Season 2?
hopefully never. we don't need another shit adaption
>>156358282
>not wanting to see Daphne animated
>>156358221
today I remind them
>>156177378
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/edit#heading=h.hy3sswr3ftku
remember that this fanbase welcomes you with open arms and don't care where your browse
Last thread was just perfect. Catfaggot got assblasted cause his husbanding waifu gonna fall into not relevance. Crush x Subaru political marriage would be the shit, Rem and Emilia as concubines
>>156359235
I know right?
We finally got the harem we wanted
>>156358221
It was not successful enough to warrant one.
Summary Anon added a new chapter by the way
>>156359856
Anon-sama is doing fast work for someone who is doing translations alone
>>156360058
yea, he released chapter 132(126b) today
>>156359856
Based Translator
>>156360058
>>156360208
So this is gonna be a thing now
Whatever, summaryanon's on fire, thank you
I hope you anons realize what is happening because this
>>156360058
>>156360157
>>156360208
shit is not a good sign
>>156360313
We belong here as much as you do now fuck off
>Gone without, you cannot even wield...
Wilhelm said this in arc 5
>Witness. The victor remains I.
Priscilla. i think was also in arc 5 against sirius
>Subaru, Emilia-neesama, I know you must...
Knows Subaru and Emilia, younger than Emilia. Sounds feminine and/or young.
Petra
>To think that someone I wanted to kill...
yeah japanese think also it's Ram and is talking about Ley
>There exist feelings which musn't...
japanese fans thinks it's ferris
>...feel that you've seen your promise through?
Otto
>God I'm sorry. I'm weak and so...
subaru or garfiel maybe
>Yes... my dear grandchild...
Rom or Lewes
>I shall never perish to such nonsense...
no idea
>it's simply that I realised something...
roswaal said this in arc6
>>156360313
If you don't like it go away
We are the ones providing your people with translations anyways you are nothing without us
>>156360375
>How come... there's no soul inside!?
Some said it is Roswaal when he found that the dead body of Echidna
>Just 's promised, 'm fuckin' killin' yer!
Garfiel
>Am I being so covetous?
Anastasia or subaru
>...we must bleed ourselves...
>Resident of Sanctuary?
>Right and wrong and good and evil's...
Felt.
>...to pray for favours is hubris.
Rem
>>156360375
>I shall never perish to such nonsense as a curse!
must be Wilhelm
>>156360375
>Wilhelm said this in arc 5
>Priscilla. i think was also in arc 5 against sirius
>roswaal said this in arc6
Citations please? I don't recall any of these lines being said in story.
>There exist feelings which musn't...
>japanese fans thinks it's ferris
why? I could understand the line about the soul being Ferris but why this one?
>"...we must bleed ourselves..."
I always thought this one was Freddie because of "わたくし". I don't think any other character uses that polite form. But I'm not sure, and obviously that isn't an airtight argument.
>>156360722
On second thought yeah. That one's probably Frederica.
Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
>>156359235
>>156359272
Hahaha, so funny bros
>>156360832
You having a giggle, m8?
>>156358282
Adaption was perfect anon
>>156359235
What happened? Have a link to the thread?
>>156360350
Who is "we"?
>>156360350
Catposters must go
I stopped following re:zero threads a little while ago and was intending to catch up, wheres all this drama coming from? Is the translator anon being an attention whore or something?
>>156362072
pretty sure it's not case, baka
>>156362072
Most of the drama is DARK LORD ROUTE - Tappei officially grabbed a magnificent bucket of coke and written a story about Subaru who isn't a pussy. Poor teen was forced to loop 88 times dying to Elsa, gone itsy bitsy mad and turned villain. It's good, read it first.
>>156362713
I meant thread/poster drama not directly related to Re:Zero
>>156362731
Well, as for that - catfag being catfag (at least he actually tries to bring lulz, like that time he paid WebJesus to call Felix an angel) and pollutes threads with his wishful thinking and horrid drawings,
Haters being haters, Erufu vs Potato sperging everyday , diluted only by a little amount of intelligent discussion between witchbros, some idiot baiting every thread and others failing for that - the usual business, you missed nothing. Cheers for our content contributors as they are giving those threads the means to continue.
>>156362906
Sounds like business as usual for these threads, no idea why people seem overly triggered now.
Ferri suffers too much. But I know that he will be incredibly happy with Crusch-sama when she gets her memories back.
reading through arc 4
roswaal is kind of rude
Any chance Rem will elevate her status as something other a servant? I think she deserves better than being a maid and having to serve under the clown and Emilia.
>>156362713
where can i find this at?
google isn't helping, want to read it
>>156362713
the IF is fucking shit kys, good thing now that this never gonna happen in the main canon story
>>156358221
No, please.
>>156358221
is re zero a masterpiece?
Sekhmet: “You're not going to—haa—get a conversation out of anyone else—huu. Minerva's the only one who could manage an actual conversation here—haa—and she can't show her face to you —huu.”
Emilia: “Minerva...”
Sekhmet speaks with awful rhythm thanks to her pauses to sigh. But hearing that she offers a better conversation than the other witches makes Emilia terrified of imagining what the others are like.
But even that sentiment is overpowered by the strong feelings Emilia has for the word 'Minerva'.
Emilia: “Minerva...”
Mutters Emilia to herself as she tilts her head.
The word feels horribly nostalgic, something that would stimulate her memories. But that said,
Emilia cannot remember hearing it in any of her memories up until now, or in any of her recovered
memories either.
But it's a mysterious name, that could evoke thoughts of someone very close to her.
Oh yeah, that's her mom.
>>156363192
https://mega.nz/#!YUtlGSyT!vt1TBCW81Izy866sZ5XtlUlMWnaV8_jAulcnRMGx-gc
summary https://pastebin.com/VhGMRJvJ
>>156363342
it's not,echidna doesn't hater her
the elves killed minerva, probably this is why emilia knows her. also sirius was fighting aganst her too,
>>156363232
Found the Regulus
>>156363384
Echidna definitely 'hates' her as much as she 'hates' anyone really. They have completely philosophically opposed views. And the traits she gives Emilia shit about are shared by Minerva.
>stop coming to /rzg/ because between catfag, waifu wars, muh sekrit klub, and various other general shitposting, the cancer just wasn't worth it
>it's still the exact same after months
See you all in another few months Keep up the good work Summaryanon.
>>156363597
Thin-skinned faggot.
Reminder that chapter 126b is out, and there's a toon of cryptic shit about the future.
>>156360350
Kys.
>>156360398
Wow. Just wow.
???: <Just 's promised, 'm fuckin' killin' yer! Yeh!? NATSUKI SUBARUUUUUUUU!!>
???: <Am I being so covetous? Am Isaying anhything so indulgent? Don't anhybody die, don't
anhybody weep... what is so complikkated about it?>
???: <After all, we must bleed ourselves to our very last drop to atone, yes?>
???: <Right and wrong and good and evil's all a bunch've bullshit. You're stopping right there. Say
it's Dragon or say it's Witch, if you're blocking the way then I'm... then we're, gonna smash you.>
___________________________________
Subaru vs everyone?
>>156360398
That's not how it works, you're nothing without an audience. You're just a commodity
>???: <To think that someone I wanted to kill so much was actually a kind person, what an incredible nightmare.>
Speculation says this is maybe Ram. If it is Ram, it better not be referring to Ley.
>>156363697
>Ley
>kind person
I fail to see how.
>>156363697
Tappei said every single Bishop is completely irredeemable scum, and that's exactly how he intends people to see them as. I doubt it's Ram talking to Ley.
Gluttony is a weird authority currently, since it has 3 people, but i don't think Ley is in any way "kind".
Where is that theory coming from anyway? Or are you just saying your theory?
>>156363642
>thin skinned
There's no point coming here if it's all just shitposting and faggots drowning discussion with their inane bickering.
>>156363697
except subaru is the one who gonna kill him, Rem said that her hero gonna beat them,
>>156363686
rem confirmed ded
???: <—I believe that to pray for favours is hubris. Prayers are for when you seek forgiveness.>
—In the final world of light, a girl that Emilia has never seen awake and speaking talks.
I'd like to have a proper conversation with her, she thinks.
The sentiment proves more than enough for her deny the rejection of everything.
_____________________________
Rem? She's currently forgotten so Emilia wouldn't know her. But since it all relates to Emilia in some way, it has to be someone close right? And the whole waking up thing.
Or maybe it could be Satella?
>>156363742
There was a list of the possible people at the end of the chapter, supposedly the translators opinion + maybe general 2ch speculation and it puts that line at Ram's. Ultimately Ram doesn't actually want to actively kill very many people so I'd hope it was someone new and not the one person she really, really wants to kill right now.
>>156360313
This IS what's happening here. It happens 40-50% of the time on sites like this. The "Normie's" find it, spread the word to their Normie brethren and come in hordes.
>>156363808
What if it's Al?
>>156363808
Ram did state in a intermission chapter between arc 4 and arc 5 that she wants to brutally murder the gluttony bishop though.
Unless the current personality Ley and Ray has, is due to manipulation from Louis, who seems to be the leader of the gluttonies, then i don' think that's possible.
>>156362713
Subaru is the best car
>>156363795
Emilia has seen Rem in the coma in the early chapters of arc 4/late arc 3
>>156363832
That actually works
Maybe not Al, but whoever was responsible for burning their village down (assuming it's not Al)
>>156363847
That's what I said? There's only one person Ram would spend every effort to kill. If the speaker is Ram that makes it either a new person, or that person, and fuck that person.
>>156363832
Speaker is girly.
>To think that someone I wanted to kill...
>Feminine speaker. Probably Ram.
>>156363891
Oh, you mean directed towards. That could also be plausible if she figures it out sometime later and would be better.
>>156363790
Rem dying will make Subaru become an empty husk rather than a dark lord so I don't think so.
>>156363917
I don't think subaru will stop there, that guy is pretty resilient, he might just not care anymore and start using his abillities left and right, maybe he will get drunk with having a bit more power and begin a new path
>pic related
people take this shit to seriously, I mean you know that some of them not gonna happen right?
>>156363891
Maybe she's being really sarcastic?
>>156363788
Subaru can pretty much never beat anyone alone, and Ram really wants to help.
>>156364092
You're clearly awful at writing if you don't understand how this works. All of them will probably happen, few of them will probably stick, its the nature of RbD.
>>156364092
They're all going to happen or else they wouldn't have been written. The question is whether they happen in the final timeline or not
>>156363788
Subaru didn't beat Regulus by himself though. So it's possible that Subaru and Ram will fight and kill Ley together.
>>156364149
Subaru and Ram seems like a poor assemblage of fighters
I just want Ferri and Crusch-sama to be happy.
With each other.
Haha subaru is like my dad. He died. When will Come back?
>>156364149
exept subaru didn't cared about regulus
it was gluttony who did that to her not regulus even in the end of arc3 subaru only target was gluttony
>>156364149
He'd have to kill ley, its the set up and Pay off of the whole rem being a potato thing. That being said if rem loses her memories I'll be upset.
>>156364377
It was apparently changed in the LN but in the WN, he vowed to kill both greed and gluttony
>>156364430
nope
Turning back… Rem is still deep in her slumber.
Still softly breathing. Her heart was beating. Her body is still alive, only her memory, and her name, were eaten by a fiend.
[Subaru: Sin Archbishop Gluttony —I will absolutely annihilate you]
typesetter pls
>Beatrice: Roswaal! You're hindering my studies, you know! You should let Betty down already, I suppose!
>Roswaal: Oh no, what to do...
>Beatrice: Grrrr, you know!!!
