What's wrong with being a solo player?

>>156087568
MMO's aren't set up that way. You need a modicum of teamwork to get through most dungeons and raids.

I'm a lone wolf

Don't follow me you'll get hurt

you can't fulfill all the roles at once

it's not like you can tank all the damage and deal massive DPS;

MMO's just aren't built that

>>156087616
That's the thing. How do you make a team when the main reason (mine at least) of playing a game is because one cant make friends? Or cant maintain them?

MMOs are fucking dogshit as games unless you're into getting together with groups of other players. If you want to solo grind mindlessly in fantasy land there are tons of other games that do it a billion times better.

>>156087851
Then don't fucking play MMOs

>>156087851
then MMOs aren't for you buddy

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>>156087790
>it's not like you can tank all the damage and deal massive DPS

>>156087790
>he doesn't multi-client

>>156087790
>find the melee/healer centric class
>spec for damage and sustain-out of battle
>laff at all the faggots farming inefficiently chugging their HP potions

>>156087877
There really aren't many that provide the same sense of progression

I think FF14 lets you solo most of the early game content.

>>156087980
Until you get cockblocked by being forced to group to progress the main story. Such bullshit.

>>156087568
You can't get very far in it. Even if you can, it will be excruciatingly slow.

>>156088009
>why does a massively MULTIPLAYER game force me to play with others ;_;
Go play a single player game retard

>>156087939
The progression systems in most other types of games are vastly superior. Especially since everything is part RPG these days. Or are you talking about being able to passively show off your epeen just by existing near people?

>tfw this shit's abridged version is better than the original series

>>156088679
Well, an asshole that becomes less of an asshole makes for a more compelling story than the adventures of little Mr. Perfect

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>>156087616
The Progressive LNs explain that SAO is set up in such a way that slightly favors solo players because of the way it handles experience and loot.

>>156087616
In most MMOs you can get pretty strong without interacting with a single person.
But yeah, if you want the good shit then you'll need to go to dungeons and raids and that does require teamwork.

>>156089504
Overall, the LNs make it pretty clear that Kayaba's enormously biases are in the MMO. Attack skills are the metagame. Ranged weapons are either rare or complete ass. No magic because muh honorable close range combat.

>>156087568
>massively multiplayer
>play as if single player

>>156087568
>"Beater"

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>>156087790
>it's not like you can tank all the damage and deal massive DPS;
>play grand fantasia as a berserker
>everyone just made the shitty fucking one hander weapons at level 50, because they thought the yellow 2handed axe (10% chance to activate 100% lifesteal for the next few seconds) was shit on account of there not being any aspeed axe talents at the time
>they didn't realize that you could use sword talents with a 2handed axe

>mfw spent the next 10 levels charging ahead of the raid group and soloing shit that usually took 3 or 4 other people
And then I never had fun in an mmorpg ever again.

>>156087980
>KotR
>Omega vs Shinryu
I'm curious how they'll even come close to topping those.

>>156089639
jesus fuck how he didn't get fired and sued to oblivion

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>>156087568
Is it time for smug Argo?

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>>156089746
Well, those would have been the least of his problems had he survived. Remember, as of now at least, Japan still has the death penalty.

>>156089746
because he trapped thousands of people in a death game and killed himself

>>156087568
MMO's are boring. It's just gaining experience by killing creeps then buying weapons to make yourself stronger. There are no skills you just hit them, dodge then put spells.
Why do people even play them ?

>>156089746
>getting sued over the rules you make in a video game
Are you retarded?

>>156089746
>sued
for what,,,?
putting the whole death game thing aside that is

>>156089746
He more or less programmed the entire thing himself. My headcanon believes this is why two years of semen & all the other unrealistic sex are the way it is.

>>156089897
Faux social connections
>>156089914
Nigga you don't even know

>>156089855
>These people got trapped in a death game for months
>The spent day after day wondering
>Fucking power outtages or blackouts probably could have killed plenty of them fucking instantly.
>Victim Girls 14
The truly unbelievable part of this series is that these people wanted to touch VR MMOs again after this fucking stunt.
If you're fucking PS4 tried to murder you if you put down your controller, would you get another console just because they claimed it wouldn't murder you like the last one?

>>156089976
>If you're fucking PS4 tried to murder you if you put down your controller, would you get another console just because they claimed it wouldn't murder you like the last one?
People continued to buy android phones after they exploded.

>>156089976
The ones who survived really enjoyed their time in the game.

