Anyone else's collection getting to be a little too big?

>>156152847
I stream, so I dont have that problem.

>only 2.5TB
>his shit is stored locally
>not having a NAS/DAS store the files
>not having a 3 drive+ RAID5 setup
>not having a separate individual drive running rsyncd and constantly keeping it updated in case of data loss

Less important stuff
>no zfs
>no ecc

I dont collect anything.

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>>156152992
ZFS is absolutely important.

Keep it anon. HDDs are cheap as fuck and the anime archive sites of today are very shakey now.

>>156153093
You can still live using a shit FS like ntfs if you backup properly, ZFS is just a very neat when you want to save space with extra compression and better file integrity.
Also, encryption directly in the I/O pipeline, which is fucking awesome.

>>156152847
I just watch and delete after finishing.

I used to think I'd just re-download everything if my disk died on me, but with bbt going private I'm considering buying a new disk to at least have a backup of the hard to find things.

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>>156152847
Yeah, I'm glad bakabt is fucking dead I ran out of space for anime.

>>156153166
What's the difference between this and streaming?

Just delete it. Why bother "saving" it? Download, watch, erase. Not hard.

>>156153263
>>156153166
>>156153021
>>156152869
Fucking normalfags

>>156153260
Not him but video quality, and some other little things like no watermark and more playback options.

>>156153290
Fucking hoardfags

>>156153379
Get out of here, normalshit.

I stopped collecting more or less.
Just sometimes save bluray releases.
In the past I even saved seasonal anime releases.

>>156152847
My image collection alone is bigger than that.

>>156153412
Kill yourself or just take your meds you fucking autist.

>>156153530
I'll decline, now go fuck off back to your wife's child.

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To my credit I tend to rewatch a lot of series

Is the HDD going to still be the staple for memory in the future? Will the SSD take over?

>>156153725
In pure density? Nah.

>>156152847
>I'm storing everything on one hd atm
Don't do that, buy anoother one. EHD are pretty cheap these days.

>>156152992
FUCK YOU AUTIST!

>>156152869
I want this meme to end.
>>156153725
Flash memory degrades when left unpowered, and wears down in general due to writes. It's not for storage. And media doesn't require IO, so there's no real reason for SSDs.

I dont rewatch anime so I dont see the point.

>>156154080
Fair enough.

>>156152847

Buy some hard disk drives.

>>156152847
Get a new drive, several terabytes is $50. Don't tell me you're too poor to buy one.

>>156154247
>several TB is 50$

Where?

A 1TB Ext HDD on amazon is 50 minimum.

>>156154311
Try other sites, here's newegg for example
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

>>156154311
>>156154380
And for external
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178744

I have to get another drive, but I'm too retarded to pick one.
Also, I've heard that buying a HDD and an external case is better than a external hard drive. How does the case work? Any rec?

>>156154449
>I have to get another drive, but I'm too retarded to pick one.
WD red or Deskstar.
>Also, I've heard that buying a HDD and an external case is better than a external hard drive. How does the case work? Any rec?
Yes do that because if something happens to your external HDD you cannot get anything off of it because of the connection with the case and the HDD. Buying a HDD and then a external case is way cheaper and you can choose what you want and can swap out when needed.

>>156155335
Fuck off back to /v/
Also fighting games are best in arcades and pc gamers don't have the mentality to ever support one anyway.

>>156152847
>only 2.5TB
normies

>>156155371
Arcades are dying in Japan though.

>>156153093
>hoard
get some help

>>156154311
hitachi deathstar 3tb
$70
pcpartpicker

I delete 90%+ of my anime after they've ended or else I'd have a shitton of TBs full of anime. I mean four to five episodes are basically a GB nowadays.

>>156157254
There isn't anything wrong with that.

>Buying HDs
>Not uploading anime in a Youtube private playlist and don't share it with anyone

>>156152869
You should also kill yourself.

