Invaders of the Rokujouma!?

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Compared to Yen Press this is insanely good
I am a bit pissed though, I wanted to fucking read this and now I have to pay out of my wallet to do it

>>156731847
Well, I just checked again.
Seems like the first 22 volumes will stay free forever so it's good.
I misunderstood the situation a bit.

>>156731667
>>156732058
I wonder how they even got the Japanese publisher's permission to do that.

>>156732058
That's pretty cool of them.

>>156732198
HJ Bunko isn't exactly big so they might have been simply being happy about a licensing at all?
But I have no idea.
It does seem weird, though. Seeing that the west will be able to read 22 volumes of this for free while the original country needs to pay. Legally.

>>156731667
Good for the TLer. Gets a job + the current stay free. 22 vols of free translations are pretty good.

>Entitled fucks complaining they won't get to read their weeb novels for free
lol

>>156733620
No, my main complaint was that I though they would be screwing over the translator, until I noticed like 10 minutes later that they had a proper agreement.
They're running on a subscription system after all, so if they were demanding shit for the first 22, just how much do you think the translator would have seen from that?

22 was finished? Not seeing it on secret club.

>>156732288
The "catch", if you can call it that, is that the Ebooks are paid versions. Anything else, you'll have to use the app or read on their site.

>>156731667
>>156732058
i'm happy about this, his work will finally be rewarded. but will the updates no longer be a volume in roughly a month or 5 weeks time?

>>156733993
Yeah, that's my main concern.
I hope the majority of the income for these paid e-books sold by Kobo etc. later goes toward him.

You can make your own e-books with that shit they offer for free, all you'll be missing are the colored illustrations at the beginning of each book.

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ghost is so great

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Would you bully the cosplayer?

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>>156734175
patrician taste senpai, ghost is 11/10

It's pretty impressive how garbage the LN art is.

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>>156734352
It's certainly not great.
Hardly any improvement even after 25 volumes.

>>156731667
>"employing"
Why the inverted commas? If the fan translator wants to get paid, who can blame them?

>>156734041
Volumes 4-22 should be once a month, 23 onwards is once every 2 months. Not as quick as it used to be but at least it has an editor.

Are the older translations still good to read, or should I just wait for the newer ones?

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>>156735929
The old ones are at least readable, though the new ones are a lot more pleasant to read.

>>156736134

Ok thanks. Gonna stick with the older ones for now.

>>156736287
Not even shilling but if you're not an incurable poorfag do try and gib at least some shekels eventually, the translator at least deserves that.

>>156736917

Oh I plan to, I just want to go ahead and read this for now.

>>156731667
Apparently they have a free trial promo still running at the moment for a few more days, so I guess this is the only chance to read what there is of volume 23's paywalled bits before that ends.

>>156737664
The first part will stay free, that goes for every volume.
And for new projects, mostly the first two parts.

>>156737729
Yeah, but that's no help for reading the paywalled parts.

>>156738441
That is true.
I wouldn't mind paying for it, though.
But their system is shit so that's not possible.

In the end it's all or nothing and I'm not subscribing for a single project of them since I'm not interested in the rest.

In the end, I'll have to wait for the Kobo release and buy it separately and hope that the translator gets a proper amount of that money.

>>156738541
Eh, it's literally just the standard Crunchyroll-style streaming model but with download to keep as an option. It works fine for people who are interested in several of the series I guess.

>>156734484
I actually like the simplicity of the art, personally.

Anywhere to get the 22 volumes downloaded now that Nyaa is down?

Hmm, another series that makes me seriously consider paying for J-Novel Club.

>>156741427
Either homuwaifu, or you can use WebtoEpub Chrome extension to generate your own epubs directly from the BT pages. For some reason Baka-Tsuki has been much slower than normal to take down the page, it's still up. I think there is a Mega too but I dunno where to find it.

By the way, can i buy the ebooks directly from jnovel?
and is it DRM free?

>>156742961
Yes you can buy a DRM-free "premium epub" from them, but there are a bunch of qualifiers.

>you can only purchase the "premium epubs" using "premium credits"
>to buy a "premium credit" (for $7 each) you need to already be a subscriber (at $5 a month)
>you get one "free" premium credit a month if you are a "premium subscriber" (at $10 a month)

On one hand the "premium epubs" do come with higher image resolution than the rules of the Kindle store allow, and a bunch of bonus shit like interviews and store exclusive chapters. And I can understand that they need to incentivize people to subscribe to make their business model work. On the the other hand though it does seem pretty needlessly complicated. So I've ended up just buying from Kobo so far.

>They asked me to license it and I hesitated because of the length and because of the active and relatively high quality fan translation. I floated the possibility of cooperating somehow with them and they seemed amicable (pending a specific plan). I then approached Warnis, had a few conversations with him and brainstormed this release paradigm, created a full project presentation (kikakusho, in Japanese), and presented it to the Japanese publisher for their agreement. It was only after this was approved internally that we did the normal licensing contract (which wasn't hard since we'd already done a number of other contracts). All dealings with obtaining the rights to the fan translation, etc, were done straight by us, so as far as the Japanese company is concerned they aren't working "directly" with fan translators (or former ones), but they did approve this release structure with the understanding that they did not want to alienate the current readership/fanbase at all.