>>156089897
They don't really. It's a pretty stagnated market.
Even Blizzard is gradually needing to whore itself more and more as it hemorrhages players. If you're wanting the fun part of an MMO's PVE experience, almost any rpg (or even something like PoE) will do, and the PvP in an actual PvP game is always going to be more polished and balanced.

>>156090006
They kept importing brown people after they exploded too.
People are just silly.

>>156089976
if it happened to me, personally, probably not, but given most people who play ALO/whatever aren't SAO players (granted the actual SAO players are a bit off in the head and actually come back to literally experience SAO again) then in the same scenario, people would eventually pick it up again, the allure of a futuristic device like that would be too strong

Also they were all moved to hospitals and shit, those are well equipped for power outages and blackouts unless you live in Africa or something

>>156090200
It helps that they literally can experience SAO again because the ALO devs actually added the Aincrad castle into their game, which could be considered kind of distasteful.

>>156090200
>>156090285
>Microsoft reintroduces Microsoft Flight Simulator with additional exciting Pearl Harbor and 9/11 levels.

>>156089976
>SAO killed 4000 people
>ALO mind-trapped 300(301?) people
>People keep playing VRMMOs
>Thousands of surviving SAO players play ALO, including those were mind trapped in it
>They also play Aincrad again, the place where they faced death for 2 years
>VRMMOs explode in popularity after Kayaba releases his magic program through Kirito despite being directly after the mind trapping incident
>GGOs shitty security causes a lethal doxing by a group of craxed killers
>The AR does some shit too idek I haven't seen the movie
>VRMMOs are still alive

>>156090285
Yeah that's what I meant by "literally experience SAO again"
And they're all pretty excited to go back to it too

>>156090332
There's a reason why Project Alicization was a military project meant for developing killer robots & waifus.

>>156087568
Nothing's wrong with being a solo player. What's wrong is being a Gary Stu.

>>156090200
Keep in mind that everyone that woke up were either the best of the best or normies that said "fuck fighting bosses, I'm going to enjoy a comfy life in fantasy land"

By the end of the two years the former SAO players are either going to want to go back to what made their lives exciting or they are going to want to get away from wagecuck life in Japan.

>>156087568
Not much anon. I solo'd WAR and BLM in 14.

Instance finder/party finder is a love/hate thing.

>>156090364
In all honesty, the in-universe MMO, if we excluded dying & Kayaba's biases thrown in, could be made into a decent game. In fact, the LN stated that Kirito's beta testing deaths did little more than spawn him in another area with a slightly more embarrassed look on his face. Kayaba more or less fucked his own game.

>>156089732

Honestly, I'm more curious about the music and atmosphere. There's only so many innovations you can make in MMO combat.

>>156089795

It's always time for smug Argo.

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>>156090506
When is next Storytime?

>>156090200
Those who got depressed in SAO probably have killed themselves as it's pretty easy to do so.

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More smug

>>156089504
what was even the point of that "he is a dirty beater" subplot if everyone he met later all liked him?

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>>156090506
Argo is love
Argo is life

>>156090764
>>156090904

New translations fucking when?!
Feel free to hate me but i actually like the progressive series.

>>156090934
Because for the Japanese, being hated by everyone, even momentarily, is well within commit sudoku territory. That Kirito simply chooses not to care either shows how noble and self-sacrificial he's being, or demonstrates how autistic and dense he is, depending on your preferred character interpretation.

>>156091004
I think most of /a/ likes Progressive. It's just the anime they can't stand.

>>156087616
Didn't Kittytoe team up with various people? He wasn't a pure solo player considering he played nice with others well enough to get into group difficulty stuff.

>>156090934
All the non-villain major characters are flawless saints, from Kirito and Asuna right down to Agil and Klein, of course they won't hate him over it

It's the faceless schmucks and two bit villains like kuradeel who are mad at him

>>156091113
I think most of /a/ can still tolerate SAO until the pretend-daughter shit.

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>>156091305
This. It's bad enough he doesn't fuck her but that he's calling himself her daddy? If he's a good daddy, he'd fuck his daughter.

>>156091523
He couldn't do it with his sister/cousin constantly cockblocking him

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>>156091523
DID SOMEBODY SAY THE MAGIC WORD?

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Even the protagonist is smug as fuck

>>156091568
He should've fucked his cousin.

>>156091875
His girlfriend should have stripped his cousin naked & double teamed her with him.

