Is he still the strongest in the game? I've been out of

Konami recently went full madman and altered to rules of the game in such a way that it ruined most current decks.

>>156163938
that's a good thing

>>156163938
How so?

nekroz was really strong but konami had shit taste and got rid of them

stopped playing around when nekroz got banned which was like in 2015 or so, don't know what the current meta is

>>156164255
I was a Shaddoll player and quitted right after I sold the deck back when Construct was still at 3. I just got sick of the game's attitude to release new metas and banning them right away, and over time I realized I was more sickened by the community that supports this habit.

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>>156164204
They changed how extra deck summoning works. There's now a 6th zone for extra deck monsters (above monster zone 2 and 4) but their new summon type, Links, allows zones outside of that space to have extra deck monsters

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>>156163845
He wasn't even the strongest in his own series

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>>156163845

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>>156163845
>>156164430
>only winning the duel

Bow down to your master

>>156164374
yeah shaddoll's were really cool, and I agree about what you said, they release all these cool new decks then like 6 months later they ban them and release the new flavor of the month

>>156163845
i haven't played this game in ages too, how the hell do you summon this without the parts being destroyed?

>>156164525
You win by having the parts on your hands, not by summoning them

Its even on the head description

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>>156163845

>>156163938
It only ruined the "centers on getting out xyz" part. The "base" of many other archetypes still work. Links is just scaling the things back. For example, a Darklord deck now would actually be about the Darklords rather than using Darklord to xyz summons.

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>>156164469
Yamero

>>156164430
wait does that mean all three cards on the field or can I toss them from my hand.

>>156164495
Is that real?

>>156164204
So, most decks up till now were strongly based in special summoning a shitload of powerful monsters from your extra deck (if you dont know, they monsters akin to fusions, but easier to summon) as soon as possible. Most good decks would have a full board turn one, and would win turn 2/3.

They changed it so you can only summon one monster from the extra deck unless you have a very specific setup already.

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>>156164495
Wouldn't you win just by reducing your opponents life points to zero anyways? Whats the purpose of the cards special effect?

>>156164495
The conditions to pull it off is much harder, though.

>>156164621
duel is like 1 game

match is like 3 whole games, so if you play this in a tournament you just automatically go to the next round, I htink

>>156164593
They must be on the field, then you tribute all three for her and win the duel

>>156164495
But what if mirror force?

>>156164621
You win the entire match set, not just the game

>>156164621
Because a Match and a Duel are different things.

Say goodbye to Exodiaaaaa

>>156164495
Isn't that how it usually works?

>>156164593

Yes, its real. I think it got banned, but everyone would just concede the duel when they realized the victory dragon would kill them. Given that the duel ended before the dragon effect activated, you just lost a duel, not the whole match.

>>156164625
Seriously? Shouldn't god cards be harder to summon?

>>156164704
>A Match (マッチ Matchi) is a best-of-three set of Duels.

>>156164577
still having 4 cards on your hand for jackshit is highly unnpractical

>>156164761
Except when the strategy of your deck is not drawing normally but drawing all your deck in one turn , like any decent exodia deck did.

>>156164749
You only need to summon God of Light and there are plenty of cards to help you search out the other gods.. Victory Dragon requires you to 1. attack 2. directly and be dealing 3. the finishing blows.
Much easier to block attacks than to block a summoning.

>>156164469
Too bad that on his own he still gets shat on by Infinity.

>>156164649
>>156164661
>>156164670
I always thought this game was retarded but this is a whole new level.

>>156163938

They do that so that the new cards can rape 99% of decks without the new cards so that they can force you to buy the new cards, thereby jewing you with their power creep.

>>156165119
>on his own
No shit. The whole point of the game revolves around building combos etc. Of course a card is useless on its own. Switch it around and you can have a standalone powerful card but a crappy deck and it means nothing. The whole point of Toad is that it is a fantastic support and easy to fit into a deck. A card that becomes more than the sum of its parts is what makes it powerful.

Your argument is pointless and meaningless and misses the point of how the game works.

>>156165205
Of all things you choose to complain, it's the one thing that isn't even unique to YGO. Plenty of other games have a multi games for 1 match thing.

