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>Tenshinhan mini-arc
>still no Launch in sight
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Will Chiaotzu's waifu finally make an appearance?
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SECOND FOR FUCKING WHY?
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decent ep
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So, why isn't anyone using the room of spirit and time? *COUGH* GOHAN *COUGH*
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Leave Zeno to me, /a/.
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I love all the salt this arc has been mining from powerlevelfags.
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>>156548983
>saiyan
>leader of a gang
>tomboy
Caulifla is my new waifu
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>>156548901
Chiaotzu got over his waifuism after he started dating Tien. Now they're happily married so Chiaotzu doesn't need a virtual girlfriend anymore
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>thread about a literal who
>>156548844
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>>156549068

it's time to give up, vegecuck

your thread is small just like you
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Is gohan pretty much a "Childhood actor"? Was in his prime during his youth, now that hes an adult, hes a nobody and struggles to return to his former glory days
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>>156548836
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>>156549119
>mr. job interviewer calling anyone cuck
lol
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Why does Bulma think she's beautiful?

She's an old hag and everyone knows it.
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>People ACTUALLY BELIEVE that Roshi will lose a fight or job in any way
How fucking dumb are you people?
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>>156549050
>>156549160
cauli is built to dom cabba
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Which fighters you think Gowasu will bring to ToP?

evolved bavari team?
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B O O G I E
A
C
K
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If Satan can get Buu to train for an entire day he will surely become the strongest being in U7.
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>>156549050
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Yurin is the new hotness for tenshinhan
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>>156549141
He just doesn't want the universe to be destroyed
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Which DBS ED is best?
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What will be Piccolo's new attack? My money is on ripping his own junk off repeatedly and giving everyone else the doze
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>>156549204
Probably anime only fags who don't know that Roshi is literally on a 100% winstreak in the manga.
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>>156549218
Pretty sure at least one of them is going to be a barbarian.
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>Toriyama said a female saiyan becoming Super would become a new kind of SS never seen before
>Caulifla goes SS and her hair is just green instead yellow
>Toei also make her go LSS in the anime
Broli officially is a transsexual saiyan now
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This dude is a saiyan and if he was from U7 Vegeta would have already killed him for being unable to fight just like he did with Nappa
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>>156549264
Yoka Yoka Dance
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>>156549050

>Naming female Brolly, Caulifla
>Broccoli's alternative is a cauliflower

So if we get all alternative vegetables for uni7 ones, we get the names of uni6 and vice versa.

Oh and Tenshin filler, great.....
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>>156549141
His peak was when he was around 17, I don't consider that a child.
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>>156549264
Boogie Back or Yoka Yoka Dance
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>>156549032
>Gohan chops his arm off
>asks if Piccolo is OK
>Piccolo pretends like the fight is over
>attacks Gohan from behind using amputated arm
>"Haha Gohan I win!"
LOL
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>>156549226
BOOGIE BACK
BOOGIE BACK
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>>156549240
>thicc saiyan waist
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>yfw the mystic tien leaks were true
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>>156549050
Caulifla x cabba doujins when?
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Why the fuck do you idiots give a shit about a side character from the Dragonball series?
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>>156549264
Yoka Yoka Dance.

Boogie Back ironically, or if you're about ready to fap to some db doujin.
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i hope they aren't the same i want 2 female saiyans in this arc barring bra
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>>156549032

On one hand, I like that they are trying to actually do things with the old cast. On the other, it's really fucking jarring to know that the old cast is getting huge power ups despite not doing fuck all for them. Conflicting feelings, for sure.

>>156548983

I was wondering the same thing. I honestly thought that was what Piccolo was going to suggest doing in his "I think you can reach a higher level" speech.

>>156549267

He didn't die to King Piccolo in the manga?
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>>156549245
Yurin does make a real mean and hot piss in a cup desu
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>>156549264
Usubeni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyWPhixwa9Q
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>>156549245
Ain´t she too young for Tenshinhan?
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>>156549331
If he was paying attention he would have noticed it. But Gohan has an overconfidence problem when he thinks the fight is over.
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>>156549240
>greaser saiyans
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>>156549376
Fuck yourself Toyotaro, there is more to DB than GOKU AND VEGETA
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>>156549420
Like what?
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>>156549389
He only died to failing to use the Mafuba.
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>>156549160
>>156549240
>"Wanna see what destruction looks like in Saiyan form, Cabba-chan? ITS YA GIRL CAULIFA!"
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>>156549389
He only died in the manga from fucking up the mufuba.
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>>156549407
>implying
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>>156549337
>>156549226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApH3CPWIpdc
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>>156549264
Yoka Yoka Dance. Chaohan Music is pretty good too.
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>>156549331
>gohan still hasn't learned to dodge
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>>156549141
More like a traumatized child soldier forced to go to war again. He just want to forget all about Vietnam and pretend it never happened but the fanboys can't let go their childhood and the industry hasn't been able to create international hits after the 90s so here we go again, again.
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>>156548983
Toriyama forgot it exists.
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>>156549459
>>156549469

And that's not losing the fight? Failing to defeat the enemy and dying due to your own attack instead?

>Pffffft, you only won cause I died, loser.
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>>156549306
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>>156549376
Do you someone else talking about lunch here anon?
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>>156549420
>t. Toei shill
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>>156549141
What was his crackhead phase?
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>>156549488
fuck this shit, it never works in english, half the charm is the moon speak.

she even fucks up the boogie back
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>>156549572
Saiyaman.
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>>156549572
Resurrection of F
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>>156549376
Lunch is the only significant character to never make a comeback in some form.

Hell, even Number 8 had a cameo.
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Are there any Sandy and Monk Tripitaka stand-in characters in Dragonball?
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>>156549488
Anybody here not really give a shit about this arc and want a timeskip to teen bulla/pan future?
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>>156549488
Huh, not that bad.
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Why'd they give Caulifla such a huge redesign?
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>>156549240
>Broly acts more timid and meek like a U6 saiyan
>Caulifa acts more primal and angry like a U7 saiyan

What did they mean by this?
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>>156549412
What was Gohan supposed to do? Kill Piccolo when he was weakened?
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>>156549626
Yamcha is Sandy, Bulma is Tripitaka. Shenron is their horse.
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>>156549531
so you're telling that broccoli isn't just little trees?
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>>156549626
Bulma is Tripitaka
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>>156549603
Delet this.
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>>156549627
I just want them to get past all this filler and start the damn tournament already. It'll probably suck since it's just a single battle royale, but I want them to get it over with
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>>156549197
Because her tiddies were bangin and she was constantly getting hit on by the steongest fighters.
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>>156549636
Broly was being subdued by Paragus.
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>>156549636
Why do U7 Saiyans look so ALPHA compared to U6 Saiyans?
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>>156549666
Feel/hear the energy behind him and either deflect or dodge it.
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>>156549706
Tournament won't start until June
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>>156549489
I YYD
II SUPA SHIE SHIE CHAOHAN HAOCHI SUPA SHIE SHIE CHAOHAN MUJIKKU
III BOOGIE BACK
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>>156549337
I'd boogie Bulma's back id you know what I mean.
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>>156549627
I like this arc, but I've been wanting that since the series started.
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>>156549288
He was a girl all along
>post your face when the entire cast of dbz got manhandled by multiple girls miltiple times
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>>156549112
>I was watching a show that ended 30 minutes earlier that had me on the edge of my seat and hyped as fuck
What show?
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>>156549732
U7 Saiyans were cavemen who only knew three things: fight, fuck and eat.
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Sorry if this was already mentioned but I thought Gohan can only go SSJ2 as an act of rage?

