Instead of repeating timeline only to suffer defeat why didn't

Kyoko is best meguca.

>>156416176
Think of anything. Homura tried it and failed.

>>156416217
FPBP

>>156416176
That would be very hard for her to convince the other megucas, let alone an entire city. She couldn't even convince Mami to stay back and not fight the witch.

>>156416729
How? How is that possible?

>>156416176
How would a 13 year old girl convince an entire city to evacuate their homes in such a short amount of time?

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Do I need to watch movies 1 and 2, or is it ok to skip and go straight to 3? Are 1+2 pure recaps or do they add anything substantial (I consider Evangelion Death a pure recap)

I just never got around to them before.

>>156416176
>he thinks Homu could've evacuated the city as a middle-schooler

>>156417589
>>156417634
Have you seen Hollywood movies? Anything is possible.

>>156416729
Did she try to kidnap madoka and abuse her day and night until her mind broke and she went full Stockholm syndrome?

>>156417589
Sabotage a nuclear reactor so it melts down and risks spreading radiation on the population.

>>156417589
She could stop time and tie up everyone and put them on buses

>>156417633
watch 1 and 2 if you are bored, you don't need them for rebellion

>>156417589
>short amount of time
she can travel back before making her contract, so what's stopping her from traveling years back?

Madoka would have still wished to fix her city after Walpurgis wrecked it anyway.

More importantly: Homura is socially retarded and cannot convince anyone of anything.

>>156417999
She is limited to that month

Is there literally any reason why the megucas couldnt go public?
If you start asking questions like that, the story falls apart.

Her wish was dumb, if she just wished to go back in time to whenever she wanted she wouldn't have to deal with all this bullshit.

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>>156417589
I wonder.

>>156417633
1 and 2 are recaps, but some scenes are reanimated to look better. There are some other changes but they are all very minor and don't affect the story at all. I'd suggest watching the OP, though (it's the same in both movies). It's new and Rebellion uses some imagery from it. Also after the equivalent of ep. 10 in movie 2 it shows the TV OP, but this is altered as well. You might find that interesting but it's not too significant. In short you don't need to watch the first two movies but I'd say watch their OP at least.

>>156418907
Maybe there's a kind of filter in which people try to justify what they see via rational means? Everyone thought Walpurgis was just a really powerful thunderstorm, for one.

>>156418907
Why would they want to?

>>156418907
Some probably did.

>>156417665
She wouldn't do that because she actually loves Madoka and wouldn't want her to leave her family and friends. Even at the end of Rebellion she puts Madoka back with her family.

>>156419588
So she didn't try it then.

>>156416176
Why didnt your mom evacuate her womb?

>>156419542
To convince the people to evacuate in this case.
It's not like it would be hard to convince people you're telling the truth considering the things you could show them.

>>156419774
Just because you can prove you're magic doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to convince like a million people to evacuate a city. Especially given how bad Homura is at convincing anyone of anything.

Because that requires her to think and she is canonically stupid.
she only ever appears to be smart because she has done the same shit over and over.

>>156419829
She could just keep trying until she figures out the right things to say.
Even the retard from Re Zero could resolve a similar situation.

>>156420470
She probably felt her effort was better spent on more direct solutions

>>156419196
Thank you anon, you helped a lot.

>>156420470
She can't even figure out how to that with a small group of people, with or without magic

It would be a total waste of time

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>>156416176
>>156417537
She repeated time 100 times i am sure if it was that easy it would have been tried.
>>156420470
Every time homu repeated time, she added to madoka's potential destiny ultimately making things potently worse for everyone if she ever failed completely. There was even a scene where she realizes this.

also homu is best girl

>>156419829
Just transform in front of everyone.

The one thing we can draw from the series is that Homura is a socially incapable and doesn't think things through.

>>156423845
That didn't work with Madoka or Sayaka. She's probably not capable of pulling that off, and more importantly, she doesn't think she is, so she'd never try.

It's a good question, what would happen if they tried to show off their powers. You only ever see them do it in front of a normal person if it's someone who has been targeted to become a magical girl. It's possible that normal people would not be able to perceive it properly, like how they can't perceive witches. The only people other than magical girls that can perceive witches are also those targeted to become magical girls.

