, however none of them are bullyproof.

Naturally, I never said they were. With any degree of freedom of speech, there will be cyberbullies. Personally, I don't care for motivation or hugboxes. I do often feel nostalgic for the old 00s /a/ which was very harsh and misogynist and made me cry. Don't assume just because someone posts "Not okay, shame on you" on a low effort cyberbully post they now think that boards ought to be "bullyproof". I just hate low effort "kys" cyberbullies.

> it's just a 4chan etiquette,

Nah, its just a meme. Also lets not pretend that if I said "I want to be a dad" anyone would be offended. People aren't offended by revealing of personal details or of gender in general. They are offended by women, and this is just (1) beautiful /a/ tradition that predates /r9k/ (in fact the nightly misogyny threads were pushed out of /a/ to go on /r9k/ in the later 00s if not early 10s) (2) extremely goofy, like who cares, (3) something I find very enjoyable because I am a masochist.

I won't walk on eggshells about the same words I would use irl or use clunky gender neutral terms like "parent" and why should I?

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>>156784350

>CTRL + F Laserdisc
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>>156789660
>buying lasermemes

No. I'd like to buy Clannad though since it is my favorite anime, but I don't have a BluRay drive at the moment so I've been putting it off.