>>156091875
But Asuna is cuter and rich

>>156091305
I only made it until like the second episode of the incest fairies.

Does it get much worse?

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>>156091968
She's far smugger

>>156092061
>incest fairies
This made me laugh more than it probably should have.

>>156092061
Your loss.

>>156090474
>the in-universe MMO, if we excluded dying & Kayaba's biases thrown in, could be made into a decent game
Wrong, the in-universe game is absolute garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXCo-InnpU

>>156092606
>dumb opinions from dumb youtuber about why its not like my other MMO gaem
The scrolling menus help prevent freely switching equipment for min-maxing while in battle. Digging through the menus requires a team to cover that player in the meantime.

>>156092606
You're supposed to post a link to abridged series.

>>156089504
I almost dropped the show because of this. I dropped it at the end of episode 5 for being even more retarded instead.

>>156089897
Why do people grind social media for internet points?

>>156092878
Which may very well be an intentional design choice, as min-maxing/whoring is often seen by developers as a breach of the game's strategic balance and flow of play.

>>156092878
Are you unironically defending SAO?

>>156093631
>>156092878
Why not just not allow the players to switch equipment while in battle?

>>156087568
nothing really, I played through Guild Wars 1 and Guild Wars 2 solo

>>156092606
If you want to argue sao is bad thats fine, no one over 18 thinks otherwise
Just make your own arguments instead of trashy youtubers who clickbait for views and cash

>>156093770
Is rare for me to agree completely with some random youtube faggot, that's why I decided to share the video.

Ragnarok online ruined mmos for me, being able to duel and solo most bosses to death with my knight was the best.

Not much point joining a guild if all you get is team drama and a 2nd job.

>>156093684
Because, as I just said, that sort of munchkining is usually frowned upon by game designers, who will then take steps to prevent it. It can also be seen in this case as a balance to the fact that one's inventory does not count as weight, even though in life, carrying multiple weapons would indeed be a burden. A lot of MMOs I'm familiar with don't allow changing one's weapon in the middle of a battle at all.

>>156087568
Nothing at all.

The problem is that lots of games are set up as team games the game itself doesn't give the singular player the potential ability to overcome the obstacles on his own.

This is why I don't like MMOs. I wouldn't mind playing in a populated virtual world with lots of players but I hate people and I don't want to play together with them.

>>156093649
Yes?

>>156093631
>>156093684
Problem with switching equipment in battle is that it just opens up more paths for exploits and makes the job of the developer a lot harder when it comes to keeping the balance of any game, not that it is necessarily a bad thing. If you don't have time to account for every possible combination (nobody ever has enough time), then removing the ability to quickly switch equipment can curb it even if it is still technically possible. If you have a good strategy that uses a team to provide cover for menu trawling players for some kind of special advantage or exploit, then it will be all the more satisfying and rewarding for everyone when it is successful.

Role-play rather than Jack-of-All-Trades, I think.

>>156087568
Nothing is wrong with being a Solo-player who only teams up for Dungeons/Raids.
Unless you're in a situation where people are actually fucking dying. Then you're not only needlessly risking your own life, but you're being kind of a massive cunt by not helping others.

>>156094022
literally no MMO's nowadays force you to to play with a group. In fact, in most MMORPG's it's actually much more advantageous to play solo. Usually the only time where group play is a must is where the game literally forces you to have a party for a dungeon. I'd say that the decline of teamwork based MMORPG's is a tragedy, really. But everyone wants to play Kirito-style, so that's what's catered to.

>>156094776
This

DDO was great because pretty much almost every dungeon required you to have an assortment of classes to pass through a dungeon smoothly.

>>156090200
>those are well equipped for power outages and blackouts unless you live in Africa or something
What if the servers themselves went down due to a quake or something?

the show has potential but there are too many missing character types:

no witches
no vampire/undead chicks
no isekai mc types
no slice-of-life characters

these are staples of modern anime and should be included.

>>156093994
>>156094062
>This is how stupid SAO-defenders actually are.
I said "why not just NOT allow player to switch equipment in battle", as in, just prevent them from changing weapons, literally make it impossible.

That would completely solve the min-maxing shit you speak about and is what most games already to nowadays. My point is making the UI a clusterfuck of drop-down menus is fucking retarded and if your argument is that it is to discourage people from switching equipment mid-battle then I already proposed a better solution that would better serve said purpose and would allow the UI to be actually good.