I just bought an external for manga because kindle rips have huge file sizes. Feels kind of nice I can stop buying physical copies for a while though.

>>156152847
whats the point? the occasional anime i might rewatch every few years or so is easily downloaded within the hour and doesnt need to waste hdspace

>>156152847
2TB? Those are rookie numbers. Call back when you have 16TB.

>>156152847
>disguised /g/ thread on /a/

No such thing as too much data
I have a 6x3tb raidz2, about to add another 6x6tb raidz2 vdev for ~32tb usable

>>156160993
There is huge amount of /g/ents on /a/ and likewise lots of /a/nons on /g/. Boards are like brother and sister.

>>156153468
I'm in the same boat friend.

>>156152847
I have my 6TB of anime safe and sound inside my Google Drive account.

Who can match me? Protip: you can't.

Can I create a spanned volume with 2 drives and then mirror that with a 3rd drive?

>>156152847
Does porn collection count or only anime?

>>156162918
>my google drive account
>MY

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>>156152847
>2.49 terabytes
What truly terrifies me is that this is probably pleb-tier to a lot of people

>>156163001
>poorfags

>>156152869
Same here. It's so liberating not having to deal with downloads. Plus, if a show isn't on Crunchyroll then it probably isn't good.

>>156152847
I've got a NAS server with 9 usable, and 6 worth of externals. Then about 3 in drives inside my devices. I still feel like I'm lacking. You're small-time.

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ITT terrible data storage management.

Remember kids, all hard drives fail eventually.

>>156152847
do these hoarders ever rewatch the anime they stored on their disk?

>>156162918
I have almost triple that...

I'm at over 10 TB and I don't even want it anymore. Somehow I got the idea that I should keep all the TV releases, and I really need to delete them all and get BD upgrades for everything I want. I should do spring cleaning

I need to buy a hdd, but then I need second as backup too.

>>156163180
What would you suggest for data storage then?

I'm not a hoardfag, but I'm getting paranoid that I won't be able to access obscure anime in the future so I want to store a few old series.

Does anyone else ever do "spring cleaning" by shoving everything into a single directory?

I've done that several times now and now some of my files are like 100 ply deep because I kept recursively dumping my root files into a single directory to "clean" them up.

the worst part is the files include anime, hmangas, mangas, javs, etc. and now I'm too scared to actually clean it up.

My total data is around 30 TB gathered over 6 years and I bought a shitload of Toshiba 3 TB hard drives during Black Friday.

I need help, /a/.

>>156163185
Plenty of times. Sometimes I rewatch the whole thing, sometimes just an episode, and sometimes just a scene. Of course, for me at least, part of it is still just "what if" and hoarding autism.

>>156163185
No. Why would they? The vast majority of anime is garbage.

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>>156163180
>Six year old Western Digital and four year old Seagate

I should be scared but I'm not.

>>156163278
Tape for archives

>>156163185
I'm a 'hoarder' (around 10 Tb stored anime, manga & LNs) and I often rewatch. After you've been watching as long as I have, you forget lots of stuff you've seen, so if it's a crap season I have plenty of options. Also, muh backlog.

>>156163337
you know one day soon your backlog will clear itself

>>156163306
>Does anyone else ever do "spring cleaning" by shoving everything into a single directory?
Don't remind me. My downloads folder is a mire of shit I save and then stuff into a never ending rabbit whole of "temp" and "New Folder".

>>156163180
/g/, why do flash drives last so much longer than hard drives?

>>156163180
Ive never had a hard drive fail completely on me, even the one from the first computer I built in 2004 still runs. Its power supplies that I have go on me at the 5+ year mark.

>>156163438
>why do solid state devices last longer than mechanical devices

>>156163408
I've got all of that stuff on newer and sparsely used externals, but I do need to back up last year's 4chan folder and some important notes.

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It's not too bad, yet I guess. I'm thinking about clearing it out some, I really haven;t ever sat down and re watched anything I have downloaded yet. But it's comforting to know I can watch through a healing series if I want to.

