Why don't you stop pirating and start buying anime? How

>>156669479
>How can you say you like anime if you don't buy it?
What kind of loser actually likes anime? I only watch it to make reading the doujins better.

>>156669479
I don't like it. I'm trying to ruin it through piracy.

Capitalism is preventing me from doing so.
If only there were a good communist nation not filled with dictators.

>>156669479
how many episodes are in that?

>>156669479
So I just found this and it seems to be episodes 1-6 and the price is about $175. That is about $30 an episode. For the price of 2 episodes I can buy a funimation box with 12 bd episodes. This box released in japan doesn't have subs either, just raw anime. I am not weeb enough to speak their little nip-nong-ding-dong-fong language, but I do speak english. The funimation release, despite what people seem to think, has the option of japanese audio with english subs. Now I could spend $250 on a 12 episode series to get a box set I an look at or I can spend $60 on a 12 episode series and get a show I can understand. Every English release also comes with a joke audio track if you want to experience your chinese girly cartoon in a new and hilarious way.

>>156669479
I don't like anime. I just watch it to properly shitpost on /a/

>>156669479
The prices are inhuman.

>>156670537
>Every English release also comes with a joke audio track
So, the official dub then?

Even in Japan nobody actually purchases anime outside of the rental industry, high sales figures are entirely the result of establishments purchasing surplus copies of the same.

>>156669479
>wasting money in entertainment
leech if you can leech, move on if you can't but don't waste your hard earned money on shit like that

>>156670724
I see you heard of it as well.

>>156669479
Why would I when it is aired for free in Japan?

I watch anime for entertainment, but i couldn't give two shits about the industry. If studios stopped making anime then I wouldn't really care

I would buy anime if I could get the Japanese releases for US prices

>>156669479
>How can you say you like anime if you don't buy it?
How can I like anime if I don't watch it first?

>19,440 JPY
>box 1
nice price

I like anime because it's free

Why would I spend money on anime when there are tons of weebs out there shelling out cuck bucks in my stead?

>>156671295
You need to go back.

>>156669479

>BOX1
>almost $200

How many episodes are in BOX1? Is it two? Please don't tell me it's two.

I would pirate food, electricity, water and the roof under my head if I could.
If it's free, it's free. Can't compete with that.

>>156671355
Look up box
read description
???
Prophet

>>156671540
>xD
Leave and take OP with you.

>>156669479
But I do you mongrel.
The thing is most of the good stuff gets shitty official subs, never gets brought over because THINK OF THE CHILDREN and because most of the time they don't have English subs.
I do however import them once in a while ONLY if I like it enough but usually import the manga or figures the most.

If you can easily buy a particular anime, you can probably still find it without much issue even without private trackers.

>>156670007
Half of the first episode.

>>156669479
>$200 for two episodes of a shitty anime about furries

I wonder how much it would cost for the average anon to "buy" all of the anime he has torrented.

``It is not the slumber of reason which engenders monsters, but vigilant and insomniac rationality.'' - Gilles Deleuze

>>156672334
I watch 1-3 +/- shows per season average. This is insane

I can't wait for 3D printing to advance so I can pirate figures.

>>156669479
I pirate things and watch them, then if I like them enough I will buy them, this goes for anime, music and western films. Why? Because I can. I buy figs too sometimes.

>>156672334
>wonder how much it would cost for the average anon to "buy" all of the anime he has torrented.

If we just say on the conservative side that the average anon has seen 300 1-cour anime in his lifetime (which I think is pretty low for many of us), with each season consisting of 6 volumes of bluray releases at $200 per volume, that comes to a total cost of $360,000 to own 300 series.

>>156672434
low quality

Do japs still tape airing anime on VHS?

>>156669479
What extra bullshit comes with this to make it that expensive? I know Japanese Blu rays are expensive but it's usually like $70 per volume not $200.

>>156672486
They record it on Bluray.

>>156672474
Given that the OP is $175 for 6/12 episodes, the more realistic number for 300 shows is $105,000. Still ridiculous, of course.

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>>156672410
>1-3 +/-

>>156672495
It's 6 episodes instead of 3/4.

You can buy two entire seasons of anime in America for less than 2 episodes cost in japan.

Apparently the Japanese are happy selling only 1200 discs, while a seasonal hit anime can move 6,000 to 10,000.

In America a shit direct to video disc will move 200,000 copies because it only costs $16.

>buy our new CD single for only $32!
>Buy our new eroge for $90!
>buy 13 episodes of anime for $390!

This is why we can't have nice things.

>>156672574
It's still as much as a house.

