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This character is universally loved in Japan but has many haters

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This character is universally loved in Japan but has many haters in the west.

What does it say of differences in taste between Japan and the west?
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>>156384807
Nips have shit taste. It's widely known.
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It says that you enjoy making wild generalizations
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Mind you, Madoka is also one of the most popular girls and until the last 3 episodes, spent most of the show being hesitant, getting mentally scared and being in tears constantly. You shouldn't take Japan's tastes that seriously.
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>>156384892
But it's true. Sayaka is the third most popular character after the two mains while discussin her with the english speaking fandom causes a flame war at best
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>>156384807
Westerners bring different cultural views with them. To western senses, Sayaka's "I'm a zombie" break down doesn't make any sense. Sure, her soul is in a Faberge egg, but she's still the same person, so her reaction doesn't follow. In an eastern view, since her soul is no longer housed in a human body, it will change to match the container and she'll become increasingly inhuman as a result.
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>>156385142
>Sayaka's "I'm a zombie" break down doesn't make any sense.

I noticed a person's humanity is a big deal in Japan

>Character has superpowers
>Is insecure about their humanity

This is really easy to find in anime.

On the other hand, the only piece of western media I saw with this premise was Robocop.
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>Sayaka has the nerve to think her life is awful while personally knowing Homura and Kyouko
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>>156384807

Character analysis in the west goes a little further than "Kawaii!"
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>>156384807
Sayaka is great and not stupid. Except for blowing her wish on something retarded but besides that.
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>>156385473
>and not stupid
Even Sayaka disagrees.
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Fuck Mami what the fuck was she doing trying to pull in the rest into this sick world
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>>156385507
She was lonely, and just let the situation go to her head..
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>>156385556
no goddammit anon fuck off.
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>>156385473
Sayaka is great and a terrible idiot.
If she wasn't a terrible idiot she wouldn't end up as a tragic heroine and would lose her straightforward personality.
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>>156385642
Yeah
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>>156385744
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>>156385813
You get the picture
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>>156385813

Why does Mami always have dozy eyes?
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>>156384906
Are you implying that you have a low opinion of Madoka?
You make me sad.
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>>156385715
>>156385744
>>156385813
How will Kevin-kun ever recover?
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>>156384807
Japs have shit taste due to their smaller brains. Sayaka will always be a shit.
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>>156385423
She doesn't know the details about Homura during the show. Madoka doesn't fully know until the ending.
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>>156384906
>only character smart enough to not immediately sign a contract with an emotionless alien surrendering her soul for eternity before asking about the fine print
>not clearly and doubtlessly best girl
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>>156386129
She would have done it if not for Homura.
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>>156386129
>only character smart enough to not immediately sign a contract
You don't know who Amy is, do you?
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>>156386129
It's hard to understand not wanting to be a magical girl even at the cost of your soul
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>>156386129
Madoka is the one person who would jump into the contract on principle that she would be someone who helps people. Remember, she didn't even care about making a wish at first. She also tried to contract to save Sayaka twice during the show. Only when she learned the truth did she stop and think, which is when she shone the brightest.
Madoka is still best girl, though.
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>>156385507
In the episede where we see the different timelines Homura has been in, we can see how Mami loses her sanity once she learns magical girl turn into witches, so, if that is anything to go by, it means she didn´t knew how fucked up things were when she meet Madoka for the first time.
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Sayaka-chan is the best girl in the series and I love her greatly.
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>>156384807
Japan has excellent taste.They didn't get the title of "honorary aryans" for nothing.
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Why didn't they wish for infinite wishes?
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I rewatched the show recently.
Holy fuck Sayaka's snapping is done so badly. She doesn't mentally snap, she just turns into a different character entirely.
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>>156385844
I'm somehow reminded of Yunyun from Konosuba.
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>>156387533
It's not about snapping, it's about losing hope and being overcome by despair.
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Mami a shit.
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>>156385001
She's the least popular one of them though.

It goes Homura > Madoka > Mami > Kyouko > Sayaka
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>>156387680
Technically the least popular is the retarded cheese but nobody give a shit about her
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She was a semen demon to begin with so it wasn't a surprise she turned witch. Just symbolism with her soul gem being located over her womb says it all.

