How do we avoid the sukebei-nyaa fiasco from ever happening again?

>>156704026
Go outside.

Regular backups.

So how do copyright holders make the argument that torrent sites are illegal when torrents themselves only point to particular files?

>>156704253
Don't tell me how to live, CR employee

>>156704026
Piracy sites dying and being replaced almost immediately is part of the natural cycle. Dont try and stop it. Look how far we've come since napster.

>>156704026
>P2P
That's basically torrent, you goddamned idiot.

>>156704397
Anime was mostly left alone though.

The highest profile takedown before Nyaa was fucking Onemanga.

is there a good guide on usenet?
how private or anonymous is it? at least semi?

>>156704026
Magnet links.

It's simple.

Have a list that constantly updates with a bunch of magnet links. The list is a text file containing the links. Have a torrent program that adds the master list, and people search for the links in the torrent program.

Nobody one person is hosting anything that links to piracy shit or anything like that so there is no way to "take it down." There is no central thing to take down.

We just need to start using magnet links for everything. Instead of a site where we download torrents, we should be using sites that simply catalog magnet links. They take one down? Mirror it somewhere else.

>>156704418
There was no takedown on nyaa. The owner just shat his pants and killed off everything before anything even happened yet.

>>156704322
In some countries, the act of giving people access to the copyrighted content is illegal.

>>156704450
Magnet links don't protect anyone, it's the index that they target not the torrents.

>>156704450
Don't host it on a site. Host master text files that contain all the magnet links themselves and search through them locally.

>>156704486
Its not about protection but decentralisation.

>>156704513
Someone has to connect the users.

Magnets.

Go with Magnets.

>>156704526
A text file containing magnet links hosted on that text site. Whatever the hell it's called.

>>156704537
Fucking magnets. How do they work?

Fucking Magnets. How do they work?

>>156704527
Kill yourself

>>156704527
And this is not reddit, go away

>>156704565
>>156704573
That hivemind

>>156704565
>05/03/17(Wed)02:25:35

>>156704573
>05/03/17(Wed)02:25:51
Whoah

>>156704486
Who said anything about protecting anyone? I don't give a shit about that. The advantage of magnet links is they work just fine without a tracker and even if the site goes down, you can still download your shit. Since everything is just text strings, we could even just make pastebins full of magnet links for shit.

>>156704503
Too annoying, unless the text files had a standard format and someone coded up a program to search through them.

>>156704513
Torrents are already decentralised. These are the things you should consider:

>Torrent trackers themselves are safe
There are a shitton from openbittorrent to copper etc these are NOT targetted

>Indexes are targetted
These are 'torrent sites' aka nyaa or bakabt.

>To seed, end users sacrifice anonymity
Yes you can 'buy' anonymity with a VPN or a server but you need to give details in order to buy them. Also someone whether it's you or the person running the server is going to get DMCA notices. VPN providers would eat it as a business cost.

>Indexes have a paper trail
You need a site to host on and to buy both the domain name and the server you have to sacrifice your anonymity.Also someone whether it's you or the person running the server is going to get DMCA notices. Get too many notices and your server will shut you down regardless of how good you are.

>in order to attract dedicated uploaders and dedicated seeders it needs to be visible
If you host your tracker index on p2p darknet underneath 500 passworded proxies no one will know it exists or bother to upload.

>PEOPLE ARE GIVING UP MONEY, ELECTRICITY AND/OR BANDWIDTH TO SEED
There's always a cost involved and if people think that no one is downloading (eg the torrents are on a text file) you can't expect anyone to seed indefinitely.

>>156704026
Just make backups.

>>156704527
Kill yourself.

>>156704026
We have all of those things already, you dumb nigger. Our eggs weren't in one basket, that's why nothing was lost. Now fuck off.

>>156704653
What fucking job do you have?

>>156704402
>Perfect dark

has this ever been released outside Japan?

If it's as-advertised then it could be even better than torrents!

Batches of magnet links are retarded and don't accomplish the same goal Nyaa does

One of the great parts about Nyaa was the comments section to let you know whether or not the subs were any good. And they also came with other info about the encode.

Unless you're just ripping from Crunchy like HS does then there's no way you're gonna know what to expect, and even then their translations are still up for scrutiny when you have shit like demi chan.

>>156704618
The entire point is to code a program to search through them.

>>156704670
Software engineer... which, if you know how to magnet torrents or whatever, you can probably also do

>>156704693
>One of the great parts about Nyaa was the comments section
No.

>>156704680
The reason why private trackers is preferable to Perfect Dark is because a whole bunch of retards love uploading child porn to Perfect Dark and consequently bits of it will be in your Unity folder (a forced 40 GB you have to share to use the program) for the feds to find if you are arrested.

>>156704693
>One of the great parts about Nyaa was the comments section to let you know whether or not the subs were any good.

Who cares about that.

> And they also came with other info about the encode

You can include that in metadata in the txt.

the txt files can be databases and you can give space for certain types of metadata like titles and whatever. It's how you would search for the magnets in the first place.

>>156704680
The downside of Perfect Dark is it requires at least 40GB of disk space to store the distributed hash table. Otherwise it works great. Still not entirely safe, but nothing ever is.

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>>156704693
>One of the great parts about Nyaa was the comments section

ipfs is the solution

https://ipfs.io/

>>156704707
Ok herkz

>>156704750
is that why it's trash?

>>156704493
Aren't the rulings for everything under the jurisdiction of EU courts? Also what's the extent of the new rulings?
I liked the 'wild west' aspect of growing up in Bolanda and not giving a fuck about pirating everything and anything (or buying bazaar bootlegs) but I think that's becoming a thing of the past.

