What was the main theme and message of Kill la Kill?
>>156349789
You are what you wear if you dress like shit you're probably shit.
Women can be sexy and kick ass
Ryuko was built for breeding.
You should dress to kill
you shouldnt let your constant sexual objectification stop you from being a badass
ie: dont challenge the systems of oppression that hold you and your sisters down, because you can be a cool action hero AND a sex objectklk is one of my favorite shows but man fuck that bit specifically
>>156349789
clothes are evil
we should all just be naked
something something individuality juxtaposed by structure and the duality of freedom and contraint
Don't lose your way.
Sometimes the best course of action is to embrace/try to understand the things you don't like.
Ryuko went from being embarrassed that Senketsu showed her body to fully utilizing his power by being proud of it.
Ryuko most "lost her way" when she went into a fit about Nui killing her dad. The show suggests it's better to approach your enemies in a controlled manner than to outright hate them.
Ragyo and the life fiber conspiracy dominated the second half of the show, and yet Ryuko had to continue using life fibers to defeat her. Eventually she even used Ragyo's clothing against her.
>>156349789
Gainax & friends are primarily interested in animating "cool looking shit" because that's what sells (hence why you're even making this post).
Those people aren't writers and have no interest in anything philosophical or deep. I wouldn't be surprised if their character designs came first and then someone strung them all together in a scotch-taped storyline which "mostly fits". So what's the main theme and message of Kill La Kill? Well. If you've watched it, you would know that it's:FUCKING, WHATEVER.
The same is true for Panty & Stocking and Gurren Lagann. Basically the message/theme is always the thinnest possible excuse they can get by with in order to illustrate visually appealing shit. And there's really nothing wrong with that since I'm a big fan of visually appealing shit.
>>156349789
Lots of sex is a good thing
>>156350217
I can hear the rumblings of 10,000 Gurren Laplebs furiously bashing their keyboards in anger over this post...
>>156349789
Don't let society dictate who you are.
Make your own decisions without being influenced by others.
You can't change society if you refuse to be part of it.
The world is beautiful because everyone is different.
>>156349789
Highschool girls have the best bodies, bar none.
>>156349789DON'T LOSE YOUR WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Any other interpretation of KLK's message in this thread is literally wrong.
>>156350343
Society will always dictate who you are
Your decisions will always be influenced by others
You will always be part of society
Everyone is literally the same
Trigger likes butts
Nonon made me get weird feelings in weird places.
Why does Japan have to keep trying to turn me pedo?
I'm horrified really, if you want my honest opinion.
>>156350428
*tips fedora*
>>156349789
You could pull ideas out from your ass at the last minute and people will think it was well planned out.
>>156350578
Funny because you came off as a tedora tipper in my mind
>>156349986
This was what I was thinking while watching it.The life fibers reminded me of the aliens from Invasion of the Body Snatchers; an alien lifeform that attaches to a host in a kind of symbiotic relationship, but also ultimately taking it over and destroying it to reproduce. Humans are the host organisms and they struggle to fight back against this alien manifestation of super-nature; it felt like a metaphor for fighting for one's individuality.
Also, bewbs amirite?!
>>156350542
Liking loli is fine, just remind yourself that actual children have creepy pygmy faces.
>>156350542
>pedo
She's 18 like Satsuki, it's just that she's an ugly flat midget.
>>156350542
Its just how their way of things work out there. Rapey doujins, crying moans, and generally beta males
>>156350542
Why do you think so many turbo weebs are actually weirdos? They aren't even aware of it you know.
The entire theme is summarized by the whole "we're incomprehensible" "that makes no sense" "that's who WE are" thing.
>>156350633
I just typed down the messages that are explicitly stated in the show, without giving my opinion.
Your nihilistic rant, on the other hand, reeked of 15 year old fedora tipper.
>fanservice as a plot device
If you think there's a theme you're doing it wrong.
>>156350767
Whoa settle down there big guy. All that bitter projection isn't healthy. Just trying to help you gain a bit of self awareness
>>156350640
I think the most immediate reference for Senketsu and Junketsu were the symbiontes from Spider Man, but that works too.
>>156349789
It's just "believe in yourself", but from a different angle. Instead of "believe in what you can become/achieve" it's more "believe in what you are already". Ultimately they're supposed to intersect.
>>156349789
You can only be shamed by others if you allow yourself to be.