>>156385813
Recent bought a bunch of 1/6 Meguca action figs off Mandarake. Sayaka was the deepest discounted one same condition.
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>>156385744

>Sayaka does not even get her own can

I am not even a fan of her, but this made me sad for some reason.
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She selflessly gave up her humanity for someone that she loves. That makes her a good character in my book.
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>>156388063
Yes, but she regretted it because she realized after the fact that her real wish was for him to return her feelings, not for him to have his hand healed.
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>>156385744
I want to drink Homu-juice if you know what I mean.
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>>156387601
Yes. Mami won't get fucked because she's meant to die alone and unloved.
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>>156384807
I never really hated her. I just thought she was an idiot for throwing away everything for the sake of some boy who didn't even care for her all that much.
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It's okay, everyone love Sayaka now.
Unite against the devil.
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>>156384807
She has the best deisgn desu
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>>156384807
That's not true at all. Even in the Shaft official MadoGatari poll, she's 4th behind Mami. It's universally Homura.
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>>156387533
If you knew you would have to dedicate your entire life to fighting, and never have time for any joy until the day you die, which would probably be soon, wouldn't you take a complete 180?
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>2017
>still trying to stir shit with my girl Sayaka
I don't care about anyone else's tastes. Sayaka is my favorite.
>>156385423
Pity contests are just pissing contests, disgusting and help nobody. People are different, they have different experiences and take things differently. Sayaka is a very typical girl who gets sucked into something extraordinary. She wasn't alone in the world like Homura, orphaned like Mami, or had her wish harm others like Kyouko. Instead her wish ultimately harms her. I think that makes her sympathetic but in a different way.
>>156385473
She wished to give her friend/crush his life back, creating hope for him and despair for herself. I believe one big problem is that viewers don't care about Kyousuke and he (as well as Hitomi) is just a plot device. Ultimately, she couldn't handle the consequences of her wish. While there are things beyond Sayaka's control, Sayaka also hurt herself by her own issues and behavior.

She definitely behaved idiotically, but she was a sympathetic idiot to me.
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>>156388172
Good it's what that horrible friend killer deserves.
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>>156384832
I don't think you should badmouth the people that make your favorite anime.
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>>156387533
That's called a character arc.
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>>156388247
We Homu here. We all worship the devil. Better run before we skin you alive and sacrifice you to the Homu.
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>>156388319
Fourth out of all the characters in both of those shows? That's still almost universally loved.
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>>156388335
>Mami outright tells her this
>Mami outright says death is the price for a wish
>Mami fucking dies in front of her
Nah, bruh, Sayaka brought it on herself.
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>>156385844
>>156385813
>>156385779
>>156385774
>>156385744
>>156385715
That's pretty funny. Sayaka is really unwanted
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>>156387533
>She doesn't mentally snap, she just turns into a different character entirely.
I'm really not sure what the distinction here is supposed to be. Mentally snapping IS turning into a completely different person (hence the term "snap").
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>>156388398
No, 4th out of the megucas.
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>>156388348
I dunno if you've been around, but just three or four years ago we used to have frequent Sayaka love threads.
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Nips are pedophiles and hide it with anime
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What does Sayaka's cape feel like?
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The English language cannot honestly encapsulate just how much of an incompetent, braindead cunt Sayaka is. How do you fuck up so much while at the same time acting like a huge bitch about it?
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>>156388404
Sayaka's maiko figure is sold as a two part set with the Kyouko maiko figure for the same reason. The other girls dont have a problem selling.
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>>156388401
The key difference is whether you have something to show for it.
Sayaka consciously decided that her life was an adequate price to pay for saving Kyousuke. But her wish ended up backfiring. So in the end she had nothing to live for.
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Homura is objectively the best Meguca.
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>>156388461
Well there were threads for every girl, almost too many.
And they tended to devolve into either imagedumps or arguments.
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>>156384807
It says that waifufags have different taste in the east and west.

Also she was more developed in the third movie, along with Madoka.
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Sayaka might as well be the Sakura Matou of Madoka. she's only interesting when she's crazy and full of despair. Nobody gave a damn about how delluded she was until then, she was bascially like those normalfag idiots you want to see get crushed by having their girl cheat on them or not getting that wonderful job because the boss hired his bosses kid or some loose bitch he wanted to screw. Idiots are only good when watching something bad happen to them and their eventual breakdown as a result of said bad thing and that's exactly the kinda character Sayaka was. The only thing they didn't do is show that the peson she did all this for doesn't really give a damn about her and will wind up forgetting her completely and fucking some other girl.
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>>156388608
But OP is a lying shit poster.
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I feel so bad for Kyouko, always getting forcibly paired with this walking talking piece of shit. Suffers for her entire life, and when it's finally time for her reprieve she's stuck with the biggest bitch in any magical girl series.
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If your favorite meguca isn't Homu or Kyouko then you probably have shit taste.
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>>156388655
>every thread
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>>156388655
Kyouko chose this anon
Don't disparage her choice
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>>156388638
I disagree
>aren't girls cutest when they're almost retarded.jpg
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>>156388172

>cute blonde girl with a nice personality and massive cow tits
>ever dying alone

Ah japan.
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>>156388581
I remember the Sayaka ones got shitposted so hard that people came up with a "Knights of Sayaka" group to combat it. I wonder if it was the same people who were in the Knights of Charlotte in Infinite Stratos threads.