>>156165205
>>156165362
I think it helps mitigate upsets on pure dumb luck.

>>156164388
I don't know a word you just said or what I just watched.

>>156164653
What person has all three on the field and doesn't win right there?

>>156165247
Yeah! That's why True King Dinosaurs and True Draco and decks running Dragonic Diagram are winning all the OCG tournaments.

>>156165624
Rule changes and link summoning were made in an attempt to stop shit like in the webm. Didn't really work without banning out Zoodiacs, which were probably the most degenerate archetype made in a long time.

Post the best cards.

>>156163845
Victory in yugioh these days is literally a crapshoot depending on who is picked to go first.

>>156165362
My "argument" wasn't an argument, just leftover resentment from the fact I like Infinity a lot more but it's faded to obscurity because of Ptolemaios getting banned. If I really wanted to give a proper response I would have just replied with a picture of a Kaiju.

>>156165833
I gave up with this shit after Yami got sealed back up. Back then this shit actually made sense and was fun to play. Fuck XYZ and whatever else they made.

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>>156163845
yeah on a deck with no restrictions, it's a guaranteed ftk win on the first turn.

but a lot of cucks still use konami's banlist so they won't use him.

>>156165932
>Back then this shit actually made sense and was fun to play
Man, Yata lockdown and Chaos banishing everything with nothing to keep it in its check sure is fun.

Sorry mate, YGO has been a mess since the beginning.

>>156165918
>Kaiju
See, that would indeed be a proper argument.

>>156166027
Still made more sense than this imo. And you literally still win with one of the original decks, if you were lucky. Now, they XYZ some shit the second turn and you lose.

>>156164495
this card is useless because the opponent can forfeit the duel after it attacks but before damage is calculated

>>156166125
Maybe you stop being shit at the game.

>>156166179
I haven't played since the original series ended. I could get back into oldschool YGO, though.

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This is all so confusing. Now I know how my dad felt when I played YGO.

>>156166125
>some shit the second turn
Yeah, because standing around doing nothing for several turns to watch helplessly as Yata pecks away is any better. Sorry, your nostalgia goggle is getting in you way. YGO as a card game has always been bullshit, especially since its based on a manga that is about bullshit card battles. You're pretty much just complaining because you're new to the later mechanics. One you get how it works, you'll find that it's jsut as bullshit as some of the oldschool YGO aka put out your combos before your opponent and gloat as your opponent has zero chance to fight back.

>>156166307
But old school Yugioh was probably more even more degenerate than it is currently.

>>156166125
That's only because you aren't even bothering to learn about the new mechanics. XYZ isn't even difficult, it's just a faster summon method.

>>156166549
This. The games move faster now but even back then, OTKs are already a thing.

>>156166027
> Chaos banishing everything with nothing to keep it in its check sure is fun
Yeah, there's a reason why old Chaos deck still pisses people off these days, there really weren't much options to counter it.

>>156166125
>one of the original decks
What does that even mean?

Being a kid back then pretty much limits you to vanilla beat because you don't have the money to access the dumb broken stuff.

Why can't nostalgiafags understand this.

>>156166788
Like Yugi's and Kiba starter decks back in the 2000's.

>>156166549
>Yata lock
Fuck that deck. I almost wish Konami would temporarily reset the banlist so all those fucks eager to play it again get absolutely destroyed by other dumb shit like Rulers and Infernoids.

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Isn't Yugioh a big bloated mess?

Isn't Magic a much better card game overall?

>>156166856
Starter decks were awful even in it's day. If you were losing to one you were either using a starter deck or just sucked

>>156165205
There's a card that allows you to offer your opponent a handshake. IIRC, if they accept then you split the remaining life points evenly between the two players.

>>156166819
Nailed it. People complaining about how XYZ made no sense are like old people shitting on new things they aren't familiar with.

>>156166856
If you win with those then obviously you were only playing with other casuals. Nobody use those in meta/ competitions. You know, like the current scene.

>>156165624
You can only summon one of the purple, black, or white cards unless you summon the new blue card first to open spots to summon the said cards.

