Don't try to, just enjoy the art and the arc's individual stories for what they are.
Did anyone else think the ending came on too fast? It felt very abrupt, I was hoping for one more arc.
I followed some of it, but I couldn't really put it all together, the lack of dialogue didn't help me either.
Yeah, I loved the art, possibly the best I've seen since Berserk.
>I followed some of it, but I couldn't really put it all together
It's a little bit imperfect near the end, but I'm going to write a revised version sooner-or-later.
I'll dump Blame 2, for funsies, and for those who haven't ever heard of/seen it.
If you can't decipher the bottom panel here: main character in the middle, standing on a warped-ish platform. I couldn't figure it out for the longest time, so I imagine that others can't/couldn't, either.
There's also Blame: Netsphere Engineer, a one-chapter gaiden-esque epilogue; and NOiSE, the prequel manga in which the Netsphere disaster takes place. Not gonna dump either of them, because they are far too long - just letting you know that they exist, if you didn't know. Also keep in mind: the translation for Netsphere Engineer (NSE) sucks and makes a few bizarre, but sweeping, contradictions. If you can ignore those, it's an enjoyable piece.
Shit, I like it even more now.
Thanks for the dump, the only version I could find was mangahere but it had shitty translation and image artifacts.
I wouldn't say that, I do think the author certainly could've included a few more explanations though, it's one thing to spoonfeed your audience and it's the other to make them search every pixel for hidden plot clues.
i enjoyed it more in the beginning, when it was unconstrained by story and that wandering ambiguous possibility. it was just a visual pleasure, it could mean anything, the nature of the mega structure meant he could come upon any situation nihei wanted on a whim. your not waiting for the next plot twist to be typed out, your just watching, purely in it for the ride.
I mostly agree. What really left me an impression to me other than the visuals of course was the absurd space/time scale, I was left spechless in some points, like the elevator part.
what did they do in there that whole time..
ill admit the plot comes together little past half way.
also sanakin a cute
That was me, and I don't really think it's true. Was just using it as a vehicle to piss off people in that thread. In fact, I'm fairly certain I actually *said* that I was doing that, in the thread.
fun fact: Q Hayashida was nihei's assistant
No, that's a baseless rumor. Q. Hayashida never worked as an assistant, she even says so in an interview,
A new official release is in the middle of being released. But it's got a lot of problems: mainly, that a lot of the art has been redrawn across all volumes. It's not always as noticeable as THE BOX, but it's there - shit like Killy's hair being lengthened, or changes in shading. This is the noticed changelog from just chapter 1 (of like 70, or whatever).
Hayashida: I still don’t know how to find the right size and place for them. I think the talented artists out there know some sort of trick to it, but I feel like I’ll never figure it out till the day I die, unless someone comes out and tells me.
–I’ll bet there’s a real difference in how people with experience working as assistants approach things and how people without that experience approach things.
Hayashida: True. It seems like most people have done some time as an assistant somewhere.
Are you talking about the master edition? I was looking forward to buying it.
Shame it's not a hard copy though. I'm from Poland and our version is but I still prefer the English one
>Are you talking about the master edition?
Yes. There's also a few issues with the translations, now that you've had me start to recall these things. In some insane, disassociated decision-making process, they came to rename our dear protagonist "Kyrii". And the first argument that comes to mind in their defense would be that it's the 'proper' transliteration of the Japanese name - if it weren't for the fact that the true English name, "Killy", is WRITTEN ON THE JAPANESE VERSIONS.
I bought the raw ones when they came out 2 years ago, so I know what I'm talking about.
I was making a point about 3D and computer generation in general and passingly mentioned Nihei (with the *intention* of meaning his current works), and a bunch of people blew up on me for it. If they wanted to be an effect, I should do them the courtesy of being the cause.
>I'm also certain it's more accurate.
It's accurate in the same way that "Kiri'i" is accurate. Mangaka write names in the English alphabet for a reason; Japanese doesn't have enough support for such things. The Japanese transliteration of the English word "lock" is three character syllables. ロ、ッ、ク.
not enough "kyaaa", probably
I completely forgot about that chapter, thought you were making a joke, checked, and found out that that is actually Cibo. Why.
>Netflix was a mistake.
Dunno about that. They help finance the movie and the trailers look neat:
Inb4 muh framerate.
