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Ougi>Karen>Suruga>Shinobu>Tsukihi>H itagi>Tsubasa>Yotsugi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Ougi>Karen>Suruga>Shinobu>Tsukihi>Hitagi>Tsubasa>Yotsugi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nadeko
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Shinobu > everyone else. It's that simple.
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>>156427190
/thread
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Monkey > Bee > Bat > Snail > Doll > Spook > Cat > Crab > Snake > Bird
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>>156427275
>Bird worse than Snake
You fucking heathen.
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>>156427366
Bird is a cunt. Will never understand her popularity.
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>>156427405
You may dislike her, that's your opinion and I respect that, but I do have a question, is she really a bigger cunt than Snake?
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>>156427453
I don't care for Snake either and I don't like her much more than Bird but I do think she's cuter.
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大杉は最高の物語だと誰もが知っている。私はこの記事を書くためにGoogle翻訳を使用しませんでした。
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Bat=Crab>Math>others>Snake>Cat
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>>156428317
>That stare
Muh Dick!
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Araragi>All the girls combined
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Shinobu > Hachikuji > Tsukihi > the rest > Senjougahara = Hanekawa > Nadeko > Gaen
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>>156427166
Good lord, Karen is a giant.

Vamp > Spook > Crab > Snail > Corpse > Bird > Monkey > Cat > Snake > Bee > Math

I haven't finished Kizu yet, maybe I'll change my mind about Cat.
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>>156428785
Some people swear up and down it made them completely reevaluate her. Personally, I saw no reason to change my opinion.
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Cat > Vamp > Snail > Crab > Snake > Monkey > Phoenix > Bee > Doll > Math > Spooky > Kagenui > Gaen
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>>156427166
Bat > Doll > Snail > Snake > Bird > Spook > Bee > Monkey > Cat > Crab > Math

After seeing Kizu, I can confirm that Bat is true love and cat is max slut

Shinobu > Elf > Teen > Loli > Original > 5 Head
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>>156428928
>ranking forms
>bullying her for how she looked while emaciated and dying
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Monkey > Cat > Bat > Doll > Kagenui > Snail > shit >> Crab > Ougi > Gaen > Snake >>>> Phoenix and Bee
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>>156428981
She was selfish in that form, they drew her to emphasize how she was internally

Loli = childish whimsy at having a new minion
Elf = quiet elegance/seriousness because she respects araragi for actually coming through
Teen = Excited to get back to normal and being thankful things are almost over but she still has some "growing up" to do
Adult = Back to being full of power and life, hence why she looks scary and can murder him with her pinky
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>>156429063
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>>156429107
>getting butthurt because the show has characters with personality and not just waifubait

If you really like her so much, you should be able to call out her flaws and still appreciate them. Kizu made me like her even more than I already did
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>>156429121
>make a super pretentious post inventing symbolism where there is none
This is what you deserve.
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>>156429140
>inventing symbolism in the SHAFT high budget movie adaptation of a monogatari novel

Sure lad, both the studio known for pretentious symbolism and the author just gave her 5 forms for giggles.
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>>156429186
>give me your life because I'm so much better than you
>looks like a super beautiful adult

>planning to trick Araragi into killing her
>looks like a child

>planning to trick Araragi into killing her
>looks like an older child

>planning to trick Araragi into killing her
>looks like a teenager

>planning to trick Araragi into killing her, but maybe give him a chance to stick around
>looks like an adult

>the plan failed and now she's half dead
>looks half dead

Yes, her physical form is definitely a reflection of her inner character and not just an at-a-glance power meter.
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Popular opinion:
Snake>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>156429250
It's from the perspective of the viewer and araragi himself. The form of an apparition is dictated by the people that witness them and believe in them. She looks how he sees her, especially because it's from his viewpoint. She is shinobu after because he sees her like that. It could even be argued that she's blonde because Hanekawa told him about her being blonde.
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Why is bat is overrated?
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>>156429296
> It could even be argued that she's blonde because Hanekawa told him about her being blonde.
Nonsense
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>>156429296
You're getting too enamored with that principal going full fucking retard with it. Kaii need observers to survive, and can be somewhat influenced by them, but they still have their own form and agency. Shinobu lays this out directly at the beginning of Tsuki. The series demonstrates this as well. You wouldn't normally think of a vampire having laser eye beams or a katana.

You could argue that she looks ugly in that moment is symbolism for Araragi seeing her as she truly is, but saying that she's only selfish there is patently false.