>>156704699
average salary for a software engineer is like 1/3 of what you make

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I knew this day would come. There will come a time where I'll be able to sell my hard drives full of anime. Time to go back to IRC

>>156704693
Comments sections are on every torrent website.
They're always there because it encourages people to upload if people write nice things about them.

>>156704026

>GNUnet (perfect dark clone?)
sharing space with 3D pedos? lolnope
>IRC/mIRC
tried and true method, but too complicated for neo-a
>USENET
also tried and true but costs money - defeats the purpose of downloading FOR FREE
>VPN
any anon who has yet to subscribe to this is asking for trouble
>private tracker
muh sekrit klub meme
>XDCC
lolwat

>>156704527
Fuck off

>>156704774
quality is decent

>>156704820
You have no fucking idea what you are talking about, shut up.

>>156704820
>neo-a
>a
Fuck off, retard.

>>156704436

All the clients that download magnets have spyware or wiretap protocols that leak your privacy information. You have to do it over VPN to be safe, and there's no guarantee even a paid VPN (like HideMyAss) still won't sell you out. You're safe in the US for now, but do it in the EU and Interpol will be knocking on your door within hours.

Torrents were still targeted because even in a world where media powerhouses successfully sold to the public that streaming was better than torrents, it's still seen as a massive threat and other p2p software isn't.

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>>156704820
Embarrassing

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>>156704527

>>156704874
>All the clients that download magnets have spyware or wiretap protocols that leak your privacy information
Do you have any actual proof under that tinfoil hat of yours?

>>156704762
Not gonna lie, that is some cool shit; still wouldn't protect people sharing files, but if they really want to go after someone, nothing will.

So do we know if Nyaa will come back or not yet? I know we need to figure something else out, be it a mirror or what have you.

>>156704905
Based mods deleting the fucking shill.

>>156704874
>All the clients that download magnets have spyware or wiretap protocols that leak your privacy information.

Jesus christ what the fuck? What is it with this thread and absolutely uninformed morons pretending they are experts on shit they know nothing about?
Hey idiot, you use the exact same torrent clients you always used for magnet links, there is no need for a dedicated magnet link client.

>>156704845
better stream sites exist, and torrenting reigns superior over all.

>>156704910
No, he's a fucking moron.
All P2P systems will always leak your IP address, but nothing more than that.

>>156704874
But that is true even with how things work currently. What we are trying to do is have a decentralized service that cannot be taken down because any one person is targeted, meaning it's not useful to target anyone.

>>156704944
Torrenting is superior, but what sites have better stream quality then Kiss?? I don't know if there are any that even have a half of the library,

>>156704527
>not available in your country

>>156704917
Even torrents hardly protected people sharing files. But IPFS is a step up, more or less.

>>156704470
So all Internet Service Providers should be illegal.

>>156705008
Well, I didn't say the law made sense, perhaps it's services that are specifically meant to illegally access copyrighted material?

>>156704874

is that related to this new revelation?

https://torrentfreak.com/fbi-uses-bittorrent-to-find-and-catch-child-porn-offenders-170415/

>>156704470
How is that legally defensible? Why can't you sue google for indexing the sites? Or the ISP for giving them the internet to download the shit from?

>>156705041
As I said here
>>156705022
It's probably narrower in scope than I originally saiud

>>156704864

This should be the default reply for every post on this website.

>>156704820
>IRC/mIRC
>tried and true method, but too complicated for neo-a
>XDCC
>lolwat

wait you call someone neo-a for not knowing IRC and in the same breath you laugh at XDCC? do you not understand that XDCC is just a method for downloading things from bots over IRC you terminal newfaggot?

>>156704864
>You have no fucking idea what you are talking about

disprove what I said one by one
otherwise you're just trolling

>>156704026
>GNUnet (perfect dark clone?)
It's where /g/ stores their autism. When they tell you that you need to "compile" a Linux operating system, you need to go to GNUnet to get it.

>>156704322
Because Jews have both political and economic power in every Western country, and they say that it's so.

>>156705041
Companies have sued google for indexing sites but google is big with big legal teams, and they respond to dmca takedown requests, which is amusing since you can just find the url in their takedown notice. Many laws are stupid but that won't protect you from them.

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>>156704820
>>156705115

I have never used IRC or XDCC before today, I didnt even know what they were exactly.

I still managed to figure it out and download some anime

>>156704322
because it would be very expensive to arrest every person with 'illegal' files

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>>156705158
in the context of everything else being spewed in this thread, it is not outside the scope of possibility that you actually believe whatever you think you just said
this horrifies me

>>156704762
Do we have an /a/ ipfs... thing?

So will there be collusion now between subgroups in an easily identified place for who subs what and who hosts so we can at least find their IRCs or magnets easily?

>>156704725
>Who cares about that.
Clearly the person you're replying to, since he said it was the "great part" about Nyaa.
How autistic are you?

>>156704758
I remember I posted a comment in one of the sub files someone posted recently that the sub had some timing issues, and the next day they posted a v2, so yes, the comments section is useful.

>>156705231
I remember using a site to find who was subbing what, and it would direct you to their website

This was before I started using nyaa. Anyone know what im talking about?

>>156704026
hsoted in such a developed third world country, prefer the asianic one

>inb4 why?

lack of teh gut to enforce the related law

>>156705273
https://fansubdb.com/wiki/Spring_2017
this?

So, on what site will I now find anime openings and endings in .flac? Seems bakabt is down for me too.

>>156705273
whiners.pro?
shut down for tld abuse because they weren't pro enough
this wasn't before nyaa really though, was it?

>>156705309
Who fucking cares?

>>156705175
Can you fags stop crying about Jews for even one second?

We turn to terrorism, invade Somalia to host our server, and develop nuclear weapons to protect our anime.

Will pantsu cat allow uploading new torrents?

