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Griffith literally did nothing wrong. Also I'm pretty

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Griffith literally did nothing wrong. Also I'm pretty sure Casca liked it.
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All haill Griffith!
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>>156589852
He took it in the butt once
pretty sure he something wrong there
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>>156589852
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>>156589852
I'm tired of these threads. DELET!
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>>156589852
i liked it too
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Why did Casca tell Guts to look away instead of telling Griffith to stop pounding her?
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A part of Casca obviously liked it. She was rescued by Griffith and devoted her body and soul to him but he only ever saw her as a chess piece. The point of the rape I think is that it's a twisted realisation of her fantasy, she finally gets recognised as a woman by Griffith but in the worst way possible, and after she had already accepted it and moved on. Having Guts watch also I think is about the fact that Guts replaced her as Griffith's favourite, which she resented. She probably dreamed of banging Griffith and becoming the favourite again before she developed feelings for Guts. The eclipse rape is a twisted culmination of all her conflicting feelings over the years.

This is why >>156593637 happens.

I do love this "Casca liked it" meme but there is honestly so much going on in that scene, I can't think of any other rape scenes with so much depth.
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>>156593693
Deepest lore
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>>156589852
When Guts first inspects the behelit why does it look at him?
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>>156593806
it knows
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>>156589852
I canĀ“t wait for Falconia to be destroyed.
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He had the world on his hand, but destroyed all his chances at winning with his own inability to cope with the loss of a single soldier.
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The thing he did wrong was banging the princess because Guts left.

>>156593902
this
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I was gonna start a new thread but I'll just appropriate this one instead.

Okay so you know how Farnese and Schrieke are sorting through her old memories? Why aren't they seeing her gash flood for Griffith? Why aren't they seeing Griffith at all? He was such a huge part of her life. She loved him all the way from absurd devotion as a loli, to fangirl as a teen, to "be txting him while in bed w/ my bf" when she's a young adult.

So what is going on? Will unlocking the eclipse restore all her memories of Griffith? Are they all being repressed by that one event? Why is it different? Why can they find the memories of Guts but not Griffith? Griffith was so important to the both of them.

Simple answer is that Miura is tired of NTR and edge.
Complicated answer is, well, I honestly can't think of one that isn't a complete asspull.
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>>156594015
Sex with the princess destroyed Griffith, and sex with Casca will destroy Femto (demon child mofo).

Bear in mind both sex were done while thinking of Guts.
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>>156594036
>Why aren't they seeing her gash flood for Griffith?
probably because there is only 1 chapter out of the new arc...
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>>156594036
The first panel is drawn so well, then it just turns back into shit.

Miura please stop teasing me
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>>156594036
Because they haven't got to the Griffith bits yet? She's probably keeping all the love for Griffith in the same locker where she keeps the Eclipse. It's different because the Eclipse was the trigger for her shattered mental state, so it makes sense to me that all her Griffith memories are in the same place.

You're right that Miuru is tired of edge, but at least wait until they've finished exploring the brain before complaining about it
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>>156594236
Didn't he switch to digital drawing recently? I think he's just getting used to it, kind of a shame to have such a dip in the art so far into it though
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>>156593835
W-What?
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>>156593693
I agree but also want to add 2 points
1). Godhand cocks probably feel really good. As much as we like to think otherwise, chicks can't just will away orgasms because they don't want them.
2). Technically Casca was really "over" Griffith. She was getting jealous of Charlotte during the rescue (while admitting she's acting like a huge bitch) and after seeing the state Griffith was in decided she would care for him for the rest of his days (albeit out of pity and obligation).
Guts was convincing her that she should come with him and that Judeau could take care of Griffith when he hijacked the wagon and the Eclipse started. So we never reached a conclusion, but she definitely wasn't "over" him. Not completely.
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>>156594160>
It's just that Casca's mind pre-eclipse should really be like Griffith Griffith Griffith Griffith Griffith Brown Guy Griffith Griffith Griffith Griffith Guts Griffith Griffith
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>>156594552
wasn't*

leave it to me to screw up the most important part of the post.
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>>156593806
>"This nigger gonna fuck everything up"
or
>"This nigger gonna become the sixth Godhand HELP"

or Guts is just such a delectable branded that the behelit had to sample the goods.
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>>156594552
Getting sexual pleasure has nothing to do with whether or not she enjoyed the experience though, apparently orgasm during rape is pretty common.

