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>Summons full haki genie from his body
Best DF or best DF?

Thoughts on Pudding's redemption?
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>>156684724
>Judge BTFO
>SaNa BTFO
Good chapter.
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>>156684724
I don't think it's haki. He's probably just a proud black man.
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Threadly reminder your favourite character is a jobber
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>>156684724
Does he have to keep rubbing his belly or else the genie goes back inside him?
I hope he ends up against Brook so we can have a stand battle.
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Fifth for jobbing.
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>>156684724
So Daifuku can spawn a mini Vergo from his body? Pretty neat power.
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I love how story anons are jobbing to jobbingposter

remember this place is hell
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Leaks: Judge's flashback will features Vegapunk's first full appearance.
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>>156684662
Brook's panty hunting was always a minor thing, and he were always cool as death when it mattered, though current chapters are making him more impressive than ever.

>inb4Bege is the one who fights Katakuri

>>156684716
Urouge, just like Bege, cares not about titles. Bege likes to cause chaos by beheading heads of organizations, while Urouge likes to fight.
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>>156684979
If someone else rub him, genie will do their wishes?
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Do you think that there are going to actually be full battles and that, for instance, Sanji will be paired with Daifuku?

Oda said only five months ago that both the Reverie and the Wano arcs start this year, so I don't think we'll see much more of this arc, especially as I feel it's a bit soon to defeat an Emperor, especially with only half the crew (although well, BM's not gonna be in her normal state).
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Official bounties:

Daifuku
350 million

Oven
282 million
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>>156684724
How would you call that stand ?
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>>156685255
... Tamago has 400M and Pekoms 300M. It's probably more.
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ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZORO?
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>>156685315
Pekoms and Tamago are associates tho
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Big News!
Never forget the canon.
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>>156685365
Oven and Daifuku have a way better rank in the family than those two. That's why i'm saying they must have higher bounties.
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how much is puddings bounty?
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>>156685373
>Pudding jobbing to Sanji who then immediatly jobs to Daifuku's djinn

They're literally made for each other
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>>156685490
Probably nothing, considering that she appears to be this sweet girl and the Marines would likely not know what messed up shit she might have done. You could argue that she's an Emperor's daugther and part of the crew, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Marines didn't know she existed until recently.
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Kind of lame desu, actually.

Oven's power is pretty cool, but I was hoping his chest would transform into an oven and release heat or something.

When is Katakuri gonna do something? It's like his haki has given him full-blown fucking autism so he just stands around like a dumbass inspecting the future every few seconds. When is ANYONE gonna do something? This arc has been pretty great so far, but goddamn, there are so many characters being thrown at the reader the past few chapters.
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Just found this already online.
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¿OROZ AGGIN YM S'EREHW ,ADO
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>>156685600
Probably jobbing to directions
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>>156685255
Where are you getting this from?
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Name one (1) ACTUAL black person in One Piece. Pro tip: you literally, unironically cannot.
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S-Sanji has bruises because he's too worried and distracted about protecting Pudding and saving his family, r-right?
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Year of Jinbe's death
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>>156685713
Usopp
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>>156685713
Miss Monday.
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>>156685713
Yassop.
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>>156685762
>Didn't spoil the pic

Nice jobbing, faggot.
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>>156685832
>>156685825
>>156685805
>>156685767
Sorry, all white skinned. Try again.
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>>156685532
>literally jobbed for each other
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Is Katakuri x Dellinger a viable ship?
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>>156685713
Nico Robin
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>>156685713
Vergo
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>>156685762
>Jobbei
>Dying instead of simply jobbing
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>>156685713
That black midget in Buggys crew
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>character A and B fight
>Character A lands a succesful hit on B
>Character B is now considered a jobber

>the state of one piece readers of /a/
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>>156685862
I've heard that Sanji has black legs. Does that count?
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>>156685873
They're both jobbers so sure, they can job together.
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>>156685713
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Pudding jobbed to Daifuku
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>>156685862
Who cares about either blacks being in manga or not anyway
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Name a character that has job more than the Vinsmokes combined
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>>156685729
He jobbing.
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>>156685713
This black midget pirate in buggys crew
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I want to filter out the posts where people use the term "job" or "jobber" but then these threads will be completely empty.
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>>156685902
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>>156685936
Vice Jobber Smoker, but it's close.
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>>156685938
Being a Sanjifag is suffering.
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>>156685873
You write whatever fanfiction you want anon. I won't judge you. That's a lie. I'll judge you quite harshly
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>>156685936
Jobker
Jobblamingo
Zojob
Jobblamy
Jobria
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>>156685936
Jobbin Bobbin
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>>156685979
I don't think One piece is for you.
Try a more obscure manga like Boruto or Bleach
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>>156685880
she's not black
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>>156685908
No
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>>156685977
I'm just glad that this arc isn't a recicle of previous ones, that's why everyone is so hyped for new chapters
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>>156686015
Job more.
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>Germa dad crying
Jesus what a fucking bitch.
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How would you rank Whole Cake Island Arc so far?
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>>156686057
>robin
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>>156686038
Bojojojob.
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What was the biggest news out of One Piece, /a/?
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>>156686055
Saying jobber is a pretty recent development in shitposting on OP threads. OP threads weren't like this before.
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>>156686103
Job/10.
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>>156685575
I expect both Katakuri and Smoothie to survive, which means Oda will disclose very little about their fighting abilities like the WB Commanders in Marineford.
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>>156686090
What else to do in that situation? It's pretty hopeless from his point of view and he's too ambitious and worked a lot for his plan to simply die like this
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>>156686065
I don't think you know what being black means.
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>>156686103
>Whole Jobber Island
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>>156686103
I don't care about any of the Charlotte family. Not a one. Brook keeps me invested this arc but that's it.
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>>156686103
6 Jobs out of 10.
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>>156686178
Jobber? Can't lose with that guess
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>>156685588

My stand 「Arabian Nights」is invincible!
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>>156686241
You can be white and African, anon
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>>156686241
Are you stupid?
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Reminder that jobbing means losing to someone you should normally beat.
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>>156686126
It's been happening a lot in this arc. A lot of characters have seen hype only to fall woefully short of expectations
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>removed emotions
>Vinsmokes are laughing

what the fuck did Oda mean by this?
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>>156685713
Anyone using full body haki
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>>156686126
People spouting job this job that isnt "shitposting" or memeing you fucking newfaggot

We're reminding ourselves how shit Oda's writing has become. The job thing first started when Jack got btfo twice despite having a 1 bil bounty. He jobbed the doffy job and jobbed again when trying to bring zou down, emberassing the Yonkos. Now the spiral kept on happening with every single Yonko crew jobbing like crazy starting with Cracker, Brulee, Jobbin, Jopera, Diesel job, etc its not even fucking funny how fucking terribly written the Yonko arcs are compared to Shichi arcs
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>>156686321
Not jobbing.
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>>156686310
No, it means to lose in order to show to people the strength of your opponent

Might as well name this manga "One Jobber" at this point
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>>156686326
It's an emotionless laugh
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>>156686342
Come back when you finish high school.
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>>156686119
Thatch dying.
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>>156686342
Maybe you should remind yourself how shit your reading comprehension is. Oda even said bounty isn't powerlevel, you're just so unbelievably stupid that you can't understand it.
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>>156686342
>isn't shitposting
>shitposts
uhhh
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>>156686370
That does not make any sense.
They have expression of enjoyment on their face.
They still have some semblance of emotions in them
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>>156686342
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>156686386
>u r high schooler like me haha i btfo u
Sorry kid I dont fall for underaged kids that label everything he doesnt like as shitposting. Fuck off from this thread if you don't like it.
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>>156686342
Well, it's pretty tricky to make the Commanders too powerful because then how could it be reasonable to expect Luffy to fight with the Yonko themselves?

Like, Cracker was Blueno tier so that Big Mom (or Katakuri) could be Lucci tier theoretically...some of the Commanders have to job for our heroes to show us they got stronger so we can believe it when they are able to put up a fight with the enemies that previously were considered out of their league
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>>156686436
I asked to name a black person. Usopp is objectively not black.
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Stop jobbing to an underage, damnit, there's a limit to everything
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>tfw One Piece threads used to be cool without people being fixated on the word "jobber"
I want the good old days to come back.
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>>156686498
I said it because you type like a 14 year old who thinks it's cool to shit on everything. Sperging out over something as innocuous as that other anon's comment doesn't speak well for you.
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>>156686342
>bounty fags
I stopped reading. Oda already BTFO you.
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>Acts like he owns the world
>Cries like a bitch when he doesn't get his way
wew
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>>156686326
Laughter is not an emotion, it is a reaction

Honestly, the way the Vinsmokes are reacting to the betrayal was one of my favorite bits of their whole role in the manga, I never considered they wouldn't give a shit they were going to die (though it does seem out of character for Yonji and unless Dadji is putting on an act which I hope he is, you can tell he's where Sanji's weakness comes from)
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>>156686103
Sanji drama was simply bad and way too late in the story, Vinesmokes are awful, Charlotte family is bunch of cool designs with quirky abilities, but aren't really interesting as characters. Both groups are incredibly cartoony in their evil ways. However, Brook has been rocking in this arc like never, Jinbe is finally joining, Bege is way more awesome than I ever expected, and Tamago/Pedro scenes were surprisingly entertaining. And I really don't know what happens next which isn't this common in OP. All in all, the arc is pretty good, and may be great (top10 material) depending on how it ends.
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>>156686566
You not jobbing enough.
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>>156686508
people of Torino kingdom maybe?
why are you obsessing over black people in OP anyway?
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>>156686578
english is not my main language. why the fuck does your pampered ass think everyone here come from usa? are you even here during april fools or you just discoverd the board 2 days ago
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>>156686508
That guy on buggies crew.
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>>156686457
I think it's less that they're emotionless and more they don't give a shit. They were trained to not fear death, that's why they're laughing it off.

If they were actually emotionless they might as well be robots.
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>>156686600
Well, he IS Jobji's dad

Looks like jobbing is hereditary.