>>156705273
I think Anichart should add this feature.

>>156705309
reddit

>>156705362
Where on that accursed site do i find that? Is there some anime openings subreddit?

>>156705237
Your post is irony.

>>156705330
The fucking person in >>156704322 asked a straight-forward question. I gave a straight-forward answer. Don't accuse me of "crying" just because I'm answering truthfully.

>>156705385
No, it isn't.

>>156705415
Yes, it is.

>>156705175
Japan actually has a bigger stick up their ass about piracy than any "Western" country.
Or at least they did until the UK decided to match them.

>>156705378
In my experience I found a secret chinese forum that had all the clean openings and endings for Aldnoah zero but I forgot to bookmark it and lost it.

Maybe try the m2ts/ISO if your internet speed can sustain it?

>>156705428
Jews have a lot of leverage over Japan, my friend. Don't for a second think that they are an independent nation.

>>156705395
>how do they...
>because Jews
That's not an answer to the question you delusional faggot

While it's not the most user-friendly, XDCC is probably the best option using existing software.
I doubt that the IRC server would get taken down and if it does it takes only minutes to set up a new one, everyone connects their bots to the new server and you're back up within a day.

>>156705273
baka-updates was shut down, only the manga portion is left

>>156705444
>m2ts/ISO
You lost me there.
(I got 100/100 so I assume it could)

>>156704026
Lucky I stopped watching at the right time.

Anime is ded.

>>156705453
>"BECAUSE JEWS"
Yeah, that's exactly what I said, word-for-word, huh.

>>156705428
I can imagine it going this way pretty much everywhere soon. Just wait until physical media is completely phased out.

>>156705451
>if it wasn't for DEE JOOS Japan would be a pirate haven
sounds legit

>>156705460
Where does your confidence come from?

>>156705472
it's the first two words and the remainder is always the same with you sluts

>>156705354
doubt it
anichart and livechart are going legit now

>>156704026
If the EU closes down, then all EU laws and courts will also stop being in effect.

>>156704714
Has anyone actually investigated how the unity works in perfect dark? According to Wikipedia it's a mixnet. So that means that you don't necessarily have other people's files per se. You just have an encrypted message that's impossible for you to decrypt. And you don't know where it came from, or who it's going to because you're only one link in the chain from sender to recipient. Also you have no control over who you peer with.

Honestly perfect dark is seeming like the most viable alternative at this point. Yeah you have to have 40 GB of unity but that's tiny these days.

>>156705466
What I mean to say is...
When you download a BDRip or a DVDrip sometimes it contains extras and sometimes it doesn't. Usually it doesn't.

However, the untouched rip comes in a certain file format. I can't remember what all of them are called but typically these are m2ts files, VOB files and several other formats. These discs should contain the extras.

So the alternative of trying to find the clean endings and openings is to try and find the full disc.

>>156705466

not him but that is a 1:1 bluray rip

>>156705491
Confidence in what?

>>156705484
>>156705500
Keep strawmanning. That makes what you said into an actual argument, fuckwad.

>>156705273
I think you're talking about AnimeSuki or >>156705463

>>156705273
MAL also sometimes has the subbers listed. I think that was before they became greedy fuck sellouts.

>>156705522

I hear that Perfect Dark is basically just an improved version of Share, another japan p2p

>>156705524
Oh yeah, those file extensions. Thanks for reminding me.
Hm, could do that of course.

>>156705526
Cheers.

>>156704322
Similar principle where if you drive a murderer to a murdered's house, you are liable for homocide committed by the murderer.

Ofcourse this exonerates the public servants and strangers and unknown factors.

>>156705502
TPB was targeted by the US and Sweden without any help from the EU (in fact, they hid behind EU laws in their defense, in vain.)
UK passed a draconian anti-piracy bill all on its own.

>>156705535
It's not a strawman when it's an accurate representation of your argument

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>>156705547
>AnimeSuki

I'm working something that turns XDCC files into magnet links with some sort of searchable interface. It's not ready yet.

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>>156705676
I used to use Animesuki back in 2005-2006. I think I still have that old account there and everything.

It was pretty good for Saimoe and other stuff at the time.

>>156704874
>but do it in the EU

Has there ever been a case of someone getting in legal trouble for downloading anime in EU?

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>Applyed to anibyts years ago when Nyaa went down for a while
>Never used it once it came back up
>Account is now deactivated from inactivity
I wonder if they'll let me reactivate it. Maybe I should just wait this thing out.

>>156705753
illegal streaming can land you in jail in EU now

>>156704874
'Paid VPNs' actually pay money for a huge number of servers to run their VPNs and most servers have your data not the company who owns the VPN service. The people who sell the server service to the VPN company won't necessarily care or even necessarily care about your privacy.


>>156705784
Reactivation on animebytes is literally controlled by a bot.

Reactivation on any other website would result in song and games of months spent in an IRC waiting for a faggot to show up at the other end, having to explain yourself and in any top tier tracker more than a year of inactivity/lack of proper reason would result in a lost account.

>>156704762

IPFS would be ideal, but has no ecosystem. Without easy to use clients for Windows, Mac, Linux and Android/iOS that encourage users to pin the content they consume it's dead in the water.

>>156705753
I would doubt it. Anime is largely irrelevant to the crackdowns that tend to occur. If Nyaa had been forced to shut down one day, it would probably have been due to linking to music owned by Sony Media or something

>>156705789
>streaming
>streaming normie shit
Good riddance really

>>156705789

Yes but I'm wondering whether they'll go through with prosecution of small cases or whether this is all supposed to be a 'big threat' to us

>>156704557
Im not tech savvy, but can't anons just start throwing up sites like pastbin and using that to propagate magnet links?