I agree that she wasn't over him, I think she has feelings for both Griffith and Guts, but Guts is the realistic option and she had moved on in the sense of accepting that the Griffith path isn't going to happen. I think a key moment comes earlier though, after Guts beats Griffith, Casca watches Guts walk away and calls after him, instead of running to the side of Griffith.
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>>156594036
>Schrieke and Farnese both vicariously experience Casca's deflowering

Miura fucking won't. No balls. Even if he does, he'll def skip the part where Casca gets choked out and Guts talks about how he was BLACKED.
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>demon are literally finger fucking casca with barbed log-like fingers, leaving her in extreme pain

I highly doubt she could even feel a horse by that point.
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>>156594981
>apparently orgasm during rape is pretty common.
Tfw hentai is real
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>>156594981
The love she had for Guts was definitely more "true". I mean really, dudes were falling for Griffith. Here we have a straight girl in adolescence surrounded by fat, beefy, sweaty mercs and also canonically the hottest in-universe character that exists.
Coupled with his natural charisma and the aphrodisiac of power? You'd have to be missing a chunk of your brain not to fall deep for him. It's not like we saw them converse much, or click on a personal level during the Golden Age arc either.
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>>156595316
Yeah this is the gist of it I think, Griffith was literally her knight in shining armour, but that fairytale stuff is pretty superficial
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>>156595316
There's absolutely nothing to suggest that Casca isn't any less shallow than Charlotte.
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>>156595419
News flash most women are shallow
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Who else expects Guts to become the 6th Godhand and rape Farnese in front of Rodrick, who then acquires the Berserker's Boat and begins his quest of revenge?
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>>156595518
It's not like Guts had a large number of romantic choices either though.

It was either Casca or Griffith. Both objectively hot as balls.
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>>156595571
meant for >>156595479
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>>156595297
>>apparently orgasm during rape is pretty common.
I've heard that a lot but is it true? I've watched enough Law&Order to know there's often a lot of tears and bruises. And that can't be very pleasurable right?
I'd believe it in cases of date rape or roofies though.
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>>156589852
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>super devoted kawaii brown girl to your left
>super devoted swordsexual brown boy to your right
>brown boy kicks your ass in a duel
>brown girl chases after him
>fuck some bitch
>get tortured for a year
>brown girl and boy save you
>"Yay you came for me! You both love me aft-"
>they're making out behind your back
>brown boy be like "c'mon bitch, ditch this crippled nigger and come crash with me."
>brown girl be like "geez I totally would but I gotta wipe this loser's ass for the rest of his shitty life"
He HAD to do it.
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Casca is a slut, demon cock or not, she should have said stop instead of look away like she simply wanted to hide the fact from the cuck lover GUts
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>>156595945
This from the movie? I thought it was interesting how they modernized the rape scene. Miura drew it using h-manga as a reference and so Studio 4C animated it like a h-anime.
I wonder how it'd be different if he drew it now?
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>>156596245
And where would we be if she said "look"?
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>>156596304
When a Japanese girl says no, don't look, or stop it means the exact opposite
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>>156595047
Are you kidding? He's itching to draw some tits, he fucking NEEDS to
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>>156596371
It depends on what vernacular she's using. Like when she goes Y-yade... yade when the guy pulling down her panties.
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>>156596383
Don't project onto Miura. He wants to draw lolis. He even threw in tiny chibi Cascas along with the Little Witch Academia fan tribute he's drawing.
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>>156596506
>along with the Little Witch Academia fan tribute he's drawing.
Fuck I wish I knew his taste was this good before hand
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>Also I'm pretty sure Casca liked it.
no heart pupils, clearly rape.
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>>156596691
They weren't invented yet
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>>156596446
You seem to have extensive knowledge of this
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>>156589852
t. ANN
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>>156598637
Fucking SJWs man.
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>>156589852
Casca may not have liked it, but I did.
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>>156598637
Taking themselves way too seriously I take it?
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>>156598671
I don't think SJWs like Berserk
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Reminder that without Griffith the Kushans would've conquered the entire continent and impregnated all the white women (I'm not even being /pol/ here, the Kushan king explicitly says it).