Jesus Christ that was all six years ago.
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>>156388095
I think both are true. She genuinely wanted to make him happy, so she granted his wish. But this came at the expense of what she wanted for herself. Sayaka couldn't come to terms with certain aspects of herself; she's actually really hard on herself. In Mami, she saw someone to emulate: strong and totally selfless (this isn't the whole truth, but Sayaka doesn't know that). She strives to be like that. Everything combines to her undoing.
>>156388461
I remember, I had fun. I was here for the frequent shitstorms too.
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>>156388494
>for the same reason.
KyouSaya, it sells.
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>author literally said mami can beat sayuka anytime including her witch form
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>>156389399
Mami's a veteran.
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Homura is a good girl who deserves love and eternal salvation.
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>>156389399
>combat veteran can defeat the weakest girl in the series

Is anyone surprised?
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>>156388404
I want her though!
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I like Mami.
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>>156389970
Ok.
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How much could improve meduca if she appears smug in every scene?
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Sayaka a best. The true hero of the show.
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I like Sayaka though
She's straightforward and chill, and doesn't present that overdramatism that the other girls (aside from Mami) have.
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>>156390088
Oh yeah, and she's the only one (aside from Mami again) who doesn't have a stupid outfit
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>>156390165
>she's the only one (aside from Mami again) who doesn't have a stupid outfit
I'll beat you up for having such shit taste.
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Sayaka did nothing wrong. The world was wrong.
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>>156390688
Madoka's the one with the most ridiculous. Even her friends laughed at it in concept.
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>>156390750
I think it's very cute.
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She murdered two guys just because they were trashtalking some random bitch she never met.
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>>156391039
>ridding the world of shitty males
>not a cause for celebration
Notice how the males in Madoka are shit? All males must accept their new place in society like Madoka's father, or perish.
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>>156385365
>On the other hand, the only piece of western media I saw with this premise was Robocop.

You have to be a cyborg, a chimera (i.e. half animal or alien), or undead in Western media before you start freaking out about your own humanity.
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>>156384807
a bitch
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>>156391256
The good ol' days. So many heathens were slaughtered in the name of Our Lady.
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>>156391039
asking for it imo
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>>156391039
No one's going to say it? Fine, it's ambiguous, senpai.
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I love Sayaka
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>>156391406
Yeah it's ambiguous in the anime, no point saying it's true or false. Plus, no one really gives a shit.
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>>156387680
She's both Shinbo's and Butcher's favorite.
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>>156391330
Sayaka threads were guaranteed shitstorms.
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Sayaka is best magical girl. Not only in Madoka.
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>>156391406
It's only "ambiguous" due to Shinbo's waifufaggotry.
Regardless she shows regret of her actions next scene which already implies she did something fucked.
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>>156391951
Does Sayaka ever do anything she doesn't immediately regret? Why doesn't the stupid bitch try thinking for once?
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It is universally acknowledged that Madoka is the cutest meguca.
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>>156391951
She expresses regret about troubling everyone. Shinbo gave Butcher full creative control; if he had his way, Sayaka would have lived and Butcher said "nah". The scene is meant to be ambiguous period.
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>>156392179
and the bestest
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>>156385365
>Attack on Titan
>Full Metal Alchemist
>Hellsing

It all makes sense now. Why is this?
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What was madokas wish and weapon? What was her ability? I dropped the show for some reason, I think because I started a new job and never got around to finishing.
Who kills witch sayaka
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>>156393245
Just watch the show. It ends up being rather complicated at the end.
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>>156384807
Japan has massive shit taste.
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>>156393594
*massively great taste
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I want to marry Mami-san!
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>>156384807
Western hipsters pride on hating things. That's the real truth that pretty well explains everything
>including half the posts on /a/
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>>156393773
Cutest outfit
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>>156385142
This. Its super obvious if you compare how Fateshit is viewed by westerners vs Japan and other eastern countries. There's a lot of negativity regarding self sacrifice in the west, while in the east is generally considered a virtue.
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>>156384807
well westerners opinion is not relevant nor do they care
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Homura > Kyoko > Madoka > Mami > Sayaka
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>>156388353
I'm American, and in America we nuked the people who made our favorite animes.
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>>156395568
sounds legit.
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>>156395299
Yep.
Sayaka = meguca for non-degenerates
Homufags = meguca for sexual deviants and rapists
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>>156395733
>Homufags = meguca for sexual deviants and rapists