>>156705824
Oh thank god. Hope isn't lost after all.

>>156704026
>GNUnet (perfect dark clone?)
It's a meme
>IRC/mIRC
While it can be used it's still slow
>USENET
paying money
>VPN
What?
>private tracker
I oppose closed access.
>P2P
Slow and it's now different than torrenting.
>XDCC
Slow bots, need large bandwidth
>magnets
This is the best option.

The solution I suggest is decentralized indexer, Blockchain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain

>>156705872
You shouldn't have a problem unless it's something ridiculous, a lot of people in past threads reactivated their AB accounts.

Private tracker account reactivation autism is basically because people sell accounts. Sold accounts can end up in the RIAA/other people's hands.

Most other sites probably have a person responsible for reactivation to make sure you are who you claim to be (your IP location, what sort of things you like to download, etc)

>>156704322
If I set up a meeting in my house for people to sell contraband to other people, I'm not in the clear just because I'm not selling it myself.

Couldnt get into AB in like 2011 I doubt I will now, fuck them

>>156704026
Not having a single point of failure.

GOD DAMN IT NYAA ISN'T DEAD YOU FUCKING RETARDS
IT'S GONNA COME BACK IN A FEW DAYS
STOP MAKING THOSE FEARMONGERING THREADS, YOU STUPID FUCKING CRETINS
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE FINE ALRIGHT

>>156706076
I wish anon, I wish.

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he best option was proposed a few years back when TPB was shutdown for the first time.

An application that provided P2P indexer, and started a webserver on localhost for the WebUI to navigate the indexer.

>>156706076
If it won't be fine, we'll have a replacement. If it will be fine, we'll have a functional backup.

There's no downside for contingency measures.

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>>156706076

>>156706076
This. The owner simply pull the plug. If Nyaa refuse to turn it on, he can just give it to someone else who live in non-police state to host.

Do you think Nyaa just got tired of all the legal trouble that came with running the site for years and just decided to shut it all down and disappear?

>>156705753
There was a case of someone getting in jail for torrenting 3D CG OreImo fan porn video in Russia.

>>156706178
Why not just move the site to Russia where they simply don't give a shit?

>>156706185
>3D CG OreImo fan porn

He deserved it

>>156706194
They do give a shit about child porn, though. Ukraine is a better choice. There are no laws there.

>>156706231
Hm, fair point.
Why not move it to Ukraine then and just chill?

>>156706231
There was no CP in nyaa, and there shouldn't be

>>156706284
Fairly certain they had underage gravure stuff. Like, REALLY underage.

>>156706231
>move it to Europe
>good
Why not one of those lawless states in Africa? or China?

Bear in mind I have absolutely no fucking idea how most of that stuff works.

The only problem I see is that we've lost index and comments, because people still seed those torrents. Wouldn't a solution that still relied on torrent network as method of distributing content, but provided end to end encryption (so gubmint and corporations can't sue people seeing how all they host is encrypted blocks, unity file style) and indexing (website? separate app?) be a viable replacement?

Basically it's not to protect data from being lost/hijacked, but from people hosting either data, db, or index from being sued, which is the only real, tangible danger.

>>156706343
>lawless states in Africa
No internet
>china
censorship

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>all that hentai I will never be able to find again because LO content is purged everywhere

>>156704917
>nothing will
Wrong.
Freenet will.
Tribler will (eventually).

Basically anything that anonymizes the end-user could do that.

>>156706358
China complies with takedown requests made by the US etc.

>>156706343
Because niggers might decide server farms are tool of evil spirits and destroy them. Or just raid and scrap them, because they're dumb niggers.

As for China, you have to bear in mind Chinese government would be as happy to shut those down as Western.

What's the size of Nyaa DataBase?

>>156706392
You might be right about the niggers trying to free the souls trapped in devil boxes, I figured China might turn a blind eye if they knew it meant Japan wasn't getting money for shit.

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>>156706392
>Because niggers might decide server farms are tool of evil spirits and destroy them.
Holy fuck anon I love it I actually wonder what would happen if they found out there was some mystical box that has all of the information of the world in it

How old was Nyaa? I can't recall when I first went there.

>>156705008
Mens Rea, my autistic friend.

>>156706447
More like they'd use it as a tool to try repairing relationships
You kind of have to realize that geopolitically, having Japan not mad as fuck at them is good for China, and the people in charge of the country aren't overly concerned with what the masses think there.

We can't. Centralization is inevitable in all things.

>>156706447
Only if it turns political China might tell Japan to fuck off. As long as it's feud between corporations (money has no national pride), they'll comply with DMCA.

>>156706475
No matter how stupid you think African niggers are, they'll find a way to show you the unending abyss of their retardation. It's like every time they're at the bottom of humanity, they steal a shovel and begin to dig deeper.

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>going into shutdown panic mode instead of giving any fucking notice beforehand

>>156705175
Shut up, Ahmed, go back to your nazi bonehead friends on /pol/. Adults are discussing adult problems here.

>>156706533
Im suprised they'd steal a shovel instead of using someones skull they found as a mystical tool that makes them better at digging.

HorribleSubs on Twitter just now:

>update: just got word from a >reputable source that Nyaa >confirmed that he's shutting down >NT for good. yes it was due to the >EU ruling.

>>156706625

Sorry for the shit formatting, using a mobile phone right now

>>156706625
Shieeet.

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>>156705273
It is kinda obvious. If you shout "Jump" to a suicider, you can be charged of homicide. Facilitating crime is crime per see.

That being said, the whole concept of intellectual property and "stealing" something that can be copied without a original is retarded. Capitalism is stupid.

>>156706549
Any notice could have been interpreted as collusion. In this case it'd be better to shut down the site, and then anonymously relay db to other source, which publishes it later as a "haxx" or "leak". Then just wait for mirrors to pop up.

