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WASHIZU MAHJONG IS OVER TWENTY FUCKING YEARS LADS T W E N

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WASHIZU MAHJONG IS OVER

TWENTY FUCKING YEARS LADS

T
W
E
N
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Y

Fuck your "Guts has been on the boat for so long waaah" small time baby bullshit.

THIS SINGLE GAME OF MAHJONG HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 19 FUCKING 97

TWENTY

YEARS

AND NOW I'M FREE
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>>156749175
FREEDOM
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> 20 years for one mahjong game

Am I missing something? How is that even possible?
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>>156749175
It was about time. Holy fucking shit.
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>>156749240
The chapters for this arc have been made throughout the past 20 years.
And it's finally over.
God bless America.
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>>156749258
Did he do like one chapter per year?
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>>156749269
One per month.
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>>156749280
240 chapters of the same match.
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>there are people that literally had babies, raised those babies, and those babies became adults that also had babies in the span of time that Akagi has been playing mahjong against Washizu
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>>156749280
So you're telling me a "single mahjong game" lasted 240 chapters"? Was it filler hell or something?
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Tenhou time ?
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>>156749302
The opposite, It was the climax of the series.
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>>156749300
Millions of people died in the meantime, never to find out how it ended
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This seems sticky worthy but I think Akagi is so fucking old that no one on /a/ even reads this shit anymore.
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So how did it end? He obviously won but wasn't Akagi basically fucked in the previous chapter or am I misremembering things?
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>>156749375
>This seems sticky worthy
This.

Berserk Boat has nothing on this shit.
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>>156749375
It's nearly as old as I am.
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>>156749175
You guys are so slow. We got the chapter about 5 days ago. Also spoilers from chapter 297

I bet most of you are just jumping on the 'Akagi is ending soon' bandwagon and didn't regularly keep up with the series.
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S2 when?
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MY MAN WASHIZU IS STILL ALIVE. FUCK YOU AKAGI.
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>>156749467
>and didn't regularly keep up with the series.
Well no, of course not. Very few people did. I regularly play mahjong, read mahjong related manga and the Akagi anime is one of my all time favourites but even I couldn't be bothered to commit to reading hundreds of chapters of a single game.
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>>156749333
>implying those same millions knew about this story
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>>156749175
I've never read this series. How the fuck does game of Mahjong last 20 years? How many chapters did this last? I'm assuming the author must have gone on some Togashi-tier hiatuses.
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>>156749175
>>156749302
Actually, it was six games of mahjong. But still... it was Akagi vs Washizu this entire fucking time.
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>>156749175
>I was 24 years old when it started, and now I'm 44!
>If you were old... well let's not go there
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>>156749553
>I'm assuming the author must have gone on some Togashi-tier hiatuses.
Akagi hasn't been on hiatus since 2001 or something, so no.
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This whole time. Have you people been improving on your mahjong?
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>>156749636
Good lord.
And I thought Prison School's pacing was terrible.
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>>156749716
FKMT is the master of pacing
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>>156749672
I got to a point when I can easily avoid getting 4th place in tenhou without really knowing what the fuck I'm doing.
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>>156749672
Yes.

I'm now at the level where I can give my cute lesbian schoolgirl girlfriend orgasms via mangan tsumos.
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>>156749763
It ain't rocket science.

Just go full betaori.
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Washizu and Akagi have been playing Mahjong longer than I've been alive, and it finally ends.
I really need to catch up, I stopped reading a year ago.
>>156749716
I might be alone on this, but I don't think it was paced terribly. Sure, 20 fucking years for one mahjong game is a lot, but its incredibly exhilarating, especially when they get to the last few turns.
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>>156749672
I still don't know how scoring works, but I can build a hand at least.
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>>156749553

Slow release schedule, focus on technical details, Fukumoto had other projects he worked on at the same time.

For the Japanese, they don't bat an eye at this kind of thing. It happens in many series. Ah My Goddess!, Guin Saga, Kochikame. Japan not only tolerates this, 君が望む永遠

But the Akagi anime in 2005 drummed up interest and really elevated Fukumoto's status. The attention for this was abnormal.
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>>156749785
Well, yeah, I meant while not going full betaori and keeping my hand, but I can also avoid getting ron'd when I have no safe tiles and discern when someone is in tenpai without riichi.
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>>156749768
>cute lesbian schoolgirl girlfriend orgasms via mangan tsumos.
I can barely refrain my dick thinking about those mangan tsumos
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So, any chance of Saki winning the zencoke within the next five years?
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>>156749553
As far as I can tell he would do things like make a metaphor about how this match is about Akagi battling out of hell, then actually spend dozens of chapters showing Akagi literally battling out of hell.

for 20 years
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>>156749903
>the next five years
Oh, let's not get way too far ahead of ourselves here.
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I actually feel kinda sad here. How Washizu's men scrambled over to his side and desperately tried to keep him alive out of genuine love and admiration for the man really parallels Akagi's last moments in Ten as well.

The two of them weren't really that different from each other in the end.