>I think they understand it's the same thing as when they license a popular web novel: If they force the web novel author to stop posting to syosetsu or to remove the webnovel version from syosetsu, it leaves a bad taste in the fans' mouth and lowers sales of the LN.

So narou saved the day in the end? Seriously?

>>156731667
Yes, a person is charging money for their work.

Happy for the translator but damn, can't afford it at the moment and for some time, also throwing a sub just for 1 novel I'm following doesn't seem right

>>156731667
Is it a legal licensing or just a ploy of somebody to earn pirated money?

>>156744696
>tfw legit living off instant noodles like Yurika
Their free trial is still running, so you could have a look around the catalog for now and see if there are any others that catch your fancy for the distant future when it is within reach of paycheck.

>>156744746
JNC is a legitimate publisher and partner of Overlap and Hobby Japan (kinda like how Yen Press is a partner of Kadokawa and Vertical is a partner of Kodansha I think?). Based on >>156743823 Hobby Japan were the ones who wanted to release in English in the first place, this was the only way it could be done without pulling a Yen Press style "kill it to death".

>>156731667
That's a pretty novel way of licensing and definitely one that's good for everyone involved or at least better than certain other companies' MO. I hope it works out so we can finally get that S2/movie ;_;

Anyone have a download for the already translated volumes? I want to snag them before Baka-Tsuki takes them down.

>>156745547
San.ae / mega folder

>>156745740
My thanks

>>156745547
Are B-T devs on vacation or something? Ordinarily they would have nuked within a couple of hours of a license announcement.

>>156745912
Oh, never mind.

>Hello Warnis, from J-Novel's tweet and series page, it sounds like you've worked out an arrangement to have your translation officially released there. Congratulations! As there has been an official release, standard procedure is to delete all of the volumes from BT immediately. Though given the unusual nature of the situation, I wanted to check with you before taking action. Is deleting the volumes from BT as per normal BT policy consistent with any arrangement you have with J-Novel? --Cthaeh (talk) 18:15, 3 May 2017 (CEST)

There is always the chance someone rips the translation from j-novel and uploads it on goddess.

>>156745912
>>156746034
They're removing volumes as they're rereleased on the new place. So volumes 1-3 are taken down now.

>>156746097
Someone had been doing that for previous series, but I think they lost interest since the finalized edited ebook just comes out at the end anyway. Or maybe they were too poorfag to afford continued subscription. Volumes 1-22 will all be free anyway.

No volume 22 Pdf?

>>156735625
It's called quotation marks

>>156731667
YP should learn from these guys.

>>156746160
Its more about volume 23+ that I hope get ripped.

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>>156746390
>LN licensing companies not being Jews
IS THIS A NEW ERA??

>>156740815
Same here. Well, I already liked Poco's pics for even finding out about this novel.

>>156745740
Maybe I'm just blind, but I'm not seeing anywhere to download the novels on san.ae. Am I missing something?

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We had an uchi Musume thread a while back and there was some discussion on some of the practice. Even the founder of J Novel was there and ironically Daiz, killer of everything.

>>156746447
Funny how everyone hates Sekai Project for doing this with VN fan translations?

I'm interested in the service. Apart from roukujima, are the other novels worth my money?

>>156746498
You gotta slash and mega.

>>156746522
Rokujouma. Fuck my mobile skills

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Would JNC consider getting this?

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>>156746522
Paladin of the end. For sure.

>>156746513
SP are gigantic faggots who delay endlessly, mock their fanbase, and run Kickstarters for everything instead of just selling a product. That's why they are hated.

>>156746522
Depends, how much do you like isekai genre?

>>156746534
Ahh, that did the trick. Thanks.

>>156746584
> Genre
Not even a genre, it's a fucking setting that leads to fantasy or sci-fi.

>>156746555
>Fantasia Bunko
>a brand of Kadokawa
Yen Press has first dibs on everything Kadokawa so that would be tough.

>>156746584
I kinda like it.

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>>156746623
Read paladin. Just do it. The rest is not worth it.

>>156746615
>Yen Press
They have first dibs yet they do nothing, god it hurt's so much to live.

>>156746584
Well on the isekai side, Grimgar and Faraway Paladin are both solid. Realist Hero is a fairly decent a kingdom managenent isekai. I haven't read Bluesteel Blasphemer yet but that is written by Scrapped Princess and Chaika's author so it should be fair. I haven't read Smartphone either, but the translator (Reading Steiner) likes it. They also have Arifureta if you are the kind of person who would enjoy Arifureta. And also one more about a guy whose goal is to mixed bath with a harem of bishoujos, which I haven't read either.

As for non-isekai titles Neechan wa Chuunibyou is fairly entertaining even if it should have been written ten years ago when Haruhi style was actually still a thing; Ore ga Heroine has dismally ancient art but the plot is still worth a few laughs, UchiMusume is a fantasy Usagi Drop with extra diabetes, and Pay2win VRMMO is a fun story about a guy who pays millions of dollars and hammers the servers so he can defeat Kirito in an online game.