Besides,
>Jobji's mom jobbed to disease, while they have the best labos and doctors
>Ichijob, Nijob and Yonjob all jobbed to pills that get them rid of their empathy
>Reijob jobbed to Pudding
>Jobge jobbed to the entire plan
>Sanjob lives to only job
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>>156686566
Good old days will come back once Oda shows us how powerful and intimidating the yonkos are.
Its good to make fun of his works this way, I hope he reads the threads.
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>>156686342
T/N: In this case, the author is using the word "jobbing" to replace the word "losing", a common mistake by autistic shitposters and all around uneducated persons.
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>>156686508
You already got btfo >>156685913
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>>156686661
usopp is north african

so only part nigger
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>>156686777
yes you're very educated and shouldnt be here rulefagging like some fujoshi from tumblr ruining our fun.
leave right now.
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>>156686661
Usopp is white, objectively. He is not black in any way shape or form.
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>>156686751
smoker
>jobbed vs law
>jobbed vs vergo
>literally jobbed vs doffy

dellinger
>jobbed to hakuba
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>>156686751
Caribou vs. Pekoms in FI. The only purpose of this fight was establishing Yonkou crew's power. Also, Blueno vs. Luffy, literally just showcasing of Gear 2. Damn, that was two. Have I lost?
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>>156686702
Except they do have some emotions.
Lust
Anger
Apathy
Enjoyment
Sadism
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>>156686865
why are you obsessing over black people in a literal fictional japanese comic?
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>>156686777
holy trips don't lie
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>>156686823
He's arab? That's what you mean? Being arab is "part nigger"?
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>>156686867
Smoker vs. Vergo wasn't really jobbing. He achieved his objective, and it's implied he took some hits in order to do this. If he was fighting this battle to win, he'd use different tactic.
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>>156686947
Probably some autist with the necessity to self-insert
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>>156686924
He's not black, maybe get some glasses.
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>>156686955
north africans like moroccans, tunisians, libyans and algerians tend to be part nigger, anywhere from 10-30% nigger admixture
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>>156685713
How come Sanji always jobs to Black People?

Is Oda trying to say something here?
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>Bege wasn't allied with Big Mom all along
HOLY SHIT NOW THIS IS A COUP DETAT
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>>156686924
usopp's mom is white
yasopp looks like he could be part nigger but definitely not full nigger

I think north african is fine for usopp
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>>156685902
Can dodge bullets

Can't dodge a Nigger's Fist

Why is Sanji such a jobber?
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Oda should've written how it takes an entire crew to bring down one Yonko commander to show how dangerous the Yonkos are. As of right now if the next chapter shows Katakuri got one shotted by a king kong gun dont worry about the threads, worry about Oda's writing.
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>>156687073
There is no Africa in one piece. I don't know why people obsess over race so much. Just enjoy the manga for what it is.
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>>156686103
The most jobbing seen in the timeskip so far.

More and more people are wondering how the fuck Big Mom managed to stay Yonkou for so long.

Sengoku+Garp or Timeskip Akainu should have BTFO her out years ago or during the timeskip.
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>>156687098
Normally, a king-kong gun shouldn't worry Katakuri, since Cracker parried a lot of those
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>>156687055
I'm also correct. Have a good day.
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>>156687028
Ok, thank you.
>>156687071
I know but i don't care about what 4chan says.
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>>156687150
No one has been wondering this. Just you, marinefag.
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>>156686342
THIS.

Moria's Arc was more mysterious and cooler than Big Mom's Arc.

Hell, Oda made Big Mom a Moria ripoff.

Moria used shadows to animate corpses.

Big Mom uses soul to animate the environment.
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>>156687098
And extend the manga to infinity? Cracker has lost to Luffy and Nami with the help of King Baum in Luffy's longest (in-universe) battle. Jack has been fighting shifting Nekomamushi and Inuarashi for few days. Commanders are strong, but not unreachable, just like they should be in the last third of the manga.
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>>156686751
Zoro jobbed so many times.

Remember, Galley-La when Zoro jobbed to the Rust Rust Fruit User?

Zoro spent so much time getting those katanas only for the Rust Rust Fruit Marine to BTFO Zoro in one panel.
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>>156687098
Cracker is way stronger than Doflamingo and would've won against Luffy without the help of Nami. He did a good job. You don't seem to understand where Luffy stands at this point in the story.
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Reminder that One Piece sets in a fictional world. There's no such terms as "black people" and "white people" in One Piece canonically.
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>>156687257
In other words their fruits are completely different? Also please stop typing like that.
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>>156687331
Cracker is weaker than Dofla and Jozu is stronger than Cracker.

Deal with it.

Dofla > Jozu > Cracker
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>>156686893
Don't forget this guy and the entire New Fishman Pirate crew
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>>156687360
>doffyfags
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>>156685588
Joseph already appeared so it would make sense the next oldest brother would be Jotaro
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>>156687361
Maynard didn't job he just felt the pain of Sabo and Issho's victory.
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>>156687360
>Jobblamingo
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>>156687360
>doffyfags are still alive
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>>156687394
>>156687419
>Crackerfags
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>>156687415
I'm talking about to Bartolomeo.

Throw Hack in there too.
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>>156687360
>>156687394
Just start every post by "I'm a Doffyfag by the way". So, we can understand why you are autisticly screeching right away.
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>>156687394
>>156687419
>>156687433
Sugar's Nutcrackers > Cracker's Crackers
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>>156687257
I didn't know Moriafags existed. We must document this for future reference.
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>>156687361
I really hate this "let Y beat Z, so when X will look impressive when he beats Y'. Especially if both fights are off-screen. What the hell?
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>>156686667
Not him but, trying to make heads or tails of you severely broken English isn't worth the trouble. I'd give up if I were you.
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>>156687477
>Jobgar
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>>156686667
you type like a retard, shut the fuck up
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>>156687503
it's funny cause the chapter was titled "maynard the pursuer" and hyped him up with gambia's defeat... and then he just got wasted to hype barto
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How to spot marinefag: look for posts with multiple one sentence "paragraphs" (reddit spacing) about the marines acting out one of his silly fanfiction scenarios.
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In every manga, the non-ethnic looking cast are always assumed to be Japanese, so why is it that everyone thinks the people in One Piece are white?

That said, the guy Oda worked for who he says he took the most inspiration from portrayed black people in manga like this (this is a female character and in a manga full of dumb people, she is probably the dumbest). So maybe it's good he doesn't portray black people, manga usually portrays other cultures through stereotypes anyway.
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>>156687321
I'm probably doing something really dumb right now, but I will assume you're genuine. Zoro didn't job to Shuu. The purpose of this short fight wasn't making Shuu or marines look impressive. It was giving Zoro free sword-slot so he can get Shusui. And Yubashiri was the sword with no backstory of its own, it was literally given to Zoro as a bonus to Kitetsu.
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>>156685713
Mr. 5
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>>156687646
Yeah, it was the most clear example of jobbing in the whole manga.
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>>156687693
Fuck off, who cares about it

Can't believe /pol/ and tumblards will shit this thread even more. Kill yourself and do everyone a favor.
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No Ichijifags for quite some time. Where have they gone?
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>>156687807
This chapter obliterated Ichijifags. They probably just sat there and smiled as it was happening.
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Is that the rainbow homie on the clouds?
Is he gonna be important after all?
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>>156687807
Maybe they'll be back if the Vinsmokes ever do something useful.
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>>156687807
They'll be back once he starts doing stuff
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>>156687784
I don't care, I'm suggesting nobody should care...as in, a lot of people seem to think manga characters are white when they're Japanese. Race is a pointless discussion in a black-and-white manga. Color is for animefags.
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>>156687843
>based ichiji not afraid of death
>obliterated
He just doesn't want to go all out or else he would kill everyone.
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>>156685293
ZA NIGGAA
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>>156685902
This place has become worse than reddit in beating dead horses.
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>>156687882
You realize color spreads exist right? We don't need to assume shit
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>implying ichiji got btfo
nope, ichiji's only fault is being loyal to judge (who he btfo this chapter)

ichiji is fucking based, he accepts death just like a D. just look at him, look at the paneling oda gives him, he's going to btfo big meme and her crew
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>>156686342
No dude, I'm pretty sure 99.9% of us are memeing and shitposting.
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So what the fuck is up with the genie?

Is it like Smoker's DF? Is he actually a Logia?
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>>156687864
Nice catch. He might be.
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Is this arc better or worse than dressrosa so far?
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>>156687993
How is it even remotely like smoker's DF? He's a fucking lamp human who has a genie come out of his belt.
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>>156685936
I want you all to think about the time that went into this image, and the people who find this amusing in any capacity.
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>>156688038
Better but Dressrosa was good.Go back reading your shit manga.
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>>156688038
dressrosa in a single sitting is actually amazing, but on a weekly basis it was fucking horrible at certain points but amazing at certain points (gear 4, sabo, big mom)

WCI has been pretty good on a weekly basis for the most part so I'd bet more people like it.
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>>156688045
So, Mythical Zoan then?
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>>156687907
>>156687970
He is like the only one struggling against the sticky goo
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>>156687993
I already told you last thread. He's a lamp-man with a genie inside of him.
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>>156688038
It's much better

Whole Cake isn't as fucking long for one
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>>156688136
No, paramecia.
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Why didn't Katakuri just/also attack Luffy on his own rather than asking Bege to do it?
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>>156688197
he's busy shitting himself
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>>156688197
Bege was literally right next to him, Katakuri probably thought he was capturing Luffy
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my theory is that Pudding is the next female nakama Nami - ally and enemy before joining the crew - whore luffy's straw hat -part of the arlong pirates - captain arlong one of the big shots in east blue
who are the big shots in - grand line - the warlord Robin - ally and enemy before joining the crew - whore luffy's straw hat part of the organization baroque works - leader warlord crocodile one of the big shots in - grand line who are the big shot in - new world - the yonko Pudding - ally and enemy - part of the big mom pirates yonko big mom one of the big shots in - new world Pudding ha sent worn luffy's straw hat but the whole cake island arc i sent over yet - and i have more proof Nami - arlong order't Nami to push zoro in the pool and let him drown zoro was chained up and couldn't swim zoro jump't in the pool of his own free will and arlong wanted Nami to let him drown nami saved zoro and in doing so defied arlongs orders Robin - crocodile order't robin to read the poneglyph and tell him the location of pluton - Robin read the poneglyph but she dident tell crocodile the location of pluton not even what was writen on it
instead lied to him and in doing so Robin defied crocodiles orders
Pudding - big mom told Pudding to reviel her third eye to sanji and then to shoot him in the head - Pudding refield her third eye to sanji but she dident shoot him in the head and in doing so Pudding defied big moms orders also there is more evidence there is a naming pattern with the straw heads in groupt up
AB - Brook - CD - Chopper - also proves carrot cant join the crew AF - Franky - GH - ? IJ -Jinbe - KL - Luffy MN - Nami - OP - Pudding QR - Robin - ST - Sanji UV - Ussop - WX - ? YZ - Zoro this is my theory and i do belief Pudding will join the straw hat crew when i look at the patter of the female nakama you can just see the similarity's and i belief it really will happen Pudding nakama
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>>156688197
Too much entertainment from the future.
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>>156688038
I like it a lot more so far, although dressrosa did have some great moments.
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>>156688197
Bege had a candy gun right up to Luffy's head.
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>>156688281
GH-?
Gastino?
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>>156688197
I think he was trying to determine if Bege was a traitor or not.
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>>156688281
Din't read.
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>>156688281
I appreciate you formed a stupid new pattern for Strawhats to make this.
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>>156688281
Have you ever heard of punctuation, anon?
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>>156688281
I stopped reading after the first sentence
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>>156685713

Blueno
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>>156688045
>>156688144
Because his DF is literally a fucking smoke fruit?

