Dragon Ball Super

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>>156386391
Did somebody say brilliant scientist?

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Gohanbros unite.

>>156386391
Why is your pic so shitty?

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>>156386473
He will never be relevant again, he semi-jobbed to a furry from the weakest universe

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>>156386600
Do you know what a homage is? Do you dude? I don't think you do

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When's Piccolo gonna get the power boost he deserves to be back on par with Goku?

>>156386685
>i-it's a homage g-guys! /o-ourguy!/

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>>156386729
Nope.

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>>156386735
cool homage dude

>>156386793
Frost is a cheating nigger that doesn't count.

>>156386685
>i-it's j-just a homage when toyotaro does it guys i s-swear

>>156386729
>on par with Goku
Will never happen.
He will always be below Gohan, but above Krillin.

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>>156386735
nice canon bro

>>156386823
>Toei copied Toei! i-its the s-same thing!
>w-when someone else copies it makes it okay for Toyo to copy!
Fucking Toyopedros, I can't believe it.

>>156386563
Reminder that Freeza made Vegeta cry like a bitch

>>156386685
"""Homages"""" shouldn't be happening 4 times in a single chapter. At that point, it's laziness/tracing.

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>>156386735
nice toei man
>>156386860
toyo's panel isn't congruent so it isn't traced bud
nice meme though

>>156386854
>muh canon
I'm glad you're proud that Toyo doesn't have the talent to come up with his own shit.

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>>156386391
God, this is potato quality if I've ever seen it

>>156386898
Not traced, just straight-up copied, that makes it better though
You Toyocucks are so fucking pathetic

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>>156386902
>muh creativity
i'm glad you're proud of your fanfiction, pedro
the rest of us enjoy reading the actual story of goku and the z fighters
>>156386938
>durr what is a reference? i'm retarded btw
ftfy

>>156386876
Reminder that takahata is an insufferable faggot with the worst weeb personality.

That asshole should never be allowed to speak when he's not acting.

>>156386913
Pretty cool fight, but I'm pretty sure special beam cannon > than Kamehameha wave, since it's more of a penetrating drill than a giant push back blast.

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hahaha

>>156386955
>being this in denial
Toyo could release an entire chapter in which every single panel was actually, legitimately traced, and every single line of dialogue was taken from a volume of DB with some of the names changed to make sense in Super, and you fucking Pedros would still defend it.

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how will toeispics ever recover?
>>156387002
>Toyo could release an entire chapter in which every single panel was actually, legitimately traced, and every single line of dialogue was taken from a volume of DB with some of the names changed to make sense in Super, and you fucking Pedros would still defend it.
you going to back that up or nah?

>>156387028
>some autistic Toyospic actually took the time to make this cringey shit
Back what up? That Toyocucks would defend Toyo if he released a chapter that was entirely blank except for one panel that showed a traced picture of a pile of dog shit? There's no need for me to back up, you're backing it up as we speak.

>>156387002
Such is the life of cuckolds. They would lick Toyotaros smegma covered lips if he asked them to.

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Apologize

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>>156387071
>some autistic Toyospic actually took the time to make this cringey shit

>>156387033
>>156386932
dude i get that you prefer your fanfiction over the canon manga written by toriyama and illustrated by toyotaro, but that doesn't make your fanfiction canon
>>156387071
>Back what up?
back up the post i highlighted, toeipedro

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I did a new one, guys

>>156387114
Funny how people bitched and called GT trash because of things like 17+17 being able to stand up to SS4. Now 17 fighting on par with SSB after training with poachers in DBS is being fiercely defended.

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/150449133/#q150451980
>Android 17 + Android 17 (with a trenchcoat!)=SS4

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/150449133/#q150451533
>The power-scaling in GT bothered me a lot
>Two Android 17's >= SS4 Goku

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149715787/#149717068
>Two Android 17's > SS4

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149320599/#q149341219
>Extreme power discrepancies, like Super 17's existence and Base Kid Goku being stronger than SS4 Goku at times

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/148823736/#q148831414
>Super 17 >= SS4 Goku

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/148823736/#q148831264
>At least DBS is much more consistent in terms of power-scaling than GT
>Two Android 17's >= SS4 Goku

>>156387116
anyone who makes shit like this is an autist. Anyone. I don't care if they're a Toyocuck, a Toeishill, or a dead gay black Vietnam transvestite.

>>156387120
>that doesn't make your fanfiction canon

That's ironic considering Cuckataro literally stole ideas from his own fanfic and incorportated it into his shitty promotional manga.

>>156387120
>back up the post i highlighted, toeipedro
>being this fucking retarded
I shouldn't have expected anything more from a Toyocuck.

>>156387128
SHIT

I thought I was using mangastream's scan but I see it's viz's now
I'm fucking stupid

Do you think Gohan will beat Piccolo the next episode or will he be forced to take his daily dose?

