Is iron blooded orphans the best stand alone gundam series?

>>156676996
>Is iron blooded orphans the worst stand alone gundam series?
>Is it the worst in general?

yes.

>>156677047
Why?

It was better than seed, 00, and wing.

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>>156676996
You will never come to any conclusion like this. Gundam is a fuckhuge franchise with a fuckhuge fanbase and a fuckhuge number of series. Literally everyone will say something different, there is no consensus except that Universal Century is best Century.

But I love IBO though.

>>156676996
Is this b8?

IBO was literally the worst Gundam in the past 5 years. Even G Rekt was better.

>>156677284
Yes universal century is the father of gundam and the best. But I thought ibo was the best gundam as of late

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>>156678132

Why? Give some reasoning please

>>156678629
I don't have time for this shit, just go to /m/.

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>>156676996
S1 is good.
S2 is worse than AGE but not as bad as Destiny.

>>156678132
Found the Grektard

>>156676996
Haha, no
Not the worst either

>>156677143
wrong wrong and wrong

>>156678815
>Go to the place where G-no Reconguista is praised as Tomino's best work

Fuck off

>>156676996
The best Gundam.

>>156676996
I wish It wasn't a gundam entry. It could just be a original mecha show and nothing would have changed besides designs.

>>156676996
The absolute masterpiece

>>156679334
>implying that isn't true

S1 was mostly boring, S2 was pretty good in the last stretch but not really worth the lead up to it.

>>156679424
Overman King Gainer was better

>>156676996
That's not Build Fighters

>>156676996
Teenagers are not able to get this ripped.

>>156676996
no and no

>>156676996
maybe if the second season didn't happen

>>156680735
the last couple episodes were the only good part of the show

>>156680816
didn't have the OP and ED of the first season, so you are wrong

>>156677284
Well there is one thing that everyone can agree on in the Gundam Community is which Gundam is the strongest.

Strike Freedom

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>>156681010
Are you retarded?

>>156681144
Obviously there is technology creep in the series but we're talking about the strongest gundam as it compares to everything else in it's time frame and in its era the Strike Freedom was far beyond anything else that exists.

>>156681208
Turn A set the earth back to pre-industrial technology levels for thousands of years

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>>156676996
>Is iron blooded orphans the best stand alone gundam series?
That would be G.
>Is it the best in general?
That would be MSG.
How the fuck do people like IBO? The only people who must love this series are faggots who never watched the original. I swear to god it's like Macross Frontier all over again.

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>>156676996
My choice would be 00.

>>156677143
According to who, you? Since when does your opinion mater to anyone who isn't unlucky enough to masturbate you?

>>156681208
Was there any IBO tech power creep? Everyone was practically equal, excluding grunts.

>>156676996
Definitely.

>>156677143
possibly
wrong
>not like JUST WILD BEAT

It's not the best but it's not the worst either.

IBO was alright even though some people over hype it, it had serious flaws but overall was enjoyable. Don't let anyone tell you it's complete shit or one of the best gundam series.

>>156676996
yes

>>156676996
Replace best by worst for accuracy.

For fuck's sake, did you even watch the show? Or even any other Gundam show?

>>156682200
You mean Delta. Frontier was alright. On the other hand, Ranka is the reason that the shitfuck Delta happened.

>>156683342
>Or even any other Gundam show?
Gundam in general is pretty shitty. Even Tomino himself said the farnchise was a mistake

It's utter shit.

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>>156676996
>standalone
No that's X
>in general
No that's Turn A

>>156676996
>>156676996
Turn-A is the best stand alone Gundam, followed by Victory.
>implying that Victory being in UC matters to its plot, characters or setting

>>156676996
is there a single gundam series that doesnt have god awful writing jesus christ

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>>156679187
I agree with this, though the first season did have some pacing issues. The second was just a fucking trainwreck.
Atra was cute though.

Where do I start with gundam?

>>156683499
didn't they turn her into an ugly as fuck old lady?

>>156683523
For uc production order, for AUs 00 or Wing aren't horrible places to start, I personally don't like them but I know they were intros for a bunch of people to the franchise

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>>156677143
Shit writing. First season was ok, second was complete dog shit.

>Hush had no point as a character
>Mobile armor plot goes no where
>Dainsleif ex machina

>>156679187
But you have it backwards. S1 was boring and by the numbers while S2 was interesting and creative.

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>>156683523
This might be slightly out of date but it should still help.