He might be a lamp-man from the lamp tribe or some shit, but his fruit is SMOKE.

How come Smoker is weaker than that fucking smoke projection?
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>>156688170
It still has a ton of panel wasting nobodies. I do like that news mogul bird guy though...
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>>156685713
Mr.5
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ODERE, MIGGORO
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>>156688442
Because it's not smoke. It's a literal genie.
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>>156688442
His Devil Fruit isn't smoke, it's billow.
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>>156684724
>Thoughts on Pudding's redemption?
I mentally tuned out of this arc when he pulled the "muh eye" stunt. It's shit.

I'll be interested when Wano starts, and then probably lose it again since the starts of the arcs seems to be the only place where Oda actually does good chapters anymore
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>>156688442
Retard of the thread.
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>>156688584
>since the starts of the arcs seems
you mean between the end of and start of arcs

the best chapters in the series tend to be the transition arcs since they give exposition on what's going on in the world
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>>156688541
>>156688550
>Billow Man
>it's actually a lamp

what the fuck

none of this shit makes sense
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>>156688442
>He might be a lamp-man from the lamp tribe or some shit, but his fruit is SMOKE.
What the fuck are you smoking anon?
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Is Oven stronger than Sanji?
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>>156687632
And you type like a fucking bitch
Heed my advice and fuck off if the word Job is too triggering for you
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>>156688697
His devil fruit's name is the sound effect of smoke billowing out from the lamp.
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Nami will kiss and take Sanji back
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>>156688724
I'm guessing Sanji's flame leg attack (I don't remember japanese names too well) could work against oven
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>>156688724
Everyone is stronger than Sanji.
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>>156688744
me telling you you type like a retard is literally the only post I made itt, retard
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>>156688757
>TN: Hoya is the sfx of something freshly baked, warm, and fluffy
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>>156688628
He's also the Marinefag and the guy who thinks Big Mom is a disappointment.
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Is BM's first son going to be the strongest?
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>>156688880
No, Katakuri is. SCs are ahead of everyone.
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ODERE'S MIGGORO?
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>>156688442
Lamp Human is the description for his power. Like Oven is a High Heat Human. Or Luffy a Rubber Human.

Hoya means lampshade and the idea behind his power is obviously "Genie of the Lamp".
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>>156688815
You need to fuck off from these threads, son. You're bitch typing is starting to trigger me.
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>>156688697
Hoya means lampshade, where the fuck are you getting smoke?
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>>156688955
you set that guy up for an easy reply
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>>156688628
I disagree, anon. That title belongs to >>156686342
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>>156688955
your*

just stop posting, please
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>>156685713
Brook.
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>>156684724
>Thoughts on Pudding's redemption?
Forced as fuck. Oda sets her up as a spoiled two-faced princess and then retcon it for convenient misunderstanding. The only way he can turn around his shitty writing is with pic related by the end of this arc. It would be nice to keep that romance shit out of OP and have Sanji grow up as a character by rejecting a sinking ship. If he eats up her bullshit once more then he has lost all respect as both a man and a relevant character.
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>>156688772
Nami is a cuckquean
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>>156688913
First son and first daughter are going to be the salt commanders.
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>>156689005
what he's gonna do? bitch type the whole thread?
just look at this bitch >>156689010
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>>156688672
Nah, he does well when they reach a new destination and he can have fun introducing the place, the customs, the people and the villains. Sometimes he even lets the SHs do some exploring and adventuring before he starts the plot!

But then when he is done introducing the 30th relevant character he starts doing those "1 panel = 1 scene" chapters that are just horrifically disjointed and a chore to read, and his plots generally haven't as good as they seem when they start cooking up.
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>>156689065
Stop responding to it. Goddamn christ almighty why is underageb& not a permaban anymore
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>>156686751
Smoker jobbed 3 times in a single arc
Sanji does nothing post ts but job
Blueno only existed to job
Other than that no character should be called a jobber
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>>156688772
SAnji and NAmi belong to each other; it is their destiny. Just like SAkura and NAruto.
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>>156689108

no this

>>156689065
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>>156689074
>foreshadowed multiple chapters earlier
>retcon
>forced
You need to read slower champ
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>>156689108
that's not even me retard, the fact that at least two people here acknowledge you as retarded has got my sides split
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>>156689179
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>>156689201
I can pretend to be multiple posters too little bitch.
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>>156685902
OP threads have gone downhill with the shippers and the jobbers faction.
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>>156689179
>>foreshadowed multiple chapters earlier
>he actually thinks this
dumb
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>>156688103
why cant i enjoy both anon?
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>>156689112
>those "1 panel = 1 scene" chapters that are just horrifically disjointed and a chore to read
You again? You are complaining because there's too much contents, dude.
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where is smoothie?

i want to lick her pusi
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>>156689277
>he actually reads the manga
Oops! You got me!
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>>156689278
CUZ YOUR A FUCKING NIGGER GO READ YOUR SHITTY MANGA YOU FUCK
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>>156689277
Most of us predicted it and talked about it here, so...
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>>156689256
not with your trashcan tier english you can't
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>>156689277
>I'm retarded therefore everyone else must be
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A fabulous man like him reduced to a petty executioner? He should consider seeking refuge in is very papa Teach
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>>156689350
Yo bitch stop bitch typing the guy.
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>>156689278
You can. Honestly, i've read 60 chapters and it's decent. I might read the manga in the future. It's just too much for me right now. I don't want to become a BnHA speedreader.
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>>156689401
I know it's still you, dumb beaner/europoor
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>Pudding redemption
Not after Nami beats the shit out of her for trying to take Sanji away from her.
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Oda has made it clear that Commanders are strong but no invincible. Bege put all of his hopes in a desperate plan that required perfect setup, and he's not just a nobody. Who the fuck would risk battle with BM Pirates from the front door? Akainu? Yeah he might wipe them, or maybe he's defeated and then the WG is instantly fucked. Point is, no one is going to risk it.

I can't believe people are actually expecting DBZ levels of power creep with the Yonkous.
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>>156685293
『ミッドナイト・オイル』
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>>156689285
>You again?
I don't know what you are talking about

>too much content
That's not generically good. In fact, One Piece proves how it can be bad when the author does a poor job of managing it. Hell Dressrosa was 100 chapters and with all the stuff that Oda wanted to focus on, it STILL felt rushed. It should've been 150 to cover everything satisfactorily.
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>>156689463
He got a point tho, you need to quit your bitch posting. Even /pol/ don't bitch this hard.
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>>156689277
>Flashbacks to Big Mom treating her like a fucking tool.
>Flashbacks to Lola.
>Not foreshadowing that she wasn't just an evil cunt, but had good in her.
Dumb, SAD!
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>>156689336
the prediction was not based on evidence but on how predictable oda's writing of females is, i predicted it too
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>>156689476
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I missed out in the latter half of the last thread, what happened to get it deleted?
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>>156685456
Higher rank, maybe, but Tamago and Pekoms are pirates and there's no indication these two are. Big Mom's family, government and pirate crew are, although with much overlap, three separate entities.
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>>156689476
>yandere nami
>tries to murder pudding amidst all the chaos
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>>156689520
You are the guy from the thread about the "Jinbei" page from last chapter being a clusterfuck?
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>>156689539
it's still you isn't it rodrigo
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>>156685862
>Usopp
>white
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>>156689657
I haven't been on the threads for weeks
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>>156689150
I never made that con... uh oh!
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>>156685117
>Cringe: the post
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Why didn't the BM pirates just straight out kill the Vinsmokes right there and then?
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>>156689540
Nani????? A daughter turning against her overly protective, manipulative, crazy mother. Who could have seen this coming?
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>>156688281
Nope.
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>>156689804
Plot, but it's only a 3-5s delay.
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>>156689807
>overly protective
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>>156685713
Fishmen.
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>>156689804
Too much confusion is making them hesitate, especially with Big Mom being unable to give the order to shoot.
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>>156688281
> [...] Pudding [...] whore [...]
Seems about right.
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>>156689807
You seem to be misunderstanding, the bad stuff is the out of the blue third eye bullying, not Pudding having her own intentions. That page he posted does nothing for the bullying angle, it just reinforces the idea that BM is a controlling totalitarian who treats her children as her tools. Barely anyone suggested the angle Oda went for, and even less took it seriously.
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>>156689886
I dont understand the meme status of those brothers but god bless whoever made this image
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Reminder that both Zoro and Sanji are canonically stronger than ALL of Big Mom's henchmen and her army is a complete joke.

Reminder that you can't name a single Big Mom henchman that Zoro wouldn't oneshot.
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>>156690093
It's the chin.
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>>156690119
Luffy is stronger than Zoro and Luffy got bodied by Big Mom's #3.
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>>156690119
I'm pretty sure we saw some stairs Homies in the castle
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>>156689798
you just jobbed to cringe
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>>156689373
I never understood why people liked Mont d'Or. He's one of the blandest characters this arc. I think Randolph got a better showing so far than this guy.

