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>the anime retconned
Ymir'smindless titan design so its pointy claws and teeth don't appear until after Marcel is eaten
What did they mean by this?
All those titan short jokes and Ymir transforms into a fucking troll.
You know what the story needs? For the enemy to become even more faceless of course, so all the warriors should switch sides! Who needs good antagonists when you can just have a thousand nameless blobs to fight instead? Annie, Reiner, Zeke, Gabi, Falco, all of them should go help the saints in the SL to destroy their home
>mfw I was at the edge of my seat even though I knew what was going to happen
It was a great episode and I'm glad they didn't put any filler in it
Isayama had creative input on the making of the anime. He probably clarified his art style in the anime. Marcel probably had a Titan that had the claws and teeth power that Ymir inherited when she ate him. I'm guessing that's the Jaw Titan power given their forms are almost identical and both give emphasis to their claws and teeth. If so, Galliard is the one who ate Ymir.
Would anyone care to refresh my memory?
If I recall correctly, it wasn't until the Uprising arc that it was revealed Levi was an Ackerman, right? Or had it been mentioned before that? Only thing I can remember is Levi telling Mikasa about the ebin powers they have for being Ackermans
This episode did well to portray the horror and the bleak hopelessness they must have felt in there seeing the Titans crawl up the stairs slowly. The deaths of the veteran scouts didn't help things either. I wouldn't want to be one of the poor souls stuck in Utgard during that attack.
>No LAME filler
This episode was fantastic
I agree, but that would also mean that beast titan's claws and eyes don't change until after
Ymir disappears. So I'm betting this means Ymir ate Marcel and took those abilities, then Zeke ate Ymir and did the same.
Could be that he drank the Armor serum like Eren did and gained the armor part of his Titan form. He looks almost identical to Ymir's Titan form in both how he looks and how he fights and the claws/teeth aspect of his Titan too. We know that Ymir was most likely fed to someone for her shifter powers and right now, Galliard fits the bill the most.
Unless it's part of a mindless titan changing after eating someone. Frieda got boobs, Eren grew in size and Ymir got sharp teeths and claws. Jaw's power also seems to be half-armor
More plausible than >>156238143 given how the only ones there were Zeke/Pieck/Reiner/Bert. And seeing how Pieck didn't demonstrate any of Ymir's Titan traits and neither did Reiner or Bert, Zeke is probably the one that ate her. Unless they shipped her back to Marley for someone else to eat.
Yeah, plus the Eldian Cadets seem to know that only the Beast and Armored Titans are up for grabs. If Ymir was still alive and held captive, surely Marley would want to give her power away to one of the Cadets as well.
Not him but it's not that obvious right now. Zeke or Pieck could have done the same. Galliard is just the likeliest candidate of the currently introduced characters to have eaten Ymir.
>Unless they shipped her back to Marley for someone else to eat.
When she was writing the letter, they were probably on a ship. They also gave her new clothing.
I mean, I know he must've known all along, but we didn't up until then, did we?
I just remember there being a reveal of someone being an Ackerman during a conversation Kenny was having with someone else or something like that, I guess I should just go ahead and reread the stuff, don't even remember when was it that Levi told Mikasa they were related or if she already knew
I don't think so. Unless they shipped Ymir back to Marley with Reiner on the boat as well and Reiner came back to Paradis just in time to fight the SL in Shiganshina. I think they were probably writing that letter in one of Shiganshina's abandoned houses. Then either Zeke/Pieck ate her or they shipped her back to Marley with some escorts to feed her to someone back there.
From his brief interaction with Eren, Zeke already comes off as a bit of an overprotective onii-chan. If he gets to really know Eren personally, I bet he'll go full brocon for Eren.
Nah even if Zeke and co. accepted her, the Marleyan authorities sure as hell wouldn't want a former cult goddess named Ymir of all things to be one of their warriors. They'll probably immediately order one of their more loyal warriors to eat her.
>I don't think so.
It looks like she is wearing clothing from marley, since her pants look more modern.
Yeah but the difference is he knows Eren went through the exact same thing he did in his childhood, being brainwashed by Grisha. But unlike him Eren didn't have Marley to tell him the truth (in his eyes), so he'll likely be more understanding of Eren than Grisha and maybe try to bring him over to their side gently.
