Warau Salesman NEW

>>156019135
Fuck this show and fuck everyone who enjoys this shit. You're the epitome of what's wrong in this world

AOTS
I'm even watching the old series

>>156019446
What's wrong with liking warau salesman?
I'd get if you didn't like the series but what's up with
>You're the epitome of what's wrong in this world
geez, it's just anime.

thought there was gonna be some train fucking towards the end

I JUST watched the first episode and I have to ask: What the hell did I just watch? He says he's here to help people's hearts but all he did was encourage they indulge in bad behaviors and then punish them for it... He's not even making some shady deal with the devil kind of thing, he's just straight up messing with people it feels like.

>>156019446
Did he fill the hole in your heart or what

>>156019852
>this confuse the moralfag

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>>156019852
He is a troll salesman with some type of magical power who makes deals in bad faith for his own enjoyment.

So, to become one of Maguro's customer you have to be:
1. In a state of mild distress
2. A salaryman/woman
3. Increadibly fucking stupid

anything else?

The first half was somewhat silly with its basis, but it was a fairly good story of Moguro fucking with someone for being indecisive. The second half with the guy who wants to fuck trains was a step down from the second half of last week's episode.

>>156019446
?

>>156019135
Who is the target demographic for this show? Successful, older people who have won the game of life? Teens who don't understand what lies ahead? Either way I feel depressed watching this shit, like I'm glimpsing into my own future.

>>156019952
>>156019917
>>156019852

Just watched the second episode, in the second half, the kid realized he was being a jerk and I assume was gonna go through some sort of realization, but then Moguro just brainwashed him into being a crazy jerk forever?

Furthermore, isn't he still in a fictional company and therefore not getting paid?

So this is a show about a guy who goes around ruining people's lives and outright brainwashing people under the pretense of "helping people with the hole in their heart"?

>>156019852
Salesman just sets the table. They are the ones that decide which move they will take. And they always choose wrong. No wonder God lost faith in humankind.

>>156020978
are you ok

>>156020855
>Who is the target demographic for this show?
Younger people. This show is teaching younger people how to be good and kind and not lose their way

>>156020855
then maybe its time you did something about it so our future doenst look so bleak

>>156020855
People who enjoy a good schadenfreude

>>156019135
First part ended relatively well. Fuck anyone who badmouths your mother, man. The dude's better off without that bitch.

>What I expected
>People getting fucked over by their own faults
>What I got
>People straight-up getting magical brainwashed if they ever realize that they are messed up people so that Moguro can fuck them over just because

Pretty lame desu. It's no fun seeing that people suffering if they didn't bring it upon themselves.

What if moguro really is trafficking human hearts and this is just the process he goes through, putting them in debt and the yakuza takes the heart.

>>156021189
I feel you, this episode was pretty bad. Both people would've been fine to work it out on their own, but Moguro guilt tripped them into fucking up more

Didn't get the second part's ending. What did Moguro do?

>>156021698
I think he turned him into a crazy fanatic who would never willingly get off the train again.

>>156020855
Have you ever considered that not all entertainment, or every story, has to have a moral?

>>156021698
Probably something alone the lines of getting him drunk (or leaving him delusional) and having him remain on the train, so he might get into a bit of trouble with the guard finding him. Otherwise he mostly fucked himself over at work rather than needing Moguro's help.

>>156021189
Woman in episode 1, part 2 brought it on herself.

Hell, she even got a good deal out of Moguro. She could indulge in her habits without losing money, but that wasn't good enough for her.

>>156021168
Man I dunno, the guy was clearly still pretty childish, and didn't respect either of them enough to be honest.

I mean, I kinda get it, his mother was crazy manipulative about it, but ultimately you don't want to be with someone who will side with their parents over you, especially if they see you as competition, and the fact that he clearly didn't like his mother's lunches but would rather create an elaborate lie and defend her than be honest about it was a rather negative mark for his character.

That said, anyone who tries to manipulate you to cut yourself off from your family, or sees them as competiton to the same degree that guy's mother did, is likewise a bad choice.

>>156021982
This.

>>156021056
I guess? I'm not doing too well in the grand scheme of thingms, but the show didn't mess me up too much. Just kinda confused. Usually a show has a reasonable moral to it or an obvious villain protagonist. It threw me off that the guy claimed to be doing a good thing when he wasn't.

To a degree, he genuinely did offer each person something nice, but in some of the situations, he was pretty blatantly encouraging about bad behavior rather than giving them a fair warning, and the part where he outright brainwashed a guy was too far. That said, this third episode (which I just finished watching) had him tell the first guy pretty frequently that he needs to just make a decision, and the second guy he stressed the importance of not getting on that train a second time, so it felt pretty fair.

Still kinda mixed about the outright brainwashing though.

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This is why OL are always single.

>>156021982
I agree for the most part, but I feel that he went too far in taking back the spa treatment. Like, the cost of giving up looking younger and nicer for a few days should be looking worse for a few days, not what seemed to be suddenly being pretty old permanently.

It feels like most of his deals don't outright ruin people, but he seems too eager and heavy handed when it comes to dealing out the consequences of abusing his generosity.