>>156094776
That's why drop in multiplayer is more of a thing nowadays. It's not that most people don't like playing with others but that they don't want to go through the hassle of grouping up before actually playing the game. Games like Warframe have non-intrusive advantages to grouping up with players without any manual work needed by players, so those who choose to play Solo are actually putting in more effort to do so (sometimes required because there are too many unreliable idiots in Spy Sorties).

No excuse in a trap second life VR world where you have to travel everywhere in real time though. I'm sure that bars and recruiting boards with thousands of concurrent 24/7 players would make it hardly a problem to form groups. Just walking around solo on grinding grounds would have you run into many other players constantly because its all in one massive server.

>>156094838
Then a bunch of dead nerds is the least of your problems.

>>156087568

just seems a waste of 15 bucks a month

>>156094887
Sorry because I did not read your post correctly. However note that it is a requirement that they do still need to be able to switch equipment freely because weapon breakage is a thing.

I can see a few ways to keep it in separated menus while using expanded pages with better functionality for certain things like equipment ones, but I don't actually see them actually having a reason to change equipment very often though so maybe the assistant developers other than Kayaba simply didn't bother for the initial release. Potions and the like are physical objects on their belts. I don't remember how much the menu was interacted with in ALO and beyond.

>>156095022
Please stop the mental gymnastic, use your brain on things better than convincing yourself that SAO isn't utter garbage.

>>156090332
>Thousands of surviving SAO players
>plural Thousand
Nah, it shouldn't be that high.
About half the players were still on the first floor by the end of the game, and out of those remaining, less than a thousand were actually any good in SAO, and probably less actually had a good time as kidnap victims. But hey, Stockholm Syndrome, I guess.

>directly after
It was nearly half a year later. People forget shit fast these days.

Then again, it's still pretty silly.

>>156091004
Pretty sure they stopped because the official TL passed up the fan TL?

>>156091179
Yeah, "Solo Player" in this context doesn't mean "never talks to people," but instead means "Isn't part of a guild or regular party". He still participated in every boss battle in SAO, and it's not like Kirito is the ONLY "Solo Player" that's on the front-lines; Volume 1 has Asuna talking about how it's her duty to check up on all the solo players, which presumably take part in clearing floors.

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>>156094864
what the reboot has
>argo
>smug
>reaction faces
>smug argo
>argo
did i mention argo?

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I honestly wonder if the guy making this shit even ever played an MMO.

Im not asking for full Database autisim but there's gotta be a better middle ground. Ditto for .hack

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>>156095022
>However note that it is a requirement that they do still need to be able to switch equipment freely because weapon breakage is a thing.

SAO Progressive actually covers this.
After you reach a certain mastery with the One Handed Swords skill, you can unlock the ability to quickly swap the weapon in hand with another in your inventory. Though, I think it has to be pre-defined? Reason for this is of course because of weapon breakage, but also because some monsters can snatch your weapons.

>Potions and the like are physical objects on their belts
Only if you bring them out before hand. Usually they're stored away in the inventory, but seems like "items I may need to use in an emergency" are kept materialized.

>>156093649
>>156095096
>Please stop disagreeing with me.
What does this accomplish other than outing yourself as a generic shitposter?

>>156095136
>mention Argo 3 times
>post non-Argo image

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>>156087568
Nothing.

I always play alone in my MMO and I managed to get in endgame by myself with every possible BiS.

Partying and befriending with people are for pussies. Who cares about them? I climbed the summit alone and I will stand atop there.

>>156095271
If I remember correctly the swap skill is for any weapon class and it has to be a copy of the same weapon. It's been awhile since I read it but I think the early game floor that Nezha was operating in allowed him to swap stuff easily because nobody was using ultra rare exclusive gear yet. The trick wouldn't have worked if he was asked to fix something like the Elucidator.

>>156089947
Bet all the spaghetti code is the reason he decided to trap people in game, because otherwise they would notice how shit the game was and log out

>>156095363
Pretty sure the skill worked with any weapon, but for Nezha's trick to fool people it had to be the same weapon. The scam wouldn't work on Elucidator because he wouldn't have a spare Elucidator lying around (being a unique weapon and all) but pretty sure Kirito could have swapped it to a weaker sword if he had to.

Then again, I also have not read Vol 1 in a long time.

>>156095396
This. The whole thing is just muh honor as he doesn't want to be shat on by sponsors, players, media etc.