So does a hundred-odd men and a rape really outweigh that? Said men were all themselves killers, who had all likely taken the life of at least one good man at some point.
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>>156599960
I quit tumblr 5 years ago and was amongst that crowd of insufferable cunts and they all seemed to like it back then.
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>>156600038
I thought they would've been turned off by all the rape and shit.
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PUT YOUR GRASSES ON
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>>156600083
Well the rapes are treated as bad things. In fact, rapes in Berserk are the ultimate symbol of "bad". They're the worst thing possible. More than death.
And rape trauma is exaggerated too. Casca seeing her friends die didn't break her, the rape did. Rape broke Griffith and Guts as well. Berserk puts a lot of gravity on sex and rape.

And as you said SJWs don't like rape so it's perfect for them.
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>>156600139
Nothing will be wrong?
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>>156600462
wong*
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>>156589852
Nice meme.
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>>156600311
Hmm. When you think of it like that, as one of the 3 lead characters Casca was long overdue for her rape trauma.
It's actually hilarious how easy she spread her legs for Guts considering her entire role in the Golden Age was to be almost raped by every bad guy.
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>>156595852
yeah that's why people get triggered by "asking for it" and "enjoyed it" memes. If you're a beta nu-male (and conceited) like me its probably the most horrific aspect, the girl you live could get drilled by a thug and it will have been way better than anything you could do for her, she'll never look at you the same for 1) not having saved her 2) being a baby-back bitch who can't give her good dick.
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In 1 single episode-

Fucking 1 single meeting like 4-5 of the greatest warriors from midland come to this buttfuck nowhere town to serve griffith

Am I missing something here? Is this part of his weird power or was that just bad writing?
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>>156592513
Hypocrite
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>>156595945
I recognize that demonic bulge.
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>>156589852

Griffith is a fuccboi and him getting blown out was the best moment the series has had in 10 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfD7nScwPb8
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>>156599967
the rape is bottom line man. all the killing is arguably justifiable, worth the cost or just an inevitable part of Griffith's path to power. the rape signifies the complete inversion of Griffith's integrity and moral compass. Pre-Guts Griffith would never have done anything so twisted, spiteful and petty as rape a girl in front of her dude, but being confronted with Guts's strength of character erodes him until he rapes the lover of the only person he could truly call a friend.
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>>156600572
Find a dyke to make you their padawan. They're proof that a good tongue can beat a shitty dick. And these thugs can't even get laid properly so I bet they got nothing on dyke-sensei.
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>>156600722
I wonder if he feels ANY remorse
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>>156600722
He popped a stiffy and sampled the goods. It's Casca's fault for being such a bitch and losing her mind. Femto was just tryin to say "ayy babe sorry bout killing your comrades" and make her feel good.
It's not like Guts was like "pls don't fuck my girlfriend, thanks", just a bunch of unintelligible shouting.
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>>156595852
>is trying to fight some stranger off of you as they forcibly penetrate you pleasurable

idk anon bend over real quick.
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>>156600872
If Guts wasn't a repressed little bitch on the hill of swords and just came right out and said "okay I got the sacrifice stuff, but why did you fuck my girlfriend while staring into my eyes?"
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>>156600791
thats not a bad idea sempai
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>>156600892
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>>156600722
But that's the thing Griffith never considered guts his equal or friend. Which is why guts had to leave. And when guts prevailed Griffiths ego crumbled and he realized he had a deep love for guts (homo or platonic w/e) and then he went and fucked Charlotte to numb his pain and shit goes down. He was hurt by guts rejection and further more blames him for his situation and for casca rejecting his crippled ass. Honestly if Griffith and guts had just talked we'd have avoided this entire mess. But no Griffith and his fucking ego. Guts was a good boy, just wanted to be accepted as an equal and swing around his sword.
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>>156600892
Where do you get your pot?
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>>156601038
its a fucking tragedy. Griffith COULD have called him a friend, but he never did. Causality.
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>>156589852
I would love to know if there is even a single person in this world who 100% unrionically believes that Griffith did nothing wrong.
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>>156600941
People really like that chapter but Guts acted like a fucking tool.
>has been traveling around killing apostles.
>has seen how powerful they are.
>has seen how they are made.
>has seen what is used to make them.
>has seen those who wish to become apostles struggle with the decision whether or not to sacrifice.
>"Hur duuuuuuuuuuurrrrr WHY DID U DO THAT GRIFFITH?!!!!"