>>156163350
Damn, didn't even know magnetic tape was still a thing.

>>156153725
Flash/volatile memory is not for storage.

>>156163278
Depends on how much you're storing and budget. absolute cheapest is maybe getting a blu ray burner and bunch of disks. but I haven't bothered with that route myself

>>156163438
Solid states wear down based on how often they're used. So if you leave them alone and don't touch them they'll last much longer than if install your operating system on it. They actually have a bunch of extra capacity hidden on them that they move to when the old bits die so you don't see the damage.

>>156163440
The chances over all are pretty small, better for smaller drives, and after the first ~4 years the chances stabilize, maybe about 2-4% a year depending on brand. So even running a drive 10 years is about 1/5 odds of failure. It adds up the more drives you run.

Failure rate is based on just time and not on usage?

>>156163814
Mostly usage but leaving a hard drive unused for 2+ years can also cause damage.

Does anyone else use Plex, or similar program, for their viewing and organizing pleasures?

>>156152847
I have 4-5 drives now, but I only really backup images. I should start storing the rare under seeded stuff on 2 drives for safety. Then again I don't give as much of a fuck as I did in the past.

>>156163781
Blu-ray disks are expensive though, it's cheaper to use HDDs.
Cheapest storage per TB I've found apart from tape is the white label 6tb drives from goharddrive. I'm using them for my zfs pool

tapes won't survive an EMP attack
radiation is not good for HDDs and DVDs/BDs
Is you collection end times ready?

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Hold my hand. My current collection is on a 4TB WD Green but I wanna get into the whole redundancy game while expanding the space. Buy multiple 2TB WD Greens?

>>156152847
I only have 300 gb ;_;

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>>156163548
It's basically for industrial use. they're much more resilient to environmental factors like shock and water damage. not worth the cost for your average rig.

>>156164340
Unless I'm making a dumb mistake amazon is listing 1.25TB for $25. Actually not sure how long blu rays last but mechanical aren't reliable enough for long term cold storage. also if you're running more than 4 drives once you'll probably want to invest in a separate computer to turn into a NAS. also you can store disks in a fire proof safe if you're really paranoid.

>not having your collection on gold plated punch cards

pfft enjoy your erosion via oxidization

>>156164734
If you're planning on storing 6TB+ on spinning drives I'd look into how to build a NAS, or buying a pre made one if you have the cash.
There's a lot to consider so I'm not going to bother typing it all up, just googling free NAS and RAID should get you started

>>156152847
If I care that much about losing something then it stands reason that I'd just buy the damn physical copy. Everything else gets STREAMED.

>>156153290
Unless you only watch seasonal anime or stream, hoardfags are the reason why you can watch whatever you want.

>>156165287
That will probably be plan B but what if I wanna buy time and sit at around 6TB? It took me mostly 2 years to fill up my 4TB at a slow pace so adding 2TB would suffice. Or would you say just still go full NAS?

>>156163306
That's not spring cleaning. Spring cleaning would be if you actually deleted the shit you don't give a shit about anymore.

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I really need another back up drive.

I want to thank all the hoard fags in here who continue to seed old shit.
It is much appreciated I assure you.

>>156166019
Seconding this. I've always been too selfish to spent the time or the money to hoard anything more than a few shows at a time, but without the hoarders we would all probably have to watch streamshit.

>>156164734
Don't fall for the NAS/Raid meme. Raid is not a backup solution. Think of redundancy as uptime. Do you need your files available 24/7 and do you need to access those files away from home? If no to either of those, then you can make do with a cheaper alternative by simply buying an enclosure and putting some hard drives in that.

Let me repeat myself since it is important, RAID is not a backup. It is redundancy. You have no reason to be running a NAS server unless you have the requirement of needing it to be on all the time. Businesses, websites, etc would benefit from this. You wanting to backup your anime won't. It can be convenient and there's nothing with wanting to go that route, but do not think of it as a replacement for backing up your data. If you still want to do NAS/RAID, you will still need to make backups separately.