>>156387149
lol and didn't S17 get most of his power from absorbing ki from other people? if i remember right, he didn't even start anywhere near SSJ4 level
how will supercucks ever recover?
>>156387172
>That's ironic considering Cuckataro literally stole ideas from his own fanfic and incorportated it into his shitty promotional manga.
oh you mean the manga toriyama definitely read and loved so much decided to hire toyo over?
>>156387190
nice to see you've devolved into gibberish, typical toeishill behavior

>>156387201
Saved anyway

>>156387236
Toriyama is senile and doesn't give a fuck stupid Toyocuck, nobody cares what he thinks

>>156387236
>oh you mean the manga toriyama definitely read and loved so much decided to hire toyo over?
>more delusion
>anything I'm too stupid to understand is gibberish
I wish you'd just kill yourself already, Toyopedro.

>>156387282
>nobody cares what he thinks
then why are you here, spic?
>>156387298
more gibberish, very nice

>>156387314
(You)

>>156387348
nice rebuttal, pedro

Reminder that all Toyocucks are literally either mexican or canadian.

>>156387389
Also autistic, don't forget that

why doesn't goku just use nanomachines, son goku?

so he can have infinite energy like the Androids 17 and 18

>>156387149
Base Goku > Omega Shenron > Super 17 > SSJ4 Goku.

Cell > Omega Shenron.

Bricks > Trunks.

>>156387114
Yeah he better apologize for that god-awful outfit and having worse animation than Super Shenron.

>>156387505
Building>SS4 Goku

>>156387114
Not handsome. Super's 17 is better than Super 17.

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how would super remake the z ending?

>>156387505
lol when did base goku do anything remarkable to omega shenron using his own energy?

>>156387505
Pan > Majin Buu

Cars > Trunks

>>156387642
Tanked Omega's attacks. Base Goku is stronger than SSJ4. He's even stronger than Super 17 with SSJ4's power absorbed.

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>>156387616
>even the fucking wikifags aren't that blind
Kek

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>>156387685
Omega Shenron is weaker than Cell though.

>>156387685
>Tanked Omega's attacks
using his own energy? when was that?
>Base Goku is stronger than SSJ4.
you said that earlier with nothing to back it up
>He's even stronger than Super 17 with SSJ4's power absorbed.
source? he beat S17 after 18 guilted him into surrendering, no?
i've never watched GT in its entirety but i've seen all of these scenes and you seem to be remembering them wrong if you've seen them at all

>>156387757
Survived Omega's attacks before and during the Spirit Bomb. Goku didn't absorb any of that energy, it was all in the Spirit Bomb.

Super 17 was still stronger than SSJ4 Goku when base Goku beat him.

>>156387736
Satan was holding back

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>>156387149
It was always extremely stupid that two cyborg teenagers were more powerful than the Alien Mutant Emperor and the fabled Super Saiyan to begin with.
If we're truly going complain about powerscaling issues in Dragon Ball then you would need to retread all the way back to the Android Saga, where scaling was thrown right out the window.
Now, taking into account that if a teenager "altered on the cellular level" NANOMACHINES somehow manages to be stronger than Freeza and a Super Saiyan, then I guess it wouldn't be truly fuckin stupid that if that teenager fused with a copy of himself, or that his improved body would be stronger than the powered up forms of than Freeza or SSJ4/Blue if he trained it.

Who am I kidding this is stupid no matter how you look at it, I mean all of it. Logic never actually mattered in this franchise anyway.

>>156387847
>Survived Omega's attacks before and during the Spirit Bomb.
pretty sure he only did that during
>Goku didn't absorb any of that energy, it was all in the Spirit Bomb.
source?
>Super 17 was still stronger than SSJ4 Goku when base Goku beat him.
i already corrected you on this here >>156387757
18 interfered and C17 surrendered within S17

>>156387757
>i've never watched GT in its entirety but i've seen all of these scenes and you seem to be remembering them wrong if you've seen them at all
Nah he's right, Goku was tanking Omega's attacks in base after getting BTFO as SS4.

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>EoZ is canon
>DBS is also canon
>The ending of DBS is like the bad ending of Persona 3.
>U7 loses the Tournament of Power
>Zeno agrees to erase everyone's memories of the events since Goku met GoD Beerus, so everyone goes on living their lives happily like nothing had ever happened.
>This won't change the fact Zeno will delete U7 shortly after
>Goku flies off with Uub to train
>The Universe ends the day afterwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CSZDbKuL4

>>156387907
>C17
hi pedro

>>156387621
see >>156387922

>>156387911
>Goku was tanking Omega's attacks in base after getting BTFO as SS4.
with genki from across the universe, you mean?
>>156387945
what are you talking about? you know he's not an android, right?