Why do people like him?
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>>156690187
His books power is really cool

that's literally the only reason I like him
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>>156690187
Looks cool. Has some sense of self-awareness and responsibility. Uses a boomstick. Traps people in books. Gives people acid trips. Flies on books.
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>>156690187
He's got more pannels than the majority of Big Mom's crew.
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>>156690160
Only because Luffy is literally retarded. Cracker literally (LITERALLY) said that anyone can oneshot him because he hates to get hit. Zoro would flash to him and oneshot him instantly. Luffy was too stupid to do so and just kept eating soggy crackers like a buffoon.
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>>156686867
Ideo is the true Jobber.
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>>156690119
Is that why Luffy would've gotten BTFO by Cracker if not for Nami, and why he got BTFO by her army, and why Sanji can't beat a mid tier opponent like Daifuku?
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>>156690255
Luffy's faster than Zoro.
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>>156690255
Zoro couldn't even cut Doffy's strings. He'd never even see Cracker real face.
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>>156690255
>Luffy was too stupid to do so and just kept eating soggy crackers like a buffoon.
But eating soggy crackers was literally what won the day.
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>>156690255
He was too slow to do so, you mean. Cracker stepped in front of his soldiers to fight a Gear Fourth Luffy in hand-to-hand combat. Luffy went into Gear Fourth incredibly fast, he wasn't fucking around. Cracker just didn't care.
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>>156685293
Slightly breaking form
「Genie in a Bottle」
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>>156690354
nothing can cut his strings
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>>156690354
this

oda said mihawk could cut doffys strings ez
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>>156689423
it hooked me up in the hideout arc
everything about all might is great, everything about everyone else is ok to shit
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Anyone else really like Bege but feel like he's really asking to get his ass kicked?
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>>156690255
This>>156690368

You moron. Cracker is incredibly fast and has been able to dodge everything. Also,
>Cracker literally (LITERALLY) said that anyone can oneshot him because he hates to get hit.
No, he just said he hates pain.
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>>156690498
I think everybody in that space will be in major danger next chapter. Big Mom will unleash something not seen before.
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>>156690255
Yeah Luffy really fared well against Big Mom's army
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>>156690498
Bege can shot cannon balls out of his body.

Also, he's maniac to care about such things.
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>>156689584
I kek'd
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>>156690491
I've randomly read the chapter with the bird-nosed villain attacking the hand-faced villain and the thread related. It seemed really cool.
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>>156686387
I cant believe Thatch is fucking dead
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>>156690636
He was weakened from his fight with cracker and hunger
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>>156689807
Point being that Pudding wasn't the evil bitch we thought she was, nor the good girl she pretended to be.

>>156689973
It wasn't really "out of the blue" though. She had friendly relations with Lola, something she wouldn't have been able to do if she was "Evilbitch McBackstabsalot". So, as had been shown with Big Mom's neglectful "laissez faire" parenting and allowing her kids to bully and mistreat each other and not giving a shit, it was obvious that Pudding had something ugly in her past. Not to mention her talk with Reiju is basically projection.
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>>156690696
Its a fun time
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>>156685713
nigger in a box
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Strong World was the best movie, and the sky archipelago was the best setting.
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Whose day was worse?

Big Mom or Doffy?
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>Brook getting more attention and respect from Big Mom than Luffy
>Sanji BTFO Pudding with words
>Judge being a bitch
>Bege being finally cool
Pretty gud chapter, worth the wait.
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>>156685122
Underrated post
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>>156689886
Can I get a basic gestalt?
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>>156691167
What did he mean by this
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>>156690498
I'm liking the revelation that Bege, despite being a bit of a cunt, believes in people's ability to change their own fate. I'm liking what we see as we explore more of the Supernova's personalities
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>>156686342
this

>>156686417
>this meme
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People thinking brook was ripping off his own skin made me laugh so hard
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>>156691167
Doffy worked so long and hard to create his perfect kingdom. Big Mom only got her cake and some picture ruined.
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>>156691126
I got really bored by the Nami kidnapping as the main plot point.
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How fucked are luffy and bege?

Let's assume big mom is incapacitated for the rest of the arc, could they still save the vinsmokes and be able to run away from the big mom pirates?
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>>156691347
She might lose her life as well. Her day isn't over yet.
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>>156691296
It was stated many fucking times that it's a threat level. Obviously a crazy guy like Jack who massacres an island for pure keks (they were cool with him searching for the ninja) got a higher bounty than his actual strength.
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>>156691457
He's shitposting, probably samefagging his own post
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>>156691447
Are you forgetting what manga you're reading?
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How can a yonko be this incompetent?

Fuck this fat bitch
LET'S GET TO KAIDO ALREADY
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>>156691416
with jinbe around, they just need water to deal with the big shots
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>>156691187
>>Bege being finally cool

Seriously. It hasn't even been ten chapters and his alliance with Luffy has already been enjoyable than the one he had with Law. Law's was ruined the moment we found out that all he wanted was revenge on Doflamingo and we got fed his tragic back story

Bege actually wants to kill a Yonkou for the sake of killing a Yonkou
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>>156691527
>Bege actually wants to kill a Yonkou for the sake of killing a Yonkou
so does kidd and look at how he ended up
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>>156691500
It's rare but it can still happen. She's way too much of a threat and for once they are literally trying to assassinate the final boss.
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>>156691564
Bege actually has a real plan to pull it off and didn't stupidly pick a fight with Kaidou to prove how tough he was
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>>156691624
Hey now it wasn't their fault Kaido tried to commit suicide and fell on their secret base.
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>>156685713
Mr. 1
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>>156691504
Where did you get the idea that they are competent?

>one is a lazy drunk
>one is a suicidal drunk
>one was a lazy drunk who killed his own health
>one only cares about fucking and eating
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>>156691624
his plan was shit, without luffy, he'd be dead by now
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So how come Big Mom never thought to use her power to bring the earth's tectonic plates to life so she can be just as powerful as Whitebeard?
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I can't believe Oda is managing to make Big Mom's crew actually be this intimidating. Before the wedding started I felt a bit disappointed with everyone being relatively weak except for the Commanders, they really felt the same as Doffy's crew which didn't make sense.

Katakuri, Oven and Daifuku are what I wanted to see, this is what a Yonkou's crew should be like. Perospero is also really great even if he isn't a fighter. I feel like Smoothie won't match this hype though, so I wish we would've seen more of her during the first half.

I wonder how the fights will go on from now if there's any. I think it's likely that Big Mom will be broken for a long time, or she'll snap and attack both ways so she wouldn't get a 1v1. Katakuri seems to be hyped up for Luffy to fight, and Sanji and Pedro got direct match-ups this chapter. Still wondering who Jinbe will fight, and what the others' roles will be. Especially Brook, hopefully he isn't reduced to fighting fodder.
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>>156691623
Bege is trying to assassinate Big Mom. Luffy just wants Sanji and the Vinsmokes safe, he doesn't care if she dies.
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>>156691712
why doesn't jinbei just swim luffy to one piece
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>>156691712
I believe she will do something similar soon. But maybe not on this scale. You are going too far, anon. I was thinking about an island.
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>>156691671
Probably there were ways to fuck off or even join him and wait. Instead he went dick first.
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>>156691671
Didn't have to try and fight him though. Apoo was smart enough to join him

>>156691686
>without Brook

FTFY

But there are still different ways he could've made it work on his own. He simply adjusted once he knew he had the Straw hats to help. It's more respectable than watching three SNs get BTFO by a different Yonkou than they were aiming for or watch two SNs barely scrape by a Warlord
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>>156691712
Earth is connected to the sea.
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>>156691714
>everyone being relatively weak except for the Commanders

You understand just how fucking strong Luffy is now, right?
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>>156691840
Her ship is still able to float.
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>>156691714
You sound like a fucking speedreading faggot, dude.
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not gonna lie, if zoro was in this arc, big meme and her crew would already be over with and we'd be in wano by now
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>>156691867
I don't get your point. Chopper and Carrot easily defeated several of the antagonists (Randolph, Brulee, Diesel), Jinbe one shot Opera, Bobbin amounted to nothing, and the only relevant thing they managed to do was defeat a hungry Luffy with an army.

They definitely felt on par with Doflamingo's crew.
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>>156691867
I think he's right. Brulée and the people in the army weren't stronger than the Doflamingo family ones in my opinion. Having so many people on this level was the impressive part.
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>>156691839
Well, Doffy is the warlord closest to a yonkou and clearly more intelligent than Big Mom. Although Laws plan sucked bad.
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>>156691347
>some picture ruined.

YOU DARE?
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>>156692021
Which is why this alliance with Bege has already been so much more fun by comparison.
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>>156690449
>>
>oda said mihawk could cut doffys strings ez

Source.
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>>156692108
look it up yourself
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Mihawk > Blackbeard
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>>156692021
>the warlord closest to a yonkou
Not really. Mihawk and maybe Kuma are stronger than him, and if you are talking about an organization, I'd say Buggy or maybe Hancock could be closer.
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>>156691981
>I don't get your point.

The point is not that they're weak, that Luffy and the gang are really fucking strong.
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>>156692169
Hancock? She has a really less impressive crew than him. She's maybe stronger than him though.
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Where is she?
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>>156692169
I wonder where Kuma is now anyway. Last I recall he was heading back to get upgraded, so maybe he'll have some new tricks?

I want to see the new Pacifistas.
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>>156692162
how would this fight even go

the only way I see it playing out is mihawk maybe tanking a few quake punches but then cutting blackbeard in half
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>>156692021
The rankings go
>Yonko
>Admirals
>Shichibukai = Yonko Commanders
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>>156692188
Yeah, but Doffy's crew was also strong. The gap between his crewmembers and the weakest BM crewmembers wasn't as big as one would expect, and it seemed like the Sweet Commanders were the only ones that really stood out from the rest before the wedding.
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Jesus christ are you people retarded
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>>156692231
I have made this once.
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>>156692101
Yeah definitely, Law was fine for PH but afterwards he took too much focus and just wasn't fun or interesting enough for that. Bege is all about getting shit done.

