Dragon Ball Super

If Goku gets passed up by Gohan in episode 90. I'm done with this bullshit show

>>156725267
What's up with episode 90?

>>156725465

Gohan and Goku fight and Gohan has some new transcendent power and he might become stronger than Goku

>>156725762
Then it's simple
If Goku don't go blue he'll win, if he goes blue he'll lose

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No. Stop. Just shut the fuck up. Cabba will end up with Vados. This is the perfect opportunity for the angel and saiyan bloodlines to mix. Nobody seriously cares about some shitty filler character who will be irrelevant come the end of this arc. Caulifla is an uncivilized, stupid whore who has probably taken hundred of monkey dick by now. She dresses like a raging slut, Caulifla is seriously shit. Cabba deserves a pure woman like Vados.

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>This is your God for this universe

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>>156725927
#notmygod

Dragon ball shit

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>She will never jerk you off with her BBQ covered hands and then have her lick it off.

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>>156725927
Literally who?

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I haven't watched any episode since pic related, did anything interesting happen since then?

>>156726889
No.

>>156726889
Gohan got his daily dose

>>156726789
>She will never have a good design

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Rage isn't unique when it comes to activating SS1-2(3?), but it is when it comes to god-tier forms.

This is the first time someone that is now basically SS3-tier raged this hard

> Rage over "your mothers death, the death of humanity, and death of all mortals is all YOUR fault!" makes more sense versus some robot that you never knew having his face crushed

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Make a better U7 Team:
> Goku
> Vegeta
> Gohan
> Piccolo
> Lapis
> Lazuli
> Buu
> Future Trunks
> Goten
> Kid Trunks

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>>156725106
1/3

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>>156727192
2/3

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>>156727227
3/3

>>156727192
>>156727227
>>156727271
Man, if only he was this creative when it comes to the actual manga.

>>156726889
Gohan jobbed to Krillin

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>>156725106

Subarashi.

>>156727289
The manga is fine.

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>>156727358
>The manga is fine.

>>156727192
>>156727227
>>156727271
stop posting this autistic fanfiction

>>156727358
The manga lacks creativity, therefore it is utter shit.
Also what >>156727414 said.

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>TRUNKS..........YOU ARE. A SINNER

>>156727227
Blue Goku looks so fucking stupid.

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>>156727289
>>156727378
>>156727432

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Reminder that Piccolo is SSJ tier in the androids arc.

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>>156727478
And that was how many chapters ago? Toyotaro still needs Toriyama's manga in his hand to borrow "references".

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>>156727478

>>156727289
>>156727378
>>156727432

>>156727432
(You)

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Why do people think Goku's stupid? TFS memed up Goku's "stupidity" too hard. Just read some of the stuff he said throughout the series.

>[When Frieza kills Vegeta] Goodbye, Vegeta. You’re not as cold-hearted as you believed yourself to be. A heart of stone can’t shed tears like you did. You must have been holding them back your whole life. I’m the only one left. I think I understand you now. You weren’t grieving over your own death, or because our home planet was destroyed. You were grieving because he turned you into what he wanted you to be. You never had a chance to be anything else. Well I still respect you. I know you made a lot of mistakes, but now I see that it wasn’t all your fault. You had the fiery will of a Saiyan. Please share that with me now, ’cause I need it. Thank you for saving my son’s life and buying enough time for me to recuperate. I’ll do my best to carry out your wish. (to Frieza) It’s true. Vegeta’s right. You have no honor. For him. And for everyone else you’ve destroyed, I am going to finish you.

Is it because they're stupid and can't comprehend the 11D multiversal chess based Son kun is playing.

>>156727551
>no argument
At least you're aware how much of a hack he is.

>>156727589
>no argument
That's (You)

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>>156727478
The Champa Arc in the manga was so much better (except Piccolo vs Frost and Goku vs Hit)

The very beginning of the Future Trunks Arc in the manga was so much better. Until after SS3 Goku vs SS2 Trunks, the manga seemed to exponentially go to shit. It just got worse and worse.

>>156727478
>>156727549
Oh wow, 2 boring fights. Special. Compared that to anything Toriyama has done, and it's nothing. Not even close.

>>156727661
> Piccolo's fight against Frost was shit in the manga
> Trunks being side-lined in his own arc in the manga

I guess Toyo just really loves the Goku & Vegeta Show©

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>no new Gohan/Chichi doujin in months

how long do I have to wait?

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>>156727740
>Toyo just really loves the Goku & Vegeta Show
He likes GT. What do you expect?

>>156725762
Hopefully /ourman/ Gohan wins.

Characters by power:

#1 Gohan (Powerlevel - infinity+1)
#2 Grand priest (Powerlevel - infinity)
#3 Zeno sama (Powerlevel - 89 trillion)
#4 Jiren (Powerlevel - 88 trillion)
#5 Zamasu (Powerlevel - 42 trillion)
#6 Broly (Powerlevel - 24 trillion)
#7 FemBroly (Powerlevel - 100 billion)
#8 Teen Gohan (Powerlevel - 90 billion)
#9 Kid Gohan (Powerlevel - 90 million )
#10 Super Duper Perfect Revived Cell SSJG36 (Powerlevel - 696,420)
#11 Frieza (Powerlevel - 530,000)
#12 Yamcha (Powerlevel - 420,000)
#13 Mr. Popo (Powerlevel - 10)
#14 Farmer Carl (Powerlevel - 5)
#15 Raditz (Powerlevel - 1)
#16 People who think that caulifa and fembroly are the same (Powerlevel - negative zero)

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>>156727549
>>156727478

>>156727141
I want Torankusu to fill my womb with his babies.