Eren was faced with truth countless times, he still insists and will until his last full of denial day. Like Grisha.
It's not that, she is wearing new clothes and doesn't look like she's being mistreated or restrained in any way.
She still has her powers too, she could probably run away or kill as many Marleyans as she could before getting killed so her power won't fall in their hands, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Also Ymir is a huge liar and I wouldn't be surprised if her letter contained a bunch of lies to put Historia's mind at peace.
>Ymir can read those old letters (possibly a spy from another country?)
>Bertolt says "lets live and return to our homeland"
Now that Ymir's reveal was finally animated I thought I could get a laugh from Reddit animeonlyfags' theories from last episode
>Not a single person ever suspected Ymir
>Niggers thought Zeke was throwing titans inside the walls from the outside and that's why there was no breach
>Some others thought the Dancing Titan was Connie because of his mom being turned into one
I should've known better lads, Ymir's reveal in the manga was way fucking better since we hadn't seen her Titan form before and the anime's trailer kind of ruined that
That's what we know, Zeke doesn't know that. From his point of view, Eren is just a poor brainwashed victim of Grisha who didn't have anyone to tell him the truth. So I'm guessing he'll try and be the good big bro and try and help Eren but of course this being Eren things won't go well. I'm still fully expecting Zeke to finally betray Marley in the end due to his love for Eren and maybe die protecting him or something.
>Niggers thought Zeke was throwing titans inside the walls from the outside and that's why there was no breach
>Some others thought the Dancing Titan was Connie because of his mom being turned into one
>I already have everything planned out till the very end, but I shouldn’t say much. I try not to use the words “good and evil” and “justice” much. I plan on taking the story while not deciding just who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. I plan on still deceiving the fans, but…if you read without putting too high of expectations, I think you’ll be able to enjoy it a lot more!
>Zeke was throwing titans inside the walls from the outside
To be fair that also sounded like a possibility. We saw from Mike's death that the Beast Titan can throw shit great distances at incredible speeds not to mention he's been shown scaling the wall too. People who don't immediately think that the serum/Zeke's scream must have titanized the villagers and haven't connected the dots yet would assume that it's just Zeke throwing Titans over the wall.
There aren't two titans with the same power at once. We've seen all 9 now.
Jaw has a reinforced jaw that can easily crunch through metal and shit.
Ymir's has sharper claws and teeth that can slice through flesh and wood without issue.
I don't think she said all of this in the manga, that made it even worse jesus
Neither of them is in the right, both parties act like retards. But of course it's hard to try a reasonable route if that cold get you killed as long as even a tiny fraction of the 'enemy' decides to keep acting retarded because of the same reason.
Which fucking chink did that to my waif, she did NOT deserve this.
There is no moral high ground on Marley's side. This isn't a matter of "good and evil" or "justice". They literally execute people with no due process or even any probable cause. This is on top of enslaving a whole group of people and taking away their freedom. They're also directly responsible for literal genocide.
Fuck off with this moral ambiguity bullshit.
>Not for someone exactly like Grisha
I still hope Eren won't turn out exactly like his father. Grisha was a failure, his mindset, his inflexibility and his rageturd ways were exactly what led to his downfall back in Marley. By having seen the guy's memories I hope Eren mellows out a bit. He's been showing signs of it in the later chapters after the revelation. I just hope he keeps it going and tries to actually talk things out with Zeke instead of going for the kill.
Made for a pretty lewd death that's for sure. Got a boner hearing her beg her father to stop like in one of my hentai animes. For a moment, I thought I was watching Oni Chichi.
So she's just supposed to stand there quietly without making a sound while the Titans ate her alive? I think it humanized her quite a bit by having her call out to her father to stop. These are people not emotionless machines that quietly get eaten. They'll scream, cry and beg in their final moments like real humans would in that situation.
That's big dependable bro Reiner for ya.
>To be fair that also sounded like a possibility
I specifically remember back when the monkey trouble chapter first came out and the most common theories on /a/ was that MT could turn people into titans / he was the original titan / he was the cause of all titans.
/a/ was not far off at all. Reddit is just fucking stupid.