>>156749903
>next five years

Oh you poor fool.
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>>156749799
>>156749939
>Slow release schedule
So is it monthly or something? How many pages are each chapter?
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>>156749333
at least 40 million were americans

But more than 500 million were not Americans, so who cares?
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Who won?
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>>156749454
>20 years old

Wow so old. Faggot.
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>>156749903
>winning the zencoke

I haven't been following Saki since the finals started so what's this? Another arc?
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>>156750132
It was a draw
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>>156749785
If you go FULL betaori you can easily get your shit kicked in by tsumoho spam from everyone else, especially if everyone is going full betaori.
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>>156750172

Wait a minute, the Live Action series started off at Akagi's grave. I'm not implying that Washizu won, but still.
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>>156750281
Is the live action any good? Im usually allergic to those but since i havent watched one in years i could give it a chance.
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>>156750132
By sheer technicality, Akagi.

Though in the more metaphysical and idealogical sort of way, Akagi says that it was his loss.

>>156750281
Akagi is a fucking prequel to another manga. Which actually deals with Akagi's actual death.

By that fact alone, it's a foregone conclusion that Akagi lives through Washizu Mahjong
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>>156750361
OK, but not any better than the animated stuff. However, the Live Action went further, all the way to the 6th game with two hands left.
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>>156750364
I'm so pissed that Washizu lost
Washizu literally deserved to win
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>>156749302
Six matches, final boss of the series.
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I felt a bit like Akagi at the conclusion, saddened that this was likely the high point come and gone. That's why I love Fukumoto.
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>yfw you realize that all that contrived shit Akagi did towards the end of Ten was just him trying to recreate the circumstances of Washizu's death for himself.
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I've been trying to get into Akagi. I've read the first 20 or so chapters, I even watched a 3 hour long video on the rules of Riichi. And I still often have no idea what the fuck is going on.
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>>156751135
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html
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>>156749467
>I bet most of you are just jumping on the 'Akagi is ending soon' bandwagon and didn't regularly keep up with the series.

Fuck you, you didn't read this for twenty years either.
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How can a single game go for 20 years? Do you mean it took him 20 years to finish the fucking chapter? Or did he somehow stretch it out over 20 years?
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I have only been alive while this game was in progress up to this point
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>>156751248
No you're right, only 12 years. 12 years of patient waiting.
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>>156750994

Can't really be understated how mythic a figure Washizu in Akagi, even Hyoudou is small time compared to Washizu.

The 1965 deathmatch with Washizu would be like playing a game of Risk with Napoleon.
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>>156751248
You are right, I read all the avaiable chapters in 2012 or something and forgot about it pretty fast.
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>>156751185
Haven't played mahjong in ages but East 3 and I already got a baiman
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>>156749549
>boringball
If only you dumbass US fuckers didn't have such retarded culture.
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"Five minutes" has nothing on this shit.
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I can easily imagine a manga arc being dragged out for 20 years, but the question is - was it actually enjoyable?
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>>156749415
he lost.

but washizu died while trying to ron.
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Which manga was the one with Akagi's grave?
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>>156751690
>was it actually enjoyable?
If you're a fan of Fukumoto, yes.

If not? Who knows.
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>>156749467
i did. not every chapter, but probably 5-10 chapters at a time.
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How familar should I be with Mahjong before watching Akagi?
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>>156751819
0
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>>156751819
Very if you want to actually understand it, 0 if you just want to ride on the atmosphere/emotions.

Honestly start with Kaiji, Part 3 of the manga has a crash course of the most basic rules of Mahjong which will get you started. Obviously don't start Kaiji from Part 3 though.

Kaiji anime is a perfect adaptation of Parts 1 and 2 of the manga so you can watch the anime and go into the 3rd part of the manga directly.
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>>156751690
>was it actually enjoyable?
It was super awesome.
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>>156751819
I knew nothing when I watched it. I still knew nothing when I read the mahjong arc in Kaiji. I knew nothing when I watched Saki. I don't think it has ever affected my enjoyment of those stories at all, and I still don't feel the slightest inclination to learn about it, just how I don't know even one hand of poker.

I think it could even work against them if I started analyzing the games instead of enjoying the mood and excitement they create.
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>>156751819
I watched Akagi before knowing anything about mahjong because I liked Kaiji and I hoped they'd be similar. It didn't impair my enjoyment as they explain the basics to you in the show and even if you still don't get it, the reactions and tone is enough to make you understand the importance of what is being shown even if you don't get the nuances.

Akagi is one of my favourite anime because I understand more about mahjong each time I rewatch it and can better appreciate what is going on as a result.
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I tried to marathon re-read Akagi but I can't do it. Once it's the Washizu arc, 80 chapters is my limit.

It's more of a bog than The Bog.
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>>156751819
Watch it one time without knowledge. Watch it again with knowledge.
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>>156749175
Fuck fuck fuck! The intensity, the expression, the story, it was so damn good!

Goddammit I can't believe I almost didn't read this because of the art, really made the right choice.
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>>156749672
I don't know where to start learning
I guess I could try to learn the rules and practice with a friend on Tabletop Simulator or something

Now post more Akagi memes
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>>156751819
It's literally this meme >>156749672
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>>156751819
This >>156754989
Watch it first for the atmosphere and reactions. Learn the basics mahjong rules if you care enough. Then watch again to see how those excitement came to be.
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>>156753613
Kaiji Part 3 was almost as long, and I read it all in two days
It isn't that bad Anon
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please post more mahjong memes
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>>156749175
Fukumoto has been dedicated to keeping everyone on model that he's been drawing the exact same characters in almost the exact same way for the past 20 years, and somehow managed to keep it all exhilarating
Miura's a fucking hack, FKMT is a God amongst men
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>>156755609
The art style really grows on you after some time. I love an artist whose work you can immediately recognize.
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>>156755609
>>156756080
It's so weird to me how many people are averse to FKMTs artstyle, while when I first saw a pic of Kaiji, I watched it immediately just because of it's art.
Different strokes for different folks I guess but I personally think FKMT style is so perfect for what it needs to be (expressive as hell) and is really unique. And both Akagi/Kaiji animate it really well.
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What if we play Mahjong on a boat with a "bad back"?
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>>156756152
It's like Oda and One Piece, people will rag on about the art style, which I'll happily admit I thought was garbage at first. Same for Akagi and Kaiji. I thought it looked really fucking weird, yet unique as hell.

