What would happen is asuka had awaken up that scene?

She'd look like she does at the end and say "disgusting."

>>156387830
baka shinji

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>>156387830
>not the gif

>>156387830
She wouldn't even notice the baby batter. She'd be clawing at him in a blood frenzy anyway, though, thanks to the physical and mental torture she suffered at the hands of the enemy Evangelions and the lingering, unsolved resentment she has toward him for consistently outperforming him.

>>156387830
>and people say Shinji is gay

Before or after he cums?

>>156387906
outperforming her in combat*

Damn, I fucked up toward the end.

>>156387830
She'd question who spilled mayo on her right hand.

>>156387944
>Mayo

I don't know how to tell you this but, [spoilee]it's a milkshake

>>156387861
Tsun = "kimochi warui"
Dere = she actually got off on it because Asuka is fucked up like that

>>156388129
>Asuka
>Tsundere

She is literally begging for Kaji's dick

>>156387906
>>156387830

At this point of the series, where she just got almost killed my shinji, attempted suicide, to wake up to him using her body as a object, the thing she hates the most?

She would probably say nothing, just descending into depression and apathy. If her self hate was enough, she might ask shinji to rape her, or for him to finish the job and strangle her dead this time.

>>156387830
who gets his own hand that messy? i have fapped since i was 13 and never got my hand that dirty, he seriously needs to improve his fapping technique

>>156387830

The bigger question I don't understand is why isn't there immense security around the children 24/7.

Especially during this scene.

>>156387830
>implying Asuka didn't know Shinji fapped to her

>>156388286

Someone probably was watching over the camera. Later we get to see Misato checking on asuka

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>>156388217
>got almost killed my shinji

You're pretty much right though

>>156388291

She knows, but the situation on the end of the movie is different from the start. Her first reaction probably would be the same though.

>>156388399
>>got almost killed my shinji
I assume the first choking scene, the one with the coffee spilling, is a flashback, not a instrumentality induced illusion.
Happened after shinji telling her Kaji died and was the very last straw for her. She then ran away from home and attempted suicide.

>>156388399

Oh, i re-read, "my" instead of "by" was me being retarded. Ops

>>156388550
It's clearly not a flashback

Asuka is in the hospital because Nerv employees found her in a bath waiting to die. That was her suicide attempt. That Instramentality thing is very unclear

Since it's technically before 3rd Impact I see it as Shinji's imagining of Asuka and how people don't like him

And then when Asuka is telling at him while it seems like they're having sex could probably be the real thing, but it's clearly not a flashback

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>>156387830
> What would happen is asuka had awaken up that scene?
Basically what happened in the movie since she was aware of what he did, she just didn't give a fuck. She was catatonic, not in a coma.

>>156388286
They're already in a secure facility in a specialty hospital set for them, I don't think they felt anything beyond basic medical observation and the preinstalled surveilance was necessary. They can put a camera on her whenever they feel it necessary.

>>156388835
I dont think the wording "clearly" is justified in this case. It isnt "crazy" like the 3 girls talking to him in the train about his sexuality, it looks much more grounded in reality than his others illusions. It is just the 2 of them and it fits (clothing and coffee spilling) in the scene from chapter 24 where they talk about kaji.

My particular view of situation is:
>Shinji tells asuka about kaji death
>Asuka breaks down
>Something happens. Maybe Shinji tries to confort her.
>She knows shinji only doing that not for her, but for himself not feel alone and she is his last "friend".
>She calls him out on that
>He has a meltdown and chokes her
>Snaps back at the last moment
>She runs away in despair
>Week later she is found attempting suicide.
I dont think it is that hard to consider it at least a possibility.

Also you talked about their "sex scene". While i particularly dont believe on it, i once read a theory that fits mine, from someone who believe they had sex before all that:
>Asuka uses her last option to make anyone show some "feeling" for her and gets shinji to fuck pretty much the same way she kissed him.
>He doesnt really react or show affection, just like the kiss scene.
>We get the exchange we see in the movie
>She breaks down and start ranting about kaji.
>Cue shinji telling her kaji is dead.
Let me say again i dont particularly this last part, but just throwing it there. I dont think Eva, especially EoE, has hard truths for you to believe, just theories you like the most.