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>>156422945
just realized homura is over 21 mentally with all the repeats. makes it worse she literally cant give up even for a little bit or else. time travel is a bitch.

>>156424011
She can also get Mami and Kyoko to teansform. Anyone would be convinced.

>hey guys I'm a 13 year old girl from the future, there's going to be an enormous storm that's actually a supernatural being and it will kill us all, I politely request that everyone evacuates this major metropolitan area for 24 hours

>>156417999
She can only travel back to the hospital bed, and she can only do it when she's failed to save Madoka.

>>156426761
Proving to the public that magic muskets and rope exist (even if believed) still wouldn't prove the existence of time travel or future sight

>>156416176
The whole idea was to preserve Madoka's way of life
Not to rip her away from it

>>156424217
>Okabe: ??? (primer tier shit)
>Watashi: 5 years (10 semesters, no memory)
>Homura: 8 years
>Bill Murray: 33 years
>Rika: 100 years
>Nagato: 594 years

>>156426890
All Homura has to do is "predict" something that will happen.

>>156418907
In TDS Kamijou learns that Sayaka is a meguca.

I don't think the public knowing about magical girls would matter, at any rate. They could see the girls transform and see their magic and such, but they still can't see witches or QB or anything else having to do with the meguca business. And even if you managed to convince the entire public of megucas' existence, what of it? They've still made their wishes. They still have to hunt witches. They'd just have a media storm on top of that, assuming the media even cared to get on it.

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>>156428593
>In TDS Kamijou learns that Sayaka is a meguca.

thank you Seyiku

>>156416176
Now that'd actually make for an interesting anime.

12 episodes of Homura trying to figure out how to evacuate the city without having to show magic to keep her freedom after that.

>>156427089
Mfw I realize that those 594 years were (mostly) the reason of why she ended up erasing Haruhi from everyone memories

>>156429253
She had a lot of good reasons. Remember Someday in the Rain? Yeah, that episode where everyone do their shit while Yuki is left alone and completely ignored, the whole world passing by her. Even Kyon is too focused on Haruhi to notice she put the cardigan on him.

>>156429253
that's like the whole premise of the movie dude

she was getting glitchy from having so many memories stored

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Is Madoka a degenerate lesbian like Homura?

>>156416176
>why didn't Homu evacuate the city?
>hello mister mayor, i might look like a teenage girl but actually i'm a time traveling magic user in contact with aliens
>please evacuate Mitakihara because big bad magical being that normal people can't perceive will appear and do bad things
>and she could have saved Madoka from making a contract with kyuubey.
For how long?
Are you suggesting that single WN appearance is the only reason that could make Madoka agree to a contract?

I'm going to be that guy and ask if even Ramiel's Hyper Mega Angel Death Laser could take down Waluigi Night.

>>156429570
No, she's just a normal lesbian.

>>156429866
I feel like the witches are the kind of enemies that transcend normal brute force power boundaries, they're above normal creatures. Then again, so are the angels, so who knows.

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>>156417665
Yeah she tried that already. It was pretty hot.

>>156430510
Source please? Couldn't find it through normal methods.

>>156430596
(Maitake) Debikano. It's non-h.

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>>156430699
Thanks

>>156430849
Incubators are assholes.

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>>156431409
depends on your point of view

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>>156431409
no bully Coobie...!

>>156431795
mami is perfection
precisely because she's far from perfect

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>>156431876

>>156431876
>spoiler
Come on man, she's not horrible.

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>>156431409
This. Kyubey is only good for BBQB.

>>156429304
Yeah, I remember that episode you're talking about but I think that that It's nothing when you compare with the 594 years she had to repeat the same month

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>>156432105
Fire up the grill

>>156416176
Because that wouldn't stop Walpurgis. It'd just move from once place to the next, fucking shit up.

Better to stop it then and there than risk pointless collateral.

>>156432155
Realistically, yes, 600 years of summer would break a person more than anything else you could inflict on them. But the point of the movie was more along the lines of "we neglected Nagato so much she never developed a sense of self" than "loops gave our robot feelings".

>>156416176
How is a teenage girl going to get a city evacuated?

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>>156432192
Kyouko is the grill. Kyouko is best grill.

Homura is mentally 21, can she consent?

