>it's light novel adaptation

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>>156693982
>it only serves to promote the LN and will never get a third season because the sales have been boosted enough

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>It cuts out way too many details

I miss the days of eroge/galge adaptations.

>>156693982
>>it's light novel adaptation
And it's obsessed with lewd art.

>>156694090
Some decent stuff came out of VN adaptations(Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, Clannad), but it was mostly shit.

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>It's a LN
>Main girl wins despite a superior girl that has had a more involved, more intimate relationship with the MC the entire series

I'm waiting Konosuba

>>156693982
good to see even japs know light novels are trash

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>>156694090
speaking of which back in those days with 26+ episode adaptions why didn't this ever see a adaptation

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>>156694298
Trust the author. He won't pull a Kuroneko.

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>it's a WN that's adapted into an LN then adapted into a manga

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>it's a light novel adaptation
>it's actually good

>>156693982
Kyoanus detected :^D

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>he doesn't read LN
Keep your opinions to yourself, filthy pleb.

>Set in a fantasy school
>Heroine is a tsundere princess
>Oh no! MC walks in on her!
>Duel between Tsundere Princess who has an A in everything, including Jobbing
>MC is some nobody who manages to win every fight and not have a massive target on his back that means anything
>Onee-sama
>Childhood Friend/Loli
>Best Friend

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>>156693982
Well fuck you too, and your generalizations.

LN adaptations are usually the best anime. First theres more room for artistic freedoms and design without triggering autism because there is no specifically drawn scene that a storyboard needs to be based on. Second, there's less chances to fuck up interpretation of the story due to the wordier nature, and less chances to run out of content and catch up to the source material, leading to long hiatuses or filler blocks like with manga.

>>156693982
>magical school battle harem

who watches this shit

>>156694029
Too soon

>>156696444
They tend to skip a lot of content, though. In the worst case, they can adapt an entire volume in a single episode.

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>>156694029
Don't destroy my hope and make me kill myself now anon. We still have the OVA

>>156694029
It will get a third season, I want to believe it!

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>it's an incomplete adaptation and basically just an advertisement for the thing it's adapting
>it's an original but rivals light novels in writing
>it's an adaptation of a shitty VN like Fate eliminating the need to read the shitty VN but people will still pretend the VN is better

>>156696291
Spice and Wolf is trash so I'm not sure how he generalized anything. It might be enjoyable if you're a 15 year old girl that never went to school.

>>156697391

>>156697793
What are you trying to say? I need to read a shitty light novel in order to know it's shitty? Idiot. It doesn't sound like you actually read what I posted you just wanted to post your b-tier reaction image.

>>156697445
>Spice and Wolf is trash

Wew sure is shit taste up in here

>>156697857
>t. Can't read

>>156697445
I'll fucking kill you

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>it's yet another generic harem show pandering to beta otaku

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>>156697445

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>>156697857
>I can't read it
>but I know it's shit
>all I read are 4chan posts
>that's how I know it's shit

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GOD TIER:
Original TVA

High Tier:
Novel adaptation

Mid Tier:
Manga adaptation
Visual novel adaptation

Low Tier:
Light novel adaptation

Shit Tier:
Video game adaptation

Beyond shit tier:
Web novel adaptation
Mobage/Netoge adaptation

>It's an escapist wish fulfillment fantasy for people who never leave their rooms unless its to buy more useless garbage

>>156698551
This is correct except light novel needs to have a separate category for adapting old light novels before the era of SAO, and those would be at least mid tier.

>>156696546
This. LN adaptions aren't bad, but the LNs themselves are generally just better written.

>>156698551
>VN adaptions
>Good
If only I could be as naive.

>>156698262
>>156698097
>>156697956
No argument here.

>>156698302
>>156698014
Who says I can't read it? You can stop samefagging. Actually read my post next time.

>>156694939
The hell is a WN?

>>156700066
Lurk more.

>>156700066
white nigger

>>156700109
Well, fuck you too nigger

>>156698551
Fuck you. How many original anime nowadays have been originality for originality's sake? It's dead and should stay dead.

>>156694090
Eroge adaptations are still a thing though.