>>156389265
I don't feel like there's sufficient evidence to come to a conclusion

>>156389265
She was being sarcastic in this scene you autist
She called him disgusting for doing that

>>156389365
I'm inclined to believe the kitchen scene is an actual flashback. Shinji saw Misato crying, didn't know what to do 'I'm still a child' and all that, the morning after he sees Asuka and tells her the situation hoping to get help from her but being dumb enough to not realize that those news are also a gut punch for her since she really had a thing for kaji. so now he has two women he needs to console and like a child he's asking for help from one of them instead.

>>156389370
she flat out says she knows about his jerking of to her.
>>156389373
She might be disgusted but was in a mental place she didn't care anyway.

>>156389651
She said it was disgusting, so I'm pretty sure she did care.

>>156389683
not enough to do anything about it. Watch Love & Pop, for a very different reason but the girl there also was disgusted but let it happen anyway.

Third impact inside her vagoo

>>156389651
Which line?

>>156389787
I did watch Love & Pop. I also read the book.
The girl was so overcome with shock that she didn't even realize or process what was happening until the end of it.
Completely different situation.

>>156389803
>I know all about your little jerk-off fantasies about me. Go ahead, and do it like you always do... I'll even stand here and watch.

>>156389803
>>156389862

Also worth noting, this was after instrumentality really started. Some people diverge about how "connected" people are inside the instrumentality, but i find completely possible for someone with a strong relationship with shinji (be it love or hate) to see parts of his memories, masturbation scene included.

>>156389862
http://eva-armageddon.com/Scripts/EOE2.html

I'm not seeing it in here, is that a dubism or something

>>156389986
>Asuka: Idiot. I know. I know what you've done to me. Do it yourself, I'll just watch from here. You... If you can't be mine, then I don't need you!

Dont really know the original jap scene if she says any term that REALLY implies in masturbation, or just this ambiguous "i know what you did message", although there arent many things that fit in this context.

>>156389986
That translation has it as
>Idiot. I know. I know what you've done to me. Do it yourself, I'll just watch from here. You... If you can't be mine, then I don't need you!

>>156389985
It's possible she learned about it from instrumentality, but the fact is she knows.
>>156390071
I've read she uses a term that means 'sidedish' which has the inuendo of being 'masturbation material'.

>>156390071
>>156390112
The Jap never implies it in that line, but later she says: I know you only see me as a side dish.
Side dish in Japanese being just something you masturbate to, like a pornstar. Not something you care about. It's a really insulting term.

Not sure why the dub added stuff that wasn't in the original.

>>156390159
Huh that does change my opinion on this scene a lot

I guess some culture-isms won't always carry over

There's also this quote
>'Miyamura, just imagine you are sleeping in your bed and a stranger sneaks into your room. He can rape you anytime as you are asleep but he doesn't. Instead, he masturbates looking at you, when you wake up and know what he did to you. What do you think you would say?'
Regardles of when and how she learned it Asuka knows what Shinji did.

>I created a silly thread
>Its been the best Eva thread in months so far
Thanks everyone

>>156390159
The dub and sub Manga entertainment did of EoE is filled with mistranslations, added bullshit and contradictions.
Never use it as a credible source.

>>156390284
Shinji is best girl

>>156390284
one of my favorite Eva threads ever was started with Asuka going "Chance"

Halfway through the thread someone asked what if OP just wanted shitty Engrish.

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>>156390274
>>156390305
>>156390071

Besides what she says, there is what we are shown. When she says that we get to see the masturbation scene filtered again, so there is really no doubt about what it was referring.

>>156390355

I remember the scene where a bunch of asuka "doppelgangers" are saying "chance" in the mind rape scene, but when does she says it the first time? I cant remember.

>>156390445
No doubt it refers to the masturbation, no one is arguing against that, but the tone and implication of her words is a lot different when comparing the two translations.

dub/localizations adding and mistranslating shit is a big pet peeve of mine, sorry for being autistic about it.

>>156390445
Yeah, there's not much of an argument to be made otherwise.

>>156390546
In her intro episode, when she sees her chance to piltot and show off.

>>156390305
>Manga

Don't even get me fucking started on that

>>156390547
So to be clear, what do you think are the very different implications of the two translations because for me I see them as just the same thing worded differently.

>>156390608
Not him but:
>Fantasies =/= What you did
It seens like shinji already had this kind of though, instead of being very spontaneous occurrence when he seen her breast.
>Like you always do
Feels wrong, and actually dont make much sense, unless shinji used to jerk off to asuka before that scene.