>>156364482
Likewise, “Gluttony” and “Greed” who Subaru must one day defeat, and their followers too, must all be in the same category as well.
>>156362072
>Is the translator anon being an attention whore or something
The opposite, in fact. Pretty sure guy just wants to translate but there's some faggots going all "anon-sama".
>>156364591
Felt: Ack.
Felt: That jerk is in the mansion today, is he?
Felt: How should I get away from him this time... Odds aren't good taking him head-on.
Felt: I still haven't found any of his weaknesses...
Felt: Maybe if I made him really happy so he'd let down his guard...?
Felt: That sends a chill down yer spine... Ha.
Felt: Something that would make him happy would be
Felt: ...um,
Felt: what?
>>156364653
sound effect: thump thump thump (heartbeats)
Felt: ......
Felt: Huh!?
Felt: What am I hiding for...
Reinhard: Felt-sama.
Felt: Ah!
Felt: Gyaaaah!!
Felt: Whawhawhat the... You were just outside!
Reinhard: I felt like you were calling me.
Felt: You can hear from that far away!? I mean, I didn't say... ah.
Reinhard: I'm glad it wasn't my imagination.
Reinhard: Is something the matter?
Felt: ...... It's nothing at all, dummy!
Felt: Hurry up and go away already.
Reinhard: Yes.
sound effect: grin
>>156364686
Felt: ...what are you grinning about?
Reinhard: You called my name, didn't you.
Felt: Uh... name...?
Felt: If I needed something, I'd call, sure.
Reinhard: Indeed.
Reinhard: Please call me
Reinhard: at any time.
Felt: ...rawr!
Reinhard: Whoops.
Reinhard: I'll be there within five seconds.
Felt: That's not even funny!
>>156364591
I assume this was before he had his magic asshole torn apart by Hector, cause chapter 129 made it seem like he stopped talking to Betty and only caring about studying Echidna's books.
>>156364620
The fuck are you on about?
>>156364726
Shitposters are out for blood, just ignore them.
>>156363795
It has to be Rem because it says hiw she has never seen that girl asake and speaking.
What is it about Rem that she raises people from despair? Even Emilia.
>>156364336
They will, on their grave.
Am I retarded? I only count 16 visions?
After getting two last chapter she said there were 20 left so 4 are missing?
Did Tappei just skip them because he arbitrarily decided that 4 of them aren't gonna happen or is Emilia going to have a flashback to them in the future?
>>156364726
but why does the story try to tell us that it's not the same roswaal heck the different eye colour?
>>156365158
>heck
What? Do you mean to say that the story is trying to imply it's not the same Roswaal, and he was affected in some way by Hector?
If so i doubt it, i think it's just that only one of his golden eyes got passed down each time. Maybe it's a side effect of possessing bodies or something.
>>156364716
I fucking love Rein x Felt comics, they are some light on this abyss of darkness story
Emilia: “Minerva...”
Sekhmet speaks with awful rhythm thanks to her pauses to sigh. But hearing that she offers a better
conversation than the other witches makes Emilia terrified of imagining what the others are like.
But even that sentiment is overpowered by the strong feelings Emilia has for the word 'Minerva'.
Emilia: “Minerva...”
Mutters Emilia to herself as she tilts her head.
The word feels horribly nostalgic, something that would stimulate her memories. But that said,
Emilia cannot remember hearing it in any of her memories up until now, or in any of her recovered
memories either.
But it's a mysterious name, that could evoke thoughts of someone very close to her.
Discuss
>>156365360
>Only one eye
I bet it's even creepier - like the eye needs to be re-implanted into an eye-socket, anchoring the possession into the body. It's still that original Roswaal eye, and once it's torn out, the possessing spirit slowly leaves the body
>>156365423
I don't know how she could be Emilia's mom if she's 110'ish and the witches have been dead for longer than that.
>>156365423
I thought people were bullshitting with the possibility of Minerva being her mother.
I still doubt it though. Maybe she was just someone who was close to Emilia mother or something? I mean, i can't imagine she'd settle down to have a kid, when she has a one track mind for healing people.
Plus, she died WAY before 110 years ago, so that just feels off already.
><Does this make you feel that you've seen your promise through? If it does... if it does, then I was better off bound and dead in that cave! If I was going to see this dawn, then I should have just offed myself sooner...! Shit, shit!>
Fuck, sounds like Otto's gonna have a hard time;_;
><Just 's promised, 'm fuckin' killin' yer! Yeh!? NATSUKI SUBARUUUUUUUU!!>
Shouldn't Emilia warn Subaru about that one? It seems the most obvious of all the visions.
Though perhaps Subaru just asked Garf to kill him because everything was fucked and he couldn't commit suicide for some reason.
><It's simply that I realised something. ...That along the path up to today, I haaaaaaaaaadn't been walking alone.>
If he means up to to today literally then it must be someone from 400 years ago.
><Am I being so covetous? Am I saying anhything so indulgent? Don't anhybody die, don't anhybody weep... what is so complikkated about it?>
Wait, does Anastasia still use Kararagi while being possessed?
>>156365475
>>156365630
IIRC I think she was trapped and went mad, do we know if theres a possibility that she was found by the elves?
>>156365630
Actually now that i stop to think about it, there is another thing that doesn't hold up as well. Puck was around since 400 years ago. And he was sent away to search for Emilia since that time too, even though Emilia is SUPPOSEDLY only 12 around 100 years ago.
So what the hell is happening? Is there a reason why Satella looks like Emilia? Maybe Satella somehow manipulated Minerva's pregnancy, or something. The Elves tried to killed her and probably made the trap the fell into, and Puck was already searching for Emilia.
If so, why is Emilia so young? Maybe she was put into a stasis or something?
>>156365908
>Maybe she was put into a stasis or something?
Or chucked into the future.
>>156365908
Maybe her mana control was horrible as a baby and she ended up freezing herself for 300 years?
>>156365908
>>156365976
>>156365948
Minerva being Emilia's daughter? are you guys on meth or something?
>>156365976
We know Bete has been around for 400 years, could it be that puck lied about Emilia being frozen for 100 only?
>>156366053
Read >>156365423, it's from the newest chapter.
If not the mother, then i don't know why she would randomly feel such fondness for the name.
>>156366080
>Roswaal: “The first freezing of Elior Forest, and its subsequent spreading is now recorded as an event from over 90 years ago. It is a world of absolute zero which freezes all, which freezes every living creature. —She lived in that world, all by herself.”
Not that I trust either Puck or Roswaal but if it's recorded it should be easy to find out otherwise
>>156366243
There is so much witch fuckery going on that I don't know anymore
>>156363781
>who gives a fuck about reddit anyways if they want to come here and chat then let them chat
This is the part where you say you were joking
>>156366053
You got it backwards, It's Minerva who would be the mother.
Her long, sleek hair is white as frost. Her cheeks and neck, what areas of skin are visible, possess
the beauty of virgin snow. Emilia's breathing near hitches before her stunning visage.
Her beautiful form is garbed in perfectly black raiment, with not a single superfluous colour
present, the dress-like vestment crafted to her in miraculous concord.
A beautiful woman who can be described with the two hues 'white' and 'black'.
True beauty—the utter lack of need for any superfluous accessories—would probably feel terror
when faced with this black and white countenance.
Emilia: “She's beautiful...”
Emilia's thoughts escape her lips.
Emilia would find another strikingly beautiful woman if she looked in the mirror, but her sentiments
have nothing to do with that.
She is simply so enraptured by the beauty of this thing before her that she is absolutely moved.
__________________________
I guess this is where this comic takes inspiration from?
>>156365787
she got killed by the elves,
>>156364170
Its hard to imagine them killing Ley when they couldn't even beat mabeats and the minotaur. Or, I don't know, perhaps the healing room inside the tower would give its huge amount of mana to Ram and allow her to unleash her power and kill Ley or something.
>>156364653
>>156364686
>>156364716
>>156366195
You don't have be related to someone to feel familiarly with them. Had Emilia met Pete in the final timeline and weren't in battle she probably would have felt the same way.
Maybe Emilia is channeling Satella's memories in some way since they still share a connection to each other that much Echidna and Pandora seem certain about.
>>156364625
In the LN Subaru doesn't even know Greed was there since literally everyone in that battle was either amnesiac or dead.
So, another chapter was released? I'm going to have to play some catch up.
Anyhow, I didn't notice there being all that much special about the Arc 3 negotiations in the WN, or the preparation for them. There was some more detail and hand holding with Rem. A bit of talk about how she was trying to negotiate an alliance with Crusch on her own, but couldn't manage it with the authority she was given.
Rem didn't actually do much in those scenes. During the negotiations, Subaru tried to trick her into associating the phone with how he knew about the demon dogs in Arc 2, since she still hadn't figured that out, so she could confirm she believed it was a witchbeast detector for Crusch without lying. The plan works, but it's obviously only because Rem caught on to what Subaru was trying, since she uses blatant doublespeak to imply she believes Subaru's BS without ever actually saying she does.
>>156366953
thx
>>156366985
>The plan works, but it's obviously only because Rem caught on to what Subaru was trying, since she uses blatant doublespeak to imply she believes Subaru's BS without ever actually saying she does.
Kek that's even better
>Anyhow, I didn't notice there being all that much special about the Arc 3 negotiations in the WN, or the preparation for them
How much discussion did they show before the negotiations?
>>156367170
I'm starting to think the whole "more detailed" negotiations was kind of bullshit.
>>156366985
Rem so based. What's with the hand holding? Is this past from zero?
>>156366953
There's no good in running. He can hear your thoughts. He smells your fear. Your own mind betrays you. He knows no weariness. You are as visible to him as in a broad daylight. Don't try fighting him under the sun, thought, for sun favours him over you.
>>156367312
>hand holding
Wilhelm must have hated Subaru so much until Subaru helped him kill the whale.
>>156367431
Why? Because he was being close to Rem? I don't think he is salty about other couples at all.
>reading
>>156367494
Because Subaru wasn't being faithful to Emilia and already showed signs of being a two timer.
>>156367532
has nothing to do with Wilhelm, dunno why he should hate Subaru for that, it's not like Emilia is his wife or even gf
>>156367170
>Kek that's even better
Well she brought up Subaru's early response to the dogs, and Crusch asked her if she noticed if the phone was involved. Rem just said it was too good to just be intuition. Rem never actually says a single word about the phone.
So we can tell from this that Rem has thought about how Subaru knows what he does, and noticed something odd about it.
>How much discussion did they show before the negotiations?
Not much that I especially recall. I could look back at it again to clarify some details.
>>156367312
Yes, it's past From Zero. He holds her hand to steady his nerves, so he's pretty much holding her hand throughout most of the negotiations.
>>156367582
Wilhelm gave him some disapproving talk when he saw them holding hands in a previous loop.
>>156367582
Subaru and Wilhelm did have a little talk about the girl they love most respectively, didn't they? Wilhelm must have thought Emilia was Subaru's girlfriend the whole time so chances are he would be disgusted by how Subaru was being intimate with Rem.
>>156367170
To be honest, seeing through Subaru gambit it's not something really special when consider the only people he fooled with that where were those who didn't know him long enough to realize how rather ridiculous for him suddenly have demon beast detector all this time.
>>156367690
what did wilhelm say?
>>156367690
>I could look back at it again to clarify some details.
At least the mining rights should come off as less random I hope
>>156367733
I don't think an old man would care about a teenager's romance. He can give him advice but not hate him or being disgusted by that. That's unreasonable.
>>156367739
He was relying on it answering questions about how he knew what he did.
>>156367891
Rem was already negotiating over mining rights, but Crusch needed something more to convince her to make the alliance.