>>156746868
Thank you very much, I'll check it out.
>>156746735
And no ebooks. And no shipping overseas(as far as I know). And slow as fuck international release. Fuck them

>>156746868
>Grimgar
I am warning you anon, aside from paladin, it is not good. I repeat. It is not good. I am warning you ahead of time, it is not good nor is it solid.
> Realist
Neither is that.

>>156746920
Don't listen to that anon, just go for paladin.

>>156746930
That's just, like, your opinion man. Lots of people like Grimgar, and Realist is fine if you don't take it seriously and are not expecting the MC to be Diocletian or something (plus the LN version really improved on the WN)

>>156746950
Yeah, why should anon keep an open mind and form his own damn opinion?

>>156746920
Two days ago I would have pointed you to nyaa where a few of the books had only recently been uploaded, so you could at least try before buy. But unfortunately nyaa is too stupid to breathe, so here we are.

>>156746930
Grimgar is written a bit above average, it's only problem is, it somewhat leaves a bad after taste at certain points of the story.

>>156746447
Ironically I am, actually, jewish. (non-practicing)

>>156736134
Reading 16+ volumes I can confirm that competent editor would improve translation quite a lot.

>>156746991
> Opinion.
Here's my response: So what?
> Lots of people like Grimgar
Ad populum
> Don't take it seriously
You have no free will or doubt, therefore, you are brainwashed into thinking it is fine.

Ok, you want me to rant as to why Grimgar is bad?
> Death had very little effect.
It seemed rather shallow considering it was too early and just given the dramatic effect despite the obvious flaws in the first death.
> Hive mind.
Just going along with it without further question.
> Deus ex machina.
What happens in later volumes is just bullshit. Haru in a fight with something he literally cannot win against just gains a new fucking power and bullshits his way into winning. This was utterly contrived and later volumes just create a dramatic misunderstanding that makes the plot even further contrived.

>>156747073
Ah, so it was you who murdered nyaa after all.

Anyway, since the BD bonus volume and side chapters were not translated by Warnis but rather by Mountain of Pigeons, does that mean you don't get to use those translations?

>>156747065
Not really, below average.

>>156747162
>Its another anon goes off on a rant about his opinion like it suddenly makes it fact episode

We get it, you don't like Grimgar. But that anon might. Does it REALLY affect you if he reads it? I already know the answer is going to be yes, because this is /a/

>>156747073
On a probability scale of "The whole of Guin Saga in English within our lifetimes" to "Yen Press will never stop being huge flaming faggots", what would you say are your chances of persuading Seven Seas to take a chance on printing Rokujouma?

>>156747164
Unsure whether we can even access the rights to that from Japan, but if we can we'll pay Warnis to retranslate from scratch. Unless MoP emails me and we work something out I guess, but for 1 volume I think I'd just have Warnis do it for consistency.

>>156747257
I've floated omnibus editions to them. They are very cautious though. 3-in-1s or something might be way more cost efficient than singles for something this long that needs to come out quickly. I think grimgar sales and ebook sales will be key to them pulling the trigger on it though.

>>156747291
>Unsure whether we can even access the rights
SRW Syndrome strikes again? Fabulous.

Also can I take this opportunity to complain that your site reader chapter selector is really counterintuitive?

>after clicking on a part the whole page refrshes into something that looks identical to what you just left, and you have to then click yet another "Read Now" button to get to the actual chapter, instead of clicking on the part entry taking you straight there

>all the parts for all the volumes are dumped into the same long list (good luck navigating to part 2 of volume 12 out of 26 in that menu) instead of separated by volume

>>156747313
>3-in-1s
That be great if any publishers picked up old finished jp titles like Baka-test, KoreZon or Ichizon.

>>156747223
> opinion suddenly makes it fact
Oh, I'm sorry, I never realized how you fell into the mindset of an idiot that points out opinions, essentially doing the equivalency of some schmuck on the street pointing out the obvious things like the tree, sky or some other guy.
> Like it's fact.
What's opinionated here? My points about the death, deus ex machina, hive mind? What's wrong here? Are these not considered facts, if so, then prove it is not fact. Of course I have a fucking opinion. An opinion is judgement not necessarily relying on facts. I came to my conclusion based on the points I made, and that's my opinion, stop stating the obvious.
> Goes on about how people might like it.
Let me give you an analogy, if you wanted to be a good host for your guest, would you feed them garbage without question? If so, then you are essentially a terrible recommendator as well as a host.

>>156747376
Both are UI issues I've been aware from since the beginning and were more about "that's what I could code in time" than optimal design.
Already on my list for improving.

>>156747444
Nanodesu being the ADHD ass that he is think Korezon could benefit from a license much more than Bakatest.

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>>156731667
Yo that's pretty neat, Didn't even realize Rokujouma was actively being translated and that it had 23 fucking volumes released

>>156747482
>I don’t just take this fucking job home, you know. I take this job home, it fucking ties me to the bed, and it fucking fucks me from arsehole to breakfast! Then it wakes me up in the morning with a cup full of piss slung in my face, slaps me about the chops, to make sure I’m awake enough so it can kick me in the fucking bollocks! This job has taken me in every hole in my fucking body! QUARKBOY IS GONE! You can't know Quarkboy, because Quarkboy is not here! Quarkboy fucking left the building fucking years ago! This is a fucking husk, I am a fucking host for this fucking job. Do you want this job? Then you're gonna have to fucking swallow this whole fucking life and let it grow inside you like a parasite. Getting bigger and bigger and bigger until it fucking eats your insides alive and it stares out of your eyes and tells you what to do.