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>>156387830
In Instrumentality, since everyone's being was formed into one along with their consciouses, does that mean Asuka saw all of Shinji's troubles and remembered them after being revived? That whole bit is just confusing to me

>>156387830
So where did Shinji wipe his hand anyway?

>>156388251
He probably cupped his hand in front of his dick to not get any on Asuka

>>156390771
on her panties.

>>156390763
Thats debatable, it is at least a possibility. I think yes, at least some parts of it. Not what she was referencing by "how disgusting" though. Both she and shinji have seen some fucked up shit and need to sit down and process everything down.

>>156390752
You have a point, the 'jerk off fantasies about me' translation makes it seem like it's been an ongoing occurrence (the masturbation not the assault) while the 'what you've done to me' it's more specific about what he did in the hospital. but at the same time it's not like she doesn't know he's a teenage guy, she knows he tried to kiss her in her sleep. So I think it's a bit of both, she generally knows he probably jerks off to her, but that line it's more about what he did that day.

>>156390763
I think they do. It's part of the theme of the ending, they're back to being closed off individuals but they've have had insight into who each other are, so maybe, just maybe that would lead them into a better path though it's no guarantee.

>>156390600

Is it that bad? I never read it, and from what /a/ talks about, never will. Sakamoto's art seens good though.

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>>156387861
Didn't she say on the train that she wanted him to masturbate in front of her again? She even thrust her hips into his face.

>>156391577
>She even thrust her hips into his face.
those are her boobs.

>>156391602
look where the dress of her uniform is, she crossed her legs against him

Reminder that Shinji is canonically heterosexual. He only ever had sexual fantasies about women.

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>>156392083
>Asuka
>female

>>156393030
nice memes

It's been a while since I've watched it but I thought she was at least partially conscious while it happened, was she in a medically induced coma or something?

>>156393806
>was she in a medically induced coma or something?
Very probably, or at least sedated
She dont react at all to shinji shaking her and calling her name

>>156387830
Given how emotionally fucked up she was by that point, she probably would have just lain there in silence.

>>156389365
>>156389608

I fucking love the kitchen scene. Over its length, it covers pretty much every single mental problem shinji and asuka have

>>156392083
Nigga I Hardcore hate Karl and I think he was a manipulative bad guy, but Shinji would go down on anyone that's nice to him even if he prefers women.

>>156394851
>Shinji would go down on anyone that's nice to him even if he prefers women.
Agreed

>Nigga I Hardcore hate Karl and I think he was a manipulative bad guy
Disagreed. I think kaworu is neutral towards good, a little crazy and unintuitive, but not a bad guy. He just has a weird understanding of humanity, even though he admires it.

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>>156394851
Karl is Manga Kaworu, who is basically a huge autist.

Anime Kaworu has good intentions, but he's incredibly naive and kinda a suicidal psychopath.

>>156394851
I don't know why people keep saying this.
Toji and Kensuke were nice to him and he never acted that way with them.
Also whenever the women made passes at him he always rejected them.
With Kaworu he acted like a horny schoolgirl as soon as he met him.

Makes no sense honestly, I guess Anno was just feeling like a homo fag when he made that ep.

>>156395027

See >>156394971
We might not see it properly portrait, but kaworu is supposed to be "perfect", all-understanding, all-loving.

>>156395197
I know, but Kaworu was kind of rude to Shinji the entire episode.
He told him to be aware of his position and riddled off his flaws like a shopping list.
And Shinji kept blushing all the way through it.

So I don't understand how people say he only acted that way because Kaworu was being nice to him. He wasn't at all.
Shinji was blushing at him since the moment he first laid eyes on him, he didn't even care if Kaworu was being a dick or betrayed him.

>>156390355
ayy I remember it, it was when Annoposter started his great ramble explaining everything, I started appreciating Eva much more after it

>>156387830
Literally nothing would change, she wasn't talking at that point anyway and the next time they interact after that they're both Tang and she knows everything about it anyways.

>>156395263
>>156390355

Any link, or very specific wording you can remember that is easy to search on the archives? Also roughly when was it?

ANTA BAKA ?

>>156391577
she was clearly mocking him

>>156395395
Are you implying Asuka has brain power for sarcasm and banter? Kaworu once told her she's dumb as rocks. Asuka thinks with her hormones.