Take a wild fucking guess dumbass. He was a cripple and has always wanted a Kingdom. Put two and two together.
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>>156601038
>>156601083
Did Grffith think of Guts as a friend before he left?
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>>156601083
Griffith fucked himself by trying to impress Charlotte with his pretentious moonspeech.
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>>156601279
Probably. But he couldn't admit it or say it aloud.
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Reminder that there was one person who actually cared for Guts and Guts killed him
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>>156595410
>Griffith was literally her knight in shining armour,
tfw your knight in shining armor is getting his asshole wrecked
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>>156594036
Why does Miura suck so much dick now?
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>>156594160
Maybe, but bonfire of dreams heavily involved Griffith too.
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>>156601460
Digital is it's own medium and it's hard to adapt after the textile sharpness of pencil. Also everybody has huge fucking noses for some reason.
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>>156601396
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>>156601169
Griffith/Casca shippers from way back.
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I forgot, what happened to Charlotte after her father died?
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>>156601791
She was about to get fucked by the Kushan king as a way to make a Kushan the rightful heir to Midland's throne, but Griffith saved her.
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>>156601279
By his own words to Charlotte he didn't. But the way he treated guts was different from anyone else in the band. And it took guts rejection for him to realize he lost his friend. That mixed with the blow to his massive ego.
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>>156601294
He fucked himself by not asking guts why he wanted to leave. He fucked himself by not admiring to guts he loved him, regardless of whether it was a homolust love or platonic close best friend love. If he had communicated to guts things would've been different. Or had guts just told Griffith "hey I'm leaving and forging my own dream so we can be equals one day." But guts isn't that kinda man. He just swung his sword and humiliated Griffith.
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>>156589852
What Griffith did wrong is he raped Casca instead of Guts
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>>156600584
They all dreamed of the bird
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>>156602977
This
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>>156602905
just because Griffith said XYZ, doesn't necessarily mean that he felt/thought like that
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i've been following berserk for like 12 years now(yeah, i know, newfag), but up until now i couldn't even consider the possibility of Casca actually liking the rape. But it actually would make so much sense though. Although could explain how SK's prophecy will come through once she comes to her senses
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Was Griffith actually gay for Guts? Why didnt he just rape him?
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>>156603876
because thanks to donovan-senpai, guts was already immune to him being raped
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>>156603876
>Was Griffith actually gay for Guts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzRMDkDMWNA
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>Griffith becomes a skinny faggot hipster
>has everything handed to him, all he has to do is being a backstabbing bitch
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>>156600710
Alright that was amazing. And he walked out alive after that.
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>>156589852
>Gayfith literally did nothing wrong.
Him being a literal butthurt faggot that cause a downfall to himself is fucking retard.
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>>156604296
No. I think going with "he was gay" was just oversimplifying things when Griffith was a complicated person. I think he simultaneously Guts as his finest tool, but also grew to care for him and respect him. He also made Griffith forget about his dream and that pissed Griffith off. Not to mention he eventually figured out he stole Casca from him as well.
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>>156589852
Memez xD