>>156386391
I only watch this for Bulma and Vegeta scenes. I skip a lot of the fighting scenes, especially if they are Goku's.

>>156387907
Survived Omega's initial blast, survived Omega's NEGATIVE ENERGY KARMA BALL THAT WASN'T CHANGED TO POSITIVE ENERGY AND USED TO DISSIPATE THE NEGATIVE ENERGY COVERING THE EARTH (You despicable!), survived Omega attacking him while chargin his attack.

Spirit Bomb does not allow you to absorb energy into yourself. Manga makes this abundantly clear when Goku was charging against Vegeta, Frieza, and Buu. Even the movies obey that rule. It's how the Spirit Bomb works.

Super 17 was still stronger. He still should have been strong enough to take Goku's attack easily since he had a barrier up. A barrier that 18 was hitting with Ki blasts. A barrier he did not lower when Goku attacked.

>>156387965
>C17
hi pedro

Gogetafags, how makes you feel that base Vegetto may be stronger than SS Gogeta?

>>156388151
>Spirit Bomb does not allow you to absorb energy into yourself.
it does in the GT continuity, watch the Super C13 movie
>Super 17 was still stronger.
of course, but characters in this franchise can suppress themselves
S17 surrendered after his /emotional damage/ from 18

>>156387965
Before that. And that's not how Spirit Bomb works.

>>156388229
>base Vegetto may be stronger than SS Gogeta?
there is nothing canon to suggest this
>>156388244
watch the Super C13 movie, which is canon in the GT universe

>>156388237
>it does in the GT continuity, watch the Super C13 movie
Incorrect, Super 13 shows Goku is still vulnerable after charging it and had to have everyone defend him. Only after it was fully charged could it be absorbed into Goku's body. Goku could not absorb its power while charging it, consistent with the manga.

>Holding back
paco really

>>156388151
Dragon Fist allows you to hit outside of your weightclass.
see hirudegarn movie.

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>>156388267
>there is nothing canon to suggest this
Daizenshuu 7 says that Vegetto strenght is way stronger than a SS3's and SS Gotenks is just SS3 tier, therefore SS Gogeta is as well

>inb4 no muh Gogeta is vastly stronger
Trunks and Goten aren't that far from Goku and Vegeta at all, Gotenks isn't that weak compared to Gogeta.

>>156388316
Goku uses it as SSJ3 and defeats Hirudegarn, after Hirudegarn was injured. That's not "outside your weight class." Tapion's sword allowed Trunks to hit above his weight class, there is a drastic difference between the two.

>>156388237
>>156388267
>C13
hi pedro

>>156388315
>Super 13 shows Goku is still vulnerable after charging it and had to have everyone defend him.
correct. i'm not saying GT is infallible, far from it, but it's not totally far fetched to say Goku had increased durability due to all of the genki surrounding him. people go out of their way to say GT makes no sense when in truth it's not that bad outside of some of the scaling with the more minor characters
>paco really
what? S17 let himself die. go watch the fight again
>>156388379
>Daizenshuu 7 says that Vegetto strenght is way stronger than a SS3's and SS Gotenks is just SS3 tier, therefore SS Gogeta is as well
scan?
>>156388379
>Trunks and Goten aren't that far from Goku and Vegeta at all, Gotenks isn't that weak compared to Gogeta.
gogeta has no feats that you can even base this on. his only feat is destroying somebody's soul in one attack, which is a pretty good track record imo
i prefer vegetto myself, but to say vegetto's base > super gogeta is retarded because both are essentially featless

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>>156387922
>persona 3
>erase everyone's memories of the events
not this shit again

>>156388229
Doesn't matter, obviously Cuckgito in base would be stronger than SS Gogeta. Goku and Vegeta were far more powerful when they fused into Cuckgito against Zamasu than when they fused into Gogeta against Janemba. If you're referring to base Cuckgito in the Buu arc, you're retarded.

>>156388237
Even GT has the power of Holding Back? Amazing.

>>156388476
characters have been suppressing themselves since the saiyan saga, probably even before that but i can't confirm as i haven't read kid goku era in like 10 years

>Is it just me or is DBZ abridged waaaay better than it should be?

>Like yeah you'd expect it to be funny but it's way smarter and more quotable than you'd think - I almost feel like if those guys were working in a big studio they'd be really successful.

>Sure you can say it's much easier to add/parody a show than create one from scratch, which is true. But all the call backs, endlessly quotable lines and a sense of characterisation thats so hilariously spot on, it's arguably way more consistent than the show - which again is the opposite to what you'd expect, as parodies often just make the characters crazy versions of their former selves for a cheap laugh.

>Even just little things like trunks suddenly saying 'crap baskets' after hearing gohan say it for so long, isn't just funny but adds a real sense of weight and plausibility to the world of the show.