>>156021189
Each episode the people seem to deserve it less and less.

>>156022313
The OL in first week didn't deserve it
>get bullied
>develop shitty coping mechanism
>le evil salesman crushes you

I'd prefer the show if he was targeting people who deserve it a little more

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>>156019135
why didn't he just threw the bento away or gave it to one of his coworkers?

I still want them to remake the episode where a gold digging woman is tricked into being in a porn video when she instead thought she nabbed a rich guy

>>156022551
Probably some sense of guilt, he wanted the OL bentos, but he couldn't stand his mother's bentos going to waste.

>>156021917
Honestly if I stop trying to view it as "guy going around helping people with magically powered life lessons" and more "reality warper messing with people for fun, but he's not entirely heartless and willing to back off is they manage to handle themselves properly" then it all fits a lot better thematically.

It's just weird. At first I thought this show would be a blatant "careful what you wish for" with karmic retribution and life lessons from a shadey "making a deal with the devil" kind of person, and it IS that, but it feels off, like the guy trying to give all these life lessons isn't entirely sane, or has a significantly different view of things in regards to morals and fairness than most of the world.

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>Watching this and realizing your mother hasn't made lunch for you since elementary school. Even then it was just grocery store white bread, lunch meat and some vegetables in a ziploc bag.

>Feels bad man

>>156022610
Well he is the laughing salesman for a reason. He can encourage a guy to go on a joy run in a stolen truck, cause multiple accidents and break every traffic law in the book, and leave him surrounded by police, and walk away saying "that was amusing".

>>156022736
True, it's basically an episodic style show of a bored reality warper with an odd sense of humor, doing nothing more than passing the time, and if a few lives are improved or completely ruined along the way, that's fine with him.

Can't believe this was originally created by the same guy who made Doraemon.

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>>156022636
>tfw you will never ever return to such a simple yet perfect time
I never wanted to be reminded of this from watching this show.

>>156023032
>Wanting to be autistic kid again
Fuck off.

>>156023610
>not wanting to be an autistic kid again
being an autistic adult isn't nearly as fun

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>>156023670

>>156019135
Will he ever be stopped? May somebody be able to out-smart him?

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>episode 1 was two SHIIIT stories
>episode 2 was one shit story and one very good story
>episode 3 is one very good story and one that's really weird
This is too inconsistent.

>>156022197
>It threw me off that the guy claimed to be doing a good thing when he wasn't.
Is that your first time seeing "dealing with the devil"-type stories?

>>156024033
>This is too inconsistent.
Completely agree. Are we tripping up on some actual cultural shock for the first time in forever?
Does this make more sense to japanese people?

>>156022610
I get a kind of Kafka feeling of absurdist humor from this

>>156024045

Well, the deal with the devil ussually lets you screw yourself with your own decisions. It's weird to see the devil brainwashing someone into being an asshole, it goes against its usual principles.

>>156024890
Here people are screwed by their own decisions. It is the devil's right to persuade them to make these decisions, though.

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If this shit is the norm than Japan is a more depressing place than I thought.

>>156025104
This is the reason I haven't moved to Japan yet

>>156021087
You mean

>Teach nip youths to work hard at their job every day without complaining and give free overtime to their bosses

>>156019852
literally Monkey Paw: The Animation.

>>156025104
This entire story was retarded.
>Average guy with no real issues nor really fucking up in life in any way, just working a shitty job
>Punish him for having a hobby and dream, didn't really indulge in it in excess, Moguro got him drunk

>>156025524
Monkey's Paw would imply theres some sort of ironic punishment. What the fuck was the punishment in the Bento one?

The better way would have been the super delicious shit makes him eat it himself which drives the girl and somehow the mom away

>>156024305
Same, I'm not too familiar with kafka but I am with Camus' absurdism and this fits his idea of the world having no objective meaning but having subjective meaning, which is reflected in the weird surreal antics of Moguro and how he entertains himself.

That's a catchy as fuck OP

The guy with the trains made me despair. I am still waiting for one of the stories to end up with mokuro-san just enjoying his time with a customer and the customer learning his lesson in a positive light. It was just a guy who really loved trains and the journey and i feel like i can somehow relate to that feeling. Seeing him fall so hard was not nice. Maybe some day i'll get to see that happy ending.Did anything like this happen in the old series?

>>156022546
I feel as if many people make this mistake and i would like to offer you some advice. If you want to take it fine,if you dont its also fine. The fact that she got bullied does not negate what she did. Some bullied people have this way of thinking where they are not at fault for anything and they feel empowered by the fact that they are being treated badly. She was punished because she did something that was forbidden,using the bullying as an excuse is giving her precedence

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Moguro fucking over people who don't entirely deserve it is exactly what makes this a black comedy. That's the whole premise. They're supposed to be punchlines, not life lessons,

>>156026391
Hardly a comedy when it's so shit and boring.

>>156025049
>screwed by their own decisions
Most of the decisions are contrived, and on one instance not a real decision at all (the hot springs guy was about to make the right choice but Moguro pretty much fucked him over because the episode was running out of time)

>>156026174
The Japanese Wiki does list a few episodes which don't end badly, but none of those are subbed.