>>156692169
Stronger, maybe but when it comes to organization, he's pretty much a yonkou with all the underground shit and marine manipulation.
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>>156692196
The Kuja can all use Haki, and we have barely seen what they can do as they've only met Luffy. It's hard to compare their crews because Doffy has several very strong members, but the rest is just fodder. In the Kuja's case they can all use Haki, that's a very big thing.
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>>156692217
If Mihawk could avoid the quake punches enough and get his attacks in, Blackbeard is done.

Blackbeard takes extra damage despite being a logia because of his devilfruit.

Taking extra damage from Mihawk will fuck him up even more.

Plus, Mihawk has no devil fruit (that we know of) to be negated by the yami yami no mi
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>>156691885
Forgot about that.

Well, with land bigger part is still underwater.
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>>156692250
>Yeah, but Doffy's crew was also strong.

He wouldn't be much of a Pirate Warlord if his crew wasn't strong.

Where did this idea that a Shichibukai's crew must be completely nothing compared to a Yonko come from? They wouldn't be Shichibukai if they'd just get crushed by one guy from a Yonko's crew.
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>>156692169
>if you are talking about an organization, I'd say Buggy or maybe Hancock could be closer.

Buggy is a shoe-in, but Hancock's organization is nothing compared to Doffy. She's simply safer due to her having less ambition towards being the Pirate King and therefore plays it safer (not intentionally) as a byproduct of not giving a fuck.

How strong she is compared to Doffy, well that's hard to say but she hasn't shown anything so far that proves she would be specially in the TV special where she goes damsel mode for Luffy to save her.

That said, out of all the CoC users we have been introduced, she's one of the few who we don't really see how she becomes as strong as she is, and like Doffy she's been laxing around for ages due to being undisputed around her area. At least with Doffy we know he took a more covert approach and constantly hit targets here and there to build his kingdom so he had to fight quite a few people along the way, but Amazon Lily is in the middle of fuck all and there shouldn't be many opportunities even during pirating to fight strong enemies. So how did she get so strong? Is it just a case of Enel where the fruit does the work?
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>>156692349
Pre TS Luffy owner their strongest fighters sans Hancock and haki'd the shit out of many. Besides, it's just one island while Doffy enterprise reached every part of the world.
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>>156692366
exactly what I think, for that matter how is blackbeard going to fight shanks?

all we know about blackbeard is that even pre gura gura, his punch was strong enough to almost break ace's neck, and ace was physically stronger than luffy at that point in all likelihood (judging by growth from when they were kids)
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>>156692155
That's not how it works.
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>>156685936
coby or smoker's glasses bitch.
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>>156692366
How can you cut BB?

He takes damage, yes, but he's logia with fruit which is working with strongest gravity. He should just rebuild himself just like Buggy.
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>>156685713
Aokiji
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>>156692203
Kuina? In the ground.
Tashigi? Wherever Smoker is.
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>>156692412
As far as we know, Buggy's organization only dealt in mercenaries. Doffy was a massive big wig in the black market. He sold weapons, artificial devil fruits, slaves, etc, and he bankrolled Ceaser's evil experiments.

As far as we know, Mihawk and Hancock are content to just be regular privateers. Doffy's the mad king who wants to rule the world.
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>>156692412
She has ten years of pirating behind her and she's constantly on the sea fighting other pirates to steal their shit. Also, she has been trained to be a warrior from her younger days. Nyon was also probably a good teacher.
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>>156692435
Well, what we do know is that Blackbeard was able to get those scars on Shank's face
If he's able to get that close to Shanks now that BB has the gura gura, Shanks is probably gonna need some incredible Haki to counteract that
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Will we ever find out whats best skelly's connection to the Vinsmokes?
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>>156692516
wat
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>>156692404
Again, you are misunderstanding my point. There must be a gap, it wouldn't make sense for the Yonkou to stand at the top in such a formal and defined position if other crews could stand up to them, this doesn't mean that anyone in a Yonkou's crew could defeat one of the top fighters in a Shichibukai's crew.

What I was trying to say is that most of what we'd seen of her crew was too similar to Doffy's crew, and this clashed with how the Yonkou were built up to be a whole different level, shown with how afraid Doffy was of Kaidou coming after him. If Big Mom only had her Sweet Commanders and the rest was on a similar level to Doffy's crew, that wouldn't be such a huge jump between the powers of their crews, it'd be a similar organization with a small jump in power, and more numbers in the fodder department.
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>>156692516
>He takes damage, yes, but he's logia with fruit which is working with strongest gravity. He should just rebuild himself just like Buggy.
English, motherfucker, do you speak it?! Also, you're wrong. Blackbeard's logia fruit doesn't make him immune to physical damage, as it's unique among the logia fruits. Because it's about "gravity" it makes him more solid than others, not less. It's like you skipped where he explained his powers to Ace. He can't just become an element to avoid an attack.
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>>156685122
Big Mom's flashback will come right after Luffy shows her the picture though
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>>156692412
>So how did she get so strong?

She was always strong. She became Empress and captain of a legendary pirate crew at age 18.

They made her a Shichibukai specifically because they knew just how strong she was going to become.
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>>156692644
Can't he shield himself with the black smoke though, since it'd suck in attacks?
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>>156692516
I looked up on the wiki that because of BB's power, the attacks come at him faster, which is how gravity works
Blackbeard can't just split himself like other logias, let alone buggy
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What an awful arc. I get the feeling you retards are praising it just because you're desperate for it to be good after how bad dressrosa was, but you're deluding yourselves because this is just as bad.

>Big Mom looks like a weakling
>Bobbin turns out to be a completely irrelevant character after it was hinted that he was gonna be strong as shit
>Literally nobody else on Big Moms crew who look threatening

Oda is doing a terrible job showing us why this is a Yonko and how she's gonna be on a whole other level compared to everybody else.
This rescue mission has been a cakewalk compared to rescuing Robin or whatever.

Fuck this shit. How dull. Where is the character that is gonna shit on the straw hats and bege? Because I don't see anybody around who isn't gonna get bodied by them.
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>>156692683
Yeah, but he'd need to put up that shield before the attack hits him, or actively dodge it. He's sucked up attacks that have landed a blow, but was still hurt by them, like Ace's fire.
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>>156692544
Buggy wins simply due to him being Buggy, meaning the plot will bend over backwards to ensure he comes out on top down the road. he could be put up in a cardboard box these last two years and he'd still become a Yonkou sooner or later.

>>156692584
But that's nothing compared to the others with CoC. All of them had tragic pasts like her but also kept picking fights with bigger and stronger opponents. Boa is the only one who has zero (0) ambition towards revenge or anything like that. She does hate the WG, but she doesn't have anything to drive her unlike the other CoC users.

>Luffy: Pirate King
>Doffy: Pirate King
>Law: Revenge
>Whitebeard: Family
>Shanks: ???
>Rayleigh: ???
>Conehead: Clan/Family
>Ace: Oyaji

Like when have we ever had a CoC user who we know had zero ambitions to change their current situation? I'm not saying it's guaranteed but from the looks of what was shown so far Hancock had no plans for the future, she was just living in the moment.
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>>156692641
>that wouldn't be such a huge jump between the powers of their crews
It totally would dude. Having 50+ people on the their lvl + three dudes equal or stronger than Doffy is already a massive jump. Now, we see that she might have 4-5 dudes even stronger than Pica/Trebol/Diamante. It's now getting insane.
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>>156692641
The "Doffy was afraid of Kaidou" stuff was mostly bullshit from Law. They both needed each other for their goals. Kaidou didn't seem mad at Doffy but about losing Doffy and Jack risked his life to save his butt. Doffy had no issues to fight two Admirals.
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>>156686342
>its not even fucking funny how fucking terribly written the Yonko arcs are compared to Shichi arcs
>compared to Shichi arcs


>luffy BTFO'd crocodile after like 2 months after he went to sea
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>>156692748
Everything you said his false. Good job.
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How come Rayleigh doesn't just swim to Raftel?
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>>156692641
But this is the level we're at now. This is the top of the mountain. The gaps are disappearing.

Doflamingo's crew was fucking strong, and they didn't even get taken out by the main characters. They were beaten by a bunch of other pirates. Luffy doesn't run from Admirals anymore, he attacks them. Everyone in the New World is fucking strong.
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>>156692748
Hopefully shit turns around and the stawhats get their asses handed to them because that would be the only way to make sure they learn how unfuckwithable a yonko SHOULD be

Though it's probably too late
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>>156692804
Doffy was literally sweating when Law told him that.
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>>156692679
But the question is how? Is it just genes? If so then why only her and not the rest of the Amazon girls? The source of her strength is unknown since other than her fruit (doesn't explain CoC) is never shown. Plenty of people had tragic pasts but it was always being greatly ambitious (hence haki) that is in common with CoC users unlike other haki which anyone can hone to a high degree.
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>>156692864
>taking bait

How bored are you guys?
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>>156692873
He probably could if he wanted to.
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>>156692748
>Big Mom looks like a weakling
Because she got too angry to choose what thing to yell about? It's just a gag, and one that still has everybody, even her own crew, afraid.
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Why did Oda say Buggy has the strongest DF?
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>>156692873
Cause he needs to bubble ships on Sabaody. How else will he get his booze?
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>>156692644
>>156692631
>English, motherfucker, do you speak it
Barely

I didn't say, he's immune to physical damage, i sad he's immune to cuts due nature of his fruit and being logia.

Even if someone pierce him with sword, he will just suck it inside his darkness and close the wound from it.
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>>156692797
That's not a huge jump, it'd be similar to the jump between Arlong and Crocodile. The Yonkou are supposed to be so influential that they are out of the scale, that's the thing. And basing that only on numbers isn't that impressive.
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>>156692928
Very. I'm not sure it's bait though. Those people does exist.
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>>156692957
I don't understand why he'd be the strongest pirate if he "wasn't lazy".
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>>156689074
Only retards have ever thought the best girl was evil.
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>>156692919
She was determined to become strong since she was a child. She and her sisters resolved to become strong enough to join the pirate crew when the Great Pirate Era started.