>>156166912
>Isn't Yugioh a big bloated mess?
>Isn't Magic a much better card game overall?
Yes to both

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>>156163845
Why win the game when you can make them suffer?

>>156166912
>Wanting to play a "wait and see" game
>Instead of playing the most animu decks with your pals

>>156166856
You are either full of shit or you only played against shitty players. Even back then, people had to grind booster packs to pull off some semblance of a proper combo or strategy.

>>156166962
There's also a new card where you play Rock Paper Scissor and the loser's monsters gets banished face down.

>>156166987
>People complaining about how XYZ made no sense are like old people shitting on new things they aren't familiar with.
I remember getting back into the game and thinking syncros were the most retarded shit ever, but then loving them. I stopped playing shortly after the xyz were introduced, but I have to admit that it seems like they've gotten pretty ridiculous.

>>156166987
Normally I would agree, but xyz, actually just the r4 toolkit, is a problem

>>156167051
That's why I say if you were lucky.

>>156167076
Note, I'm not saying XYZ is a flawless system. I'm mainly calling out on the guy for claiming it made no sense and muh old school YGO wasn't like that. I agree about the r4 toolkit issue but as said, old school YGO was rampant with that shit too. Obviously he didn't know since he's even latching on to starter decks.

>>156167132
So just like the current environment then.

>>156166912
>Magic
That game is literally degeneracy incarnate. The sheer number of retarded effects make some of the dumbest cards in Yugioh seem insignificant, and the only saving grace is the fact that the average deck can't turbo you to death. Still fun as fuck to play though.

>>156167132
You can still win duels with shit decks now if you were lucky though, so I don't see your point.

>>156167211
I can agree with that. There's nothing inherently wrong with extra deck summoning but Konami's poor use of design space has turned rank 4 xyz into cancer

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>>156165624
Synchro was a mistake

>>156167803
That must be why all the meta decks are synchro right?

Is there any way to buy the OG cards in packs these days that isn't ebay?

>>156167803
More like using Maxx C on a deck that obviously runs Level Eater is the card equivalent of suicide.

>>156167803
>dropped the series early into GX
I honestly have no idea of what the fuck is going on there.

>>156167020

>make sweet water themed deck with tons of boosts and a couple traps
>name it FURY OF RAIN
>be playing it on the ps2 yu-gi-oh game, stomp through literally everyone without effort, not even using high level cards

I would have loved to try such a deck IRL, or even online, but sadly I don't think I'd ever be able to recreate it. Being all chuuni while I was drawing cards and announcing my moves like I was in the show was actually.....kinda fun.

>>156168211
Bad player trying to impress other bad players with an ideal opening hand, going first and not in a best of 3 match.

>>156164495
Ummmmm

>>156168211
The opponent used a card that would allow him to draw a card for every monster that the player special summoned. The player then kept special summoning until his opponent decked out and won due to that condition.

>>156168456
Matches are a set of duels. If Victory Dragon swings for game you win the entire match set, be it bo3 or bo99.

>>156168494
I think you replied to the wrong person.

>>156168519
That I did
>>156168494
meant for >>156168422

>>156168058
Some local stores might have some if you're lucky. Best bet is still the internet but you can expect bloated prices.

>>156164469
I don't understand what this does, because I only played this as a kid. Could somebody explain?

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>>156170354
To summon it you need to have 2 Lv4 Aqua monsters on the field then you overlay the two monsters and summon it from your extra deck. The cards used to summon it become effect ammo called Xyz Materials. It can also do everything else it says on the card.

Rank 4 Xyz Monsters are notorious for having extremely simple summoning conditions and a wide variety of effects that allow them to easily get over many fields and also can create a massive pain in the ass of a field for their opponent to deal with.

What the fuck is an xyz?

>>156170780
the new fusion

>>156164495
Before i stopped playing (right before rank 4 became ultra cancer) you could scoop at any time. Unless that has changed VD is worthless

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>>156170780
Lore wise, this fucker became the boss card of the main villain who wiped out all Fusion/Synchro monsters and created Dark Fusions, Xyz Monsters for short.
Xyz Monsters can be summoned without a Polymerization card and are extremely powerful. Strong enough to take over the entire YuGiOh multiverse.