>My current collection is on a 4TB WD
Buy another 4TB drive and make a complete backup on the new drive. Now you will have two hard drives totally 8TB, but only 4Tb of that is usable since the other half is being used for backup. You use this same idea to keep expanding your collection. Need 2TB worth of space? Buy two 2TB drives. One to store files and the other to backup that data. You may think of it as a waste of space but this is what a backup entails.

I've lost my entire collection multiple times from hard drive failure. It just taught me I don't really value my anime collection enough to care about backups. If I really want to watch a show again, I can find it again after a failure. I still keep stuff on drives because it's more convenient than redownloading it every time, but I really don't give a shit if I lose it all.

>>156165891
Well if you want redundancy for 6TB in 2TB drives that's already 4/5 hard drives with 1/2 drives of redundancy. The 2 extra drives is probably excessive, but if you start with one it's going to be almost impossible to switch to 2 down the line.
Depends on preference and how much money you have to throw around. There's also cold storage blu ray or juggling external HDD and other options I'm forgetting to mention.

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>>156166248
>>156166419
You both hit spot on what I wanted. I have 9 HDD cradles in my case so this works out for the time being until I dedicate a separate case to storage.

>>156166248
>NAS isn't backup
>Proceed to explain "manual" RAID 1 mirroring
>Call it backup
What?

>>156152847
Get a NAS, never buy 2, 2.5, 3 or other odd sized HDDs they have high failure rates. Seagate tends to have the highest failure rates which is why their drives are so cheap. HGST is the gold standard.

Current data shows that 4 TB HDDs have the lowest failure rate but there isn't much data on 6, 8; 10 TB HDDs yet. 6 & 8 TB HDDs have dropped in price dramatically.

Everyone says that RAID isn't a good way to keep long term storage because spinning parts, but if you're going to ZFS is what everyone recommends.

I'm too lazy and moving around for school so I just keep 2 drives mirrored and check their performance with SMART every now and then. It's worth getting NAS rated drives for archival purposes.

>>156166248
>Need 2TB worth of space? Buy two 2TB drives. One to store files and the other to backup that data.
I don't know why you're railing against redundancy. but for protecting against HDD failure RAID is cheaper than what's essentially mirroring every drive.

What HDD has the lowest failure rate? Should I go with Hitachi? I need a 6TB HDD.

/g/ is down for some reason.

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>>156166532
just to be clear >>156166248 is advocating mirroring every drive,
that's 6 drives for 6TB in 2TB HDD
as opposed to 4 drives with RAID5

In an office setting you want both redundancy with a onsite backup AND an offsite backup. the onsite backup is for when some idiot deletes shit, the offsite is for when the building catches on fire.
Redundancy is to protect against hard drive failure, which is what were worried about. don't accidentally delete your stuff. if you house catches fire or you're robbed then you're fucked.

>>156167131
>What HDD has the lowest failure rate
WD the last time I checked but it changes, google it.
also larger drives are more likely to fail.

>>156166248
Where the hell can I find at least a 1TB flashdrive for cheap?

>>156167131
WD Black. Hitachi's pretty good as well, if I remember correctly.

>not having at least 10(20)TB of anime in RAID 1

>>156167432
WD black isn't worth the premium on a home computer. unless there's new performance data I haven't seen you're basically paying for an extended warranty.

>>156166724
>>156166732
I'm only trying to explain the difference between backing up your files and having RAID. They are not the same thing and shouldn't be treated as such.

In RAID 1, you have two drives running at the same time in the same machine. Drive B is mirroring drive A. If drive A dies, then you still have drive B running and the server is still up with no downtime. This is redundancy.

In a backup, you have drive A running in a machine. You connect drive B and copy the files from drive A to B. Then you remove drive B and store it in a safe location.