>>156698551
Name one good original anime last year.

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>transported to an RPG-like fantasy world

>>156693982

So you're saying that the pacing is going to be vastly superior to a manga adaptation?

>>156700555
>how many
Doesn't matter. One is enough.

>>156694298
Why does anyone have to win? Darkness is too weird for him, aqua is a spoiled brat, and I can't see megumin's too much of a loli. Honestly, Im not seeing any romance and I hope the author doesn't force any of it in. Let it just be humor.

The only time I've enjoyed romance in a humor show is Baka to test and thats because it was established from the beginning unlike here.

>>156696546
HOPEFULLY this happens with overlord s2 and the lizard volume

>its a using a light novel adaption as a thinly veiled fan service harem

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>>156694029
>LN never even gets adapted

>>156694298
Why does everything have to have romance? Konosuba is pretty obviously a comedy anime. I honestly can't see Kazuma getting with any of the girls. If the author tries to shoehorn some romance in its just gonna turn the show to shit. One of the only comedy anime that incorporated romance right was Baka to test and thats only because romance was part of the actual concept.

Aqua's a spoiled brat, darkness is a weird fuck, and megumin is a loli. I'd prefer to see them view him as trash and him view them as idiots rather than actual romance partners

>>156701557
>>156700893
Oh fuck I thought it didn't go through

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>>156701557
Already a thing

>>156693982
isn't that the definition of modern anime?

>>156701649
Fuck. Is it at least low-key as in the romance is there but theres no arcs about "their love" and its just comedy?

>>156701851
There's like two romantic scenes in the entire novel, but it's there.

>>156693982
Adapting stuff from other media is optimal. Making an anime is expensive, so it makes much more sense for studios to let the other people do the story while they work on animating it.

And about the using anime to promote the LN is more the author's fault than the studio's.

>>156701988
It's the publishers, not the authors that decide that stuff. I'd imagine most authors would love to see their works fully adapted.

>>156694137
At least they were completed stories unlike LNshit.

>>156702106
Are manga adaptions shit as well because they don't typically cover the entire series?

>>156702066
It just happens because LN authors are too beta and prefer to bow down to them.

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>It's a well-done adaptation of a LN that keeps getting more seasons.

>>156702199
Yes, but at least the original work is enjoyable to read when it's a manga (and avaiable to non-moon speakers).

>>156702226
That's not right at all though, it's the publishers that provide the funding so they would make the decisions.

>>156700618
Flip Flappers, no questions.

>inb4 flip floppers

>>156702199
Some of them are. Most of the really good adaptations will cover the whole story or at least the parts worth covering. Not saying LN adaptations are bad because they are incomplete but that most of them are bad and incomplete. Most VN adaptations are complete stories which are more pleasurable to watch.

>>156702326
>Style Over Substance: The Anime
No. Fuck that garbage. I don't care how it looks if the story and characters are so fucking horrid.

>>156702371
Nothing about VN adaptions are "complete". They generally reach an ending, but not without stripping down so much of it. Unlike manga and LNs, VNs always take more time to read through then their anime counterpart, leading to the crunch. The only real exceptions are VNs like Planetarian which are short, which lets you adapt them well.

>>156702326
>It's a sakuga fag insists that pretty pictures make up for terrible characterization and laughable writing post.

>>156702288
Most LNs that get an anime are translated or being translated.

They're also very easily accessible.

>>156702452
>Nothing about VN adaptions are "complete".
Except for the fact that they have an ending. Adaptations will never be 1 to 1 but that was never my point. They have a resolution. Most LN adaptations don't. People like things to resolve. They like to see the guy with the girl and the big bad defeated. This is something you'll have to risk going without in a LN adaptation.

>>156700893
>>156701557
Megumin is actually older in the LN and their ages are very close together.

>>156702539
Does that excuse everything else about the show being shoddily written, directed, and very much incomplete when it comes to portraying anything? Having an actual ending is hardly a metric for having a decent show. By that metric Gosick would be decent because they threw an ending in there after adapting the rest of the series.

>>156702505
This. LN translations are only becoming more common. It helps that the chinks are coming on board as well to help make them available in English.