From what I remember he only went SSJ2 against Cell and Kibito at the peak of anger but now he can just go at will?
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>>156549763
I'd take Bulma out to dinner and a movie and then drop her off at her place before 11.
If you know what I mean.
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>>156549680
Your life up until now was a total lie.
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>>156549531
so U6 still have Brussels, Kale and Kohlrabi left to show
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>>156549886
There was no anger with Kibito. He's been able to by will since Cell.
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>>156549676
>Shenron is their horse
Bulma's white bike from the early days was the horse
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>>156549869
U7 Saiyans were Conan?
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>>156549627
>teen bulla/pan future?
Literally no one but you cares, you fucking GT spic. Fuck off.
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>>156549778
I wouldnt mind if they wrote off goku and vegeta leaving for the nonparticipating universes after this arc cause some threat and the god structure gets messed up at the end of this arc and goku/vegeta have to solve it on their own. Maybe throw in a timeskip where pan/bulla get a side arc with dragonball style adventures or something. The universe destroying energy blasts are pretty boring.
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>>156549917
>There was no anger with Kibito.
What are you talking about? Yes there was. Videl was just beat to a pulp and Gohan was pissed.
>He's been able to by will since Cell.
I wouldn't say it was by will. He was pushed to the point of SSJ2 by anger.
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So is Califla the FemBroly? does Cabba tame her with his dick and cause her to change appearance and temperament? i really sorta hope they're different characters, Califla's design is 100x worse than the FemBroly design.
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>>156549925
Shenron is their equivalent to Yulong, just as Yamcha is Sandy and Bulma is Tripitaka.
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>>156549956
>implying pan isn't cute as fuck in GT
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>>156549218
Zamasu and Black. I mean, those are literally his best fighters, and his Universe is risking extinction. He has to bring them back.
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>>156549965
She was also fixed by the time he fought Kibito and he had no reason to be angry at Kibito.
Nigga, it was by will. Goku's transformation to SSJ was by anger but he was able to transform to it by will since his initial transformation. Stop being dumb.
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>>156549931
Who's the Conan of the saiyan race?

King Vegeta?
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>>156549982
>Califla's design
you mean the three second close up of her face? fucking retard
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>>156549141
>struggles to return to his former glory days
Problem is, he doesn't give a shit about his glory days. He has the potential to put damn near every other fighter in the universe to shame, but he'd rather be a skinny nerd.
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So... why did you all lie about Piccolo holding back?

Gohan is clearly stronger than him.
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>>156549956
>anons call powerlevelfags spics
>some people want OG dragonball style episodes back
>gets called a spic anyways
>n-no we want more adventures with our OP universe destroying fighters this isnt powerlevel faggotry

kys
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>>156549999
Pan is one of the main reasons GT is a piece of shit. She's insufferable, annoying, whiny, and a fucking slut.

>>156550002
They are fucking dead forever you fedora-tipping autist.
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>>156549890
I'd gently shake Bulma's hand, complement her lovely hair, speak complements of his husband and children and wish her a good day if you catch my drift, boys. ;)
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>>156550002
Kais probably can't participate.
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>>156550006
>She was also fixed by the time he fought Kibito and he had no reason to be angry at Kibito.
Did you not see the fight? He wasn't angry at Kibito but clearly he still had rage within him from witnessing his girl getting beat up.

Care explaining why he never went SSJ2 again after Kibito then?
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>>156550060
>implying wanting a fucking Pan/Bulla spinoff would be anything like OG Dragon Ball
Someone never read the manga.
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>>156550084
Black and Zamasu weren't Kaioshin.
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>>156549264
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7E5nwa5-cY
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>>156550089
>Care explaining why he never went SSJ2 again after Kibito then?
He was SS2 against Fat Buu you goddamn retard
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>>156550062
her character is shit in GT, but they can fix that now that Super replaced it
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Roshi was matching Goku in the preview.
It's happening boys. Roshi is gonna force Goku into SSB. I can't wait
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>>156548836
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>>156549627
At least get to the damn battle royal, so we can see all the new fighters
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>>156550027
do your research next time dickface, they already showed her off
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>>156550131
haahha
someone get the mspaint guy ready
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>>156550089
Going by his hair he fought Dabura as a SSJ2 and I think later did it to try to destroy Buu in his capsule. After that it didn't matter since his potential got unlocked.
>b-but muh rage
So why didn't Goku need to be angry to SSJ2 against Majin Vegeta?
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>>156550139
>muh research
so you're complaining that a character has two distinct looks? what a fucking autist
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>>156550129
>>156550151
>I've never read the manga.
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>>156550131
Well of course he will, SSB in the anime is an absolute jobber form.
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>>156550122
I despise idolshit but Yokan Yokan Dance is my favorite Super ED
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>>156548983
Vegeta blew it up
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>>156550196
I have. There's no difference in this case. Gohan can go SSJ2 by will.
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>>156550196
>being this fucking retarded
WEW
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>>156550139
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>>156550246
Gohan didn't so SSJ2 during the fight with Fat Buu or Dabura in the manga you god damn retard.
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>>156550175
>we've only seen her for 2 seconds, you don't know her design
>the source you posted disproving me that we have seen her design doesn't count because uhhhhh
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>>156550122
who the fuck thought this was fitting for Dragon Ball?
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>>156550196
>muh manga

No one gives a shit about the dragonball manga mouthbreather fuck off
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>>156550271
Irrelevant and moving goal posts. Gohan can go SSJ2 by will.
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>>156550275
>being this retarded
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>>156550131
Its all cause of Yurin's magic anon
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Who wins?
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>>156550271
>Gohan didn't so SSJ2 during the fight with Fat Buu or Dabura in the manga you god damn retard.
Why would you go on the Internet and tell lies like that?
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>>156550302
ok bud
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>>156550329
Supes, now fuck off.
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any rule 34 yet?
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>>156550298
>gets proven wrong
>s-s-stop changing subjects!!
It's clear I won that argument then so let's continue with the initial argument. Gohan has only went SSJ2 via anger as shown in the manga. It makes no sense why he can do it now.

>>156550344
Read the manga.
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>>156550283
Whoever thought Boogie Back was?
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>>156550139
That drawing is fucking awful
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>>156550348
>le damage control reddit tier meme xD
when you're finished being retarded i'll be waiting to accept your apology
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>>156549869
Not canon you stupid Zbaby
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>>156550380
>Read the manga.
You mean the manga where Goku states Dabura is more powerful than SPC?
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>>156549264
all bubblegum pop garbage
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>>156550380
You didn't win shit moving goalposts. Gohan does infact go SSJ2 when confronting Buu. He also can transform into SSJ2 by will just like Goku can and how Goku also did with SSJ.
inb4 fallacy filled diapers
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>>156550380
>Read the manga.
I have, and you're a dipshit. Getting asshurt and bleating "r-read the m-manga" over and over like an autist doesn't make you right. And just in case you're confused, you're not. You're actually incorrect. I'm sure that feels awful, but being as stupid as you are, it'll happen a lot over the course of your life, so you should get used to it.
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>>156549886
This episode is just filler you idiot
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>>156550329
depends on the superman version
current goku would beat most versions of superman though.
the strongest version of supes can solo the verse though
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/ourguy/
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>>156550329
>>156550359
It depends on which superman you are using because he doesnt have a consistent canon. I can draw a story about a cuck superman who doesnt do anything and it would still be superman (Just not one with much validation)
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So did piccolo basically confirm goku fucked gohan up trying to force him into ss2 in the hyperbolic time chamber or was he just saying that he inherited gokus arrogance genetically?
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>>156550388
fuck you its perfect for dragon ball
holy shit what an awful fucking performance, is this pretty much what idol culture is? seriously painful to watch
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>Piccolo is weaker than Frost
>SSJ1 Goku is stronger than Frost
>SSJ1 Goku fights evenly with SSJ1 Gohan
>SSJ2 Gohan fights evenly with Piccolo
???
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>>156549908

I think it's probable that the king of the u6 saiyans will likely compete.