>Anyone else think this is kinda crazy? Like If I feel the need to get a DB fix I usually end up opting for abridged over Kai and noticing extra little inside jokes or even have my attention drawn to details in the relationships of certain characters from the og show.

>>156388533
what

>>156388462
>i'm not saying GT is infallible, far from it, but it's not totally far fetched to say Goku had increased durability due to all of the genki surrounding him
It is inconsistent with how it has always worked and does not make sense. Energy being used to defend himself is energy not being used to charge the attack. This is inconsistent and you yourself just admitted it.

Goku in base is stronger than SSJ4 using this evidence, and using the evidence that the Spirit Bomb does not work that way.

>>156388512
They could use Holding Back even in the Saiyan Saga? Amazing.

>>156388576
>Energy being used to defend himself is energy not being used to charge the attack.
why wouldn't goku defend himself when he's stuck in base with limitless genki at his disposal?

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The manga is such an enigma compared to the anime it's so laughable. No one reviews it, rarely anyone gives it praise, and it's made by some shit fan fiction-tier artist/author. No, it's not "more canon" because Toriyama approves of it. It isn't written by him, nor is it drawn by him. Same goes for the anime, but at least that's more enjoyable than the terribly handled story-telling in the manga. The manga will never become anything outside of V-Jump and the volumes issued. When someone says "Dragon Ball Super," first thing that'll come to their minds is the anime, not the promotional, garbage manga. Toyble's involvement with this series was a huge mistake. He's bringing in material from his AF doujins, and even based one of the new God of Destruction from a GT antagonist. How bad is that? Only Toyble could come up with something like it. Toriyama doesn't care about Toyble, he's simply glad that he doesn't have to draw Dragon Ball anymore himself.

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>>156386473
*blocks your path*

>>156386850
>>156386913
Toei should just make a DBO series instead of the garbage that Super is.

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>>156388635
>Toei
Then it would look like shit.

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>>156386473
>>156388634
*blocks both your paths*

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>>156388679

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>>156388628

>>156388622
Because 1). Spirit Bomb does not work that way otherwise he would have done that at literally any other point and 2). That is energy needed to stop Omega.

>>156388462
>scan?
I have none, but you can still search in the wikia for it
>inb4 wiki
I know but they still don't add that shit from nowhere

>gogeta has no feats that you can even base this on
So? Gogeta's strenght is based on Goku and Vegeta's with the same increase used for Gotenks strenght compared to Goten and Trunks'
The difference between Gogeta and Gotenks is the same as between Goku-Vegeta and Goten-Trunks, speculate with this is legit

>>156388470
>unironically using "cuck"
>"you're retarded" is his argument

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>>156388712
fucking traceiyama

>>156388674
>posting stills from an episode that aired almost 2 years ago
Retard

>>156388716
>That is energy needed to stop Omega.
oh so he only had enough to kill omega and not enough to defend himself from some little finger blasts? source?
>>156388732
>wikia
stopped reading right there

>>156388749
>t. butthurt Toei shill

>>156388674
And? At least it would have new characters in a new world setting.

>>156388760
>Oh so he only had enough energy to kill Frieza and not enough to defend himself from some little finger blasts? Source?

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>>156388760
>not having an argument

>>156386729
Gohan needs to introduce Piccolo to U7 daikaioshin, so we can see a proper Super/Ultimate Namekian.

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>>156388809
>thinks using the wikia is an argument

>>156388784
>muh Toei boogeyman

>>156388798
He got ya there Paco.

>>156388829
>still pretending to have an argument

When is the next Gine General?

I'm already tired of you powerlevel wikia faggot arguers.

>>156388931
>wikifags think their opinions mean shit

Pretty sure that Base Goku feats in GT were for these reasons:
VS Super 17 he only won because 17 threw the fight for his sister's sake.
VS Omega Shenron he tanked his attacks because he was dead already

What kind of dub did you gringos watch? You are always getting this wrong

Manga Vegetto confirmed>Beerus

>>156388988
>VS Omega Shenron he tanked his attacks because he was dead already
>Dead base Goku is stronger than SSJ4 Goku
Zombie Saiyan confirmed strongest form.

>>156388988
>he was dead already
Are you a retard

>>156389059
Infinite undead stamina/ki.

>>156389103
>SSJ3 Goku has infinite zombie stamina and ki
pedro pls

>>156388966
>implying
I guess you're not even trying anymore

>>156389059
But is Zombie Goku stronger than Lava Goku?

>>156389207
Well he's dead so he has Infinite undead stamina/ki so yes.