>>156367858
In the previous loop, he made a comment about Subaru's fickle heart and how he was disappointed, but felt he shouldn't have expected any better from someone his age.
So far, exactly no one seems to have bought the "we're just friends" explanation in any loop, an explanation that looks even more ridiculous when Subaru is holding her hand and blushing in front of everyone in the latest one.
>>156368010
He cares though. That's why he even rooted for Emilia romance in episode 25.
>>156368250
Rem was erased at that time already. Can't say he was rooting for Emilia.
>>156368296
Really, it is kind of hard to tell how differently people would react if they remembered. I imagine Wilhelm would be slightly put off.
>>156368187
Nobody thinks he's just friends with Emilia either it seems. i.e Crusch teases Subaru about his relationship with Emilia by saying she might get request for marriage and when Wilhelm was on the highway helping Subaru get to Emilia he said to he wasn't going to let the Cult stop a "man from seeing the woman he loved". There also Ram's encouragement to Emilia about Subaru's feelings for her.
So I don't know, I think everyone aware what kind of relationship the 3 have at the moment. Or at least acknowledge Subaru has feeling for the 2 of them.
>>156368494
Well, the Crusch conversation wasn't in the WN. Still, of course everyone knows he has feelings for Emilia, which is why they all imply he's cheating on her.
>>156368296
Rem's erasure wouldn't affect how people perceive his feelings for Emilia though because that all came about from actions that didn't involve Rem.
>>156368586
Reminder that these boys are going to have the worst time of their life once Garf does the deed
>>156368610
What do you mean? Petra's perception of Subaru did change after Rem got erased. Chances are Wilhelm's memories of Rem got replaced with Emilia.
>>156368610
I'm pretty sure people perceive the feelings of a blatant two-timer differently from someone whose feelings are devoted to a single person.
>>156368586
Given that LN is the canon, I don't that's gonna matter much here. Still that scene was there partly to give a voice to what some people were thinking.
And Wilhelm's comment's in that fail loop isn't LN afaik so probably doesn't even matter anymore. "shrug"
>>156368398
>Subaru risked his life saving Emilia and saying he loved her.
>ended up loving Rem more.
Wilhelm would lose his shit.
>>156368706
>Chances are Wilhelm's memories of Rem got replaced with Emilia.
That's impossible. Emilia wasn't there to be holding Subaru's hand. The thing is, erasing Rem erases any doubts Wilhelm would have about the purity of Subaru's intentions.
>>156368782
>Given that LN is the canon, I don't that's gonna matter much here.
The LN is canon to the LN. The WN is canon to the WN. Since we're going to be reading through Arc 4 and 5 of the WN, these are the scenes that are canon to the story we're reading.
How far along is the manga or novel or whatever it is? Last I checked it was behind the anime but I may've been looking in the wrong places.
>>156368798
of course it doesn't make sense. Same with how Ram was able to maintain the mansion all by herself even though Rem did 80% of the work. My point is that Wilhelm doesn't remember Subaru and Rem together and he thinks that Emilia is his only interest. Saying that he was rooting for Emilia in ep 25 is just ignorant.
>>156368706
Petra already like Suabru from Arc 2 onwards. Rem's erasure only speculated to intensify that. Petra and Rem don;t intent with eachother in either in the main and side stories so how her disappearance affected anything there is up the air. So it's not a good example.
>>156368758
Nobody has called him a two timer tho. And Hell the people who do know he has feelings for two people (Echidna, Betty and Felix) don't seem to care at all. Rem's is one not let anything go, so the story puts onus on her.
>>156368909
Did Tappei ever comment on LN and WN canon?
>>156368930
The Light novel was behind, it's farther ahead by now
The original web novel the LN is based on is years ahead of both of them
New manga chapter comes out in 2 days. But when do the raws?
>>156368962
>Nobody has called him a two timer tho.
Mr.Savepoint and Wilhelm both commented on it, but felt it was really none of their business. After she gets coma'd, and they become aware of this fact, everyone probably figures it'd be in poor taste to comment on the matter.
>>156368962
>Rem and Petra don't intent with eachother
I'm not sure what you mean by that ESL, but Rem and Petra did talk to each other and before Rem got erased Petra didn't jump next to Subaru on spot like she did in the carriage.
>>156368909
LN and WN follow the same story with few minor differences between them. So when the WN ends the LN will also end the same way only with adjustments. So bringing minute differences is going to be rote in front of the bigger picture. It's not trio's relationship has changed in the LN either.
>>156368939
Even if Rem wasn't erased, Wilhelm would still root for Emilia romance because that man despises cheating.
>>156368586
It's funny how Mimi is the same age as Gaaf.
>>156369247
Wilhelm doesn't roor for anyone. He has no reasons at all to root for Emilia. He just doesn't like how Subaru behaves in that regard.
>>156363378
>Making full use of all three, Betelgeux had been the very picture of his beloved 'diligence' as he attempted to corner Emilia. Downing him had truly been a back-breaking effort.
>In fact it took Subaru over four hundred runs of trial and error to get here.
This man is broken.
>>156369138
>but Rem and Petra did talk to each other and before Rem got erased Petra didn't jump next to Subaru on spot like she did in the carriage.
?
1)Saying a couple words together hardly counts as relationship.
2) Petra wrote she loved him on his cask.
Like I said her feelings might have strengthen, but they where already there to begin with. Rem didn't even know Petra like Subaru did which is why she didn't even give a shit about her when she was in danger. Any relationship Rem and Petra had together isn't expand much on, unlike say Frederica and Petra who have the whole big sis, little sis dynamic going on.
>>156369215
It all depends on what you consider to be minor. From what I've seen, Subaru himself is pretty significantly different. As is the portrayal of events later in the story. There are plenty of things we wouldn't be able to discuss if we just used the LN's portrayal of events.
>>156369413
>Rem didn't even know Petra like Subaru did which is why she didn't even give a shit about her when she was in danger
are you talking about arc 2? you know that Petra started to like Subaru after that whole mabeast incident?
>why she didn't even give a shit about her when she was in danger.
Rem protected the kids in arc 3 while Emilia ran away. Rem does care about Petra especially after her birthday.
However, I won't respond to your bs anymore, esl. We all know that you didn't read the story.
>>156369419
The only things wouldn't be able to discuss would be deleted loops, that aren't even referenced in future WN arcs in anymore and things that were revealed early on in the WN, but push back later in LN.
So I don't see the real difficulty about talking about them together in general beyond being pedantic. This isn't like ShieldBro.
Stop posting that shitty fanfic
>>156369664
There are lots of scenes and things we wouldn't be able to discuss, because significant details were changed. We wouldn't be able to discuss Subaru's personality the same way, because his personality is different. We couldn't speculate on what the fuck is up with Puck, because it seems that was changed halfway through.
>>156369625
>are you talking about arc 2? you know that Petra started to like Subaru after that whole mabeast incident?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Which is why Rem's presence had minimal impact on her feelings for Subaru. You might have forgotten, but even when Rem was around Subaru still got all the credit for saving the villagers, he was basically know as hero at that point. Which is important because nobody expected much out of him then and he wouldn't have been able to convince the villagers to evacuate in arc 3 without that trust. Tappei wouldn't write all that there if he attribute all that to Rem and she Petra would interacted way more than then they did.
Angelo on the Re:Zero wiki admin also verified this when I asked him since he read the WN and LN.
>Rem protected the kids in arc 3 while Emilia ran away. Rem does care about Petra especially after her birthday.
...Rem never met the kids in arc 3. She never makes it back to the vilalge in any of the loops. Emilia was the one who protected the kids in arc 3. It's also canon that Subaru introduced her to them during their date (as he said he would) and it was made a point that one of her few connections with villagers. As a result Petra and the kids were the only ones who believe her warning instead of going "muh elf racism" . Emilia has also talked more than once or twice.
I don't know what you mean by birthday, but Rem really was going to leave the kids to die which is not beyond her to do. Go watch episode 9 again and see fro yourself.
>However, I won't respond to your bs anymore, esl. We all know that you didn't read the story.
That's ironic since your the one who's pulling up stuff that never happened.
>>156370135
>...Rem never met the kids in arc 3. She never makes it back to the vilalge in any of the loops.
You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. I haven't read the LN scenes, but it's specifically pointed out that the damage to the village is much worse in the loop where Rem never got there. In the loop where she did get there, Rem is dead in front of a shed full of dead children, while Emilia is dead inside of the escape tunnels.
>>156370038
Nothing significantly has been changed about Subaru. He's less of an asshole and stupid at the beginning of the story, but that is it.
I'm not sure how you can say Tappei changed anything about Puck when he has shown up since Petelgeuse fight. You just can't speculate much about him at all because those details haven't been revealed in the LN at that point not because Tappei changed those details. Not to mention much of those details arr still vague as of this point.
>>156370135
>Which is important because nobody expected much out of him then and he wouldn't have been able to convince the villagers to evacuate in arc 3 without that trust.
Which also happened after Rem was erased, and Subaru himself speculates that made him look all the more impressive in their eyes.
Jesus people, please stop giving that ESL attention and shitting up the thread.
Wasn't Minerva Satella's best friend before she went full Envy?
>>156370337
>but that is it.
There are quite a few differences other than that.
>>156370135
Why do you keep making things up?
This shit was even in the anime for god's sake.
A beautiful woman of black and white.
That would be someone she met in the castle of dreams, the WITCH OF GREED.
In the depths of the tomb, waiting there beyond the defeat of the WITCH OF GREED's trials is,
Emilia: “She looks like Echidna... but who is she?”
A woman reminiscent of the Thirst for Knowledge Incarnate, but who Emilia has never seen before.
Wait, wasn't that Echidna?
Kek, just read the Dark Lord Subaru AU.
All I can say is "VIIIIICTORYYYYYYYY"
>>156370454
Emilia is being dumb, I'd guess. Or there's certain differences between physical Dona and spirit Dona.
>>156370269
Actually, I had forogetten about loop 1, but considering we only see the the aftermath, you can't say what she did other than fighting the cult.
>Rem is dead in front of a shed full of dead children
That was Ram. Ram was also the one found dead with Petra in loop 1. IIRC Suabru doesn't even check the shed in loop 1 nor do we see any of the kids bodies.
>I haven't read the LN scenes, but it's specifically pointed out that the damage to the village is much worse in the loop where Rem never got there
No it isnt? Everyone slaughtered with no survivors with or without her.
>>156369345
>He has no reasons at all to root for Emilia.
Subaru and Emilia are sorta like Wilhelm and Thearesia back in the day, as in knight and lady romance kind of stuff. So it makes sense why Wilhelm will want to help Subaru win over Emilia's heart and end up with her.
>>156370562
that's just shallow and superficial, stop making Wilhelm look bad.
>>156370360
Yeah, I pointed that's it just a theory he came up with. It's not iron clad. Subaru wasn't even aware that Petra had crush on him for the end of arc 2.
>>156370508
>No it isnt? Everyone slaughtered with no survivors with or without her.
That's true, but the WN specifically points out everything looks worse.
>>156370508
>That was Ram. Ram was also the one found dead with Petra in loop 1.
That might have been true in the anime, but it doesn't seem to be the case in either the WN or LN. Ram was placed in bed by Rem, with funeral makeup applied.
Rem was the one dead in front of the shed. That's why she was in the garden. Stop talking like you know anything if you're just relying on how the anime depicted it.
>>156370439
But I am getting my points from the anime. Asking are you getting your points like this:
>but it's specifically pointed out that the damage to the village is much worse in the loop where Rem never got there
Where the fuck was this said or pointed out anywhere in the anime? This not something was mentioned even among anyone who watched episode 14 and 15. Every person died just as badly as they did before.