How about you just fucking say "yo dogs its a berserk thread" It'd be the same quality, but at least it wouldn't be a completely nebulous fucking lie.Everyone knows the meme so how could it possibly be funny?The only value it could possibly have is if people genuinely thought you thought griffith was justified.Of course you wouldn't bother arguing that he was.Fuck you.
>>156596167
Griffith killed himself
>>156596245
OH LOLZ anon you know what?I'll give you a gold little star!SO CUTE
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>>156589852
Yeah right. It's not like he's a faggot, traitor and a dick of unimaginable proportions for sacrificing whole band of the hawk who saw him not only as a leader but also a friend, to fulfill his dream which he would achieve anyways by marrying a princess.
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>>156589852
If you really think so, then it's good that behelits don't exist. It scares me to think what would become of the anons of /a/. Btw what's with this retarded ''did nothing wrong'' meme? How did it come to be?
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>>156589852
The manga is going full tsubasa chronicles with gathering those clay bits. Miura will have just enough time to write an Ah! My Goddess ending to Berserk before dying of too little integrety.
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>>156605170
>Not to mention he eventually figured out he stole Casca from him as well.
Casca was always just a tool for him, like the rest of the Band of the Hawks.
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>>156606913
George RR Martin and Miura have a lot of similarities in their workflow. They are slow, unstable, and their art keeps deteriorating.
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>>156606977
They will both die before completing their works too.
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>>156605265
Can someone carbon-date this post
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>>156607013
Yes, Martin will die of from the fat choking his little piggie heart, and Miura will die from mobile games and heroin. At least Miura goes out with style.
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>>156593637
She did. Griffith's apologists should be gassed
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>monthly release
>not even 20 pages
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>156593693
This deserves to get copy pasta. Insightful point anon
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>entire party is surrounded by rape demons
>most of them are probably going to end up getting caught by the guards and executed for freeing him
>world's ending anyway
>gives them a quick death

Not only did he do nothing wrong, he did the RIGHT thing
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>>156596167
are you fucking retarded
literally, Griffith had that dream about casca attending to him all his life, and he wouldn't be able to thank her. when he stole the cart, I'm fairly certain he was trying to either run away and die from lack of medical attention, or out right kill himself, because he could tell that he wasn't the star general anymore, and that he would be a drag on Casca and Guts leading the hawks. it is down to the nature of the behelith that this happened. they say that the behelith will find it's way back to it's owner no matter what. Also, Griffith was wanting either to die, or to become his former self, and that is why the Eclipse happened, because the god hand felt it the right time to do this, when grifith was at his lowest. I'm convinced that femto isn't actually griffith.
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>>156608402
nonono, griffith took the wagon to go see his secret waifu.
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>>156603031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gc4QTqslN4
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>>156600895
>implying most women don't naturally submit and just let it happen when they realize they can not stop it
Lets not turn this rape into a murder and so forth.
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>>156600584
read the goddamn manga you useless pleb
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>>156595518
>rape Farnese
It's not rape if she enjoys it.
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>>156595852
Orgasms are literally just the result of overstimulation. So if the rape reached the point where somebody orgasms, it has nothing to do with enjoyment and everything to do with the parts getting overused.
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>/a/ loves Griffith now
What happened?
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>>156610698
He is basically taking it upon himself to replace the god created by twisted mortal fears and desires, and creating a new utopia instead of the chaotic and hopeless world they live in.

Gurifisu is not just best, he's the messiah. The only question left, is why he didn't raep clank instead of nigra.
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>>156610671
thats the most ignorant dumbest shit I have heard today. thanks for making me feel smart anon
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>>156611224
He's half right, if you sit on your vibrator long enough you'll orgasm, even if it's the 42nd orgasm and your vagoo feels like you put broken class and hot peppers up there.