>>156727580
DICASTYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>156727141
my headcanon is that Trunks' pure rage tapped into god ki that he was exposed to during his sparring matches with Goku and Vegeta, giving him a pseudo-SSJ God power

>>156727803
>ouchie
That term is reserved for the sunday morning cartoon >>156727803

>>156727755
Just ask Jay-Marvel

>>156727768
But GT is just Goku Time

>>156725762
good

fuck goku

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>Through his training with Piccolo, Gohan came to realize that the one he must surpass is his father Gokuu. So he teams up with Piccolo and they take on the duo of Gokuu and Tenshinhan! Facing Gohan, who having finished his training has now obtained unprecedented power, Gokuu will…?!

>>156727190
>Calling Gokou, "Goku"
>Calling Vegetable King Supreme, "Vegeta"
>Calling The Strongest in the Universe Mach 2, "Gohan"
>Calling The Doc, "Piccolo"
>Calling Robot forehead man., "Lapis"
>Calling Robot forehead woman, "Lazuli"
>Calling Boo, "Buu"
>Calling The Purple Penis, "Future Trunks"
>Calling Short Goku, "Goten"
>Calling The Blue Brat, "Kid Trunks"

>>156727803
Why don't they have internal organs?

>>156728008
its just an ouchie

>>156728008
cell is a robot,
and black is just a tracing of cell, so...

>>156726789
>She will never faceoff against another Brolyna naked on the ring

>>156727755
>yfw dicasty draws better

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>>156725927
A cute.

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>>156728074
You missed this one.

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Why did they recruit Cabba and not Caulifla for the Champa arc Tourney?

>>156727580
Goku, in the original manga/anime isn't stupid, he's just uneducated and a little naive. In battle he's quite clever and perceptive and is capable of coming up with complex strategies.

Super is a lot more comedic so they play up his stupidity for humor, but the only time it stretched belief imo is when he fell for Beerus pretending to be Monaka

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>>156728132
Is she REALLY Caulifla?

>>156728132
One is a underworld unknown gangster, another is a known saiyan from space police.

>>156728178
No don't listen to any of the autists pretending that she is caulifa, their eyes will be opened when the next ep comes out.

>>156728178
If she isn't, we are gonna have a catfight between them next tourney

THE GREAT DEBATE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUOLs-UTZQw

VS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hCYRbV6KkU

>>156728049
That's Zamasu ya dummy and he needs no ningen organs.

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>>156728199
Saved.

So if I get this right, universe 9 is the weakest universe of all, then universe 7 and then universe 6, who's the strongest universe between the 8 chosen to fight then? And how the hell can anyone be stronger than a guy that can destroy the universe with his bare fists?

>>156727227
Aside from Blue Goku's crazy neck, this looks really nice

>>156728289
Lol, we will see when the day of reckoning comes by.

Here are the predictions:

FemBroly - Universe 11, much stronger than Caulifa. Everyone is surprised that U11 has saiyans too.

Caulifa - Universe 6, much better character design and personality than FemBroly. Champa is surprised that Cabba ends up being stronger than Caulifa.

>>156728328
we don't know what "mortal level" means, it's never once been stated to be the same thing as battle power

>SSJ goku became as strong as SSG
>SSJ became stronger than Buu saga SSJ3
>SSB is therefore ridiculously impossibly strong
>gets matched by a bunch of people who couldnt beat dabura let alone SSJ3 Goku
they shouldnt even be able to beat base goku, why is this all so fucked up now

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>>156728178
I don't know why people can't fathom 3 different Saiyans in the U6 team.

U7 has 3: Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan. And Saiyans are nearly extinct there.

Why would U6 only have 2 Saiyans in their team when there's so many of them?

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>>156728244
>Japanese background music in a nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmf3rND8NZo

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>Gohan surpasses his father in ep 90

too fucking funny

>>156725106
Finally a thread without a waifufaggotry OP.

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>>156728348
>FemBroly - Universe 11

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It's simple! Violate Caulifla and Brolyna... in their pure bare asses!

>>156728344
Pretty good considering all his signature sketches are done on the fly right in front of you quickly.

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>>156728357

>the absolute STATE of power level fags right now

>>156728348
Bold claims you have here. I'll be looking forward to seeing how right/wrong you are.

>>156728361
Japanese background music is more like

>The song that plays when someone is saying something evil

>The song that plays when a character is powering up or angry

>The song that plays when something sad happens

>The theme song, which plays when some bullshit happens and the protagonist kicks ass when he clearly shouldn't be able to at this point

>The background music for when pointless shit is happening

>Lastly, the happy song that plays during a joyous celebration or just a peaceful situation

>>156728348
Does that mean FemBroly and Caulifa will have to catfight?

>>156728444
i dont count the numbers, but goku is obviously stronger at fucking base than he once was at ssj3, he was able to fight pre-golden freeza at base despite him being much stronger, he was able to fight beerus at ssj prior to even training with whis. why can someone like krillen even hold their own against buu saga SSJ goku, let alone modern SSB goku, it makes absolutely no sense. he should be 10000x stronger

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>>156728506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6s1MchuGZ8

>>156728511
Hopefully.

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Why is the SSG transformation used constantly in the manga by Goku and now Vegeta, but in the anime has not being used since the Goku vs Beerus fight?

Someone said because Toyotaro actually cares about consistency and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

But I think that is why his manga is terrible.
Consistency is boring, we don't need that in DB.
At times, consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show. Toyo cannot understand that and the manga suffers for it.

>>156728565
it's clear SSG isn't a real transformation outside of the ritual, and goku absorbed the power of gods. he was fighting beerus as SSJ, his SSJ became SSG-tier, so theres no reason to ever have the transformation. its just toyotaro wanting to be unique

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>>156728549
Oh god yes!