>>156090934
That whole episode was taken from Progressive. The "he's a beater" subplot has more weight there, and a lot more things going on, but the anime just cut that out, but kept the "beater" scene, while making it so Kibaou's the one condemning him, even though in the novel Kibaou knows Kirito basically saved their asses.

The adaptation for Episode 2 cut out a lot.

>>156095101
It's not Stockholm syndrome
If you like a game why wouldn't you want to play more of it?
Unless you suck you're not gonna die

>>156090904
I read that as Abridged Kirito...

>>156095163
Id like to think he did

But if he were to write a normal MMO, then he couldnt pander the self insert audience as MMOs require teamwork. There would be no instances of one character alone saving the day which his audience is after

>>156087568
If you've actually played an real MMO you'd know.

Back in the days, when stuff like EQ2 and L2 were still popular, it was literally impossible to even get out of town without 3 buffers and a healer behind you.

>>156090904
>mfw I am the earth
>From this perspective I can always see animu girls panties even when the MC can't
>I never wanted this, I am not into slutty girls who would show me their panties even more than the MC
>My rock is still hard though

Are there any good mmos out there or are they all shit now with the typical appeal to casual and Korean pay to win shit?

>>156096001
World of warcraft

>>156087568
MMOs are designed to bring people together in video games. If you want a terrible solo MMO-like RPG go play Mass Effect: Andromeda.

>>156096001
You listed your 2 choices.

Either casual hand-holding carebear with story and whatnot, like wow and ff14.
Or Korean grinder with cash shop, but at least less instanced shit and open world pvp/politics/wars etc.

Pick your poison.
Personally, I'm still on Lineage 2 private servers.

>>156096001
Seriously. What are the fun MMOs in anime based off of? I want to play those games.

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>>156095163
He claims to have played Ultima Online a lot, back when he was writing SAO as a web novel. Though, he admits to not being very good.
There was an interview last month where Kawahara and Harada talked about how addicted to video games they use to be.

http://www.4gamer.net/games/358/G035850/20170306008/

Meanwhile, it seems Kawahara was working as a mangaka assistant. Anyone have any idea what he worked on?

>>156089581
>in most MMOS you can get pretty strong without interacting with a single person
Yeah, in modern themepark MMOs. But in traditional MMOs like Pre-renewal RO and vanilla WoW, you can't.

>>156096191
>Makes LN about being an epic solo player because he will never get good

>>156096001
Do you want to play as a pew pewing laser blasting loli who occasionally becomes a gundam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo3ND70qoeQ

>>156096191
>>156096650
he literally says kirito is the type of player he could never be himself
also this

Therefore, I wanted to write about not only the volume one’s
protagonists Kirito and Asuna and their «Game Clearer» type of top
players, but wanted even more to write something about the stories of
ordinary mid-level players; and this second volume’s four short stories,
have precisely this kind of content. Regardless of which story, they are
basically about Kirito debuting and causing a big stir; and feeling that
he is “So skilled! So strong!” like Silica and Lisbeth felt, is precisely
what I have felt every year since becoming an MMO player. Really, and
once would be enough, I really want to know what it feels like to show
off to others a weapon of which there are only three copies in the
entire server.

>>156087932
> Ret paladin
You are cancer.

From the mechanical pov, Kirito amazingly represents how it is to be actually good in a game, whether you're a solo or team player.

Of course he has some idiotic things going on (hacking scene, beater scene without Progressive additions), but calling it straight plot armor is wrong.

>>156096281

You definitely can solo play Pre-Renewal.

I enjoy the mobile app. I enjoy smugging around the towns as Argo.

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>>156087568
I've only read memes about this series and people complaining about being terrible. Is it really that bad or at least entertaining if you are into battle shounen?

>>156087568
>>156087568
Are there even good MMO around these days? Havent played any MMO since WOW and RO. Those were good times.

MOBA and card games seems like top genres now

>>156087616
>MMO's aren't set up that way. You need a modicum of teamwork to get through most dungeons and raids.
depends on the game. but overall you're right, if you want top end drops, achievements and levels you'll need to team up at some point. once you have your eq, achievements and levels sometimes you can return to solo play.

but again it REALLY depends on the MMO. Some mmo's its simply impossible to get anywhere solo. some it's really easy.

>>156087568
didn't they add some line in the dub where a guy says, and I quote "You're a fucking cheater!"