>>156170966
>Xyz Monsters can be summoned without a Polymerization card
So can a lot of Fusions.

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>>156170659

Wait this thing is a trap now?

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>>156171024
Yeah, but these cards are black and evil because they take monsters hostage and consume them for power. Don't trust black cards.

>>156170966
I think I had this way before 5D was made.

>>156170966
>there's a multiverse

wat

>>156171045
Pretty sure this is a jab at newbies using MST to counter and negate a spell/trap (hint: it doesn't work like that). I made the same mistake too many times too

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>>156165205
Eh. The ceiling for power level of cards is still higher in Magic.

>>156165624
Purple cards are summoned by tributing several monsters to polymerization.
White cards are summoned by polymerization-type monsters.
Black cards are summoned by two buying several monsters that match their level.

Used to be, you could have 5 monsters.
Now you get 6 monsters, but fusion (at al.) monsters can only go in one slots.
There are also special blue monsters (not ritual mind you, a different blue) that also go in that one slot.
While they're in play, fusion (et al.) monsters can go in some of the normal slots.

>or what I just watched.
You just watched a run of the mill deck.
Playing your entire deck on turn 1, then winning on turn 2 was the norm for a while.
Thanks to the rule change, winning on turn 3 is now the norm.

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>>156171093
Xyz monsters were Chazz's best cards in GX. I think Kaiba used them a few times in the anime also.

>>156171152
There would be literally no reason to not run this in any deck that has blue holy shit

>>156164388
>>156165624
Same
I stopped playing the game 10 years ago and I don't have the slightest idea of how the fuck is it even played anymore

>>156164649
There's just no way this is even close to legal in tournaments

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>>156171103
Yup. One for each extra deck summoning style. Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, Pendulum.

>>156164374
That's every tcg bro, it's designed to make money.

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>>156164430
>>156164469
>>156164495
>>156164584
>>156167018
>>156170966

phsss.... nothing personel

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>>156171184
Chazz was the best character in GX.
Not too long ago the archetype got some new support and became somewhat meta for a bit. Then it went back to Rank 4 Xyz cancer.

>>156164495
i have one of these, got it from a catalog as a kid, anybody know what its worth?

>>156163938
No it didn't, most current decks are TD anyway.

>>156171103
The Original Dimension split into four (Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, and Standard Dimensions) while two blokes had a really intense duel.
There are also a bunch of outright parallel worlds, like the Duel Monsters Spirit World etc.

>>156164717
It got banned because it didn't work as intended (mechanically didn't work, the forfeit thing), not because it was a good card that was disrupting the meta.

>>156166819
>he didn't realize kids had metadecks all along
>he thought his small bubble was the world

>>156171350
>somewhat meta
>implying ABC wasn't also R4 cancer

>>156171152
that's fucking bullshit & only for 2 mana.

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>>156171259
>no ritual universe

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>>156171209
Not even the most broken card either.

>>156171758
what program is this

>>156171758
alot of bullshit right there too

>>156171831
They don't call them the Power 9 for nothing. At least Wizards was smart enough to bundle off the worst of that into Vintage.

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Hey guys what's going on here?

>>156171927
true, they are still coming out with pure cancer decks though it chances nothing.

>>156172072
This.
MTG the original Pay-for-power game.

>>156171758
>In Time Walk's early development version, it originally had the text "Target player loses next turn." Richard Garfield tells an anecdote about a playtester telling him that he had a card in his deck that would guarantee he would win the game on the next turn. Garfield could not figure out which card this could be, until the playtester showed him a Time Walk, and pointed out the alternate meaning of the word "loses".
What a load of bullshit.

>>156171758
I feel like we can at least have mind twist in modern now.

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>>156163845
>want to get back in to yugioh
>blue eyes decks are expensive as fuck
is it worth getting back to?

I heard people are quitting because of link summonings

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>>156172813
What the fuck is this? What happened to the proper art?

when does vr yugioh start

>>156171758
i dunno, i think time walk is the best one, extra turns are broken

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>>156172898
I dunno but I've had this card.