I watched the Akagi anime first, some random dude streamed one episode many a year ago and I had no fucking clue what was going on, but I loved every second of it.
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>>156756152
>my brothers won't watch any FKMT because of the artstyle

Goddamn.
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>>156756524
Convince them to watch at least 1 episode or maybe 2 of Kaiji. I had friends who didnt like the artstyle but they got hooked afterwards.
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SEASON 2 FUCKING WHEN?!
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>>156756056
Yea its incredible to draw for 20 years and still be this bad.
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is that refering to the akagi manga? did it at one point just focus on one mahjong match or is that like a complete series only focused on one game?
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>>156757147
Author dragged one game for 20 years thats something.
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>>156757221
at what chapter does it start? and isnt it that match that was at the end of the anime?
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>>156749175
Any new chapter? Got any link?
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>>156757308
The game starts at chapter 70 and ends at 296
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>>156757844
thanks, thats a long match 4 u
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>Liar Game started and ended during a mahjong game

Well ok

At least I can now cross Akagi from my list
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>>156758344
>At least I can now cross Akagi from my list

Still have 8 months till it ends anon.
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>Washizu Mahjong is over

Is this real? I don't feel it's real.
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Chi!
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>>156749175
>You lived enough to see the end of Washizu Mahjong when who knows how many died wanting to see its end,
I dont know what to say.
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>>156749672
yes, i think I'm fine
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people asking how this happened to take so long

well for starters chapters like

Yasuoka spend 2/3 chapters only to Draw 1 tile

Also Washizu hell vision and '' WILL HE DISCARD THE PEI'' went too long
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>there are people on this site younger than this game of mahjong
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>>156749290
Didn't Akagi go on break several times during the Washizu arc?
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>>156763117
I'm 19 myself so yeah. I'm a huge fan of FKMT and can't believe that Washizu has been going on for so long. When I read it in high school intially, I knew it was long just from reading it, but I had no idea its been 20 years.
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>>156763278
There was a break at some point during the run but outside of that, the releases were constant.
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>>156751135
>And I still often have no idea what the fuck is going on.
No one understands what Akagi is doing.
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>>156749799
Uh, what was so insane about Kochikame was that it ran weekly for forty years WITHOUT doing any long arcs...as Sorachi said, it's pretty impossible with a gag manga to always come up with a fresh idea so the fact that no arcs were more than two or three chapters out of 2000 chapters is pretty crazy
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>>156751135
i gotta admit i only like actually got what akagi was doing or trying to do in the beginning when i first reread
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>>156755924
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>>156765750
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>>156751135
I haven't read through Akagi yet, but for part 3 of Kaiji I read basic rules and downloaded a Mahjong game on my phone, it's really not that difficult to get the basics
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>>156763278
It went on break once when the magazine switched from monthly to twice a month, but then when it came back there were new chapters every issue for a bit to make up for it. It went back to monthly publication in every other issue after that, no breaks since.
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>>156751058
you think so? i haven't read washizu's spinoff series but he had somehow earned immense respect from the whitesuits, i think the ten gang liked and respected akagi for different reasons than the suits washizu


also i kinda like that akagi thought to himself that he'd die alone, but instead he did surrounded by friends, even if he was extra enough to basically invite them to the funeral and then pull all that
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>>156767331
>Downloaded a Mahjong game on my phone
Name?
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>>156752232
Dude believe me when I tell you that the atmosphere got x10 times better for me in watching Akagi and like Tetsuya, after learning more and more about mahjong.
It's as >>156749672 's picture implies.
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>>156767737
Mahjong and Friends

It unfortunately uses the Chinese (I think) names for some stuff, and English names for others, but it's Riichi rules. That plus a list of hands up on my laptop helped a lot.
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>>156767226
I see you Yukio
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>>156767737
I'm not them but, on android theres a BUNCH, just type in "japanese mahjong". I have ios, and the best free I could find is "Mahjong Dragon"
Its kind of cool and helps you by hilighting some tiles and stuff, but it's a lot less like playing against real people than most apps. Matches end kind of quickly.
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>im going to die as myself
;_;
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>>156749258
but the manga is japanese annon, bres niponuru
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>>156749672

post the 2 pin one
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>>156755743
>>156755924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDVyD3wEDk

How did the anime end? Never watched it.
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>>156768986
It stops in the middle of the match, narrates that Akagi eventually wins the legendary match.
Then you see old Akagi from Ten walking down a street, IIRC.
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Gin to kin anime when
https://youtu.be/_pjkRUG7PUY
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Why is it a draw?

That's gay. That shows that the author became too in love with the villain he invented.