>>156702594
>Does that excuse everything else about the show being shoddily written, directed
No but what are LNshits' excuse?

>>156702541
No, you're mixing up the LN and the WN. She was 17 in the web novel(the previous version of the story that was cancelled when the author got a contract), but she's 13/14 in both the LN(source material) and the anime.

>>156702922
So saying that VN adaptions are complete and therefore good is a fallacious claim? I am glad to see that you are being honest.

>>156702922
>Being this retarded
Heh, typical elitist faggot. What does LN even have to do with this?

>>156702980
>are complete and therefore good is a fallacious claim?
Please point out where I said that. I'll wait for you to realize how retarded you are.

>>156702442
>style isn't substance

I haven't seen the show in question, but you're a turbopleb.

>>156703159

>>156702371
>Most VN adaptations are complete stories which are more pleasurable to watch.

Yup. Apparently Shingetsutan Tsukihime is OK because they kill Roa at the end.

>>156698551
>Shit Tier:
>Video game adaptation

VG adaptations are VERY hit or miss. Some can be god-tier like Gungrave, Sengoku Basara and the Street Fighter II movie, others are mediocre but otherwise enjoyable like Neptunia and Devil May Cry, and some are beyond shit tier like BlazBlue Alter Memory or the Art of Fighting movies.

>>156703195
Please point out where I said
>VN adaptions are complete and therefore good
Or are you so retarded you think "more pleasurable to watch" means "good"?

Here I'll point out something to you. In my first post I said:
>At least they were completed stories unlike LNshit.
Do you know what people mean when they say "at least"? It's not that they're saying something is amazing but that there's at least one good aspect.

>>156700618
Yuri on Ice

>>156703257
Oh please, arguing over semantics won't get you anywhere. That doesn't elevate them over LN adapations when they are deficient in every other way due to being rushed as shit and missing out on important narrative elements which make the story work in the first place.

>>156703311
>That doesn't elevate them over LN adapations
Yes it does. The average LN adaptation is shit and doesn't have a proper conclusion. The average VN adaptation is shit and has a proper conclusions. Hey guess what, one is better than the other.
> they are deficient in every other way due to being rushed as shit and missing out on important narrative elements which make the story work in the first place
Exactly like the average LN adaptation.

>>156693982
>Implying your pic related isn't another light novel adaptation

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>It's light novel adaptation

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>>156703477
>imouto fetishes killing anime once again

>>156703392
>>That doesn't elevate them over LN adapations
>Yes it does. The average LN adaptation is shit and doesn't have a proper conclusion. The average VN adaptation is shit and has a proper conclusions. Hey guess what, one is better than the other.
There you go again. Having an ending does not as a rule make something better than one that doesn't, especially when the narrative is compromised in other ways. LNs can actually pace themselves decently whereas VNs ave to make much greater sacrifices than any LN adaption. This is especially prevalent when a LN is more episodic (Jintai, Dantalian, ect.) so having an ending arc is not a huge deal.
>>156703392
>> they are deficient in every other way due to being rushed as shit and missing out on important narrative elements which make the story work in the first place
>Exactly like the average LN adaptation.
I already explained my perspective on this bit, but it is up to you whether you want to actually read the comment chain or not.

>>156703181
it's different dumbass

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>>156694029
Good, that shit didn't even deserve it's second season. It was just fucking trash.
On the other hand, NGNL deserves both a movie AND a second season.

>>156694137
Mashiro Iro Symphony.

If only for seeing the tsundere characters lose big fucking time.

>>156703563
>discount proxy battle anime with Mary Sue protagonists
>good

>>156703498
Its ok anon, they are not blood related

>>156700618
Space Patrol Luluco

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>>156703563
>NGNL
>goood
I bet you thought SAO, Mahouka and reZero were good, too.

>>156703633
>>156703681
>I've only been on /a/ for a couple months
>The posts

>>156703500
>Having an ending does not as a rule make something better than one that doesn't
That was never my point. Jesus Christ you're fucking thick. A 6/10 with an ending is not better than an 8/10 without an ending. But the lack of an ending is a strike against the show. People like resolutions and they dislike hanging threads. This isn't something I just pulled out of my ass, this is basic narratology. A show's quality suffers from the lack of resolution. It's called a fucking climax for a reason.