>>156370617
In fairness, I'm pretty sure Wilhelm would able to tell if someone bullshitting about their feelings or not. Subaru has noted that Wilhelm can read him like a book due to experience.
>>156370617
I doubt he sees Theresia in Emilia. Rather than actually shipping them I think he just cares for Subaru so he naturally wants him to succeed
>>156370883
>Where the fuck was this said or pointed out anywhere in the anime?
Read the fucking novel.
>>156370883
>animeonlyfag
>>156370883
>Where the fuck was this said or pointed out anywhere in the anime?
It'S from the WN. There's an anon who has been reading the WN Arc 2 and 3 for some while. Did you miss him?
>>156370494
PRAISE THE DARK LORDIronically, this is the only chapter in which Subarun had died happily.Also I remind you that there is an fanmade animated version of Ayamatsu IF with subs: https://wolfgirl.org/pub/ReZero_Ayamatsu.mkv
>>156370906
>I doubt he sees Theresia in Emilia.
That's why I'm saying that that anon's claim is absurd. Wilhelm doesn't know Emilia, his memories of Rem who played a big role in revenging Theresia got erased and Subaru is not a knight at this point but a butler. Saying that he would root for Emilia is just dumb and delusional. Like you said, he just cares about Subaru especially after the fight and wants him to succeed.
>>156369678
Prepare your house
>>156370906
>Subaru being committed to Emilia like Wilhelm is to Theresia.
>Subaru being weak but still trying to be stronger to be worthy of Emilia, like how Wilhelm did to win Theresia.
>Subaru and Emilia having a fight but Subaru still worked hard to win over Emilia's heart again, like how Wilhelm did after Theresia despised him.
>>156371002
Why does Satella release him from his RbD torment? Do we even know?
>>156371139
>to be worthy of Emilia
kek, yeah for Emilia.
>>156371199
Looks like Satella does not want him to actually suffer.IIRC It's implied that IF Subaru dies satisfied and not frustrated, and instead of running away from shadow figure in his mindworlds welcoms her, he dies forevermore.
>>156371139
Well, in this case he's only really projecting on Subaru rather than Emilia anyway. I doubt he would liken Emilia to Theresia just cause Suzuki is like him.
So I would still say it's less the actual pairing and more just Toyota.
Christ, let's stop this for now and wait for Arc 5, I heard Wil gets some good spotlight there anyway
>>156370668
>That's true, but the WN specifically points out everything looks worse.
I didn't know that, but for result doesn't seem to have matter. All means that had an extra fighter. Subaru could have prolonged things a little too, but everything is still burnt and destroyed.
>That might have been true in the anime, but it doesn't seem to be the case in either the WN or LN. Ram was placed in bed by Rem, with funeral makeup applied.
Well, I'm going by the anime here.
>Rem was the one dead in front of the shed. That's why she was in the garden. Stop talking like you know anything if you're just relying on how the anime depicted it
Yes, in loop 1. But all that called attention to is the cultist she killed, before presumably killed herself. There may have been some kids in the shed in both versions.
That aside, Rem relationship with children or really the village at all isn't expand on. We don't' really know if she hates or likes them. The only notable people in her life where the mansion residents. Her protecting some of children isn't all that strange either since she stated to Subaru she also incharge of security in Roswaal's territory. So even if she didn't have much relationship with villagers she would protect as Ram did, because they are part of their lords territory. As Ram said, it would relfect badly on Roswaal if they didn't do that.
>>156371304
>We don't' really know if she hates or likes them
>――Thus, if the kids ever needed something, Rem would do everything in her hands to pay them back with all her might.
Those thoughts and feelings of happiness continued to be in her chest throughout Rem’s Blessing Day.
Fuck you, ESL. You don't know shit about re:zero. Now fuck off.
>>156371289
>Well, in this case he's only really projecting on Subaru rather than Emilia anyway
Either way, he still roots for Emilia romance.
>>156371262
Wait, so the very reason he suffers is his own fault? I know I'm bringing back a very old theory but could it just happen he is the very reason behind his own curse back in the first iteration of Lugunica where he died with Emilia in the shed?
>>156371304
>Well, I'm going by the anime here.
The whole Petra Gluttony stuff is WN only, why would you suddenly concentrate on the anime?
If you're not up to date with the WN discussion yet, catch up and then come back
>>156370507
It's pretty clear that Echidna's physical body is different. She had just talked to her before the trials started, so she'd remember her.
>>156371368
I guess. It's just in the most roundabout way possible but whatever.
On another note, anyone have any ideas for
><God I'm sorry. I'm weak and so this. God I'm sorry. I couldn't make the kill, god I'm sorry. Now ▒▒▒ will always be alone forever. God I'm sorry for being so weak...>
Who fucked up here?
>>156371199
Probably because he finally wanted to remain dead.
Oh, one thing to comment on about From Zero, since I noticed some idiots didn't catch this deal in the anime. Subaru very specifically avoids telling her anything about what's going on, because he knows Rem is going to rush back to help everyone if she knew. So Natsuki Rem didn't really abandon everyone, so much as Subaru tricked her into abandoning everyone and took her too far away for her to make it back to the manor.
>>156371304
>Well, I'm going by the anime here.
Well then, we aren't discussing the same story.
>Yes, in loop 1. But all that called attention to is the cultist she killed
Because we're obviously discussing two different versions of events. In the WN, it's clearly emphasized that Rem died protecting the children, and kept fighting even after her arm got torn off. It's one of the reasons why Subaru feels guilty after she dies trying to save him. He feels her efforts would have been better spent on the children, like they were in the last loop.
>>156370372
That's pretty much implied by they way she talked to her at the 3rd Tea-Party. She also very defensive when came to Satella's feelings here and keep urging Subaru to talk to her.
>>156370507
What Emilia is pointing out is that body here looks like Echidna, but there significant difference in her appearance here. The wiki points out that Echidna's physical body looks much older, so Emilia is probably confuse why her spirit looks younger.
>>156371539
>▒▒▒
Does this mean it's Rem?
>>156371613
It's blank to not give away who it is. Rem would be too obvious so it's probably not her.
>>156371613
You would think so, but "forever alone" doesn't feel like it really describes Rem's state (someone correct me if Subaru uses that wording later on).
So I would go with >>156371668
>>156371742
Subaru could be desperate about not being able to bring himself to kill Ley and release Rem's soul in that scene or something.
>>156371382
Having watched the anime doesn't prevent me from reading Arc 4.
The Petra-Gluttony stuff isn't touch upon until after the anime anyway.
>>156371581
>Well then, we aren't discussing the same story.
Hyperbole. It's same story with somethings left out.
>ecause we're obviously discussing two different versions of events. In the WN, it's clearly emphasized that Rem died protecting the children, and kept fighting even after her arm got torn off. It's one of the reasons why Subaru feels guilty after she dies trying to save him. He feels her efforts would have been better spent on the children, like they were in the last loop.
Even that is that case it's not same claiming it's not the same story. Subaru feels guilty because he got her killed over his selfishness, not because she defended kids. There small minute details that don't actually change the main point of how he feels. He never expected her or anyone else to die to begin with.
>>156371833
>Not being able to bring himself to kill Ley
He is more than willing to kill him, the problem is that he's weak, so he could simply fail miserably, or not do it fast enough because of certain circumstances that require him to kill under a certain time limit.
>>156371886
>Hyperbole. It's same story with somethings left out.
You had a completely different impression of a character than I did, because you saw different scenes than I read. You even accused me of making shit up.
>>156371886
Just go back to vsbattles where you came from
>>156370562
not really it's subaru and Rem heck Rem wants to fight subaru like wilhelm did with theresia because she is a big fan of the love story
>>156371953
Subaru would be more than willing to kill Ley, he was able to bring himself to kill Petelgeuse.
I have a feeling it might be about Satella.
>>156372422
Or maybe even Emilia herself, if we're going the time-parallel route.
>>156372419
I don't think she wants to fight him, she simply finds the story to be super romantic. What she'd want is a "epic" story with the one she loves.
Basically what's happening to her right now.
>>156372419
I don't think any of them are a clear parallel.
>>156372681
Yeah, but I don't think she wanted the lead role of Sleeping Beauty.
>all these years
>We STILL don't know jack shit about Emilia being actually Satella and why was Subaru brought there
Ahahahah nips just make shit up as they go, and hope you don't notice
See: puck getting retconned
Unbelievable that you guys lap this shit up like it's honey
>>156369413
Subaru: Rem, you really love this. As of now, I’m not so absorbed in Liliana’s song that it overwhelms me, but if I listen to it until the end, then my thoughts might change.]
[Rem: Yes, they sure will. The sword demon’s way of life is the ideal way for many men and women, even today. Subaru-kun, please come and see me someday just like in the sword demon love song.]
[Subaru: If the spoilers I heard were true, then wouldn’t that mean Rem and I would kill each other in the end?]
While replying, Subaru loosens his lips upon seeing Rem having her cheeks blush slightly because of her excitement.
>>156372896
wrong post >>156372681
>>156372896
Rem was kidding, just one of her bad jokes. She wants to die peacefully like she described in 'from zero'.
>>156372889
>Figuring out the main twist in the middle of the story
Arc 6 is supposed to be around the halfway point. Major twists are build up since early on, and hinted at along the way, and not revealed until near the end if it happens to be the main mystery.
It's basic writing.
Where the fuck do i get the ln?
>>156373007
Well, Subaru has the wrong idea about how the story ends, and Rem isn't correcting him.
>>156373038
Too much credit.
Anon is right about nip writers, sadly.
>>156373078
You can download them.
>>156373038
>Major twists are build up since early on
I think that's the problem in a story of that length. We're given so much time to theorize that nothing will be that surprising and and will end up as a huge disappointment.
>>156372027
If you're having moodwhiplash like impressions of characters over small differences that says more about you than the story.
My impression overall isn't very different from yours unless you have strong bias that bends the interpretation of various scenes towards what you want to believe.
None of version of have Rem had spending any significant time with kids so, she wouldn't be more than acquaintance with them. Their relatioships with her aren't really important to the narrative and Petra's situation is mostly between her and Subaru no one else. It will probably come to resolution by Subaru's hand.
Furthermore Subaru and by a small extension Emilia are only ones important there and for later because they don't harbor prejudices to her. So until after Arc 4 they were only people Emilia could talk to besides the mansion residents. They're pretty much the only friends she had besides Subaru at that point.
>>156373193
see>>156371361
Can you just stop making up shit for once?
>>156373158
where tho?
>>156373246
Sites where you download stuff illegally
>>156368586
>which is why they all imply he's cheating on her.
Of course the nobles would root for Emilia as opposed to the filthy pleb and servant. Who would event want to root for that maid to be honest?
>>156373363
you can't come up with better bait? Really?
>>156369413
read next time the story
Even though having seen it for himself Subaru couldn't believe there were many people who would be shocked if he was wounded.
And when he'd previously convinced himself that the human called Natsuki Subaru was isolated,
complete in himself, a worthless existence for anyone, incapable of having any impact on other's
emotions. Just when did he gain so many people who would be angry for him?
It was from the achievement during the witchbeast commotion, was how he had bragged before, but in reality Subaru hadn't done anything that big.
Rem was the one who saved the children in the forest, and Rem was also the one who hunted down most of the witchbeasts afterwards. Roswaal was the one who exterminated them. There shouldn't be a single instant where Subaru's achievements stood out.
Subaru: “...Ah, so that's what it is.”
Thinking that far, Subaru perceives the truth he had bottled thus far.
Rem, whose existence and memories were eaten from the world by GLUTTONY's power. The only placed she remained anymore was inside Subaru, only her empty vessel remaining in the world.