Didn't read whole thread, but Walpurgis is a witch. Witches are basically just predators, they're mobile and they seek out and affect humans. If all the people moved from the city, the witches would just go with them.

>>156432578
>Walpurgis is a witch
who is she exactly? was that ever covered?

I mean who was she prior to being a witch?

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>>156417665
>>156430510
>>156432464
What we can all agree is Kyoko is a necrophilia, isn't it?

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>Sayaka is on the bed
What do you want to do next?

>>156432608
It wasn't covered in the anime. There does seem to be a bunch of extra Madoka lore in stuff like spinoff manga and art/production books, but I haven't really looked into it myself. You might find something out if you do.

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Don't you think Kyoko tried inserting her soul gem into Sayaka's womb for resurrection or other reasons?

>>156432524
She wouldn't give consent to us mere mortals anyway

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>>156432872
Prepare a bath and change of clothes for her so she can get ready for a good night's rest.

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>>156433385
Am I the only one who thinks dat Sayaka's arms are funny?

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>>156433545

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>>156433565

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>>156433583
Is there someone who can make the WebM?

>>156433545
>>156433565
>>156433583
>>156433595
That's fucking hilarious in a morbid kind of way.

>>156430510

>"I can't take this anymore. I'm just going to fuck her senseless forever."

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Why does she look so fucking smug all the time?

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Reminder

>>156416729
Did she learn to become a master of robotics, Engineer, propulsion/electronics/laser technology and then extrapolate on those skills to build a power suit?
No. No she fucking didn't.

>>156435048
Pretty sure he meant funny as in haha.

>>156435200
99% sure it happened in Homura Tamura,

>>156431926

Shouldn't that be more like her head staying in the noose?

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>>156435137
Head problems

>>156424217
man i just love this picture

>>156435459
Not my proudest boner

>>156433545
Yeah, they're quite Humerus

>>156435459
>>156435501
That's not official art.
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=27663339

Now fuck off.

>>156416176
>Instead of repeating timeline only to suffer defeat
She actually won, the sole winner actually even QB lost

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>>156435584
Carlos, meet Hitummy.

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>>156435501
>dog of ACK
It's Apple. Also, he really loves the chair, though.

>>156435584
Homurus? Homoras?

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>>156435744
What do you think of the scene?

>>156435744
How strong is Hitomi?

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>>156435744
see >>156435917
....

>>156436074
Enough to make Sayaka vomit with a belly punch or two.

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>>156436074
One punch to the gut and it is lights out for anyone.

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>>156436163
(´；ω；｀)

>>156436164
Kill yourself.

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I like Mami-san.

>>156436226

She gives nice head.

>>156436437

kys

>>156416176
Because Madoka's plot doesn't work at all if Homura doesn't make the worst and most self-defeating decisions possible at every possible opportunity. There's a certain point where it goes beyond Homura being a dumbass and into contrivance.

Homura could dismantle Madoka's martyr complex in ten seconds if she said "you'll turn into a witch that will destroy the world".

>>156436567
>Homura could dismantle Madoka's martyr complex in ten seconds if she said "you'll turn into a witch that will destroy the world".

>Implying Madoka will believe her
>Implying Kyubey wont easily convince Mami that Homura is lying
>Implying Sayaka wont go full retard
It's like you didn't even watch the show.

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>oil drums on suicide watch

Oh my god I'm gonna cum

>>156436688

Hold on anon, we still have some dank memes.

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>>156436567
Homura tries to warn them during Ep. 10 but no one believes her.

>>156436765
Or they go on a murderous rampage once they find out for themselves

>>156436765
Holy fucking shit, stuff like this is why I hate Sayaka. It's such a bitchy response to the answer to such an obvious question: what happens when soul gems fully blacken?

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>>156416176
>Unable to do anything but watch Madoka die
>Realize you can make a wish so you can go back and save her
>Able to defeat Walpurgisnacht in timeline 2
>Madoka witches out
>Able to reveal the secret of the soul gem
>Realize all of your 'allies' are completely fucking useless and psychopathic
>Able to convince Madoka not to contract
>Kyubey contracts her by using you getting your ass kicked and failing to save the city as a reason to contract
>Able to shoulder the pain of fighting eternally to try to save Madoka
>Realize your actions are making things progressively worse

There is not a single thing Homura can do because it can be assumed any time she tried something new, the narrative/Urobuchi would just cook something up to derail her plan. Rebellion is as successful as she can possibly be. Hell, there were negative casualties in that movie.