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>>156727995
>Calling The Purple Penis, "Future Trunks"
>Calling The Blue Brat, "Kid Trunks"
Soon

>>156728547
Well, I prefer most of the original songs because I'm not a burger, but even I can't ever defend that one.
It is just so bad I remember hating this music when I was a kid, and that is impressive because I wasn't the kind of kid to hate things easily unless they were so bad I couldn't overlook it.
Even today I can barely listen to that a few seconds before muting it.

>>156728506
True, but Super has been quite schizophrenic with this formula as of late.

>>156728663
Burger here. I've watched the original funi dub and jap sub, so I'm not saying that all of the jap music is bad, and I think some of the faulconer music is unfitting and droning too, but Faulconer really improved Vegeto's fights and scenes like this: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqV-BYe8YiI
Gero just murdered a city and wacky Godzilla music plays in the jap version.

>>156728641
>Brolyna ends up overpowering her fellow LSSJ
>She can't bring herself to throw Cauli into the void
>Realizes they'd have more to gain fighting together than each other and try to gamble for their lives
>U6 and U11 team up to take down all other universes and U7

How mad would /a/ be?

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Toeishills are still insecure and still go into crying fits whenever the manga is mentioned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7op_0HLKl9c

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>>156728901
Toyocucks forever taking L's

>>156728901

They will never be able to handle the fact that Toyo's manga is a masterpiece while the anime is nothing more than cheap entertainment.

>>156728565
lol epic pasta

can't wait to post it on reddit

>>156728565
>Toyo: I know you said SSG would be never seen again but I like it a lot and I wanna use it
>Tori: Well I don't want to use it, but it looks cool so go ahead! laughs.

I bet it was something like this

>>156728942
>that bible

Are mangafags and animefags so butthurt about a cartoon?

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>>156728950
>Toyo's manga is a masterpiece

>>156728972
More like:
>Toyo: I know you said SSG would be never seen again but I like it a lot and I wanna use it
>Tori: What's SSG? Is that the one with long hair? Well I don't want to use it, but it looks cool so go ahead! laughs.

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>good at composition
what did he mean by this?

>>156728950
epic falseflagging

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I know I must stop being a lazy piece of shit but I'm a lazy piece of shit

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>>156729089
oh wait, toyo traces.
tfw toriyama is praising someone for just copying his shit.

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>>156729089

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>>156729108

>>156728799
I've listened to some of his musics out of sheer curiosity, honestly I don't think they are bad at all. I still prefer the original ones, but I don't think Faulconer's music is really bad, especially if you watch them together with the anime. They give a more serious atmosphere to Dragon Ball Z, that is for sure.
I wonder how the Black arc would've gone with his music.

>>156729089
>>156729120
thats not something to be bragging about toyo

how will toyocucks defend this?

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>>156729108
It would look far better with some shading.

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>>156728942
>>156729038
>>156729097

found the asspained toeishills

how's it feel knowing your anime is regarded as nothing more than a pathetic show for retards that not even Yugioh weebs respect?

While the manga is up there with the likes of Berserk, Vagabond, Evangelion, and Trigun

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>>156729191
TOEISHILLS ON SUICIDE WATCH!

>>156729191
>Evangelion manga
>good

What?

>>156728972
>>156729076
>but I like it a lot
Toyotaro literally said yesterday he doesn't like SSG that much because is hard to draw (skinnier but still muscular). He likes more SSB, SS3 or even SS4

>>156729191
hahahahahaha

how will Toeishills ever recover?

>another "I don't know what tracing means but I love shitposting" episode

Sad

>>156729288
Really? Where's the source? I saw an interview a couple of hours ago but I think that comment wasn't there

>>156729191
>While the manga is up there with the likes of Berserk, Vagabond, Evangelion, and Trigun

All way less sucessful than DB, even combined, not really something to be proud of.

>>156729191
>Toeishills got BTFO once again

Nothing new kek

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Thank Toyo for continuing to ruin antagonists

>>156729188
I want a line art but I'm fucking lazy and I don't even have time

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Interviewer:
> Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?

Toriyama:
> Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God.

After absorbing SSG, Goku's base became "Saiyan Beyond God". That's why SS1 (Saiyan Beyond God) Goku was able to keep up with 70% Beerus for a while. SSB is simply going SS with SSG's power (god ki).

However the (SBG) SS1 Goku vs Beerus fight, and the Champa Arc confirmed that they can control god ki at will, and don't necessarily have it activated all the time. Which is why SS1 - SS3 is still possible...and not an automatic SSB.

This is why the anime doesn't have Goku transform into SSG after BoG.

Toyotaro retconned SSG, so in the manga Goku/Vegeta still transform into SSG and there seems to be no such thing as Saiyan Beyond God in the manga continuity.

>>156729089
stucked in the same shit over and over just to not betray some fans?? what about try out new things to expand the limis? honesly tha's pretty fckng lam

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>>156729191
>While the manga is up there with the likes of Berserk, Vagabond, Evangelion, and Trigun
HAHAHAHHAHSHSH O WOW

Do Toyocucks actually believe this?

>>156729191
>Toeishills got assblasted after this post

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>156729191
Enjoy your non-canon "comicalization" found in the same promotional magazine that carries the DB Heroes manga

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>>156728750
>He doesn't trace you fool. He redraws old poses, but he doesn't trace them at all.
Do Toyocucks believe this is a better alternative?

>>156729479
its a bait, but you can that guy has a very limited taste thinking evangelion and trygun the best fo the best.

>>156729258
>>156729292
>>156729378
>>156729591
samefag

>toeishills still butthurt

For real?

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>>156729691
Try again Toeishill

>>156729288
>>156729336
Nevermind, found it

Q: How were you chosen as Toriyama's successor?
T: I presented myself to Shueisha saying I wanted to draw Dragon Ball Super, they gave me the ability to draw the series linked to the video game and after three months I was offered to draw two pages of Dragon Ball Super and that is where everything started, and I was very happy.