Washizu should have in the end gotten wrecked by Akagi. All that he has in the end is ridiculous luck and decisive self belief.
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>>156769338
Washizu wins but dies before he can call ron on the last tile
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>>156750815
Fuck that, Akagi didn't lose a single round. Added to the fact Washizu had a huge huge resource advantage going in, yet still goes on about how it was the best match ever like it was fate or some shit..
No numbnuts, you tried to scum Akagi from the get go, and he outplayed you.
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>>156772081
>offers a poor guy a chance to win millions
>somehow its scumming because it favors the guy actually betting his money
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>>156769643
Spoilers for latest chapter are out,

>>156749467
Washizu actually survives, and realizes he's lost.
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>>156755924
How many of you have yet to play real life mahjong?
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>>156772269
You literally said it, it wasn't an even match. Washizu had a much bigger safety net. Any one but Akagi would have lost the war of attrition.
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>just draw all three dragon titles, three fucking times for each

how lucky do you have to be to pull this fucking shit off, seriously
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>>156772361
There isn't a safety net, washizu was the only one that could lose anything
It's a worthless life vs more money than most people will ever see in their lifetime
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>>156755924
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Will Saki Nationals even end?
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>>156772081
>outplayed
Him being physically unable to push the tiles over because they magically gained mass on him was horseshit
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>>156772517
It's one of the more common ones, because you can call tiles for Daisangen.
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>>156750815
Akagi basically raped Washizu until he broke down and teased him to play again and raped him again then teased him again that with all the advantages on Washizu's side. Akagi is better
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>>156773364
That's an unnecessarily lewd way of describing things.
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>>156773241
If I ever got that hand into tenpai, one of those cunty fucking bots would ron or tsumo a hand worth a 1000 points.

That shit happens every single time.
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>>156773364
>raped him again
But Washizu was winning.
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>>156750143
This match has been going for 20 years but the manga has obviously been running longer than that, retard.
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Anyone knows a website that has mahjong rules for beginners? I know that you have to complete a hand with 3 pairs and one 2 pair but I don't get all the combinations and the pon kan thing.
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>>156773495
Only after they both regained consciousness. Doesn't change the fact that he won all the other rounds and lost more blood. And Washizu won out of pure luck
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>>156773599
That's like saying Teru wins because of pure luck
He literally has luck as a power
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The manga itself talks about how rigged Washizu Mahjong is, several times, and how it's just a game designed so Washizu can hunt and slowly kill someone, Washizu is never in real danger, his opponent is, and they can't actually get that much money normally, since they're expected to want their blood back, and Washizu can even stop the game every 2 sessions.
The fact he's lost his initial 50 million dollars plus another 50million on top of that and 1900cc of blood just speaks how hard Akagi crushed him.
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>>156773574
This has documentation on the popular mahjong client Tenhou, and has links to various resources on how to get started with playing the game.

http://arcturus.su/tenhou/index.html
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>>156749175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLQSmt5gJy8
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>>156749300
Washizu said that each glass tube would amount to around 10 years of Akagi's life, thus we all lost 500ccs and we would do it again
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>>156749493
hoping for an announcement when the manga does end (February of next year), and/or a Ten anime.
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>>156749493
>26 more episodes of the same fucking match

No one actually wants to see this.
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>>156774958
>No one actually wants to see this.
Speak for yourself boyo.
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>>156774295
I think the ability to stop every 2 sessions was only for his match with Akagi. It was a condition they demanded because Akagi wanted them to 10x the bet.
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>>156774368
Appreciate it. Have a thankful (You).
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>>156774958
>26

there is room for even more that that
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>>156773574
https://mahjong.guide/a-beginners-guide-to-riichi-mahjong/
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>>156773241
>Riichi on a yakuman
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>>156775040
Yeah, Washizu didn't even suggest it, he just thought it was a good idea.
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>>156749672
What the fuck is this shit? No Akagi-nose in the bottom row?
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>>156775425
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>>156775523
Ohgi's face in the last panel looks hilarious.
What is he thinking?
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>>156750105
I wish someone would make a fanart of both young and old Akagi, as they're sitting both on his seat at the Washizu Mahjong (with the glove), and on his chair of the all-night vigil.
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>>156775792
>Why the fuck did I agree to give up an arm
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>>156769414
>can hear that stupid ass HMMMMMMMM akagi says
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>>156750132
Akagi won, technically speaking (due to Washizu being unable to continue playing and being regarded as dead), though he admits that Washizu would've won if he could continue playing. However the match was somewhat unbalanced (even if Akagi had a hidden stock of 500ccs of blood, he had to take all of Washizu's 500 million yen plus Washizu's own hidden stock of 100 million yen, and then 1900ccs of Washizu's blood, even if Washizu, being way older, has a lower limit for how much blood he can lose)
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>>156775425
Delicious free sex.
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>>156751058
either Akagi wanted to die in a deathmatch, or have a peaceful death or people close to him when he dies, or a combination of those. In any case, it's understandable that he would want to talk to them for one last time before he loses his conviction to die. I liked the "bothersome 3%" metaphor he used in Ten, as in "the other side of Akagi" that wants to live slowly growing until it takes him over.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LHpdlpLXr8

>>156751396
the latter.
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>>156776642
>using two of each opaque tile

What were they thinking?
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>>156751396
>Or did he somehow stretch it out over 20 years?
This, FKMT stretched it so the magazine Akagi is published on could survive.
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Akagi? Berserk? Yeah no.