>It could even be argued that she's blonde because Hanekawa told him about her being blonde.
Except for the part where every narrator explicitly says that she is blonde even when they come with no preconceptions. Again, going full retard.
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>>156429347
Why do you hate true love?
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>>156429422
I don't hate her, she's just not the most lovable to me
Cat is more moe and crab is more romantic
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>>156427366
AHHHHHHH
Braid bird is so perfect. Bird is for marriage and raising an honorable family.
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>>156429347
f/a/gs love their intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor lolis.
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>>156429509
She looks the best with her super long hair though.
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Snail > Cat > Monkey > Bat > Bee > Doll > Bird > Crab > Maths > Spook > Snake
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>>156427166
Suruga>Karen>Hitagi=Tsubasa>Ougi>Hachikuji>Shinobu>Yotsugi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tsukihi>>>Nadeko
Also love how in this pic Kanbaru is in middle of all the lolis.
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Snail > Bat > Doll > Bird > Monkey > Crab > Snake > Cat > Bee
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>>156427166
But that's wrong.
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>>156431374
lolicon spotted
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bee>monkey>crab=cat>snail>bat>bird>snake
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>>156427166
Amazing, you managed to showcase literal shit taste.
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>show used to be good
>it's 2017 and it's completely caved in to the anti-lolicon sentiment of everything popular
Such a shame.
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Monkey is ugly.
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>>156434114
Take that back. She's fucking adorable.
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>>156427166


I think the only objective answer is:

All > Senjougahara
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>>156431976
Snake is more loli than Monkey though
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>>156434114
fag
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Monkey > crab = cat = bat = spook = snail > bird = bee = doll > else > snake

i'll respect any list where monkey is top 3, above bee and snake is last
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>>156427166
Friendly reminder that Araragi is only allowed to make love with Hanekawa
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Monkey>Bat>Bee>Doll>Snail>Sleeves>Crab>Cat>Bird>Snake>Math

Conman>Homeless man>Violent bitch>Know-it-all bitch>Origami autist
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>>156437114
friendly reminder they are nothing alike and only sexually attracted to each other
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>>156437179
read the 20 LN volumes again
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>>156437228
reminder cat set off on a trip around the world to fulfill her sexual desires by fucking a guy on every continent and also Dramaturgy
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Nadeko has the cutest dance though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9ciwl3sPo
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Ougi>Hitagi>Yotsugi>Gaen>Karen>Suruga>Tsuhiki>Kagenui>Sodachi>Shinobu>>>>>>>>> Fat, Sweaty KyoAni fag> Nadeko
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>>156429897
this
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>>156434784
Yeah but snake's also trash
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>>156429509
>>156429897
>>156437492
But everyone knows fluffy bob Bird is the cutest, most headpattable Bird
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The order is simple if you're not retarded.

Bat = Snail = Monkey > Bird = Bee > Doll > Cat > Crab > Snake > Spook > Math
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>>156437596
She's one of the most compelling character in Monogatari unlike Karen, that one is purely fapbait character
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>>156437748
>Snake over Math

You sure you're not the one who's retarded?
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>>156437868
To tell you the truth, I forgot Math even existed and had finished my list with Spook, only adding Math as an afterthought.
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>>156428317
this anon gets it
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Math > Snail > Bat > Monkey > Bee > Cat > Bird > Crab > Snake > Doll > Spook > good tier >> bad tier > gaen

Math is a perfect angel, I can't hope for animated imouto and animated Fiasco.
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>>156428317
>Math over Monkey, Bee, Bird, and Doll
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>>156437920
Its okay. Ougi forgives you.
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Snake>Bat>Math>Snail>Bee>Monkey>Spook>Bird>Cat>Crab>Doll
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>>156438089
>>156438677
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>>156437596
Nice joke, Monkey fag.
Which is quite intriguing, since Monkey seems to be quite popular around here, and Nadeko gets trashed to no end, whereas Monkey is among the least popular girls due to nips, and Snake among most popular.
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>>156440216
>Nips have shit taste once again
>/a/ristocrats have the most refined tastes as always
How is that intriguing?
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>>156440324
Nips have by far superior taste than casualfucks like you will ever have.
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>>156440061
Math is wonderful though, over the top justicefag, caring tsundere bro, insane but functional, tanks everything Nisio throws at her.