>>156395480
>Kaworu once told her she's dumb as rocks.

That isnt exactly canon, you know...

>>156395393
>T.N.: "Anta Baka" means "I love you"

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>>156387830
Just imagine Anno trying to explain a scene where a young boy masturbates to a comatose young girl and showing his sperm on camera is a necessary scene to portrait in a movie.
And getting away with it.

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>>156395480
I think it's hilarious how Asuka is always shittalking everyone else, but once it's thrown her way she runs away crying with her tail between her legs

>>156387830
>>156395552
Why didnt shinji just did the proper job and raped her? Its not like he knew any better about the instrumentality.

>>156395521
Even if it isn't, she lacks critical thinking for social situations. Since when has Asuka displayed sarcasm when that's more of Rei's forte?

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>>156395596
What would he rape her with?

>>156395587
>lacking evidence
Yeah, sure, Kaworu, you totally aren't a homo, confessing to a guy, touching hands, sleeping together. All those are just bro bonding activities, amirite?

>>156395552
NGE might have had it's budgetary problems late in the production but by the end of it, it was a fucking phenomenon. They knew they had carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they wanted evidenced by the fact this was the fucking trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HALL5-PZu4

>>156395605
Name one instance in the show where Rei was sarcastic.

>>156395596
Given how much of a betafag he had been up till that point, that would be rather out of character

>>156388205
So? They don't have to hate everyone.

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>>156395618
Kaworu is straight.
Shinji was the only one acting homo in that episode.

>>156395605
>Rei
>sarcasm
>humor in any form
What
>>156395623
That shit still gives me nightmares

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>>156395587
Asuka is a extremelly fragile and deeply depressed character. She lives with a facade of "look how im cool and bold".

Change "australian" from pic related to "asuka"

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>>156395643
Kaworu is gay and wants to be with Shinji, that's why he's following his ass in Rebuild

>>156395480
she mocks Shinji routinely throughout the entire series anon, this wouldn't be a break from her character. it's also in Shinji's mind, so it's merely his internal projection of her, so obviously he's going to make it so that he hates him and wants to just shit on him.

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>>156395663
In other words she's a cunt who tries to play the woman card as soon as things don't go her way.
She needs a good smack in the face.

>>156395663
She's just a girl with family issues pushed to fight against monsters despite being barely a kid.
She doesn't need a hug, she needs to be adopted, dragged screaming out of that fucking EVA and enrolled to a real school where she can have a real life away from blood and death.

>>156395652
Isn't Rei the original kuudere? I know its been a while since I watched NGE but I remember some deadpan moments with her.

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>>156395674
He's not gay.
He hasn't done a single thing in canon that can be construed as gay.

He's following him around in Rebuild because he hates him and wants to make him suffer.

>>156395643
Well, kaworu did end up stuck together with rei, whether he wants or not.

>>156395714
She spawned lots of kuuderes, yes. Despite her being a schizophrenic who doesn't understand what she must feel with a death drive and no self-value, people find her cute.

>>156395714
Made it popular ? Possibly.
Original ? Nope, together with tsundere it is one of the oldest archetypes around.

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>>156395718
He obviously wants it.
In EoE, Kaworu technically fucked Rei, Asuka, Asuka's mom, AND Yui.

He's the straightest Eva character.

>>156395652
A couple of her lines could possibly if you squint really hard be construed as very dry banter.
'Don't show up looking like that'
'I'll do it if I'm ordered to'

>>156395395
Except that she wasn't

Asuka wants shinji but she resents that she is fundamentally less than every other girls fom the series.

If you truly love Asuka you will love her for her strengths and not for her faults and you should understand this.
But no you faggots only love her because she is broken and you need a broken person to make yourself feel whole.

If you were a true Asuka fan then you would only encourage reifags to say that rei is best girl, because as all true Asuka fans know rei is "greater" than Asuka but Asuka is more "deserving of love"

Tl;Dr Asuka will resent you if you say she's better than rei but I still love her

>>156395757
You've lost me

>>156395706

Its usually not discussed, because it was self defense, but asuka shows absolutely no restraints in killing human soldiers by the dozen in EoE. I think its worth talking about, thats how screwed up she is already inside. Soldiers do kill, but not while singing with the massive smile she had during that scene

>>156395717
Get out of my thread you dumb 3DPD
>>156395757
Nice falseflag

>>156395751
In EoE everyone technically fucked everyone. Except Gendo, he just got fucked aside from everyone else.