>>156706624
Saharan niggers eat their dead. There's nothing to eat (except humanitarian aid and missionaries) otherwise, and since they shit to the same hole they take water from, living to the ripe age of 8 is like a middle age crisis.

>>156706625
https://twitter.com/HorribleSubs/status/859693915720474624

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It's really over

Goddamn nigga, you couldn't have at least given a warning

Taiwan is a unique country in the world because China refuses Taiwan to gain legitimacy in anything.

This means Taiwan does not belong to the Berne Convention.

Copyright in Taiwan is also kinda ambiguous because like I said, China doesn't let Taiwan gain legitimacy in anything, even the Olympics.

>>156706675
>since they shit to the same hole they take water from,

The fuck?

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IT'S ALL OVER

>>156706625
Damn.

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>>156706677
this is what I get for wishing to see the end of the world before I got on 4chan today

>>156706720
I have just realized that HS avatar is Yugi's head, not a cannabis leaf.

I hope this sissy faggot admin gets DDOS'd for life by some autistic weeb

Fucking panicking pussy retard

>>156706194
Russia forced it's ISP's to block rutorrent
>>156706549
Looks more like he ragequitted, this probably was the last straw for him
I mean, they get a terrorist attack like everyday, and there's always weird shit like mass rapes committed by refugees and weird sadistic stuff done by finns

When the apocalypse arrives, we will be survivors given how many world ending disasters we have seen.

>>156706780
He didn't tell any of his staff and just decided to quit all of a sudden and go dark.

HOW LONG UNTIL EU DIES

>>156706787
Anon, stop trying to redpill in this thread. Its a time for grieving.

>>156706672
IP laws could be made in reasonable and limited ways. It's just that corporate interests have made sure they aren't.

>>156704026
The solution is pretty simple:
Host a server in whatever country you want to index magnets links.
Allow access only though Tor/I2P hidden services.
Peer discovery will be done through PEX/DHT.
The admin doesn't have to worry about inane laws, DMCAs, DNS, SSL/TLS, etc.

>>156704453
Well in his defense it was probably in his best interest to to shut it down at the first sign of trouble instead of waiting to get arrested. I mean look what happened with KickAss Torrents.

>* __ar has changed the topic to: latest update: nyaa sent an email and confirmed it's gone for good. and yes, it was due to the EU ruling. and no, db is almost surely wiped.
Look in the #NyaaTorrents IRC channel

>>156704699
I make $7 in a fucking hour.

>>156704820
>XD
Get the fuck out

>>156706780
What would you if given a choice between shutting your weeb site or life time in prison?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZNe10q0reA&t=168

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I miss nyaa

I blame the jews

>>156706813
10 to 15 years depending on immigrant birth rates.

I think we're mostly okay outside of more niche stuff and sukebe and rare games, artbooks, audio cds but I'm mostly confident a lot of it can be found else where, and /g/ anon made that backup up to a month back so I see no reason to worry

What I don't understand is why wasn't there any warnings about nyaa being taken down if the law was passed?

People would have magnets for most releases up and people would be scraping nyaa like mad. Not to mention Sukebei which is the biggest loss from this. Taking down nyaa is one thing but sukebei is just not replaceable.

>>156706959
BitTorrent was invented by a Jew you stupid cuck.

>>156706995
Because the admin is a fucking retard.

>>156705008
The law pressures service providers to provide the information about who is doing it to the authorities. It's the same kind of thing as mega upload.

>>156707023
Largest anime tracker run by a retard.
Sasuga anime community

>>156706994
There is a lot of content that isn't on other sites even AB nyaa wasn't just for anime either there was a ton of liveaction/dramas that aren't on avistiaz. Not to mention all the olld releases from groups that died and all the BD/DVD ISOs

>>156705309
bakabt will soon be back dont worry

>>156706144
>>156706076
Until everyone thinks this forever, then no backup is made.

>>156706343
>>156706392
Colombia is the ideal country. They hate the US and don't give a shit to the EU and strict capitalist law while having barely minimum infrastructure stability and no natural or socio-political dangers around then.

>>156706995
This, literally what the fuck, is there any reason why there is no warning at all.

My fucking porn games.

>>156707047
Hopefully.

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>>156707056
>Colombia
>no [...] socio-political dangers

>>156707046
it's not like anyone was seeding that shit anyway, I have stuff that I was hoping to download that just stayed stuck at 0.00% for years

>>156707044
Virtually all of these sites are run by retards, just look like sadpanda, they have a fucking ponyfucker as admin who pruned all the licensed shit during the whole Fakku drama, meanwhile any other site hosting them is still unharmed

The /g/ backup is not going to last long at all people have started to remove torrents and not seed anymore because they don't think anyone can access the torrents anymore.

>>156704026
We simply need to neutralize the Jews.

>>156706846
No, the whole concept of IP should be destroyed. Inventors and creators should only be rewarded by their academic work or a donationware system in case of entertainment.

>>156707056
Colombia is the greatest US ally in Latin America, they're literally full of American military bases
You're confusing them with Venezuela, which isn't anywhere stable enough to be a reliable place nowadays, specially nowadays when other countries would go as far as blocking then due to muh sanctions
>>156707132
No one has done this retard, DHT and PeX still get you peers, I'm literally seeding a 7 year old torrents from Nyaa right now

>>156707104
Not true, I can think of quite a few old gg eclipse KAA etc releases that were still seeded and not available elsewhere.

The only good thing that will come from this is the next big thing will only have batches in good quality for old shows. People will ditch their tv releases.

>>156707073
Well, apart from drug traffic. Social syndicalist movements on latin america are a joke, there will never be any civil war in any country around here.