>>156694029
>Theres a third season announced right after the second season airs
>Only 10 episodes

Could be worse.

>>156703711
he did it guys
he did it
he called us newfags
you're a grown-up now I'm so proud of you

>>156698551
>Novel adaptation
Name one

>>156703795
LoGH

>>156698551
Fuck you, nigga

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>>156703711
>couple months
Did I hit a sore spot? It sounds like you can't get away from your "this sells because of self-insert fags" shows.

>>156703795
Uchouten Kazoku, Tatami Galaxy, Gankutsuou, Howl's Moving Castle, Shinsekai Yori, Aoi Bungaku series,

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>>156703761
>>156703845
Aww, the newfriends are mad because they got called out. I'm sorry

>>156703795
Juuni Kokuki

>>156694543
>30 + 60 hours
>literally "internal monologues, the Visual Novel"
>26+ episode adaptation

>>156699681
>hurr no argument
This will never fail to make me angry, bait or not. People don't have to present an argument to a non-argumentative opinion, fuck.

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>>156703892
Nice damage control.

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>>156703711
Another newfag that think that entertaining = good

>>156703936
But isn't that the same logic put into konosuba?

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>>156702274
>It's a well-done adaptation of a LN that stops getting more seasons.

>>156703972
>haruhi
>well done

>>156703978
Objectively.

>>156703936
another pretentious weeb that thinks being entertained = bad xdd

>>156703965
Who said anything about Konosuba?

>>156693982
The mobage adaptations will save anime.

>>156703915
>people don't have to
This is moving the goal posts. You're not forced to do anything. but having an argument is the least you can do in order to further a discussion. You could at least see that. If you're going to call someone names it equals shitposting. Spice & Wolf really isn't a good adaptation of the source material. Let alone good source material. One of those is an opinion, but the other one is definitely a fact.

>>156703972>
>kyoanus
>well-done adaptation
Pick one, faggot

>>156703965
>>156703965
In before memesters than think it is actually good

>DUDE BAD ANIMATION LMAO, d-deen finds a way

>>156695626
name one

>>156704035
Kino no Tabi

>>156704025
>replying to yourself
Oh boy, we're hitting a new low here.

>>156704015
>kyoanus
>badly done adaptation
I have yet to see one. Maybe Eupho? Haven't read the books, so I can't tell. Clannad was bad in the first place and even then they managed to make AS good. K-on was trash, they massively improved it.

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>>156704014
But the person who initially complained made a baseless remark and people were posting probably to either make fun of said person or bait them to actually explain themselves instead of take jabs. Isn't the explanation still due from the person who made the initially baseless claims?

>>156704014
"It's shit" is not an argument or an invitation to have a productive discussion, is shitposting and you ignore it

>>156704014
>Spice and Wolf is trash so I'm not sure how he generalized anything. It might be enjoyable if you're a 15 year old girl that never went to school.
>Spice & Wolf really isn't a good adaptation of the source material. Let alone good source material.
You've provided nothing worth forming an actual argument against. It's a simplistic opinion post and responding with smug reaction images and snide remarks is all the discussion it warrants.

>>156704062
>baseless
conjecture

>>156704067
Good thing that wasn't what was said then? You're just paraphrasing at this point.

>>156704088
>you've provided nothing worth
That's again, you moving the goal posts. I don't care what you consider worth in the slightest. It's not an argument.

>>156704134
>It's not an argument.
Neither is saying "it's shit."

>>156704157
>Good thing that wasn't what was said then? You're just paraphrasing at this point.

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>>156704134
What did you say that suggested it was shit besides saying it was shit? Please, enlighten me.

>>156704035
katanagatari

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>>156704038
ok

>>156704169
>Spice and Wolf is trash
>it's not good source material
There's literally nothing to argue against. You've done nothing but provide an unsupported opinion.

Elaborate on why you think these things and people can start providing arguments.