Reminder that everything is Grisha's fault. Marley would've been wiped out the moment they kicked the gates of Shiganshina if only Grisha didn't massacre the entire royal family on the exact same day.
If anything it'll end with the conversation they had on top of the wall, with the last scene being Eren's surprised reaction, but we won't actually hear what Reiner told him
The next episode will start with a flashback of the conversation Armin and the others had about who they thought were the AT and CT, and right after it'll cut to Reiner and Eren's conversation, this time with audio, and shit will ensue
i just assumed it was old timey childhood discipline
i mean it was completely normal to discipline your children by hitting them not long ago
it was also normal for teachers to do it too
jumping to abuse or sexual abuse isn't necessary
the trauma is just both making her flashback to childhood and think of her parents but also due to the violence of the trauma fixate on being disciplined by her father
she clearly had the discipline coming to her too in the way she pleads she won't do whatever she did again, a lot of kids will scream and squeal like the sky is falling over a simple smack on the bum
>If anything it'll end with the conversation they had on top of the wall, with the last scene being Eren's surprised reaction, but we won't actually hear what Reiner told him
I could see this
Like, have his mouth start to move then the sound gets muted, and we see a cut to Eren's reaction
Then the week after, have the same scene with sound at the start of the episode.
Nope. Royal family relied on the Coordinate to do anything at all with Titans. And whoever held the Coordinate was influenced by the will of the First King which was to avoid all conflict. Grisha begged Frieda to do something with her power and only fought and killed her when she conclusively refused to do a single thing. We've already seen it with Uri who wanted to save humans from Titans before he got the power but after he became the Coordinate he called everyone in the walls sinners and refused to lift a finger to help.
It'd better be something that traumatizing given that it took multiple Titans trying to eat her to trigger those memories. Could have brought back memories of that gang rape and that's why she started crying out in fear.
did her father have a gigantic dick? also this wasnt in the manga
They aren't as heavy as you might think they are.
>People unironically think marley are good
There's no way people are this stupid right? They constantly shit on the Eldians for being war mongering, titan eating, conquers. Yet they turn around and use titan powers to go around conquering land and devoring their enemy with mindless titans. Even when the Eldian king decided to fuck off and live in peace they still decided to go and kick in their door and re open the old wounds.
Face it the Marley are a bunch of hypocritical opportunist fucks. Who lost all previous sympathy for the shit they've done too.
Because they saw the true story of the Eldians, and know they are indeed sinners.
Pic related from last thread.
Why didn't they take the gear from the dead soldiers?
The Eldians are a legit threat to all of humanity and always have been. They were probably cruel dictators that did in fact use humans as slaves for their prosperous society, in 'exchange' for food and protection.
It'll just be revealed that Marley went too far in their hatred for Eldians and essentially became what the Eldians were originally. It'll also be revealed that the Eldians did give some amenities to humans and shit, but they never gave them a choice what they got.
Both will be depicted as cunts that have been fucking over the rest of the world for over a thousand years.
I think that theory is highly plausible. Everyone just assumes the ugly monster is the devil because it's ugly and the beautiful girl can't possibly be the devil. But Isayama would be a genius to flip expectations around and reveal that Ymir Fritz was a Titan who was gifted by the girl (who is the devil in that picture) with the power to become human. Which implies that every Eldian is actually a titan and their real power is not titan shifting but rather human shifting.
>Calm, elite soldier
>lol daddy don't eat me
>wouldn't eat my veggies or dinner as a kid
>super autistic about it
>parents would lock me in the garage in the dark as punishment
i would scream hysterics in the exact same way as a kid
she regressed to 6 years old where she stole something from the local store is all
she was better than the pair of dykes and mankasa
This is the likeliest scenario. I doubt Eldians were all that good either. They like to depict themselves in history as having been saints but that's just the nationalism speaking. Likewise with Marley. Their versions are both probably exaggerated versions of what really happened. Eldians and Marley are both just as bad as each other and there's no one who truly has the moral high ground. Isayama could end it by breaking the cycle and having the two nations finally get peace or just kill each other off and do the rest of the world a favor.
Oh, pockets on pants! You don't see that everyday inside the walls.
Also this was a nice jump.