Q: What is the relationship between you and master Toriyama? What advice does he give you?
T: Toriyama first writes the scenario and the text, then I create the storyboard, I present it to Toriyama and Shueisha and after their approval I start to draw.

Q: Do you think you have given continuity to what Toriyama did?
T: Yes, this is a series created by Toriyama, so it has to follow its style, but I want to put some of my originality and freshness.

Q: What are these elements of originality?
T: Regarding the story, I keep the narrative arch but I put my own jokes. So Toriyama creates the main things but then I put my own, for example in the choreographies of the fights.

Q: What was the most difficult scene to accomplish?
T: The most difficult thing to accomplish was that of Volume 2, the scene in which Mai was hit and I wanted to draw Trunks desperate and furious, also because Bulma had been killed before, and also because it was revealed for the first time the new enemy, Black Goku, who had been in the shadows until then, so to astonish the readers since he has the same face as Goku.

Q: Some comments on other boards, starting with the cover.
T: Being the cover of the first volume I wanted to do something that immediately recalled Dragon Ball, and this was not Toriyama's idea but I wanted to continue his style and give a lot of movement, so I imagined Goku surfing the dragon.

>>156729592
Toyatoro in a non-stop state of wanting senpai to notice him

>>156729778
Q: This table shows a very bored Goku, did you have fun drawing him like that?
T: This scene was indicated by Toriyama: that is Goku works the earth and does not want to do it, but he does so because his wife Chi-Chi forced him, so I designed it so.

Q: This table in which Goku makes his first Kamehameha in Dragon Ball Super is very important, what did you want to stand out in this scene?
T: Kamehameha is a very important technique of Dragon Ball and is drawn many times, but this is frontal, the second and third time I drew it sideways and it was harder than the first time.

Q: In this board Goku and Vegeta face for the first time in Dragon Ball Super, did you enjoy drawing it?
T: Truth is, this scene in the storyboard was just a training between Goku and Vegeta, but to give more movement to the episode I preferred to draw it more aggressively to give more impact to the clash.

Q: In this table we see a character very similar to Freezer, among other things in one of his (Freezer's) most famous poses, was it exciting to draw it?
T: This character is another version of Freezer, which is why I wanted to give it that Freezer's pose, that's why I also drew Frost in that pose.

Q: We noticed that in Dragon Ball Super the character physiques have gone from being very muscular to slender, how come this choice? And what is the Super Saiyan form you like to draw most?
T: Yes, the style has now become slimmer and slim, in fact the Super Saiyan God was thought slim by Toriyama, so I have to design it slim but still muscular, and I find it difficult, while for the Super Saiyan Blue the appearance of the first Super Saiyan is back, in fact because of the manga being black and white it looks just like the first Super Saiyan.

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>>156729816
T: I like all Super Saiyan form, I enjoy drawing the third and fourth, but I can draw the first one better, so the blue one.

Q: Do you listen to your fans' advice? And how do you put their advice into practice?
T: I would like to be the first Dragon Ball fan, because I'm the first to want to see Dragon Ball in a way, like Goku being the strongest and so on. And since everyone loves Dragon Ball, they all have very high expectations and I try to put all of these elements up. As far as the public is concerned I can't listen to everyone, but I hope that my ideas will all satisfy them.

Q: Can you anticipate any event about Dragon Ball Super's story?
T: Suppose you have at least read Volume 2, where Black Goku appears, so we'll find out the related events. Then of course the story has to end as the original story ends, in a natural and coherent way, so at least you know that Goku, Vegeta and the others will be alive, so you surely can expect it.

Q: How do you feel like carrying out such a popular work?
T: I think Dragon Ball is still so loved because it has been seen all over the world and because all the staff that worked on it was great, so I do not want to disappoint the fans and I draw with a lot of sense of responsibility.

Q: What was the most awesome event of Dragon Ball for you?
T: I've been following Dragon Ball since I went to school, and I always drew it after breakfast. The most awesome event was when Goku transformed for the first time in Super Saiyan against Freezer, because it was first thought that it was just a boost, instead in that scene there was a transformation with a change of appearance too.

>>156729592
>Enjoy your non-canon "comicalization" found in the same promotional magazine that carries the DB Heroes manga

And yet the Dragonball Super manga doesn't credit Toei at all, it's directly owned by Shueisha and Bird Studios, unlike the anime.

>>156729773
hey i know how to use paint too.

>>156729841
Meant to tag >>156729773

>>156729860
Q: Do you have a childhood memory related to Dragon Ball?
T: My childhood memory linked to Dragon Ball is that my family organized me a party with my friends, but it was the day they Dragon Ball aired on tv, so I turned on the tv and there was the scene where kid Gohan destroys Radditz's ship and I was very angry because of the party I could not see that episode well.

Q: What is the most important teaching you got from Toriyama?
T: Toriyama did not give me some specific direct lessons, but what I perceived from him, through some interviews too, is that manga has to be fun, even if it doesn't have a particular meaning, the important thing is to entertain readers.

>>156729860
>: I would like to be the first Dragon Ball fan, because I'm the first to want to see Dragon Ball in a way, like Goku being the strongest and so on.

Dangit Toyo.

>>156729157
Falkner music would have fit the Black arc quite well I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m17qjNtTqAk

>>156730169
Faulconer is shit, Kill yourself.

>>156730039
Toyo is a Gokufag like most nips, so no surprise here.

>>156727478
Every other Goku vs Vegeta rematch never lives up to their actual first fight

All I've ever wanted is for people to see Super in the same light they see GT.

Why do people like this trash?

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>>156730207
cy moar bitch
your tears are delicious

>>156730364
It's the same thing I ask myself regarding the trash GT is

>>156730311
ikr, that looks like a light spar compared to their first fight and the buu arc one

>>156730472
At least GT had good music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umAKwU0887c

>>156727501
*stronger in some cases

>>156730364
Super manages to be one thing GT wasn't
Fun.