I don't understand what you're asking. Why is she strong? Because she trained hard and has a really powerful devil fruit power. That's how literally everyone else in One Piece is strong.
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>>156692804
Jack risked his life to get Doflamingo back, but Doflamingo was clearly afraid of Kaidou and if Doflamingo was still around but had lost Caesar, all that anger would be on his head. He also backed off from fighting both Admirals, thinking he'd need the entire crew to take down Fujitora.
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>>156692957
>>156693005

Can you even youtube?
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>>156692804
Wasn't Doffy shitting himself on the bridge when Law was mentioning how Kaido was going to fucking ream him?
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>>156692748
>bobbinfags

j-just y-y-y-you w-wait

Bobbin will fix this y-y-you"ll see!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>156692974
That's not how it works
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>>156692974
Uh, you're still wrong there. Doesn't matter if it's a fist, fire, bullet, or sword. An attack that lands on Blackbeard will still be a solid hit. Also, his DF doesn't work like that, he doesn't just change into an element and instantly "heal" from an attack, like Crocodile or Akainu. He's more "solid" because he's a black hole, a void, and will thus be physically damaged if cut or shot.
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>>156693074
Why wouldn't he? Kaido is not just a really strong guy, but he's also Doffy's main business partner.

Even if Kaido doesn't kill him, he could kill Doffy's entire business.
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>>156692981
It's not just numbers to begin with. Because there was always clearly three people as strong or stronger than Doffy + Big Mom who's at whole new lvl. Now, of course number does matter. Just imagine an army composed of 50 Dellinger. That's pretty much what Big Mom has as "fodder". Her crew was scary as hell from the start.
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>>156692901
Because he needed him for his plan. A guy who provokes two admirals like it's nothing won't shit his pants over another strong guy.

>>156692981
>Arlong
Rules over couple islands in bumfuckville with a weak ass crew. Zorro would probably solo them all if he weren't half dead.
>Crocodile
Fucks over a country with a pretty competent crew and would've killed Luffy twice, then only lost due a shit weakness.

Sounds like a decent gap.

>>156693074
He looked annoyed if I recall it right. It was all Laws mindgames.
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>>156692919
Why is Sanji such an amazing combatant? His Vinsmoke genes gave him nothing, but he had a good teacher in Zeff and some talent. That's all you need.
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>>156693063
epic, truly epic :)
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>>156687161
Cracker only had to deal with Kong Guns, no Kings involved.
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>First Mom commander to show up is Cracker
>First Kaido commander is Jack
>Cracker
>Jack
OOOODDDDAAAAAA
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>>156693145
Can Popeye defeat Jackie Chan in an Ikea store with just one can of spinach?
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>>156693163
And that's my entire point, a decent gap is not enogh when we are talking about the difference between a regular pirate crew and a Yonkou.

>>156693150
I feel like you either aren't understanding what I'm trying to say, or you are trying to convince me that my perception and opinion are wrong. This is going in circles, I see no point in keeping going at it.
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>>156693163
Oh and Croc would've killed Luffy at the third try too if it weren't for Robins antidote.
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Is Brook the most based motherfucker in this arc?
He's hasnt done much since timeskip but the minute we reach Yonkou territory, the goes Bones to the Zones godtier, stands up to BM, smashes her photo, calls her a young'n, gets her head chopped off yet still laughin.
How can the other nakamas compete?
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>>156693258
It would end in a tie.
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Name one villain group in this manga that was actually intimidating.
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>>156692928
I don't even think it's a bad arc but if this is how yonko's are then I find them very underwhelming
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>>156693281
>Is Brook the most based motherfucker in this arc?

Is Brook Big Mom? No? The he is not.
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>>156693322
CP9
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>>156693281
I'm glad he gets to do cool shit again. He did some badass stuff in TB but has been sidelined as another comic relief since
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>>156693327
You keep trying to pass off your bait as you just being an idiot, but you can't. It's literally impossible for someone as stupid as you to exist.

Try to be more subtle next time.
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>>156693322
Most of them were aside from fillers and fishman island villains.
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>>156693208
If Luffy din't use KKG. It means it wouldn't have worked. He might've used it but off-screen. He was about to lose and went full mode in a last ditch effort.
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>CTRL+F "job"
>92 hits

you guys are fags
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>>156693322
Ivankov's country
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>>156693322
Marines,world nobles Strawhats
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>>156693168
I am not contesting that, my point is we have (so far) not known what is it that makes Boa Hancock so talented. Even Vinsmoke Sanji, who is genetically engineered only ended up having fire legs (so basically he ultimately did unlock his genes I'm guessing) and CoO which anyone can hone. Meanwhile Hancock has CoC for free basically, we know she did not get it turned on during the escape at Mariejoa cause the flash back didn't show it and she was powerless all the same unlike Ace.

So even if she was a natural talent, who gave her the genes to do so? If it's not a character who hasn't shown up yet, then who would be the most likely? Honestly the only one who comes to mind is Shakki, since based on real life counter parts she shits all over even Black Beard and White Beard, plus they have the same hair color but even that's totally reaching.

On the other hand it could just be Oda's favoritism for whatever reason and being a hack. I have no idea which to believe. But the point is that Sanji is not a unique exception many others are like him. However, no one has a lack of ambition and has CoC besides Boa Hancock.
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>>156693343
Oh, God, yes. They were like the NKVD with super powers... They even had an incompetent, megalomaniacal bureaucrat ordering them around, just like the NKVD!
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>>156686198
Jobberwock Island
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>>156693322
Big Mom Pirates
Donquixote Pirates
The Marines
Arlong Pirates
Baroque Works
CP9
Impel Down staff
The Celestial Dragons
New Fishman Pirates
Enel's Clergy
Black Cat Pirates
etc
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>>156693145
Wtf is with the ballsac at the end? How did he materialize the guy's testicles out of thin air without putting his hand in his pants?
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>>156693268
>you are trying to convince me that my perception and opinion are wrong
That's pretty much what i'm doing, yes. I understand your point.It would've been a big jump even without Oven and co anyway.
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>>156693343
Became jokes once they left Water 7
>>156693365
East Blue villains were chumps, Enel's Priests were bland, Moriah's crew were unremarkable.

Only good villain group was the Baroque Works.
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>>156689584
Zeo and Shyarly are the only good things about that shitty fucking arc.
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>>156693450
Kek. That was a coconut. Thanks for the laugh.
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>>156692748
agree
like Randolp his intro was strong as hell
but then he turn out to be a joke :/
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>>156684724
>a fucking genie is stronger than Smoker

Smoker is gonna become an utter joke by the time it's revealed that Dragon is a cloud logia
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>>156693422
>Even Vinsmoke Sanji, who is genetically engineered only ended up having fire legs (so basically he ultimately did unlock his genes I'm guessing) and CoO which anyone can hone.
Sanji didn't unlock his genes at all, his leg sets on fire because his heart burns so hot. People in One Piece just get strong by wanting to be strong and working really hard for it, genetics has almost nothing to do with it. Sanji was my example, but most of the crew is the same situation: the only one who 'inherited' their skill is Usopp. Even Luffy started life as a total weakling with Garp's genetics giving him nothing but narcolepsy.
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>>156693096
Why not?

He's "solid", like black hole. Even if sword can cut through him and he would feel the pain from that, his wound still would close, because of gravity inside his body.

>>156693145
Black Hole isn't void. It's opposite.
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>>156693494
I too enjoy the Shark women
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>>156693469
The wolf guy almost killed Ussop, weird hair guy made Chopper go cray, and Lucci gave Luffy his hardest fight. There was some comic relief stuff but they clearly were serious fucking business.
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>>156693530
It's not that Randolph was weak. There was just a superior bun
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>>156693494
The descent from Sabaody to Fishman Island was god-tier, one of the most underrated segments of the manga in my opinion. Sad that there's barely been any crew interaction on that level ever since.
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Why are people surprised that low tier Yonko crew members like Randolph aren't 100 times stronger than the Doffy family?
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>>156691416
She's going to scream, which will incapacitate everyone around her for 5 seconds.
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>>156693422
>I am not contesting that, my point is we have (so far) not known what is it that makes Boa Hancock so talented.

She's the strongest member of a warrior tribe known for it's fucking strong warriors.

>she was powerless
The World Nobles are the ones who fed her the devil fruit.

>who gave her the genes to do so?
Did you learn NOTHING from Rock Lee back when you were a Naruto fan?

Like, you don't even have a point anymore. I don't know why we're talking about this.

Who was Whitebeard's dad? Is that why Whitebeard is so strong? That's basically what you're asking. And it's stupid.
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>>156693548
Because it's literally not, read the manga
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>>156693281
I like how it's supposed to be Sanji's arc yet he didn't even donkey fuck Pudding in any holes while Brook is torturing a yonkou like she's in the Donquixote family. Sanjifags will always suffer.
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>>156693530
>replying to your own post

Pathetic.
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>>156684724
>She dies and Sanji loses his shit
>One Park crew wrecks big moms island
>Kill the Big mom
>blow fisherman's island up
>Jinbe is Sashimi
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>>156693422
Sanji isn't genetically engineered speed reader
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>>156693518
Oh, I had to rewatch it, didn't notice he picked it up off the ground...I assume the animator intended it to look like testicles
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>>156693565
>The wolf guy almost killed Ussop
After spending ages failing to kill a handcuffed Zoro-Usopp, and even then nearly killing the weakest Strawhat isn't much of an accomplishment.
>weird hair guy made Chopper go cray
Legit
>Lucci gave Luffy his hardest fight.
Boss characters are the exception.
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>>156693587
He's barely a crew member. He's a regular rabbit. A simple homie.
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>>156693209
Since Jack is the weakest of the 4 commanders, who would the others be?
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>>156693621
Manga doesn't say he can be cut.
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>>156693530
Forget about Bobbin and Randolph, of the four of them who all "destroyed an island" for Big Mom over some trivial thing, Diesel got the worst of it, I'm convinced he's not even intended to be the same character because he's been nothing but lowest-level fodder that's below the regular fodder...how weak are these islands they are destroying?
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>>156693565
Jaburah was a huge joke, beating up Usopp especially back then wasn't much of an accomplishment.
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>>156693671
yes he is, he's just a failure.
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I wonder what the Longlegs' tattoo means. Blue Gilly, Smoothie and some extras on Totland have shown a similar tattoo on one leg, it's definitely not a coincidence.
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>>156693775
It doesn't need to, it shows it
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>read spoilers several chapters ago
>"Oven? That's a dumb name."
>see him when chapter comes out
>"Meh. Looks like a nobody."
>read new chapter's spoilers
>"Heat Devil Fruit? That's fucking lame."
>read the chapter
>he's cool as fuck
In my opinion, this is Oda's true strength: the ability to make any doofus look like a badass.
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>>156693547
>his leg sets on fire because his heart burns so hot.