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This past episode's part 2 reminded me of Rail Wars, I honestly thought the MC in that show was autistic, but holy hell, I didn't know there was an entire culture revolving around trains. That's pretty neat.

I really didn't like how part 2 ended. The guy accomplished one of his grandiose dreams, felt like a new leaf, only to get crushed on, and was destroyed by Moguro in that moment of weakness.

The first part of this past episode was by far the best so far. Moguro was completely neutral and only gave him something to buy him time. When the guy screwed up by not coming up with a solution during his peace time, Moguro made him deal with it head on. My opinion on the show would be considerably higher if they handled the situations like this.

I will admit I can sort of accept the train ending where the guy's punishment was being addicted to the train, but the one of the more egregious endings that put me off from having a higher opinion on the show was the skit where the new salary rookie realized he was becoming as horrible of a boss as the boss in his old work place. When he realized when he became, he literally ran to the exit in panic but Moguro just brainwashed him into accepting his new role. It would have been more natural and acceptable if they had a discussion where the salaryman concluded this is the type of boss he wants to be and he was just envious of the his old boss' position.

>>156026518
I didn't say the jokes were funny. I just said they were jokes.

>>156019446
>>>/n/

>>156026391
This would work if it wasn't arranged as a fable with a moral at the end.
Dark humor shouldn't try to teach the right way to behave.

>>156024033
Welcome to the short story format.

>>156026815
I think being a mock fable is supposed to be part of the joke.

>>156019135
i am 100% convinced only shills and trolls post these threads
this anime is motherfucking abysmal, its shitty writing is even worse than Sword art online

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>>156027051
Its a gag manga from the late 60s/early 70s, what the hell were you expecting? Evangelion?

>>156026815
Every individual thus far has had some kind of significant flaw that gave Moguro an opening for him to exploit. So in that regards, there is some kind of lesson that can be taken from the episodes.

It's just not using those to teach the individuals in the show a lesson, but rather have Moguro fuck them over for the fun of it.

>>156025524
>>156021021
>>156020978
>>156019952
>>156019917
this is the epitome of bad writing you fucking retards
he doesnt offer any kind of deal he just straight fucks up people and shit on his own rules.
if this is gonna be like this he might as well shoot people in the face with a shotgun as soon as he sees anyone and you can all go 2DEEP4U XD retards

>>156027135
>>156027047
I do think that the mock fable part is enjoyable, but it just doesn't quite fit with the narrative. It's a bit jarring.
I much prefer the stories where people DO bring forth their just deserts.
The "teaching a moral" part doesn't feel like part of the joke but actually honest. I mean, this IS from one of the creators of Doraemon.

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>/a/ mistakes a 40 year old comedy manga series for a 2deep4u moral quandary anime

>>156026626
It took a while of letting it stew in my head, but I think the main reason he was punished is because he got too attached to the fake job.

The main problem was that after working his horrible job, he was too scared to try anymore, and this fake job was supposed to build up his confidence.

Since he went all dark side and terrified himself, he's probably going to go back to being too scared to job seriously, so Moguro made him stick with his fake job for forever.

The punishment was basically for losing the resolve to job seriously, I guess.

That, or I go back to my "Moguro doesn't actually care about anything and just messes with people depending on his whims" theory.

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I can't wait to see how /a/ responds when they get to the chapters where his clients outright refuse his help and he still fucks them over.

>>156027130
>acknowledging the bad writing but also excusing it
Was your idea to prove his shill accusation right?

>>156027145
Nobody is saying that this show is deep

>>156027492
Wait are you seriously telling me he needs literally no requirements to begin ruining your day, he can just straight up do whatever he wants and just goes about this route for the fun of it?

Is it seriously just "bored reality warper messing with people" as the plot?

Why can't moralfags understand that fucking up people's lives for free can be fun?

>>156027585
Yes, that's literally the whole basis of the show. That's also why its nothing more than a gag comedy.

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>>156027585
At the very least, his help can be very much bad faith from the beginning.

>>156027610
Oh I understand that it can be, it's just that the show had this vaneer of being something else and blatant evil type stories aren't all that common and I'm used to them heavily announcing themselves as such.

Everything about the Laughing Salesman gave me an evil vibe, but then he starts talking about helping people's hearts and I think he's actually trying to help in some way, but if you WERE to go around messing with people under the guise of being some minor helpful reality warper of sorts, than he's doing a great job of it all.

It just isn't something I expected, so I kept trying to categorize it as other things I'm more familiar with.

>>156028080
Moral of the story: Moguro is a jerk, and if he gives you his business card, you're gonna have a bad time.

I'll keep watching though, because honestly, if I had his powers, I probably wouldn't be much different.

>>156028086
It's a mix of clients, the old stories were a mix of people who deserved what they got and those who Moguro just fucked over for the hell of it.

Either way, Moguro is a troll who exploits people weaknesses primarily motivated by his own enjoyment, but sometimes he happens to choose someone quite deserving.

I kind of want to go on an overnight train now.

>>156027130
>evangelion
>not gag writing from the 70's
oh boi

Not gonna lie, I get a strange sort of amusement out of seeing the guy ruin lives. Can't really explain why, but I guess it's just the same reason why people like dark humor in general.