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>/a/ still mad because they didnt get magical happy endo

its a series for adults

>>156685171
True Kino. I hope theres a movie eventually but G Reco is supposed to have a movie and it hasn't happened yet so who knows

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I like it.

>>156685171
>/a/ still mad
>implying
>https://www.amazon.co.jp/product-reviews/B01M1LFPGK/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews&showViewpoints=0

>>156685486
>fujoshi reviewbombing amazon

this the equivalent of /v/'s reaction when a SJW game is released

It had probably the worst ending of any Gundam series. There was no reason for most of the conflict in S2 to happen.

>>156676996
Go back to ANN

>>156685539
>I have no idea what the shit am I talking about
Japan hates the ending in general. Especially after Nagai & Okada interviews.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/product-reviews/B015YW09G8/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_five?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=five_star&reviewerType=all_reviews&showViewpoints=0
For comparison.

>>156676996

grats on watchin ur 2nd gundamu

IBO would've been infinitely better if lolibait and Jewdelia weren't in the anime. Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.

>>156685389
>>156679187
I like this Satsuki

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>>156685171
I love bittersweet endings though. The thing is that they require decent build ups. You can't just slap one on at the end of a shitshow and then pretend everything is fine.

>>156685808
Their polyamorous relationship with Mika was probably the most interesting part of the series

>>156685942
A polyamorous relationship with Mika and Orga and Takaki would've been far more interesting and you know it.

>>156685942
It wasn't interesting. It was mostly cringe and ended poorly and felt like it had nothing to do with anything else in the series. Like it was a plotline that existed in it's own bubble.

>>156683603
Hush was killed to make way for lesbian moms ending
Mobile armor and built in limiters thing(which was actually very fucking interesting and was wasted) was ended abruptly for deep political drama ending.
Dainsleif is just...a metaphor for impregnation and the unfairness of war.

>>156676996
>>156677143
>>156677284
>>156678629
>>156679187
All of IBO is shit, stop with your low tier low quality bait.

The only good to come out of it was the AV system, the explanation for how gundam piloting works and it's implications for future gundam installments.

It had some interesting characters and moments but it was kind of meandering and had no point for 99% of the show.
Some of the characters were good but a lot of time was pissed away on characters that no one gave three squirts of piss about or just killed of unceremoneously for no reason what so ever.
I felt a lot of it's potential when it came to actual battles and the like was wasted

>>156687523
>elt like it had nothing to do with anything else in the series. Like it was a plotline that existed in it's own bubble.
If it felt like it then it is because it's true. Nagai admitted he just slapped it on because he wanted something "hopeful" at the end, and without much thought he came up with a baby. Babies mean hope right? Let's just put one in the end and call it a day.

>>156677047

I know we all want to forget it but AGE is the worst by far.

>>156676996
Nah, it's not even in the top five. Nothing since the turn of the century has touched the top 3 in G, Turn A, and After War Gundam X.

I'm still shocked that McGillis pretended he had his act together for a season and a half, went all in on Bael and then screwed himself and all of Tekkadan over. I never expected a good end for Tekkadan in the first place but the way they went was disastrous. They fulfilled Kudelia's objective and had the rest of the members live peaceful lives after the agreement with Rustal but losing Mika, Guts, Shino, Orga, Naze and basically every compelling character on their side was a huge downer.

Basically, seeing Rustal and co. win without much difficulty and without many notable casualties was disappointing, even if it was to be expected with their banned weapons and overwhelming might. MSG: IBO: Ride's Flash when?

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>>156676996
First season was okay-meh. Second season went straight to hell. Every time I see Mikazuki shown to be pathetically handicap made me more annoyed than sympathetic. You could summarize 2nd season with two words; melodrama and incompetence.

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>>156688021
how can it be the worst when it has this?

>>156689562
It also has the entire third arc/Kio.

>>156687715
The core concept and the first two episodes of season one were pretty promising, that episode one with Mobile Armor in season two gave me hope the rest of the series is going to be about fighting ancient evils, and I was glad the best boy and the best girl not only survived but even won.

>>156676996
IBO start really strong
It was a gritty Gundam and the heavyness and mystery surrounding it was really promising
Then he goes full straight KAZOKU KAZOKU KAZOKU KAZOKU made in all flavor and all the hope I had for this vanished mid season

TLDR
It suck

>>156689962
You forgot the KUDELIA SUGOI

>>156687616
>Tekkadan uses a single Dainsleif
>Gjallarhorn retaliates with the 50 they just happen to have lying around
>"this is how Rustal Elion fights :^)"
Why the fuck are Dainsleifs even illegal anyway? A weapon effective enough to make Mobile Suits irrelevant would probably just replace them.
Was the only purpose for their creation to be that massive fucking deus ex machina?

gundam seed is best.