Nanaba liked Mike so much because he'd protect her from Mr. Podesta.
Animecrew sure is loving their memes.
>she stole something from the local store
Kek. That's my girl.
Hitting a bit too close to home? I really doubt America's fighting in the Middle East just for democracy and to stabilize the region for the greater good. There's definitely a desire for oil involved. It's just not explicitly stated because that's bad publicity.
>the series ends with the Marley capital and Paradis getting literal nukes dropped on them
I thought I managed to become desensitized to titan deaths at this point. I was mistaken.
>that kind of reaction to being grabbed and ripped apart is just the "normal" reaction to "strict" "parenting"
America and it´s bitch Europe use the Media to say that a leader is a dictator and that we have to rescue them, once they kill the "dictator" they put a retard in his place that leave the country even worse.
Same with leaders in Africa, if Africa could improve that would be the death of thousands of NGOs.
>he was born too late to experience the last remnants of socially acceptable physical punishment for child misbehavior
wow gen z, i bet you have one of those happy families where the parents stayed together via open marriage and cuckolding instead of a good old fashioned 90's divorce where everyone loses and the lawyers get 60% of your families wealth in fees
Fucking hell I just finished watching the episode. Does that mean Bertold and Reiner are Titans too? Why don't they fucking help poor cute Ymir...
Honestly it's both.
The US looks bad if we don't attack ISIS.
It's also very bad long term planning to just let them run around trying to conquer countries, because eventually they will, and if they become nuclear capable you can bet your ass they'll use it considering how cool they already are with suicide bombing.
It's about 50-50
Makes me think about Yggdrasil and the idea of multiple words. Also these pages.
Honestly would be best ending. But I doubt Isayama would really do that. At most it'll be a war with both sides losing all their shifters and Marley stops being a superpower but make peace with Paradis and merge into one country in the end. Then it's revealed that the whole story is just an Eldian kid reading records written by Armin 2000 years in the future about their story.
But US created ISIS
>It's also very bad long term planning to just let them run around trying to conquer countries, because eventually they will
These people wouldn´t be capable to survive if they conquered territories because they are useless. They are just useful idiots to make chaos in Middle East, they have the support of EEUU, even the most retard would realize this.
Because I am retarded. I didnt know it is a manga+anime thread. Getting out now thanks.
Christ, may as well rename this series to Attack On Daddy Issues.
I was born in the early 90's, actually. And I've been trough some shit, I got punishments like any other kid, specially for not drinking my milk, and even cried hard after it. But Nanaba's reaction was beyond some measy, meaningless shit like that. His father was abusive as fuck my dude.
Your pic related is exactly that and so much more. Every action he takes can basically be traced back to his daddy issues. The whole reason he's loyal to Marley and believes the wall people are bad stems from his daddy issues. I want Eren and Zeke to have sex with each other just so see how their daddy issues come up during intercourse.
>These people wouldn´t be capable to survive if they conquered territories because they are useless
Yea, let's ignore the fact that Turkey has borderline just dropped its secularism due to the increase in radical islam in the region.
It's why overthrowing Assad is the stupidest thing the US could do, because the rebels are on much better terms with ISIS. Having radical Islamists in control of a nuclear capable country is the most dangerous thing imaginable for the world, even more dangerous than North Korea is right now. Because as fucking batshit insane as the Jim Jung family is, they're at least not jihadists that are 100% good with dying for their cause (though their citizens are).
The US only created ISIS in the concept that, whenever one jihadist group dies off, another springs up without fail.
Yes and Armong. But he says he most relates to Dazz.
webm for the best scene in the episode ?
Would someone kindly tell me the corresponding chapter in manga for this episode?
You don't want nothing.
It's clear that the Eldians are Godddess titan's chosen people and the Marleys life stock, servants and slaves.
This is exactly what /pol/ preaches. Thousands of years ago, a race was selected to be above others by an unknown devil and they abused that power to overpower the other races until their fought back.
>being this jealous of my rarest Sashas
I remember it being said somewhere that Eren's titan killing the other titans in the beginning of the series represented Isayama's fantasy where he beats up/kills his childhood bullies, and that the titan's faces were supposed to look like theirs.