Though we all know Casca loved it, every second, every thrust. You would have too...
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>>156611306
[citation needed]
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>>156589852
Griffith is the ahego master. He literally fucked her silly.
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>>156611859
If you don't want to take my word for it, i guess you'll just have to try it out.
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>>156611922
my sides
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>>156589852
>Also I'm pretty sure Casca liked it.
But Guts don't.
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>>156612120
I don't have a vagoo, that's impossible. I also doubt you have one, and indeed know anything at all about this subject
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>>156600953
>thats not a bad idea sempai
Because it works, well at least for me, now go and do it anon.
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>>156601169
>I would love to know if there is even a single person in this world who 100% unrionically believes that Griffith did nothing wrong.
Well technically speaking every that Griffith did since his birth was God Hand's fault. Both good and bad shit.
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>>156601460
>Both Guts and Griffith got pointy elf ears while everyone else has normal human ones
Oh yeah what the fuck is up with that?
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>>156608213
>he did the RIGHT thing
The Abridged proves this statement false.
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>>156612229
Your scepticism is admirable
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>>156611922
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>>156607023
yes, source indicates straight from reddit
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>>156612229
You still have an asshole, basically the same so you can work with that.
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>>156589852
>Griffith literally did nothing wrong. Also I'm pretty sure Casca liked it
So much her mind shunned itself from reality. Yeah.
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>>156612806
>ass is the same as vagoo
What martial arts school did you study in? Who was your master? Such mental technique, such gymnastic endeavour, how do you do it?
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>>156612846
it's because, let's take a less extreme example:
>you eat the nicest meal in the world
>you are perfectly happy having eaten that meal cake, but your experience of eating that meal is permanently stained by the first bite, and the pleasure you get from eating that meal drops each time you eat it beyond that.
>God hand dick makes the recipient lose all memory of it, so that every time you get it, it is as good as the first time, except that youdon't know that this is your nth time riding the same dick
>unfortunately they have not perfected the technique as yet, and casca was the most readily available test subject at the time, so you know
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>>156612846
No her mind broke because of experiencing so many orgasms and such completeness and wholeness of body and mind. She's like a dried heroin husk now, fucked to mindlessness, euphoria unto death
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>>156614396
The real reason why Casca hates Guts now is because he couldn't match Griffith's sexual prowess.
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>>156614734
False, it's because he stopped halfway through.
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Is this the most discussed berserk scene?
Why?
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>>156608402
He was trying to kill himself because he was depressed after not even being able to fuck Casca. He wasn't thinking about anyone but himself. He didn't want to be (treated as) a pathetic cripple anymore by people who respected him once.
That's why he tried to impale himself on that stump.
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>>156603535
I'm pretty sure SK's prophecy refers to Guts wanting revenge, but Casca wanting to live life with Guts away from all the violence and politics.
Miura is too feckless to abandon the vanilla route now.
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>>156603876
Yes.

Both where. But to Guts homosex was the ultimate symbol of hatred and spite, and to Griffith it was the ultimate gesture of sacrificing your dignity and pride to achieve money and power. Guts choked Casca and Griffith tore off the skin on his arms. They REALLY didn't like the idea of gay sex, even if they were romantically gay.
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>>156615515
Because there's penis in it. and /a/ loved dicks so much it makes /h/ and /d/ feel belittled.
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>>156606913
He felt good having her love and devotion. It's like if you're reading a harem and the devoted side bitch is actually sleeping with Friend A
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>>156615515
It's the end of act one and creates act 2's entire conflict
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>>156615515
Caska's rape,
Guts feeling sad,
The Boat chapter that lasted 7 years

this pretty much sums up the whole series.
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>>156615515
Because it's iconic
Reading to this point you literally get flipped upside down as everything for Guts and the crew just goes to shit, and then you see Griffith raping Casca, it was the tipping point that truly made Guts go BERSERK.
Now 4chan just likes to talk about it because "lmao rape" and to this day we still debate on why he would rape her.
It's almost like how /v/ fights over fallout new vegas and which faction is the best (Pro Tip its the Legion) for the Mojave
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>>156616082
Yeah. It's why Griffith goes through so many mental gymnastics to fuck Guts without it being gay. Like with Charlotte.
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>>156616232
and it only took Columbus a few months to cross the Atlantic
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>>156616245
/v/ is just todd memes, consolewars, scared of pol graphic whores
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Why does SK save Casca first during the eclipse? Why does he wait until exactly when the rape is done? Did he really want that demon baby.
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>>156616366
We dont know how far away the elf island is. Actually, I consider it equivalent to sailing to Valinor in Lord of The Rings. It's a realm of gods, its not on the maps. The Valar made the world round so mortal sailors would never reach it, and just come back to where they started. Only the immortal races could sail the flat sea. Its a pretty cool thought i think
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>>156612563
they're pirkafs
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>>156616826
Isidro's balls never dropped so it can't have been that long.
Also I never knew that about lotr. Then the elves must've been pricks to take Bilbo along even when he's totally gonna die during the voyage.
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>>156616245
They think that the ntr will actually bother people in 2017, where we have jump manga about ugly old men trying to breed the heroine with attractive Chadlings.
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>>156617682
what manga is this?
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>>156612493
Idea of evil*