>>156670724
DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

>>156669752
>Communism
>Good

>>156672454
>I pirate things and watch them then if I like them enough I will buy them

Has there very been a definite example of a single person actually doing it? At best I have seen faggots purchasing shit on sale years after they've """enjoyed it""" just to feel good about owning it in their collection. It was used half of the time too.

Literally not a single fucking person who spews that bullshit has actually gotten his ass up and went to buy a show or game right after consuming and enjoying it.

It's a fucking myth perpetuated through hypocricy of pirates and excuses of shows not being """good enough""" unless it's a time-proven 9/10 classic.

>>156672334
>I wonder how much it would cost for the average anon to "buy" all of the anime he has torrented.

That is like asking how much it cost the average American family to watch all 28 seasons of Simpsons, plus south park and family guy.

These are TV shows. They magically appear in your home every night for free (or as part of basic cable/satelite).

Owning TV shows is historically a very, very new phenomenon that is only embraced by a small minority of viewers.

>>156672676
The problem is in Japan, sales aren't elastic enough to respond to lower prices to make it worth dropping. They generally make more selling $80/disc than they would at lower prices.

>>156672676
The difference here is

>the miracle that is anime
vs.
>the 8th season of some shitty sitcom starring a bunch of unfunny Jews with a laugh track telling you when you're supposed to laugh

The anime does warrant paying a premium, but Nips could inject a serious amount of cash into their anime industry if they understood how to market to overseas audiences directly.

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>>156669479
>How can you say you like anime if you don't buy it?
>implying free anime doesn't make me like it more

>>156671054
Cable is free huh faggot

>>156669479
I do buy my anime ezcept for Fate Kaleid Shit since it's shit and it's borderline illegal in my country.

>>156672676
At those prices the company is making $500,000 instead of only $60,000 they world make selling a full season.

Answer me this:

HOW THE FUCK AM I TO KNOW IF I LIKE AN ANIME ENOUGH TO BUY IT OR NOT IF I DON'T WATCH IT FIRST!?

I always shell out the cash for the expensive as fuck Box Sets for the shows I like. It's one of the ways in which I support those series and studios that I think are DESERVING of my money for producing a GOOD product.

I borrow a book form the library. If I like it, I'll buy a copy. If not, FUCK OFF!

>>156669479
The last anime I liked enough to even consider buying was meduka. The last anime I liked enough to go I must have this was Aria. Make shit I like and I'll buy it. Make retarded chuuni harem shit and I won't.

>>156672886
>watching all 28 seasons of The Simpsons
Are you a masochist?

>>156669479
I live in a third world country where the only way I can access anime is through torrents or the various sites that allow me to watch for free.

>>156672949
>I always shell out the cash for the expensive as fuck Box Sets for the shows I like. It's one of the ways in which I support those series and studios that I think are DESERVING of my money for producing a GOOD product.

I used to think like this too, when I was in high school and my only income was from a part time job or an allowance I got from doing chores around the house.

>>156672949
Everything gets a legal Stream these days. Even LWA and ID-0 have a Netflix stream upcoming. For the most part there is a legal stream still available on most recent anime and many big older shows.


One problem with the lost of Nyaa is that most of the shows difficult to find without Nyaa are also difficult to buy through official channels for being unlicensed or out of print.

>>156673072
you can't afford 200 USD for 1/4th a season of anime?

>>156672949
>buying the western box set
You know the studio already got their money for licensing it, right? They don't care how many western units are moved. Its a drop of water in the ocean.

>>156672848
I can confirm I do it but I'm not stupid enough to prove it on here, not that I know how to anyway so you'll have to take my word for it. Now obviously I don't do it for everything because shipping is expensive as fuck, but if I like something enough while I watch (seasonal or not) it I'll buy it because I have nothing better to spend my money on.
>It's a fucking myth perpetuated through hypocricy of pirates and excuses of shows not being """good enough""" unless it's a time-proven 9/10 classic.
Some people actually do it like myself, but otherwise I think you're right that for the most part it's just bullshit to defend piracy. I don't really care about the morality of justifications of it though so don't bother telling me about it.

>>156673120
Anime streaming services have a poor amount of shows available outside of the US. It has most of the airing shows but they disappear after a while (and I don't watch unfinished shows). It's not really a solution.

I don't buy anime physically because that would hurt our precious environment, you shit lord.
I know you're going to ask me why i don't use crunchyroll next, right you piece of shit? Well, I'm not even American so fuck Crunchyroll and fuck white people

>>156672848
I bought all the Lucky Star DVDs when they were on sale for $4 on amazon.

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>Hey, guys! Have you considered a CR subscription?