>>156704052
Kyoanus don't do adaptation, they do reinterpretation, they always add their donut steel bullshit, without fail

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>>156703936
>entertaining doesn't equal good

I don't get /a/'s standards. Heaven forbid i watch anime for entertainment purposes. I mean do i not wanna enjoy my life? Do i just wanna die a miserable faggot?

>>156704035
Tokyo Ravens

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>>156704177
The comment is still there you know. You just wanted an excuse to post more reaction images didn't you?

>>156704237
Again you're being a paraphraser. I've already explained why I think this way.

>>156704280
But they haven't changed anything in Haruhi except a few details.

>>156704285
Yeah I don't get it either. You pick the most entry-tier media format out there and then you bitch when entertaining shit isn't 'well written' by some standards? I'd love for entertaining anime that's actually well-written. But being well-written is a low priority.

>>156704285
It's called critique. I can say SAO is entertaining, but maybe it's entertaining because of how poorly written it is or the high acclaim it's gotten for things it doesn't actually have.

>>156704338
ENDLESS FUCKING SUMMER

>>156704369
Okay. But NGNL is actually good.

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>>156704336
I actively quoted you. You've explained nothing and made no actual arguments.

>>156704285
'good' should be a little more universal than some single dude finding it a good time killer.

>>156704388
Yeah you've paraphrased me. Again you don't actually want to talk you just want to post reaction images. Just reply to yourself if that's your end-goal.

>>156704392
If an anime is entertaining. It's worth watching. How does your pretentious little boyhole not understand this?

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>>156704413
At this point I think you're just retarded, boyo

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>>156704413
I had really hoped to change your mind. Oh well. I hope for your sake this has just been a round of bait that I've been happily taking, you're pretty dumb otherwise.

>>156704336
>Spice and Wolf is trash so I'm not sure how he generalized anything. It might be enjoyable if you're a 15 year old girl that never went to school.
Let's even break this down. You said it's just trash, and that the other anon is right. So you're saying it's shit just because it's a light novel adaptation? Why is this an exclusive trait applied to Spice and Wolf? If this isn't the case for you, why not state this isn't mutually exclusive?

And "15 year old girl who never went to school". I'm not sure what that implies, neither does anyone else. You need to elaborate a little bit more as to at least what that suggests, and perhaps why you think that.

If you can't elaborate on these two things, you have absolutely no argument and probably should learn to how to provide basis for your arguments instead of riding on others who also didn't supply reason. You went off a generalization and used it towards a specific example. State either that's what you're doing or be specific as to why Spice and Wolf sucks.

>>156704447
Worth watching? Maybe, but good? Depends. Something ironically entertaining isn't "good" even though you might want to watch it to see the trainwreck.

>>156704447
>not having any kind of standard
Disgusting plebs, I swear to god

>>156704456
>>156704459
>no argument just a reaction image and namecalling

>>156704460
>you said it's just trash
No. You quoted me and still got wrong what it is I actually said? Damn.
>So you're saying it's shit just because it's a light novel adaptation
How did you even jump to that? If I didn't literally say 'Spice and Wolf is trash because it is a light novel adaptation' I did not say it. Is this really so hard to understand?

>I'm not sure what this implies
Okay. But that's on you.

>>156704482
>Setting standard for entertainment
if you're autistic sure

>>156704383
I like the show, don't get me wrong. I absolutely loathe some of the core elements of the show that everyone really loves. Best way for me to put it is that I loved the tone and presentation, but it felt like it was incredibly full of itself and that's what people really gravitated to. I can't say I totally like it because of that. I'm not in that group of people and would be instantly assumed to be a part of by claiming that I liked it right away. Thus, I just don't like it because I'm not associated with self-insertion.

It sucks to be on the other side of the fence.

>>156704482
But I do have standards.

>>156704472
>but good
Anime is entertainment. Entertainment's goal is to be entertaining. Calling something good or excessive nitpicking won't get you anywhere. I've already accepted that nothing will ever be good enough.

>>156704509
>being a mindless retard that is entertaining by everything
I only feel pity for you, you disgusting pleb

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>>156704506
You're saying this isn't you?