>>156707188
>No one
>I haven't
Not the same thing, people will start to remove nyaa torrents from their clients regardless of what you think.

>>156707200
who is going to go through one by one just to prune tv releases when there's millions of files on there?

>>156707218
>continent with more civil wars per capita than any other on earth
>there will never be any civil war in any country around here
OK...

>>156704026
Stop being an idiot

>>156707230
Not sure what you mean, I just meant that people wont bother uploading single episode torrents of tv encodes to the next alternative. It will have BD batches etc instead and not be bloated with sub-par releases.

>>156707200
I can confirm to that. I often downloaded better versions of very old shitty .avi rips of mine from nyaa from torrents over 10 year old.

>>156707286
why not, most people on nyaa watch stuff weekly, no one is going to wait for a batch of bds to come out to watch a show

>>156707286
>not be bloated with sub-par releases.
I don't know what is worse, sub-par amateur encoders, or retarded elitists bloated FLAC CRF 14 encoders with 2gb per episode on an upscale.

>>156707294
Yes I managed to replace quite a few mp3 yellow hardsubbed releases with vorbis hardsubs on some obscure 80s anime. AB BBT etc does not keep all releases either and sometimes they do not pick the best release to keep.

>>156707229
They will remove them as they would normally, the swarms won't die off just because Nyaa isn't around
DHT and PeX proved themselves years ago

>>156707352
There is nothing wrong with yellow hardsubs (or as I like to call them, prosubs).

Move server to commie land.

>>156707309
Obviously im refering to old shows. Nyaa was still full of old tv releases because groups wouldn't delete anything even if they do a batch many years later. So it just started to get full of single episode releases and the only way to sort it was to use the file-size filter

Instead of only hosting Nyaa in one country why don't we just host Nyaa in all country around the world? Yes, even in Papua New Guinea.

>>156707415
I woudn't call that a huge problem, it was annoying sometimes but only shows from a specific era were really affected and like you said you could just sort it to the biggest releases with most seeders and you were fine, worst case you'd just go to another site, for posterity's sake to it's not a bad idea to keep tv releases for some shows, like Madoka's releases that had the morning rescue commercials in them.

>>156707337
I hate FLAC as well but can deal with it for 1080p BDs.. 24-bit FLAC however makes me so annoyed I just instantly run a ffmpeg batch command over all the files to re-encode the audio and never seed it since I'm not going to keep 2 copies of the same release just to seed.

first we need to defeat the jews and never let any Europoor handle any thing like Nyaa ever again

>>156707520
Yeah it wasn't a big deal but they really needed to be cleaned out eventually. And as far as the TV releases go, i have nothing against keeping them if they are different than the BDs and they are batched. For commercials though, the group doing the BDs could of easily just added them into the encode.

>>156707624
that's to much parsing through individual exceptions, again there's such a ungodly amount of crap to sift through that it's unreasonable to attempt

Sorry, have we actually gotten confirmation yet from Nyaa himself that the site is gone for good?

Last I heard people were still holding out hope he was just shifting domains away from Swedish ones and was MIA because he was in full panic mode while doing it

>>156706959
Bring me the gas.

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>>156707119
>pruned all the licensed shit during the whole Fakku drama
Not pruned, just hid beyond one more layer of fjords.

>>156707699
Well motherfucker, that is legitimately crushing to hear.

All those sassy comments on nyaa were lost for ever.

>>156707119
I would probably do the same, losing everything just for hosting fakku content wouldn't be worth the risk. People could easily (and did) host it elsewhere.

>>156707765
sankyuu!

>>156707185
That's how it was in USSR before traitors came to power. Also there was creative control that filtered all subpar works an their inception, that's why all movies were stellar.

>>156707709
How do I get past those fjords? Or at least check to see if I already have?

>>156707185
Maybe, but that's never going to happen except in some kind of post-scarcity scenario anyway.

>>156707539
>24-bit FLAC however makes me so annoyed I just instantly run a ffmpeg batch command over all the files to re-encode the audio and never seed it since I'm not going to keep 2 copies of the same release just to seed.
Holy fuck anon, let me hug you.

By the way, do you have an easy way to batch remux everything? Reencoding the audio istnatly is easy, the problem is remuxing everything with mkvtoolnik without having to manually input the name of all the files.

>>156706994
I would say the same but there were a lot of good encodes there. Even if you get the same show somewhere else it may not be the same release. I mean this doesn't happen with every show but there will be some that are lost.

>>156705708
Don't bother.
xdcc 'works' because nobody uses it. No bot is going to have 10gb up.

I have no sympathy for the admin, honestly.

He could at least have uploaded the most recent database, or warned of the shutdown ahead of time so we could have gotten a replacement up and going.

>>156707859
This, not to mention it will just make groups close it down or beg for more donations.

>>156707879
Just a reminder to make things retard-proof.

>>156707879
>He could at least have uploaded the most recent database
under the EU ruling he could be prosecuted for doing that

>>156707352
>AB BBT etc does not keep all releases either and sometimes they do not pick the best release to keep.
AB keeps what faggots upload and keep seeded, though their way of keeping dozens of nearly identical releases is retarded.

BBT was pretty reliable until 2 or 3 years ago, when some of their most capable stuff resigned and uploaders kept away due to retarded new rules and not having their shit granted for months. So they are stuck with outdated releases for some shows and only HS 480p for others.

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>>156708035
>EU
Soon.

>>156708096
I was indifferent before but im kind of ok with them collapsing now.

>>156707995
I agree with that, but if you make it too retard-proof the chinks and japs won't be able to help upload stuff.

>>156708035
>tfw certain arrangement of 0s and 1s are illegal.

>>156707780
>sankyuu!
How I hated that goddamn faggot.