Also good for hatesex, self deprecating sex and healing vanilla sex with lots of cuddling.
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>>156440216
liking some psycho bitch who can justify killing all the people she met just because she doesnt want any responsibilities and sluts herself out to the first guy who was nice to her
vs
best bro in the series who will fight for you and save you from invisible snakes
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>>156440369
If Nips had any amount of taste, there'd be bitter gang wars in the streets trying to break the best girl stalemate between Kanbaru and Kissshot. Nadeko is literally only popular due to her VA.
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>>156440469
>>156440429
Fuck off degenerates, just because you hate cute little girls doesn't mean everyone likes manwomyn more.
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>>156429479
>>156428838
>>156428785

The reason I love Cat as a character is because after watching/reading kizu, and going back to watch bake, you can really see and hear the salt she has toward araragi after she realizes hitagi and him are dating, and it's glorious.
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>>156440537
>f-fuck off
nadeko is the worst
character wise she is interesting, she has good ops and a good va
monkey is better in every other way
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People who engage in these "best girl" pissing contests don't even care about the characters, they just need some excuse to fight other people.
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>>156440621
>she's better because I say so, thank god she's an adult strong womyn not a shitty little girl
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Ougi>Hachikuji>Yotsugi>Shinobu>Karen>Tsukihi>Nadeko>Mariana Trench>Suruga>Tsubasa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shit>Hitagi.
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>>156440537
Nadeko isn't even cute compared to Yotsugi, Hachikuji, and Shinobu. Nadeko is outclassed in every parameter, even Hanekawa and Sodachi end up better embodying her theme of building resentment. Kaiki steals the spotlight on the second part of her story. She is trash as a human and as a character.
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>>156440828
Your opinion isn't fact, retard.
>emotionless snorefest
>adult woman in fake form
I give you Mayoi, but then again, no lewd of her, so Nadeko wins.
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>>156440782
>she's better because I say so
ive given you reasons why snake is bad and ive given you reasons why i think monkey is great you are the one who hasnt made an argument

are you an idiot?
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>>156440907
No, you haven't, you just posted your shitty opinions, dumb phoneposter.
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>>156440893
>he doesn't understand Doll's character
>he likes Snake because he requires visceral fanservice rather than the cerebral fanservice provided by the other lolis
>he calls others retarded
I see now, so these are the depths of a soul taken by the curse of shit taste.
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>>156440893
>>156440963

>>156440429 this isnt opinion

its honestly insane to me that someone like you exists, like how do you look at what you've typed and think "this is a good idea to post"
your last couple posts are just you saying other peoples opinions are wrong and name calling, you are literally doing what you are accusing other people of doing

also thinks for shitting up your thread with your shitty snakefag "i must defend my waifu" mentality
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>>156441074
Go and cultivate your strong manwomyn, faggot.
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Ougi is the only girl I need, not just in Monogatari but the world.
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>>156441132
>this isn't opinion
Yes, yes it is, a twisted, overgeneralized opinion of someone who doesn't like cute little girls.
Fuck off girl hater.
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>>156441132
>it's honestly insane to me that someone like you exist
You are the minority though, aside from your normalfag circlejerkers.
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>>156441179
classic snakefagging
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>>156441141
Don't you want to talk about Snake's charm points? I mean, you can name at least one, right? We already established that she's nowhere near as cute as the loli threesome brigade Araragi chooses to hang out with instead of her, so what else is there?
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>>156441272
Sure thing, girl hater. :3
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>>156437824
compelling != good
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>>156441315
go back to tumblr with your "everyone else has a bad opinion even when they use facts and reasoning, but my opinions are flawless and I cant be wrong ever" mindset
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>>156441296
>We already established that she's nowhere near as cute as the loli threesome brigade
You established them, because you like them and think they are cute as people like and think about pets.
Also
>not liking yamato nadeshiko
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OFFICIAL TRASH GIRLS/FANS LIST
>Snake/Snakefags
>Ougi/Ougifags