So King Kale?
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>>156550507
Volume 3 when?
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>it's another "Gohan was SS2 against Dabra and Boo" episode

Sorry guys auras never lies, he only was SS2 against Kibito and Cell and you can't change this fact
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I want to eat Califla's meat
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>>156550566
saiyan genetics
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>>156550596
You forgot
>Piccolo spends months training while Gohan wasn't
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>SS2 aura vs SS aura
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>>156550586
Don't get me wrong, I like both EDs. Probably the best ones the show has had. Just pointing out that it was probably the same music director
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>>156550122
if i were at this concert, i'd be fucking rioting
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>>156550609
>he's still going
Just admit you lost, you retard.
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>>156550596
The characters powers fluctuate based on the whims of the writers in the DBS anime.
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>>156550641
That short amount of time should not get you that strong.
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>>156550596
>>156550641
>people pretending you can take Toei's power scaling seriously
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>>156550666
>autists
>admitting defeat
They'd rather get raped.
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>>156550596
>Piccolo is weaker than Frost
That was just Goku being an asshole, Piccolo dominated Frost in their fight before he got poisoned.
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Why did they air 6 episodes of DBZ Kai today?
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>>156550692
It's been more than a year since the U6 tournament anon.
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>>156550666
I'm not even that guy, Satan, I'm just agree because he never EVER was SS2 against Dabra or Boo but keep trying mate
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>>156550329
Popeye on spinach.
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>>156550692
Piccolo got 10 times stronger just fucking around in the woods with Gohan for a year
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>>156550713
Dude, Piccolo was running away the entire fight.
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>>156550729
>a year
and that changes everything?
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>>156550734
Gohan's hair never lies. He was SSJ2.
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>>156550756
Remember that time Goku and Gohan spent a year training and went from weaker than 17 and 18 to stronger than Cell.
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>>156550564
Rebirth is the consistent canon anon kun
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>>156550734
>I'm just agree
Nobody cares what you think Paco. Also you're El Wrongo.
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>>156550729
Almost 2. It was a year between the tournament and the Hit min-arc, and then another 9 months or so since then at least.
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>>156550790
So why didn't Piccolo go into the time chamber in the cell saga?
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>>156550729

Yes, especially for Piccolo who doesn't ever stop training and has access to the time chamber.
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>>156550817
He did. Didn't do that much for him overall.
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>>156550756
Yes you silly ningen. Piccolo trained for an entire year, while Gohan didn't do shit. That's a massive power spike for Piccolo. Remember when the earthlings went from weaker than teenage Goku to all being stronger than Raditz in a year's worth of training? Remember when Piccolo did the same thing?
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>>156550271
How do you even tell the difference?
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>>156550756
Vegeta went up to Super Saiyan Blue level in just 6 months. Whis makes it clear that how you train can be just as important as how much.
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>>156550865
Mainly Gohan's bangs. SSJ1 has the big one and a smaller one. SSJ2 only has the big one.
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>>156549141
I understand Gohan's schtick to be "potantial doesn't matter, training does"
By the end of the Buu saga (in the manga) he was the strongest single character after evil Buu but he never wanted to fight, just be all studious and shit.
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>>156550834
He went from being even with 17 to being able to take on a Cell Jr, so it did do good for him. Cell just outclassed everyone by that much
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>>156550761
>hair argument
See >>156550609 again
His SS only had one bang when the tournament started. Half-saiyans hair changes, auras doesn't.
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>>156550806
>le build Wall XD based /r/thedonald! :^)
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Lets be honest here guys, I was hype when Gohan turned to Ultimate Gohan
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>>156550755
Goku is a bumpkin and got tricked by the poison after watching him use the attack already.
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>>156550889
And the ki. No lightning was around Gohan. During the same chapters, Goku and Vegeta were consistently drawn with the lightning when they went SSJ2.
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>>156550849
>>156550790


Or the zenkai boost on namek that brought goku from below 100k to 3 million
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>>156550903
>take on
He was able to hold out pretty well but both Vegeta and Trunks were the only two that could really fight against them somewhat evenly.
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>Piccolo>Ultimate Gohan

Stop this, did you blind faggots even watch the episode?

Plus i thought his ultimate state wasn't a transformation, i guess it's just another retcon
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>>156550596
Also remember SSJ Goku is God tier
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Ten years ago, this cover would have looked like absurd fan fiction. Today, it's an official product.
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>>156551009
IT IS NOW
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>>156550940
>got tricked by the poison after watching him use the attack already.
You talking about Piccolo?
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>>156549886
Gohan ascended even needing to go super saiyan in the Buu saga in the manga. Not sure what they're doing with that, never watched the anime, too long my man
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>>156551032
These covers look lame
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>>156551032
SOOONNNNN GOKKUUUUUUAAAAHHHHH
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>>156550931
Get asshurt that I called you out as a spic all you want. It doesn't change the fact that I'm right, you're wrong, and I know better than you, Pablo.
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>>156551032
i don't see you point you know Black arc was just Toyotaro doing his thing

the guy made an entire fanfiction manga so of course his arc should look like one
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>>156550940
Are you fucking retarded? Goku fought Frost first you stupid fucking dipshit.
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>>156549197
Because Super insists on drawing her like she's 20 instead of being middle-aged
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>>156551138
>SSA Trunks
>cliche purple monster Zamasu

>Toyotaro
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Cauliflower isn't the LSSJ since nobody before Cabba had ever gone SSJ before
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>>156551244
>implying
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The bang is back motherfuckers, I don't care if he jobbed again. Besides, he finally learned to stop being arrogant and fight for real.
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>>156551244
Maybe she kept her powers hidden.
She seems pretty shady
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Has it addressed why they aren't taking advantage of permanent potara fusion? Even if they let roshi and chaoitzu fuse and tien fuse with yamcha, just to prop up the bottom tier fighters?
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So what's up the spiky hair female saiyan?
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>>156551244
She was supposed to be number 1, extra dimensional influnce caused cabba to turn first, but she might have turned ssj already.
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>>156549778
>Bulla not wearing her Dad's armor
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>>156551409
Wouldn't Potara earrings count as a weapon?
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There is really no functional difference between SS and SS2. Toriyama didn't even create SS2 as "SS2" originally, it was just the full power of a Super Saiyan without the shitty drawbacks that Vegeta and Trunks found out about the hard way. It makes perfect sense considering that, if SS2 really was a separate form in-universe (at least up to the asspull that was SS3), then instead of saying "Gohan's power has diminished" at the tournament and what have you, Goku or Vegeta would have commented in confusion as to why he wasn't utilizing SS2.

So no, Gohan never went "SS2" against Dabura and Buu simply because the form didn't technically exist in-universe. He utilized his full power as a mastered Super Saiyan against Kibito due to his anger over Videl being beaten, but that was it.
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>>156551409

No items probably
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>>156550196
It's 2016 and there are still people that insist that Gohan was SSJ and Dabura was only Perfect Cell tier.

We always have someone at the start of a saga that is just as strong as the last enemy of the previous saga that his only purpose is to job to show how now all the enemies are stronger.

Piccolo w/ weights (=Piccolo 23rd TB) jobbed to Raditz.
Saibaiman (=Raditz) jobbed to the human fighters
Cui (=Vegeta Saiyan Saga) and jobbed to show how stronger Vegeta became and how stronger Zarbon and Dodoria were

The Android saga was this in a nutshell since Toriyama kept changing who was the big bad of the saga
Mecha Freezer (=100% Freezer) was easily killed by Trunks to show how the next enemies were stronger than someone that killed Freezer like it was nothing.
Everyone assumed 19 and 20 were these 2 androids that were stronger than Trunks and Vegeta had to bluff Dr. Gero because he was too weakened after his fight with 19.
Dr. Gero being directly defeated by 17
Kamiccolo(=17) was easily defeated by Cell
16 (=Imperfect Cell) being defeated by Semi Perfect Cell
Vegeta (>Semi Perfect Cell) being defeated by Perfect Cell while he held back.
Goku (=Perfect Cell vs Trunks and Vegeta) being defeated by Perfect Cell

Why it is so hard for people to accept Dabura was stronger than Cell even after Goku stated it twice?
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>>156551244
Cabba will teach her how to transform and die in the resulting snu snu. Even without Super Saiyan, Broly was as strong as King Vegeta as a newborn.
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>>156551430
the new tomboy of the series
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>>156551383
>gohan at his full fighting power grows an ahoge
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>>156549504
Lost
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>>156551430
She's the younger sister of Cabba's former master, has huge potential and seems to be a gang leader
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>>156551454
>>156551469

Aren't they permanent even once you take off the earrings? That's my vague memory, that could be incredibly wrong
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GOHAN STILL HAS ONE MORE TRAINING EPISODE