>>156388988
>What kind of dub did you gringos watch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR46WbmYFyQ

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>>156386473
Who cares about Gohan when we have Kuririn? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mzCHuYiO_c

>>156389273
Here, I fixed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KDnGsmdVBM

>>156388959
Make your own

>>156389332
I kinda wish the others would have been able to defeat Nappa on their own without the need for Goku. Still make a bunch of them die though, and then get wrecked by Vegeta which would definitely need Goku's help.

>>156388988
>VS Omega Shenron he tanked his attacks because he was dead already
ningen you what
that makes it WORSE

>>156388379
>Trunks and Goten aren't that far from Goku and Vegeta at all
wtf are you smoking
for one, you're looking as SS Vegeta vs SS Trunks, so most of your argument is out the window when discussing anything other than their base power.
Secondly, Trunks was giving it his all, and Vegeta was dodging and blocking everything until Trunks landed one scrape.
Vegeta promptly hit him back with a single punch and knocked him back.
Trunks is no where near Vegeta's level. Krillin put up a better fight against Nappa than Trunks did against Vegeta.

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>tfw when niggas think Tien will be the weakest in the Tournament

>>156389561
Let me stole that... wtf are you smoking?

>>156389626
Goten and Trunks were far from Goku and Vegeta.
Leagues even.
This is why the others were initially doubtful that fusing would lead to a warrior strong enough to fight buu.
That's why the fusion have to have a power boost just to stay relevant.

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>>156389626

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>>156386685
I'd say it's more of a callback.

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Shipppp

Why the fuck Gogeta even have Big Bang Kame Hame-Ha as attack? Strongest Vegeta technique is the Final Flash... no, in GT he even got a new one, Final Shine Attack.
What's the point when Vegeta can use two techniques stronger than Big Bang Attack?

>>156389728
>briefs
You know, I wondered, was Bulma ever referred to as Bulma Briefs in the manga, or is "Dr Briefs" just her dad's first name with Dr in front?
Aside from the Son family, are there any actual family names in DB canon?

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>>156389709
Saved

>>156389778
In japanese he's referred to as Briefs Hakaze, which doesn't necessarily mean he's using his surname.

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>>156389769
Final Shine attack was basically a weaker, one handed version of KameHameHa
Final Flash requires a ton of charge time (comparatively) and has an insane clearance. Too much collateral damage.
BBA is fast charge (since it's not a beam attack)
BBKHH is basically using the BBA charging method, but using the orb to fuel the blast, like in a KHH

>>156389837
You mean "hakase"

Also why don't you use just "doctor" again?

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I need some DB in my life and up to date with DBZ: A. I dropped Super around Ep 30, because QUALITY.

How is Super now? Is the animation better?
I willing to give it a second chance.

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>>156389914
Big Bang Kamehameha is also bright lights and gentle breezes.

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>>156389769
>>156389914
Final Kamehameha is best.

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>>156389932
Judge for yourself, this is one of the more recent fights.

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>>156389932
>Is the animation better?

>>156389932
>Is the animation better?
Yes https://sakugabooru.com/data/427d62e8422856b2c914492817e80435.mp4
It's still not as good as DB/Z but it's a fun watch. I recommend it
>>156390015
>not posting the full scene
https://sakugabooru.com/data/c17445fb5e748eaf0b7dd1ccdd5b1523.mp4

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>>156389728

>>156389932
Usually. /a/ doesn't know what animation is though and only ever posts stills or small 10 second loops of repeats.

You know, what Z had all the time.

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>>156389932
It's finally DBZ level.

>>156390002
>anime beam of the attack looks like shit
>manga charging is awesome but he doesn't shot the fucking attack

It hurts
I want an actual badass Final Kame (outside videogames)

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I've never really watched Super except for a few random clips. Does Vegeto ever use best attack?

>>156390172
>>anime beam of the attack looks like shit
please tell me this is a joke

>>156390217
It's like some crappy version of DA of the actual technique

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>>156390172
>Buu has a better animated Kamehameha than both Goku and Vegetto

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>>156390154
>[slapping noises]
thats still better than this

>>156390250
You're joking, right?

>>156390276
What is wrong with even half of those?

>>156390185
Cuckgito jobs like a failure

>>156390002
Man the episode preview for that one got me more hyped than I had been in a long. Shame they showed almost the whole fight though.

>>156390276
Literally every single one you just posted looks better than >>156390154

>>156386536
we're in the webs/geocities era of the internetz fag

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>>156390154

>>156390339
That fight deserved more than half an episode. And I don't see why it didn't get more, there's been a lot of filler.

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>>156390318
Absolutely nothing, Toeibro.

>>156388635
noone wants to see ugly ass cell-x again

fuck that shit, killed the entire game too

>>156390318
It's repeated frames of just a flurry of punches and kicks without any style or semblance of fighting technique. Still looks far better than that DBZ clip though.