the rest of you are cool, have a nice day
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>>156441373
Oh, the irony, sweet irony.
Stupid insecure minority.
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>>156441454
>Stupid insecure minority.
Snakefags?
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>>156441413
>t. normalfag
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>>156441454
how is that ironic?
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>>156441705
Snake is incomparably more popular than your manwomyn where it matters.
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>>156441405
That pun, especially as delivered in the OP, is better than anything else about Snake. I'm glad you can at least enjoy that much, since there's nothing else to enjoy with such a shitty girl. Too bad she doesn't get to have witty dialogues with Araragi like the infinitely cuter Snail, Yotsugi, and Shinobu.
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>>156441808
how many posts have you made defending snake in this thread?
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>>156441865
I'm not even arguing with you, since you clearly see no value in young girls.
If you did, you'd start to see Nadeko's worth, just like Japan.
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kanbaru = shinobu = karen = hachikuji = doll = tsukihi > snake > *
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I just finished reading Suruga Monkey and the sexual tension at the beginning of Nadeko Snake between Ragiko and Suruga is unbearable, I wonder why that didn't translate into the adaptation.
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>>156441966
I love little girls, they're generally great, except for Snake. In fact, thinking about it just makes me want another time travel story with loli-Kanbaru, or maybe Araragi decides he wants to go watch the BaruHara Combi in action.

>>156442181
I think it's kind of cheating to use equivalence. At that point, things basically break down into UltraSSS Tier, Tolerable Tier, and Snake+Math Tier.
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>>156442340
marshmallows
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>>156428317
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>>156442765
wew
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>>156428928
her butt is nadekos outfit, nice
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>>156429529
>just loli
>Not the entire fucking character
KEK
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>>156442342
By the way, my list would go something like
Snail>Bat>Snake>Doll>Bird>Cat>Crab>Bee>Ougi

So let me tell you why I like Nadeko. Her character in general is meek and girly, while also a bit of seductive. I like it in her that she has eyes on an older guy (not her little fag classmates), and she knows how to get the attention of him, and despite her shy nature, she goes for it quite boldly. Add to that she has an ideal if very youthful body, and it's just that hotter.
Her biggest flow is though how she is actually pretty weak mentally, and it really shows when she victimizes herself instead of trying to go along with anything she does, like her advances on Araragi. She actually chooses the status quo instead of his love.
All of that peaks when she lets herself overtaken by the god, that brings all her negative traits out, hard.
Then again, it's an extreme situation, and having a weak character is something I find moe in her, not something to get upset about, as she never intended to act upon any ill intent when she was mentally stable.
And as far as her gimmicks go, I loved her retro silliness.

On the other hand, I never disliked Monkey herself. But like you said "she's like best bro", that's exactly how I feel about her. She's cool, but can't really look at her like a girl, she's one of the few dyke characters that actually acts like one would expect: masculine, aggressive, jokes around dirty.
She's ideal to hang out, but her girly level is pretty low.

And like I said, girliness is something of the most important appeals to me, so it's obvious who I like more between the two, be her character however flawed or weak.
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>>156427522
Snake is great, would like to see more lewd with her and Ragi
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>>156443056
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>Of course, that doesn’t mean we’ve forgiven each other. Perhaps in 400 years’ time, there will come a day when we can forgive one another, and a day when we can forget about everything, but for now, call it complacency or call it compromise, call it collusion or call it clowning, that’s how it is between the two of us.

>“If you were to die tomorrow, I would be ready to end my own life tomorrow—and if you care to live for today, then so will I.”

>“If you were to die the day after tomorrow, I would live until the day after that—and I would tell someone else your story. I would proudly tell them tales of my master.”
Shinobu/Araragi>everyone
This is litterly marriage only without the death does us apart thing, because even in death they are together.
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>>156428317
You have good taste my friend
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>>156443233
It does very little to me compared to Nadeko's more subtle scenes.
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>>156443233
Do you think she'd ever become a camwhore? She could make millions.
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>>156441413

All the haters in the world can't deny my love to my waifu.
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>>156441413
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>>156443696
i think she becomes a sports doctor later
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>>156442340
Can't fit everything into the anime. Nadeko Snake got hit the hardest in that regard regarding the Bake arcs though, yeah. The whole "rrragi & his girlfriend's lesbian friend act more like a couple than rrragi & his actual girlfriend do" running gag is sorta downplayed in the anime.
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>>156443259
I wonder how long Shinobu had that response to Araragi's vow planned before she said it aloud. Because that was definitely not ad-libbed.
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>>156443791
I'm so glad I started the books, makes me love the story even more.
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>>156443056
>her girly level is pretty low
Way to completely misread her character. The entire point is that she has a really high girly level despite the tomboy traits. That's what makes her so best.
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>>156443953
That's just twisted inerpretation right there.
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>>156443056