WE DID IT BOYS
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>>156551409
Potara isn't permament, where the hell have you been?
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>>156551474
>Why it is so hard for people to accept Dabura was stronger than Cell even after Goku stated it twice?
Because some people are autists who like to scream about auras and lightning as if the "SS2 aura" (whatever the fuck that even means) hasn't been omitted during a fight where a character was clearly SS2.
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>>156551551
Potara fusion only lasts an hour unless one of the fusees is a Supreme Kai
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>>156551409
Potara fusions are only permanent for Kais.
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>>156551553
I'm willing to give Gohan a chance here. I won't take any jabs at him if he does something cool in that episode. He better do us proud or we'll do his hand
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>>156551551
They closed up that magic plothole of why they unfused during buu. "Only fused kais last forever otherwise it's 'an hour' fusion"
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Why is Geekdom popular? I don't understand youtube culture. He doesn't do anything original, nor does he have any authority or knowledge on DB, he just rambles about episodes and steals info from Kanzenshuu.
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>>156551551
They last an hour supposedly, good reason too
Vegeto's power in SSB had surpassed Beerus
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>>156551649

Gohan did fine in this episode. The elephant in the room, his overconfidence and letting his guard down was finally addressed and he's clearly stronger than Piccolo.
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>>156551707
>Vegeto's power in SSB had surpassed Beerus
>Final Kamehameha did jack shit to Zamasu
Top kek
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>>156551707
>Vegeto's power in SSB had surpassed Beerus
as stated by fucking Shin, and it wasn't a confirmation.
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>>156551790
I mean Shin is pretty bad reference, but he shares a lifelink with the dude. He should know his abilities and range of power
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>>156551777
Nice trips, Manga Vegetto is stronger than Beerus.
Anime Vegetto we don't know.
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>>156551843
We have literally zero idea about the nature of their lifelink. It's silly to assume that just because Shin is linked to Beerus that he knows the depths of 100% of his power. If that were the case they'd be constantly aware of each other and what they were doing, and that's obviously not true.
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>>156551755
Hopefully that'll stick. For most of Super, Gohan's been impervious to character development.
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I feel like the only way to keep Gohan going like this would be to have him quit his job and become a fighter again, and I'm not sure I'd want them to do that to him again. But can they keep the running gag going of Gohan falling behind, some new threat appearing and actual strongest being in the universe Gohan having to get his shit together again? I mean, it's worked kinda well before.
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>>156551790
You're an idiot dicksucker. The line was put there to let you know how powerful Vegetto was.
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>>156551843
Gowasu also shares a link with his God of Destruction but he said that SSJ2 Goku was as strong as a God of Destruction when that is clearly not the case
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>>156551777
to be fair he's half immortal, but trunk's sword was bullshit
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>>156552026
That was in the anime, not the manga.
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>>156552026
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>>156552004
It was put there to show that Vegito's power was extremely high, not to indicate that he was specifically above anyone. It's extremely obvious. Maybe try not getting so triggered, you whiny little baby.
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>>156552095
>b-b-but it didn't mean what it said
lel
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>>156551474
Are you basing this on the anime(dub) cause i'm sure that was never said in the manga
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>>156552095
>not to indicate that he was specifically above anyone.
Yeah, that's why the line specifically mentioned he was above someone right?
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>>156552079
Toei love throwing out these lines don't they?
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>>156552115
There was never even a confirmation, unless you're a fucking retard who reads mangastream. Shin speculated that it was POSSIBLE that Vegito's power was above Beerus's. That's not a confirmation, that's a line to impart to the read that Vegito is really fucking powerful.

Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lack basic reading comprehension skills? It's like I'm trying to drill common sense into a brick wall. An autistic brick wall.
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>>156552079
Not every GoD is as powerful as Beerus and Champa
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>>156552146
>more mangastream readers
I'm not going to bother responding to any of you retards from now on, you clearly don't give a shit about accurate translations so your opinions don't actually matter.
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>>156550131
Remember all those flowers goku and krillin got?
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>>156552222
>>156552180


>"I have no argument, waaah i hate you all for not believing my fan fiction is correct! I hate you anon!!!"
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Beerus being stronger than SSB Vegito is fucking stupid

Him being stronger than Goku and Vegeta combined is stupid enough as it is
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>>156551995
Gohan's next problem is that he doesn't really try to balance fighting or work. He's all in on one or the other.
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Does anyone know why Mystic Gohan was called "Mystic"?

I'm assuming this only happened in the west.
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>>156552282
>you have no argument because you refuse to believe things stated in a translation that has been massively inaccurate multiple times
Here, have a last (You).
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>>156552291
Not really. The BoG power scale was retconned, we no longer have a clue what the depths of Beerus's full power are.
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>>156552309
It's in both translations anon. Both have Vegetto being mentioned to being stronger than Beerus. But please, continue to cry, it's amusing.
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>>156552303
Mystic was just a fan term that stuck. Probably because it was quicker to type than "Elder Kai Power Up."
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>>156552303
Came from the fandom, then Bandai actually named it that on some Gohan toys in the west.
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>>156552180
See >>156552115
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>>156552375
>"Could Vegito's power already be above Beerus'?!"
From a character who has proved time and again that has fuck all clue what he's talking about. What a confirmation.

>hehe keep le crying xD
I'm merely trying to correct people who are so stupid they believe that they are already correct.
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>>156552452
>b-but it doesn't count because [insert retardation here]
lol
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>>156552452
So basically, it's incorrect because you say so. Got it.
The line was put there to show you Vegetto's raw power is greater than Beerus'. Not to mention his power was still growing at the time of the comparison.
I've never seen a fanbase as stubborn as Dragon Ball's. You guys will refuse to accept what the author tells you is fact. It's amazing.
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>>156549295
U6 saiyans look more human like.
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>>156552535
You have to be literally fucking deluded if you think that line is a confirmation. Enjoy being wrong, Pedro.
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>>156549264
The first 2 and Yoka Yoka Dance.
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>>156550507

At first I thought a ball of hair was sticking out of his head, but it was another person's hair.
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>>156552550
>The line was put there to show you Vegetto's raw power is greater than Beerus'.
Sure it was, anon. Continue being proud of lacking basic reading comprehension skills regarding fiction, I guess.
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>>156552559
>"s-s-shut up Perdo!!

wow you sure showed him
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>>156552588
>Furryfag this delusional
In the anime your shitty cat was surpassed by SSB Kaioken.
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>>156552597
I've already explained why anyone who thinks Shin's line was an absolute confirmation of Vegito being stronger than Beerus is a retard. So far all I've gotten back is autistic shit like >>156552282
and >>156552115
I'm not even sure why I'm continuing to respond, because it's obvious that nobody else has an actual argument. Maybe I'm just bored.
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>>156550139

That's weird, why does she look all timid in the intro and not now?
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>>156552651
>even greater delusion
WEW
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't 17° basically Saitama now?
>break the limiter
>infinite energy
If 17° is actually stronger than saiyan blue then we got the answer on who was the strongest between Goku and Saitama.
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>>156552707
She only looked timid in the preview. The intro has her scowling and looking determined. The preview image was probably just early stuff like Jiren being with Belmod and Marcarita instead of Toppo
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>>156550596
>SSJ1 Goku fights evenly with SSJ1 Gohan
>He thinks Goku was serious when it's been said countless times that Goku never uses his full power at the beginning.
Piccolo just got stronger, as simple as that. Frost is a cheater anyway.
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>>156552303
its better than elder kai true power revelation form
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>>156550596
this is literally nitpicking, you guys are fucking autistic lmao
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>>156550139
Wait ... she's the brolly femsaiyan? I thought she had long hair and was all shy and shit.
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>>156549032
>detached arm firing a ki blast

Wut
How did his arm know to do that?
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>>156552827
for the same reason the spirit ball works
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Do you think that planet where Cabba and Renso were was Sadala?
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>Piccolo-san, why don't we come up with team attack combinations?