Here's the true mvp of the waiting game.
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>>156751690
in case you don't want to read all of the manga chapters (but is familiar with mahjong to follow what the characters are doing and even try to solve problems yourself before the story shows you what happens), there's the 26 episodes anime (with the Washizu arc beginning on the 14th), and the 10 episodes live action (that's all about the Washizu arc, going further than the anime, but still, I'd recommend watching both);
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>>156751773
_____Ten
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Maybe we will get a S2 of the live action, it's not bad.
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>>156767526
>I think the ten gang liked and respected akagi for different reasons than the suits washizu

The dynamics of the relationship are different yes, but were the reasons really that different in the end?

The cast of Ten kept putting Akagi in a pedestal as a godlike being that has everything in life figured out. They remarked him as the best there ever was and that no one will surpass him. Similarly, Suzuki and the other suits view Washizu with the same reverence. And it's even more explicit with his own spinoffs.

Did the latest chapter ever show Washizu's own last thoughts though? In a lot of regards, Washizu and Akagi were both very selfish madmen, but that's precisely what drew people to them. However towards the end of his life, we ended up seeing a more human side to Akagi. We even see Akagi valuing friendship and family. You know damn well that he seriously considered taking up Ten's offer to be part of his family and be the wacky senile old grandpa, even for just a few seconds.

It makes you wonder if Washizu experienced similar things, where we saw a weaker and more human side to him. Or if he kept thinking as a "King" even towards the end. Where everyone is just a servant to him, albeit very loyal and willing ones.
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>>156751690
Fukumoto's pacing is torture to follow if you're keeping up with it, but when it's read all in one sitting it's great.
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>>156749375
My little brother was born a year after this started. He's going to college in a few months.

It's sticky worthy.
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>>156777025
/a/ doesn't care because there are no cute girls
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Is ZAWA the theme music for this thread?
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Would've Akagi won against Washizu in his peak?
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>>156777196
He didnt even win against an old washizu
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>>156777196
Hell no.

Akagi in his peak almost died to some low-tier gang. He only lived because Yasuoka bailed him out.

Washizu in his peak would've destroyed said low-tier gang, took all their possessions, sell their wives and daughters as whores, kill everyone and breakdanced over their graves while throwing yen bills into the air.
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>>156776642
>barely know how mahjong works
>can still feel the massive tension through the video
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You guys ready for the next 2-decade long arc?

last 20 or so chapters were about kazuya deciding to fold a round or not,fucking hell
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>>156777651
The cards are about to get flipped and it's being advertised as the climax of the One Poker arc, so it's almost over. Who knows how long the next ones will be, though.
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>>156777718
>>156777651
I really wonder where FKMT will go with Kaiji after this arc.
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>>156777651
Which is better? Kaiji or Akagi?
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>>156769338
he's also very smart, besides having top grades at school and quickly climbing ranks as a police officer, he has good and deep foresight, anticipating Japan's loss in WW2 (and other historical events in his own spin-off); speaking of his own spin-off, one wouldn't imagine, for example, that there's a way to win a game against 3 enemies, without actually having the most points at the end.
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>>156777795
Kaiji is a much more flawed and vulnerable character, so I think that's the more interesting of the two. But that's not to say Akagi isn't interesting, because it is.
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>>156749175
Who cares, Akagi is never exciting because Akagi always wins.
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>>156777795
Different protags and games.
Kaiji is about an underdog that can get shit done when he truly applies himself, whereas Akagi is about this invincible guy that is like some force of nature.

Akagi is strictly about mahjong, whereas Kaiji involves several types of games (which can make it more accessible for Westerners).
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>>156777196
Washizu in his peak literally went through gambles and death games that are more contrived and batshit insane than anything Akagi or Kaiji ever went through. All while manipulating and controlling an entire criminal empire.
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>>156778002
But Akagi lost. He loses twice in Ten too.
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>>156772531
although it would hurt Washizu to lose 20 million yen to a random player, this amount can't put pressure on Washizu, while the opponent has to worry about a lot of time (or the whole lifetime) of forced labor in Ohgi's restaurants, and later on, death by blood draining (which is even worse than the former, since losing blood lowers your playing performance during the match)
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>>156778181
Nice spoiler, now it's not even worth reading.
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I really like the contrast Akagi and Kaiji have going on with each other.
One is about this miracle worker, that no matter how horribly things look or go, always manages to win and fuck his opponents shit up
The other is about this naive guy, that no matter how good things look or go, always manages to fuck up and get ass fucked by the one he's gambling with
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>>156772983
it was painful to be alive

>>156774295
iirc he had a hidden stock of 100 million yen, which would be 20% of his 500 million yen (lower than Akagi's hidden stock of 500ccs of blood, 25% of his 2000ccs, but Washizu still had more resources when including his own blood); besides what >>156775040 said, the common opponents wouldn't be able to take money from Washizu because he's really good (smart and lucky), besides not playing under pressure.
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>>156777762
I honestly don't care as long as Kazuya doesn't get dead.
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>>156772983
Nothing "gains mass." Washizu lost strength.
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>>156779020
Maybe he'll land on the net.
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>>156779020
Chang and Mario will grab his feet and keep him from falling.
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>>156779163
He's going to hit the ground but survive due to Hyoudo family luck and end up wheelchair moe for the rest of his life.
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>>156777196
to add to what the other posters said, Akagi is also vulnerable to luck (Ten's closed wait winning against Akagi's 3-sided wait, Akagi not drawing effective tiles on that same match, thus missing chances to win, and failing the kan ura-dora comeback), and pride (however this was only an issue against Ten and Harada, afaik)
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>>156775425
Observe. This is how it's done:

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017012620gm-0029-0000-650ab2c5&tw=0&ts=3
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>>156779999
Jesus, how do you pull off that?
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>>156779999
How's life, Washizu?
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>>156779999
Get on my level Scrub.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2008121721gm-00c1-0000-fcadb0d7&tw=3&ts=5
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>>156780302
This is bullshit and you fucking know it.
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>>156780302
>Saki
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>>156749302
part of it was literally filler hell
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>>156780506
Welcome to lesbian mahjong.

Be sure to check yourself for pregnancy on your way out.
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>>156780302
>just one yakuman
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>20 years
>for a Mahjong game
did he go into a big hiatus or some shit like that?
also can I read Akagi If I don't know shit about Mahjong
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>>156780755
he didn't

if you wanna give it a shot without knowing shit about mahjong, i reccomend watching the bit thats animated first. if you like it enough (and you definitely might!) then learn at least a lil bit and read the manga.
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>>156781408
will do. thanks
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>>156769073
the live action series is pretty alright actually, although they did cut out the entire part with the serial killer so that kind of sucks. i really wanna see it animated too, but no luck.
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>>156769073
>>156782022
Gin to Kin lost me once Moriah left. It's kinda underwhelming.
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>>156780755
one dimensional writing
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>>156750361
the drama is surprisingly good. All well cast except maybe for Akagi.
Still, there's plenty of action after the anime/drama overlap end. It's almost a decent sequel
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>>156749672
I went from zero to Tokujou. Technically, I should be as good as the average jansou player.
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>>156755924
Howdy pardner.
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>>156782415
>only one dollar

Weak shit.
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>>156780302
You call that a kan?
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>>156782124
I think it's kind of realistic he left, but like??? What now, I don't get it. There's like +10~ish chapters left until it's fully scantlated and I just kind of... have no idea where it's going.
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>>156782470
It's not about the dollar, mate. That's the most powerful Yakuman, the all-american Civil War yakuman.

God bless.
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>>156755924
Free sex button.
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>>156749258

>>156749175
does that mean there is another game coming up next for 20 years?
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>>156782734
There is only an epilogue arc, the ending has been announced for February next year.
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>>156782734
Akagi is stated to be ending next Feburary so right now it's probably going to be wrap up.
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>>156776931
I don't really know what I was expecting, but Ten's proposal at the end really fucked me up dude, if I wasn't crying up until then, I really started. And how Akagi said he doesn't deserve a family and should reap what he had sown, but he's glad to know he had friends? Man, just fuck me up...
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>>156755883

I am an ignorant anon who hasn't watched saki.
What was the dora for this round?
But when I see this image I can't help but think that between the dora and the uradora there were 4x 9pin
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>>156783074
>needing 4 dora

The only dora is that red one.
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>Akagi, after all these years, you finally became Mahjong Legend Akagi™ The Genius Who Descended Into Darkness™
>now let's bury Washizu's corpse
>all chapters left are they digging a grave and reminiscing Akagi's highlights
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>>156751819
I don't know anything about Mahjong. But i treat Akagi as a psychological anime. And on that merit, it works too.
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I watched the Akagi anime, should I read the entire manga now that the game has finally ended?
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>>156749175
Is this seriously some sort of world record? Like, longest running single story arc in all of written literature?
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>>156749175
So I finally have a reason to post this filename
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>>156756152
I remember when the anime came out and people started getting converted like dominoes
>I keep seeing people post this weird triangle nose shit, wtf is this- holy shit I fucking love mahjong now
>rulesposting
>online mahjong rooms with /a/
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>>156783166
So you're saying the only dora turned that she could collect was a 4pin making giving her 2 Han for the 5pins?

Because I may be an ignorant anon but it looks like she's got 3 kans making for 3 extra dora not counting any uradora.

Fuck it I'll just have to watch saki.
I don't have time for this Bullshit, this is just like that time you guys forced me to watch boku no piko
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>>156783074
It's only the Aka Dora.

The whole hand is:
Open Chinitsu - 5
Toitoi - 2
Sanankou - 2
Sankantsu - 2
Rinshan Tsumo - 1
Aka Dora - 1

The kicker and final middle finger here is that what lead to that hand was two winning rinshan draws that started with the pao rule. But she ignored all those prior rinshan wins to go for a third rinshan draw which led to a the final rinshan tile which was the Aka Dora.