/vr/ here. Have you guys checked out the mega CD game? It's kinda' neat.

>>156019446
Someone wished for good anime this season and thus Warau Salesman NEW aired, sucks for whoever made the wish though.

>eating some whore's bento instead of your mother's
fucker deserved to get SEERUSUMAN'd

This makes me feel bad the same way kaiji did.

Do Japs really freak over boxed lunches and trains so much that a social parody show makes eps about them?

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>>156031406
Different culture. For comparison, burgers are quite fond of their fast food joints. Just look on youtube for a fast food review for your newest burger from wendy's or some shit like that. There're hundreds of channels dedicated just for reviewing fast food.

This is a show? Lel
I thought the salesman cameo from zettai Karen children was just some random throwaway chara.

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>>156031667
The manga has been around since the 60s with a show in the early 90s. It's only back thanks to the wave of remakes these days.

>>156027145
Read more, dope.

>>156031406
Have you seen King of the hill? The whole show is just a big stereotype of people from Texas. Obsession over your lawn, bbq traditions, football are just as "autistic"

>>156031406
>developing an obsession over something one must do everyday is somehow negative
It's like a diabetic getting off to insulin shots.

>>156031406
Japan has a huge train obsession I mean they have entire websites dedicated to train. Now they're train enthusiast all over the world but Japan if I had to say has the most train enthusiast per capita.

mommy or gf

Pick one

How tame is it?
I mean, watched only first episode now and first one didn't seem like the 'devil deal' type of story as much as the second one was.

>>156033073
jc daughteru

>>156033603
There is a lot of variation, in the old show it varies from an mild inconvenience or mild debt up through life changing consequences (like the second story in the first episode) or up to death.

>>156033073
Neither of those two from this episode.

>>156028702
Moguro would like to offer you a ticket.

I know this reboot of the original show came out just a couple weeks ago, but is there any chance of the reboot getting licensed in the US?

>>156038173
Crunchyroll has the streaming rights in the US at least. As to a possible physical release, it is niche enough that you would probably want to look at one of the distributors who grab these types of niche shows.

>>156038173
I can see this show and/or the original getting a dub, and kids watching it in the future. I know I did with a few series like it.

>>156024033
I think some stories are new and some are remakes. I don't which one are the new ones and which are the old, but I guess that explains the inconsistencies.

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The guy in the first episode was far too reliant on the people around him and got what he deserved, he lacked independence and didn't even try to stand up for what he believed in. He should have dropped his gf because she was an absolute prick that couldn't respect family, and he should do whatever he can to convince his grandma that he's grown up now.

The second episode was more Moguro-tampering, but these kinds of episodes are more centered around ethical dilemmas than moral ones, so the salesman made his own decision to risk retrenchment from the workplace, all so he could abuse his ticket and indulge in his train dreams and forgetting about the reality that patience is a virtue, he should have just waited for those train events where the train would show up twice in that month naturally.

>>156038302
>>156039127
Yeah, I honestly hope it gets a good English dub, assuming it will in the future. I wouldn't mind buying it on Blu-Ray/DVD if the price is reasonable.

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>>156027145
maybe a visit from the laughing salesman could fill the hole in your heart friend

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>Kamera Tetsuya

>>156039485
Of the three episodes thus far, Episode 1 story 1, and Episode 2 story 2 were remakes, the rest have been new.

>>156040198
Whoops, that should be episode 2 story 1, not episode 2 story 2.

Very nice episode. I feel like punchlines were less cruel and more real to the touch. You've got an indecisive loser who really does act like a kid at heart, and a washed up has-been who can integrate with the ever change and staggering society. Either way, that was pretty fun. I kinda hope there's gonna be a Moguro customer who actually does end up better than they were before. I like to think the reason why bad things happen to these people is because they let temptation slide even for a second.

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Do japanese offices really have people use Laptops? It's the same in this episode again.

I just can't understand railfags, just how? I can't even begin to imagine getting that worked up over a train, it's like some sort of absurdist inner joke.

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>not choosing the qt OL

The mama's boy was living the good life and he fucked it all up. What a fag.

>>156019952
What episode is this pic from? It's pretty kickass.

>>156040994
Not that I have ever been in that situation or ever could be, but I wouldn't betray my own flesh and blood mother for that whore.

>>156041203
What if you're mother is clearly crazy like his was?

>>156041233
I wouldn't really call her crazy as much as having a clearly unhealthy attachment.

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>>156041171
69 of the original, it's unfortunately well beyond where the subs have gotten.

>>156027130
Doraemon manga still hold up to this day, not a excuse

>>156041494
Thanks. I don't mind that it's unsubbed. Gotta practice my nihongo anyways.

I liked this episode a lot because both victims ended up fucking themselves over and ignored Moguro's warnings.

>>156022736
That fucking episode. ALL the guy wanted to do was learn to drive so he could drive with his son. He didn't do anything wrong on his own and had no bad intentions at any point. Moguro just decided "Yeah, I'll take advantage of this guy's drunkenness and convince him to drive an 18 wheeler I stole."

