>Uub exists >Goku will train him later GT IS CANON >GT

>>155990400
Goku leaves to train Uub at the end of Z you mouthbreather. Nothing about GT

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>>155990457
He exists again, the timelines have just shifted a bit

GT is still canon

SSJ4 is stronger than SSJB?

>>155990400
Uub already existed in the manga, retard.

GT > Super, regardless of the obsession over "muh canon" dbfags have. Look forward to the countless "Now that the dust has settled" threads after this piece of shit ends.

>>155990400
Besides the fact that the last episode of z was goku kidnapping uub to train him, akira has already said gt is a what if situation and that ssj4 is weaker than god.

>>155992257
I do

>>155990400
>GT IS CANON
It's time to kill myself

>>155992257
No, no matter how bad Super can get with its inconsistencies and flanderizing its characters, the entire premise of GT itself is buttfuck retarded.

The only, ONLY good thing about GT was SSJ4, that's a fact of reality.

>>155990400
>GT is canon
Lol nice try faggot.

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>>155990457
At the end of Z goten is taller than chichi

>>155994502
SSJ4 was also kind of retarded. It barely seemed anymore powerful than SSJ4. Plus it got dominated in almost every fight.

>>155990570
well probably

but remember
Gogeta SSj4 was SSJ4 god form

because in GT, goku get ki transfusions from Trunks, Gohan, goten and pan

all he needed was vegeta ki to transform into SSG. and he got it when they fused, thats why his hair is red

>>155994573
Stop it with this retconning faggotry.

>>155994647

TORYAMA HAD IT ALL PLANED

Make uub be pink_ please

>>155990400
>Headcanon

>Uub shows up in Z, both in the manga and in the anime
>EVERYONE immediately starts talking about how GT is made canon by him being mentioned
Is this some sort meme or is the fanbase just dumb?

>>155995011
>Is this some sort meme or is the fanbase just dumb?

You really need to turn your brain off to enjoy DB

>>155994502
The premise of GT was basically the premise of the original dragon ball on a larger scale. I'm not sure how you think that's anymore retarded than the premise of Super which is Goku trying to get stronger than a god of destruction who can body entire galaxies on accident. I'm not even sure what you people are defending at this point.

uub barely appears on gt

>>155995540
>The premise of GT was basically the premise of the original dragon ball on a larger scale. I'm not sure how you think that's anymore retarded than the premise of Super which is Goku trying to get stronger than a god of destruction who can body entire galaxies on accident.

the problem comes from just how badly damn near all of GT was executed.

Goku is a kid again for no reason. Pan and Trunks are fucking useless. Most people don't even remember most of the planets they went to when they had to find the black star dragon balls.

>>155996003
Super doesn't make any sense either and people are eating that shit up though?

>>155996969
people have been shitting over the last few episodes hardcore to hte point there is a brand new holding back meme

>>155996003
That's kind of the entire point, the first part of GT was a callback to Dragon Ball. Pilaf returns, makes a stupid wish through comedic happenstance, then they go on an adventure. It's not a whole lot different than when Oolong wished for women's underwear or any of the other bumbling antics of Pilaf in Dragon Ball. And Goku was a kid again to recapture that same feeling of Dragon Ball as well as nerfing his power so you weren't constantly asking why he just didn't body the dude instantly. It was trying to recapture the simpler adventure that Dragon Ball had. As far as people remembering it, that's probably due in part to most people not having even seen the first season. Funamtion skipped it entirely originally and didn't release it until after the Omega Shenron arc, which most people weren't going to go back and watch shit when they already knew how it ended.

Arguing that GT was poorly executed while defending Super is just comical.

>>155997632
i thought the concepts of the dragon balls were bullshit
for starters why would piccolo create dragonballs that scatter across the galaxy after use and destroy the earth in a year.
secondly how could overuse lead to created shadow dragons that are far stronger than majin buu you'd think the kami and the namekians would warn anyone about this
and lastly why did goku became one with the dragonballs shortly after beating Omega shenron?

>>155995540
>The premise of GT was basically the premise of the original dragon ball on a larger scale.
But then it was somehow executed in a smaller way, since they made all trips completely episodic, rather than adding new allies and rivals along the way like in the original.

Besides, Goku challenging the gods and causing problems for the god hierarchy also ties back into the Sun Wukong inspiration.

>>155997632
GT had just as odd power scaling as Super though (Base Goku reaches Kid Buu level with off screen nondescript training, Uub goes from Base Goku level to SSJ3 Goku level after "training in the mountains" to above that after fusing with Majin Buu... then suddenly is down to Trunks and Goten level by the Super 17 arc).

Not to mention that at least Super is doing these asspulls to enlarge the cast and feature more characters, GT was often written out everyone besides Goku, often without even proper explanations (like when Goku goes by himself to take care of the Shadow Dragons, followed by Pan, with the other Saiyans only arriving for Omega Shenron).