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>>156172984
And this card for forever so there must a few different ones. I think they're real/

>>156172908
May 10

>>156173006
Yeah they are. Had the last one, had a friend who had all of the above three. You're also forgetting the special anniversary Blue Eyes sitting on a pedestal. Might be more I don't know about.

>>156167803
Was that one fucking turn? Did I see a monster in the magic/trap card slot? What the hell happened to Yu-gi-oh? It's like you have to go to a specialized university to keep up with this shit now.

>>156173021
I see thx

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>>156173147
>Did I see a monster in the magic/trap card slot?

No you didn't, but so what even if you did?

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Yes. No, but those are called Pendulum Cards. It's fun.

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>>156163845
Exodia with two tributes

I remember in the anime a long time ago about an arc with Yami and some fusion dragons or some shit that just literally went and fused with any other monster (Some about a pentagram or something on Yami's head). Were those ever made in the card game and if so, how did they work?

>>156173294
Yugioh abridged is currently in that arc, you should watch it.

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>>156173294

>>156173271
You know I actually have this card lying around somewhere. Was too lazy to really make sense of its effects. I kind of just figured the card was equipped from the opponents field and not moved to mine.

>>156173275
why the fuck didnt he just use blackhole?

>>156173493
Can you use normal spell cards from your hand during your opponents turn?

>>156173493
Shooting Quasar Dragon can negate the activation of a Spell, Trap or monster effect.

Stardust Sifr Divine Dragon protects all your monsters from destruction once.

Hot Red Dragon Abyss can negate 1 face-up card during either player's turn.

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>>156173329
ill try if i got the time
>>156173355
huh they even got the fusion cards. i always wondered about how those things would work. i finally have closure. thanks.

>>156173598
ah, thats fucking gay.

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>>156170966
10/10

>>156173598
so it was one of those "N-Nani?!"

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>>156173275
Nice field you got there. Shame if something happened to it.

>>156171091
when around blackcards never relax!

>>156171145
i remember doing that...good times.

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as a former professional competitive player these threads on /a/ are always hilarious
its interesting to see how people who have no idea how the game works will always pick the worst cards that exist to call them op.
no victory dragon deck would be consistent enough to beat any meta deck of the past 6 years
no your big ass xyz monster that requires 3 10 star monsters won't ever be summoned before I otk you with any deck of the past 4 years on turn 1-2
no exodia deck will ever be consistent enough to make it into top 4 and if it does it will be banned within a month
no stupid creator or god card will ever be played even if it was legal
the actual strong cards were shit like spellbook of fates a fucking 2 star baby elemental dragon effect monster or a fucking 4 star xyz monster that prevented special summons and searched for a global denial for one material
and don't forget how this fucking card was so powerful it had to be limited to 1 for fucking forever

>>156173942
As an anime watcher and manga reader on /a/ - Anime & Manga I always find cardgamefags crying about their butthurt over people getting their precious rules wrong hilarious.

>>156173942
Neptabyss is even stronger than dragoons desu

It's a +1 on activation, +1 on resolution and +1 on discard

>>156171152
>sorcery
It's trash.

>>156173942
go back to your general faglord king of gaygames

>>156174042
I'm not talking about rules you have no chance of getting those right
but some things should just equate to common sense
it's more like going to war and you have an automatic rifle, a sniper rifle and a fucking rocket-launcher to kill people with
but /a/ will always pick the sword and say "any human I stab with this would die!!"

>>156173942
>a former professional competitive player
Thanks this saved me from suicide, at least I know I'm not at rock bottom yet.

>>156174150
yes but neptabyss was printed in a different time
and could have never been printed with deep-sea-diva on 2+ or dragons on 3

dragons was part of a 2 combo otk while removing 1-2
neptabyss is a non-condition-single-card-draw-one-of-the-three-of-me-and-win-otk

>>156174304
I made over 10k with yugi while also having a great time
I jumped off when the investment wasn't save anymore because of random banlist timings
your call

>>156174355
>your call
I just made my call, see my post you responded to.