Why don't a lot of people like Ougi much? Too creepy/not kawaii?
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>>156442823
>Are you an Italian
Never fails to make me laugh
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>>156444056
My reason is that she doesn't feel like a girl at all.
Aside from being a total jerk.
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>>156444056
Spooky as hell and manipulative. Also seems to be able to alter people's memories and perception of her.
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>>156444131
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>>156427166
Kaiki > power gap > Shinobu > the rest
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>>156443056
>She's cool, but can't really look at her like a girl, she's one of the few dyke characters that actually acts like one would expect: masculine, aggressive, jokes around dirty. She's ideal to hang out, but her girly level is pretty low.
I'm pretty sure couples basically being "best friends" is a lot more normal than the opposites attract-type stuff dramas in general push (since it's easy to work in melodrama into a relationship/story with this), generally speaking anyway.
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>>156444056
I love her.
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>>156444034
How so?
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>>156443791
Kabuki, just fucking kabuki
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>>156444283
It's more accurate to say she has a girly side despite being pretty masculine in general rather than saying she has a really high girly level.
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>>156444470

People may say my waifu is shit and I accept that, but there is no way Ononoki is D tier.
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According to the modern japanimation encyclopedia, blonde girl and/or first appearance character almost always win. Which conclude, bat will take the trophy. however, waifufaggotary have shown this aren't always true. Taking Eva*******, which today fans takes more than a decade to solve who is the best girl suggest the next decade probably another /a/ thread will be posted to bring up this manner. This is true unless the WW3 happens and wipeout the birthplace of anime. In a nutshell, you just happen to read a rant posted by nothing to do anon just passing by this thread.

nope, i dont need (you)
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>>156444336
I think it's the other way around. She's presented as a tomboy, but the more that is shown of her character the more you realize she is actually a pure and wonderful maiden. Even in her first appearance, the entire matter is caused by the jealous heart of a young girl.
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Gaen>>>>all
Buy some taste autists
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>>156444279
kill yourself trapfag
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>>156444682
Maybe you should. She looks like a fucking Pokemon trainer.
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I love Yotsugi so much! Sarcastic dandere's are great.
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>>156427166
Snake>Monkey>Crab>Spook=Doll>>>>Cat>Math>Bird>Snail>Bat>Bee
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>>156440216
>whereas Monkey is among the least popular girls due to nips
Yeah, although I do think that's in part due to fit girls typically being less popular than everyone else in casts like this for some reason.

>and Snake among most popular.
No. Shinobu, Gahara, Hanekawa and Hachikuji are the most popular girls. In that order. If you're going to acknowledge Kanbaru being comparitively unpopular then you're gonna have to also acknowledge that Nadeko is too. Nips like HanaKana more than they like the character itself.
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>>156444682
Nice VA, wasted on an annoying as hell character. Pretty sure she is intended to be annoying, I don't care though.
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>>156444811
Priestess>Denial>Shogi>Strategian>Onee-sword>Snow loli>Old hag>Butterfly's waifu
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>>156444730
triggered faggot
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>>156444650
the best example of this is how she acted when rouka came onto her
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>>156444730

She isn't a boy, she is just tricking Kanbaru. There is no proof she is male since she is a compulsive liar.
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>>156444739
>>156444774
>>156444887
>said by normalfags who likes generics waifus
fuckin faggots
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>>156445268

How is Ougi generic?
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>>156445037
I can agree with your first place but Nanami should be second along with Hitei
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>>156438089
Yeah, Math should be over literally every other character.
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>>156437313
is this true or just a meme?
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What does it smell like?
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>>156445568
smells like best girl
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>>156444833
But that's wrong. Snake is at least on par wit Cat and Snail especially considering she's much less relevant character.
https://www.animeranking.net/stat.php?id=64
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>>156427166
Kaiki > Monkey > Snail > Bat > Bee > Math > Crab > Doll > Spooky > Bird > Cat > Snake
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>>156445723
This.
Nadeko is extremely popular compared to her screentime.
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>>156446625
She would have 0 popularity if she had a VA without a large following.
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>>156446661
That's not true, so stop your meme spouting.
Sawashiro Miyuki is also extremely popular and see where it got Monkey.
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>>156446661

She would have 0 popularity if Medusa and End didn't happen.
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>>156446846
Shinobu would have 0 popularity if not for her older form being her true form.
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>>156445723
>considering she's much less relevant character.
She's gotten more focus than Hachikuji has by this point. 2nd most popular character in this series is the chick who's barely around too. "Relevance" a pretty much a non-factor, if it was then Hanekawa should be the most popular girl.
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>>156446972
>Shinobu would have 0 popularity if not for her older form being her true form.
Are you being sarcastic or are you legit this retarded?
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>>156446972