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>>156390404

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>>156390374
Goku vs Cell has some of the best fight sequences in DBZ. Those 10 frames that lasted less than 30 second during an episode dont mean shit.>>156390154
Meanwhile Super looks like a dumpster fire every episode.

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>>156390404

>>156389778
People in the dragonball world don't have last names aside from the Son family. Videl actually makes this a plot point.

>>156390431
Only the Vegeta and F. Zamasu ones look like that though.
and the latter makes sense in context.

>>156389914
Final Shine is only good in games

>>156388229
well since gogeta still has the strongest form in the entire series cannon or non canon
ssj4 with god hair
it doesnt matter

>>156390520
better animation in a vidya than anything in super

fucking sad

>>156390417
No, really, what is wrong with even half of them? All of them are just minor clips of much longer fights, and all of them except maybe Vegeta kidney punching Cabba have more fluid motions and better actual action than nearly every fight in the damn Cell saga. Are you seriously going to compare any of those to something like Uchiyama's god-awful Trunks vs. Mecha Frieza "animation?"

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Anyone else hate that Toei turned Goku into a Ki spammer?
He only did it once before against Cell and that was out of desperation.

>>156388151
>
Spirit Bomb does not allow you to absorb energy into yourself
how did he passed the energy to kuririn in the sayian arc then? there was no ball until he passed the energy, the energy was around goku

>>156390482
>Those 10 frames that lasted less than 30 second during an episode dont mean shit
Pot, kettle.

>>156390572
Jobeta has influenced him

>>156390572
Top middle is actually pretty well animated.

>>156390584
And what exactly did that do to help Goku against Oozaru Vegeta? How did it boost Goku's strength, his defensive abilities?

Oh wait it fucking didn't.

>>156390571
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPVSkGoDrTY
This scene is pretty good except for Uchiyama's shit. The whole scene would have been cardboard cutout garbage if it was made for Super.

>>156390666
he would had died from internal bleeding and crushed organs whitout it?

>>156390557
>he hasn't watched the latest anime trailers for the 3DS game

>>156390572
Top middle and top right actually look pretty decent. Middle right is fine in context. Bottom right is barely even noticeable since it's so quick. Bottom left is absolutely fine.

>>156390699
did kay dub fixed the terrible gohan ssj2 transformation

>>156390720
Then why did Goku blind Vegeta if he could get a defense boost?

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>>156390015
17 vs Goku was Tate's best work, I loved it


>inb4 b-but muh on model!

>>156390760
because tatics
why kuririn still uses the taioken if he can do a kienzan barrage?

>>156390744
>Repeat frames
It's shit

>>156390744
i miss cuhrayzee namek vegeta

>>156390786
Why didn't he do a Kienzan barrage after Taioken?

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>>156390789
yeah 3 repeat frames are so much worse than horrible shit drawn by filipinos

>>156390744
Goddamn I forgot how awesome this shit was.

>>156390816
because that would mean he isnt a usuless side character and it would take the shine out of goku from a second and god forbid that happen

>>156390841
Good thing Super's been doing that then.

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moosle man's here

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>>156390829
Yeah, it was so much better back in the day.

>>156390858
the goku dick sucking is the main reason i dislike super.

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>>156390868

>>156390858
No the fuck it hasn't. Not at any point.
And if you think the god awful clusterfuck that was future trunks and his bullshit spirit sword is that then you are stoned.

>>156390885
Why are bananas growing out of his head

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>>156390841
That's why Universe Survival is /our arc/

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>>156390885

>>156390572
Clockwise
1- Clever usage of the technique as a distracting measure to close distance

2- Done in a fit of rage and as a means to keep Zamasu at a distance, a kamehameha would've gotten him stabbed by Black.

3-A explosive wave would've made more sense here

4- Goku is actively trying to buff him using weak spammable attacks, anything but ki blasts wouldn't work.

5- Dumb because if they got baited into thinking he was going to dive into their attacks using anything but their strongest ones doesn't make logical sense

6- Nothing really wrong here because the recovery time makes the ki blasts undodgeable and a kamehamhea would be too slow to serve the same purpose

7- retarded Goku doesn't care about collateral damage

8- same as above


it's only terrible when it's done in such a way that it feels wasteful and without actual tactical purposes.

>>156390897
>>156390904
>take the shine out of Goku for(m) a second
>Vegeta gets actual wins
>Majin Buu beats Goku 1 on 1
>17

>>156386685
>it's okay when toyo does it!

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>>156390962

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>>156387922

Man I wish Super had animation this good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNBbsfGW0NQ

>>156391016
>aura stops
every time

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who wore it better?

>>156390288
It's just a poorly proportioned Kamehameha masked with yellow lightning

>>156391013
>someone actually did it
Thanks anon.

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>>156391031
I wish Z had animation this good.