Quarkboy, if you accept suggestions for LNs here are a few
転生従者の悪政改革録

復活したらLv1だったので、生き延びるために英雄少女を口説くことにしました

イチから始める最強勇者育成　毒の沼を泳いで渡る彼女たちを勇者にするのは間違っているだろうか<イチから始める最強勇者育成> (富士見ファンタジア文庫)

セブンス /Sevens

>>156731667
why redo something if it already exists?

>>156747550
I am going on a vacation to hawaii in a week.

I need it.

I mean I'll be working the whole time I'm there so things keep getting uploaded but... I'll be on the beach at least.

>>156747580
Please no, Sevens is such disappointing shit.

>>156747313
I'm sure you've thought longer and harder than me about the issue of sales cannibalization, but for whatever an anecdote is worth I'm still stuck over whether to buy digital to encourage a print and end up having to double dip, or hold off and possibly contribute to the whole thing falling apart.

>>156747580
> All harem series.
Stop, it burns my eyes.

>>156747608
LN is completly different from WN. There is even new heroines.

>>156747591
How did HJ Bunko let you get away with releasing 22 volumes in English for free?
Also will there be physical versions of the books or no

>>156747627
転生従者の悪政改革録 isnt harem tough.

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>>156747580
Where's Amaburi on that list

I gotta know if 50cento and Kanye actually had a kid

Does steiner ACTUALLY like Smartphone or is it just something his contract requires him to say? What if all of their translators are secretly dying on the inside?

>>156736134
>edited
>"The crying cicadas could be heard coming from the trees"

Some big fucking cicadas

>>156747684
Do not know if Steiner likes it or not, but they requested him cause he was the fastest translator they had (or so he says) and they wanted translations for up to vol 3 before anime comes out.

>>156747582
Well the translation is being redone. >>156736134
And the official release will have nice clean art from the digital masters instead of artifacted scans so there's that.
And you'll be giving a little back to the translator.

>>156747638
How about you read the thread.
Ironically Syosetsuka ni Narou has done something positive for the English scene for once in its miserable life.

>>156747591
Get some scripts to do that shit, Japanese people have died from working. How many new subscribers do you need to get to be able to afford to employ one website manager?

>>156747591
Well dang, man. Make the most of it.
Can I assume that since you are going to Hawaii and not Okinawa, business is booming?

>>156747715
I have enough to afford a part time project manager, but we've only been in existence for 6 months. I've focused primarily on building content and localizers and internal best practices and will start working on staffing/management structure over the next few months. I'm building this as I go and I DO have a plan. It just isn't implementable instantaneously. I can take the brunt of it myself for now, as I chip off little bits of what I do like epub assembly.

>>156747810
We are profitable already, yes. After only 5 months. A lot of that is the fact that I do everything and we have almost no fixed costs, but on a running month to month basis we're in the black now.
I'm already in the startup stage where it's about forming a company structure rather than floundering for a business model.

>>156747659
Yeah this, FMP is getting another season already. Gatou should try shilling Amaburi to get fully localized too.

>>156747849
Out of sheer curiosity, do Anime News Network reviews of your stuff have a noticeable impact on sales and subscriptions when they go up?

>>156744696
Try Faraway Paladin then. It'd be 2.

>>156747891
It seems to depend a lot. Paladin's review helped a lot but it already had great word of mouth.
Other reviews did have measurable bumps but nothing will save SisKan's sales...

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>>156731667
Does this mean years later after I've mastered the art of runes some company will hire me?

>>156747913
>SisKan
To be fair SisKan seems like something that can be enjoyed only if you know the original language.

Hey wait a minute, 22 was translated just in mid-April. Either this deal was laid on in less than a month, or Warnis was just happily continuing on translating despite knowing he would soon be switching sides.

>>156747960
No, robots will steal your work.

>>156747913

Anyone here can provide a brief summary of what Paladin is about?

I like Rokujouma a lot but 114$ for just it and Grimgar is not a very good justification.

On the other hand, waiting for vol23 full copy will be excruciating because Blue Knight is returning.

>>156747968
He'd finished the translation months early and was just releasing it on a schedule so as not to raise suspicion.

>>156748016
>so as not to raise suspicion
Because being able to say "gotcha!" is more valuable than lost sales?

>>156746447
I'm just going to dump a few quotes from a supposed industry insider on plebbit so we can see how conventionally nothing about J-Novel Club makes any sense whatsoever.

>I hope you do realize that LN publishers in the English speaking world are contractually obligated to take down fan translations/pirates as much as possible.
>It is often directly stipulated in contracts. It's either DMCA fan translations or lose access to series and books to a company that is willing to fight piracy.
>Guess who hates fan translations/pirates? The Japanese publishers and Japanese authors
If you ever meet a Japanese person who works in the manga/anime/LN industry and ask them what they think about their overseas fans, their first thing they will say is that most of them are pirates so they don't matter.
>(...)it is true that the perception Japanese media companies have of their overseas fans is extremely poor and they constantly crawl the web to find fan translations/pirated versions of their work and send direct requests to EN language publishers they have agreements with to send DMCAs.
>The most jaded authors/JP workers simply think of most overseas fans as thieves as evidenced by the rate of piracy/unauthorized translation, which is unfortunate for both us (EN industry workers) and fans.