You're pretty deluded.
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>>156447043
>sarcastic
>retarded
Neither.
It's not exactly a lolicon series so what makes you think Shinobu would have half the popularity if not for her older form.
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>>156447136

10% at most of the Shinobu fans prefer Kiss-Shot over Shinobu. There is a reason people constantly post Shinobu pictures, figures, dakis, etc.
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>>156447136
>It's not exactly a lolicon series so what makes you think Shinobu would have half the popularity if not for her older form.
>actually believed this
Wew lad, I thought I had seen stupid but then you appeared.
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>>156447129
>deluded
>posts loli form that didn't get fanservice whereas her adult form got plenty
Yeah, way to prove your point.
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>>156447213

>didn't get fanservice

Literally the first time in the series Shinobu actually talked to Araragi, she was naked and taking a bath with him.
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>>156445723
>But that's wrong
In both the Akiba Souken and Madokagatari polls she's below Shinobu, Senjou, Mayoi and Hanekawa, for what it's worth.

>>156446805
>Sawashiro Miyuki is also extremely popular and see where it got Monkey.
Hiroshi Kamiya and Kana Hanazawa are by far the most popular VAs in the industry at the moment. Sawashiro is popular but it's not comparable, I'd argue that /a/ loves her more than 'normal' actually.
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>>156447188
>10% at most of the Shinobu fans prefer Kiss-Shot over Shinobu. There is a reason people constantly post Shinobu pictures, figures, dakis, etc.
I agree
>10%
>But this is headcanon
It's because her appearance is constantly in 9 years old form thoroughout most of the story. We don't see her true form often, almost mever actually
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>>156447189
>>156447188
Memes aside, non lolicons (that's the majority of the fans obviously) wouldn't like her if she didn't have her older form, fact.
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>>156447136
>It's not exactly a lolicon series
t. Araragi Koyomi
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>>156447264
>Kana Hanazawa
>by far the most popular VA
>Sawashiro
>not comparable
Get your head out of your ass.
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>>156447275

Fact, you don't need to be sexually attracted to a character to have them be their favorite character. I am not a lolicon and Hachikuji is my second favorite character.
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>>156447275
>fact
Get out and never come back. Go get some help if you actually believe that her fanbase is mostly resolved around her appearance is a freaking novel which has almost no illustrations.

This might be a new word to you, but a characters personality is also important.
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>>156428317
It doesn't get much better than this.
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>>156447344
Hence why I said it's not exactly a lolicon series.
Still it boosts Shinobu's popularity by a huge margin that she's actually a "super sexy woman" in her full power.
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>>156447398

A super sexy woman you didn't get to see in almost the entire series.
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>>156447455
It's enough to know for most normalfags.
That, and the fact that her sexual fanservice happens in her adult (and teenage) form, aside from Nisemono that was already hard for many to stomach, but they could write it off as a one-off thing.
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>>156447398
>"super sexy woman"
Shinobu only ever appeared in her true form three times, Kizu, Kabuki and Owari and correct me if I am wrong, we got only one illustration out of that and no animation since recently. And yet she was the most popular girl in the entire series.

Her older form hardly have her a boost in popularity. So get your fucking facts out of here.
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>>156447561
Yet without it, Shinobu would have much lower popularity, because then she would just be a loli, and that's a no-game for most fans.
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>>156447588
>Yet without it, Shinobu would have much lower popularity
How about this? Instead of talking out of your ass you go count the numbers on fanart for her different forms.
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>>156447588
You are really basing your "facts'' on your ''own'' delusional headcanons in order to convince yourself that you are right.

This is you right?=>>156447213
Fucking hypocrit, you are not proving anything here with your delusions
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>>156447588

Where are you even getting these facts? Do you just hate lolis and only like Kiss-Shot, so you are assuming everyone is like you?
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>>156447695
Don't bother anon, he is retarded
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>>156447724
Nah, I like loli, therefore it's evident to me when a series is just not for lolicons.
>>156447707
>>156447695
There's a reason still why the whole series is brimming with sexual fanservice, and yet nothing of lolis.
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>>156447738
>he BTFO's me
>b-but retarded!
Okay.
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>>156447398
One of her main appeals is that she demonstrates the poise and charisma of a super sexy woman while still in her loli form.
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>>156447781
>the whole series is brimming with sexual fanservice, and yet nothing of lolis.
Is this actually Koyomi trying to shake off the cops or something?
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>>156447781
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>>156447781

>makes out with Shinobu
>bathes with Shinobu
>makes out with Ononoki
>flips her skirt
>grabs at Hachikuji every chance he gets
>not lolicon

I don't even know what to say to you anymore.
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>>156447724
The little touches in the adaption were so great, although I'm still mad they cut Araragi's conversation about retrieving Hanekawa's bra.