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>GT is better than Sup-

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>>156390962
>cherrypicking inbetween frames
hahahahaha

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>>156390572
Remember when Goku was a good fighter?

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>>156391013

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>>156390699
>trunks vs robot frieza was worst animation in z
>still not as bad as 75% of super

>>156391086
This movie was fucking great.

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>All this QUALITY
>This hasn't been posted yet.

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>>156391117

>>156391124
It was shit except for the animation
>no tao
>red ribbon army look retarded
>staff officer black isnt black anymore, instead a spic
>general blue killed by guns
>eighter and goku copy gohan and 16

>>156389332
I genuinely hope Krillin proves to be a fucking beast in the Tournament of Power.

>>156391187
>>>/out/

>>156390938
There is no excuse for 1, retard. rofl

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>>156391108
Saiyan blood, one too many hits to the head, and raw power addiction has left Goku the equivalent of a fighting game player who has the best character who he just needs to win a shit load of matches with by spamming powers moves, instead of a fighter who has to learn to absolute of his craft to get the edge at the top levels.

>>156391173
Z had literally the exact same shit. Not AS bad, but still QUALITY.
https://sakugabooru.com/data/8d15a7a4d578e91e49f90a77fb060950.webm
0:32

>>156390789
>durr muh choreography

>>156391124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1cCxGOPCXg

Better than DB, Z, GT, or Super will ever look.

>>156391565
too bad it butchered the story and ruined any power consistency
the battle jacket was never supposed to be a threat to goku in the original

>>156391565
>no timeline where this is where Goku went Super Saiyan and shit went Heroes tier for him since

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>>156391565
did goku just go fucking super saiyan in dragon ball

what the fuck is going on

>>156391621
Pedro I know English isn't your first language, but read that again.

>>156391565
>dat scream
I miss that voice so much. The new Kid Goku voice just isn't the same.

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>>156391565
>kid goku going super saiyan
>in dragon ball

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>>156391780
>Gero creates shota 17 and loli 18 to fight him alongside 16 after he destroys the RR army effortlessly

>>156391102
Clearly Building mastered the power of Holding Back.

>>156391828
the more I read that the more I laugh

>>156391102
I'm more concerned about the super strong glass that doesn't break even though it has 10000 tons of weight pressing against it.

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>>156391628
>>156391629
>>156391780
>>156391798
Yes
YES

I want this more than I want another chapter of Yamcha Isekai

>>156391102
Vegeta cant even lift 1000t, that building is probably heavier

>>156391876
what happened to yamcha isekai? does it got cancelled?

>>156391102
Saiyans can't lift.
their strenght is pure kinetic energy punches and magic blasts.

>>156391906
It's a rather small building and it's falling very slowly, so it's probably like 600 tons.

>>156391967
>>156391906
Vegeta has to life his own bodyweight in 150 gravity all the time

>>156391876
>16, L17 and L18 would all have to fight together as a fighter/defender trio in order to keep pace against SS Kid Goku, and Goku would still be full on in the technique despite all the new supreme power, meaning shitloads of SS techs and shitloads of wrought scenes with 16 reminding Goku of why he went SS in the first place and L17/L18 getting fucked on by the other Z fighters

No zenkais, no kaiokens... SS at that point would actually be a pretty reasonable upgrade.

>>156391688
I understand that you dumb yuropoor cunt. The movie is trash and even animation cant save it.

>>156391967
So Building WAS holding back? Damn, Goku is lucky it didn't crush him.

>>156391780
that's toei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFt-pbwAALg

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>>156391102
So power scaling goes Arale > SSB Goku > SS4 Goku.

Got it.

>>156392046
>tfw Beerus' Hakai can eliminate a comic relief, gag, or toon force possessor
>he can wipe out Popeye in a sec

>>156392046
checks out

SO SSB Vegito > Beerus > SSB Goku/Vegeta

>>156392089
So Vegito Blue > Beerus > Arale > SSB Goku > SS4 Goku?

>>156392046
Because she is a true gag character who can only be defeated by meta magic.

>>156392089
Actually popeye got deleted by a martian deleting ray once, and he just undeleted himself.

>>156392089
I'll bet you a goddamn dollar he wouldn't pull it off on Arale. By virtue of something distracting him every single time in a comedic manner. Or he keeps accidentally erasing other people. Or gets distracted by food.

>>156392005
>Loli 18 teasing kid Krillin
muh heart

>>156392125
i guess he'll hakai him again during his undeletion

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>>156392125
>Beerus asks how Popeye did that
>Beerus discovers Spinach
EVEN ZENO-SAMA WILL BE BLOWN AWAY

>>156392126
Indigestion from eating a Food Spirit Bomb has already happened once, so any of those are good bets.

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Does anyone else like the fact that OG Vegeta is along for the ride even though he pretty much becomes the straight man that deals with all the bullshit now?