I mean...not the Black arc, which was a really dumb slogfest. But super tends to have a lot more fun with itself than GT did, and that's what, for me, edges it out. I'd rather see SSB Vegito complain about how preachy and over the top Zamasu is than watch SSJ4 Gogeta just "Nothing Personel" Omega Shenron.

>>156730561
Kek, all of GT's soundtracks were different renditions of Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku.

>>156730472
The thing is that people acknowledge that GT is bad but they all bothered when the same is said about GT and they treat it as being even decent at times where it hits even deeper than GT

>>156730542
Pretty sure that's because in this fight they're sparring and in BOTH of those other fights it was literally life or death.

>>156730364
Because unlike GT, in Super other characters that aren't named Goku exist

And also they're not about to fucking die of old age.

>>156730472
I mean, I'm with you on GT being trash. They're BOTH shit.

But somehow, Super is fine with people? What the fuck?

>>156730633
No it isn't.

It isn't fun at all. It's a cringey, horribly written shitshow. It physically hurts me to watch this show. On top of all that it masquerades as a sequel while simultaneously ignoring everything that made it what it was.

You are right on one thing though. The black arc was definitely the worst we've seen so far.

>>156730810
I disagree, but I mean. I guess just stop watching or reading it. DBZ's ending is iconic enough for you to just pretend the series ended there and no one would blame you.

Just like I pretend Minus didn't happen.

>>156730677
* they all bothered when the same is said about SUPER and they treat it as being even decent at times where it hits even deeper than GT

way too much GT:P

>>156729120
Pretty sure by original he means Z

>>156730983
What does that obvious observation add to this conversation?
Why did you go through the effort of posting that?

>>156731035
>Why did you go through the effort of posting that?
That can be said for most posts here.

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>>156728358
Here's the problem with that. Cabba had ONE person in mind and got Caulifla because the Saiyan he dailed was not in service at the time.

>>156731035
Thought you meant he litteraly traces over already made drawing by tori

>>156731273
That's not a problem. That's a bonus! He got a lusty chick craving for his dick

>>156731312
I meant it's a problem getting anyone else. Seems Cabba doesn't have much faith in his fellow Saiyans.

>>156728178
Yes, she's going to have an accident similar to Goku in which her personality ends up going reverse before the tournament starts.

>>156731409
Well, they are a mostly pacific race and Cabba himself is the first SSJ ever in his universe. In 7 we have 5 other saiyans and 3 of those have at least 2 levels above Cabba in transformation. He has all reasons to be worried

>>156731452
Does this accident also change her entire body structure?

>>156731500
Cabba is fucked, he should just defect to U7.

We all know Hit is gonna get destroyed by Jiren to show how strong he is.

So, uh, what's Caulifla's power level?

>>156728178
YES

>>156731500
I get the feeling that on average they're a lot stronger than their Universe 7 counterparts, but because they aren't fighting autists they don't have a lot of super strong warriors like Goku or Vegeta.

>>156731551
I dunno, if Jiren and Hit actually fight, I think Hit's Pure Progress is going to give him a bad time.

>>156731452
Not a bad theory, but I really dislike the idea of making her any similar to Goku. She doesn't that spot, any U6 counterpart to Goku deserves to be a better character than another waifubait.

>>156731608
Well, the average saiyan in u7 had a Saibaman's level of power to begin with. People like Cabba and Caulifla that honed themselves to that level have to be a very minority and even at that they never had a documented case of a saiyan reaching rage to the point of going super.

Guess we need to thank Frost for that. Controlling everyone as a superhero instead of as a tyrant had its perks in leaving everyone happy

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>>156727794
>Gohanfags think he'll ascend past Daishinken and Zeno level
>Powerlevel faggots

Neck yourself

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>>156728074
Nice

>>156731781
I just hope his next form gets rid of the look of "base form that makes him look sharper". That was dumb as fuck. Just give him a green aura or something

>>156731889
That's what Mystic Form was all about though, making him look sharper and more intimidating, but even Piccolo said that when he first unlocked Mystic Form it made him cocky and arrogant which is why he lost to Super Buu. Of course now everyone is thinking he'll get SSB mode or some shit by training with Piccolo, even though Goku and Vegeta went through hellish death training to obtain and were trained by an angel who is stronger than a God of Destruction. So not sure how training with Piccolo will really do anything.

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>>156731889
>"base form that makes him look sharper".
This is what Gohan will look like in his next form

>Tien now has a daughter

I wonder if the mum is Launch?

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>faggots in the previous thread actually think early android arc piccolo was at super saiyan level

Will Gohan use his Blazing Kamehameha?

>Gohan's Blazing Kamehameha is the fusion between Gohan23, BlazeFireXXXX, and TheUltraKamehameha. The power was so intense that it blew up Mars. It was used to defeat Vogeta. Its transformation is is twice as powerful and ripped the Milky Way apart. Vogeta was ultimately defeated by the Ultra Blazing Masenko.

>http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Gohan%27s_Blazing_Kamehameha

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>>156732401
When will Trunk's use his flame Kamehameha?

>>156732371
Prove them wrong then.

>>156728631
Except for SSG>>>"Beyond God" bullshit.

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>>156732479
I don't know but it's not as cool as Lava Goku's Blaze Kamehameha

>Blaze Kamehameha is a very, very, catastrophic Kamehameha wave. It's so intense that it can go up to 140,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 degrees fahrenheit. It can burn a black hole easily. Lava Goku uses it to kill Blizzeron.

>>156728631
>it's clear SSG isn't a real transformation outside of the ritual
Manga is canon, your headcanon is not.