YES
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE THANK GOD
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>>156552679
I'm assuming that includes you as well since the only thing you can say is
>it doesn't count
Looks more like you can't read. Which would make sense if you were projecting and were an uneducated beaner.
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>>156552826
Maybe she gets tamed by Cabba and his SS dick.
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>>156552879
What's Renso a pun of anyway?
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>>156549365
>U7s clutch makes his appearance
FOCKING
HYPE
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>fembroli is not a timid REEE machine
What is happening?
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>>156553031
Hourensou. He's spinach.
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>>156553060
She becomes best girl, destroyer of cabba's dick
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>>156553060
She's what destruction looks like in Saiyan form.
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>>156553200
>>156553285
I guess this expression makes sense now.
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>>156553309
>I could get my old squad leader or-
>...Oh no. OH NO.
>Not HER
>Please tell me his leg healed...
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>>156553285
IT'S YA GIRL CAULIFLA

Femdom doujins coming soon.
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>Piccolo is as strong as gohan's ultimate form
Piccolo is finally back and relevant unlike gohan
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>Cabba recruits a gangster Saiyan
>Takes her to a battle royal for the fate of their universe
Hell of a first date. He's getting to at least 3rd base.
>>
I hope that we get some good amazonian porn for Caulifla's LSSJ form now that her name has been revealed
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>>156553638
I figure if you like

Did a timeline of people's power and training over time

Piccolo compared to everyone else's insane sine waves of progress would just be a slow, steady, murderously patient climb up and up and up.
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>>156553709
The problem is when his girlfriend is like 3 feet tallers than him and built like a fucking truck.

+ Is insane
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Anyone has a gif or webm of Beerus with his arms folded waging his tail?
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>>156552291
>Beerus being stronger than SSB Vegito is fucking stupid
He's not in the manga at least.

Matches up with Toriyama's words.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-animanga-akira-toriyama/
>if Beerus’ strength is a 10, [Super Saiyan] God would be right about 6

and Whis' statement in RoF about how Goku and Vegeta working together could beat Beerus.
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i have never been so confused in my life
and explain why she's with universe 11 then?
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https://youtu.be/lsfhADiaP5E

this is officially the new battle theme for the whole ToP
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>>156553869
be patient for once in your life, fatty
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>>156553869
She isn't. She was just thrown with a random bunch just like other fighters were in the intro
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>>156553709
>>156553745
he's already married
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>>156553869
Same reason Basil is with Hit and Magetta.
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>80 fighters
>one is shown
>THATS IT SHE IS THE ONE FROM THE OPENING NOT THE 50+ WE HAVEN'T SEEN YET

Jesus fucking christ you retards.
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>>156553936
b-b-but she make me have cums ;-;
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>>156553936
>U11fag still assblasted
KEK
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>>156550131
No SSB, but SS.
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>>156550329
superman
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>>156550307
Magic is pretty hax.

Majin Yurin Vegeta when?
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>>156553975
I didn't say she is from u11 you seething pinhead, she may aswell be from 6 as you know, we haven't see the full u6 roster yet.
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I felt so bad for yamcha at the end of the episode
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>>156553936
finally this anon gets it
why would they give her such a massive design change if they were the same person
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>>156551707
And Super Ningen Goddo Trunks was magnitudes more powerful than Vegeto. Their only mistake here is not recruiting F-Trunks. Then he could join team Gohan along with piccilo. Have team Dragon Ball with all the old turtle/crane fighters and team evil with buu and the androids.
Then again, super ningen goddo would probably not be allowed because Trunks would be too OP and just kill everything accidentally due to powergap.
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>>156553978
You know considering that even SS1 for Goku is hideously godbright levels of strong, even standing up to that is pretty swole

But of course Roshi will win he trained the goof, Goku will never win against him
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>>156550139
It seems weird to be doing the legendary super sandwich when Broly's not even canon to Super. I just wanna know how they'll handle it.
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>>156553869
Three reasons.

1.They realized that everyone and their mother would take them to task for there not being a male broly analogue squirreled away in Goku's universe.

2.They would actually reveal that she's a horribly bad joke of a character and retcon of the highest order

3.They are desperate to pull this outright fuck up, that basically shitcans the potential of any and all female SSJ out of the gate, by putting her in U11.


How they'll explain this NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS OR FUCKING CARES!!

Best part? If they just had the fucking balls to simply say. SHE'S THE LSSJ AND YES THERE IS A REAL LSSJ IN GOKU'S UNIVERSE

Maybe... AND HE WAS AWAKENED BY GOKU GOING GOD! SHIT IS GOING TO GET REAL NIGGA!

But no. We have them desperately trying to unfuck this fuck up
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>>156550938
It was pretty cool.
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>>156554076
>different clothes and hairstyle in two different events = massive design change

you people are fucking retarded
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>>156554076
Seems like Broccolini is probably some sort of universe-lost being
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>>156553869
Maybe this is another character?
>Gee Cabba!
>>
>Tien saved for last just to cuck Yamcha
kek
>>
Okay guys

I got it

I know how Roshi got stronger

he started training with Jackie Chun
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>>156554103
You again?
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>>156552079
i.e over his

Animals<ningen<spiritual super natural shit<gods<GoD
By this logic if, like half of the U7 cast, you could kill the Gods you are GoD tier from their perspective. Obviously GoD has close to no uper limit so there's a lot of room to power creep.
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>>156554103
i like the way you think anon
>>
Why U11fags keep trying?
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>>156554076
They don't look that different
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>>156554178
woah shit this guy is onto something
that dude beat Goku and he's probably been training for years
>>
How strong do you think are Tien's disciple?
They have the best possible master in my opinion.
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>>156554103
Listen anon, I know your autistic ass has been bitching about her for weeks now but you have to understand that ''they'' are following a plot outline and using designs made by Toriyama and Toyotaro
''they'' can't just change shit on the fly
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>>156553638
>is as strong
>gimmick shit and trickery
He is a better fighter but Gohan fucking rapes him in raw strength to the point of de-limbing accidentally. They'd make a good team.
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>>156554103
How much you willing to bet on this?
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>>156554127
N-NO THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT CHARACTERS I SWEAR
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>>156554228

>They have the best possible master in my opinion

That would be Piccolo. It helps that Piccolo could probably annihilate Tien with one finger
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>>156554191
Not a U11 fag but it would be fun to have 2 female saiyajins and cabba to counter the three saiyajins on the U7 team
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>>156553638
Nah, Gohan accidentally chopped his fucking arm
The whole point was that Gohan needs to stop getting cocky and actually stay on guard, I like how they are actually addressing this
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>Hey Caulifla why don't you pretend to be weak and demure to put opponents off guard then go hulk mode in their faces?

It makes sense.

>>156554310
It's the same lesson as Goku getting shot by a frickin' laser beam.
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>>156554292
OH MY FUCKING GOD GUYS TRUNKS IS CAULI CONFIRMED

Fucking retard lmao
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>>156554304
But Piccolo wouldn't train some random humans would he?
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>>156554178
>Some shit tier nobody that Toriyama doesn't even remember
that's reaching, he was just some old guy
probably dead
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>>156554305
It would be fucking disappointing if the remaining U6 fighters are all Saiyans
My dream U6 team would be

>Botamo
>Magetta
>Frost
>Cabba
>Caulifla
>Hit
>a U6 Namekian
>a U6 Earthling
>an elite from Frost's army
>U6 version of Cell
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>>156554457
>inb4 the rest of the team really is made up of Hit's siblings
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>>156554492
TIME

TO

MAKE

THE

DONUTS
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>>156554238
LOLOL
Fag they can change an ep in less then a week. And Toyo has a particular QUIRK when it comes to stuff. You can tell the swole chick and skinny dude thing is his and toei's stuff.

>>156554280
The house bitch. But they have to both be light on their feet when it comes to stuff and still follow the retarded outline of toei.
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>>156554492
>None of Hits siblings are fighters
>One is literally just an accountant
>They all still have timeskip powers
>Accountant brother just starts arguing with Gohan and keeps timeskipping to think up new comebacks
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>>156554527
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>>156554457
>Frost having a (canon) army
>an earthling
>Cell counterpart implying counterparts are a thing also implying a fucking artificial being as Cell would have a counterpart
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>>156554552
>His siblings are all god mode with Hiit being the only one who left his world to travel and learn.
>He's actually the nice and kind one.
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>>156554310
>accidentally
Literally Piccolo planned that and even uses it to prove the point that gohan is over confident.
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>>156554552
>Timeskipping literally just to shit talk an opponent
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>>156554457
>U6 version of Cell
Kys
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>>156554457
Yeah that would suck but 3 would be nice in my opinion.
U6 Namek and a underling of frost could bring in some nice dynamic.
Also the human of u6 would be nice to make some more connections with the last tournament, I don't get the appeal of a alternative cell though.
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>>156554492
>>156554552
>>156554585
>>156554600
>Hit's siblings are literally just a bunch of shitposters
>Hit keeps shaking his head and going "This is why I left."
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>>156554616
U6 majins would make more sense.
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>>156554457
>>156554659
>I want U6 versions of...