>>156748168
>>156746447
>[Would using a digital release model with follow-up physical releases later be a sustainable method of placating those who want translation to "catch up" while also offering a physical collectible later for those for whom having a tangible product is important?]

>This would not fly over well with many retailers and the JP pub/authors.
>This is due to LN's very small market size.
>With manga, there are enough 'collector' type buyers within the market pool that will want the physical editions whether or not digital releases come out first, at the same time, or later.
>With LNs, retailers will see it as cannibalizing the small number of LN buyers and making it infeasible to stock any sizable number of physical LNs. (i.e. they won't buy them).
>And not making a physical book could very well run counter to contract agreements.
>On top of everything, digital licenses are an additional cost if you wish to buy the print licenses. The rights holders also have to be willing to sell you only the digital rights, which they might not be keen on doing (selling both nets more money, they might want to hold onto digital licenses until later, etc)
>But yes, doing digital only releases when a physical release would incur too many overhead costs are possibilities. Digital releases still come with a large chunk of costs so it's not a massive difference in costs but it can be quite significant savings.
>However, I do not see a possibility of negotiating staggered digital/physical releases if for no other reason than many JP pubs/authors wouldn't like it. And obviously we can't do it alone haha!

>>156748189
>>156748168
>>156746447
>The main issue is that JP pubs generally don't want to sell only digital licenses. It's either print license only or print and digital licenses.
>This is because they definitely don't want to sell the physical license to someone else if they already have someone working on the title with a digital license because that would mean two different groups working on the same title and in the end producing inconsistent products.
>It introduces complications and more negotiations and JP pubs simply don't see it as worth the effort so they don't bother trying to work out such complicated deals.
>This means the physical and digital license of a title generally needs to stay together. If the EN pub only wants to take on one license it's going to be the physical license.
>There's also the issue of piracy/fan translations.
>JP pubs/authors are wary of digital only releases because they see them get pirated often and this influences their willingness to follow through on any proposals of a digital only LN release.
>In that sense, they see physical editions as presenting value that can't be gotten from a pirated version (owning a physical copy). EN pubs also generally want to publish physical books because there's still a strong sense of measuring a publisher's ability by how well they create a print book, which is often a magnitude of difficulty greater than a digital release. In other words, it builds confidence in the EN pub's abilities from both consumers, the industry, and observers.
>I think as JP pubs/authors get more used to working with EN pubs and the EN LN market grows more significant, we'll start to see a greater push for digital only releases.
>But a digital only release still probably wouldn't be a monthly volume release. That's barely enough time for the translator to get through the manuscript, nevermind editing, proofreading, design, layout, and other things.

>>156748213
>But a digital only release still probably wouldn't be a monthly volume release. That's barely enough time for the translator to get through the manuscript, nevermind editing, proofreading, design, layout, and other things.
I'd say stopped reading here but it was the end anyway. Steiner's putting out one volume a month with smartphone and there are no real issues at all.

>>156748213
>>156748189
>>156748168
>>156746447
>DMCAs are, as I explained, a contractual obligation. I honestly don't care a great deal about whether someone reads a fan translation or not because people who want a free alternative will go for the free alternative every time over the paid version if they don't really care about it, and fan translations/piracy is not necessarily sales lost.
>I also understand that some fans do not enjoy having something they see as 'theirs' be taken from them, i.e. fan translations.
>Unfortunately, the current climate of EN pub relationships with JP pubs/authors requires that we DMCA anything the JP pubs/authors find because they see it as stealing their IP. Japanese publishers and authors in general (not all but many) traditionally see the fan translation community as thieves and would love nothing more than for them to be DMCAed into oblivion.
>It's unfortunate but that's how it is. Many authors resent that their works are shared freely without permission or any input from the author. Many of these authors are also quite angry that translations are being put out onto the web without their approval because anyone could say 'this is a translation of XYZ' and their works could be misrepresented, whether by mistranslations, typos, grammar errors, mistake of intent, etc.
>Again, these are simply facts about people in the industry.

>>156748244
Steiner probably took two months to translate it then sent the translation back to himself by D-mail.

>And, as mentioned, even if ENpubs didn't want to DMCA fan translations, JP pubs and JP authors want ENpubs to.
>It's a part of the relationship.
>If the ENpub doesn't step up to do it's part, the JPpub/authors will take their series elsewhere to someone who does promise to DMCA piracy/fan translations.
>Until this changes, DMCAs will still be a thing.

>>156748016
Speaking of which, Warnis, Ningen, and DxS all still using screennames/pseudonyms even in an official capacity?

So Quarkboy this here post chain. Was this is referring to Rokujouma?

https://desuarchive.org/a/post/154924181
https://desuarchive.org/a/post/154924971
https://desuarchive.org/a/post/154925445

>>156748353
That's their choice. I think that's because that's the names they use on VN projects they've done and they want to unify their "brand", not out of some desire to be anonymous.

>>156748250
So it's the old suits being stubborn as usual.