>>156732630
To itself

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>>156725106
I can't wait for Tien and Roshi's episode. Also poor Launch, forever getting shafted.

>>156732657
Nah, just in general. The anime has contradicted itself enough that it's not even canon to itself. Fuck Toei.

>>156732705
She WISHES she was forever getting shafted.

>>156732705

That girl we saw in the preview could be Tiens and Launch's daughter

>>156732821
She doesn't look like either of them, though

>>156732782
What?
Regardless, good thing Lunch is never coming back to the franchise. We already have enough usleess characters, we don't to see Tien's annoying wannabe-gf again.

>>156732848
It's a sex joke.

>>156732821
No.

>>156732835

Launch had both blonde and blue hair. The mysterious girl has green hair.

Guess what colour you get when you mix blue and yellow.....

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Even if she turns out to be the bad guy of the episode, I think Tien will keep her on as a student anyway

>>156732371
The merged Super Namekian was tho

Do you think Launch will be at least mentioned next episode?

>>156731964
The series is asspulls galore anyway.

>Goten becomes Super Saiyan when training with Chi-chi

>>156733036
No. Why would she?

What's faggots obsession with Launch?

>>156733088
They want to get dominated by an aggressive girl.

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Why doesn't Goku ask Arale to join the tournament of power?

>>156733088

She was pretty hot, and it was nice that Tien had a gf for a while.

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>>156733036
No. Literally nobody cares about her anymore. Not Toei, not Toyo, and certainly not Toriyama.

I think the last thing she appeared in was the 2008 special. And she only popped up once our twice and had zero lines or interaction with any of the characters.

>>156733186
She wasn't his girlfriend, though.

>>156732535
If he gets a new form I really hope it's an extension of the "unlocked potential" form and has nothing to do with SSB.

Gohan was cool in Cell saga was because he got a new form nobody else was capable of achieving. Then later everyone else did and so Gohan becomes "yet another Saiyan amongst others". In Buu saga he's cool because he gets a strong version of base form that shoots right past SSJ forms unlocking more of his potential than those. Nobody else got it so Gohan remained unique but then fell into irrelevance because he stopped training.

Now if he gets SSB he'll again be samey with Goky and Vegeta so I really hope he gets something else instead.

>>156733186
Tenshinhan was never going out with Launch, he's gay.

>>156733170
Because gag manga rules would break the tournament.

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Can Caulifla even beat Iron Broly?

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>>156733232

No SSB?

No problem.

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>>156733224
>>156733234

According to Toriyama they lived together for a while, but it didn't work out apparently. But she still visits. Then again Toriyama makes up something new every time he's interviewed since he can't remember his own characters and story at this point so take that information with a grain of salt.

It's probably best to accept that Launch is gone and forgotten.

>>156733359
It doesn't look bad but isn't SSRose just SSBlue but with a color change due to the power of Zamasu's faggotry?

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>>156732657
Keep telling yourself that, toeicuck

>>156733462
I'm still convinced he's just fucking with everyone. He's been doing that for decades. If it was dementia he would be in an institute by now.

Vegeta needs to hurry up and get a power up that has something to do with his royal blood

>>156733489
Toriyama is glad that he doesn't have to draw DB anymore. Doesn't make Toyotaro any less of a hack.

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So who's going to be replaced by based Yamcha at the ToP?

I bet that Buu is going to get shafted again.

>>156733476

No it's not SSB. SSB is going SSJ and combining generic God Ki.

SSJ Rose is going SSJ and combining Kai-type God Ki.

I'm just saying it's possible Elder Kai seeded some of his own Kai Ki into Gohan to lay dormant until he needed it.

>>156733590
Yamcha is a joke character dude. He's staying home.

>>156733590
Tenshinhan, please.

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>>156732705
I cry for Launch and Yamcha

>>156733574
Better than you.

>>156733462
It pains me a lot when long time characters get forgotten in an anime with hundreds of episodes

>>156732705
I honestly wonder how Roshi is going to contribute. He hasn't really been relevant since DB and early DB at that. He said Goku has gotten way past him when Goku was just a kid. He did take out some Frieza corps during his revival arc but that's it.

Probably he's gonna have a unique trick or two up his sleeve and make use of having the most experience out of everyone but still be pretty weak in straight up power and get knocked out early on. I want to be wrong but I can't really see it going otherwise.

>>156728344
Oh good, someone else noticed that as well. Looks like he got decapitated.

>>156733872
Who knows? In terms of technique and skill, Master Roshi is matched by none. At least below god level.

>>156733872
Roshi will become Super Pervert God Super Pervert and distract all the opponents with porn attacks. Duh.

>>156727141
I haven't been keeping up with the anime, this form still hasn't been explained.

>>156733590

I'll call it now. It's Goku.

>>156734021
Even having kept up with the anime I have no clue what it is.

>>156733872
Power levels have been thrown out of the window, so anything i possible

>>156732705
Who?

>>156728008
Kais are a fruit that grows on trees.

>>156734083
Get back to rest Mr.Toriyama, you're senile.

>>156732371
Piccolos power level was 1.5 million when he fought Freeza so he likely doubled that power in the 4 years training for the androids, so he was probably about 3-4 million when he fought Android 20. Idiots saying he was SS level just because of vague shit Tien and Krillin said are fucking dumb.

>>156733590
I hope Buu again, i just don't care for him as a character

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>>156734168
>it's a "Androids 19 and 20 were as weak as base form Goku on Namek" episode

>>156728008
>gore
>in a kids show

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>>156726789
>jerk you off with her BBQ covered hands
>never
stop reminding me anon i'm already suffering enough!

>>156734214
Well, Base Goku did throw Gero off balance with a weak punch and he didn't even use kaioken.