The vestiges of her, the evidence of her, the memories of her were vanished and vanishing.
So what happened to events that occurred because of her actions?
—Most likely, everything she had done would be credited to other people, revising peoples'consciousness to make each scene into its most reasonable form.
Subaru: “The people saved by Rem's actions are aiming their gratitude for her at me.”
Meaning that although unconsciously, Subaru again had been resting on Rem's laurels as if it were natural.
>>156373178
I mean, I was outright spoiled that Roswaal was the mastermind and I still got suckerpunched when the reveal included putting his bare hand through Ram when I least expected it
>>156373193
Why do you want lecture him on the differences between the anime and WN when you have only watched one of these things and he has experienced both?
Where in the world does this certainty/confidence of yours come from?
Thinking about it, that Petra was so unconditionally attached to Subaru was likely because the existence who had risked their life pulling her out of a forest of witchbeasts, had been retroactively made to be him.
If not, then how could she have so much faith in a stranger of suspicious appearance and origin,
who she had only interacted with a short while?
Stop replying to the redditor
>>156373466
Is there anything wrong with what I said? Crusch and everyone are from the nobility so of course they would think a servant trying to make Subaru cheat on another noble like Emilia is bad.
>>156373663
>Is there anything wrong with what I said?
Yes, like everything. I mean if you aren't baiting then you're just a retard who thinks that Crusch and so give any fucks about Emilia.
>>156373560
They interacted for at least a month and half and he was super friendly and did a lot of fun stuff involving the village too, like the snow festival. She got to get fairly familiar with him.
She probably had a crush on him by that point, and after Rem was erased it got even stronger.
>>156373663
>a servant trying to make Subaru cheat on another noble like Emilia is bad.
Subaru is also a servant and people discriminate Emilia or are indifferent about her if you missed that point. Crusch for example doesn't give any fucks about Emilia and her reputation like you saw in ep 16.
>>156373525
Well, speaking of differences, the WN has a way of connecting moments together that you might have otherwise forgotten about. Like when Rem says she'll always be behind Subaru, before jumping out to try to hold off the whale. That was a callback to Subaru telling her to just stay behind him, because he was scared she'd get killed again.
The general course of events is the same, but if that's all you cared about you might as well read a summary.
Ask this: if re zero had a cast full of emilias, would it be good? The answer is a re-sounding no. How ever, a cast full of Rems would break anime.
Theres your best girl arguement.
>>156373920
A cast full of Rems would be weird as fucking hell.
>>156373920
>>156373950
>Cast full of waifubaits
Oh god.
>>156373920
A cast full of nothing but the same archetype of character would be boring as fuck no matter how good the character itself is.
>>156373920
>How ever, a cast full of Rems would break anime.
Rem can't work without neesama and Subaru.
>>156373920
Re:zero would be so much more enjoyable without dumb elves
>>156373737
>>156373837
>Crusch and so give any fucks about Emilia.
But they thought Subaru was cheating on Emilia. And Wilhelm was disgusted by it too.
>>156374009
So far, Rem hasn't exactly been put into position to bounce off many other characters. Personally, I think she works well enough with Garf, Freddie, and Roswaal, though all in different ways.
>>156374207
>But they thought Subaru was cheating on Emilia. And Wilhelm was disgusted by it too.
No?
>>156374207
Making a passing comment about him clearly holding some sort of feeling for Rem as well due to his age is not really hating him, it's more like "come on, don't cheat. You're still young so it's understandable, so don't do that".
Everyone knows he cares about Emilia. But i don't think they're exactly rooting for him, at least not by that point. Maybe after he redeems himself, they might want to cheer him on, but whoever his chooses it's his business.
>>156374207
anon, how old are you? ´What's the deal with Emiliafags being that retarded? Are you guys all underage or simply stupid?
>>156371361
>>156373236
Sooo you basically pull out a sidestory that many haven't even read that isn't part of the WN and LN act all high and might about? Are seriously hat fucking desperate? This doesn't change my point especially not something happened retroactively.
You could at least post a scene of the kids conversing with her numerous times instead of just one line.
>>156374360
>saying cheating is good.
>>156374274
>Making a passing comment about him clearly holding some sort of feeling for Rem as well due to his age is not really hating him, it's more like "come on, don't cheat. You're still young so it's understandable, so don't do that".
That was basically it. Wilhelm wasn't disgusted at all, just a little disappointed.
From an outside perspective it looks like Subaru started clinging to Rem for comfort on the rebound from his rejection by Emilia. From an inside perspective, that's also pretty much exactly right.
>>156365118
Its an approximate number to begin with, but the things the audience is presented with are pretty piecemeal, the narration implies there were more she was looking over and the scenes were longer. Obviously she can see who's speaking most of the time, the narration is just being coy about it.
>>156374414
>We don't' really know if she hates or likes them
>Rem says she would help the kids
>Rem protects the children
>We don't know what Rem thinks about them!! >This is all irrelevant because the anime didn't show it!
>>156374274
Actually instead of cheating i should have said it was more like "Don't jump to another girl, make amends with Emilia instead of giving up" or something like that i'd guess.
>>156374452
Oh, thanks for confirming my point. You guys are actually not capable of text comprehension.
Question. Does anyone have those Rem awoo faces?
>>156374571
Oh the irony.
>>156373480
>read next time the story
I did, how else could I say what I'm saying?
>Rem was the one who saved the children in the forest, and Rem was also the one who hunted down most of the witchbeasts afterwards. Roswaal was the one who exterminated them. There shouldn't be a single instant where Subaru's achievements stood out.
Subaru down playing own his achievement post From Zero isn't new. He's also call himself worthless even despite the disagreements that Rem, Emilia and even Wilhelm have said. So using a biased viewpoint doesn't mean anything.
Rem has also contradicted his first statement by saying it was him saved the kids in the forest not her. Though in reality it was both of them. Rem hunted down most of dogs, but she almost died for it if not for Subaru and Ram's intervention.
>>156374608
Awoo faces? Dunno what you mean but in case you mean this.
Why are people responding to ESL again? His entire point this time is that the anime is the most accurate source even when discussing the WN/LN. Its literally fucking retarded.
>>156374720
Do you have the closed mouth one that's on that chinese food stand?
>>156374720
That's the one. I needed it for a reverse image search to find this one.
>>156374844
I do now.
>>156374414
>Sooo you basically pull out a sidestory that many haven't even read
>Rem's erasure only speculated to intensify that. Petra and Rem don;t intent with eachother in either in the main and side stories
>in either in the main and side stories
ESL, you're just scum.
>???: <To think that someone I wanted to kill so much was actually a kind person, what an incredible nightmare.>
Lets see. This is at the very least ominous. If Ram is the speaker then I wonder who she's trying to kill so hard?
>???: <Does this make you feel that you've seen your promise through? If it does... if it does, then I
was better off bound and dead in that cave! If I was going to see this dawn, then I should have just offed myself sooner...! Shit, shit!>
Otto having a bad day, I wonder what promise he's referring to though?
>???: <God I'm sorry. I'm weak and so this. God I'm sorry. I couldn't make the kill, god I'm sorry.
Now ▒▒▒ will always be alone forever. God I'm sorry for being so weak...>
Also spooky and ominous. Emilia helping out with her amazing knife-ears by missing the name.
>???: <It's simply that I realised something. ...That along the path up to today, I haaaaaaaaaadn't been walking alone.>
Obviously Roswaal, but is this a bad thing, or did someone manage to stick him with a friendship speech?
>???: <Just 's promised, 'm fuckin' killin' yer! Yeh!? NATSUKI SUBARUUUUUUUU!!>
So there's multiple scenarios that can set this up. I'm thinking maybe Subaru was planning to do something dumb and had Garfiel as back up and that dumb thing probably happened?
Is this going to be another nekoRem doujin?
>>156375123
Actually my entire thoughts during this thing were 'Emilia! What do your elf eyes see!?' although obviously that would ruin the surprise for most of this cock teasing bullshit.
>>156373525
>Why do you want lecture him on the differences between the anime and WN when you have only watched one of these things and he has experienced both?
Where in the world does this certainty/confidence of yours come from?
I didn't say, I had only watched the anime. I read the manga too.
Besides that its' because things he pointed out are so minor that Tappei doesn't even bother to bring up again. For that matter I've read the manga adaptations which are closer to LN and WN they parent much difference .
Just because I'm disagreement doesn't mean I'm lecturing anyone. Not even taking the anime into account the LN, WN and manga are all approved by Tappei so trying pull some purist non sense here is rather delusional. One of the main points about the LN, and manga is that you don't need to read the WN understand anything. Everything you need know anything can also be found in those mediums and if certain details from the WN didn't make it then that means their aren't all important or some them will come up again
>>156373920
What kind of fucking logic is that? A cast full of only anything is bad and stale.
>>156375204
anime and manga have time and page limits.The WN has no limits at all. Saying that manga=LN/WN is just dumb
>>156358221
Sure, there's a need for Garfiel /ss/ doujin material.
>>156375123
First one may be Ram talking to Ley i'd guess? She wants to "super" murder the gluttony bishop. Obviously we have seen no signs of Ley even being remotely kind, but we don't know the true nature of the current gluttony powers. And Ley has whip marks all over his body apparently, so for all we know, he may be getting brainwashed by Louis who seems to be the "leader" or the true owner of the authority. Maybe he ate their memories and made them follow him and somehow shared the authority? And Ley recovers said memories and turns out he was just a victim?
What cave could he be talking about i wonder?
I guess the third one could be Rem? Imagining Subaru didn't manage to kill Ley on time, or something else.
Roswaal joining the friendship side? Or someone who may be helping him with his ideals.
I guess Subaru did something that triggered a response from Garf, from some sort of "promise". Like maybe "if i ever deviate from my path, or do i do X, please kill me".
>>156374866
Are you setting up a food stand as well?
>>156375204
You might say everything changed is minor, but a lot of things come across differently in the WN vs other mediums. You can say all of these things are minor. It's mostly just stuff that goes into characterization after all. But it's still all of those little unimportant details that add up to how characters are perceived.
WN Subaru is somewhat more vicious, brutish, and scheming than he is in the LN. If we want to discuss Subaru's character flaws and personality, there's going to be a mismatch depending on which medium we're discussing.
What do you guys think about the author himself? Is he a huge pussy? Is he bold? Do you think he puts the story above his own bias or vice versa? How consistent are his interviews?
>>156374509
Where did ever say Rem wouldn't ever help the kids? Even Ram helped the kids in the LN and the manga even though she had like one line of dialogue with them (see Arc 3 loop 2 when Subaru makes to the village a second time with a dead Rem). Again their guards of Roswaal's domain as Rem said her herself, they do it even without even without having any relation to them so I don't know this still being brought up.
It doesn't change the point that prior to the climax of Arc 2 she was willing leave them to die which pissed Subaru off at that time.
Besides that you still have yet numerous scenes of her interacting with them. Rem the kids are mostly likely acquaintances yes, but not friends particular. At least not enough for it to matter in the main story before she was erased. That's just how it is in the MU.
>>156375651
I think he seems fairly chill i guess? He comes across as a jokester in most interviews, but he does answer Q&A's seriously unless the question calls for a joke.
He is fairly consistent for the most part i'd guess.
>>156374794
>His entire point this time is that the anime is the most accurate source even when discussing the WN/LN
Said no one ever. But I'm surprised you can't read anyway.
>>156375655
stop changing the matter just to justify your bs. you said she didn't care about them and that she didn't protect them, what is both wrong. you were proved wrong and you still insist on your statement. how arrogant can you even be?
>>156375358
>What cave could he be talking about i wonder?