Then maybe you should have elaborated that you weren't the same anon instead of jumping into his conversation you fucking mongoloid retard.

>>156704556
Why are you trying so hard to pretend that's what's actually being said?

>>156704533
I'm not the kind to nitpick.
>Anime is entertainment. Entertainment's goal is to be entertaining
It's also about intent. There's a difference between laughing with you and laughing at you. I can be entertained by Mirai Nikki, but that doesn't mean I don't want to burn the author's house and make him watch.

>>156703936
Call me crazy, but last time I checked, people watch entertainment to be entertained.

>>156703795
Vampire Hunter D

>>156694559
>He
keks

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>>156694029
The author put herself in the novel.

>>156705216
>He
>>156705229
>Herself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn_J14D5Pg8

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>>156705216
>>156705229
>they don't know

>>156703936
Literally no other reason I've been watching Chinese cartoons for years. If it doesn't entertain me then yes I will say its fucking awful. If it doesn't pander to me then yes I will drop that shit. I know people love to pretend otherwise here but its a fact: entertainment=good

>>156705229
That's an anime-only scene though

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What's the difference between an LN and a novel?

like don't we call "small" novels here just novels anyway?

>>156705360
>what's a novella

>>156696089
>liking YA shit with a jap coat of paint
Might as well read the Hunger Games.

>>156697857
The problem is even if you did read the LN unless the person translating it is really good, it's never going to read as well as an english-written novel.

Tried reading the LNs for full metal alchemist when I was in high school and i couldn't get past the first chapter because of this problem.
>>156702648
Are the haruhi suzumiya ones well translated or are they an awkward read? I finally watched the anime (i resisted it because of how it looks on the outside but i enjoyed it, even the endless eight bullshit) and i want more :(

In general anyone reading this, name well translated LNs I can read. bonus points if i can get it on my kindle.

>>156705514
But FMA isn't an original light novel. I agree with you on the rest though. Just not the right thing to pick.

>>156703498
they're not blood related. I don't know anything about the LN but the manga is less pedo-riffic than the anime, so if you want to enjoy the story with a little less awkwardness (So far anyway) go for the manga instead.

but they aren't related and didn't grow up together so there's not a real bond.

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>>156705360
LN novels are just japanese Young Adult Fiction with anime elements. Both are also done with adaptations on their minds, though with YA, since we're talking "high budget movie" adaptation, it's less likely.

But to be fair, LN are far less annoying than YA. Atleast people don't consider LN to be anything more than silly timewasters (i hope so), while some faggots consider Harry Potter to be the pinnacle of literature.

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>>156705632
>Atleast people don't consider LN to be anything more than silly timewasters

I enjoy Monogatari for that reason, just an LN series about silly conversations

It's comfy

>>156705632
>LN novels
holy moles, i'm a doofus.

>>156705514
The official translation seems pretty good, but I'm a filthy ESL so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

>>156705556
That's irrelevant, my point was about the translation job not whether or not it was the original adaption.

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>>156705360
>light novels
>small

>>156705632
You're full of shit, the only difference is the language they use, LN's use less complicated kanji and shit, that's literally it, for example Overlord is sold as a proper novel

>>156705846
>the only difference is the language they use
but that's what i said.
>LN novels are just japanese Young Adult Fiction
and you can't deny the anime influence.

anything i could have against them is cultural. Like Harry Potter fans, for example.

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>>156694298
>What kind of girl is your mistress like?
>Well she's awful and abusive and takes advantage of me while treating me like a doormat, but she bought my debt and was nice to me once.
>Well we've been promised to be together for 10 years, and now that I've finally found you and you've saved my life, I can buy your debt myself and we can be together finally. I'm also the first girl you've shown sexual attraction to in the entire 300 chapters so far, and we love each other, so...
>So yeah, definitely staying with my abusive ojou-sama lol.
I stopped reading there. I don't know what's happened since or care, since it's obvious only main girl can win no matter how appropriate Athena is. I started reading this series after someone dumped End of the World, so this was a huge kick in the nuts.

>>156705782
Ah. I stand corrected.