If Eren isn't his self-insert then I'm not sure who Eren was inspired by.
Kenny adopted him when he went to visit Levi's mother who was dying of super aids or something
IIrc Levi's mother was Kenny's sister, so Kenny is Levi's uncle, I've no idea where the fuck Mikasa fits into the family tho. maybe her mother was also Kenny's sister so Levi and her are cousins
The SL have tortured and murdered just like them. Marley and the SL are exactly the same, the only thing that sets them apart is that Marley doesn't pretend to be righteous when they're pulling out peoples fingernails and murdering prisoners. The SL has far more banana riders who try to justify their crimes in these threads so they're far worse in that way
>no Annie the epitome of daddy issues
>it was just meant to be a normal flashback to a simple childhood punishment
>but the animation direction and the way the voice actor performed it means it will forever be canon that she was raped as a child by her father
Is there a character in the series who doesn't have daddy/mommy issues?
I like to think that Grisha was just a massive siscon for Faye and that he never really got over her death and his hatred for Marley and joining the radical Eldian group stems from his guilt and self-hate over her death. I'm surprised he didn't rename Mikasa as Faye after adopting her just so he can see Eren and Mikasa fuck to satisfy his own siscon desires.
No punishment should result in your child reliving it in horror seconds before their death.
Christ, seems like most of the fanbase has daddy issues as well.
>The middle east has been full of acts of terrorism and war since Islam was created
>it was only prosperous for a very brief period with some advancements in chemistry, then it went straight back to its old ways
>but no, it is recent interventionism that prevents them from moving forward
Islam is actually designed such that it's very difficult to secularize, and very easy to radicalize. Islam is holding back the middle east far more than any western intervention is.
That said though, Shingeki is more of an allegory on World War 1 disguised as World War 2. It's not so much the middle east and oil as much as it is a desire to spread one's influence over the world.
Good boy Connie.
That's a pretty stupid narrative given that it reads like a black-and-white fairy tale fanfiction. Realistically speaking, no race is like that in real life. Not every German in Nazi Germany was a genocidal psychopath just like how not every Jew in WWII was an innocent victim. Not defending Nazis it's just how it is. Back on topic, the same applies here I think, Eldians and Marley are both just as bad as each other so it's more like a grey vs. grey conflict rather than black vs. white
OH GOD I WISH THAT WAS ME
i just want to be condescendingly teased, bullied and then head patted by tall slightly tanned, freckled, brunette fit godesses and because i don't live in a attack on titan universe they should be executive office ladies with 6 figure income
They'll name it Ymir, and it'll have this really autistic idea to go back in time with all 9 titan powers and try to lead humans and eldians on a strict path through her authoritarian watch in an attempt to prevent them from going down the same path.
I forgot Annie yes. Literally Daddy Issues: The Character. Her motivation for capturing the Coordinate, her intense desire to return to Marley and pretty much everything about her character revolves around her relationship with her father. I bet if Bert managed to have sex with Annie she'd call out her father's name during orgasm rather than his.
Snow flashback next week.
I just forgot, why were Reiner and Zeke fighting that one time for? I believe they were trying to decide whether to rescue Annie first or do some other stupid shit, right? Also how come Zeke pegged Reiner but got turned into Levi's bitch later on?
>assuming she's my waifu
I had art commissioned for another reason entirely.
Nothing in my post implied that it was deep on any level. Any 10 year old can create a comic where he beats up his bullies because of special abilities. I just remember reading that the titan's faces were supposed to resemble the faces of Isayama's childhood bullies somewhere and I was hoping somebody knew what I was talking about.
I wonder what song they're going to play during this scene.
That just shows that Levi is THAT much of a monster. Zeke fucked Reiner up and was hailed as the greatest warrior. Yet even Zeke was anally raped in a few seconds by Levi and the only reason he lived was because Levi ran out of blades. Just one blade more in his arsenal and his rescuer Pieck would have been fucked up too.
>doesn't understand his own character
You want to post where you read this? Because I am severely doubting this, like, this is the stuff that fanfic writers come up with to justify why their characters act the way they want them to.
Am I the only one who thinks Ymir is more attractive than Historia?
If so can Ymir officially be my wife now and forever?