When he was locked up by the cult in arc 3
>>156375721
>WN/LN doesn't matter because I watched the anime, don't tell me about differences between scenes they obviously don't matter because I don't want them to. Also stop bringing up the WN when discussing the WN, use the anime instead because its all I've watched.
>>156375713
do you think he'd kill off characters permanently after building them up for so long?
>>156375303
Page limits ( which vary) is the shittest excuse you can use. It's never stopped a skilled author conveying what he needs to. So that just an excuse to push the WN over everything because some stuff might cater more to you.
>>156375913
How the fuck should i know? He hasn't done anything like that just yet, the closest thing to that is Rem, and even then, the hints point to her waking up.
>>156375879
I actually get his argument I think, he means that anything that was cut in the manga/LN from the WN isn't relevant to anything anymore because he can't think of any other reason why they would get cut.
It's still dumb, let's just stop.
>>156375939
But there are limitations. For example in the manga and the anime, we didn't get to see pic related, which was a hint towards Priscilla's super royal candidate level good luck, in her winning every single time.
Not that big of an issue, but some stuff does get cut when it was present in the LN and serves as slightly foreshadowing. The manga is much better than the anime in that regard, since nothing super important got skipped as far as i'm aware. But still, some small hints can indeed be left out.
>>156375939
the WN and LN are both over the anime and manga, it's not just my excuse. The manga isn't even made by tappei so fuck off with your " It's never stopped a skilled author conveying what he needs to" bs
>>156376121
Oh wait, now that i remember, they did skip a fairly important foreshadowing piece. When Subaru faints after Roswaal rescues him, he is supposed to see Satella show up in the shadow world and a white figure takes him out of there, implied to being Rem.
That was not present in the manga.
>>156376312
>implied to being Rem.
How can you tell if it's Rem or not?
>>156376527
he remembered the feeling of her hand iirc
>>156376527
She was the one holding his hand in that moment, when he wakes up she was holding it. Plus, she was the one hugging him when he blacked out, and Emilia wasn't around.
If it means anything, or it's just representing the fact that Rem was close to Subaru i don't know. It could also mean that Rem was somehow a "light" that shone against Satella, again, could just be representing minor things, but considering how this whole ordeal seems to imply some bigger picture that was set up since ages past, i think it's fine to think it may represent something more.
><How come... there's no soul inside!?>
That's Ferris trying necromancer bullshit right?
I'm really curious about how Pandora Looks, especially if she is indeed a womanlet.
Hopefully the next volume shows her design, since it should be touching upon Beatrice's past and Emilia's trial of the past.
>>156376909
It most definitely won't reach Pandora, probably the volume after
>>156359298
if it wasnt succesful in bd sales i can easily guess it was successful in merch sales
>>156376909
I don't think she's a womanlet, I think she just straight-up looks like a young (ish) girl
>>156377162
What if she's actually an old hag, but eses her power to make herself look young?
>>156376527
I'm not sure how well the LN translated the line, but in the WN the white figure literally grabs him by the hand to pull him away from Satella. When he wakes up, it's Rem holding his hand.
Anyhow, there's one thing the WN goes into that I don't think either the anime or manga properly conveys. That being that a lot of Arc 3s focus is on Subaru becoming increasingly emotionally dependent on Rem in each loop. In the first loop, it's relatively minor. He's pissed at her when she ditches, but is still completely functional. By the second to last loop, he's getting fairly extreme panic attacks just imagining the idea she might not have absolute faith in him. Even after she's gone, he's repeating her name to himself for comfort at one point.
By the last loop, we've got the guy who's no longer afraid to just kill himself.
This probably gives some context as to his mental state and why he's so fucking on edge he wants to strangle people. You can see step by step how his attitude towards Rem begins resembling how he felt about Emilia at the start of the Arc. There's even a call back to the line about being "alone for the first time" when Emilia ditched him. Except with Rem, the line was triggered when she just said Roswaal ordered her to help him.
Anime should have ended here desu.
>>156377344
Would have been a bit much of a cliffhanger.
>>156376909
The ln is essentially at the end of phase 3 and Emilia's trial starts at phase 6, so you have two phases of build up and shenanigans to get through/abridge before Pandora (boiled down to the absolutely essentially happenings, this includes everything during Subaru's meeting with Satella, clown going emo so Ram has reason to help Subaru's team, Subaru getting beaten up by Otto and engaging in nefarious plots, the bet with Roswaal, Puck leaving, Emilia going missing, sanctuary's backstory from Lewes, the Ram/Otto fight with Garf, Emilia and Subaru's argument, and Subaru's fight with Garf)
>>156377239
Sounds sensible for vanity
>>156375535
WN Subaru is somewhat more vicious, brutish, and scheming than he is in the LN. If we want to discuss Subaru's character flaws and personality, there's going to be a mismatch depending on which medium we're discussing.
I don't agree because the LN and WN address the same issues. WN just made Suabru more unnecessary more annoying ti read about while still hitting the same beats. You're the only person Iike ever seen read both the WN and LN have that impression.
>>156375535
Vicious and brutish sure but wasn't LN Subaru supposed to be more levelheaded?
>>156375742
>stop changing the matter just to justify your bs
The fucking subject began with relationship between Petra and Rem and the kids via extension.
>you said she didn't care about them
Yes in Arc 2. I know what I fucking said. Otherwise from that point Rem is not shown to have much interaction with them
>and that she didn't protect them
No I didn't. I said I did not know if the kids where shed the first loop. We just see Rem's body and her fighting some cultist that's it. Someone here mentioned that she was protecting kids in the shed so I accepted that. It didn't however display an kind of relationship she might had with them. Especially because Ram does the same thing in the 2nd loop which means Rem would protected them just even based on fact it was her job.
Don't reply if you're gonna take what I say out of context to suit your bs.
>>156377344
No, it should have ended on this.
>>156358221
what's up with last three summary chapters
>>156365908
The Puck thing might be a part of Echidna's long game
If she can use the book of wisdom to see the future, or to see potential branching paths of the future, she might know beforehand that Emilia will come to exist in 300 years and send Puck off on a 3-century snipe hunt
>>156378306
People would be confused as to why Subaru cares about a cuck that much.
>>156378465
No, only brainless lowest IQ bracket people would be confused.
>>156378211
>Especially because Ram does the same thing in the 2nd loop which means Rem would protected them just even based on fact it was her job.
Is Ram even shown in the second loop? I don't recall her being mentioned there in the WN, but it may have slipped my mind.
>>156377635
Does Subaru still try to murder Otto in the LN? I know the scene where he uses Lewes to restrain Garf was cut. I've also seen other people say that Subaru acts more like a protagonist in the LN. It's noticeable.
>>156377828
I'm talking about the WN here. Arc 3 Subaru is the furthest thing from levelheaded regardless of medium. I don't think he spergs out at the knights as much as he does in the anime. The WN also puts a lot more attention on walking you through Subaru's mental state. Subaru's state of mind can be summarized as completely awful.
From what I've compared in the LN, his whole personality seems a bit toned down from the WN. In the LN, I was kind of wondering why he didn't have any friends since he didn't seem too bad. In the WN, you kind of get a very clear idea why he's a friendless loser.
>>156378465
do your parents hate you or something?
Friendly reminder that Minerva was probably fucked by an elf.
>>156378465
It's because of INTENSE FRIENDSHIP, of course. Get with the program, anon.
>>156378753
Anime Rem is a cuck.
>>156378849
you're wronmg and that's also not the answer to my question
>>156378849
She's Subaru's best friend.
>>156369678
why boner.jpg
>>156378849
wtf is by your definition a cuck?
>>156378882
She even begged Subaru to let her stay with him so that she could watch him flirting and saying I love you to Emilia in the anime kek.
>>156378982
>so that she could watch him flirting and saying I love you to Emilia in the anime kek
yeah that totally was it kek, nice headcanon
since when are these threads full of obnoxious retards?
>>156379019
Since the work became popular.
This is not the first, nor the last time it will happen to anything manga/anime in /a/
>>156379093
obnoxious people aren't new but now they're also retarded, it's this mix that makes this place so unsupportable
>>156379019
I don't understand. Anime Rem basically shows no sign of trying to win Subaru's heart after 18 and is pretty fine with Subaru chasing Emilia. If that Rem is not a cuck, what is she then?
>>156358221
The normalfags assemble
For a waifu they share
Rem, white with semen
Filled with endless despair
>>156379223
>Anime Rem basically shows no sign of trying to win Subaru's heart after 18
nice headcanon, like I said
>>156379386
Oh that. Sadly though, I completely forget that 3 second scene due to everything happening afterwards, especially the wonderful Subaru and Emilia's reconciliation scene.
>>156379269
My love for my waifu you mock
My weapon of choice is my glock
Your bitch ass rhymes will be denied
Because I'm packing my forty five
>>156379512
His poem is better, I'm afraid.
Gotta admit their dedication is astounding.
>>156379223
They cut the confession between Subaru and Rem after the WW battle when Subaru says he loves Rem and can't live without her, then they are about to kiss and get cockblocked by the cat.
>>156379571
he's pretending to not know that, that's why he adds "anime" everytime
>>156379554
You deny my flame
Your body I will maim
Emilia you cannot defend
Rem will win in the end
>>156379496
weird, I never see someone talk about that "wonderful reconciliation" scene, it's like no one gives a fuck about that half elf
>>156379571
That's why I've been specifically mentioning "anime" in my post. But apparently some people can't read for shit.
>>156379647
that makes it even worse, you know how bad the anime was and yet you mention stuff like that
>>156379693
I don't know anon. I thought we were talking about the anime the whole time? Either you just love to jump the gun and shit on people for no reason or you really can't fucking read.
>>156377344
>>156378306
you know, petelgeuse is a 402 years old spirit, what are the chances he was also created by echidna?
>>156379645
Yeah a shit ton of people still think your potato is a cuck so.
>>156379758
nobody is talking about the anime, you must be new here
>>156379827
But she is the most popular character and won best girl 2016
>>156379827
there're no shit ton of emiliafags so no
>>156379862
Yeah she's a popular cuck.
>>156379838
>Anime should have ended here desu.
>nobody is talking about the anime
>>156379909
how shit must the main heroine be if a cuck is so much more popular?
>>156379758
>you just love to jump the gun and shit on people for no reason
>People would be confused as to why Subaru cares about a cuck that much.
nice self-awareness
>>156379962
The potato might be good but she's still a cuck in the anime and my point still stands. Emilia is not shit though. She's been improved so much after arc 3 and I believe a lot of people will love her even more after watching the season 2.
>>156380113
anon, what's your definition of a cuck? Rem never said that she wants to see Subaru and Emilia together so stop making up shit, it's annoying and you shit up the thread for no reasons
>and I believe a lot of people will love her even more
>even more
sorry but she is not beloved now and she won't be after season 2 according to Wn/LN polls
>>156380113
Emilia's flaws are glaring
The spot light, Rem will not be sharing
You are animeonly
Go back to my little pony
>>156380113
>implying people like Emilia
wasn't she below puck and Subaru in the anime poll?
>>156359298
weird, I thought it was all the rage with the normies
>>156380254
yep, laughable 7%
>http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/09/19/feature-worlds-largest-rezero-character-poll-results-revealed
>>156379512
''Your'' waifu, she is not
For all normalfags own a stock
Her body, an object of lust
And her mind, Slowly turns to dust.
>>156380204
>Rem never said that she wants to see Subaru and Emilia together
>so she's not a cuck! Even though she's perfectly fine with Subaru chasing Emilia.
You need to learn to read between the lines anon. Rem is clearly a cuck.