>>156748448
Yes.

>>156748511
Well, off by one ain't bad.

>>156748286
ThrowawayLNworker was not wrong for the major publishers circa 1-1.5 years ago. Today the situation is different and changing rapidly. Digital releases are being accepted because they are being accepted even in Japan and I pay actual money, and quickly.
The more numbers I can show the more attitudes will change. No one is stubborn for pride (even the Japanese), it's fear of losing profit, and when that is proven to be unfounded then policies will change.

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>>156748553
As long as some day you get the numbers you need to hit up for Muv-Luv books.

In the meantime how about Taimadou Gakuen?

>>156748553
Yeah, these days even Sword Art Online can get a digital release despite holding out for years as print only.

>>156743428
Ha, what a garbage method to get money. No wonder Chinese web novels are rising.

>>156746447
Well, we are living in an era where having a good PR with you public can bring more profits than combating piracy ever will.

>>156748553
Does the relative size of publishers effect their receptiveness to change? Perhaps bigger players like Shueisha or Kodansha who still won't gib digital English releases can afford to play it safe because they are still making oodles of cash either way, whereas someone like HJ whose best seller is friggin Smartphone of all things has more to gain from a gamble with a new business model.

>>156748016
I wonder how Arifureta is faring, I mean even considering all the backlash on /a/ its still pretty popular over here isn't it?

Quarkboy yesterday asked for a list of possible bonuses yesterday that could possibly be bundled with the premium volumes. Let me know if I've missed anything. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qhH5uH-D3ko6f5mdNGpQHRW8K3AySnk9lraEw98RR8o

>>156749575
I'm not sure how fair it would be to make the side chapters into premium content, since they were previously free on Baka-Tsuki. I'd like to hope I would be getting something more exclusive for a premium bonus.

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>>156749641
I can see that being an issue for the story based ones, bromides, collections and drama CDs would still be more than welcome. Along with the two from volume 15 that don't seem to be available anywhere.

>>156749575
>yesterday asked for a list of possible bonuses yesterday
Too little sleep, I apologise, have a Clan in apology

>>156736134
>Edited
>Theia-dono
>Satomi-sama
>dono
>sama
NANTO

>>156749956
I think quarkboy said it's down to translator preference. Steiner's work on smartphone doesn't have any honorifics.

>>156750001
It does, but only for the character who is from the fantasy version of Japan.

>>156750272
Heh, that's pretty clever.

Figure I'll post a discussion from the Baka-Tsuki Discord that happened yesterday. (screenshots not by me; note the time differences)

Basically, js06 is a robot, and if he agrees to give up the rights to his translation, he can get paid for helping edit Demon King Daimaou. But neither he, nor Warnis are paid for actually giving up their translation; only for the editing work that happens after already coming on board.

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>>156750689
>no image
I'm a retard.

>>156750689
>But neither he, nor Warnis are paid for actually giving up their translation; only for the editing work that happens after already coming on board.
Being paid for the editing work as it gets released is effectively identical to as if they were being paid to translate it for the first time, right? So as supposed to purchasing an existing translation, it's more like they are commissioning him to do a translation, and it just so happens, conveniently, he has the bulk of the work already done.

>>156750689
>js06 is a non-existent human
Isn't js06 a little girl who lives in Alabama? Is a js even allowed to sign a contract?

>>156750839
Oh wait, js06 has been using that name since at least 2010, that was when he (she?) started translating Hayate scans.

>>156750689
Honestly, what's the point in licensing Color Wars?
The translation is finished, and is good.
There are so many LNs out there, just get something without a translation.

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>Same translator
>We get to keep the already translated volumes for free, re-edited
We got a far better deal than expected.

>>156751072
This. Ben-To translations when?

>>156751072
It's like he said: So far novels with the most fan translation seems to be selling the best, so maybe starting with something that has a completed fan-translation may do well.

That's probably because novels with more translations also happen to be the ones that are better or more popular to begin with though. So an LN without a fan-translation might be seen as a big risk.

>>156751115
>Ben-To translations when?
When Shueisha stop being as useless as a onahole made of wood.

>>156751131
There are a lot popular LNs out there without fan translation or with dead fan translations.
But I guess as long as licensing works on popular > good, because - as usual - it's simply all about money in the end, I'm better of learning Japanese.

>>156751206
>because - as usual - it's simply all about money in the end
And then there was the mystifying case of Siskan.

>>156748007
>Anyone here can provide a brief summary of what Paladin is about?

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/faraway-paladin/novel-1/.112124

>>156731667
Well that's another series I have to drop because people felt they need money for doing things after doing it for a while for free and royally fuck over poorfags. Well shit.

>>156751115
>Ben-To
fucking yes please this

I gotta know if that one OP fuck gets his shit kicked in or cucked by MC

>>156751303
>because people felt they need money for doing things after doing it for a while for free and royally fuck over poorfags
I can't think of any other LN fan translators that defected to the other side. VNs, sure, but not LNs.

And let's be honest, poorfags can still find pirated copies of even the official translations if they wanted. Happened with all of Yen Press's shit, even the print-only ones.

>>156751342
I did found paladin vol 1 and 2 pirated, but no luck with rokujoma 23.
Tired of being a poorfag but can't find a job because several reasons.