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>>156174391

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>>156173006
might as well finish

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>>156174527
>White

>>156174221
katana's are the strongest weapon in the world the can cut through European steel plate with ease block bullets AND cut missiles in mid air.

>>156163845
Victory Dragon is stronger and arguably easier to pull off but he's banned.

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>>156174550
yes this is a blue eyes card

>>156168519
The leather anon is a few posts down.

>>156174656
Fuck you.

>>156165205
You need to get out more. Matches are not a concept invented by TCGs. The NBA, MLB, Tennis, etc. all use this kind of system.

>>156163845
>saygoodbyetoexodia.webm

>>156173942
There are no professional players. You cannot make a living on tournament packs (previously) and a handful of very expensive prize cards (if you do manage to win them). An iPad here or there won't pay the rent. It's not a profession. Unless you think you were a 'dealer' taking out your three by three binder filled to the brim with cards bound to be reprinted and with no way for you to know when it is best to ditch them. 10k is not a profession and I seriously doubt you are considering the amount of money you spent/wasted in getting that 10k. It's true that outsiders looking in don't know what's good or bad. They see something with huge attack and they assume it's very good. But Victory Dragon isn't part of that; its effect actually is broken.

If Victory Dragon was ever made legal and it was ruled that your opponent could not resign to prevent the effect, it would be splashed into a number of decks because there is no better effect.

It's good that you enjoyed your time with it though.

>>156174768
Seriously dude?
It doesn't take a social scientist to understand that's he's talking about the idea that a card can "win the match," thereby invalidating the entire purpose of matches in the first place. He's not baffled by the concepts of matches in the first place.

>>156174850
Nice Reddit post XD

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>>156174768
>You need to get out more.
Where do you think you are?

>>156174595
>Victory Dragon is stronger

Nope. He's only good for the final direct attack and even then your opponent will concede the duel to avoid his effect.

>>156174868
Nice ironic shitpost, cocksucker.

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>>156174871
>he doesn't have a life outside of 4chan

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>>156174850

>>156174806
okay I participated and won enough tournaments maybe not to live on them
but you can make a living buying and selling cards
for example the e dragons were pulling 2-3 value per rare and then plummeted to 0 on the first ban went back to 1-2 and then dropped to 0 again
I bought them on set release sold them on hype bought them on banwave for basically nothing and sold them once again
those alone made at least 500€ profit
and was playing this game for quite some time
when I'm saying I made 10k I mean that I made 10k profit on the card game
I still keep a couple of good memories such as my colored rare exodia or the UR veilers because I holy sentimental values to them but sold the rest when I jumped off.
and if you find the right buyer especially right on the tournament itself a one of a kind tournament price can fetch really high prices

>>156174904
Thanks I made it myself.

>>156171614
Ritual Monsters don't go in the extra deck.
They would be a lot more playable if they did.

>>156166549
Different anon, but what I miss was when the game was more of a slug fest and wasn't just a matter of vomitting your entire deck onto the field turn 1 and just being like "break this board" while your opponent can literally do nothing if they didn't draw a hand trap (and even then chances are they can take a singular hit to their combo).

I want back and forth in my card game, not just 1-2 turn fuck you's.

I don't think XYZ, and synchro are inherently bad, but the whole thing of spamming the entire field of them, all with some negation ability is way too much. Pendulum is moreso because of resource recycling and being about spamming.

And yes, Yata was degenerate as fuck. Don't think anyone was arguing against that.

>>156175022
>Let me check trollandtoad
>heavy breathing.jpeg
>looks like i have enough for a cheese burger and fries to night

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>>156175228
What the fuck is an ante

>>156175022
That's cool as a hobby. The secondary market has been a joke since morphing jar, needleworm and royal decree got their first reprints.

Personally, I found the tournament scene insufferable. Literally gave me headaches to be in one room for 7 hours, round after round, with judges for specific rulings few and far between.

I don't know if people actually enjoy the game any more or if they just play it out of habit/addiction. The last time I probably enjoyed it was pre-monarch formats and I'm not talking about the mega monarchs. Granted I haven't played in all the formats since but by the time DaD was released I think the game went to a place of no return.