But Zeff doesn't seem to have the same thing, there's no reason to believe his hearting burning hot resulting in fire legs isn't related to his genes either, specially when we've seen how his siblings work.

>Vinsmokes all had special powers
>Only Sanji doesn't have them
>Only Sanji got modified to remove emotions but still has emotions
>Heart burning hot enables special powers contrary to how his brothers have no emotions and therefore have it enabled all the time

How is that not a typical shonen trope again? It just means that his fire legs will be more powerful but under constraints. The ugly duckling is a tale from ages past for a reason.

Luffy wasn't a total weakling though, he just hadn't trained yet. That's like saying Gol. D. Roger was a weakling if he was defenseless as a 1 year old.

>>156693602
>She's the strongest member of a warrior tribe known for it's fucking strong warriors.

But none of them seem very strong, at least in NW standards. The 2nd/3rd are basically jokes in NW.

>The World Nobles are the ones who fed her the devil fruit.

Yes and how does having a DF unlock CoC?

>Did you learn NOTHING from Rock Lee back when you were a Naruto fan?

Are you some Hancock fanboy who is triggered and came over from tumblr? What does a hard worker have to do with Hancock who we've never even seen lift anything but cute animals with her feet by booting them?

Whitebeard had ambition, he wanted a family, so naturally he fights to protect his family/crew. Pirates roaming around will naturally get into fights with others, and one so protective of those around him (who are naturally not hesitant to pick a fight being pirates) will obviously gets pulled into bigger and bigger fights.

Hancock didn't give two shits about any girl on Amazon Lily but her two sisters. How could she ever get pulled into anything as big as Newgate?
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>>156693548
>Black Hole isn't void. It's opposite.
Oh, fuck, you're right. It's solid matter, super condensed into a single point.
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>>156693756
They are only 3. It depends who's the King in the pattern. If it's Kaido then Drake is one of them and Jack is number 2. If Kaido isn't part of the pattern there's a chick and a dude ahead of Jack.
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>>156693798
No he isn't. Read the arc again please before replying to me.
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>>156693671
Did you activate your Colors of Irony when you posted this?
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>>156693845
Okay, you can officially be dismissed as a shitposter now.
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>>156693630
This was so harsh that I actually felt bad for BM

Anyone else sense that from the way she words it that there's a sad story attached to the photo?
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>>156693897
Okay, you can officially be dismissed as an illiterate buzzword retard now.
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>>156693843
Oven and Smoke looks fucking stupid.
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>>156693888
He underwent the same procedure as the rest of his siblings, only the genetic manipulations failed, why the fuck do you think he was tested with the rest? please know what you're talking about before you open your mouth ever again.
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>>156693756
The Hippo-Hippo fruit eater. Jill the Famine
The Lizard fruit eater model Komodo Dragon. Chris the Pestilence
The Rat-Rat fruit eater. Mort the Death.
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>>156693898
A sad backstory? In One Piece? You must be crazy.
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>>156693951
Then how come he's stronger than them?
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>>156693951
That still makes him a genetically engineered human. Or are you saying someone who got his dick chopped off but failed to have a pussy put into him is still a natural male? Oh wait that's you isn't it? I see, makes sense you wanna argue against reality.
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>>156693834
I think it shows him only feeling pain from it, not being cut.
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>>156693898
She's still a Big Bitch so I don't care what happened and I hope Oda doesn't pull another Pudding. The villains are looking pretty shitty after the timeskip.
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>>156693898
Absolutely. I expect at least a couple flashback chapters starring Big Mom by chapter 866
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>>156693843
Oven seems fucking redundant when you already have a magma man and a fire man.

I wish Oda was much more creative like a Pressure Cooker Devil Fruit which is way more dangerous than a fucking Oven Fruit.

Oda really lost his touch.
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>>156693145
now I'm 100% sincere that oda created luffy after he watched an episode of pop eye.
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>>156693845
>But Zeff doesn't seem to have the same thing, there's no reason to believe his hearting burning hot resulting in fire legs isn't related to his genes either, specially when we've seen how his siblings work.
His siblings' legs don't set on fire, nor have any of them besides Reiju showed any weird abilities. Your inability to comprehend his ability as what it is does not suddenly make it something else. Zoro can't speak with a sword in his mouth because his father had special DNA.

And Luffy was a total weakling, even compared to the other kids his age. Ace gave him tons of shit for it.
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>>156694008
I mean sad even by One Piece standards. Not just "lol stairs" sad
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>>156693898
Well it's pretty obvious she's REALLY emotionally attached to this picture. So, yeah.
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>>156692748
>Oda failed to accurately portray his characters
>The only disappointment is readers headcanon is wrong
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>>156693756
>Since Jack is the weakest
where did you get that from?

>of the 4 commanders
3 you retard

>>156693565
it think if we count the 3 Croco fight as one it was harder than the Lucci one.
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>>156694013
I'm the one arguing he is genetically manipulated faggot, lrn2read
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>>156694005
When Jill goes through a land she becomes a Hippo and devours all
When Chris goes through the land his dripping saliva taints the land
When Mort walks through the land his swarm of rats leaves only bones
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>>156694009
Yeah, doesn't make sense.

Sanji's siblings spent their entire lives fighting.

Meanwhile, for the majority of his life, Sanji just spent time cooking in a restruant.

How come Sanji can surpass his brothers then if he spent so little of his life, fighting in wars or whatever violent shit Sanji's father engages in?
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>>156694009
Because he worked hard and trained under Zeff, and went through the okama kingdom's hell course.
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>>156694052
>His siblings' legs don't set on fire, nor have any of them besides Reiju showed any weird abilities.

Are you retarded? Each sibling has a different power, they are fucking themed after power rangers dumb shit. Each one has a different color and therefore different power. Why do you think Reiju is 'Poison Pink'? Do you think Yonji is 'Poison Green' or 'Fire Green'?

Why do you niggers keep projecting your newfaggotry and keep insisting you even know jack shit about shonen manga? At least have some decency to presume you might be wrong holy shit you guys are so retarded today.
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>>156693951
>>156694013
They were not genetically engineered humans, Judge put his penis in Sora and she got pregnant with four boys...they tried to do tests on them in the womb but Sanji didn't take...therefore, the others were all born with modifications but he's just a normal human which is explicitly stated when the guy is talking to Judge about Sanji's failure, none of his abilities come from experiments, all of theirs do
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>>156694028
Well, nothing will ever redeem her anyway. It will probably be some shit like she killed her benefactor in one of her tantrum and feel bad about it.
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>>156694086
We saw a picture of Oda's desk where there was a paper with a list that said:
>Kaidou
>King
>Queen
>Jack

So it makes sense that Jack is the weakest of them, though it's obviously not confirmed.
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>>156694099
Sorry, linked the wrong post.
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>>156694111
>Meanwhile, for the majority of his life, Sanji just spent time cooking in a restruant.

Sanji was trained by Zeff in fighting, who was a veteran pirate of the Grand Line.

He also spent two years training with the Grandmasters of Newkama Kenpo. He's the chef of the future Pirate King and a pirate worth 177 million. Of course Sanji is stronger than those scrubs.
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>>156694152
>literally modified
>failed to produce results
>doesn't count cause no results

Yeah I bet that would fly in the Olympics.

>I didn't take no drugs man, look I only got 2nd place
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>>156694181
>>King
>>Queen
>>Jack

Seriously? We just fucking did the playing card shit in Dressrosa
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>>156692544
Dofla has bigger balls than all the Yonkou.

Dofla specifically wants to target the Celestial Dragons.

Even Big Mom doesn't dare attempt to marry into the Celestial Dragons.
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>>156694152
>not genetically engineered humans, Judge put his penis in Sora and she got pregnant with four boys
It still qualify as engineered humans. Judge altered their dna.
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new trhead
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>>156694300
Doffy was also planned to hide behind Kaidou the whole way through using him as a shield while he snatches One Piece, so not really.
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>>156694145
It happens all the time. You can really tell most of the people arguing right now don't having a fucking clue about what they're reading and just project their ignorance onto someone else.
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>>156694280
Yes, really. It's still the same pattern. Doflamingo is the joker, Jack is the Jack. Drake is the 10. Sheepshead and Ginrummy are card game
>>156694181
You sure about that?
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>>156694111
They were fighting shitter majority of time, while Sanji was trained by a seasoned veteran from the GL and them spent a good time fighting okamas non-stop during 2 years, in which among them was one of the Revolutionary leaders.
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who here /Praline/?
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>>156694280
Yes, because Doflamingo was in Kaidou's employ.
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>>156694145
They're given names based on their freaky-ass unnatural hair colors. All of the "powers" we've seen from them, aside from Reiju, are likely because of their special armor and weapons.

>>156694280
Well, actually, it's more like a continuation. Doffy was the "Joker" of the deck, his executives were Aces, Kaido is the King, and so on.
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>>156694418
>>156694418
>>156694418
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>>156686330
I'm so sick of people saying Armament Haki is black, it's not black. It's clearly like a deep purple mixed with black, not sure what color that is but it's more purple than black.
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>>156694360
I just wish I could see them acting like that in real life. Like during class with a professor.
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>>156694300
Only reason is because Doffy has some super important secret that the Celestial Dragons don't want out.

Big Mom doesn't even care about the Celestial Dragons so you have no argument there.

He's still a little bitch. See: Kaido, Aokiji, Fuji
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I still think Kaidou is going to rescue Dofla from Impel Down.

Kaidou probably heard about Magellan and wants to see if Magellan can kill him.