That was the point that I realized he just doesn't give any fucks about the client, he just wants a show.

>>156027130
What anime is this picture from? I can't just pin point it even though I watched it.

>>156024033

Well in the first episode with the OL, she could of got a reward points card and spent all that money in one day.

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>>156027585
Didn't you ever read minus?

>>156028259
Yup. It's fun to watch people get their shit kicked in. I also love his smile.

>>156019852
>>>/pol/
Hes a jew

>>156019852
>He says he's here to help people's hearts
>bad shit happnes

sounds accurate to me

>>156025104
This anime is making me hate Japan and as a long time weeaboo i never thought it could be possible. Great show though, best of the season for me

>>156028086
That just means his gig is working. You BELIEVE him.

>>156031862
new Kinnikuman anime when though?

>>156043654
Minus reminds you why anyone who's seriously religious should have a fear of God

Since Moguro always wins, I've just started looking for reasons to hate his targets. It was not hard with the fucking loser bento boy

>>156025104
There's a reason Japan has such high suicide rates.

Both stories this week were new episodes

Next week on the other hand looks to be a remake of episode 9 of the old show, and a new story.

>>156045902
Ain't Nisei enough already?

>>156048377
I mean based on the new series, not Nisei.

>>156026626
>I didn't know there was an entire culture revolving around trains
I see you've had the good fortune of never encountering an /n/ thread on /a/.

This show is honestly sad.
> this shitty work culture is killing me
> you want out fuck you

>>156049587
That's dark satire for you

>>156049587
In Japan they have a saying:
The nail that quits work gets hammered down.

>>156049587
He's basically the devil.
He destroys people with their desires.

God I'm so glad this is episodic because a lot of this shit is really fucking hit and miss. I could opt out watching an episode/part if I see it's not to my taste.

Good time saving.

>>156019446
Go away, your not welcome here

>>156050128
>get out of my circlejerk

That bartender has been present throughout this new series , was he also in the original series? The guy has seen some shit probably..

>>156050390
He's probably just another satisfied customer

does japan enjoy this show - is it cultural differences?

or is it just a piece of trash from anyone's point of view?

>>156049775
The hole in their heart he is taking care of is their last remaining hope.

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>>156050390
Yes, he is from the original

>>156020855
>Who is the target demographic for this show?
Me. People whose main form of consolation that life's not so bad after all is worse shit happening to other people.

>>156050736
Apparently his name is "Master"?

>>156050944
That's just a translation of the way people refer to bartenders in Japan

>>156050970
Ah, that makes sense.

>>156050982
And by bartenders, I mean the ones who basically own their establishment, as in they're the master of the shop, which is common in Japan, I think.

>>156050736
I like Moguro's profile in Classic more than in NEW. It looks kinda awkward in NEW.

>>156051036
Classic is more cartoony in general, so he doesn't stand out as much. I think I prefer how unnatural he looks in NEW

>>156050736
Do you think Bartender's drinks influence clients to tell Moguro their true desires or something?

>First person
>Dumps his bitchy girlfriend with spectacular help from his mother
>Awesome smug face as she walks off

I don't care if they tried to make it seem like he made the wrong choice; that was the RIGHT choice. Bitch was being rude for no reason. You don't let people insult your family.

>>156051056
This is true, the character designs in NEW seem less caricatured, gives him a nice uncanny valley look compared to everyone else.

>>156051088
OL is probably upset she'll die without ever having a child or having a relationship with another person that isn't purely based on entertainment or economy. They all are. She was probably a single child, too.

Is there any deal you could make with him that even if you got BOOMed you could still turn it around?

>>156051631
Probably not, it's not really the point.

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Even if Trainman hadn't tagged along with Moguro, he still didn't finish his work before going off for the day.
Wouldn't he still be fucked either way then?
Can this be considered a win-win for him?

I just realized, does Moguro ever blink? Or even close his eyes?

>>156051736
If trainman kept his dream as just a dream, he might have done his work better. Likewise, the train poisoned his mind; he snapped at his shithead boss and escaped to the very train that fulfilled his dream.

>>156052248
Moguro's eyes never move, just like his smile never fails.

>>156051631
It's possible some of those without a serious life-altering boom could improve themselves after getting taken for a ride by Moguro.

Good luck trying to beat Moguro at his own game though.

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DO~N DO~N DO~N!

>>156053380
Let's be honest, the real reason we come back every week is the OP

>that first half
So Mogu-chan would instantly fix most harem series/love triangles?

>>156053436
/our guy/

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Moguro is not bad

I'm not much into schadenfreude so this show just isn't very enjoyable for me. I dropped Sushi Police too because the Sushi Police were just massive jerks.

>>156043654
Never read this before but it reminds me of that Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode where Bart turns Homer into a jack-in-the-box.

Hopefully someone starts translating the manga

>>156019446
>>156019852
>getting this mad at a show about aesops
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>156020515
The first was a story about procrastination, the second was a story about escapism.

>>156051631
I'm pretty sure you can get away from Moguro fine, so long as you never drink any of his alcohol. So far he has gotten every single one of his victims drunk.