>>156166549
i love the Yata bird, people hated that little fucker pecking the ever living shit out of them.

>>156175426
If I'm remembering correctly there are cards that are super over powered and they were made specifically this way. However the catch is, if you use the card it becomes "ante" which means the winner gets to keep the card. They are all perma banned since this is considered gambling.

>>156175426
What it sounds like, you and your opponent bet a card, winner takes all.

>>156175426
She's married to your fathers brother.

>>156175426
card betting you mongoloid

>>156175426
ancient ass betting rule where you would bet cards and the winner takes all of em

manipulating the ante is a fuckin funny concept it's too bad people are fucking pussies about gambling nowadays

>>156175600
its all about "m-muh cards are m-muh f-f-friends"
i ante'd up tons of times i won some and lost some but had fun

>>156175523
Nice

>>156166754
Necrovalley laughed at a lot of Chaos decks, and if you ran a decent burn/stall deck like me then you had plenty of counter traps and backups to keep them from removing it.

I'd honestly prefer that to whatever Yu-Gi-Oh is today. And I left it for good shortly after wind-ups and inzektor loops rose to power. Nothing to counter 1st-turn "opponent discards entire hand" bullshit.

>>156175600
Prior to the Internet one was better able to develop their own strategies without necessarily knowing the 'meta' of a particular game. Ante makes less sense now because most people have all the necessary or top tier cards and there is very little pride or individualism to the strategies employed. You're basically going through the motions of mass produced manufactured strategies and plays. It happens in every game.

>>156175857
Sums up why I've never wanted to get into card games, it's all meta decks and no fun.

>>156175927
Yeah, there was actually a short period of time in Yugioh where even at the top levels players were using different tech cards. Now the only thing that really separates a top player from a mid level player is making the right meta calls for a specific event. If x deck won last month, chances are you will see the exact copy of that deck in much higher numbers so prepare for it with y deck or with z cards.

Hope a with any strategy game though. Look at chess and how much research has been put into certain opening moves or strategies to the point where early game moves are rote memorization. The only difference being they don't ban out chess pieces and release new ones for quick pay days every few months.

>>156176049
>Why does the king get a tactical nuke and the queen only gets a uzi.
>I understand we need to balance the pieces out but this is unfair
>And can we fucking do something about those pawns stabbing every nigger that walks in their path.

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>>156176049
>they don't ban out chess pieces and release new ones for quick pay days every few months

>>156176172
This is my waking nightmare.

>>156176109
More like
>I now put my queen on my horse.
>She will now rush at your castle bust down the door.
>This move may kill the horse but the queen has brought down your rook, Right on top of your king!!!!
>Check mate.

>>156163845
Exodia was always a shit deck.

It's still a shit deck.

That's not going to change unless Konami decides to go full retard and introduce a bunch of really good cards that can specifically search exodia pieces out of your deck for minimal cost. But if they do that it'll be broken.

This is why instant win conditions never really work in card games, they always have to be mediocre trash or broken bullshit that gets banned.

>>156165701

Don't worry those will soon be gutted so Links can become the best cards.

>>156174221
I'm not even reading your autistic blogdump, this is /a/ not /tcg/ find somewhere else to sperg out.

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>>156164469
>that's a broken toad
remember me?

>>156164495
Couldn't you just forfeit the dual to avoid losing the match?

>>156176812
Whelp, meant duel*

>>156176812
Yes, I'm still waiting for a retrain with the added effect of "If either player forfeits the match while this monster is face up on the field, they lose the match".

Just leave everything else the same, not like people would actually play it anyway since it's so slow and shitty that you'll never pull the effect off. It'd just be cool to have a version of the card that actually worked.

>>156176940
*forfeits the duel

Fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4fxe75810

>>156177122
Why not post the better duel?
https://youtu.be/U3wqmkZnL24?t=30

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>>156164495
well, fuck this combo

>>156177852
>Go -5 at best to win the match only if your opponent has only 1400 or less LP remaining and has no monster, spell or trap effects that can stop you.

Yeah, I mean, such an OP combination.