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There will always be a place for illegal online activities thanks to based Russia.

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This thread show me why /a/ should be abandoned.
It started as a futaba copy site, but its features are completely opposite to that.
Futaba user has many creator, so illegal uploading is taboo there.
Why are thieves who do not have the power to create anything themselves so ugly.
SHHHHHHHHHIT.

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Because I only pay for physical products that have a real value.

>>156673442
Epic roleplaying

>>156673085
RIght, when you actually knew the value of money.

>>156669479
>half of my monthly income for 2 eps
How about no?

>>156672574
I have seen over a thousand shows, my archive alone is over 700 folders (BDs and DVDs only)

Would still cost twice as much as my house.

>>156673316
I love when poorfags from South American shitholes call him privileged. He doesn't know how to react.

>>156673165
I'm still a student and broke af.

>>156673637
sucks to be you. thats only like an hour of work in a real country

>>156673720
...okay. Good to know.

>>156673720
Good post

>>156669479
I mostly watch BD releases. I'll consider buying a anime if I enjoy it and have legitimate digital access to the BD version.

I already own several physical copies of localized Visual Novels and have a MangaGamer account with digital access to 20+ of them. Buying isn't particularly a problem for me but space is a concern (hence I'm only interested on digital access to the BD version).

Also, it's extremely important to know if the western version is the exact same as the japanese BD version, has japanese audio and proper subs.

>>156673559
>only making $400 a month
Work harder.

>>156670666
Satan speaks the truth. There's no fucking way I'd spend that much money on an incomplete set.

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Has anyone tried this sire yet?

https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/

>>156673924
I'm paid higher than median income in my city.

>>156671071
Well, don't come to here,you fag.

>>156672676
It's anime, westernfags and most japs won't buy anything even with a price drop, they already tied that years ago.
Anime disks is a niche hobby.

>>156672940
You have my sympathies, Canadabro

>>156672848
>>156673228

yes, there are people that do it. believe it or not, weeb skills + computers can actually lead to some of us "making it" in the real world, and having disposable income. it is comfy to have some manga, box sets, and figmas from especially moving or satisfying series'/one-offs, etc. organized and on display, after having first watched them for free. and, no, not used, because what's the point if it's not shrinkwrapped and/or perfect in quality? if you want to not buy, great. if you want to buy some after having watched them, for whatever reason you see fit, also great. :) you also disgust me for suggesting that used copies (outside of Japan, as used copies in Japan are insanely cheap and often in mint condition) are actually worth a damn. if it weren't for the internet, though, I would have no interest whatsoever in purchasing at the exorbitant prices... not to mention the fact that many thing you cannot even buy in certain regions regardless of whether or not you are willing to pay.

Why is it basically impossible to buy digital downloads for anything but video games? Why can't I just go online and buy all of the NGE blu-ray digitally right now?

>>156674204
return to reddit, and take your morals with you.

>>156673442
Time for you to go, ESL-kun.

>>156674318
E-Manga, Project-H and Fakku have digital downloads for manga and ero manga (The latter 2 are DRM-free). But those are only reading materials.

R18 has digital downloads, but low quality and shackled with DRM. You have to play the videos in their own media player. There are also other sites that offer digital downloads but only PPV - you get to download to keep, but the videos are not bound to your account forever.

>>156674318
I would pay to get the whole blu-ray ISOs for any type of content desu, not just animu.

Anybody offering that service? No? Then I ain't paying for shit.

I'm supporting the idea that every anime/scan should be free and we can support the creators through goodies/direct donation depending on how
much we loved it.

>>156674137
Is there 80% unemployment in your city or something?

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To be honest, Nips don't care about exporting any anime or manga or LN. Especially despite the high average earnings there is no market value in the United States and Europe because of spreading of scanlation and piracy.
Conversely, Chinese distribution companies are becoming a big source of income for anime industry.

>>156674740
I suppose you also think taxes are unconstitutional and we should decide whether or not we want roads by donating to some nebulous fund

>>156674873
It's just third world shithole

>>156674886
why do you think piracy is so big in the west? it surely doesn't have anything to do with the fact that lots of material isn't available

>>156674886
>scanlation
>spreading

Nice try, Shlomo.

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>>156671381
>roof under my head
>under

>>156675017
What is available is butchered to shit anyway. Streaming is the video equivalent of always-online DRM.

>>156675017
>it surely doesn't have anything to do with the fact that lots of material isn't available

I'm still waiting for commercially released dog days BDs.