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>>156054502
>Bart turns Homer into a jack-in-the-box
Sounds like a Twilight Zone reference. That strip is more of a one-off for minus. She doesn't intentionally kill human beings thereafter.

>>156028080
Heck I'm gonna have to watch this now.

>>156054574
>Sounds like a Twilight Zone reference
Now that you mention it I think it might've been, yeah.

Moguro is just a personification of people giving in to their desires... is what I'm holding onto for now, unless this show does something outlandish

>>156033073

Family first

Do you think Kimiko is into CBT?

>>156054780
So far the recurring theme of every episode has been people drinking alcohol and then indulging against their better interests. Although the bento one was a bit different than usual, it still fit the bill because the guy never picked between the girl and his mother to the very end.

>everyone makes reddit/meme faces
I think I'll pass.

>>156055339
>reddit/meme faces
What did anon mean by this?

>>156055577
Just look at the Laughing Salesman's face and expressions and tell me it's not a meme face. It's like something a 5 year old would make.

>>156055714
What's even a "meme face"?
>It's like something a five year old would make
In what sense? You're not telling me anything. Just that you wanted to complain and are posting whatever shitty buzzword criticisms pop up in your head

First it's important to establish what is the salesman. He's not the devil because he would be an angel in that case.
He's not a demon either because he is too simplistic in his ways.
He looks like a malicious spirit, maybe once upon a time he was a spirit of justice but he changed by the malice of humans.

And we arrive at that he does. He may be targeting the weak animals of the pack but at the same time he exposes people's hypocrisy by unearthing their true evil self.
If his victims would deny him, nothing more would happen to them. But they always give in to temptation driver by greed.

Not to say that others are not evil, but they live in accordance with their evil, not pretending to be pious and mistreated by the world.

The few truly good people are the ones who could extinguish the salesman. Resisting the temptation but still keeping it in you, doesn't help you win over him.

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So are there any artfags here who knows what that picture in the background of the bar is?

They should really just make up their mind about which half is going to be karmical and which mean-spirited so I can skip the latter.

>>156020482
An alcoholic.

Was there a story where Moguro got beaten up with a lead pipe?

>>156058609
You think a common human can overpower him.

>>156058609
He's not Kaiki, anon. He's just out to make people happy.

It seems that they tried to make Moguro more sympathetic in the new stories, where in the classic series he was just out to fuck with people. I feel that's why people are so confused about his goals or choice of victims.

>>156062124
I wouldn't quite agree with that assessment, these clients are quite in line with many of the classic episodes (not to mention 2 of the 6 stories were remakes of old episodes).

Although I wouldn't be surprise if they avoid some of the more sympathetic clients of the original.

>>156022317
Except for the guy in the first episode (I think), he got away with simply having a huge debt.

>>156058609
In the old story, some woman manages to elbow Mogoru and knocks his bag into a river

By the end of the episode, she knocks her boyfriend into a moving train

The train guy literally did nothing wrong

All the others had some personality flaw that Moguro played on, but train guy was just old and liked trains, his boss was the asshole.

>>156027325
I admit that at first this reminded me a lot of those horror "shoujo" anime/manga with a moral, I didn't realize this wasn't supposed to be that until this last episode.

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>>156063892
Well there is always the moral of don't trust a shady salesman who claims he is there to help you.

>>156051631
All his deals are good, people just abuse his kindness.

>>156063846
All bosses are in this show. Makes me wonder why communism isn't stronger there.

>>156063846
Moguro gave him exactly what he had longed for in the train episode, and things were going to end badly even without Moguro booming him.

>>156063975
I'm a salesman and I feel insulted by this

It is kinda shitty. Even if you try to wor kout your own problems if moguro already decided to fuck with you it's over.

He's just straight up evil.

>>156064205

I don't trust that statement

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>>156063846
No, he was very wrong.
There's nothing wrong with talking shit about your boss and standing up for your fetish/hobby but he threw his entire life and work just to be with his train. He essentially killed himself because he wanted to live in a dream world. He couldn't accept living the dream once and move on with his life, he had to be stuck forever. And that's what he did wrong.

>>156033073
both. it's free fucking food.

>>156033073
gf makes better food.
moomy can just die already.

Seriously, the only reason for living the mother had was to make mediocre food. You shouldn't feel chained to people who's entire livelihood depend literally on your existence and suffering.

>>156055331
His issue was a complete lack of independence. He even relied on Moguro to fix his problems. Instead of doing something, he hoped Moguro would give him more magic powder. Moguro caused his mother to keep away any woman from now on, so he will never have to make any difficult decisions again, because his mother will.

>>156057464
I don't know what it is, but it's ominous.

>>156065095
Then he should have picked the girlfriend.
Instead, he himself told Moguro that he would choose his mother if he could.
He refused to, so Moguro made his mother choose for him.

>>156048319
>Next week on the other hand looks to be a remake of episode 9 of the old show, and a new story.

Next week should be fun regardless of how the second half turns out.

Why does Japan keep trying to reboot old and dead series?

>>156066067
Some of those remakes, such as Yamato 2199 and Osomatsu-san, have made a fortune.