Then don't watch it. Simple as that. No one's gonna take the original Blame away and there never was going to be a proper adaption anyway. Japan had all the time in the world to make a proper animu by themselves and they didn't, so it's not like "the true version" got cockblocked by the CGI movie.
i figured it out soon after, i'm an idiot. the real question is, what cibo time period is that image? it can't be her final form since she merged with sanakan, and also killy was done searching for net terminal genes
There is no way they could properly transfer old Nihei's style to a hand-drawn anime without dumping a ridiculous ammount of money and good staff on it.
I mean, it's not a very complicated story.
But WHAT THE HELL am I supposed to see here?
It's not. The director was never seen after this page. As I said, if I know the volume, I can probably tell you.
Yeah, I found out that it was in Biomega. Looking for the chapter. But, my proactive guess is that it is the mechanism by which Nyaldee did some sort of transformation thing at the intro to the space arc.
Huh, I was fairly on-the-mark - it's the synthetic human production chamber in which they produce Narain's giant body; the one that gets nuked right before the end of the planet
It's not the body. It's the chamber in which they *make* the body. See pic.
How tall Cibo is too tall Cibo?
I'm honestly surprised there's so much cute Cibo fanart.
To all here: if you or anyone you are familiar with knows Elemhunter, the guy who's supposed to be scanning the Japanese reprints of Blame, please, let me know. I need to have a word with him about certain things.
Consider, though, that the lighting is for our benefit.
If you were to look at The City in space from 1,000 miles away, there would simply be a a complete black, monolithic space in front of you expanding past your line of sight in all directions, where there should be stars.
Nihei is to be (mostly) read in order. That's not like a "lol start with the greeks" type answer, it's just practical; there's an extremely linear progression of his art style throughout his works.
You're going to want to read NOiSE, then Abara, then Biomega, then the 3 chapters of Blame Gakuen. If you can still respect Nihei after the second half of Biomega and all of Gakuen, then move on to Sidonia and then his current work, Aposimz.
Wouldn't it be radiating a lot of heat?
I'm no physicist, but all that energy has to go somewhere.
No, and the widespread translation of it is wrong.
Entirely dependent on how Nihei wants to frame it. The City creates its own gravity in order to prevent itself from collapsing. Its material is teleported into place instead of being physically brought in. It never moves, and has extremely low function in comparison to any real living environment.
Took me a while to find this one.
I strongly suggest this too, unironically my favourite manga. On the topic of gritty artstyles I'd recommend Franken-Fran and Fire Punch too,
I'm sorry that you wasted your effort, for I have that image on a far-grander scale. 見るがいい！
Silicon Life doesn't necessarily have the same units of time as humans do.
One thing I never quite got was how the bald safeguard version of Sanakan, the one that tried to kill the electric fishermen inhabiting TOHA industries, transitioned into the governing agency version. If she always was a governing agency agent, why was she with the safeguards during her first appearance? I always thought the safeguards were never real people to begin with and more a sort of AI entites.
I only understand the top panel, because I have this manga fucking photographically memorized. Not sure what the rest of it is.
Those who complain about Netflix and the anime simply and completely missed the point.
It's not either we have hand-drawn anime or a 3D anime.
It's either we have a 3D anime or NOTHING at all.
In this environment and economy, asking a studio a hand-draw Biomega or Sidonia is like asking them if they'd like to go bankrupt.
So, either avoid the anime (same as how many avoid the Berserk anime) or enjoy it for what it is and be glad that it helped bring new people into Nihei shit. Being mad at Netflix achieves shit all.
Hand drawn animation isn't as costly as you may think. Also there's literally no way Netflix can go bankrupt at this point, but they probably won't make a profit either, in which case they should leave it the fuck alone and adapt more accessible shit.
That train of thought goes both ways. The existence of an adaption doesn't diminish the original. It may even help the original author get a bit more recognition in what's already a pretty shitty job with long working hours.
i read blame long time ago, so i dont rember the deal about humans and there DNA. the humanoid on the serie (the not silicon or programs) where human whitout s "pure human dna"? or they where human-like beings, in a world almost humanless?
also what was killy and Chibo (sorry but i read it a long time ago)
So is Nihei only working on the animu now or are there any manga he's announced?
he has a new manga, which doesnt seem that great
I'm not him. And do you not understand the value of exclusivity? Do you not have any idea of how disgusting and diluted the Nihei fanbase has become in the past few years? There was once intelligent and complicated threads about Nihei works. There was once a time when every single mention of Nihei didn't precede an "I DON'T GET IT" post or a "THIS MANGA IS SHIT" post, or an "IT'S TOO DARK" post. The extremely-deliberate attempts at mass appeal in Sidonia gave Nihei the masses he wanted, and permanently ruined virtually all discussion of his works.