>>156734307
It did no damage at all and Gero didn't even try to defend against it.
Goku then was also stronger than he was on Namek by a long shot. If they were as weak as fags like you make them out to be then Gero should have died then and there.

>>156727580
I wholeheartedly agree. I like Goku's character and he has a good thinking mind.
Goku's flanderization is the worst thing in super, I can get over powerlevels being uttely inconsistent but Goku should have stayed Goku.

>>156732583
Every version of Goku IS CUTE!

>>156734361
Hell if they were around the 10 million, even Sick SSJ Goku would have crushed them in 1 hit.

SSJ Vegeta who have killed him with a fart instead of a Big Bang Attack.

>>156734361
They were being very cautious because they believed 19 and 20 to be the big bad androids of the future. THe funny thing is, if Goku Tien and Piccolo ganged up on the fuckers then and there they would have easily beat them.

>>156733685
Funnily enough, that's the theory I think has the most credibility in terms of Gohan accessing God Ki. I mean, it would make sense that he was exposed to it by the Elder Kai.

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>>156734420
>even Sick SSJ Goku would have crushed them in 1 hit

Piccolo fucking said that Goku wasn't even using a fraction of his ki against 19.

>SSJ Vegeta who have killed him with a fart instead of a Big Bang Attack.

Vegeta let him absorb a lot of his energy.

>>156734420
Are you implying that Vegeta didn't name his farts Big Bang Attacks?
>>156734421
Being cautious doesn't mean Goku didn't clock Gero as hard as he could.

>>156734493
>Piccolo fucking said that Goku wasn't even using a fraction of his ki against 19.

Right, he is not a strong as he could be, yet you think sick Goku is around the 10 million? ergo Base Goku was at 200K? everybody would have noticed that Goku was extremely weak.

Instead everyone who was not Piccolo or Gohan was amazed at his power, even thought they saw the 150.000.000 Goku 3 years before.

>>156734652
You mean 4 years before. Goku was stronger when he made it back from Namek than he was on Namek, even if just by a little.

>>156734652
I don't think sick Goku was putting any power out at all honestly, and Vegeta was just playing with 19.

>150,000,000
Not canon
last numbers stated are 2nd Freeza's 1 million

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>>156734756
>Not canon last numbers stated are 2nd Freeza's 1 million
So are you retarded or what?

>>156734756
>>156734725
>>156734652
Are you people really still arguing about power levels
They have been thrown out of the window m8's. master roshi (power level 100) is going to be beating up goku ssj blue (power level 1 trillion) next episode

>>156734756
>Not canon
last numbers stated are 2nd Freeza's 1 million

Got it you're one of those people.

Well put Goku at 1 million which you know he isn't since he on par with Final Form Freeza, but assume Final Form Freeza is just as strong as his 2nd form and he transformed for a better look.

Goku still goes to 50 million with SSJ, unless you also think that SSJ is not x50, ok make it 21x so it's barely better that 20x Kaioken, Goku still goes to 21 million, there is absolutely no way the androids were weaker than this.

>>156734805
Second from Freeza 1 million was the last time a power level number was mentioned in the anime or manga. It's not canon.

>Tien having muscles in DB Super
uhh you're not supposed to do that

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>>156734917
Oh, you are retarded. I'll just leave this here.

>>156734890
>super
I'm talking about Z not bad fanfiction.

>>156734937
>Daishenzuu
>French bullshit
literally means nothing
Toriyama never said what Goku's SS power level was.

>>156734894
Entire point of powerlevels was that you can't rely on them, but I guess you are too autistic to comprehend that.

>>156734975
>this denial
Daizenshus explain the DBverse. They're canon and the information they got was from Toriyama. It's canon. Stay BTFO, retard.

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Soon

So yeah, it was pretty obvious that Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Buu and Piccolo would be on the team, hell I even understand why would 17, 18 and Tien be on the team, but how the hell is Krillin and Roshi stronger than anyone else in the universe???

>>156734995
You're just a retard, the reason you can't rely on powerlevels is that the earthlings could rise them at will so Freeza soldiers were shocked some guy that showed a 1000 was now a 10000, or was still at 1000 yet beating huge number guy because he raised it so fucking fast, not that they are non-existant.

>>156734894
I never said that final form Freeza was 1 million, just that its impossible to tell what his power level was. Power scaling after second form frisbee is better than slapping fucktarded pointless zeros on everything.

>its canon
Says you, kek.

>>156735079
They've killed everyone else. Frieza and the Ginyu Force were the elite powers in the universe. After them were Dabura, Buu, and then Beerus.

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>3 new episode titles revealed last week
>american "fans" make 5-10 minute long videos with theories about what the episodes might be about
>mexican fans make 15-45 hours long theories

>>156735022
>Dai "Popo had a power level of 1080" when he trained Kid Goku" Shenzuu
>Canon
kys fag

>>156735079
They could be some random guys better than Roshi or Tenshinhan or Krillin, yet who is going to recruit them?

Beerus is just emo eating before dying, and Kaioshin is useless.

Goku recruits his friends.

>>156734945
>People think Z isn't bad fanfiction of the original DB

kek

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>>156735226
Z is one of the highest rated shounens of all time.
Super is just a dumpster fire.

>>156735178
>I don't like it so it's not canon
btfo

Things Super royally fucked up in

>Lack of power level consistency
>Taking 88 episodes for Gohan to be relevant again
>Gohan trains with Piccolo for 4 hours to get his Kai Ki again
>28 planets with life all of U7
>SSB Gokus attack power has no implosiveness whatsoever
>SSB Goku can match wits with Android 17
>Gohan jobs to Krillin
>Frieza trains for 4 months by himself is stronger then Goku who trained for 10+ years with gods and angels
>Goten and Trunks havent aged
>SS2 False God Trunks form absorbing a Spirit Bomb attack that turned
into a shining God Ki Sword that sliced Zamasu in half
>Bringing back Future Trunks and making his hair Blue
>Flanderizing Gokus characterization by making him an idiot that likes to fight
>Planet sized dragonballs exist and were somehow made by giant sized Namekians???