>>156676996
>Best stand alone series

Yes. Fuck the haters.

>>156691684
Literally this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDBhUaSSJIE

>>156676996
I wish they have titled it like this:

Iron Blooded Orphans - A Gundam Story

>>156691684
>>156692098
The only good thing from seed was the ED theme. Otherwise it's a shit gundam show.

How's the world building?

>>156691125
>Tekkadan uses a single Dainsleif

That wasn't Tekkadan, that was the Gjallarhorn sleeper agent. That was the entire point. He planted an agent to use the Dainsleif against his fleet so it would seem as though Tekkadan wasn't above using banned weaponry, thus allowing them to retaliate with an "equal" level of force in the form of the tons of Dainsleifs they had prepared.

Anyways, Dainsleifs are banned because having an individual with a railgun fire ammunition that can penetrate even battlecruiser-tier armor practically instantaneously is considered extreme and inhumane, seeing as there's no real feasible defense for it. Sure, it's retarded given the AV system, Mobile Suits and Mobile Armors exist but that's how it is.

>>156676996
>Is iron blooded orphans the best stand alone gundam series?
No
>Is it the best in general?
Hell no

>the average /a/ poster is so young that they dont know about X, turn a or 8th MS team

>>156694314
>08th MS Team
>anywhere close to best

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>>156694314
But X is aggresively average and 08th MS Team's OP is way cooler and interesting than anything that happens in the actual show.

>>156693416
It seems to me that the introduction of Dainsleifs invalidated the purpose of Mobile Suits as MA hunters, especially given Rustal's tactical strike from orbit in the final episode. There's no need for a neural interface that shines in close combat when shoulder-mounted railguns exist.

>>156680816
The last 5 episodes of season 2 were literally the only bad part of the show tho

>>156682297
dansleifs. But then its the closest the series got to a 'beam' weapon that actually kills thing in there.

>>156700098
If you consider that ma arent retarded. they'de prolly fuck off the moment they get shot by one of those things. And seeing as how barbatos and gusion survived a barage of them, it'll do even less on it. Not to mention MA's can just repair themselves.

>>156679187
> AGE
> good

I get it that IBO left some bitter. But it wasnt as bad as the abysmal failure that is age and gsd.

>>156703908
I never said AGE was good. It's a pile of shit. I just said IBO S2 is even worse.

>>156703881
Just spam more dainleif till it dies, the kinetic energy alone wrecked the two gundam and left them bleeding to death.

>>156704188

Pretty much sums it down.

>>156676996
G and Turn A shit all over it.

Can someone give me a rundown of which Gundams G-Savior is now considered to be. better than?

>>156676996
It's in my top 3 most hated Gundams along with SEED Destiny and AGE. I like all the other series to an extent.

>>156679187
The most cancerous meme newfags picked up on /a/ is repeating that "destiny was shit", not realizing its a meme and despite whatever complaint it had the show was huge on /a/ when it aired. More than any other Gundam likely would be.

None of the Gundam IBO can even compete with single destiny episode like say Attack on Armory One, and it wasnt a single episode like that.

So did Okada save Gundam?

>>156691684
Truth spoken.

Gundam is shit in general. Battletech is superior.

>>156679187
S1 was good for the first 8 episodes
S2 was good for the first arc
I liked the S2 ending though.

X is the best standalone.

>>156685171
That's not why I'm mad, I never expected any such magical happy ending and I fully expected each and every one of them to die. What made me mad was the bullshit "Oh, you want a baby? Okay."

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>>156685171
The ending wasn't bad. Everything leading up to it was.

>>156676996
Wing>00>IBO>seed

IBO can't be the best if there's no High-Duck. Therefore Wing is the best.

>>156677143
>IBO
>better than 00
wew lad

>>156676996
IBO is one of those shows where on paper there's stuff happening, but it feels like a whole lot of nothing. Like a fart quickly lost to the wind

Bael is the most underwhelming shit ever. Like you'd expect it to be some broken shit after being hyped for so long.

>>156697065
>>156699366


>people dont like 08th MS team

i have not seem any Gundam since Seed Destiny but 08th MS team remains my favorite for its portrayal of normal soldiers rather than ace pilots.

what was the problem with it in your opinions?

>>156704340
none, its still complete trash, how the movie was approved ill never know.