It's a game closing Kazoe Yakuman hand that only came to be thanks to multiple instances of near impossible statistical bullshit happening at the right time on top of each other
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>>156783951
See
>>156783960
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>>156782415

>those filthy western symbols on my glorious mahjong tiles.

just go home.
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>>156783960
You forgot to add that just for extra fuck you sauce, the tile that started the pao rule rinshan chain was actually a ron-nable tile.
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>>156783960
Thank you kind anon

Now I can die without regret.
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>>156749467
Yeah,just put me in the screen cap and I'll be on my way
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Who would you enjoy playing against?
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On chapter 237 right now, what the fuck are you doing Akagi holy shit just call ron on that Pei, being down 1700 ccs of blood would be a huge blow to that old man

God fucking dammit Akagi
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>>156784332
No fuck this guy. Put the autistic exchange about scoring in the screen cap but keep this guy's image so that he knows he has been cuckolded when he sees it on reddit or Tumblr or gaia or whatever
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I watched all the episodes the anime had and I still don't understand Mahjong.
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>>156750132
society
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>>156785207
You have to play the game, dumbass.
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Why isn't this sticky like when Guts got off that boat?
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>>156785207
if you wanna understand better you should probably learn some rules and play a bit with a yaku chart for reference, anon
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>>156785791
The day that the scantlation of the last washizu mahjong chapter was posted two people had made a thread about it so both ended up being really slow (and prople probably also didnt care)

this one is a lot more lively
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>>156777795
One is a fuckup that can't stop gambling, he chases money.

The other is a gambler in the purest sense of the word. He's in it purely for the rush, he doesn't give a fuck about the money. He'll happily throw his life away if he can experience an even greater rush.

Personally, I like Akagi more than Kaiji. They're both great for different reasons.
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>>156786548
>He'll happily throw his life away
Look, think about it. Akagi doesn't really wanna die, he wants to get closer to the concept of death.
In the event with the yakuza and the sword to the shoulder, it was more of a matter of pride though, but you get what I mean?
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>>156786756
He doesn't want to die, correct. But he does chase the perfect rush from gambling. It started with the chicken race, it's further cemented with the russian roulette with Ichikawa and finally comes to a conclusion during the Washizu mahjong games.

He is a pure gambler with no fear.
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>>156783960
Tenhou/Chiihou is more likely than that shit.
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>>156787474
I feel that Saki peaked with this match.

The rest of the fights in the series just didn't reach this level of hype. I can't really think of any other crazy shit that Saki can pull off to top this bullshit.
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>>156786942
He's just... he's such a cool guy. I like both Kaiji and him a lot, but I kind of feel as if Akagi is written with a bit more depth. Fkmt is seriously based.
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>>156787694
Akagi is written as if it is a third person retelling of a mythical figure. Kaiji is more of a first person human with all our flaws and strengths.

I love all of Fukumoto's works. The guy is unique.
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That entire fight should have been solved within 10 years max. He really overdid it.
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>>156787651
How about something along the lines of this fine piece of bullshit?
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Sup, /fkmt/, can I get discussed too?
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>>156788632
Why does he have 18 tiles if you are supposed to only have 13 of them? Mahjong is...
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>>156789027
That's the dead wall, idiot
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>>156789049
>Dead wall
So he won with 2 tiles? You ain't making sense.
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>>156789087
Look to the right budd
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>>156789224
no wait
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>>156789027
>>156789049
>>156789087
>>156789224
>>156789257

He won with 4 Kans, you idiots.

Also a very nice double yakuman
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>>156789312
shit dude, thanks
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>>156788632
Go away Mahjong IRC.
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>>156755924
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>>156788632
A chinroutou and a suu kantsu.

Honestly that is some bullshit tier luck. Just the chinroutou he was building would require some luck to get, but both at the same time?

Pure fucking bullshit. That's hell sand levels of bullshit. This man must be blessed by demons.
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>>156789443
You ain't seen nothin' yet.
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>>156789471
>Riichi on a guaranteed Yakuman.

For what reason.
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I got double ron'd.

Twice.

All in a single hanchan.

I feel so violated.
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>>156789488
It's understandable to call an early riichi for Kokushi. It helps disguise your hand and possibly force out terminals and honor tiles from people that think they are safer.
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>>156787950
The beauty of the Washizu arc is that it is all about the journey.

Everyone knew that it would end with Akagi's victory.

But the thing that Fukumoto is great at is conveying a feeling of suspense, even if you know how it ends.

With a manga like Berserk, you're not exactly sure how the story will actually end. The payoff comes at the end, so something like the boat is like spending a year at a tourist trap on your way to the best fucking party in Las Vegas. You don't know what the end of the trip is going to be like, you just know that it's going to be fucking glorious.

Meanwhile the Washizu arc is like taking the scenic route to your grandmother's house. You know exactly what awaits you at the end, but the real fun is the trip up there. Because you know it's going to be boring in comparison, but you have to do it.
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>>156789488
Delicious free sex
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>>156789514
Wow.

Slut.
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>>156749300
97 you say?
I was actually born that year
I'm going to get married in a year or two

Hahaha
Wow

Imagine the amount of people that died during that fucking mahjong game
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>>156789629
>I'm going to get married

Sluts be gone
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Everyone talking shit about muh 20 years and 240 chapters of one game. Fucking philistines
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>>156789811
That is an interesting post anon.

If you could provide more information or justify your opinion I could learn more of your sage wisdom and grow from your font of knowledge
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>>156789488
13 sided Kokushi on turn 1. It goes beyond guaranteed at that point.
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>Reading the rules
Mahjong is actually pretty easy...
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>>156790678
kuitan all day erryday.
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>>156790678
Riichi maybe
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>>156790881
Riichi is the most fucking convoluted of variants.
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>>156790881
The rules are easy. The counting system seems convoluted.
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Were the suits gay for Washizu?
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>>156755924
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>>156755924
zawa
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About that stuff with getting blood back: is human really going to be alright if you just put the blood back into his body? I can't imaging human feeling well if you transfuse his blood back and forth several times in a row.
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>>156792060
What are these, sands for ants?
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>>156755924
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Would you a female Washizu?
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>>156749175
>Guts has been on the boat for so long waaah
Who the fuck even complains about this shit?