>>156735097
The reason is technique and skills you dumb autist. Altering your power is just a part of it.

>>156735295
¡Totalmente de acuerdo, amigo! XD

>>156735293
Multiverse and AF are more canon that Daishenzuu

>>156735295
>making his hair Blue
His hair has always been blue friend.

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>>156735349
btfo

>>156735338

Mi no hablo mexicano, puto

>>156735295
It's all true but they'll just pout like dumb toddlers and call you a spic

>>156735375
Its purple in DBZ, and in that Bojak movie. Kid Trunks hair is still purple. Dont give me that bullshit that his hair color changes as he ages.

>>156735322
Remember when Goku went from btfo by Vegeta to beat him cleanly?

He definitely got him with his superior skill, not thanks to a tech that multiplies all your stats, nothing about increasing his power level.

When Bulma read 18K, 19K, 20K on her scouter it was probably just Goku's skill number.

And of course we can't forget that moment when Vegeta became a giant monkey and increased his skill by 10 times.

>>156735295
>>Planet sized dragonballs exist and were somehow made by giant sized Namekians???

This would be pretty cool, but no they were created by some dragon god.

>>156735602
>dragon god
It's hilarious how fucktarded that is considering the namekians used their magic to make the dragons and the dragon balls.

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TAAAAKE THISS!!!!

SHININGU FURASHU!!!!

>>156735540
Both are bad.

Left to to saturated in color for such a grim scene

Right is over use of resources while using the crappy 90s artstyle

>>156735540

Jesus Christ, the animators just blantantly forgot the hair of Future Trunk's hair color. Also Super's animation team of a severe deficit in not understanding how lighting and shadows work. Its like this shit show was animated by middle schoolers

>>156735192
Well, that actually sounds convincing, still this will only make Kaioshin looks like a sissy faggot, even more than before.
>better than Tenshinhan
Come on, Tenshinhan power is maximunm.

>>156735750

90s animation will always be superior to the animation of today.

>>156735754
>the animators just blantantly forgot the hair of Future Trunk's hair color
It was Toriyama who made his hair blue, stupid.

>>156735750
cel animation is superior

>>156735750
wtf I love super now

>>156727190
what if dragon ball was about super powered salary men getting into brutal fights to protect their jobs?

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>>156735750
>crappy 90's artstyle
you are living cancer in human form

>>156735192
>Kaioshin is useless
At least he tried

>>156733590
>>156727190
>17 and Gohan are getting too much hype because they're probably going to be somewhat relevant in the tournament.

Makes sense considering both are besides Goku and Vegeta respectively.

>>156726789
>this is what dragonball designs have become

kill me now.

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Now that the dust has settled, I think we can all agree that at the end of the day she was a good mother and wife.

>>156736132
Yes.

>>156726789
Tell me doctor, where are we going this time? Is this the 90's or 2017?

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>>156736132

She was a good fuckhole for Gohan

>>156736132
her tard rage made gohan what he is

>>156735893
Dr. Gero created the ultimate lifeform for creating anime named Perfect Cel.

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>>156736198

So absolutely based?

>>156736186
Gohan wishes he was half the man that Goku is.

>>156736186
That artist needs to make more.

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>>156736132
Don't know about mother since she was a bit over the top sometimes, especially when it came to Gohan. But as a wife Goku is lucky he has her. I doubt any women in all 12 universes would be able to put up with Goku and still love him at the end of the day like she does.

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>>156736265
yep

>>156736284
>"artist"

>>156736198
>a superhero with a job, a cute wife and a super cute baby

Chichi a best

more like Dragon Ball Jewper

please tell me you aren't handing your shekels over for this

>>156735295
>Lack of power level consistency
Well that's your opinion. Personally I think the power levels have been justified well enough so far
>Taking 88 episodes for Gohan to be relevant again
Gohan's arc has been handled really well. Yeah it took 88 episodes but that made it feel like a real accomplishment at the end of a character arc that involved Gohan growing as a character through his experiences.
>Gohan trains with Piccolo for 4 hours to get his Kai Ki again
Gohan had already been training on his own, he was already strong physically but he was still not in the right state mentally to tap into his Ultimate power, Piccolo just gave him that push he needed to change his perspective and regain that power.
>28 planets
Again, this being a 'fuck up' is your personal opinion
>SSB Gokus power
Opinion
>SSB Goku can match wits with 17
Not even sure what this is supposed to mean or why it's supposed to be bad
>Gohan jobs to Krillin
To demonstrate that this is a ring out tournament where the rules are very different to a contest of pure power. There was nothing wrong with Krillin being able to knock Gohan down with a cheap shot from behind while he was blinded
>Frieza trained for 4 months by himself
This was explained and justified in the show and the movie. Whether or not it's an adequate explanation is again, your personal opinion
>Goten and Trunks
This one I will give you, they really should look older by now. Hopefully they'll do some form of short time skip and fix it but ultimately its a very small part of the series so I don't really care that much.
>Blah, Blah, Blah I didn't like how Trunks beat Zamasu
Opinion
>Future Trunks
Opinion
>Flanderizing
Opinion
>Planet sized dragon balls exist
Yes, created by the Dragon God, you know, the huge Gold dude that came out of them for the wish? The Namekians gained the ability to create their own dragon balls from the Super Dragon Balls in the first place. The gods like the Namekians because they're peaceful and wise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTpgbbHgkKE

>>156728942
Anime black seems more like Zamasu in gokus body while manga black seems more like an evil goku.

If you ask me, I'd prefer an evil goku, but the manga hasn't done a good job of it either.