How about something original you nostalgiafaggots
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>they don't know about Hit's family business ''Skippin Donuts''

he and his siblings are gonna make donuts out of this tournament
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>>156554726
there are the other universes for that, it's reasonable to expect alternate versions of races from U7's twin universe
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>>156554726
How about it's already established Champa's got a jealousy thing going on and specifically wanted more saiyans on his team because he saw how powerful they could be.

Well now he's also seen that fat pink fucker in action, maybe he'd want one of those too.
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Its hilarious comparing the Frost vs Piccolo fight to the Gohan vs piccolo now. Its like from two complete different series. Good job Toei, shame you couldn't fucking do it from episode 1.
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>>156551409
>>156551551
Watch the fucking show
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>>156552907
>gohan will pretend to get choked and die again to throw people off guard

lel
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>>156554793
DBS exactly a year ago and DBS right now are like two completely different shows
Things got better and better after the U6 arc
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>>156554786
Buu is unique.
Word of god states that he predates the current multiverse and might even be older then zeno.
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>>156554793
how many nanomachines did he drink?
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>>156554875
This is actually a valid strategy
>only way to eliminate someone is to throw them out of bounds, even if they collapse
>pretend to collapse
>when your opponent is about to throw you out of bounds and is at the edge of the arena, you do a surprise attack and throw them out of bounds instead
>win
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>>156554793
That's what I've been thinking the entire episode too.
Super has come a long way.
If it's still improving in the actual tournament this might actually become a great show.
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>>156549245
She looks just like a young Chichi
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>>156554643
>He has 3 older siblings named Talk, Shit and Get
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>>156554793
He trained faggot. And he is SSJ2 tiers, it is very reasonable. Frost was not that strong too.
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>>156554945
Kaio-kek x20
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>>156554949
>powerlevelfag in charge of reading comprehension
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>>156549032
>arm firing a ki blast
>super writers don't even know that ki comes from their center and is channeled out through their arms
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>Gohan still hasn't come back home after the exihibition match
>for all she knows, Videl might think he died there

what an asshole for making best girl worry
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>>156555016
I'm sure her dad told her he's fine.
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>>156550448
>>156550463
Gohan never went SSJ2 against Dabura, you can make up headcanon as to why he never had the SSJ2 aura or the sparks even though the very same chapter Goku and Vegeta are covered in sparks.
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>>156554945
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>>156555048
>no sparks in panel 1 or 3
Really makes me think...
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>>156555014
Maybe he channeled some in his arm before it got cut off.
He was trying to attack him after all.
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>Be Toriyama. Tired of a serious show, can't come up with a new show because it wouldn't sell unless people are familiar with the characters.
"How can I show the viewers it's not about tiers or levels anymore? just hype and heart like most shonens. I know! fanfiction Zamasu from the future vs Vegetto! So Cool! (Laughs)"
>Powerlevelfags: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"Oh, maybe that didn't drive the point home. Maybe if I make Trunks as Strong as SS3 and CLEARLY STATE his determination makes power level irrelevant"
>Powerlevelfags: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"Okay let's be more extreme, Krillin will now tank SSB's Kamehameha"
>Powerlevelfags: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"You know what? fuck this garbage, now Roshi will stand up to Goku. If this doesn't send a message I don't know what will."

Why did you fail to protect that smile, Anons? Let the senile man be.
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>>156549265
tx dc
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I love the scenes where Gohan punches/kicks people in half. It was awesome against the Cell Jr.'s, it was awesome in the Bojack movie and it's still awesome now.
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>>156555014
It was cool though.
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>>156555048
Gohan was SS2 was he was much, much weaker than when he fought Cell. The lack of sparks is because he wasn't at full power and just budget cuts, because at that point they had lowered the number of sparks to cut animation costs.
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I think that whatever new form Goku is gonna have in this arc, it's gonna be related to kaioken
When he was fighting Toppo, he said he'd show him what ''surpassing his limit'' would look like and he activated SSB kaioken. Does Goku need kaioken in order to go beyond SSB?
Furthermore, the OP seems to hint at a new transformation and as you can see in pic related the aura looks very kaioken-like
There is also the fact that the kaioken technique was made by King Kai, a god
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>>156555133
>manga
>animation costs
SANIC YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST
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>>156555133
>was he was much
fuck im tired
*but he was
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>>156555159
>manga
>because he wasn't at full power

>anime
>budget cuts

get some reading comprehension friendo
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So guys, why Bulma doesn't just wish to know the formula Dr.Pajero used to create the androids and make like a million #17s???
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>>156554988
Nice rebuttal faggot. I am not obsessed with power levels, it's the objective truth.
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>>156555014
How the fuck do you not know about the spirit ball and special beam cannon techniques? Piccolo has mastered remote ki control and energy storing to be easily usable on the fly in the middle of combat.
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>>156554876
There was a corporate takeover and reformatting with the creation of the Dragon Ball Room editorial office headed by VJump Chief Editor Akio Iyoku.
Essentially Shueisha/Jump saved the tv show from Toei shitting the bed.
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>>156550139
No earrings
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>>156555190
Why doesn't she just wish for a million No. 17s?
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>>156555230
>Dragon Ball Room is enstablished in August
>August is when the show started picking up, especially in terms of animation

Really makes you think
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>>156555195
I'm not sure what this is post is trying to convey. A disembodied arm shooting ki blasts is fucking dumb.

If piccolo and nailed pulled that shit in Z it would have been just as stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZKZA0GM2DM
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>>156555194
I'm not saying you are wrong but he was obviously talking about the quality of animation and choreography not consistency of power.
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>Gohan and Piccolo are training
>18 and Krillin are training
>Beerus and Whis let Vegeta play dad
WTF?
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>>156548983
I thought Buu broke the door, right?
That's why Gotenks had to scream his way out.
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>>156555133
>He was a non full powered SSJ2
Yeah essentially, a SSJ1. He was clearly not fighting at his full potential at that time (which would easily be able to summon sparks)
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>>156555345
Dende rebuilt it before the last tournament. Then Vegeta blew it up again training to defeat Black.
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>>156555287
True but Shueisha/VJump was only officially credited after the Hit vs Goku rematch mini arc. (starting this year with Gohan's episodes around 73)
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>>156555278
Becaues Sheng Long can't create or eliminate things beyond his own power, but you could ask him to bring you a piece of paper.
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>Hit, Toppo, Jiren, 17 and literally all the GoDs got god-level strong on their own
>meanwhile Goku and Vegeta need a bit of god ki inside of them to reach that level

fucking kek, cheaters
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>>156555381
I have no idea how I missed that, wow.
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>>156555351
Gohan obviously had SS2 hair fighting Dabura though, the lack of sparks is because he couldn't power up to max.
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>>156555445
He also doesn't have his aura up for a lot of it, too.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Gohan would work better as an arrogant semi evil fighter?