>>156380299
I will do what I must
This nut I will bust
To this doujin
Like a dirty gaijin
>>156380332
>Even though she's perfectly fine with Subaru chasing Emilia.
except she hates it? but was is she supposed to do except for trying like she did? anon, you still didn't explain what a cuck is.
>>156380435
Dumb anon doesn't know that she was going to play dirty and fake her death and get a confession. Which was her plan B after from Zero. The anime did not portray those scenes fucking the entire thing up, making a season 2 fucking impossible because a main plot line cannot progress.
>>156380332
nah, Rem is a sweet girl that rejects rejection, Emilia is the one that gets pretty close to being a cuck considering how she even asked Subaru is he was a cheater and he was like "yeah" and she was fine with that
>>156380532
every person with a brain can see that Subaru loves her even without a confession
>>156380532
Some anon said something about an OVA last thread , but yeah you are right about the anime fucking that up
anonymous got in a fight
where they argued throughout the night
to "disregard anime!",
"novels are throwaways!"
not either to prove themselves right
>>156380532
they just have to show a Subaru at Rem's bedside scene or the carmilla scene
>>156380706
Reminder that Ram will chew Subaru out
When the fuck is Tappei going to update again? I want to see Julius get his ass handed to him once more.
>>156380706
Your bars are a waste of time
Keeping talking and I'll give you the Chicago nursery rhyme
You cannot comprehend the rap game
ESL is your name
>>156380435
>except she hates it?
Show me when she said or implied it in the anime then.
>>156380617
>Subaru loves her even without a confession
Nice headcanon. Subaru didn't even love Rem that much until she got eaten for good at the end of arc 3. And you think he loved Rem already before that?
>>156380557
>she was fine with that
Because Emilia knew for sure Subaru wouldn't do shit to the potato or betray Emilia's feelings for the sake of that potato as long as Emilia's still around. And boy was she right.
>>156366195
Because Emilia is a sealed version of Satella and Satella and Minerva were best buds
>>156380875
If you have read the source material you would find that Subaru and Rem's relationship has been developing since Arc 2 with the loops in Arc 3 being the real meat of the development
Isn't the new MYTH & ROID album coming out today?
>>156365908
>Actually now that i stop to think about it, there is another thing that doesn't hold up as well. Puck was around since 400 years ago. And he was sent away to search for Emilia since that time too, even though Emilia is SUPPOSEDLY only 12 around 100 years ago.
Re:zero is a time paradox of Subarus eternal suffering
This is all speculation until Tappei actually confirms it but based on what little data I have to work with this is the best I can come up with
Subaru= Flugel is mostly derived from Shaula calling Subaru Flugel and the watchtower being named the Subaru watchtower with puzzles only an astronomy junkie from earth would understand.
Pucks lines to reinhard during the second trial about being only a hero where he starts talking like Subaru are specifically lines Subaru has said about reinhard in emilias third trial and in the ayamatsu IF.
Betty is the source for Echidna creating Puck and she has used souls in a similar fashion with her witches in her tea party.
The Emilia=Satella stuff is mostly due to the fact they look exactly alike and because of her fascination with Subaru but due to time disparities we can only attribute that to Flugel whom some of us suspect may be some witch time fuckery Subaru.
The idea is that at some point in the future Subaru and Emilia are going to go back in time 400 years due to witch time fuckery and become Flugel and Satella.
Emilia(satella) will obtain at this point(or maybe even previous to the time fuckery) her witch factor and will go nuts some point in the past forcing the heroes+Flugel(Subaru) to seal her. I don't have an explanation for the time gap of 300 years for Emilia(sealed Satella) and will attribute it to more witch fuckery--
Is everyone here fucking stupid? The anon said Rem is a cuck in THE ANIME, not in the source material. And honestly that's the impression everyone gets too if they don't know about the source material.
Stop being so asshurt about it, he's not even being that serious.
Kadokawa is waiting for the LNs to move up more.
Once another 9 LNs are out Season 2 will begin.
>>156381033
>>156365908
So at some point after or during Fighting Satella(emilia(WoE) and sealing her as Emilia Flugel(subaru) dies and had some sort of agreement with Echidna to turn him into a spirit to protect emilia(sealed satella)
Which also explains pucks outburst in the second trial yelling at Echidna
Subaru only has RbD in the current era due to Sealed satella/WoE influence and would not have the ability after traveling back in time or with a newly sealed WoE/satella(emilia)
>>156381074
Do you have some source on that statement?
>>156381074
Make it 7 and publish another 2 while the anime is airing.
>>156381060
>everyone gets
you mean the few Emiliafags?
>>156381060
But she isn't a cuck in the anime, it's just her plan B to secure Subaru's love was cut. But her motivations to keep trying to get him to confess to her are still there.
>>156381117
Anon, the anime does hint at them being fairly close, hence the whole INTENSE FRIENDSHIP meme, but everyone thinks that she got sided on the lover race in the anime. If that wasn't the case everyone wouldn't be shitting that hard on it right?
>>156381131
>it's just her plan B to secure Subaru's love was cut.
Thanks for the laugh.
>>156381131
>her plan B to secure Subaru's love was cut
Exactly, hence why it's an "anime only" deal. If you don't know about the source material, the impression you get is that she's fine with just being close to him.
Think for one second, i'm not even that anon and i get what he's going on about.
>>156381177
I didn't argue against her being sidelined in the anime. I'm saying she's not a cuck, not in the source and not in the anime.
>>156381081
That is a really good theory, but we know there are other people that got isrkai'd (Al), if the time passage in both worlds is the same Flugel could be some astrologist from 400 years ago.
All we can do is wait for Tappei to confirm your theory
>>156380875
I'm honestly not sure if you're trolling or not.
>>156381081
I'd buy that theory if Subaru actually cared that much about Emilia.
>>156381435
He is. His last point just forgot all the times Subaru broke his promises to Emilia, which is basically every time.
>>156381608
eeemiiiliaaaaaaaaaughgghhhhghghhhhhnnmmnmnmmmmmmmemila
>>156381675
>Subaru broke his promises to Emilia
Can you stop bringing this up already? Subaru breaking his promises to Emilia is bad, but he did feel bad for that and even did ton of things to compensate for it. So why do you keep shitting on their relationship for such petty reason?
>>156381848
because their relationship is weak, confirmed by the author
>>156381964
To be fair, it was weak in arc 3, after that it got better, but romantically it didn't get THAT much progress yet.
>>156381848
you know, he could've just avoided breaking promises by talking to her but no, more forced melodrama was needed
>>156382015
I don't know how much better it will get when it's built off a lie post Arc 4. That whole confession to her was not geniune, there's times where he gets his words mixed up and he rips phrases straight from Rem's confession.
>>156381964
When and where? Roswaal even mentions that Subaru's feelings for Emilia are just as much (if not more) as those for Rem. So I don't know what you're getting at.
>>156382015
zero progression in a fucking year, that's just laughable
EMILIA WILL FALL IN LOVE WITH ME
TAKE IT SLOW AND STEADY
EMILIA-TAN WILL LOVE ME
LOOP BY LOOP UNTIL SHE LOVES ME
NEVER EVER SURRENDER
REPAY MY DEBTS WITH LOVE
>>156382109
It was genuine, the problem is that he didn't want to force it in that situation, nor the kiss, but knew it was necessary in order to give her a confidence boost.
>>156382112
q&a the author compared them to elementary schoolers, Subaru feelings don't say anything about the relationship. By your logic Roswaal and Echidna should've the best relationship
>>156382183
repay your debts of love by assassinating all of her contenders for the throne
>>156382183
>I'll make you fall for me (with my retry ability)
that was the line that made me hate their relationship, It's the most forced shit I've seen in that series
>>156382370
>implying Subaru didn't win over Rem's heart and make her fall in love with him by using his retry ability.
>>156382370
LOVE IS INEVITABLE
SUBMIT
>>156382370
Rem's love for him is also due to Return by death and finding a good route anon.
>>156382228
Nah,
>Subaru: “No! No, that's utterly wrong! There's some reason I believe in you, and so I love you. — That idea's wrong. I love you. And so I believe in you. That way around!”
Nigga can't even form his sentences correctly, he wasn't confessing to her because he loved her, he was trying to replace Puck as her pillar of support which was planned from the beginning with Puck.
>>156382228
you know he could've just kissed her again after the trials and make that whole thing genuine but nope
>>156382498
Weren't both of then getting frustrated and bickering at each other? I think it's normal to fumble around when you're a tad hot headed, since he was trying to make her notice she wasn't useless, but she was butting heads with him about it.
>>156382438
that's another reason he thinks he's not worthy of her and is responsible for that 'curse'
however, he never aimed to make her fall for him and didn't say cocky bullshit like' I'll make you fall for me'
>>156382463
that's why his line is so disgusting, saying something like that even though he can't possible fail is just rediculous
>>156382728
He's not going to kill himself for it though. He made that resolution in arc 4. He won't off himself unless it's extremely necessary for him to save someone dear to him, or everything goes to hell.
>>156382627
>he never aimed to make her fall for him
Because he never wanted to love Rem or see her romantically in the first place. Emilia was instead the girl Subaru hopelessly fell in love with so it's understandable why he would try so hard and say things like that to make Emilia love him back.
>>156382728
>saying something like that even though he can't possible fail
What the fuck is your problem anon? Subaru simply wanted to show his determination to get Emilia to reciprocate to his love for her. Why would Subaru even think about RbD in that situation when he himself hates it to death?
>>156382463
in one way or another yes, Rem's love for him is mainly from that talk they had on that morning. My point is that Subaru didn't plan to make her fall for him and he himself didn't plan to fall for her. It feels much more natural than the Emilia counterpart.
>>156382799
I wasn't implying he would kill himself but Emilia will never get to see him fail or being weak what he actually is
Why is Subaru the best car?
>>156382867
>it's understandable why he'd try so hard and say these things
you don't get it. Even after the fight with her it seems like he isn't doing stuff for her but for himself. If he actually loved her or respected her feelings he would just shut up and do his best to make her fall for him without pushing it with his words and force it that way
>>156383008
It isn't
WRX STI is a slow piece of shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YSjItQneNM
How often does anonsama translate?
It looks like he is much faster than chicken
Is there any description of Subaru/Emilia after the timeskip of vol 4?
>>156383103
Your new is showing.
>>156383103
stop baiting you piece of shit
>>156383008
>boxer engines
>>156383008
because he's got rem with him
>>156383126
Fuck off he isnt baiting
>>156383222
>mazda
>rotary
nice engine evolutionary dead end
The I4 will stand the test of time.
t. Honda
>>156383046
You are so nitpicking anon but whatever. The guy just risked his life saving the girl he loved so he deserved to say something like that. As long as his feelings are genuine, it's all good.
>>156383356
>as long as they are genuine
can't you read? his feelings don't seem genuine with how he's forcing it. If he they were genuine then he'd never developed romantic feelings for Rem and he'd never asked for something in return from Emilia for his efforts. He wouldn't put on a mask when he's with her and he'd try to make progress in their romantic relationship but all of that doesn't happen.
>>156383542
that was so weird
>I will make you fall for me, Emilia!
>learns that Rem is in coma
>I don't want to get intimate with Emilia!
It's so weird with how Rem's situation prevents him from getting closer to Emilia. I wouldn't call his feelings genuine, at least not his romantic feelings.
>>156383687
It's more like, he didn't expect to fall so deep in love with Rem, and was trying not to in arc 3, but inevitably that was impossible considered everything that happened.
So, he wants to put his feelings in order with both of them with Rem awakened. Otherwise i guess he feels it would be awful for Rem who he also has feelings for if he tried anything with Emilia.
>>156383753
I think something simple like that would've been explained already. No one can relate to 'loving 2 girls romantically equally' so stuff like that need to be explained unless the author is either bullshitting the audience or is hiding a twist.