>>156087790
>you can't fulfill all the roles at once
>it's not like you can tank all the damage and deal massive DPS;
>MMO's just aren't built that


I don't know, one of the most successful MMOs since WoW was city of heroes. In city of heroes there was a class called the "Controller". The controller, when built right pretty much could do every single role in a party, from DPS to TANK to HEALER. I played one (Illusion/Radiation/mind) which could solo some Raids and most World Bosses; my favorate team oriented character was a Plant/Radiation/Fire controller which had some of the best debuffing, and field control holds with the 2nd best AOE dps in the game (fire/fire/fire controllers easily had the best sustained DPS in the game when properly spec'ed out)

Of course there were classes with better single target or aoe burst damage, controller were always a bit of a slow burn when it came to racking up damage usually needing a series of debuffs to take effect before their damage spiked, but still they were one hell of an all round type of build. Heck my old fire/fire/fire controller could easily take main tank rolls in some content (depended on the type of damage the foes did). In fact it used to do it without even healer support on some raids.

>>156101904
Villain here, Gravity Dominator was cooler.

>>156096281
>>156098969
I don't like pre-Renewal, it doesn't have Dragon Breath.
>giving a physical class an int-based high damage aoe skill in the highest job change
lel

>>156102042
>Gravity Dominator

grav doms were devastating single target AOE. not a bad build, though not a good team build due to all the knockback. makes field control a bit rough.

Still definately could punch out some stupid crazy single target damage.

>>156087851
>That's the thing. How do you make a team when the main reason (mine at least) of playing a game is because one cant make friends? Or cant maintain them?
Play NWN modules instead of MMOs

>>156087568

Nothing, so long as you're not a faggot about it like whoever wrote this series.

>>156099213
Isn't the mobile app just a shitty rpg gacha game?

What is the best class for solo playing?

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>>156104356
Sorc

>>156094740
>Unless you're in a situation where people are actually fucking dying. Then you're not only needlessly risking your own life, but you're being kind of a massive cunt by not helping others.

Wasn't that the main subplot of the whole shit? nobody liked kirito because of that, except his harem. There were groups hellbent into hunting him down ingame

>>156094887
Because changing equipment is a good mechanic if it has drawbacks The drawback being you need a team to cover you

>>156104532
Which is stupid
>let's attack the strongest guy in here, the guy who can solo boss-battles

>>156104532
>nobody liked kirito except his harem
those random guys in the murder plot, klein and his guild, agil, the KoB guy that didn't try to kill him, those two who got trapped in some underground thing, etc

>>156099460
It's not much of a battle shounen 2bqh

>>156105919
They'd probably gang up on him, and maybe their levels aren't that much lower unlike Rosalia's guild.
>solo boss-battles
No.

>>156107681
Remember the first time he dual wielded in front of Asuna?
Yeah, the guy is stupidly OP, only idiots would attack a man like him

>>156104400

No magic in SAO. Except crystals and asspulls and whatnot.

>>156107806
I remember there something about everyone else already dropping the boss down to 75% which the anime didn't show, and also he only barely beat it with only a few hp left and only didn't die because of plot convenience.

>>156104400
What is that class like in that game and how does it compare to the other offensive magic class in that game?
There's always at least 2 of those in most MMOs.

>>156108132
Well SAO's been shut down and everybody plays ALO now!

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So I have quite a few questions about the movie if someone could answer them.

First: Why did Yuuna tell Kirito that he had to be high ranked to stop the evil dude? Just beating the 2nd Rank instantly gives him his rank so who cares if he is Rank 10230120 before that.

Second: Why did they have to beat the Floor 100 Boss in the end? Just so that Kirito could get that OP sword and oneshot everything? And since I guess that the sword was made to be a last hit item you would get when defeating the Boss in the normal SAO it would make no sense to get it at all since the game would be over and you could not even use the sword.

>>156109270

Except ALO has the SAO playfield floating in the sky.

>>156109348
Well they can use magic in there now!

>>156105919
He wasn't known as the strongest and these were psychos. There are some fuckups like that in the real world, just like, you know, here in this shithole

>>156109660
That makes it too simple
What kind of game is so stupidly easy that 60% of the players never die after 2 full years of playing it?

>>156109930

If they could respawn, the game would have been cleared much faster. Especially the boss fights.

Tbqр I loved idea of mmo without magic. That shit is so cliche it hurts.
Probably reason I didn't like Log Horizon.

>>156109991
Oh yeah
>what happened? Did you ALL die?
>yeah the boss was a giant skeleton scorpion-thing crawling on the ceiling
>oh good to know

>>156110566
You saying we should criticise something that we didnt even watch?