>>156671381
> roof under my head
That's a weird house you have there Anon

>>156669479
I would eat up anime's shit so I obviously love it

>>156674886
Nips don't care about doing it themselves, because there are western companies doing it for them after buying the licenses.
Nips also don't care about trying to distribute anime in China, because there are Chinese companies doing it for them after buying their licenses.
And the Chinese are also starting to pay less for the licenses after they had to buy anime licenses in package deals with lots of terrible shit-selling anime that nobody in China or Japan wants to see.

>>156671381
Go to the PLA.

>>156669479
>Why don't you just spend nearly 200 dorrars plus importation fee for maybe four episodes, none of which are translated

Gee, I'm not sure why I never thought of that.

>>156669479
Not even nips buy them. They air on TV for a reason.

>>156675742
Not on all channels, though.
That's why nips are actually starting to use their own domestic streaming services to watch anime, instead of hoping that whatever local tv station in their region might perhaps air that show, if at all.

>>156669479

>tell people to stop pirating anime
>post an anime that will likely have 10k+ sales or more and doesn't need any support

Might as well tell them to buy more monogatari or madoka BD's, that'll sure support the industry. You should only tell people to buy anime they really like, that has shit sales, things that sell over 100k BD's will never see much of that profit return to the anime industry.

>>156669479
>implying I'm not broke as fuck and living in debt
>implying I can afford spending hundreds of dollars a week to watch random shit

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>>156675742
Internet distribution is becoming mainstream now even in nipland. The rest is theatrical version. And a mountain of goods and original manga and LN.

>>156669479
I DONT HAVE THE MEANS TO PAY IT FUCK OFF

>>156676027
This begs the question: Where do you get the stats to gauge the sales performance of a show to begin with?

>>156672932
>2000+17
>still using cables
Dumb amerifats. Here in Russia every elementary schooler knows how to make a functional TV antenna out of tinfoil.

>>156669479
>costs a fortune for a 12 episode anime
>have to wait half a year after the last episode airs on TV before I can buy it
Yeah nope, I'm downloading it

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>>156669479
Cause I'm not a millionaire yet.
Although with the money I would spend on anime I could alleviate world hunger and cure cancer

>>156676244
I bet the rushkies are too busy turning those tinfoil into some kind of make-shift filter so that they can drink hair shampoo when there's no vodka around anymore, instead of wasting it to watch TV.
And if they could, they would probably distill vodka out of a TV parts.

>>156676373
Nigga please, we were making purpa drank out of fucking BF glue when you were not even born.

>>156673838
If anyone has suggestions for what I want I'll appreciate it.

>>156676464
Lately slopes have started to understand they actually have a market here, so at least some jap releases get subs and are not region-locked, even if there is an official US license.

Certainly the case with LWA, and Horizon before that as well, but there they had literally vale translating.

>>156673398
>There will always be a place for illegal online activities thanks to based Russia.

Nyaa and Sukebei are both banned in Russia by the government.

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Once you go digital, you never go back.

>>156672848
I would assume 7 times out of 10 somebody leeches something with no intention of ever paying anything. But if the person is good enough, and they have the expendable income, they will pay.

I would if i weren't tight on cash. For music at least anyway. Like hell i am going to pay 130$ for like a 6 episode blu ray anime set. Or whatever the going rate is for a movie these days, after i may have already seen it in theaters anyway.

>>156676642
Did you have the presense of mind to back it all up, at least?

>>156676705
Yes. Stuff from Denpasoft are DRM-free anyway. That's the kind of service worth paying for.

>>156676800
Agreed. I`m going full GOG whenever possible and hoard my chinese moving pictures.
Fucking knew it was going to become useful one day, never hated to be right so much.

>>156672848
I do that a lot. Having it in physical form is the same as owning merchandise to me. And I buy a lot of that. Its a great feeling and fills my soul.

>$150 + shipping for 6 episodes

>>156676895
Not so bad for 6. I`m paying something around 500$ for LWA.

>>156669479
Japanese Anime Blu-Ray Discs are merchandise though.
If you want to watch older stuff there you rent it and don't buy it.

>>156677164
>It's fine to gouge when we call it merchandise and not content

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>>156669479
I'm not going to pay like $50 per BD box unless it's an anime that I absolutely love.
So yeah I'm downloading this shit and only buying LNs in bulks.

>>156673838
Paying for digital is pure cancer, if you only want digital then just pirate it, don't pay for it.

>>156678088
>Paying for digital is pure cancer
Retard

>>156669479
I won't buy 0s and 1s.

>>156678088
Nobody actually pays for digital content. The only thing they pay for is convenience.