The eclipse calls the godhand , not the other way around.
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>>156618183
U19 or something like that
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>>156593865
why though
it's literally the best thing that could happen to humanity
sure there are demons in the dark but they will fuck off with griffith to conquer a new planet
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>>156591228
Griffith a shit
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>>156601188
Yeah, he gets that, but Guts doesn't want to accept that the man he once called his friend sacrificed him for absolute power

Maybe Black Swordsman Guts is the nicest Guts. He's saying friendship>power
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>>156589852
1997 anime Griffith had literally the best design, manga him looks like an old jaded lesbian half the time.
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>>156619092
Something something the nature of mankind is to struggle, and through that struggle they can achieve, they can find happiness something something something Rickert's crossbow machine gun is an innovation that could only exist through struggle something something symbolism something

Read Magi's final arc if you want a sneak peek into the debates that'll occur at the end of Berserk.
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>>156619784
nah i'm good on shota propaganda
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>>156619722
He's supposed to look otherworldly after his rebirth. Neither man nor woman.
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>>156619832
I don't see how looking like an old jaded lesbian is "otherworldy" but okay.
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Is this scene Casca remembering her love for Griffith, or being happy to see her kid all grown up? She blushing right?
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>>156620135
She's just suffering from lack of blood.
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>>156620204
That'd make her pale.
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>>156620280
I don't think she can get pale no matter how much blood she lost.
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>>156620135
Probably pain from brand, suppressed emotions and emotional guilt that's behind 7 proxies
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>>156621146
But she doesn't remember Guts or anyone else in the slightest
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>>156621221
well you have never jumped from 100meters but pretty sure you realize you'd die if you did, it's instinctual and suppressed deep inside her, she's just broken doll but the pieces are still there
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>>156621339
The whole thing is that it's impossible to recover those pieces holy shit as I was typing this I jus realized that Farnese and Schrieke will get to feel the emotions she was having when Femto's cock was inside her so we'll finally be able to put the OP's claims to rest, whether they be confirmed or rebuked, time will tell..
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>>156621547
>Griffith will cuck Guts of Farnese and Schierke also

WHO CAN STOP THIS MADMAN
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Guts is getting married!
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>>156621647
The elf queen is protecting them, besides it's just a dream, not the real thing.
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>>156589852
whoaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

So original!!!!!
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>>156617374
elves are always pricks.
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>>156602977
>guts gets raped by femto and branded on the asshole
>every time he's near apostle he's having a period from his ass
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>>156589852
every FUCKING day this FUCKING thread
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>>156621764
But they feel Casca's feels
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>>156589852
If I was a hopeless cripple and couldn't chase my dreams while my friends are out there being happy of course I'd wish I could kill myself and bring all those assholes down with me. Griffith was just acting out of instinct when he massacre'd his entire army. All that controversial stuff that happened afterwards was Femto's fault.
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>>156621647
>>156621547
when your femboy ex bf cucks your gf, your side bitch and your loli.
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>>156623651
What Femto did wasn't evil per se, but it was definitely mean-spirited. Normalfags fuck each other's girlfriends all the time just to prove they could.
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Guts will not defeat Griffith with might at the end of the story, quote me on that

Griffith is already established as way beyond anyone's level
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>>156627579
>rape
>"wasn't evil"
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>>156627659
pls no
>arguing him into not being evil
>fucking him into not being evil
>friendship him into not being evil
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No, really. Why did he rape Casca? what was the point of it? why did he want to make Guts and Casca suffer instead of just killing them on the spot? Unless he did it just to let Casca get away to use her corrupted son later on but Griffith couldn't have planned all that in the few minutes that go from him becoming Femto to raping Casca right?
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>>156628026
See >>156594113