Notice the difference? In the first scenario, if both drives die somehow die you lose all your data. In the second, if drive A dies you can recover all your loss data from drive B that you have saved somewhere else.

>>156167308
>Redundancy is to protect against hard drive failure, which is what were worried about.
There are a lot more issues to be worried about. Raid doesn't protect against file corruption, human error (deleting files by mistake), virus/malware, software bugs that wipe out data, hardware problems that wipe out data or cause hardware damage (controller malfunctions, firmware bugs, voltage spikes), and fire/water damage.

For example, if one of your files gets corrupted in drive A, RAID ensures that the same file also gets corrupted in drive B. A backup ensures that you can restore your original file if the needs arises.

>>156167405
Newegg as some /a/non posted earlier is one of the better places to buy drives. A 1TB drive will typically cost you around $50.


Of course, this all assumes you care about backing up your data. If not, then you can ignore everything I said. I hope this at least gives you a better understanding of backup and raids. Google if not.

>>156165999
Does it not trigger your autism to have those folders without icons?

>>156167853
>In the first scenario, if both drives die somehow die you lose all your data. In the second, if drive A dies you can recover all your loss data from drive B that you have saved somewhere else.
The chance of both drives failing together are negligible in both cases, this is not what differentiates redundancy from backups. not to mention if you forget your backup drive for too long it risks failing for other reasons.

>Raid doesn't protect against file corruption
negligible risk and yes it does
>human error
This is the main reason for onsite backups in an office, but that hundreds of people waiting to fuck up.
just set up a trash bin in your home NAS if your that worried about drunk deleting stuff.
>virus/malware
viruses on video files?
>software bugs that wipe out data
>hardware problems that wipe out data or cause hardware damage
I have never heard of these happening. and a NAS would be on another physical machine, possibly in another room.
>fire/water damage.
unless your moving you backups to your parents house or something, fire is going to wipe both out anyways.

given there's a high fixed cost, your paying up to twice the price in drives to protect yourself from basically nothing.

So I bought a 5tb Seagate hdd about a few months ago because of income tax

I feel like I should build something like raid

I'll wait until next year

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>>156168699
>virus/malware
>viruses on video files?
He's clearly speaking in a general sense you knob, don't be obtuse.

>hardware problems that wipe out data or cause hardware damage
>I have never heard of these happening. and a NAS would be on another physical machine, possibly in another room.
Head crash comes to mind.

>fire/water damage.
>unless your moving you backups to your parents house or something, fire is going to wipe both out anyways.
And what are the chances of your place and your parent's place both burning to ground at the same time (assuming you actually have your own place and aren't in their basement)? And why move the drives physically when you can just hook both up to the net and sync the two? There's plenty of ways back up remotely.

>>156152992
>ecc
Elliptic curve cryptography?
The NSA doesn't care about your chinese moving pictures anon.

>>156169510
The NSA and CIA do and they would be willing to plant CP on your computer remotely through OS or hardware backdoors.

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>>156169510
...Error-Correcting Code

>>156169480
>He's clearly speaking in a general sense you knob, don't be obtuse.
there is no general sense. viruses can't just hide in data files.

>Head crash comes to mind.
you'll know imminently when someone goes wrong with a running drive and replace it. cold drives can get get their heads or platter stuck if left off for too long. but you won't know until you try to boot it up after your main drive fails. now both your drives are screwed.
Mechanical hard drives are NOT designed for long term storage.

>And what are the chances of your place and your parent's place both burning to ground at the same time
almost impossible, that's the point, but most people aren't going to bother
>And why move the drives physically when you can just hook both up to the net and sync the two?
completely viable option, but internet speed and cost is the bottleneck here.

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>>156163180
HDD tend to fail more than flash storage yes, buy they are some factors that the majority of people doesn't count.
1. How clean is the energy you're feeding the HDD with.
2. How well ventilated your HDDs are.