>>156678156
Whats retarded is giving your money to a for profit entity and getting nothing in return, which is what happens when you buy digital.
I've stopped buying games when I redpilled myself on the cancer that is digital. I bought an older early 2000's PC game that actually came with a nice box and the entire working game on the actual discs and I vowed to never pay for a game, movie/show, CD that doesn't come physically with all of the content on the discs DRM free ever again.
I don't mind the shift to digital since it just saves me a lot of money since I am not wiling to pay for it.

>>156669479
holy shit that shit is expensive

>>156672848
I did this with Kimi No Na Wa. I saw it in theaters yesterday because the day before I downloaded it and watched it. It was really good so I wanted to see the dub and help their box office numbers

>>156678478
>collecting physical garbage is better

Okay.

>>156676895
>limited edition

Seems fine to me.

>>156678478
If you don't pay for things you enjoy how do you expect to continue getting more? We don't live in a world where everything is free. We need money to survive.

People sacrifice their time to do some things we enjoy. Do you want them to get nothing in return? Do you think their work being ackowledged by someone will feed them?

It's fine if you don't want to pay for the content you enjoy but don't act like you and others entitled to it. Not to mention that you even encourage others to pirate such content if they want to buy a digital copy...

Let yourself have others support your entertainment while you're sitting there doing nothing. Don't be surprised if things change for the worse over time.

Also:
>for profit entity
I suppose you believe the Japanese companies are profit entities as well?

>getting nothing in return
Related to your own subjective opinion because you don't see value on this type of content.

>>156672848
I do this with manga. Cause tankobons cost like 4 bucks

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>Why don't you stop pirating and start buying anime?
I buy Manga or other source material because im not a pleb, I been doing this since i was 8.
My ceiling is literally filled with volumes of my old shounenshit in giant container bags because my regular closet don't have any more room.
>How can you say you like anime if you don't buy it?
The day Jewpress and the general market in nipland start porting shit and a reasonable rate that isn't half to a whole year for a fucking TL, when some loser linguist major delivers within weeks if not hours for free?

Are you one of those butthurt sliteyes that think all westeners are out to kill anime?

>>156679394
You can buy an 8 season show with director's commentary, cast interviews, how it's made, a poster or some kind of advertisement they used for the same price for American made shows.

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Crunchyroll will always be free, but you should upgrade your account for more benefits! Crunchyroll is one of the few legal, official anime and drama streaming sites out there, and since we revenue-share with our partners, you'll be supporting anime creators and the rest of the industry.

>>156669479
Convenience. Getting anime in the format and quality I want is not convenient when being bought through normal means, which will never change.
I even have money. Money isn't and never has been the issue.

>>156679817
A ton of anime in HD for $100 a year vs this shit >>156669479?

Fuck it I'm a Crunchyroller now

>>156679817
Call me back when CR provide the same kind of service as >>156676642

>>156676585
>Nyaa and Sukebei are both banned in Russia by the government.
Incorrect. Some of cloudflare ip which sukebei uses are banned, so it's unreachable half of the time. Regular nyaa is alvays available.

>>156679817
Wow, this really opened my eyes to how meaningless all thie really is.
Thanks Crunchyroll™ for making my life much easier and taking my guilt away!

>>156672848
I bought the complete NGE series on DVD because its the only way to physically own it, and im a collector. Lots of people do this, especially with special editions. Stop being a faggot

>>156679408
>If you don't pay for things you enjoy how do you expect to continue getting more?
I don't, you dumbfuck. Everything good must end. Any creator degrades given enough time, so you shouldn't give them more time. Dying on a peak of one's fame is the highest honor for a man.

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>>156676642
Jesus Christ, those parts. Blessed be MangaGamer.

>>156680363
>Buying porn

How am I supposed to purchase anime + figures+ merchandise to support these people? I mean they expect like $50 for 3 episodes like what the fuck that should be a whole series.

>>156680311
Talk about missing the point.

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>>156680363
MangaGamer is alright, with a small caveat of one-time-activation DRM for some older titles. Still more tolerable than fucking streaming.

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>>156670537
>For the price of 2 episodes I can buy a funimation box with 12 bd episodes
you know, you kind of sound like you were sent here by your supervisor at funimation to try to sell us anime

>>156680769
All Circus games are currently DRM free. It's strange you're still seing the option to request another activation code on Da Capo.

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>>156679817
say, how much does crunchyroll pays you as their social manager?

I don't buy dvd's, I buy figures and CDs of shows I like.

>>156676642
>>156680363
>>156680769
>tfw you need to jump through so many hurdles to buy and watch Grisaia anime/Da Capo anime in contrast to what you do to play Grisaia/Da Capo