The discussions before were far in between and almost non existent even if you think of them as more serious or whatever. If the fan base and grown that has certainly not changed one bit, the serious discussions you love so much are still there and probably increased, you're just unable to recognize them because they now form part of a bigger pool of more light or shittier discussions and posts.
Wow, what a hilarious and Nihei Original idea; I'd never thought of the comedic potential of a teenage boy walking in on a teenage girl undressing
This is current Nihei
In the next chapter, the male main character survives by drinking the female main character's piss. But you knew that, and were waiting for me to bring it up. Why?
His art isn't anything like it used to be. His stories aren't even vaguely comparable. He's becoming Tite Kubo (pic is an actual page from his new work). What are you expecting me to say?
Yeeeeah, I pretty much haven't read anything after Sidonia.
Mind naming the oneshot (unless it's Blame2, which I'd read already)?
Goddaaamn, the art looks even more simplistic than Sidonia.
I don't see much of that in this thread, friend.
There were some comfy Nihei threads, agreed,
but you can only about a limited pool of material so much.
But yeah, the art is fucking nothing compared to Blame and he seems to be pandering to moeshitters even more than before.
Ningyou no Kuni, or Country of Dolls. It is/was essentially a prototype for Aposimz.
I'm glad that at least someone here is willing to agree with me on the art, at least. There isn't much intelligent discussion in this thread, but what can you truly expect from a Blame thread that started with "I don't get it"?
>that volume where the only thing he said was a grunt
>spoke almost one hundred words
In an English translation. One of many. And not even vaguely true. I just counted now - in the Tokyopop translations, Killy says 45 words in the first 3 chapters.
It doesn't bother me that much but let's not pretend the changes he's making are purely populist.
I just hope he creates more gorgeous art instead of falling down the popularity rabbithole.
look at this shit though
>let's not pretend the changes he's making are purely populist.
>I just hope he creates more gorgeous art instead of falling down the popularity rabbithole.
>Nihei: So after about ten years of that, I decided to try doing a normal manga for once – change up my art style, try to make as user-friendly a manga as possible. Knights of Sidonia is one of the results of that.
>Interviewer: The art in Knights of Sidonia does seem quite different from your previous work.
>Nihei: Yeah, I wanted the art to have a Tezuka-level mass appeal. (laugh)
Compared to this page in Aposimz, I'd say the detail level stayed roughly the same on his architecture shots, though he got lazier with the screentone and hatching. Also the architecture here and in Sidonia got a softer look it it. Less ruler precision and more freehand.
If the movie turns out somewhat successful, I'd love to see Dhomochevsky's arc adapted. It's pretty self contained within the overall story and has a strong set of characters.
You can't say that there is even a single page in Sidonia that has this kind of complexity.
Despite his obvious attempts at making more mainstream manga, his stuff is still pretty weird and involves a lot of the same recurring subject matter. I don't really buy into this idea that he's "sold out" when his manga is still very "him".
No one is gonna ask nihei to write something that isn't at least a little weird. That's because he is at heart, kinda weird. So this is the result.
It's not really selling out, as much as trying to be more appealing.
Would you like a MMO in Blame universe ?
What if it is distributed with own darknet DHT ?
What if it has no mods/gamemasters (think Second Life, but no one will censor you)?
What if it has cryptocurrencies hooked in including its owns related to amount of donated storage/processing power/in-game activities.
What if it has API hooks for uploads and connecting RL equipment ?
Took me fucking long enough time to get the raws for Blame Gakuen and So On. They're virtually impossible to get, for some reason. The text on the scanlated version of this page is, indeed, incorrect; it has one more negative than it should, as >>156278331 pointed out.
Because I have found that it is a nigh-impossible task to get the raws in a normal fashion, I have uploaded them myself to mega, for you all to enjoy.
it started out fine, then shot out in a bunch of different directions near the middle and turned into a gigantic fucking mess and it was the first in the "fuck it, I'm bored with this thing,here's a shit ending", series.
Sidonia was next and the retards wiling to follow that power armor in the snow manga all the way to the end will have it as well. Blame was so fucking simple he couldn't fuck it up, guy was looking for thing, guy found thing, the end. he will never top it.
I'm not sure about this