So Kaidou's next destination is Impel Down.
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>>156694450
>All of the "powers" we've seen from them, aside from Reiju, are likely because of their special armor and weapons.

There's absolutely no concrete evidence of that, just because their gear obviously helps them out doesn't mean they have nothing themselves. The very fact that 1/2/4 can tank haki shit without haki is already proof of having abilities.
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>>156694450

It's simple, Sanji and his siblings are a classic example of green house vs nature. Sanji was a failed specimen in the green house, but thrived upon contact with external stimulus in nature.

The green house specimens might have abilities like the one released in nature, but since they have been raised in the green house for so long they can no longer exhibit it by themselves.
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>>156694111
sanji's bro were already stronger in the beginning but they have never fought a strong opponent other than nameless mook and were unable to evolve just because they were emotionless automaton.

Sanji on the other hand has encountered numerous hardship, trained by zeff, survived and defeat opponents that nearly killed him, trained even more on an island filled with tranny monster: his greatest weakness.
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>>156694563
>There's absolutely no concrete evidence of that, just because their gear obviously helps them out doesn't mean they have nothing themselves.
There's no "concrete evidence" they have powers. The only weird bit has been Reiju's poison, which hasn't been mentioned since: meanwhile, when they have simple guns pointed at them, the brothers have no powers to depend on without their gear. Tanking shit means nothing, we know that their bodies are so hard they might as well have exoskeletons.
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>>156684724
It's a weaker/limited version of MokuMoku/SmokeSmoke Fruit but used by someone stronger than Smoker.
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>>156694052
Niji literally used electric powers while fighting Sanji whil being called "Electric Blue"

>And Luffy was a total weakling, even compared to the other kids his age
nope, he was weakling compared to Ace and Sabo. He still used to beat up adults with pipes.
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>>156694532
Doflamingo will break out of Impel Down for sure, but I believe that after Caribou spills the beans regarding Shirahoshi, his next move should be going after her at Fishman Island or even at the Reverie
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>>156694688
No it isn't. His power has literally nothing to do with smoke. He doesn't produce smoke, he can't turn into smoke. There is no smoke involved.

He's a lamp man. Hoya means lamp.
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>>156694052
his epithet is "Red Leg" Zeff.

Early explanation of the name aside, it also possible allusion to Diable Jambe
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>>156694666
>Tanking shit means nothing, we know that their bodies are so hard they might as well have exoskeletons.

Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it doesn't count. Are you saying having exoskeletons is normal and not a product of science?

What about lightning like >>156694703 pointed out? If it was strictly gear why didn't Yonji use it? Even if it's not concrete the showings so far clearly hint at them being power rangers with 'unique' powers, and One Piece has never been subtle about it's references.

Or are you trying to contest the Vinsmoke siblings aren't power rangers?
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>>156694532
>>156694517
>>156694439
>>156694344
>>156694181
*The Kaido___________
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>>156694777
But Zeff being able to have fire leg doesn't mean Sanji's element can't be fire no? I mean can't it just be a case of fate where the guy who conveniently has fire powers but didn't know how to unlock them undergoes tutelage under a guy who works fire in the kitchen and in battle?

I mean it fits Sanji completely anyways, Fire has always been an element associated with emotions, which is kinda what his brothers sorta lack right now.
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You guys just don't get it all. The genie is smoke but he's able to have a physical mass due to armament haki
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>>156694914
>Kid has fire element and needs to feel hot blooded to activate it
>All the tests and environment are cold calculated and ruthless
>Completely ruins kid's ability to manifest his powers cause his emotions are always being stepped all over and being denied
>'Why is he a failure?'
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>>156694806
Ichiji, Niji, Yonji, and Reiju are genetically engineered. Because of this, they heal amazingly fast, their skin is basically an exoskeleton, they're extremely strong and fast with seemingly unlimited stamina. They are Power Rangers, and the Power Rangers don't all have unique superpowers, they usually get unique weapons.

Sanji had, and has, literally none of the special things that his siblings got. He is 100% human, Diable Jambe isn't even remotely hinted as a Vinsmoke ability. He's not even the only person to set himself on fire! Luffy's Red Hawk did the same thing!

>>156694914
Even going by your stupid theory, fire would be Ichiji's element, not Sanji's. Hell, Diable Jambe wasn't even fire as it was originally depicted: it was just heating up his leg with friction.
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>>156694996
Do you actually remember what the tests were about? Because they weren't about activating elemental powers.
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>>156694979
"no"
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>>156695045
That's the point. Nothing about the tests had anything that would turn it on, simply keep it shut off. It's a classic case of the scientist having a narrow scope.

I mean poison isn't an element man, so it doesn't have to be all elements, but the powers Reiju and Sanji display so far reflect their personality with how Reiju is always hiding what she thinks just like a poison seeps into the target, and Sanji needs no explanation.
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>>156695003
>Sanji had, and has, literally none of the special things that his siblings got.

That has nothing to do with whether or not he's genetically engineered though. A failure is still genetically engineered. It could just have not sprouted results yet due to the environment and selective testing.

Or do you think every genius awakens their potential during school years?
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>>156694773
>Hoya-hoya is also onomatopoeia for billowing smoke.
Tough through googlefu hoya-hoya is fresh hot food from kitchen

While the fruit will be explained further, but so far,
Producing seemingly smoke based creature but the user couldn't turn himself into smoke.
Not to mention the possibly limit on the smoke creature form might be different with logia's limited-by-user-creativity.

>>156694979
It seems creature is solid, but the user just clad it with armnament for extra power/defence.
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>>156695190
It wasn't awakened powers, the brothers are biologically different. They have fucking exoskeletons, your headcanon does not replace what actually happened.
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>>156695003
>kid is born from a white mother and black father
>looks completely black thanks to mothers genes being recessive
>you:this kid is full nigger, not a mixed race
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>>156695190
>A failure is still genetically engineered.
No it isn't. That's why it was a failure. This is plain headcanon.
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>>156695314
Your projecting is so amusing it hurts. Why don't you look up the definition of genetically engineered before you post again? Can you even read the whole paragraph on wiki or are the words too big for you?

>>156695377
Kek this has to be the dumbest post in 2017. So a modified car that has lower performance than it's stock version is not modified then?
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>>156695436
>this is the dumbest post
>claims a failure doesn't mean a failure
keep going champ
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>>156686103
Too much jobbing

t. IGN
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>>156695436
This is the dumbest post of 2017. Sanji has no modification.
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>>156695500
A failure doesn't change the fact that it's already been genetically tampered with, but once again keep ignoring every single analogy that shows you're wrong. You've been ignoring them the whole thread and it's clear you have nothing to say.

>>156695583
Having no modifications doesn't mean he wasn't genetically engineered. If you don't believe me chop off what's left of your tiny dick then claim you are a woman, cause I guarantee you nobody will call you a man anymore.
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>>156695583
>operate on patient to remove tumor
>fail to remove tumor
Going by your logic, nobody operated on the patient since it didn't work.
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>>156695655
Your analogies are irrelevant because the manga says your wrong. Sanji can't be genetically modified when it failed.

You can stop pretending to be retarded now.
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I thought Sanji' mama refused to take whatever steroids they were giving her when carrying Sanji and that's why he came out normal?

Guess I wasn't paying attention
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>>156695745
No, she had surgery under Judge's orders, then took dangerous drugs of her own volition to try and take it back.
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>>156695729
>the manga says your wrong.

Because a random character said so, and clearly anything that a random character in a manga has stated has never been contradicted or proven wrong. Ever.

It's glorious how you are now just resorting to "nuh uh" like a man child. Truly we've just seen an anon visibly devolve back into a mongoloid at break neck speeds.
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>>156695809
Oh so I got it backwards. Damn
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>>156695816
A character in the manga versus your headcanon? Hmm, I think you lost this one champ. Try again next time.
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>>156695900
>a random character in a manga who is clearly meant to be wrong will definitely beat shonen tropes 101

Oh man I guess this means Weevil is Whitebeard's son. He said it, and any speculation that contradicts it is headcanon.
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Anon's fan theory gets jobbed. There's no stops on this train.
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>>156696009
Genetics defining a character has been done approximately 0 times in One Piece. If anything, Sanji "unlocking his genes" would totally betray the manga's general feelings on the matter.
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>>156696101
Just like Luffy turning out to be Dragon's son would totally betray the manga's general feelings on the matter right? So since when the fuck did a little nigger like you get the authority to call what counts as the 'manga's general feelings' when I'm not even allowed to point out obvious shonen tropes that One Piece clearly has used over and over this whole time?

Have you accepted it yet you little hypocritical faggot? You're not even trying to win an argument, just trying to say your headcanon is canon. And the sad thing is everyone knows you're not shit posting cause you want (you)s, but cause you genuinely believe in your retardation.
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>>156696009
>clearly meant to be wrong because my headcanon says so!
Let's just confirm my claim is based on canon statements and your claim is your own headcanon based on another headcanon statement you made up.

Haha, good one buddy.
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>>156696220
Your statement is based on characters who are wrong, in a manga where fodder characters of the same ilk are always wrong. This is a fact.

Haha, fuck off nigger.
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>>156696298
>Your statement is based on characters who are wrong
Headcanon statement please try again champ.
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>>156696208
>Just like Luffy turning out to be Dragon's son would totally betray the manga's general feelings on the matter right?
No? Because being Dragon's son didn't mean anything for Luffy. It's not what makes him strong, it's not what makes him want to be a pirate. Garp and Dragon are both monsters, but Luffy's skills and ambitions have always been portrayed as his own. Hell, almost all the Strawhats are orphans to hammer in the point that genetics don't matter and aren't what make you who you are. Meanwhile, all of them have a strong mentor that they take after and learn from, whether it's somebody like Tom or Hililuk. The closest thing to an important genetic line is the Will of D which... so far does nothing. And the Celestial Dragons, which has been clearly pointed out as not making you better in any way like they want to believe.
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>>156696298
Headcanon statement #1: Sanji wasn't genetically modified

Headcanon statement #2 used to damage control the fact that headcanon statement #1 is directly refuted in the manga: The manga is wrong and I'm right because I said so!
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>>156696596
Sanji was genetically modified, but they haven't been proved to be successful.
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