>>156395784
Fucking in instrumentality is cheating and doesn't count.
Kaworu did it outside in reality.
He's a pussy slayer.

>>156395800
Boypussy slayer*
He's only interested in Japanese boys with small penises

>>156395800
When did he fuck Rei, Asuka, Kyoko, and Yui then?

>>156390905
I think it's more about Asuka assuming it out of ego; that she's definitely an object of attraction and he's a little bitch for never making a move. I mean she's probably not wrong, but that's how I interpreted it.

>>156387830
Is that snow? What the fuck is it?

>>156395757
>Asuka wants shinji
Not really, she just someone nearby to keep her company and to vent her stress on, anyone could've played the part as long as he was as much as a wimp as Shinji, in fact she does the same to Rei.
Shinji on the other side just loves to feel miserable and to blame the world around him for his failures, so he likes having Asuka around for him to blame.
The by-the-book example of a codependent couple.

>create a masterpiece with sexual symbolism to awake deeper parts of human brain
>everybody is just screaming about fucking
EoE was a mistake

>>156395800

The kaworu dummy plugs were rapey and abused asuka (and her mom) after she was down.
They then got merged into rei face, but i think it counts as intrumentality already.
But when the fuck he touched yui? They only lifted 01 and performed the ritual.

>>156395818
Obviously not.
He got so tired of being around Shinji's faggot ass that he killed himself.

>>156395824
He became one with Rei, Fuyutsuki called it their forbidden union.
He gangraped Kyoko during MP fight, Asuka feels it due to sync rate.
He speared Yui during the lance scene, Shinji feels it due to sync rate.

That's 5 pussies he fucked all in one movie.

>>156395860
This.
I remember Asuka is fucking Toji in the alternate universe, too.

>>156387830
She's feeling low enough to accept being violated at her most vulnerable. She'd be grossed out that he's also lowering himself and being weak at her and that he's only violating her that far, too coward to touch her the way he's thinking even during deliberate transgression.

>>156395829
Sure, ego plays a role, but she also does know for a fact that he tried to kiss her. She probably would know more stuff like that and probably would even enjoy knowing about it. but the assault would be a line too far.

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>>156395868
I think he's talking about this scene

>>156395877
>He speared Yui during the lance scene, Shinji feels it due to sync rate.
Rei/Lilith is the one who did that. The MPs/him were the recepient.

>>156395860
Thats why, given the "time to fucking improve yourselves" feeling of the ending, and their situation, i like to pair those 2. Its a dysfunctional couple. Probably wont work, but the idea of trying and even succeding should do wonders for their mental health. Even if the break up later.

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>>156395932
No, it says in the script Adam took over during that scene

>>156395674
I never saw him as strictly gay. His character was more about love, in all forms, for Shinji and humanity in general.

But then again, trying to understand the metaphysical nature of this Christ figure is just as difficult as the actual Christ.

>>156395950
And then lilith takes back the lead once shinji's calm.

>>156395938
That's like telling a wife-beater to just stick with the wife and see if it gets better

>>156395966
>>156395950

Welp, i just started liking this very weird "take the lead" relationship betwhen them 2

>>156395285
>Rei's tits that big

Rei fags everyone

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>>156395966
But the vagina was opened in reaction to Kaworu
Yui ain't no lesbo.

>>156395996
Kaworu x Rei is canon since they fucked

>>156395980
To be fair, most wifebeaters dont go through what shinji went through.
If you refuse to believe in change, i guess thhe series has failed you.

>>156395938
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way, these kind of relationships only feed on each other flaws and make them worse.
It's like some romantic story about a woman with androphobia due to rape, marrying the only man she feels comfortable having around who keeps her safe from the entire world.
Sure it might look sweet and romantic, but what is actually happening is that you have a mentally ill woman never getting help locked up in her house, and a scumbag of a man playing the white knight feeding off her disability instead of actually helping her getting over it.
Dependant relationships are one of the most miserable things on earth and should be avoided at all costs, if you want to help someone you HELP, you don't fuel their problems.

>>156395860
She very clearly has feelings for him. They're not pure or noble, but it never is in the real world is it? It was only natural she'd develop feelings for him over time.