>>156349789
dont lose your way
>>156349789
Anime is fun and you should enjoy it without worrying about mean people in the internet.
>>156349789
Don't lose your way.
>>156350801
...said the anon who typed the needlessly pessimistic post in direct response to an earnest and forthright one.
>>156349789
that if you have nice titties, you should show them off more
>>156350962
this is actually it
>>156351056
Thats a pretty backwards way of thinking. I'm just humbly trying to get you to accept the truth.
>>156349789
Holy shit those breeding hips
That Ryuko is built for sex
>>156351155
What truth? The the world isn't worth living in? That your bleak form of nihilism is the only way to live? Because I refute that. I refute it will all my heart. This world is worth it. It is beautiful. You just have to but in the effort to find that beauty. Your way is the easy way. The path of least resistance. Happiness may be on the mountaintop, or deep within the gorge, but the climb to it is worth it.
>>156349789
Anime is doomed and can't be saved
>>156349789
Wearable technology is cool, but maybe we shouldn't go too far.
>>156351314
t. 20 something expert on life
Don't blow things out of proportion. Settle down.
>>156351446
And you're so much more knowledgeable? Besides, your didn't answer my question, what "truth" are you trying to impart?
>>156351487
You gotta look harder. I'm not going to just give you the answer. Have you tried looking at my posts positively?
>>156349789
boobs?
>>156349980
>dont challenge the systems of oppression
You mean the one she flew into space to blow up?
>that hold you and your sisters down
Her actual sister was part of the oppression for half the show.
Dumb tumblrposter.
Your power corresponds directly to your capability to face shame.
>>156351574
What positivity is there to be found in "Society will always dictate who you are
Your decisions will always be influenced by others
You will always be part of society
Everyone is literally the same"
You're trying to tell people to be happy that they have no agency, to be glad for their mental enslavement. In direct response to a post about how we do have agency, that we can choose who we are, that we have, and always will have, freewill.
>>156351628
I mean. I'm just going to jerk off to Satsuki then, alright?
>>156351688
I'm not trying to tell anyone to be anything. Didn't you say the world is beautiful? Try looking harder at the beauty in the sickest knowledge I just dropped on you
>>156349789
You don't really need to have a high-concept message to create a work of art.
>>156351633
Nice anon
What was the main theme and message of Panty and Stocking?
>>156350657
So my faps were legal, thank god
>>156351757
That's not knowledge. It's the lies we tell ourselves so that we stop trying. It's what someone says when they've given up and can't face up to their failure.
But you can start again. You can try to try again. Because as long as you are still alive, you can learn how to live again.
>>156351719
>Satsuki instead of Ryuko
Patrician taste.
>>156349789
Clothes are evil.
>>156351850
Its not ok to be a slutty angel?
>anime, having any symbolic depth, let alone a theme
>>156351850
Don't trust your sister.
>>156351882
You aren't looking hard enough anon
>>156349789
sex sells
>>156349789
show an girl going through puberty
>>156351850
Humor is bound to the culture in which it is conceived.
>>156351903
>autist, not knowing how, commas work
>those two anons going back and forth
I just wanted to fap, not read this high level rhetoric.
>>156351936
Why don't you try looking for happiness, not sorrow. For freedom, not slavery. Your double0think only works if your would-be victims allow it to, and I have long since wised up to the lies that loneliness tells.
>>156352008
>high level
Its just reciting random quotes from philosophers and movies
>>156352016
If you can't recognize it within my posts then you are lost and confused anon. Do you really need me to hold your hand on this?
>>156349789
Incest is ok if they're cute
>>156351850
ANARCHY FUCK YEAH, RULES SUCKS
Honestly despite being fun PSG didn't have a lot to say.
>>156352115
Enlighten me then, as to what you're trying to say. Because your "message" isn't clear at all, and if you want to actually have any sort of discussion with anyone, you need to be clear about what you're saying.
>>156349789
A girl becomes a woman when she stops feeding (menstrual) blood to her clothes. Also when she stops dressing like a turbo whore.
>>156352193
But its clear as day. Are you sure you aren't hazy right now?
>>156352003
kek
>>156352212
Now you're just being evasive for no reason. Either say what you mean or you're not worth talking to.
>>156349789
that satsuki is the best girl
>>156352274
Whoa calm down.