>Sayan Prince

>>156392147
>L17 and L18 and 16 all have their hearts won and turn
>they all join together to defeat Gero after he converts himself into an android and creates 19 as the answer to Super Saiyan
>entire finale on the par with World's Strongest as Gero becomes the Evil Old Master like a super Tao Pai Pai by enhancing himself to use the ol' trick of knowing Every Single Move And Technique along with a shitload of enhancements
>19 has the almighty power of just eating ki relentlessly, forcing Goku to not rely on SS and band with the others after too many other deadly encounters

Hell, maybe even Daimao joins in place of Piccolo when seeing how shit goes down.

>>156392268
Vegeta is the best character in Super, hell he's a better character than anyone in GT.

>>156391629
Dragonball GT my man.

>>156392594
HEY

IT'S ME

NEKU

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Pretty sure that Popeye has stronger toon force then Arale.
He can alter his own story by threatening the creator if I remember correctly.

>>156392663
Arale gives Toriyama shit all the time.

>>156392304
This

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>>156392594

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>>156392594
>he finds out you're strong

>Goku was right to stay dead but Old Kai had to ruin everything

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>>156392806
Majin Buu forced their hand, it was an apocalypse scenario, and where the timeline split as Goku came back to life and Beerus again became RESPONSIBLE

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It's too bad that Minus is the last piece of Toriyama's art we'll ever get in manga form. I like his current comfy art style more than Toyotaro's.

>>156392975
>those thin legs

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>>156392975
I also love Tori's artstyle but I wouldn't want it over Toyo's for the monthly manga.(as the continuation of the series)
I do however would love to see a gag manga by Tori himself that will be fitting for his chibi artstyle.

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>>156392721
>>156392594
NOT ENOUGH

>>156392994
I wonder if there are any other pages Toriyama did sketches for.

>>156391565
>ECHehhhehehuhuhuhuUWAAUWAUWAUWA

Holy fuck. I forgot how terrible Kid Goku's voice is.

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>>156393053
Hopefully we find out about juicy info next Tori/Toyo interview most when Volume 3 is released.

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Anyone else enjoyed Goku and 17 interactions during the two past episodes?

I personally liked the conversation they had during the last part of episode 87. They seemed to understand each other surprisingly good considering their personalities.

>>156393095
most likely*

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>>156393095
I wanna know if he did since this small choreography reminds me of something Toriyama would do for fun

>>156393095
he even freakin traces in his avatar

>>156393119
I liked it. Everyone else is cock slapping hollerin' for power levels, I just liked that their first meeting ever was like this. It was very honest. A surreality of time and intent that his creation as his killer ended like this.

>>156393134
That's an homage.

>>156393095
Tell me, why does Toyo wears the mask?

>>156393125
Why don't they wear those clothes anymore?

>>156393183
Lotta loyalty for a hired fanfiction writer.

>>156393386
Because they no longer are Whis' students

>>156393439
No matter how you take that line, it isn't good

>>156393439
Or, you know, Toriyama decided not to put them in it because he never gave a new design for Vegetto.

>>156393134
Great meme ebin

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>Anon claims BNHA will overtake Super in ratings
>BNHA drops out of the top 10
>Super's ratings increase

>>156393511
Official excuse - They no longer are Whis' students
Informal excuse - Toriyama doesn't want redesign Vegetto

Both are true

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>>156392975
Minus is such a heap of shit.
Those other two Saiyans just look like humans and Bardock is just a Goku clone instead of how he originally had a face like Raditz.

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>Goku Black in XV2 Dub: I must know more about you Goku. Knowing will make me even stronger....Because knowing is half the battle, and the other half is the battle.
>Goku Black in XV2 Dub: Heh... Such a fun battle. Goku Black likes you.

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>>156393537
Where is the edit of this with their faces wrenched into ahegao rage with fists raised and covered in blood with their other arms reaching down to pin their implied victim

>>156393610
>Those other two Saiyans just look like humans
All ningen look the same to me.

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>>156393648
ZAMASU

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>>156393613
kek

>>156393537
What's wrong with BNHA? I thought it was decent for a shounen animu. Is it due to the fact most jumped back to huge titan dicks?

>>156393613
>Heh... Such a fun battle. Goku Black likes you.
Sounds like a ningen wrote it.

>>156393610
>implying saiyans doesn't look like humans
>implying Bardock original face isn't just Goku's because Goku's face was different time ago too
>"captura de pantalla"
Try again Paquito

>>156393567
If they are no longer students then why do they keep on begging whis for training?

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>jap
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/856833307614613505/pu/vid/640x360/zjsgkXYY47uG67PL.mp4
>eng
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/856771438707183616/pu/vid/640x360/JzrQP5xX45NQ738t.mp4

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