Homura and Madoka are just very good friends.
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>>156385779
So, in this photo Sayaka is sold out, while others are not? Good job proving OP right.
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>>156384807
Madoka is moe garbage and every single character in this piece of shit anime is flat, boring and uninteresting
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Is this a fucking Madoka thread?

Okay let me tell you guys what's up.

Sayaka was originally my worst girl.

But now I think she's best girl. I'm a convert.
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>>156391579
Source?
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>>156395854
In order for madoka to be moe, the characters would need to have actual depth to them.
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>>156385142
Bullshit.

If I discover that I've been made a lich without my knowledge and explicit consent, damn straight I'm going to flip my shit.
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>>156395987
Every day, a believer is born.
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>>156392814
Because their society requres people to fit in. You don't fit in if you're different.
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>>156397543
yes
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>>156388638
But Sakura is actually a good character.
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>>156384807
Sayaka always stuck to her ideals even if it's impossible to survive like that as a magical girl, at least in the old witch system. That can be seen as admirable, but also really annoying.

She did seem to get more popular with rebellion.
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Sayaka is the best girl after all.
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>>156385488
She keeps saying that but I disagree.
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I have always had an intense desire to fuck Lawnchair.
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Mods give me powers to nuke these pathetic threads.

It's fucking sickening watching these roleplaying retards plague the front page.
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>>156400928
I am. Everything she posts is always really mysterious and passionate. She's pretty steamy.
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>sayaka is the least popular meguca in japan
How can these sayakafags tell such a lie?
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>>156401186
Because it's just shit posting.
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>>156384807
Sayaka did nothing wrong
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>>156385507
The two of them were going to contract with Kyuubey with or without Mami's advice, she was just trying to make sure that their wishes weren't stupid
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>>156386129
Bitch please Madoka would have contracted without a second thought if it weren't for Mami and Homura
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>>156389399
Is there a SINGLE magical girl who can defeat Mami Tomoe in solo combat when she is at her peak combat prowess?
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Well the thread lasted about 150 posts before tripfaggots destroyed it, I'm impressed
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>>156401712
Homura easily, provided that Mami doesn't cheat like she did in rebellion.
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>>156401860
How did Mami cheat
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>>156401521
She stole my heart, but that can't really be helped.
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>>156401712
Madoka.
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>>156401712
Yes
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>>156396267
Pretty much this. It would make me paranoid, yeah.
>you get mugged and somebody steals your ring
>somebody tries to break my ring
Jesus Christ, I would be flipping out everytime my ring is mentioned.
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>>156384807
Nips value suicidal self-sacrificing while westerners see it as stupidity?
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>>156402104
If some fool tries to steal your ring just transform and kill them
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>>156402139
>get gassed out of nowhere
>get knocked out
Also
>I feed on humans to power myself
>I also directly kill humans to protect myself
Dude, I probably wouldn't last long.
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>>156402065
Mami defeated Homura, Homura defeated Madokami. Hence Mami is stronger than Madokami. Nagisa utterly defeated Mami, which makes Nagisa the strongest girl in the series.
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>>156402257
Well shit how are you supposed to fight witches if you can't even stop yourself from getting blindsided by a mugger? You sound like a shit magical girl tbqh
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>>156402292
The thing is, you can see witches coming since they (with the exception of Walpurgis) have to be in a labyrinth. You get a trigger warning when you enter/are swallowed by the labyrinth and you still have to find the witch inside of it. A mugger can come out of nowhere in big cities and won't give a warning shot.
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Homura used to be a justifiable character but after Rebellion you can't NOT hate her. she literally destroyed Madoka's wish and desecrated her sacrifice just to satiate her twisted lesbian desires.
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>>156401935
With her cheat ribbon that interfered with Homura's only ability to fight.
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>>156402532
>being retarded
>>
>>156402532
You didn't understand rebellion or Homura's character.
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>>156402543
that's not cheating you dumb waifufag
>>
>>156402275
Seems legit.
>>
I want to hug Madoka and fug Mami
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>>156402706