>>156396018
There's change, and then there's outright abuse.

>>156396026
Her voice actor said she didn't

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>>156395996
Gods make for very sexy couples, just ask the greeks

>>156395893
I remember she finds cum in her mouth while brushing her teeth and the whole sequence is how used and unfulfilled she's feeling about everything in her life even though it's exactly what was advertised to her.

>>156396053
Is it Anno in a wig? No? Then I don't fucking care.

>>156396024
I agree with this anon

>>156396061
>>156395893
What

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>>156396059
I always see stories about Adam x Eve, but never about Adam x Lilith, so it was a refreshing change.

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>>156396095
Aren't they siblings? Is this technically god incest?

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>>156396093
Indeed. Such unexplored potential, thank god Eva did it.

>>156396070
>No ?
Or was he ?

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>>156396105
Yes but at the same time not really, primordial being hookups are complicated

>>156396078
The live action sequence from EoE, Asuka is dating Toji and they're fucking like rabbits every night.

>>156396093
>Eve
>Eva
>Yui basically gives birth to a reborn human race through her monstrous cyborg, soul collecting body.
Bravo

>>156396130
I completely do not remember this.

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>>156396124
>dun dun dun!
Don't matter, author's dead, all that matters is what's on the text.

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>>156396127
I want to see a comedic spinoff about these two autists living together and doing ayy lmao stuff.

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>>156396078
https://youtu.be/cwBs3VsNfdY?t=14s

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>>156396154
Enough with the comedic Eva spinoffs. I want to see a epic dramatic prequel about the end of the first ancestral race, their past relationship and the events that led them to crash on the same planet.

>>156394851
How could anyone hate Karl? Do you like bullying kittens on the street? What's wrong with you?

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>>156396309
Karl is only good for memes,
Animeworu is my nigga.

>>156387830
Would probably stare blankly and then Shinji runs out crying and apologizing.

>>156396309
Wait I thought "Karl" was a composite manga/anime kaworu who killed the kitten.
Am I missing something?

Also during 3.0 I was literally yelling in the cinema "don't die yet! you're the only one who knows what's going on!" when kaworu put on the collar.

>>156396596
Karl is the name for Manga Kaworu, only newfags don't know that.

>>156396596
Karl is manga Kaworu. He did nothing wrong, objectively speaking. And is in fact the best Kaworu. Just remember these facts and that should be alright.

Also you should probably not shout in the cinema.

>>156396596
He directly lies about how Near Third Impact ended and is exactly wrong about what's in Dogma and everyone's planning for it. Fuyutsuki was the one with answers.

>>156396596
>literally yelling in the cinema
Wow, what an autist

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>>156396596
I fucking hate autists that yell in the cinema

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>>156396596
let's be honest anon, are you black?

>>156396747
How was he wrong about it?

>>156396866
Two Longinii and a living Angel turduckened inside Lilith. He's tuned out for an entire fight scene and mumbling into his hand about it.

>>156396949
No I mean how was he wrong about the impact?
He couldn't have known about dogma, Gendo deceived him. Gendo deceived everyone.

>>156396197

Anno probably can write drama anymore.

>>156397097
I forgot the most important letter of the post.

I meant "cant"

>>156397122
Who says it has to be by him? He needs to get Lucas'ed and have his franchise taken away form him before he continues to make more damage to it.

If we learned something with the mangas and the discussion all around, there are very few people who get this series properly. So need to be careful

>>156397013
Because Near Third ends with Lilith and 01 both lanced. He was there, he threw the thing, he knows it's a separate event from Third Impact proper and Shinji didn't unstick himself and reanimate Lilith.

>>156397438
No, that scene takes place in a different loop. That's why it's after the credits.
We're currently in the timeline where Kaworu didn't stop the impact in time.

So every girl in eva is a disgusting slut and there are still asuka and reifags around? I don't understand NGE fans.

>>156398864
I wouldn't exactly call Rei a slut

>>156396024
different anon and i do agree with you but humans would rather have someone to suffer with them then try the hard way to get help. the example given could also be the man who also is fucked up in some way and found the one person to accept their flaws and they both want to live in their cesspool of reality together.

so whats everyone opinion on the retake series?

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>>156398943
I wouldn't know, I dropped the show at episode 5. So I go by what people ITT are saying, and apparently she's been fucking some annoying faggot.