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>yfw

>>156751433
>vol 1 and 2
that's impressive, since even homuwaifu doesn't have 2 yet.

>but no luck with rokujoma 23
probably because it's only half done

If you can't spare $5 for a book then you really need to take a good look at your life.

>>156751332
the MC is the one who is cucked the girl only choose him after she was dumbed by the other senpai she love and one of the ends he is married to lesbian who cuck him with her girl lover

>>156747376
This may be of interest.

http://www.otakujournalist.com/web-design-retrospect-j-novel-club/

>>156751332
Ben-To actually has multiple ends, which is interesting choice for a novel. He can end up with anybody from

>Main heroine
>Kinpatsu kyonyuu cousin
>Violent lesbian
>One of the Orthrus twins
>Childhood friend
>Main heroine's imouto

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>>156751725
Kyou ending is the best

>>156751072
>>156750689

Hagure Yuusha no Estetica translations when?
Hyakka Ryouran: Samurai Girls translations when?

>>156752076
When you cough up cash for Color Wars to prove that old shit can sell.

>>156752117
I already read that, but maybe I will buy it when I'll have free cash.

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>>156752055
You're missing Marika.

>>156752201
I made that pic a long time ago, I'll have to look around for any scans of that page and add it on

Also, Quarkboy, if you are still here, is there are any chanse of j-novel club to license some series from gagaga bunko? It's label of Shogakukan, and I don't think there are any licenses in the west aside from Oregairu from them? and something like されど罪人は竜と踊る Dances with the Dragons with an upcoming anime will be popular enough to warant a license.

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>>156752221
Fixed

>>156751192
Seven Seas licensed Monster Girl Doctor from them

>>156752758
and 10 years ago they licensed Boogiepop from Dengeki bunko, but this doesn't mean shit.

Ghost > all.

>>156752908
That's a funny way of spelling Mackenzie

>>156752982
There is no need for cosplayers here.

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>>156753006
SHE'S THE REAL DEAL

which one is good?
Rokujouma no Shinryakusha! - Volume 01 [L1][Baka-Tsuki][Baka-Tsuki].pdf
Rokujouma no Shinryakusha! - Volume 01 [L1][Baka-Tsuki][Toshiyashiro].epub
Rokujouma no Shinryakusha! - Volume 01 [L2][Baka-Tsuki][Villag3Idiot].pdf
Rokujouma no Shinryakusha! - Volume 01 [L2][Baka-Tsuki][WebToEpub].epub
Rokujouma no Shinryakusha! - Volume 01 [L3][Baka-Tsuki][Freezing].pdf
Rokujouma no Shinryakusha! - Volume 01 [L4][Baka-Tsuki][Hykzqwmx].pdf

>>156753369
One of the round, probably toshi's, though the stuff on jnc is a much nicer read English wise

>>156753369
WebToEpub is technically the purest one since it's generated directly from Baka-Tsuki with all the exact same formatting.

>>156753414
>>156753430
okay, I'll just download those two.

>>156752283
He's probably sleeping because his sleep wake schedule is really fucked, you're better off trying to keep Yurika off the last page until he gets back.

>>156750779
>the stuff with the MOST fan translation sells the most so far (approximately)

So going by this criteria, the sales hierarchy would go something like

Arifureta >= Realist Hero >= UchiMusume > Smartphone > Grimgar > Occultic Nine > Paladin >= Ore ga Heroine > P2W VRMMO = Mixed Bathing = NeeChuu >= Bluesteel > Brave Chronicle > flopsville >>> SisKan

Presumably.

>>156748553
Hey Quarkboy if you happened to come back and see this question before the thread dies, (or even if it does die could you reply in the ghost archive?), who is the tabletop-playing K-sensei that the writer of Faraway Paladin mentions as being his inspiration to write in the afterword of The Boy In The City Of The Dead? It says that he won a so-called Rookie Prize, what book did he win it with and who was running that contest?

>>156751595
>$5
you need at least pay $4.95 to become member of JNC, and spend $7 to buy its e-book and download it

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Cute dragons are for marriage

>>156751725
>>156752055
Shaging Shaga!

>>156751725
>>156752055
>>156752393
>Actually did an Umi ending

what a mad man

>>156755186
Ume-sama, not Umi, anon.

>>156734098
>sold by Kobo
If that's the exclusive seller of the ebooks they are fucked. Kobo is small potatoes.

>>156755249
The post said "sold by Kobo etc." not "sold by Kobo".
They're sold on Kindle, Kobo, iBooks, nook, Bookwalker, and their own website.

>>156746390
Late to the thread, why is YP so bad?

>>156754872
I don't know for sure since authors use pennames and K is probably his real name. But I bet it's one of the people he follows on his twitter feed. Yanagino-san has a nice twitter.

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>>156755882
>and K is probably his real name

>>156755969
I meant short for his real name....

>>156754694
>Brave Chronicle
Oh yeah, that was a thing that existed, wasn't it.

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>>156755249
The best option is either their premium, which requires the subscription, or Kobo since they're the only ones not fucking with the images.
Pic related.

Anything else, be it google, amazon, or whatever will fuck with either the resolution or quality settings making the quite steep price of over 7€ not worth it at all.
If I'm buying it, I want to get the best thing possible for the money I'm investing.