>>156066067
Because to them, they're classics and the only ones thinking they're old and dead are retarded gaijins who think an old anime can't be a classic if it wasn't famous in burgerland/wherever they're from

>>156065650
He couldn't pick because it was shameful. He was unable to stand up for himself and claim his own happiness. He was willing to stall the inevitable by using the enhancing spice and broke because of it.
And he only chose his mother because he was unwilling to find his own happiness and tell her mother to live her own life rather than rely on him.
Oh you wake up early to make food? Thanks, but what else do you do?

He was vain, and so was his mother. The only sane person was the gf that correctly decided to leave him.

>>156019917
>I like this show because the MC reminds me of myself: Intelligent, nihilistic and a wicked sense of humor

>>156066067
Japan is full of old people. Have you considered that?

>all these people saying Moguro fucks people over or brainwashes them
No. The story is about people giving into their own temptation. That's the whole point of the BOOM. He can't force people to act in a specific way, but when they do of their own accord and snap, that's when he BOOMs. He tempts people with what they most desire but he never forces them to accept, it's only their weak wills and inner desires that make them accept his deals, and break them. A normal, well adjusted person would easily be able to resist any bad temptations or accept the rules of a harmless one.

>>156067067
>implying you would survive Moguro

>>156067067
Explain episode 1 part 2 then.

>>156067501
She abused his gift card by breaking his rules and even when confronted with this acted entitled to use it however she wanted. She used it for personal beauty and her looks got her a date with a hot guy. He takes away the beauty she used to that end. She was greedy and vain.

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>>156067067
No, look at the hot springs episode.
>Guy: Yeah, I came here to cheat on my wife but I don't want to anymore
>Moguro: BOOM
What was the point of that? That people should always carry through with immoral decisions?

I enjoy this anime, but there is no overarching moral message, and if there is it is a very fucked up one.

>>156067868
He said that to save face. He could have left at any time or refused. He was tempted by Moguro but he wasn't forced into doing anything.

>>156067947
He was impaired from his reasoning by Moguro plying him with alcohol.

He didn't make that decision when he was sober, and thus can't take the full blame for it.

>>156068055
>he was drunk so it's okay
No. After he passed out and woke back up he was sober enough to tell him he really wanted it. He wasn't drunk when Chii-chan came that night. People don't lose all sense of reason when they drink.

>>156068551
Exactly. Alcohol doesn't make you irrational, it just shows who you really are.

>>156066067
Same reason the west keeps trying to reboot old movies and series.
>They ran out of ideas
>It is familiar and the franchise has already been established
>It is an easy way to make money without much creative effort.

>>156065308
Magic powder is just like drugs.

>believing Moguro is trying to help people

>>156067067
They're just lonely Like me :_:

>>156072847
You should see Moguro about that, I'm sure he can help you.

So I became forever alone 30yo NEET because a fiendish salesman trolled me?

>>156074908
Nah, if he had trolled you, you'd be a HOMELESS 30 year old forever alone NEET with a criminal record.

This dude is such a fucking troll

>>156074908
He can do far worse to lonely people

>>156022546
the thing was, she could have pulled herself out of it at many junctures, i felt bad too, but i understand what she was doing

>>156069404
yeah and even if he was sloshed there's a big difference between drinking a little with a pretty girl and clearly committing adultery

moguro-san moguro-san I'm so happy you took me out and listened to my problems! You see I have a dream now moguro-san! I want to be your friend!

>>156027145
>it's bad writing if it makes retarded people (like me) mad

>/a/ spergs mad this show doesn't satisfy their western idea lf cosmic justice (which was stolen from the east)

A retarded faggot will never be lleased with anything

>>156076178
I'm pretty sure most people would eventually try to cheat the system in such a case, as you hardly could expect a magical punishment. Even if she went overboard there, using it for something like food is tricky for repossession.

>>156019135
this feels like a doraemon rip-off plus the plot kills

>>156080497
>this feels like a doraemon rip-off plus the plot kills
This is what people said about Osomatsu-san, and this shit pisses me off because people will say that the shows that came before it are copying it just because the show got popular. It's annoying and fucking retarded. You can't copy an idea or an art style. Jesus fucking Christ anon you sound like you came from Deviantart.

Also capitalize and punctuate your sentences.

>>156058609
>>156063812

He also got hit in the head with a golf club once.

He ended up DON'ing the guy into beaming a guy from work he hated in the head with a golf club.

>This is all the delicious powder you're getting. Use it to buy time and make a decision.
>"Hey Moguro can I have more powder?"

What a fag. He had a cute office lady girlfriend making lunches for him and he didn't attempt to save his relationship.

I only watch this for the DOOON part desu senpai

>>156057464
Probably something in the vein of Faust.

>>156022546
>develop shitty coping mechanism
Literally her own fault

I want Kimiko to step on my face.

>>156057464
la danse du sabat Gustave Dore

I always end up rooting for Moguro

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>>156081418
Sorry, meant to say about the concept of pulling the stuff people need out of his ass not so much about the art style, its like for that smily guy everyones is fucking nobita.

>>156086611
Like the dude before said, there's gonna be episodes where he just deliberately fucks with people just to fuck with em.

But yeah, most of these people just cave into temptation even when he tells them that bad things will happen if they do.