>>156708215
>tfw certain arrangements of atoms are illegal

What's your go-to, now that Nyaa is dead?

>>156708330
gnunet, already getting cute pictures

>>156704026
Decentralization like how anime torrents worksed before Daiz pushed everyone to only upload to nyaa.

>>156708379
>Daiz pushed everyone to only upload to nyaa.
was that part of his plan?

>>156708379
>Decentralization
Torrent is decentralized.
The issue is with the tracker and indexer.
Both can be solved by going through hidden network.

>>156708379
like wach sub group having their own site

>>156708379
Daiz has fucked us time and time again. When is he going to stop getting away with it?

id be happier if all anime outlets died so anime can go back to being an underground hobby with yellow subtitled VHS tapes and intelligent conversations on obscure forums

>>156708379
This. Nyaa's downfall shouldn't be this devastating if it were not for Daiz and his cartel.

I hope people will learn an important lesson about the importance of redundancy and decentralization.

>>156708470
Because you let him.

>>156708451
>>156708379
>>156708470
>>156708511
Fuck Daiz.

>>156708521
Tickets to Finland are expensive though, I'm sure there's plenty of finnish weeaboos that would be able to shut him up for good.

>>156708096
Good, please make it painful.

>>156708466
Nobody will go through your hidden network. It needs to be a web service or a special filesharing client. Nothing else will take off.

How about moving anime to Britain? They are leaving EU.

>>156708576
>letting bald finnish control your weeb hobby

>>156708611
>Britain
Bad idea. Drawings of people are considered haram there.

>>156708379
That's just plain untrue.

By the time I suggested fansubbers stop submitting to TT manually, everyone was already using NT as their primary tracker and index. And they used NT because it was the biggest and most stable with a decent set of features.

At the time I even said that TT should just automatically scrape everything on NT, which would have been a much better solution all around.

>>156708611
Small breasts are child pornography.

Now I have to go to anime-sharing to download my porn games. It can't get much worse than this.

>tfw sad panda will die in your lifetime

>>156704026
Why not host servers on fucking Sealand?

>>156708648
What do you think of GNUnet? If they release 0.10.2 soon and it's stable and works, will you shill it?

>>156708611
They also have some of the worst privacy laws in the civilized world.

>>156708648
Fucking kill yourself.

>>156708328
>certain sequences of actions in a deterministic universe are illegal
>even after all your cells have been exchanged into new ones you can still be prosecuted
>even after all your atoms have been exchanged into new ones you can still be prosecuted
>even if you lose your memory of it happening you can still be prosecuted
wtf government?

>>156708689
I haven't looked into it but it'd probably be too obscure to be a sufficient replacement.

Anyway, there's people working on NT replacements already. Something decent will likely come out of those at some point.

>>156708648
Fuck off D*iz. No one summon you.

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>>156708744
>>156708648
pls give my animoo back

>>156707799
Much like how approved releases on Nyaa were always the best versions available.

>>156708611
They have worse piracy laws. Most of the civilized world has worse piracy laws than EU for that matter. EU piracy laws are pretty good unless you start being paranoid because of a case only ruling made to shut down a guy profiting from piracy of mainstream media.

>>156708604
>Nobody will go through your hidden network.
Give them a reason to go there and they will.

It's not in any way more complicated than using a "special filesharing client".

>>156708611
Unfortunately our two main parties hate freedom so the law here is only going to get more restrictive (and it's very restrictive already).

>>156708794
It is. The special filesharing client has a friendly UI. Your hidden network does not, unless it is literally said special filesharing client, i.e. gnunet.

>>156708744
I hope they actually publish DB dumps.

The "tracker" itself is already pretty secure with Kademlia-DHT. What I'm planning to do is I'll program a distributed client for hosting information decentrally on a second DHT. Basically you would need to download a client that connects yourself with the network and then you could browse a "site" like Nyaa and download torrents through magnet links. With this everything would be fully decentralized. With this we can continue to use the Torrent protocol while eliminating the single point of failure of a link aggregation site.
It might take me a few months to do this tough.

>>156708864
>It might take me a few months to do this tough.
GNUnet is going to finish before then. So are the federated trackers (instances sharing the same DB). Etc.

>>156704693
They literally have votes and discussions on MAL over which subs are the best for any given show.
Much better than a fucking comment section on a torrenting site

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>tfw no more nyaa

>>156708894
>illegal
>legal
>illegal

>>156708648
What's suggestion to solve such issuse?
Off-shore hosting? Russian mafia support? Tor/IPFS?

>>156708887
Eh, I'll check out the situation when I'll actually begin working on it. I have a lot of experience in distributed overlay systems so the project itself is not very hard to do. It was just an idea that I had this morning.

>>156708813
I don't know what you're on about.
If you're using the Tor bundle the hidden network UI is exactly the same as running regular Firefox.

Also, I don't see how having download and compile an obscure software is more user friendly than just running your browser from another executable.

>>156708894
>which subs are the best for any given show
But for modern shows the only subs are Horrible and it's Daiz's fault.

>>156704453
Why did he shit his pants though? I have no idea of what's going on.

>>156704026
Use other tracker and do magnets faggot

>>156708987
some streaming websites got v& so he thoughts be was up next

>>156708864
That's what have been suggested years ago, back when DMCA started.
Everybody mocked it though, "Downloading a program to download a site that will download your animu"

>>156708967
>If you're using the Tor bundle the hidden network UI is exactly the same as running regular Firefox.
The issue comes because you start to use exit nodes, which is mostly monitored by three letters agencies.

>>156709002
fucking magnets how to they work?

Memes aside, what did Daiz really do to get this much hate other than encoding for Underwater?