>>156399129
Gendo isn't an annoying faggot

>>156395860
No she specifically goes out of her way to complement Shinji about his skills while insulting another date she went on

She was just doing what she thought she herself would like. Same with challenging him to kiss her

>>156399129
Gendo is actually an alpha male though

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>>156399252
She can compliment him freely over his false-modest objections when he's legit good at something she isn't competing in. For the other stuff being on a level to receive her scorn is already the highest praise possible and in her mind self-evident to anyone who isn't baka.

>>156399917
She looks like a man in a dress here

>>156399291
>Literal older shinji
>Autist, obsessive, dependent on yui, shut-in.
>Alpha at all

He just happens to have some sluts throwing themselves at him, just like shinji has. The difference is that gendo lost any optimism whatsoever and isnt afraid to lie and have sex them to achieve his plans. Shinji still not that broken.

>>156400095
>gendo lost any optimism whatsoever and isnt afraid to lie and have sex them to achieve his plans
Sounds pretty alpha to me

What are the best subs for the series and EoE? Been a while since I've watched em and need a refresher.

>>156400728

Sephirotic batch usually is considered good subs. Nog sure if there is a BEST subs

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>>156387830
this but backwards

>>156387830
What was the relevance of Komm Susser Tod to the movie, like in terms of lyrics and what they refer to
Or is there not anything to really look into there

>>156401070
Anno wrote a poem during his suicidal days a few years before NGE and had an English band adapt it into a song. Which became Komm Susser Tod.

>>156401070
Maybe shinji let down his friends/humanity/asuka by being a fucking retard. But im not sure if the lyrics are supposed to match perfectly the movie, just the overall feel.

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>>156400941
Suddenly staff on duty and a 5 second response time.

>>156401304
Was this from the manga?

>>156401304
In the manga, did shinji choke her in the kitchen first? Because if he did (or even if he didnt), i find it very hard fot asuka to overpower shinji that way.
Shinji might not be athletic or particularly strong, but he still a man and asuka is a thin as fuck girl, shinji lifted her in this scene like nothing >>156400941.

>>156395899
Thats sad but i can totaly see it happen. Either that or asuka dares him to kill her this time. Or the best possible outcome, she doesnt do anything and stays there depressed.

>>156387830
Shinji stuffs his dick in Asuka's mouth to prevent her from screaming. He then proceeds to fuck her silly and she really does nothing to resist.

ie every generic porn scenario.

>>156401469
He neither chokes her nor jacks it, manga Shinji is boring. No Shinji was ever as weak as he pretends, though, he strains the same way opening a melted entry plug as a man twice his size.

>>156401680
Shinji's weakness comes from within himself, not his physical limitations

One thing i think its cool and im not sure if everyone realized, is asuka strangled motif.
>Mom choked a asuka doll till it got beheaded
>Mom then hangs herself + another asuka doll
>Strangled by shinji twice

Does anno has a asphixyation fetish? Will asuka develop one?

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What was meant by this?

>>156395627
Since when is rape considered alpha?

>>156395341
Do thread opening and type the word chance and do it until you find an asuka picture

It was after/around the super bowl iirc

>>156402190
>after/around the super bowl
Anon, there's a super bowl every year, you know?

>>156401988
Rei also got strangled, it's not specific to Asuka

>>156402216
This year's

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>>156401988
>introduced wearing a choker
>closes airways to kiss
>no resistance both times hands are around her neck

Mere coincidence.

>>156387830

She was already awake. She just didn't care.

>>156402766
You cant hide eye movement this well. Still dont change the fact she wouldnt care.

>>156395618
Why don't people understand that this scene actually implies that she indeed has evidence he's gay? He goes on to say "the only things you lack are restraint and brains" i.e you don't lack evidence at all.

>>156396596
Must be in some third world shitter where yelling in theaters is acceptable

>>156402321
I want Asuka to strangle me with her legs

>>156402321

I love this kind of cute art of eva instead of the normal art on "serious" scenes

>>156404528
Then why would he tell her she needs evidence in the first place?

>>156406924
Because its not gay if no one sees the video of the balls touching. Ask any lawyer

>>156406924
He needed to say it to deliver his sick burn after.

>>156399110
I like them. I thought it would just be a rehash, but they're exciting and different. I'm fully convinced they're sequels, but how exactly mystifies me.