>>156447781
You must be a pretty low level lolicon if the Monogataris aren't top tier loli fanservice in your book.
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>>156447781
>>156447813
You are legit retarded
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How can people not think Hitagi is the best girl after the date episode?
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>>156447880
>>156447847
>>156447842
>>156447832
>>156447829
>there's literally no visual sexual fanservcie of the lolis (aside from THAT one bath scene)
>tons of it from any other girls
>B-BUT IT'S LOLICON
Fuck you meme spouter shits.
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>>156447936
>[Mayoi Snail Ch.4]
>Incidentally, that was when I saw Hachikuji Mayoi’s carefree smile for the first time. It was quite charming and it seemed to open my heart. The usual way of describing that type of smile was to say it was like a blooming sunflower, but it was also the type of smile that most people stopped making after getting much older than her.
>“Sigh. Oh, god.”
>That was a close one. If I was a lolicon, I would fallen for her there. I really am glad I’m not a lolicon.
I totally believe you, muraragi-san.
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>>156447936
>Fuck you meme spouter shits.
You look so lively. Did something good happen?
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>>156447927
Senjougahara says she loves Araragi. The other girls show that they love Araragi. I'll take that over the words of a girlfriend that's mostly absent from the story and constantly breaking promises.
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>>156447927
Only thing I liked about that episode was the credits song being played during the end scene.

I'm pretty indifferent to Hitagi herself. The idea that they're "perfect for each other" like some people here insist is a complete meme, but there'd also be less drama and thus less of a story if Koyomi got with a lot of the other girls that he interacts with.
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>>156447927

Which one?
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>>156447936
>he needs explicit sexual imagery in order to get off to loli fanservice
Like I said, you're just a low level lolicon. Of course, that's not to mention the fact that there are also things like the bandage.
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>>156427166
Which one can I efficiently walk home gently?
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>>156448406
Nah, I need them because I want to see them appreciated, yet as it's a non-lolicon work, they get shamed in the same series where all the older girls get more and more sexual fanservice, sometimes borderling hentai.
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>>156448439
You can walk Shinobu home gently forever
But since her home is always where you are, there is no need to walk her anywhere
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>>156448500
Don't you understand, those other girls require more and more sexual fanservice in order for them to maintain even a fraction of the appeal as the fanservice given to the lolis. Well, of course you don't understand, you have neither experience nor taste.
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>>156427166
Okay. I'm getting really sick of all this Snake hate. What about her character makes her so unlikable to you guys?
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>>156448604
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>>156448604
She's a cunt who had a fake crush on a guy she hadn't seen for years and hides her powerlevel.
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>>156448604
She'd be decent in most any other series, but she's competing against a gaggle of god tier girls.
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>>156448604
Probably the part where she decided to murder the main cast in order to make her mental gymnastics easier.
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>>156448500
But we are talking about Shinobu's true form here, which has only appeared for a short time in three novels. That form had not much influence on her popularity.
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>>156448602
Go be more apologetic about how it is actually better that the lolis don't get appreciation, or drawn with effort, please.
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>>156448634
What's disgusting about her?

>>156448665
A "fake crush" and crush are one and the same. She might not have truly loved Araragi, but, if it was just a simple crush. who cares? That's how crushes work. You think you like someone, but you really don't. Hers lasted a lot longer than normal crushes, but that was probably her deluding herself into thinking she actually loved him. And who the fuck doesn't hide their powerlevel?

>>156448681
I'd say Shinobu, Hachikuji and maybe Kanbaru are the only god tier girls. Not really a "gaggle".
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>>156448821
>the lolis don't get appreciation
They get an immense amount of appreciation, your tastes are simply too vulgar to notice actual loli fanservice when it is paraded right in front of your face. Araragi even does his best to clue you in by enjoying all of it himself.
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>>156448897