mami is for walk in the park deitos only
>>
>>156384807
There is less respect in the west for "whiny" or depressed characters, which is also why Evangelion is more controversial in the west
>>
it's not okay to kill people on a train for no reason
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>>156402826
Even if they are assholes or attempt vile acts such as trying to rape or harassing people?
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>>156395568
Good point.
>>
>>156385142
>>156394599
>>156395299
>>156402134
>>156402785
>Clearly bullshit statement from OP
>/a/ pesudointellectuals try to find an explanation for it
The Japanese fan base jerks Homura off even harder than the Western base.
>>
>>156402945
>Rape
>Harassment
Those dudes were doing nothing of the sort and even questioned why a middle schooler was out that late. She killed those dudes for locker room talk.
>>
>>156384807
You know Sayaka's fans love her for her tits right?
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>>156403038
Even Madoka has bigger tits than Sayaka.
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>>156385715
>>156385744
>>156385774
>>156385779
>>156385813
>>156385844
DELET THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>
>>156403548
no
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>>156385744
>Madoka soft drinks sold since 1884

...what.
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>>156385715
>>156385744
>>156385774
>>156385779
>>156385813
>>156385844
What I'm getting out of this is that I need to move to Japan so I can pick up all kinds of best meguca swag on the cheap. Nips' shit taste will be my gain.
>>
>>156403183

Who's going around deleting the word of god?
>>
What was Homura's master plan for what to do after defeating Walpurgisnacht?
>>
Do not worry. I got you covered. Paranoia is good sometimes.

>>156403801
https://archived.moe/a/thread/156384807/#q156403801_1
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>>156403891
She never thought that far ahead.
>>
>>156403744
>swag
normie leave
>>
>>156403891
>>156404152
Continuing to watch over Madoka. Just like she said: I want to be the one to protect her.
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>>156403183
>Mami's breasts are better.
Sayaka has the superior fit body though.
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>>156388353
madoka fucking sucks. all of it. its just lesbian barely teenaged girls getting depressed and turning into mindfuck monsters.
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>>156405921
>sayaka's legs
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>>156405987
>its just lesbian barely teenaged girls getting depressed and turning into mindfuck monsters.
You're supposed to give reasons why it sucks, not reasons TO watch it.
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>>156405921
Sayaka is the lewdest meguca.

She shows the most skin, is clearly into boys and girls, and dies for love.
>>
How come Kyuubey doesn't contract with adolescent boys?
>>
>>156406017
Is Samurai Jack /a/?
>>
>>156406623
Not pure
>>
>>156406720
As much as King of the Hill and Cory in the House is.
>>
>>156401712
Kyoko beat her multiple times in TDS.
>>
>>156407667
Mami let her win both times
>>
>>156407801
Probably the first time, but Mami was going all-out in their last battle. It's the only time we've ever seen Mami use her razor wire ability.
>>
Does the carpet match the drapes?
>>
>>156392814
Tokyo Ghoul
Parasyte
Ajin
>>
>>156408004
Parasyte was shit
>>
>>156408030
Your taste is shit. It's the best out of the 3 listed in the post you replied to.
>>
>>156407909
She knew that the Kyoko that she shot was an illusion, but didn't press the issue because she was trying to save mana for murder/suiciding Witch Sayaka (but she ran out anyway)
>>
>>156384807
Sayaka is love
Sayaka is life
>>
>>156408030
Not even talking about taste here man, I'm just replying adding more anime that's all about muh humanity.
>>
>>156388888

that feeling when most of the madoka girls problems could be averted or delayed if they just had a steady boyfriend fugging them and giving them comfort.
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>>156408275
It's my dream to have that kind of relationship with Kyoko.
>>
>>156408342
I don't think that would have solved her problems my dude
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>>156408275
>implying that having real relationships with non-Meguca is possible
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>>156390019
was she ever smug in the series? I don't remember her smug faces from the show
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>>156409211
Not a single time. They're all edits.
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>>156384807
People hate her over here? I thought people loved her.
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>>156410166
Tripfags and Tumblr aren't people.
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>>156411123
Well I'm neither and she's my fave.
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>>156384807
>universally loved in japan
>>
>>156409211
I miss self-tsukkomi edits. Why did they go away?
>>
>>156395568
>We
What's with that brainwashed shit ?
>>
>>156388888
checked.
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I have a mighty need to dick this dummy.
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