>>156437031
She had a lot invested in her new life and Kyubey telling the truth, most people couldn't just casually throw that away on random suggestions from strangers

>>156437329

>negative casualties

So babies?

>>156416176

Why is everyone missing the big point?

Walpurgis has to be defeated. If you leave it alone, it won't stop until the world is dead.

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>>156424217
>homura is over 21 mentally
Yeah sure

>>156437746
She is actually 24ish stuck in a 14 year old body. All the times she has repeated the month added up to around 10 years.

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>>156436074
Strong enough for deicide

>>156437827
I meant that she's womanchild

>>156437637
>Walpurgis has to be defeated. If you leave it alone, it won't stop until the world is dead.

>Everyone is missing the point
>Proceeds to miss the point
There are other magical girls. Madoka will contract regardless of anything Homura does and Walpurgisnacht is just a metaphor for fate itself.

>>156437520
Just because there's a rationale doesn't make Sayaka less of a fucking idiot. Denying the truth in front of you is worse than being too stupid to see it.

>>156438052
Stupid witch.

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If homu had just told Mami about what was going on with the time loops and shit and they actually worked together to try to stop walpurgis they probably could have succeeded.
Why didn't she do this?

>>156439689
If Homu actually managed to convince Mami, Mami would probably just straight up kill all of the main cast immediately.

>>156439689
>>156439749
Sayaka didn't believe her in earlier timelines too.

>>156429570
In Madoka's universe, it is heterosexuals that are seen as the degenerates

KÄSE! KÄSE! WO IST DIE KÄSE?

Do we know how Walpurgis looked before she became upside down witch?

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>>156440243
>madokas parents are degenerates

>>156441045
>Madoka would not be born if it weren't for heterosexuals
Homosexualfags BTFO

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>>156439689
>Mami too headstrong
>Homura too obsessed with Madoka
Pick both

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Homura reallt fails at time travel.

Uro didnt confirm if she could bring items from other timelines, but if we assume she could, taking pictures or have the other girls write notes with their signature of something would be more than enough to convince everyone of everything.

Now that i think about it, the problem is Homura's personality.
If she wasnt an edgy cunt, she could have kept the gang united as shown in the previous timelines.

Also, she keeps letting Sayaka die, even when Homura could have her help fight walpurgis or force her to wish for madoka to be unable to become a magical girl or anything she wants.

Or hell, remember the rooftop in the beggining of the series? Spoil everything.
"You might not believe me, but in two days witch will appear in X place"

Now, if Mami freaks out in case Homura somehow doesnt stop sayaka from going witch, she could use time stop to incapacitate pre-rebellion mami or at least talk to her beforehand and tell the rest to keep an eye on her before she loses her head.

Some anons above say revealing her powers would be useless.
I say otherwise.
Proving her powers is no hard task. Just transform, time stop around, show people how you can take a bazooka (or something less dangerous) out of your little shiled thingy and break physics.
The worst that could happen is the government to try to experiement on ya.

Also, it is shown in the psp games that it is potentially possible for Sayaka/Kyoko/Mami and Homura to eat walpurgis in the best end.

There is literally no excuse for her failing with time travel and time stop.
Maybe she is just dumb.

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>>156443257
*really *beat *many others

>>156443257
Have you possibly considered the notion that not every single sentence needs to be its own double-spaced paragraph?

>>156439689
>>156443257
The problem is that Mami is literally a psychopath and would most likely freak out and kill the other characters upon being told the truth

>>156443448
Yeah sorry.

Typed too fast.
>>156443484
With time stop, Homura could incapacitate pre-rebellion Mami.
Or if she other girls already believe in her after she proves she knows about the future, Homura might have been able to convince everyone to watch out for Mami.
Also, she can stop her from learning the truth by stopping Sayaka from going witch.