Nothing, I like snake enough to buy her Medusa GSC fig.
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>>156448908
There's no visual loli fanservice, no matter how memesy you think you are with your contextual shit.
They are drawn lazily and no budget.
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>>156448994
>this entire post
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>>156427630
Who the fuck is Oosugi
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>>156449121
>memes away further
>still can't counter my argument
Okay, idiot crossboarder.
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>>156449184
You have litterly no argument except for:
>My headcanon
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>>156449223
>my headcanon
Are you retarded?
My argument is that there's no visual loli fanservice (aside from THAT ONE bath scene from over half a decade ago), thus is proven by not posting anything.
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>>156449304
>(aside from THAT ONE bath scene from over half a decade ago),
>from THAT ONE bath scene
>THAT ONE
I am not doing this.
>>
>responding to LRD for an hour
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>>156449463
>I can't prove him wrong, but I'll play it cool
Then just fucking shut up.
There was exactly one bath scene with Shinobu, and that's it for loli visual fanservice. If we wanna stretch a comical scene into play, then there was a static Mayoi pantyshot as well.
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>>156449550
You are one sad little autist
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>>156449581
>"can't disprove him, so better call him s-stupid"
Thanks for proving you are only here for shitposting your memefaggotry.
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>>156449694
>memefaggotry.
You really love that word don't you?
>>
>>156449743
At this point, that's all you are doing.
>>
Bat=Loli Bat=Teen Bat=Adult Bat=Tired Bat>Cat=White Cat=Monkey=Snail>Bird=Bee>Crab>Doll>Spooky>Snake>Math
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Stop shitposting and post cute girls.
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>>156449911
The cutest.
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>>156448604
Don't hate her, more like I don't care for her really. She's sort of like Bakemono Kanbaru if her reason for turning into an oddity monster was even pettier and dragged out for way longer and if she just disappeared from the main story after being dealt with.

Hate KanaHana's voice acting though, she always sounds like she's about to cry or something.
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>>156444470
10 gajillion years in Paint bc making your own renders is hard.
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>>156450105
Post girls who are cute and something more than just that.
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>>156450714
Switch A and S, and you're fine.
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I'm watching owari right now and I don't trust Ougi at all. She seems way too decieving and has some sort of ulterior motive. I don't think she's even related to Oshino either. Don't tell me if I'm right or wrong, I want to find out for myself.

Thanks for reading my blog. Bee best girl.
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>>156452453
Incredible fucking deductions Sherlock.
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>>156452453

Ougi has no ulterior motives at all and is completely telling the truth at all times.
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>>156452528
Please no bully. I'm just a retard voicing my thoughts as I watch.
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>mom walks in
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>>156454021
>anon, what's this movie you bought?
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>>156450982
nice art
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>>156454021
So does Araragi's parents know about him toothbrushing Karen and groping Tsukihi? Or kissing them both for that matter?
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>>156457707
I doubt it. They seem to be content to let the kids work things out between themselves. They probably know about their kids all beating the shit out of each other on a regular basis.
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>>156457707
I'm pretty sure the entire Araragi family is incestuous, between the hints dropped in Monogatari and the fact that his other works like Zaregoto feature main characters from incestuous families. He clearly has an interest in it and isn't afraid of putting it in his stories. It would also explain why the family is overall so attractive and talented, but Karen is retarded.
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Snail a cute.
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>>156427166
>Shinobu anywhere other than first
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>Donuts are supplied at a meeting Araragi attends. He surreptitiously passes one to Shinobu under the table.

>While patting Shinobu's head, Araragi messes it up a bit, but her vampire magic/vanity makes it fall back into a perfect hairdo. He spends several minutes unsuccessfully trying to muss up her hair until she gets annoyed.
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>>156461649
>Shinobu sips hot chocolate with whipped cream on top and gets some stuck on her nose. Araragi wipes it off with his finger and Shinobu goes cross-eyed focusing on it. A small laugh from him has her embarrassed and frustrated. When they're bathing that night she pulls out all the stops at being sultry and makes him drop spaghetti as payback.
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>>156427166
Shinobu>all
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>>156464272
Well, yeah. You've got to entertain other factions though or the conversation turns into a dumb circlejerk and dies. Acknowledge the virtues of girls who aren't Shinobu.
>>
>>156464985
I honestly love them all. I can even appreciate the fact that Nadeko is a very well written character, even if I hate her.
>>
>>156465076
There are a few that I dislike, or am at least disappointed in. Namely Hanekawa and Senjougahara. I blame Hanekawa more on Nisio than the character herself. There's just such a disconnect between what Nisio seems to be claiming is happening with her and how she acts. Meanwhile Senjougahara's tough facade has fallen away and we're left with a mildly shitty, insecure human who has a handful of good moments but is ultimately overshadowed by other characters and her own flaws.
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