>Design badass >Does nothing What was his point?

>>156320835
>Design badass
Thats the answer. Looking Badass. Nothing else.
Okay maybe fap material for woman/faggots.

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>>156321659
>fap material

well, you're not wrong

still would've liked for him to actually do something though

>badass
he's just a buff Rufio

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>>156320835
Let me tell you two useful pieces of information
One: OP is a fag.
Two: Implying klk had a point to begin with.

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So..

...Tsumugu thread?

>>156320835
Bully Ryuko.

>>156323567
KLK wasn't exactly subtle with the points it was making.

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>>156320835
>Design badass
>Does nothing
Got your back, senpai.

Red hair-ring to make us think he was Ryūko's uncle. Otherwise, he'd be a totally pointless character, right?

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>>156320835
He was supposed to do something with the anti-life fiber bullet but they rushed the fuck out of the ending and forgot it existed.

>>156325124
Was he?

He was clearly supposed to be more important, but since Nakashima had no idea of what he was doing it ended up nowhere.
What a waste.

The entire naked beach faction seemed to get sidelined hard for Satsuki's gang

>>156325478
>naked beach

It's NUUUUUUUUUDDDIIIIISSSSSTT BEEEEAAAACCCCHHHH

>>156325374
He and ryuuko were originally going to be related or something but the story went through so many revisions it was scrapped which probably led him to being jobber with a great design
He probably had a bigger role before the revisions

>>156320835
His point was being the Rossiu of KLK.
Both are introduced in the early episode that foreshadows the thematic conflict of the series, both are sceptic characters that reject the ideas the MC has to uphold, both are ultimately proved wrong.
>>156325155
The bullet already fulfilled its narrative purpose.
>>156325427
That's wrong though.
>>156325478
If you were under the impression that Nudist Beach were meant to play a bigger role than support you weren't paying attention.
>>156325707
Literally no source, because it's blatantly wrong.

>>156325478
I'm glad because they doubled down on pretty good characters rather than nearly nobodies

They already had good back stories and I'm a sucker for Gamagori

>>156325478
Student council were fun characters but they ate way too much screen time. Second half needed to focus on the life fibers/Ragyo main plot badly and it kept fucking around. Ryuko's development was a total mess too.

>>156320835
To be a jobber. Usually.

>>156326242
>Second half needed to focus on the life fibers/Ragyo main plot badly
Good thing that was the only focus after the brief Kansai arc.
>Ryuko's development was a total mess too.
How so?

>>156323355
RU-FI-O! RU-FI-O! RU-FI-O!

kill la kill was shit

>>156326519
Kansai arc wasn't brief, it took three whole episodes. The second half had to expand the scale from highschool skirmishes to a global alien invasion and it was done very poorly.
We get a long-ass "tournament" arc at the end of the first cours to set up Ryuko as an accomplished heroine and "get rid" of the four devas. But she gets rekt anyway and the other guys stick around so who cares in the end. Then Ryuko comes back as an accomplished heroine and... oh she gets mind controlled in a completely pointless episode.

Anyone with a brain knows it will end up as Ryuko and Senketsu against Ragyo but the set up is horrible: no one cares about Satsuki's plan because we know it won't work anyway, and Nudist Beach is just... there.

>>156325825
>reject the ideas the MC has to uphold, both are ultimately proved wrong
What ideas? Beating up bad guys with you clothes friends?

>The bullet already fulfilled its narrative purpose.
Which purpose? It only told us that Ryuko was dangerous and Nudist Beach were thinking about offing her. Except they never could since they spent the rest of the series jobbing.

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>>156320835
They shouldve fucked

>>156328068
>We get a long-ass "tournament" arc at the end of the first cours to set up Ryuko as an accomplished heroine and "get rid" of the four devas.
Did you pay absolutely no attention? The first cour wasn't meant to set up Ryuko as an accomplished heroine. It was meant to show how her close minded anti-establishment attitude and lack of foresight let her be completely manipulated by Satsuki in every step of the way, only increasing Honnouji's power.
>Then Ryuko comes back as an accomplished heroine and... oh she gets mind controlled in a completely pointless episode.
Then you misunderstand again. Getting over her thirst of revenge didn't resolve the major flaw of her character, her egoism and lack of responsability that only lets her take action because of immediate desires. Satsuki manipulated her into following her to Osaka, Satsuki manipulated her into coming back to the school, and then Ragyo manipulates her into getting captured.
I suggest you to watch the series again, paying attention to all the times Satsuki criticizes Ryuko for her lack of ambition and all the times Ryuko says that she doesn't care about justice or saving the world, flaws that she overcomes, becoming an accomplished heroine, only after being saved and making peace with Satsuki, when the two make up for the thing the other lacks: Satsuki gives Ryuko purpose and structure, Ryuko gives Satsuki ethics.