His cold ruthlessness was pretty much squashed during the Cell games for some fucking reason. So now he's left with being an over confident fuck up who can't seal the deal.
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>>156555300
Its dumb but its also better than just being stretch armstrong ayylmao luffy like in the u6 tourny or cool jobber like in dbz
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>>156555429
Goku and Vegeta spent 3 years training in there. That's why they had those awful beards
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>>156555460
>>156555445
>>156555351

Why is this even relevant anymore? Mystic/Ultimate is not even a state but a transformation so we are clearly establishing new rules for this whole "what does transforming mean in dragon ball" shit.
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>>156555445
I guess I'd call it SSJ1.5 (he gets a half point for having spikier hair)
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>>156555423
I kinda hope they expand on god ki a bit in the tournament arc.
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>>156555515
1.5 is fridgemode though.
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>>156555501
It's always been a form. It just made SSJ irrelevant.
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>>156555501
It's relevant because if Trunks can have 2 different tiers of SSJ2 so can Gohan I suppose.
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>>156555528
Ok then what I meant is SSJ1.75
It's not quite full SSJ boner but it's not limp
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>>156555515
>SS1.5

Goku was a Super Saiyan fighting 19 and he couldn't power up at all because of the heart virus, doesn't mean he wasn't a SS.
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>>156553709
Sounds like the perfect date for a saiyajin girl
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>>156555445
>anime pic
HAHAHAHAHHAAHA nice try
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>>156555623
I bet Vegeta proposed to Bulma at Wrestlemania
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>>156555501
>Mystic/Ultimate is not even a state but a transformation
(You)
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>>156555646
he had ss2 hair against dabura in the comic too you shitposter
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>Gohan is still torturing the dinosaur that ate his friend.
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>>156551474
2017*
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>>156555711
>justice
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>>156555595
Ok let me rename it to SSJ2(minus 0.5)
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>>156555677
>that hair
>SS2
No

>b-but one bang
See >>156550609
Tournament Gohan (and after that) had just one bang even in SS1 (and your pic isn't even really spikier, looks totally SS)
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>>156555711
that just reminded me of the filler dinosaur pet he had that completely disappeared in the buu arc
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>>156555772
All of the ones on the bottom are him channeling SSJ2 power so I don't get what you're trying to prove with that.
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>>156555667
I meant right now, did you see the last episode? Gohan didn't transform anymore because he was supposed to be 100% power always but now he just "transforms" into it in Super because fuck the viewer.
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>>156555806
Thank god for that, annoying little shit
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>>156555667
Let me see something, it goes like this
SSJ1
V
SSJ2 > SSJ Blue/Red
V
fake SSJ3 (goku, literally, stupid version)
real SSJ3 (final mortal form of the SSJ branch used by Trunks in DBS)
Mystic (Gohan, slightly smartest version)

I'm right?
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>>156555807
>All of the ones on the bottom are him channeling SSJ2 power so I don't get what you're trying to prove with that.
If it is "SSJ2" it isn't the same as what was considered to be "Full powered SSJ2" where he fighting at full potential. It also definitely wasn't SSJ2 tier power or aura to back it up either.
It was essentially a hollow SSJ2 compared to what others can do with that form.
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>>156555861
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why can't goku teach gohan how to go blue? what a shit dad he is
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>>156555812
Because Gohan have gone way too weaker than what he was before, he can't achieve Mystic anymore with so many conflicting feelings he's having right now, yeah, is very gay but it makes sense.
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>>156555886
Semantics. It's still SSJ2.
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>>156555908
Only because DBS gave us multiple tiers of SSJ2.
If his hair wasn't spiky that form barely would have counted as SSJ2 whatsoever compared to the SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta in the very same chapter.
Was his powerlevel at SSJ2 tier? No. That's why people would argue forever on this subject.
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Gohan obviously looks more like the bottom than the top in both the anime and manga during his Dabura fight
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>>156555861
What? no.
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>>156555519
>turns out when a mortal is appointed as God of Destruction, the Grand Priest gives them new ki
>that is what is referred to as ''god ki'', but it's actually just a fragment of the Grand Priest's ki
>all the gods, Goku and Vegeta are just using small fragments of the Grand Priest's ki
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>>156555934
Semantics. It's still SSJ2. And all Trunks gave us was the SSJ2 version of Full Power SSJ. It's not a different "tier" of SSJ, it's the complete mastery of the form.
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>this much headcanon and bullshit because you can't deal with Gohan being SS
This is beyond pathetic
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>>156555812
>did you see Toei's bullshit filler?
Yes. Your point?
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>>156556005
>Still going at it even when proven wrong
kys
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>>156555989
No it's literally a different tier by definition. That is best term to describe it with considering he fights in a weaker tier of normal SSJ2 before going full throttle.
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>120 IPs
Based Chadhan, truly /ourguy/
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>>156556005
>aura is white
>implying it's SSJ
haha fucking LOOOOOOOOOL
>>
It's not really the power levels that bug me about all these power ups, but just the fact that the entire cast was topping out on how strong they could get and they are now surpassing their maximums without explanation. That's what annoys me. God ki makes sense because it's a new level ki being given to you, but Goku had pretty much reached his max otherwise. SSJ3 was a half-baked form trying to squeeze the last few drops of progression he could out of himself. Gohan had his potential awakened, aka his maximum power, but now he can go past it? Krillin couldn't advance any farther so he just retired. Tenshinhan trained his ass off for multiple years and could barely make his tiny advance during buu saga. Roshi was done long ago. Piccolo is really the only one who feels ok advancing like this, but even in his case, he maxed out what he could do with training and had to fuse with other namekians to keep his power boosts going. It just seems kind of crazy that everyone is going past their plateaus like they never even existed.
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>>156555807
>him channeling SSJ2 power
Oh you're just baiting I got it
Sorry I bit
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>>156556043
Not even close. You either have mastery or you don't.
>>156556058
>look at me!
(You)
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>>156555888
Goku SSJ3 version(long hair) was literally, not an opinion, a retarded technique he used to "explode" all his energy in a very narrow space of time, it was stupid and he realized this in the final fight against kid buu, it was the limit of his power until the moment he met Bills.

Trunks power up was a real power up, just like when Gohan reached SSJ2, you know, the one that beat the shit out of Beyond Perfect Cell, but this time was a jump from SSJ2 to the next level, the real SSJ3 and no a retarded technique, and of course he used it against a slow, clumsy and weakened Zamasu.

>>156555948
Then?
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>>156556025
Ok.
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>>156555935
Because his hair changed you literal autist
Every time he goes SS after train with Goten his hair looks like that
When he fought Dabura, Buu and when he pull out the Z sword. His fucking hair changed, you have no argument
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>>156556054
all those characters ''maxing out'' is literally just your headcanon
we have like at least four mortals right now and potentially all the GoDs showing that you don't need god ki to get that far
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>>156556073
>You either have mastery or you don't.
Except he literally fought in different tiers of SSJ2.
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>>156556088
You could not possibly structure your sentences in a more confusing way.
Goku's SSJ3 was the actual SSJ3. It brought out every bit of power from every cell in his body but since he had not trained it, it strained him so much that it wasn't very effective in a living body.
Trunks' SSJ2 when he sparred with Goku was not SSJ3 and his form in the anime against Merged Zamasu certainly fucking wasn't.
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>people are actually arguing over trunks asspull toei power of friendship powerup and what tier it is
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>>156556126
>it has to be a different version of SSJ2 in order for him to not be fighting at 100%
That's like saying Goku was in a different tier of SSJ when he was warming up against Cell, retard.
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>>156556166
No people are talking about Manga Trunks having multiple tiers of SSJ2 fitting quite well into the established lore and it could even add insight to Gohan's unique and weaker form.
>>
>Cabba didn't teach his fellow Saiyans how to go SSJ
>he just kept it to himself to become the most elite Saiyan space-cop

what a dickhead
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>>156556182
Except i'm talking about Tiers and power output, not never did I say different "form" you idiot.
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>>156555988
I really hope we get to see him fight at some point.
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>>156555806
You mean Icarus? Wasn't he only in the movies?
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>>156556211
Neither did I, retard. Try reading. Trunks held back using 100%. It wasn't a new tier of SSJ2. It was just him exerting 100% of SSJ2, which he had mastered.
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>>156556229
it appeared in the garlic jr filler arc too
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>>156556249
>It wasn't a new tier of SSJ2. It was just him exerting 100% of SSJ2, which he had mastered.
Which is literally a different tier of SSJ2 in comparison to Goku's SSJ2.
That warrants the usage of the "different SSJ2 tier" vocabulary necessary to describe his power output you retard.
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>>156554368
>shitting on Jackie Chun
you and I can never be friends anon, I hope you realize that.
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>>156549337
>>156549226
>>156549763
http://www.onlyhgames.com/bulma-adventure/
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>>156556301
No, it wasn't. Trunks has mastery over SSJ2, Goku does not. It's not a new tier. It has to do with Trunks having more practice and experience with the form. Grow a brain.
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>>156549245
>is she gonna be nude at one part?
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>>156551032
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>>156556326
>It's not a new tier.
It literally is by definition for the sake of discussion.
A Fully mastered SSJ2 is a new "tier" of SSJ2 power never before showcased until he used it.
The term "tier" is necesarry to differentiate it from his default SSJ2 power which is the same as others such as Goku.
If you can't comprehend such a basic linguistic concept you're the one that needs to grow a brain.
>>
>>156554597

...