>>156436610
>Madoka wishes to not become a witch
What now Mr. Smart Guy, because that's almost literally what happened at the end of the show and it got Homura BTFO

>>156443684
>pre rebellion Mami
I assumed there was no difference between her in the movie and the series as she didn't get any fancy god powers like mado or sayaka

>>156443684
Homura loses against Mami, Mami prep times until she learns what Homura is capable of and then beats her ass

>>156443901
In the movie, Mami alrrady knew Homura could stop time by working with her.

So, it depends if Mami knows how to counter Homura while she goes on her murderous rampage.
And that also depends if Homura either averted or prevented her discovering mahous turn into majous or telling the rest of the girls what would happen when Mami does learn the truth.
And this implies Homura already proved that she knows of the future by spoiling or predicting a moment not even sayaka can deny.

>poster claims that there is a plot hole in Madoka
>"fixes" it by suggesting something incredibly fucking retarded that would never work
Why is this allowed?

>>156443988
If Mami goes mad by learning mahous turn into majous, what prep time would she have.

Prep Mami > Normal Homu > No Prep Mami

Also, if Homura wasnt an idiot and already knew what would happen, she could also have prep to either kill Mami beforehand or prevent her from learning the truth in the first place.

Or any of the verious alternatives she could have taken
Like telling Kyoko and have be ready to help kill/knock out Mami.

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>>156443257
It's a full reset, can't bring random stuff from other time lines.

The simplified answer to the rest is just that she's given up on everything except Madoka. Maybe she did try some stuff in other time lines. Maybe it wasn't worth it.

>>156444834

>She starts pulling out Mami head

You know where this is going.

>>156444053
Are you refering to me?
>>156444834
>>156444922
She can still spoil everything with her experience from past timelines.

>>156432608
>>156432954
leading theory seems to be that walpurgis is some kind of agglomeration of witches

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>>156435158

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>>156440407
> Charlotte asking about cheese in Rebellion

>>156443257
>she keeps letting Sayaka die
Literally no one can prevent this. Sayaka is too weak and too bullheaded in her morality.
>"You might not believe me, but in two days witch will appear in X place"
Events don't happen exactly the same between timelines, there are minor differences.
>incapacitate Mami
Which would cause her to lose everyone's trust.
>least talk to her beforehand
Requires gaining Mami's trust.
>Proving her powers is no hard task
Time stop doesn't prove time reversal. Time reversal does not prove you're a good guy.

that scene after the credits , wheres shes beating up an incubator , and then leans over the edge

what did that mean

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>>156446122
she realised she gave Shaft an excuse for a sequel

>>156446122
A new era has dawned where the incubators are pawns to Homura. With the chair, she appears to be leaning as if into someone who isn't there. The falling over could be anything, moving from area to area, or some metaphor shit like everything else

>>156446122
Metaphorical suicide because she hates herself and she's removed the person who supports her from her life.

>>156446122
Kyubey is her bitch. As for falling, sequel.

>>156447458
This is the greatest. Kyuubey is a piece of shit.

>>156437031
It's a valid question though, the whole setup doesn't make any sense without knowing QB's motivation. And of course, at that point in time Homura didn't KNOW QB's motivation, so she couldn't answer it.

>>156445908
Proving you are legit from the future does give your word a lot of weigh.

Also, certain events like Sayaka going meguca for keisuke and Mami dying to charlotte if she goes solo.

>>156417916
You're talking about an entire city's population anon.

Did they mention in which city Meguca's events happened? So for example if it was Tokyo, then she has to evacuate some 9 MILLION PEOPLE, one by one.

So if it hypothetically takes 1 minute to transport each person to a buss, you need 9 MILLION MINUTES. That's 150,000 hours, or 6,250 days, or about 17 years.

So it takes her 17 or so years to evacuate the city on her own, and that's just one attempt.

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>>156450761
Mitakihara, it's not a real city
Clearly supposed to be pretty big though

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>>156424217
>>156427089
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>>156437827
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/156301977/#156322271

>>156439548
>Homuhomu
>called another person lesbo
That's why HomuKyo is a cool pairing.

>>156441045
Why did you use my favorite pic? Are you interested in me?

>>156447458
Do you expect Kyoko to become Madoka's bitch in the sequel? Yeah, I meant Kyoko would go to meet LoC.

>>156435158
>Madoka did wrong things to Homura
Never seen that happen.