Who here is Re:Watch ing Re:Zero right now?
>>156361265
Why do boys always make the best girls?
>>156384374
they don't you're just gay
>>156384451
It isn't gay if it's a feminine penis.
Beako is best
BEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT
Post wedding Rem
>>156385364
>>156385619
What did he mean by this?
>>156380875
>Subaru didn't even love Rem that much until she got eaten for good at the end of arc 3. And you think he loved Rem already before that?
Honestly, I don't think most anons here have read enough of Arc 3 to judge Subaru's relationship with Rem. While Rem and Subaru's relationship is far from perfect, his feelings for her pre-coma aren't weak at all. He gets fucking panic attacks just imagining her disapproving of him, and that's from before From Zero. After From Zero, his mind is still less full of "gotta save Emilia" and more full of "can't disappoint Rem".
He is an emotionally needy and clingy fuck, and Rem completely owns that side of him now.
>>156386451
>read enough of Arc 3
Where? the LN isnt translated and WN translation was dropped.
Should I just learn moonrunes?
>>156386741
>Where? the LN isnt translated and WN translation was dropped.
>Should I just learn moonrunes?
exactly anon, not many anons can read moonrunes, so not many have read the LN since it's not translated.
Who here agrees ReinRegu is the best ship for Regu and Reinhard
>>156387245
Fuck off fujo
>>156386741
Unfortunately, no one seems very interested in translating it, since the anime already covered it. Which is a mistake, since it goes a lot more indepth as to what Subaru is thinking and his mental degeneration. That part is extremely important, as that relates to the shift in his attitude towards Rem.
As far as I've read to, I'd hesitate to say From Zero fixed Subaru. He didn't suddenly realize what was truly important to him and instantly become a better person, though it got him pushed in that direction. I'm probably only giving my biased interpretation, but the anime makes his post-From Zero mental state look a lot more stable than it was in the WN.
The whole death confession scene change is a big point in that regard. It's not just Rem getting a love confession. It's Subaru showing a little of that kind of clingy, emotionally dependent, jealous nature which led him to fucking shit up in the first place.
>>156387529
the jewpress LN translation will cover that by next year I hope
>>156387245
EchiLia is best ship
>tfw you're invincible
>>156387872
Yaaaassss
>>156387785
>that link
Are you trying to start a shitshow?
>>156387872
>>156387583
I'm wondering if anything was changed about his mental processes in the LN. LN Subaru is a much calmer guy. Arc 2 was an interesting experience, since Subaru clenched his fist to punch Roswaal pretty early in, so it's clear from the start he's a more volatile Subaru.
Oh, but there was one joke I enjoyed a lot in Arc 2. He used to be in Kendo Club in junior high. I just remember that excuse from too many bad isekai stories, to explain why the MC can fight. When showing off his awesome Kendo skills, he just gets his sword stuck in a tree. I'm not sure how much time he actually spent participating, since his thoughts drift to the club's hidden porn stash at one point.
>>156388052
That's why I spoilered it
>>156387872
>>156388103
anon, thats the wrong pic
>>156388139
Reinhard wins
>>156358221
deserves it and need its
>>156388114
Spent a lot of time polishing the club's swords then?
>>156388252
maybe he did a lot of sword fighting with the other club members
>>156388252
Well, Subaru's got a trigger about being mistaken for a girl, which connects to how he wanted to punch Roswaal, and surprising skill at crossdressing.
So yeah. He's probably polished some swords in his time.
>>156388488
Rem probably appreciates his skills when it comes to sucking her dick
>>156388801
>Rem probably appreciates his skills when it comes to sucking her big thick oni horn
ftfy
>>156388886
How does Rem masturbate normally? By rubbing her horn?
>>156388997
yeah, it makes herhorny
>>156388886
Not seeing the difference
I know this is the Re:zero thread, but since Konosuba is usually talked about here from time to time due to the authors being friends i figured i'd post here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn_J14D5Pg8
This entire time, i thought the Konosuba author was female especially with that pen name.
>Can't even ship my authors in peace anymore because one of them is a trap
>>156389389
>the anime man
>>156389389
Blame the catfag for feminine dick
So after reading chapter 131 Ram vs. Roswaal went as smoothly as I thought it would.
I wonder if the Trials are foreshadowing something that could happen down the line.
Also, I wonder if Subaru will ever tell her about Betelgeuse. I think that would be an interesting talk.
I am fucking amazed by shitposter-kun's dedication sometimes
>>156389740
>I wonder if the Trials are foreshadowing something that could happen down the line.
You don't need to wonder, because the text makes it explicitly clear that it is exactly what it is, warnings about possible future "disasters". If they'll remain, or if they will be changed by return by death, remains to be seen.
So what is up with those birds in the newest chapter released for the WN?
>>156388161
cut sun in half, 2 sun
sun win everytime
>>156392262
Sunlight buff sword jesus, more sun more buff
Sword jesus win
>>156378751
>Is Ram even shown in the second loop? I don't recall her being mentioned there in the WN, but it may have slipped my mind.
Yes, she outside the shed protecting the kids instead of Rem there that time. Which why I point out that this specific action doesn't mean she all that intimate with them since Ram barely knew them and still worked to safeguard them. There no much reason or Rem not protect them in this instance anyway.
Even the anime version of what in first loop isn't much difference in regards of what happened to Ram, it just add Petra being protected by her there instead of Petra being the first body Subaru comes across in the street.
>Does Subaru still try to murder Otto in the LN? I know the scene where he uses Lewes to restrain Garf was cut. I've also seen other people say that Subaru acts more like a protagonist in the LN. It's noticeable.
Subaru never tries to murder Otto in either version. He's most extreme actions come from being hotheaded, high emotionally and acting out if stress like he's done with Emilia, the Knights, Rem, Crusch, Carmilia, etc rather being a conscious decision on his part which has been consistent in all medium. He's not secret murderer or anything. I think you interpreted this scenes in a more extreme way then Tappei intended.
>>156380288
Consequently she was only other Re:Zero character to make into the top ten of Newtype Anime Awards. This even with her less screentime in second half of the show, and much larger sample size over hundred of characters.
So no she's really unpopular, at least in Japan anyway. She's guaranteed to raise once S2 happens as well several other characters.
>>156381233
There is was no B plan. She was just desperate. Even Rem has said she not kind of person who thinks through all that much. This both true LN and WN. Unlike JP fans the only reason people want to think otherwise is because of the dislike of polygamy.
>>156381608
>>156381964
Good fucking lord, I wish people would stop warping Tappei's words to fit their agenda. Tappei stated he strained Subaru and Emilia relationship to strengthened it at the end after Subaru get over himself.
Next someone tell he hates Rem because he put her in a coma.
>>156382133
No. Just because they go fucking each other immediately doesn't mean they go out on dates and other couple things with their promise to do. Contrary to what /a/ might think there more to love and relationship than just screwing somebody, such as enjoying their company. This ship is here to stay for all 11 arcs.
>>156392385
>Subaru never tries to murder Otto in either version.
It's mentioned he looked like he was trying to kill Otto and was thinking of breaking his neck. I'm not sure where you're getting this "secret murderer" thing from, as I think you're interpreting my words in more of an extreme way than I intended. Wanting to kill someone and acting out of highly emotional stress are far from mutually exclusive.
In that moment, he wanted to kill Otto. This feeling lasted only until the first distraction.
>>156392385
>Yes, she outside the shed protecting the kids instead of Rem there that time.
Just checking through the WN again. Ram isn't mentioned in the second loop. The shed by the garden isn't mentioned either. The kids are all dead in the village.
>>156392808
You're the one bring up things like that up under context of him being more vicious in the WN, when just his usual hotheadedness that's readily apparent in both WN and LN which happens wen he's emotions get the better of him. In the Arc 4 version of LN he's less hotheaded, but he still has his moments when he looses his cool which served to better contrast his growth after Arc 3.
>>156392966
Yes. He seems more vicious. I'm sure he still loses his cool in Arc 4, but he seems to have a worse temper in the WN in general. His strategies are somewhat more villainous. He acts a bit scarier.
He is noticeably a little different.
>>156392938
Tappei add into the LN apparently which is where the anime got it from.
>>156393107
Then I'll check that out when I look at the LN to compare.
However, I'm going to stand firm on my disagreement that the differences are irrelevant to discussion of the characters. A lot of the shit people talk about in these threads can be quite different between the LN and WN, even if the general course of events remains the same. Character discussion will be different if characters are portrayed differently.
If the general course of events was all that mattered, a plot summary would be enough to tell you everything.
>>156358221
Still waiting for it senpai. Probably wont be released this year.
>>156393050
Subaru's only real stratagy where he's actually planned things until Arc 4's final loop was he's negotiations to when Crusch over to helping him and there was nothing vicious about in either version.
Prior to that his best tactics either involved getting himself killed to gather information or just wringing while causing as little damage as possible. That's not exactly being vicious. We are talking about someone who runs around saving kids he barely knew for a day and earnestly tried to pay Emilia back for her rescuing him. He definitely has his selfish sides, but being vicious is over-the-top.
>>156393248
to win Crusch
>>156393248
I think you're reading way more emotion into my words then I'm putting there. He has a more unpleasant personality. His negative traits are stronger. He sics someone's loligrannies on a guy to restrain him, while acting like an edgy faggot.
His personality is somewhat more vicious. When he overreacts and gets angry, it seems a little more extreme than in the LN. I'm not calling him evil or a bad person. I'm not saying he isn't sincere in trying to help people. He's just clearly not the exact same guy as he is in the LN. They don't have the same personality, even if they're still similar in many respects.
>>156393248
Just from what we heard, the worse temper thing comes from him getting more triggered about Rem.
They also cut him strangling Roswaal after finding out he's a gospel user. Maybe he still would have done that if the scene happened in the LN but his characterization definitely comes across as different since they left that out.
>>156393402
He's got a worse temper even before Rem, even if he was acting like an ass and getting angry over frivolous nonsense. The LN made some nice improvements and additions, and I won't argue about that. Whether you like it or not, Subaru's personality is noticeably different as far as I can tell. I'm going to try to finish Arc 3 of the WN before looking more through the LN chapters. What little I've seen already made him look like less of a memelord, so that's a bit different.
>>156360375
So, anyone got any sources which visions already happened?
>>156394149
none of them have happened.
Well this thread sure died suddenly
>>156384374
>>156384531
Ferriposting is best posting.
>>156396506
Stop posting Ferri, bully.
>>156396542
Why am I a bully, anon?
>>156396579
You post Ferri without putting your soul into it.
>>156396623
You post everything without any much of a thought, soul, or even remotest remorse
Fuck you, catfag
>>156396623
While I agree it was a pretty low-quality post, I had already spent like 1.5hrs editing that image.
I will refrain from post low-quality Ferriposts in the future.
>>156396695
>I had already spent like 1.5hrs editing that image.
Don't lie like that bro
>>156396738
You want the PSD bro?
>>156397002
I saw that edit like months ago. So you had made it huh.
Btw, new Reinhard and Felt short story, something about babysitting? https://twitter.com/Rezero_official/status/857173911783432192
>>156358221
Why didn't Subaru ask Roswall to also be trained under him to become Emilia's legitimate Knight/Hero?
Just working for her wouldn't have gotten him far ignoring everything that happens in the future.
>>156384451
It's okay to be gay.
>>156384451
You don´t have the power to say NO to this.
>>156398150
>>156398150
Catposting need to stop
>>156397987
In Arc 3? I would guess because he wasn't taking shit seriously enough
After Arc 4? Fuck the clown
Trained Anyway