>>156327851
We know that since 2013 though.

>>156328748
>It was meant to show how her close minded anti-establishment attitude and lack of foresight let her be completely manipulated by Satsuki in every step of the way, only increasing Honnouji's power.
Establishment is the bad guy here and Satsuki's aim is idiotic. She can't beat her mother on her own terms. Setting her back and making Satsuki look right makes no sense.
>Getting over her thirst of revenge didn't resolve the major flaw of her character, her egoism and lack of responsability that only lets her take action because of immediate desires.
So her main character flaw is being too hotblooded in a show paying hommage to hotblooded action shows? That makes again a lot of sense, right?
Sounds like you're trying to find meaning in the writing flaws.

>>156321659
>fap material
Hadn't considered this, too bad I don't really find him hot though. Closest to a cute guy in that series would probably be Gama, and even then he's just okay.

>>156329097
>Establishment is the bad guy here and Satsuki's aim is idiotic. She can't beat her mother on her own terms. Setting her back and making Satsuki look right makes no sense.
Satsuki wasn't "right" but she had the right goal. As opposed to Ryuko that was ethically in the right but had none.
Both Satsuki's authoritarian mindset and Ryuko's mindless rebellion were flawed and the two needed each others to be complete and accomplish something. That's the moral of the story. And not even a difficult one to get, it's all spelled out for you in the Naked Blade at sunset scene.
>So her main character flaw is being too hotblooded in a show paying hommage to hotblooded action shows? That makes again a lot of sense, right?
The main influences of the show were Nagai's ecchi manga and Dezaki's classic series, not that hot blooded, but that's beside the point. You purposely ignore Ryuko's excessive hot bloodiness making her lose control in episode 12, and Satsuki EXPLICITLY telling her how easy it was to manipulate her at the end of the same episode.
>Sounds like you're trying to find meaning in the writing flaws.
Sounds like you didn't even try to understand what you were watching.

>>156329985
>Both Satsuki's authoritarian mindset and Ryuko's mindless rebellion were flawed
But these are only superficial characters attribute. Like, Satsuki is authoritarian because she gave a half-assed quote at the beginning of the series and because she has a broom up the ass for the rest of it. Ryuko is "anti-establishment" because she acts like a furyo. There's no substance at all.

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>>156323355
Ru-fi-o

>>156329220
Even Ami Koshimizu on one of the commentary tracks noted that Tsumugu and Gamagōri were very popular among gay men.

>>156323355
>>156327305
>>156330132
How the fuck does a live action sequel to an 40 year old animated Disney movie turn out so good?

>>156330126
No, Satsuki is authoritian because she sees humans as mindless fools that only follows their primal urges and need to be indoctrinated and stripped away of their will to have value. And it's all obviously caused by her upbringing.
Ryuko is one who follows her emotions above everything, so obviously there isn't as much thought put on it on her part, just a contempt for everything that limits her freedom and look down on her. But that's the point. And again the mindset was caused by her strained relationship with the authority figure of her father.
Seems like you want to move the goalpost but you should just watch the series again paying attention and without assuming it's just TTGL 2 or something, with the same themes and character arcs.

>>156330685
>Satsuki is authoritian because she sees humans as mindless fools that only follows their primal urges and need to be indoctrinated and stripped away of their will to have value
Speculation based on the "humans are pig" line which is pretty much a standard "look at the bad guy" line.

There's no substance because KLK isn't about authoritarian regimes or rebellion, but space clothes trying to eat silly people.

>>156330152
>all the strong buff men are forced into gay shit
>shitty shotas and beta mcs get harems of women
Lame

>>156330761
>Speculation based on the "humans are pig" line which is pretty much a standard "look at the bad guy" line.
She literally says almost word for word what I've typed in the second episode, right before Hakodate is introduced. And then again in episode 7.
You should stop trying if you can't even remember anything.

>>156325054
It hurts.

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>>156320835

To introduce a total badass character with just a few frames and then throw it out of the window.

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Given that Trigger are huge Marvel nerds, I wouldn't put it past Imaishi that Tsumugu was an Agent Venom reference.

>>156333056
They said exactly that at a panel, the one they held at Otakon Vegas I think.