>>156676996
I thought that maybe it might be fun because it was a Gundam show, even though I have a rule against watching anything Okada writes. I was wrong. This was one of the worst shows I've every watched to completion, and everyone even pretending to enjoy it is honestly retarded. I can't even fathom how stupid you have to be and how shit your taste has to be to actually enjoy this series. It was offensively bad on every front save mech designs.

>>156681010
>Strike Freedom
>unironically watching SEED Anything
>ignoring the first gen on Gundam OO

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>>156705837
>>156681010
Plus Gundam OO Qan[T] could talk in all languages, to all life forms in the universe, and move at the speed of emotions. Kinda deus ex machina of the Gundam series.

The Qan[T]. Stands for Quantum Bullshit.

>>156676996
> Uninteresting main character
> Full of wasted potential
> Forced melodrama
> Ruined by a female writer
> Deus ex Machina
It's the worst.

>>156676996
S1 was actually pretty good. S2 was a fucking trainwreck and made me leave the series be.

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>>156683462
>No liking based Garrod

>>156676996
No. Gundam Sousei is the best stand-alone Gundam.

IBO is in the bottom five.

>>156685171

>expecting /a/ to recognize kino

>>156676996
It's the first genuinely good Gundam. For almost 2 decades now I try to like Gundam but shit-tier characters and nonsensical pseudo-philosophical writing made it always unbearable. While IBO has its flaws it's certainly more enjoyable than the rest of the franchise.

>>156685248
>G Reco is supposed to have a movie
Gotta make a movie for those 10-12 people who like it, that's where the money is.

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Shino and Yamagi were my only takeaway from this series.

>>156676996
Is there anything more cancerous then IBOfags?

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best series by far. I hope others can learn and emulate from it

>>156687715
Have a late (you).

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>>156711448
>IBO
>generally good Gundam
>"has flaws but it's certainly more enjoyable than the rest of the franchise"

>>156676996
Worst entry in the entire franchise and I've seen all of SD and most of the compilation movies.

Good to see a lot of fake gundam and mecha fans showing themselves

>>156683462
>>156683482
Wrong, Turn A was the low point in the franchise until Age and Try came along. I'd gladly take all of SEED, Destiny, 00, X, Wing, G, and even MS IGLOO over anything like Turn A ever again.

>>156689962
>IBO start really strong
Until you realize it never did

>>156677143
00 > Wing > Seed > shit > IBO > Seed Destiny

>>156705837
00 season 2 > season 1

Deal with it, fake fan

>>156715769
It passed the 3 episode rule and we always had more than 4 threads hit bump limit same day as episodes. of course you would know this if you were actually in those threads

>>156683369
Delta could have been so good. I was promised mecha capoeira and fancy footwork, received mysterious arab man loredumps instead.

>>156715842
>It passed the 3 episode rule
It did not
>we always had more than 4 threads hit bump limit same day as episodes
It's gundam, it will have that reaction regardless, now get over yourself and go back to Anime Suki.

>>156715881
Delta was the best entry in the franchise hands down, no idea where all this whining comes from (Macross World forums maybe?).

>>156676996
It was awful. Rustal the false flagging illegal weapon spammer "it's okay for me cause they did it first". Making babies with Atra. Forced homo. Muh Bael. Killing the deutagonist by random hitmen the second he starts getting development. Julia's entire existence. Iok randomly dying in the last episode just because they realized Rustal would have a flawless victory otherwise.

Only good thing to come out of it is Barbatos and Gusion eventually getting into games with their big retarded weapons. Music was nice, too.

>>156685171
An overly edgy unhappy ending just for the sake of being edgy is just as bad if not worse than a slapdick happy ending. The problem with IBO is that not only does all of Tekkadan die and all of Gjallahorn get off Scott-free, but it's done for the most bullshit reasons ever. The director and Okada decided to shoehorn an unhappy ending at the last minute just for the sake of edgy drama. Why? Because they failed to make the audience give a shit about any of the characters.

>>156676996
>Is iron blooded orphans the best stand alone gundam series?
Maybe
>Is it the best in general?
Don't think so
Overall i liked the show and i know a ton of people did too. Its only 4chan thats contrarian as usual

>>156715881
Delta was so bad it killed Fujiwara.

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Iron Blooded Ovaries really was worst gundam, at some point you need to stop excusing bad production values for the sake of "muh writing" (hint: ANN and Anime Now)

>>156715732
No way any of those series named are worse than the pile of shit ZZ is.