>>156755882
>Yanagino-san has a nice twitter.
He seems to be a fan of F/GO, nature, and light novels about Gaius Julius Caesar as a bishoujo struggling to pay off her debt.


>>156756290
I think Bookwalker doesn't fuck with images either, but Bookwalker is also far more locked down than Kobo.

>>156755969
>>156755882
>>156754872
Doesn't K get mentioned in the afterword of Isekai Smartphone, too? Or am I misremembering.

>>156748625
By god, I would shell out shekels for a physical release of Taimadou Gakuen

>>156756395
You're probably right, and I would buy from them if anyone with the know how created a DRM removing tool for BW.
I have already a bunch of Japanese books sitting to be ripped and uploaded.

>>156756406
I'm sure there's more than one K.

>>156756406
K-san is the head editor at Hobby Japan. I'm pretty sure it's a completely different K-san.
Like all the hobby Japan authors thank K-san.

>>156756535
Any plans in the future to get anything else but HJ or OVERLAP stuff?

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>>156756395
>this is a Roman consul

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>>156756643
Julius Caesar was of course known for being an extreme womanizer, and slept with the mothers and sisters of his political opponents because he knew it galled them.

Honestly happy for Warnis. He deserves it for his hard work on the series. Glad it's coming to where I can purchase it now but also sad it's not free anymore. Rokujouma is a very good series so glad to see it finally getting an official release? Anyone know if this is coming out physical and on Kindle?

>>156756885
It'll be out on Kindle but physical releases will probably depend on how well physical Grimgar does as well as how well it sells on Kindle. I guess you could get everyone to tweet at Seven Seas en masse or something too.

>>156756929
>grimgar
Not really fond of that. Will wait to see if paladin gets a phys release, otherwise will buy the digital.

>>156752076
Well, maybe one of those is Steiner's mystery project?

>>156750779
>the alternative is his translation goes poof
So if I'm reading this right, that means if the translator cannot be contacted to reach an agreement, BT will have to nuke the whole translation as is usual with YP?

Hyouketsu Kyoukai no Eden when? ;_;

>>156756643
>>156756823
Beware the tits of March

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>>156731667
Wait what the fuck.

I fell behind a few volumes, nooooo

>>156757939
>The Decision of Julia Caesar - Gallia War Record
>Roman hero Caesar is a big tits and covered with debt!
>The favorite period is ancient Rome, the respecting great is Roman hero Julius Caesar - such a high school student who likes Roman · Seiya Orihara (Sayya) Transferred to a different world by a beautiful person who asserts the goddess of the moon.
>There is a world that looks exactly like ancient Rome.
>Although Sayya was able to meet Caesar of the yearning, ...
>Caesar of the other world was a blonde beautiful girl named Julia !!
>Sayya who decided to live in the house of Julia knew the dream of Julia who changed Rome which declines, promise cooperation.
>However, Julia is a girl who is covered with debt!
>Seiya will go to borrow the funds of Julia's planned public works and event holding! -
>Girls' dreams change the world (Rome) Foreign world hero fantasy, Dignified opening!

>>156757994
Majority of the volumes are still up.

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I mean, on one hand this is the best possible deal rokujoma fans could have possibly gotten.

On the other hand, I feel comfy threads will be destroyed now because new content will be stuck behind a paywal.

How do I buy volume 23 on amazon? If I'm going to throw money to support the new releases, I'd rather own it than pay monthly for a readers club.

>>156758508
you'll have to wait 19 months for volume 23 ebook to get released

>>156758597
Fuck.

I want to directly support Warnis and the translation by throwing money directly at it. Not a fan of subscribing to everything for 19 months when I don't get to keep anything after I'm done.

>>156758735
just buy the first volume ebook when it comes out next month

>>156758735
>I don't get to keep anything after I'm done
You get 1 credit a month for a free eBook, so you'd get 19 eBooks.

>>156758961
Wait, so even if I subscribe I get only one of their e-books per month?

>>156758735
You don't have to keep subscribing to them, just re-subscribe whenever a new volume's translation is finished. They let you read the whole thing as long as it hasn't been published in ebook form yet. $5 is chump change anyway.

>>156758996
You get a credit to buy a completed novel but you can still read the pre-publication novels (i.e. novels which haven't been released yet and are still being edited).

If you're still here, J Novel Club dev, cheers dude. I'm currently in the process of moving for work, but when life settles down I'll buy a premium membership. It's cool to finally see a legit LN platform that's actually good for everyone involved.

>>156758996
You get to read them as they're translated weekly. Then when a full volume is complete and published, they wait 2 or so weeks before taking it off. Right now there's a free week going on so all of the parts of every book they've ever done are available once more.

>>156759078
That I understand, but I'm paying 10 per month to simply read what they have got and once it gets an official release I can keep only a single book per month and all other shit that has an e-book already isn't accessible anymore?
If it's like that, there's no way I'm subscribing to this even when they get more interesting novels.

I can obviously make copes if that myself (or even write a ripper) since honestly, in the end each part is a simple HTML page. But still.

>>156731667
cool, happy for Warnis

warnis is a cosplayer

cosplayers for the last page