>>156087609
Train guy got into a fight at work even before Moguro did anything else other than give him his dream.

So this is just a shitty twilight zone

>>156090478
Not 100% is, but that's a good comparison.

>>156022636
>once in a while my mom packed lunches for me in second grade
>she always put those chocolate zucchini muffins that I fucking loved
;_;

>>156045902
Right after the devilman anime.

>>156019135
I feel the show is missing the charm of the original and the episodes feel a bit rushed. That being said I enjoy it more than the majority of what's airing.

>>156087609
He doesn't fuck anybody over more than they should be. Stop sympathizing with shitty people.

Just once I'd like one of them to heed his warning

Even though it's not great, I'm really enjoying the show thus and it's probably my AOTS. I especially love the bar he takes his victims to--very nice. OP is fantastic as well, and the best I heard in awhile amidst all the terrible jpop.

Being an irascible NEET who browses imageboards and faps to lolis all day doesn't constitute a meeting with the Moguro, r-right?

>>156088925
>>156093282
I actually feel bad for the train-philiac. The dude just wants to enjoy his life's passion but gets fucked over by normalfags.

>>156093803
The first guy in the former half of this episode is the worst of the bunch. I bet he'd be willing to suck Moguro's cock for more of that powder like a cocaine-addled slut.

>>156025104
There is a reason salary men become raging alcoholics. They work unbelievable hours at minimum 6 days a week. And on their Sunday they are usually doing some activity related to work relations.

>>156019135
Watched the first two episodes and didnt like it at all. It might be cultural, but it seems to me like the guy just fucks up generally nice people for wanting something or having some personal quirks. It looks to me like this japanese shit about tall puppies and stuff. Can't enjoy it at all.

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>>156095133
My boss works 7 days a week and cleans gutters and shit outside of work on top of that even though he doesn't really need to and is always in a good mood.

>>156095602
Some people cope better than others.

>>156095602
Maybe he watches cute anime girls.

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What if I wish for the salesman to become my friend?

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>>156095267
Well he makes people happy with them achieving something they desire or fulfilling a dream/ambition.

Not his fault they get greedy and want more.

>>156096525
I guess bartender did.

>>156028635
But all of them are salaryman i suppose

>>156039493
He couldn't have went to the event. He said himself and that is why he took the ticket

>>156049775
Yeah but the devil choses indistinguishly not always salary man in crisis

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>>156095267
Typical asians, muh face and all. If you do something different or deemed unappropriate then youre lowest scum of the society. If youre regarded as low life then youre not a human to them

So yeah, its the culture causing this for which the show is directed towards

>>156091400
What the actual fuck is a chocolate zucchini muffin.

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>>156021189
Is there anyone who thinks the story of this ep part 2(train guy) wasnt right though?
Shit, I at first thought this was going to be the first story where Moguro straight up helped the guy by making him dream come true and him recovering his determination to work hard, only for the guy to waver in front of the first difficulty and go break the rules like everybody else.

>>156101684

No happy times in this show man, no happy times.

aruke

>>156067868
Dont you get it?
There would be no point to the deal if Moguro didnt give him punishment for it, the guy would have cheated on his wife and got away with it without a problem, addultery was already commited so he received punishment. That one felt pretty right.

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>all these people defending the atrocious writing

>>156102293
Moguro seems awfully happy at least.

>>156086987
Literally made by the Fujiko Fujio duo. That's probably why the concepts are a bit similar.

Does Moguro ever get a taste of his own medicine? I'd be down for that

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Anyone else noticed the paintings?

>>156076909
You will now be the friend of every moguro san in the multiverse but you must first accept their kind offer to fill your heart! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

>>156075935
NEET anon here. I'm working on it...

>>156107338
It is kind of hard to outperform someone with magical abilities and a good sense for choosing entertaining clients.

How is this thread still alive. Did anyone made a deal with the salesman.

>>156112736
>How is this thread still alive.
Hipsters.

>>156112736
We all have a hole in our hearts.

>>156027145
You guys are fags. This guy is right. The show is shit. There's no real humor, creativity or suspense.

I just watched 2 episodes and I've dropped it. It's like Yamishibai only worse. There were a few episodes Yamishibai was done well, but most of the time everything was horribly preditacle/drawn out/didn't have a good twist ending/ended just as it was getting interesting.

This shit show doesn't have the excuse of being a short, it's a full 23 minutes per episode.

There's nothing wrong with the idea. I'm not moralfagging. There should just be more to do the show like better dialog/better animation/better twists or endings/actual jokes. Instead there's nothing.

No one pays for things in a way you don't expect. It's just "here's the ridiculous bill." The 2nd episode with the inn situation was retarded. The guy tells the victim he'll take care of everything including helping him get laid, then he gets stuck with a huge bill. If he was paying for everything earlier it doesn't seem stupid for the guy to think he'd pay for the night of drinking and sex since he reaffirms with "leave everything to me."

Oh wow, what a twist he I guess paid for everything the first time he said "leave everything to me" but didn't pay for it the 2nd time he said "leave everything to me."

Why would the 2nd time be different? He got black out drunk both times. The guy didn't mind him passing out the first time.