Also Zeta was nice but the ending was fucking retarded.

S1 of IBO was just fucking boring and failed to make you give a shit about the characters.
S2 was edgy and stupid and also failed to make you give a shit about the characters.

>>156716108
ZZ wasn't bad. It was just a major tone shift from Zeta that understandably frustrated a lot of people. The one flaw I'll admit about ZZ is that Char doesn't even appear once.

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We will never have a worse entry for many years, not even Gundam-san was this bad. Once the cosmic era haters on /m/ are dealt with this will claim the title of worst gundam by the community.

>>156676996
It was good enough to have trolls baiting about how bad it was to this very day

>>156716378
>It was bad enough to have fans point out objective problems about how bad it was to this very day
Fixed for you.

>>156676996
But that's not Thunderbolt

>>156705470
Not those anons but it's very different. I like 08MS but if you're into Gundam for ace-pilots and big outlines instead of focus on footmen it can be off-putting.

It's awful, easily the worst Gundam series.

So it's official? Lauren Orsini is the Anita Sarkesian of mecha anime and Gabriella Eikens is the Zoe Quinn? Gotcha.

>>156716501
Jacob Chapman fits more into Zoe Quinn territory with his wrongful worship over Ikuhara titles. He's als one of those people under the delusion Light Yagami is a villain and not an anti-hero.

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>>156715842
>It passed the three episode rule
Three episode rule is used for 1-cour shows that are typically 12-13 episode long seasons. Not only did the show in its first season hardly have any action, but most of the story arcs after the start of the show literally have nothing of consequence happening until the end.

>barely any action
>horrible production values, worse of any Gundam series in 21 years
>terrible fights
>characters have largely no personalities and most are just talking exposition as literal plot devices
>little action for 2/3rds of season 1
>Kudelia takes up as much screentime as Orga and Mika; story does nothing with this in either season 1 or season 2
>She also flips on her motivaitons and naivety

Then season 2 got actually okay at its start until you realized how dumb Takaki is he couldn't use a phone to see through the white collar faggot's plan, MA plot point that's repeatedly brought up hardly does anything or goes anywhere and Okada and Nagai re-wrote the ending to make the show actually worse then the original proposal would be. Not even going to go into heavy detail on how terrible IBO trying to replicate 00's approach to real politik and scheming failed either.

IBO is a shit show.

>>156716420
Kill yourself.

>>156716378
Using that logic Valvrave and Destiny are the greatest mecha anime ever.

>>156716720
Not that I really want to defend either of those but to the benefit of VVV and GSD, both weren't boring as shit like IBO. Still bad, but at least entertaining as trainwrecks.

>>156716720
Destiny is best gundam while VVV is worse than this

>>156716420
>Thunderbolt
>Stand alone

>A story about child soldiers creating a mercenary group that affiliates itself with different underground illegal organizations and in the end even aids a split faction of a goverments military to stage a coup.
>They lose and die
>everybody mad that the bad guys lost

?????????????????????

>>156716915
No one is mad about the ending, they're mad about the entire rest of the show being shit

Does Thunderbolt count as stand alone?

In time even /m/ will realize CE was never this bad, they're finally realizing how bad 0080 was.

>>156717007
It's a side story that starts during the One Year War so no.

Why do we never get a side-story set during Zeta?

>>156716915
Yeah let's ignore:

>shit animation
>heavy QUALITY
>terrible production values
>bad fights
>almost no action most of season 1
>repeat all of this save the no action part with season 2

Retard.

>>156717023
CE is bad. Seed is barely "okay" and it drops the ball to ape Wing and 0079 about 10 episodes into its story. But DESTINY is complete dogshit.

>>156715975
When is homo not forced to you? When it doesn't exist at all?

>>156676996
No. It's in fact wasted potential despite trying to not salvage existing Gundam plots, doing something fresh and trying to make a setting that is actually interesting (and even then said setting isn't well developed).

S1 started out as a solid, yet flawed one (or flawed, yet solid). S2 started out promising, but after Hamshal it went downhill. Hell, S2 felt like a bunch of side-stories glued together compared to S1 and its "from point A to point B" construction.

The cast was too bloated, there was no character development for them and those who did get character development was insubstantial. And don't get me started with the painfully obvious foreshadowing.

I like IBO and this further infuriates me that a promising Gundam show like it got trampled by bad execution. And if it weren't for Okada, then Nagai would've turned it into a edge-fest.

Also, FUCK DAINSLEIFS.