Please say yes. I will recognise Historia as your wife now and forever in return.
I haven't watched the episode yet, but it sounds like the director is trying to enforce 'his vision' of what SnK should be into the anime adaptation. Or am I just overthinking things and should go ahead and watch it anyway?
No, the reason why he lived was because Levi decided that trying to interrogate him in the middle of a battlefield like a fucking dumbass was a good idea. So Zeke will probably fuck shit up big time soon and it'll be his fault for not stabbing him in the head when he had the chance. Bravo Stuvi
The scenery that's around them is a sunrise paralleling the castle scene. Then they even have Historia looking at sunrises after Ymir is gone in the manga.
Overall Wit has done a pretty good job with their scenery's.
My thought is that Zeke is used to fighting against guns and canons, so suddenly someone getting in up close and personal, and carving him up like a super fast hedgehog with swords, is something he just doesn't know how to deal with.
>not liking Faye
>not seeing how she is objectively the best shingeko
Shit taste you have there.
>but that Manlet for some reason is overpowered as fuck.
Oh shit I fucked up.
This to be quite honest. Reiner and Bert may have filled him in on how the wallists fight but nothing could have prepared him for someone as skilled as Levi suddenly coming up in his face. His lack of experience with 3DMG fighters plus Levi's godlike skills was what led to Zeke's rape. Next time, maybe Zeke will have trained and be more prepared to fight a 3DMG user. Levi might not be so lucky next time.
>Tomino wrote that while he applauds Isayama for using his experiences as a victim of school bullying to inspire his work, he otherwise found Attack on Titan's art crude, grotesque, and comparable to pornography.
I think I found a more detailed version of this article at some point, which explains what Tomino means.
>bert and ymir will never beat you up
Fuck this gay earth.
Yes, it means Zeke is ridiciously strong but that there is something within Levi, possibly the Ackerman blood, that makes him a machine to overwhelm such a monster.
People just think that Zeke lost when they should look at the bigger picture of why Levi is so fucking strong in first place. All while Mikasa also happens to have this freakish power.
Faye is definitely not a who. She may not have appeared much in the manga but her influence is felt through Grisha's actions. Being the gigantic siscon he is, his rage at Marley and his desire to take the Coordinate and crush Marley with it all stems from Faye's death and his inability to save her. Which means indirectly that the reason Eren even has the Coordinate is because Grisha was galvanized by Faye's death to get it from the Reiss family.
>all those people saying that she was blushing at reiner in the manga
If Marley makes a giant machine gun for Zeke to wield honestly Eren and co. are fucked unless they have full control of the Coordinate. We know Marley can do it based on Pieck's own machine gun emplacements. They just need to do it for Reiner and Zeke too. Then the wallists are truly fucked with their Titans can't even get close without being ripped open by machine gun fire.
Why didn't either kingdom thing of this for the thousands of years?
Why not give your titans some giant fucking metal neck armor?
I want to save her really badly.
From what I gathered, it just reads like Tomino giving his opinion of what Iseyama meant. For all we know, just working on SnK is what he meant by working out his frustration. But ultimately, we do know the original concept of SnK was to having giants doing MMA on one another, the detailed faces just seems like him having fun on the side.
This is your MC for the rest of the season.
I'm sure everyone's having more fun with Nanaba than Ymir on this episode on dumblr with her daddy issues. No need to worry about her popularity.
This is your MC for the following season.
Marley wouldn't want to put all their eggs in one potentially treacherous basket, and Eldia just never had the opportunity to try that. And for all we know it would backfire and result in a giant overweight piece of shit instead of some super titan.
Not the first time. Won't be the last time.
This is what I'm talking about. Marley definitely has the tech to do that seeing what they did with Pieck. Do the same for Zeke and he'll be a fucking monster. Bonus points if they actually build him a large machine gun to mow down enemies like fodder with.
This is all your fault Reiner!
Season 3 MC: Levi and Historia
Season 4 MC: new characters
I think Marley just fears what would happen if they had one shifter eat other shifters. For all they know the more a shifter eats other shifters, the closer they get to Ymir Fritz levels of power. And the last time that happened, Marley supposedly got genocided so I think they're rather careful to keep the 9 titan powers separate if possible.