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>>156177852
>sell this card in duel links
>only later realize I can equip it on an opponent's monster

>>156171103
Takahashi confirmed something like:
>Original Series manga continuity
>DM-GX-5D's anime timeline
>The 4 dimensions in ARC-V, of course
>Zexal
>Probably all the other manga as well.
Basically, Kaz tried to justify Konami fucking with his timeline to sell cards

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>>156164495
Just use "battle fader", problem resolve.

>>156163845
/r/ing rule 36 of exodia

>>156175485
You remember wrong.
Contract from below is the only cards that "costs" ante, though one card forces each player to ante an additional card (and a few cards interact with ante).

For the first few month of MtG you were expected to wager the top card of your deck.
That got stopped pretty quickly, for legal reasons.

>>156167849
All the meta deck using XYZ. Zodiac, True King, Frog, and Even a Fucking Dino does.

>>156177319
Did they ever make that demon that Yami Bakura was a real card?

Links will save YGO. Extra Deck abusers raus.

>>156178692
But Links are just Neo New Synchro masturbation

>>156167018
> can't be destroyed by battle
> unaffected by other cards' effects> >your opponent cannot normal or special summon
That's some wicked stuff.

I don't play a lot of TCGs. Am I wrong in thinking YuGiOh has gone exceptionally full retard with tldr effects texts? I wish I could get into this stuff again, but it doesn't even remotely resemble the game I grew up playing anymore.

>>156179076
All trading card games will eventually powercreep out of proportion. The game you remember playing was probably a no-strategy mash of cards played by playground kids. As you get closer to the meta, almost all decks aspire to kill an opponent in 1 turn.

>>156171758
Anyone have that combo to basically deck yourself on the first turn using Black cards?

>>156166912
>really like magic
>don't like the art and prefer my anime pictures
>no one I know plays yugioh
at least Eldrazi things look cool

>>156173783
>draw a ball
>called it a dragon
why is this allowed

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>>156179394
Magic's fun, but most card art sucks. Pic not related.
I mostly follow it because I think Innistrad's story and setting is fucking great. Yugioh cards need a good story too. Duel Terminal's good enough to be an anime, but lately, it seems they're just reusing Part 2's plot.

Member when Elemental Hero's were a thing? I member.

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>>156179677
Biggest MC flop in YGO history, Jaden ran literally thousands away from the game with his weak and shitty Elemental Heroes

>>156179787
I mean the card concepts were cool, but Jaden wasn't a good MC, I will agree.

>>156164388
I don't see how Xyz monsters or Xyz summoning in and of itself is a problem. It's powercreeped card effects that sped the game up way too fucking fast that changed things.

>>156176612
Exodia decks are fun to run, takes skill and patience to pull off wins with them.

>>156164495
Is it possible to set this card?

Who was the best Cardfu?

>>156176271
>it's attacking THE MOON!

>>156181714
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-ydhg10UE

>>156171347
Number 86 is unaffected by card effects. Try again.

>>156178936
It's a floodgate.

>>156166022
I wonder, has there ever been an attempt by communities to just ignore what Konami says and make their own intern banlists?

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whats the YGO equivalent of these fucker

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>>156171091
thanks for reminding me that we never got these fuckers in the actual game

>>156167286
confirmed for never having played magic.

>>156172813
Link summons, in my opnion, will make it better for getting back in to. Konami basically took a shit on super fast meta decks by limiting there specials summons a load, nd making pendulums be more more a commintment since they take up spell/trap zones. The game should hopefully slow down to a more understandable pace, or at least have less bullshit turn one of every duel

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>>156167018
Six Samurai?

>>156184180
That requires them to be able to agree on things. Other than small communities/ between friends aka house rules, it can't be done.

>YGO circa 2040
>10 different summon methods
>5 variants of Extra Decks to special summon from
>Graveyard and Banished aren't enough, need to create multiple other dimensions for cards to go after leaving the field

>>156184328
Infernity is a deck where all the cards require you to have no cards in your hand to use them.

Some people in tournaments were found to have set monsters into their Spell/Trap Zones (illegally) to empty their hand. Thing is, you would never know unless you checked at the end of the game, or destroyed one.