>>156717187
Because it's smaller-scale conflict that wouldn't work as a stand-alone.

>>156676996
Fuck no

Is IBO the Code Geass of Gundam?

>>156718512
>>156718486

>>156718512
Yes.

>>156718512
Code Geass is the Code Geass of Gundam.

>>156716915
Tekkadan and Turbines were the least evil organization in IBO's universe, memer.

>>156715999
The ending is not even unhappy, in fact that's pretty much the problem.

>>156717239
>But DESTINY is complete dogshit.
Only fake gundam fans believe this.

>>156719396
This statement is correct

>>156715999
>An overly edgy unhappy ending just for the sake of being edgy is just as bad if not worse than a slapdick happy ending.
But its not even unhappy in fact its almost too happy is the problem. Tekkadan got what they wanted and now the remnants that are still alive are living better lives because of their sacrifice. The only bleak aspect of the ending is what becomes of Ride but his actions got that fat fuck from Nobliss killed so it balances it out. The problem with IBO is that it didn't know what it wanted to be and winded up being neither the grittiest entry in the franchise or the most subversion just the most disappointing

>>156718870
This pretty much.

>>156719396
They weren't malicious but they would have been worst for the world by virtue of sheer incompetence.

Seriously, Orga drove Tekkadan off a cliff with all the members cheering for him every step of the way throughout season 2. King of Mars? Fuck that.

>>156720832
That wasn't Orga, that was on McGillis and his shitty plans. Literally the only mistake Orga has ever made was throwing his lot with McGillis without looking deeper into his plans. And it's more than obvious the one who'd actually be ruling Mars would be Kudelia. Also you have to be joking if you think Gjallarhoen beat them by much in terms of competence. Rustal's answer to anyhing was a Daisleif spam, and he lucked out massively by having Tekkadan isolated on the grounds of Iok's retardation as well as Gaelio being alive to sing into his ear everything he needed to know about McGillis' actions.

>>156716376
>it's the retarded shitposter again
Long time no see. Are 3/4 of the posts on this thread yours again?

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>>156716193
>and failed to make you give a shit about the characters
>shit tons of fanarts and merchandise, thousands of tweets crying every time a character died
Look at this retard, look at this retard and laugh. But I bet you tell yourself that people only pretend to care about the characters, right? Kill yourself.

>>156721720
By these standards people cared more about the characters in shit like Kemono Friends. I don't know if I've just grown numb but I cannot feel anything.

>>156720832
Biscuit was the only sane person in Tekkadan with enough backbone to stand up to Orga that Orga would actually listen to. They were fucked as soon as he died. S2 was just missing an "If only Biscuit were here" moment after Orga went full retard on the Chocoman train.

>>156720832
>They weren't malicious
Wrong

>>156721869
They do. The only reason Meme Friends became popular is for the waifufaggotry, not for the "deep" and "complex" story.

>>156721549
>thinking he's a shitposter
Guess that makes you the fake gundam fan working for fake news.

Dainsleif pissed me off to no fucking end
>ey yo senpai there's this weapon your not even allowed to possess let alone fire
>just so happens this military fleet has an entire squad of suits equipped with this weapon without issue
>somehow manages to sneak said weapon into enemy lines to fire on his own fleet to give himself an excuse to fire his
>has the media controlled to give himself another fucking excuse to use it against barbatos because everyone in his army is a fucking useless pilot
literally cheat the win the anime, entire last arc was garbage

>>156719847
Yeah okay Valvavger.

>>156722575
>he thinks that's valvrager

>>156719847
>Only fake gundam fans believe this.
Is this supposed to be an insult? I'd rather be a "fake gundam fan" than a fucking retard who enjoys complete utter garbage like Destiny. What's next? You ain't a true anime fan if you don't like Elfenlied?

>>156676996
Its 00

>>156722779
>he doesn't know what he's talking about

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>>156676996
actual best gundam series reporting in

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>>156712529
Poor kid never got to taste his seed. Now he's gone...

SADNESS SURROUNDS US

>>156704706
>S2's first arc
>good
Fucking please, the entire conflict revolves around Takaki not answering the fucking phone from Mars himself.

Only good part of S2 was Mobile Armor and Idiok.

>>156676996
No and no. It was decent especially at the end, but had lots of contrivances and meh characters.
I appreciate the change of pace from the usual Gundam plot points though.

>>156717976
>Nagai would've turned it into a edge-fest.
When has Nagai ever made an edgefest?

>>156723197
How is that not the case? Bad example whilebeing very wrong.