Most of the time spent was on Griffith unleashing Fantasia and Falconia and the pit stop at the Sea God's place.
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>>156780302
>17han
>those consecutive kans
Goddamn.
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>>156783488
I don't know about story arc but it's certainly the longest "night", even mahjong match (if you stick to one of the later matches.)
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>>156755924

As Noone has posted it yet here's another from that same set
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>>156790678
Understanding the basic rules isn't really that hard but trust me when I tell tou mahjong's the devil's game.
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>>156790678
>read mahjong beginner's guide
>"oh it's basically japanese slightly more complex poker then, alright no idea why everyone is losing their shit"
>mfw tile efficiency
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>>156792563
>slightly
That is a massive understatement.
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>>156792351
shit man, i loved urabe. the poor bastard got served so hard...

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>>156792563
The real cherry on the cake for me is wait-reading. Tile efficiency is something that you can mostly nail down from playing a lot, but reading waits requires so much fucking attention to everything others do.
"What tile did he discard after calling that pon?" "What was his hand's shape before and after that call?"

Worse of all is when you have to go against people you know will keep it dama. I don't think anything short of winning yourself feels as good as realizing someone hit tenpai and what he's waiting on, avoiding it and seeing someone deal in just to confirm you were right.
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>>156792952
As a dumbass who often deals in, I'm at your service.

I reckon you can get better at reading waits by playing a lot too though, although you are right, it takes so much concentration.
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>>156776931
>It makes you wonder if Washizu experienced similar things
Washizu is a completely different character from Akagi, despite sharing a similar background.

Akagi is fundamentally apathetic and cynical, Washizu is straight up evil and greedy, Akagi has a somewhat sadistic streak but he's not "actively" evil as Washizu is, any damage dealt to a person is almost always collateral and unimportant for Akagi, Washizu actively wants to hurt and humiliate people for the sake of it, Washizu takes pleasure in destroying an opponent and establishing his superiority, Akagi takes pleasure in betting against the odds and competing against capable players, while both play because they like the game and gambling Washizu has a more personal and egotistic approach compared to Akagi.

Even in his own manga Washizu is shown to be far more involved in the game on a personal level, he sees the game as a mean to impose himself on others first and as a personal pleasure second, Akagi has a far more detached and philosophical approach to the point that you might say Akagi plays with the game instead of playing against someone.
I'd even argue Washizu is the more human character of the two, Akagi doesn't even have the range of emotions Washizu displays during their games, Akagi has always been depicted as being beyond human relationships and emotions, Washizu's the total opposite.

Washizu is more or less an evil and lucky version of Kaiji really, it's a what if scenario if someone as money obsessed like Kaiji actually had the luck and ruthless determination to go to the bitter end in gambling.
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>watch the live action
>still ends in cliffhanger
I kind of expected it, but still. I need some closure in my life.
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>>156749175
it's about time I updated this
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>>156794588
The fact that you could write up a cool paragraph or two like this just serves to show how much of a good and competent mangaka fkmt is honestly.

>Washizu is more or less an evil and lucky version of Kaiji really
I kind of see what you mean, honestly.But I really don't think the reason Kaiji is money-hungry is because money=power, in the sense that Washizu is.

Washizu has done so much evil that the fucking hell mirror thing broke, and still his passion and uh well evilness make him more human than Akagi imo as well. What a feat. Akagi's really something else.
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>>156795891
>and uh well
>imo
Go back
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>>156792952
Before anyone gets any funny ideas about being the next Akagi, it should be made clear that "wait reading" is not really a thing that you do, so much as it is just eliminating waits that are impossible or unlikely.
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>>156796822
>implying akagi gave a shit about wait reading
fucker knew his discards are dangerous and still did it
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>>156796822
>he can't guess every single of his opponents' discards before the game even starts
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>>156798132
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>>156798132
Does Washizu also die right after waking up and calling his pon?
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>>156792952
>realizing someone hit tenpai and what he's waiting on, avoiding it
and dealing into other player's hand.
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>>156788715
How does Kakegurui compare to Kaiji?
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Akagi walked out of Washizu's mansion with half his blood missing. How is that even possible?
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>>156801645
we'll see. i hope they drive him to the hospital or something, there's no way he can just walk it off.
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>>156795530
I heard valve fired some of the writers for Half Life recently so 3 might actually be NEVER EVER.
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This is why you don't read ongoing manga.
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>>156795530
Putting chapter numbers makes it sound like the manga went into a hiatus after the previous chapter for years
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>>156802357
It's more likely they're leaving because Valve does diddly squat these days. Victor Antonov leaving back in 2012 should've put it in NEVER NEVER, but having both Marc Laidlaw and Erik Wolpaw, the writers of the Half life games, leave as well earlier this year cemented the fact it's never coming out.
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>>156777795
they're both just great anon
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>>156801645
Realistically, I'm pretty sure just standing up should have caused him to faint right there.
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>>156749175
How do you make a single game last for 20 years worth of chapters?
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>>156806701
its monthly
it covers 6 rounds

so 20x12/6=40 chapters per round,not that ridiculous
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>>156807099
Actually the first 4 session were done in 2years or so
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