For one, the Student Council members are referred to as the four devas, ie the Four Heavenly Kings in Buddhism, who are said to be protectors of Lord Sakra, living atop "Mount Sumeru" (the center of the Buddhist universe) which you'll find looks similar to the design of the strange mountain that Honnoji Gakuen sits atop. Mount Sumeru is said to be populated with terraces where different levels of Sakra's followers reside, similar to the star system in the series.
Honnoji Academy is a reference to the Honnoji Incident in 1582, where Nobunaga was betrayed by his general Akechi Mitsuhide at the Honnoji Buddhist temple in Kyoto. This is alluded to when student council member Sanageyama directly quotes Mitsuhide's famous "The enemy awaits at Honnō-ji!" speech. Ragyo = Nobunaga, the daimyo trying to unify Japan (Ragyo trying to take over the world), and Satsuki = Akechi Mitsuhide, the general that betrays her at Honnoji (the same place that Satsuki betrays her mother in the series). This also fits with the idea of the temple sitting atop Mount Sumeru, since Buddhist temples are often architecturally designed to invoke the imagery of Sumeru (you will also find images online that show Honnoji Gakuen, when seen from afar, is designed to look like a Kamui uniform with it's arms in a round circle, relating to the Buddhist meditation position where practitioners bring their hands in a circle in front of them and imagine themselves as Mount Sumeru).
Something something have the strength and freedom to live your life the way you want or whatever
Basically, the exact same message as 90% of anime
>>156349789
Childhood is thinking Ryuko was waifu material
Adulthood is realizing Satsuki was the one true waifu all along
>>156352364
The light seen emanating from Satsuki and Ragyo is a reference to the "rainbow body" phenomen, a state of spiritual realization in Tibetan Buddhism, wherein light is said to emanate from practitioners as they reach higher levels of understanding. In the most advanced state, where one is said to have attained complete knowledge, rainbow colors are seen. Not only does light emanate from Satsuki and Ragyo, but Ragyo also exhibits rainbow colors, and at one point even specifically refers to herself as "one who knows all the truths in this world." You'll also note that during the bath scene with Satsuki (which Ragyo refers to as a "ritual") at the climax of the scene Satsuki's chakra (specific energy points on the body) are very clearly shown as being opened.
The story of Kill la Kill may be a reference to an ancient Tibetan apocalypse mythology, that predicts a war in which foreign invaders will be defeated by a king from a distant land that joins forces with the gods of Mount Sumeru to bring peace and understanding to the world (something to that effect), which is possibly a reference to Ryuko joining forces with Satsuki to defeat the aliens. More generally speaking though, the story I think focuses on Ryuko's personal "path to enlightenment" (i.e., the Way she's not supposed to Lose), and how she's helped by her Kamui (god clothing) to come to an ultimate understanding (or Nirvana) about herself and the nature of her existence, and to be at peace with it. This is most notable in that Ryuko defeats Ragyo at the end of the series, not by destroying her, but by "Absorbing" her with Senketsu. "Absorption" is a state known as jhana (meditative absorption) and is the last of the eightfold paths in Buddhist practice needed for attaining Nirvana.
>>156352407
There are many other possible references, including what looks like a lotus blossom (very important Buddhist symbol) during the Absorption, Senketsu possibly being a Boddhisatva, and a visual nod to Nirvana (snuffing of the flame) in Senketsu's death scene.
The story revolves around Ryuko, who's deeply upset about her father's death, and later about the realization of her true nature/existence as being both clothing and human. But at the end of the series she accepts the nature of her existence and doesn't let it affect her anymore. As a thematic central message, that sort of character progression seems to resonate with Buddhist belief, that the world is filled with suffering born from a lack of understanding/acceptance of the nature of reality and one's self (dukkha), and that peace is achieved from coming to understand and accept that nature, and not allow it to affect one's self (nirvana). While Ryuko at the beginning of the series is confused and angry by the death of her father, at the end of the series she can think back to Senketsu (who also had passed away) and smile knowingly (the fact that her father and Senketsu both share an eyepatch seems to make the parallel all the stronger). Ryuko's "way" was the path to her coming to accept the nature of life and of herself, which is why the Buddhist imagery seems an appropriate a thematic umbrella.
>>156352332
If you want people to listen, don't refuse to explain what you mean, or else they'll just tell you to blow it out your ass.