It's his sole mistake. And a huge once.
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>>156627710
>rape
>being evil
Rape is just mean. Otherwise people before modern time would all be evil since rape and sex were one in the same.
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In chapter 64, during the Wyald fight, it kind of looks like Griffith gets the idea to rape Casca from watching Wyald. Is it supposed to come across that way?
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>>156628264
>both guts' and griffith's only sexual relationship that didn't end up dooming their souls were with men

nice parallel
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>>156628026
Well considering he has some control over causality now, that might actually have been planned.
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>>156628608
No. Casca's entire purpose in Golden Age is always to be almost raped by villains. It's foreshadowing with a touch of irony because she ends up being raped by her prince.
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Fuck Puck
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>>156628026
I always figured it was domination. He's always been on top and controlled others, and Guts and Casca were two people he lost control of. But you know, Femto wasn't the only demon that wanted to rape her. They all did. So either, he did it because he was as mindlessly sex hungry as all other demons, or he did it because he still has lingering attachment to his past. Or I guess it could have been planned, yeah.

>>156629308
He's also the one who encouraged her to kill her potential rapists, no? If she killed Griffith it would be perfect poetry.
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>>156629275
You guys are far to caught up in keikakus. The Godhand isn't omnipotent. They're actors directed by the idea of evil. Sometimes they improv. They follow their desires. Griffith only created Falconia because it's something HE wanted. A kingdom. Slan tries to fuck Guts in Qliphoth because she's bored.
Reminder that they're not gods, but officially act as the hand of god. They can be surprised and they can be wrong.
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Was Griffith trying to strangle Guts here?
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>>156629527
This. Femto is genuinely surprised that Guts still is even alive.
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>>156629976
Nah, too early. He didn't even know that Casca was his bitch yet.
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>>156629976
yes, why else will he go for the throat along with that judeau reaction
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>>156630344
>>156629976
How about you read the next goddamn page instead of falseflagging?
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>>156630470
>>156629976
He was trying to strangle him. I don't think that Guts realises though thus why the next page is him just hugging him closer. Or maybe he does realise and is understands that it's kind of his fault
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>>156630697
So complex!
>G:are you real?
>J:wow guts is crying
>GT:fuck why I'm sorry
>G:it k man
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>>156630470
But that's just Guts pulling him in for a hug, after that point Griffith probably realised it was pointless to try, at least if he was even going for the strangle if the first place
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>>156630470
He was indeed going for the throat as he saw him being the reason he got tortured for a year, as >>156630344 said Judeau notices it too,also the previous panel is focused on Griffith's pupil being small, and as you well know small eyes = big rage, yet it's the only human contact that he received after all that time, not only, it is his best friend saving him and hugging him in despair, therefore he quickly realizes that it's not Guts fault and grabs his hand.
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>>156630857
Probably the same people that think Asuka's caress in EoE translates to "fuck Shinji you make me so wet fill me with your seed"
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>>156630942
Judeau is shocked because Guts is beginning to cry. Read the chapter Jesus Christ.
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>>156631038
>you see your bff for the first time in a year being mangled into a dickless fuck and you start crying? my god I didn't know you could've been such a pussy Guts!
Totally what Judeau thought.
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The rapist traitor that sacrificed his men to demons who also is responsible for allowing monster to now roam the world free did nothing
KYS
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>>156631376
But the monsters roaming around was a side-effect of stopping Ganishka, it's either that or he lets some super-god roam around eating and destroying everything anyway.
And he never betrayed his men, they were always willing to give their lives for his ambitions, would it be better if they had all died in battle instead? Same outcome, really
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>"The key word is Void"
What did he mean by this?
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>>156594036
cause you gotta go deeper to hit that shit
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>>156631650
Dying in battle is way different then your leader setting you up Griffith set up a trap for his own men
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>>156594036
The fairy prince(female) is guiding them along the STABLE parts of Casca's mind. Any memory that leads to Griffith leads to the eclipse, and that way leads to disaster.
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>Why did she say look at instead of stop?
The former has a tiny chance of happening, the latter has no chance of happening. Are people really this stupid, or is it just shitposting?
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>>156632954
look away*
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>>156629321
I'm pretty sure my dick would destroy him.
Can't the Elf Queen make him shota size so then I can plow him?
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