>>156708611
>How about moving anime to Britain? They are leaving EU.
You do realise Britain has among the worst privacy and copyright laws in the world?
EU law is 'way' better than UK law.

EU law is mostly reigned in thanks to Netherland having net neutrality laws and Germany/Austria having extremly tight privacy laws which they push that on the rest of the EU.

>>156709054
hidden network doesn't use exit nodes

but literally nobody will install a tor bundle just to download anime, they'll just use pirate streams and unstable sites because they don't give a shit

an all-in-one package or federated index is the only way

>>156708987
EU made a ruling that gave big fines and some jail time to one guy selling those Kodi loaded devices with plugins for piracy streaming. The usual defense would be saying that he was just linking illegal stuff in that case, which is legal in EU. EU has had enough of his shit though since it was a pretty profitable business and they ruled against him in that specific case (rulings are case specific and take into account circumstances etc).

Nyaa gets heart attack since they are apparently afraid that EU might give them similar ruling ignoring the fact that they only hosts what is pretty much links to illegal stuff.

>>156708864
That actually sounds pretty interesting. What technologies would you plan on using?

>>156708987
>Why did he shit his pants though? I have no idea of what's going on.
A legal ruling on some guy selling a device to watch illegal streams.
No idea why he thought its relevant to nyaa though.

>>156708648
Didn't you kill yourself?

>>156705898
Someone start an anime coin that rewards seeders.

>>156705502
I guess we just have to wait then. Shouldn't be long before all of Europe is third world.

>>156709095
>Germany pushing its laws on others
We need Stalin to save the world from Germany once again

>>156704026
nyaa shutdown because their owners are illiterate, so I guess first step would be teaching vocabulary and reading comprehension

>>156709163
Oh yeah, please save us from evil germany preventing our goverments from spying on us.

>>156704322
They don't really need a logical argument. Most people don't care about how exactly the technology works, they just know that torrent sites allow people to obtain copyrighted materials without paying for it, so they see nothing wrong with expanding the legal power to crack down on it.

>>156709179
I heard the owner's got kids now, and if that's the case then I can't fault him for erring on the side of caution.

>>156709013
>>156709110
>>156709126

>>156708914
Apparently it's just Nyaa being paranoid.

>>156709230
>destroy all the work because he got spooked
>can't fault him
you might not be able to, but I sure fucking can

>>156709123
JavaFX GUI with maybe some kind of web renderer for the site which I haven't really looked into at the moment. The core would be built with a DHT framework (similar to GNUnets DHT implementation) that is used at the university I work.

>>156709179
>>156709230
I would bet that he wanted to shut it down either way. A EU ruling is the perfect opportunity to do just that and have everyone blame it on EVIL GOVERNMENT.

>>156709230
He could just give/sell site to someone else, not being retard and deleting everything.

>>156709296
>The core would be built with a DHT framework (similar to GNUnets DHT implementation)
GNUnet doesn't have a "DHT implementation". They have a network protocol replacement.

Also they have a java library. Go wild.

F

>>156709296
>>156709324
>GNUnet's DHT infrastructure is only used if non-anonymous file-sharing is specified.

>>156709054
If you're using a hidden service the channel is end-to-end encrypted between client and server.
The exit node doesn't have any information who you are or which pages you're accessing.

>>156709102
It's still the simplest alternative that would pretty solve all the problems with the current model.

The only reason it hasn't become the standard yet it's because of people like you who think it's impossible for people adapt to something else.

>>156708451
Of course.

>>156709296
I know WebTorrent made a DHT implementation, would it be possible to cut out the application? Or am I missing the whole point here?

>>156709377
The reason it hasn't become the standard yet is because people have already in practice shown that they won't adapt to anything complicated.

You don't need like 1% of users, you need like 50% of users. Your convoluted niche software can get that 1% if you push really really hard, but it will never get that 50%. Normalfags don't care.

>>156709324
I have never done anything with GNUnet I just googled it and saw this.
>GNUnet includes a generic distributed hash table that can be used by developers building P2P applications in the framework.
So I assumed it is somewhat similar.

>>156709423
Yeah it's part of the infrastructure there but there's no reason to use it if you're using GNUnet in a reasonable way, since it provides functionality that obsoletes DHTs.

>>156708648
Are any databases alive or will they have to work off of the partial shit that some autist has scraped?

>>156709230
>the owner's got kids now
Fucking normalfag.

>>156709520
I don't know. Ask Daiz!

>>156709280
>a media player seller in Germany got arrested!
>SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING

A brand new system has to appear, governments have proven to be very slow to adapt but once they do nothing grow back as strong as it used to be. Torrent have been very resilient but needs to be replaced by something else. Also streaming is cancer and ddl is shit.

Thanks Europeans for giving up your freedoms. I hope the Muslims rape all of you.

>>156709576
They actually do ruin everything.

>moot
who?

>nyaa
who?

>>156709413
They adapted to torrents tough. What people really want is centralized hub where they can get "everything", i.e. putting all eggs in one basket. The trick here would be to make it centralized while keeping decentralized. I.e. "everything in one" on outside, but separate and not depending on one client/program/site inside.

>>156709230
And he couldn't give/sell it to someone?

>>156709623
>still falling misinfo
good goy, poor fansubbers am I right

>>156709671
They adapted to torrents because limewire and napster were full of malware. There's no other reason.

/pol/ is always right.

Remember that as the Juden takes your anime away from you.

>>156709413
Like I said, if you give enough people a reason to change and adapt they will.

Currently there are none.
If there was something similar nyaa in a hidden network, it would be a good reason for some people to start the migration.

The worst option is doing everything again in the same way and expect a different result in the end.

>>156709717
Or you could just bug the gnunet guys to make a new release since they'd get some traction if they do it right now. Then bug people to upload stuff on gnunet.