Simply put, don't feed your HDDs with shitty PSUs and keep your HDDs cool( my 1TB one is at 29C and the 3TB one is at 30C right now).

1/2 I got a little more than 2TBs in my PC.

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>>156170282
2/2 And 340 gigs in my seedbox

>>156170282
*but they are some factors

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>>156152847
ReFS is available on Windows Home as early as 8.1 these days. There's not much excuse to not be using a filesystem that heals bitrot and can handle redundancy w/o the need for manual RAID configuration for your data drives.

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>>156170377
>vlc

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Old picture but my HTPC is 95% full. I just got the a 6TB Toshiba 7200rpm 3.5 drive and my anime is exclusively going to be on the existing 3TB.

And I bought a 8TB external drive for the entire HTPC backup (plus personal backup) I got it for a steal.

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>>156170282
I never said anything about flash storage. mechanical drives will fail even under perfect conditions. Google and black blaze have written extensive reports on their data centers that are publicly available.

>>156163009
What, your seed size is less than 1.5TB at least? Get out.

>>156170013
RAID5 doesn't scale and RAID1 is literally redundancy without geographic redundancy. If data loss is important then automatic replication to two or three locations is the only thing you should use.

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>>156162961
Yup.

>>156170639
Bingo. Best option IMHO is to have a NAS and a seedbox, and mirror the two regularly.

>>156168699
Hardware problems are a genuine issue, I have personally lost files due to a bad contoller on 2 occasions.

The first was on a 32bit controller using a 3tb disk. I was filling the disk up then suddenly it appeared blank. The start was overwritten by data meant to go just above the 2tb mark, and it continued writing a few hundred GB before I noticed

The second time was after a single disk failure on my raidz-2 zpool. It caused the cheap contoller to fuck out and cause permanent errors on the pool. I only run LSI HBAs now

>>156154247
>several terabytes is $50
>>156154438
>1tb

>>156163548
You can store data on a VHS if you buy all the right doodads. Way more efficient than analog storage, even w/ paranoid ECC.

>>156152847
How can you store so much anime when the size of the anime worth watching doesn't even come to 1tb?

>>156170706
You can get a 3TB one for 85.

https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-3-5-Inch-SATA3-Drive-DT01ACA300/dp/B00B229W04/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1492743332&sr=1-12&keywords=3tb+hard+drive

>>156170749
I love spotting newfags

>>156170778
>anime is shit
>I'm going to save all of it anyways
how does /a/ defend these simultaneous mentalities?

>>156163408
that'd be a blessing, I'd finally be free

>>156170706
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-4tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/5792400.p?skuId=5792400&ref=8575135&loc=d5f42afe263e11e79e6d32f18453992d0INT&acampID=d5f42afe263e11e79e6d32f18453992d0INT&productCategoryId=

>>156170639
>>156170692
god damn I was just trying to tell off this guy >>156166248. read the post

do you really have geographic redundancy for your anime?

>>156170838
A single series in 1080p could be as much as 100 GB. Don't be a retard.

>>156167853
>A drive dying inside a NAS server means someone smashes the entire server and not just one drive inside of it dying
Ok then.

About 10TB on three different drives. I did have a small 500GB but that is mostly for 3DPD arthouse cinema.

And I've got around 250 or so GB on my laptop and a good 2/3rds of that is Gundam

>>156153250
>i have a tiny dick.jpg

I delete the anime after watching it if it's something I know I won't rewatch

>>156171030
Easy enough to break a BTRFS raid on purpose, recover the live one onto a "fresh" drive, and rotate the orphaned copy to a locker or something at work every few months.

>>156171030
Not for anime, most of it can be easily re-downloaded. If that ever changes I'll consider backing it up

>>156172181
There's some rumblings now. Might be worth looking into compact formats for archiving, at least.

>>156172181
yeah don't know why you're talking about geographic backups. google drive is good enough for personal files.

>>156171809
no idea what you're going on about

>>156157454
god damn hes smart