So you can go blow it out your ass.
>>156349789
Ass n tiddies. People should be naked more often.
Cute, hot, funny and badass. How can other girls even compete?
>>156349789
Be true to yourself.
I thought it was pretty straightforward.
>>156349789
It's another red string of fate anime.
>>156352503
I mean if you refuse to accept the truth then by all means kindly get out of my face.
>>156349789
Someone post the edited version they used in the dub that made it even more erotic.
GURL POWAH
>>156352533
In cup size?
I can never get past the first couple of episodes. The humor is just so forced, and terrible (even for anime.)
What are those two even arguing about?
>>156352564
>censoring anime specifically made for adults
Do Americans really do this?
>>156352553
If you refuse to say what that "truth" is, don't be surprised when no one accepts it.
>>156351719
Why are you asking me? I've fapped to both without issues.
>>156352605
It gets worse, not just the animation, but also how the action scenes are handled become bad.
>>156352605
I must not have seen more than 3 anime then.
Especially 95% of the comedies, where the humor consists in one character remarking how another character is doing something silly.
>>156352618
For TV ver. only they cut the fingering from the bath rape, left the audio, and cut to the chakra map. That was it. Anon just wants people to post the nipple edits.
>>156352681
>I must not have seen more than 3 anime then
Apparently..
>Clothes are powerful.
>They are particularly powerful on women.
>The most powerful dresses in the world are mourning dresses (Ryuko's black uniform that she found in the ruins of her father's home), wedding dresses (this is literally what the world's best mother calls eyebrow's kamui), and slutwear (no shit).
>Everyone has to eventually let go of their mourning dress and turn towards the future.
>>156352628
You can't accept the truth if its forced upon you. Once you simmer down you'll realize what i meant.
>>156352677
The best choreographed fights are in episodes 3, 15 and 21.
>>156352605
I don't get why it's so revered outside of just being lewd.
>>156352772
Why don't you stop bullshitting and just say what you mean? Do you think that you're some sort of wise guru? Because you just sound like a jack-off who get evasive as soon as someone wants a straight answer.
>>156352871
Why are you getting so aggressive? Its kinda cute actually.
Just fuck already.
>>156352902
It's cute that you think that anyone going to take you seriously.
>>156350542
>>156352533
With all the shit Nonon has with her,is it wrong to think that she's a little?
I can't be the only one who thinks this
>>156355248
a little what anon?
>>156349789
That Ryuko is my waifu.
>>156349789
you posted it
>>156349789
Breed this bunny.
>>156350277
eeeh...
GL has some messages here and there, mostly about the human anture and condition but it's a bit all over the place.
Nobdy sane will deny the main appeal isn't the over the top action.
>>156352533
I miss Nonon'svoice
That the jews did 9/11.
>>156358039
I want more deadpan lolis that sound like they smoke a pack of cig a day.
I wish kiriha had the same voice as nonon.
>>156349789
F U N
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>>156350657
>ugly
>>156352724
nice
>>156349841
la kill
Every living thing is born without reason, sustains itself out of weakness, and dies by chance.
>>156350688
>that
>beta
typical christcuck bias
No one can wear those clothes like you, so flaunt what you got.
>>156352581
>ywn impregnate Mako
Why live?
>>156349789
Fate is something that can chain you down and own you but also something you can own if you have someone to own it with.
>>156349980
Wasn't the whole point of that bit to prove a point about not being ashamed of your naked self (i.e who you are) or something like that though?
The whole point is that it was fucking garbage.
I never found out because as soon as she stopped being embarrassed my penis lost interest so I stopped watching.
>>156349789
To oggle at jiggling boobs and asses while the MCs are doing Imaishi thing. It's the same as TTGL or Panty or FLCL.
>>156359771
exactly but why do gainaxfags think those shows have depth and shit ? TTGL is one of my favs anime but how retarded are you to think that it has a massage and depth !
>>156349789
Klk is funny, everybody agrees that there is some super important "message" that it is trying to say but nobody can agree on what it is.
In reality its just a overly sexual parody.
>>156360121
They've been doing it since Nadia and Eva.
>>156349980
Literally die in a fire FEMINIST KIKE!
>>156352311
yes
>>156349789
Same as every Imaishi show.
A poorly assembled political strawman according to which every form of authority and every rule and regulation are inherently evil.