How dumb are you?
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>>156556375
>for the sake of discussion
My ass. If you need to break everything down into little categories in order to be able to discuss them then you're probably autistic. It's mastered SSJ2 or even Full Power SSJ2. Not a new tier.
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>>156556415
>It's mastered SSJ2 or even Full Power SSJ2. Not a new tier.
That's literally a tier you retard.
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So what does Gohan actually bring to the tournament? He's terrible at keeping his guard, he's not the strongest, not the smartest and brings no tactical advantage?

He doesn't actually bring anything unique to the tournament
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>>156556154
>no because I say no!
Huh? And yeah, the same Goku knows it's just a stupid technique to "throw more power" in a short period of time which ended up harming him more than benefiting him, it was stupid and an incomplete form of the SSJ3.
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>>156556429
A tier would be something like USSJ, not just SSJ2 but with experience and practice.
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>>156555287
>Goku fighting Goku over a giant melon
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>>156556364
>that image
I haven't lost that hard in a while
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>>156556126
I wonder what Trunks initial reaction was to seeing how weak Goku's SSJ2 was compared to his own
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>>156556470
No FPSSJ2 qualifies as a tier simply because it's up there with SSJ3. All other shit is meaningless in comparison to these basic facts.
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>>156556449
>it was stupid and an incomplete form of the SSJ3
How the fuck was it incomplete? It was a fully and perfectly functioning form.
Trunks never went SSJ3.
Fuck off, pedro.
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Someone make a new thread
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>>156556503
>No FPSSJ2 qualifies as a tier simply because it's up there with SSJ3
Nice retard logic, retard. That's like saying USSJ is a tier of LSSJ because they're both really buff. Kys.
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>>156556531
SSJ2 fighting at SSJ3 tier literally puts it on a different level as normal SSJ2.
This fact alone makes it a different "tier" now stfu.
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>>156555151
i agree
the real question is gohans new form, piccolo said he can go beyond mystic

also vegeta
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migrate
>>156548844
>>156548844
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>>156556559
>SSJ2 fighting at SSJ3 tier literally puts it on a different level as normal SSJ2
No, that just means Trunks is really strong. Has nothing to do with the form having a new "tier".
>s-stfu, s-stop proving me wrong
lmao
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Why people take Toei's filler seriously...?
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>>156556364
>>156556495
I'll give you the lonely (You)s you want.

Funny how you always seem to show up when threads hit autosage though.
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Question to everyone, is this >>156556510 really what you have to handle by entering this threads? Mad kids being mad because someone try to argue with them? Good thing I actually don't give a shit

Buddy, first, read your own comment, the one I reply to, you first said that it strained his body and wasn't very effective and now you are saying it was perfect, I have the feeling you are disagreeing with me just for funs sake. Secondly, yes, Trunks did, or how do you want to call this new form beyond SSJ2 Trunks reached and fully controlled?
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>>156556609
>No, that just means Trunks is really strong. Has nothing to do with the form having a new "tier".
Yes he does calibrate his SSJ2 to two different tiers, the manga speaks for itself >>156556126
>>156556126
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>>156556623
gohan getting potential unleashed back isn't filler
the fight between krillin and android is
pls try to think
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>>156556660
>Good thing I actually don't give a shit
>as I try to shame you on an anonymous thailand knitting group chat
ultimate lel
>first said that it strained his body and wasn't very effective and now you are saying it was perfect
>I can't read so that means your statement had flaws, I'm totally not illiterate
SSJ3 functioned as intended. It just wasn't very efficient during the Buu saga since it was a very untrained form.
>Secondly, yes, Trunks did
>hair didn't grow
>eyebrows didn't go away
Yeah, no. He didn't go SSJ3, taco. It was still SSJ2.
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>>156556634
I don't think giving attention to a mediocre shitposter is a good idea
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>>156556694
don't talk to that guy. he said there's no tiers but then 180s

he doesn't understand how to critically think
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>>156556694
>b-but the manga
All the manga says is that Trunks is stronger. It doesn't say shit about tiers. Stay fucked, autlord.
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>>156556752
Except it's, he doesn't even lost their ultimate form in the Super manga
Manga Gohan have gi, bang and ultimate form. Anime Gohan got this filler to catch his manga counterpart.
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>>156556759
technically ssj2 is a fully powered ssj. trunks mastered it better. ssj3 is just overclocked ssj

there's no ssj1 ssj2 or ssj3 just ssj and different applications and mastery of the form.

this is further proved by ssj3 being an energy hog that over heats. but the best proof is cell arc where trunks vegeta and goku found a buff version of ssj
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>>156556852
>technically ssj2 is a fully powered ssj
Wrong. Full Power Super Saiyan/SSJ Grade 4 is a fully powered SSJ. SSJ2 is it's own form with its own multiplier. Stop getting such basic shit wrong.
>ssj3 is just overclocked ssj
If anything, SSJ Grade 2 and Grade 3 are overclocked versions of SSJ.
Educate yourself, beaner. I'm tired of your ignorant shit.
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>>156556850
the mangas retarded it brought back ssj red which requires a ritual to activate. the only true canon is toriyamas outline which we can only infer by cross referencing both sources. toyotaro has been given liberties. in this case as well the manga is promotional material for the anime.
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>>156556904
im not even the guy you were talking to before

please stop posting racist

btw im white
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>>156556936
I don't care. You're equally as ignorant and that's really all that matters.
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>>156556759
>try to shame you
You are doing the job for me, I don't need to do anything.

>first said that it strained his body and wasn't very effective and now you are saying it was perfect
>I can't read so that means your statement had flaws, I'm totally not illiterate
SSJ3 functioned as intended. It just wasn't very efficient during the Buu saga since it was a very untrained form.
Is like talking with a potato chip.

>Secondly, yes, Trunks did
>hair didn't grow
>eyebrows didn't go away
>Yeah, no. He didn't go SSJ3, taco. It was still SSJ2.
Yeah, because adding thunders around the SSJ1 didn't made it SSJ2, great logic there but repeating "no no no" won't make it right.
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>>156556623
>toilet paper scribbles reader posting anime reaction faces
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>>156556917
>denial
Oh I see. Enjoy your filler, then.
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>>156556962
>I don't need to do anything
Clearly. That's why you did as you did.
>Is like talking with a potato chip
You're right. Talking to you is like talking to a chip.
>Yeah, because adding thunders around the SSJ1 didn't made it SSJ2
Holy shit, what the fuck are you even trying to say with this sentence? Spend 10 more years learning english before replying to me again. It's hard enough deciphering your autism but combined with your broken english it's fucking impossible. Educate yourself, pablo.
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>>156556958
how am i ignorant by extrapolating toriyamas original intent with the forms? you need to rewatch or reread the cell arc to fully grasp the concept of super saiyan
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>>156557054
Take your own advice. SSJ2 is its own form. It's not a version of SSJ1.
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>>156557040
>literally can't prove me wrong
>stop pretending to have an argument and goes full autismo ranting
You know it's a good day when you made an anon break his precious screen and fill his keyboard with tears.
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>>156556968
>ssj blue has immense transformation cost
>ssj red requires ritual to access, not as powerful as ssjb
>veg goes ssj red
>ass pull bypasses the form cost
pls
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>>156557073
>SSJ2 is its own form. It's not a version of SSJ1.
Not him but SS2 and SS3 are just powered up versions of SS according to Toriyama
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>>156557073
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>>156557120
I don't have to prove anything. You're simply wrong. You're saying shit that conflicts with facts that have been around for years. But I'll accept your concession, retard. Thanks for all the (You)s.
>>156557144
The only time SSJ2 was a powered up version of SSJ1 was for a short time after it was introduced when it was called Ascended Saiyan/SSJ Grade 5. It was later changed to SSJ2 and became its own form. You're factually wrong.
>>156557171
Nice fallacy fallacy.
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>>156557144
did he confirm it himself ?
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>>156549504
it's too late now
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>>156557218
Except he said it after BoG you denialtard
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>>156557218
you mean it's called ssj2 for ease of access during linguistic events
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>>156556444
>So what does Gohan actually bring to the tournament?
Potential. The correct answer is always potential.
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>>156555555
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