>Android 17 literally on par with SSB
This kills the powerlevelfags.
How will Toeicucks and Gokucucks ever recover from this?
Was there serious NOBODY else they could recruit for the Tournament of power?
WHERE ARE MY 17 BROS AT?
/OURGUY/ IS BACK
Where are you my fellow 17fags? Let's laugh at powerlevelfags together.
>People not understanding how power levels work
>people forgetting the entire concept of being able to lower one's power level at will, something REPEATEDLY stated CONSTANTLY in both the Saiyan saga and the Frieza saga of Dragon Ball Z
>people completely ignoring the decent quality animation and /comfy/ visuals of the episode
The amount of subhumans in the Dragon Ball community is genuinely SCARY and is depressing me to no end.
toyocucks are so assblasted
too illiterate to see that goku was holding back
>people completely ignoring the decent quality animation and /comfy/ visuals of the episode
Nah, Vegeta will always be the one and only jobbercuck.
>"m-muh toyotaro hahaha toeifags what a shitty episode!!! toei's super is just canon gt lmao"
>the fucking loser watches every single fucking episode of the show
really makes you think
Leave Jiren the Ayy to me.
I'm here brother, based 17 shitting on powerlevefags like no tomorrow.
>yfw all these years training with Whis
>random furry park ranger kicks your ass
>"I-I was h-holding back ok?"
>"kek me too"
Get ready, Gohan, Vegeta, because there's a new jobber in the town
I am really sad that Jiren's probably going to be a serious character, i really wanted to see him dancing.
At this rate, we're gonna see that bitch ass, Shin, match Goku.
But 17 outright said that if they continued fighting, Goku would've won, and that he knew Goku was holding back, and called Goku someone who likes fucking around before fighting for real.
He stopped the fight because the fight was going to destroy the area if they continued.
Also 17 has 3 children, but lives away from his wife and kids.
>the state of powerlevel fags right now
Thank you based Park Ranger.
Yes, of COURSE he fucking did.
He's TESTING their power levels to see how they'd hold up in the tournament, not trying to fucking kill them.
I genuinely don't understand why people are trying to find reasons to criticise this show. There are enough reasons already (the animation, the awful movie retellings, the off model scaling) without forgetting basic, elementary school knowledge about Dragon Ball Z.
>17 was Kamiccolo tier
>a total shit compared to imperfect Cell and 16
>then 16 is shit compared to semiperfect Cell
>who is shit compared to Super Vegeta
>but hey SS Goku is twice stronger than Super Vegeta
>and then Goku trained for 7 years in the other world
>a then he obtains SS3 form, which oficially is 8 times stronger than SS
>and then SS Gotenks, already SS3 Goku tier, goes SS3
>hey Gohan potencial is even beyond that, he's like 10 fucking times stronger than his father, then
>do you remember Super Buu? The guy at least stronger than SS2 Gotenks? He has Gohan strenght now
>but -MAGIC- SS Vegetto is way stronger and do you know what? He can even use SS3
>haha but SSG Goku is even stronger
>haha SS Goku is SSG Goku tier now
>haha he trained for years since then
>and he still can use SS2, twice stronger, and SS3, 8 times stronger
>haha and still SSB
>BUT 17 trained so he's Goku tier now
>inb4 power levels
It's called "power scaling" you fucktards
I will go to bed and when I wake up you motherfuckers hetter have the new mangaleaks ready or imma nuke your sorry asses
>literally all he has to do to beat Goku is use the Sleepy Boy Technique
Roshi's got this fight in the bag
i hope this comes true
it will be a literal full circle of this series and with uub being mentioned and cementing EoZ.
the salt and asspain will exceed Naruto, Bleach and Evangelion's shipfaggotries combined.
This is already confirmed, it's just a matter of time until the one and only, Uub, comes and get Bra and Pan BLACKED.
The only ones assblasted here are Superfags/Toeishills that think DBS is canon.
They know DBS is not canon, and Power Level bros are just laughing at them.
Watching this stream felt like a comedy, it was hilariously bad.
WATCH OUT GAY TROOPERS, BASED PARK RANGER GONNA RANGE THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR ASSES.
Not that I'm aware of, he just said that he was impressed with how strong 17 was. Could've missed it though if he did say that.
He did say "I'm glad that you're not an enemy" to 17.
>the two people in both threads complaining about power level fags
holy shit shut the fuck up. it DOESN'T MAKE SENSE that a fucking android from a decade old arc is magically on par with the main protagonist in the series. also bringing up rof doesn't magically make it better either, because that arc was garbage and nonsensical as well.
people are complaining because they want consistency in this god damn show. what's next? bulma on par with goku after she trains for a few weeks?
I can't wait until the butthurt. People are already mad that Roshi is even in the tournament.
>implying Goku isn't using SSBlue to give them the experience of fighting other God-tier opponents
The genuine lack of IQ and attention to detail with people in this thread I swear to fucking god.
SSJ3 is a SHIT transformation and Goku knows it by now. It's the reason why no one bothers with SSJ3 other than Goku and Gotenks.
>drains ki faster than any other form
>the power boost is pathetic compared to SSB
Goku was trying to show 17 what kind of foes would be in the Tournament of Power by showcasing the SSB form. It didn't have much impact because 17 can't sense power levels and God ki can't be sensed by non-God ki users.
>Frieza trains for four months, overpowers SSB Goku and Vegeta
>17 has a peaceful life for almost two decades, comes back and kicks post-Z Goku's ass
How broken would pic related be at this point? Could he destroy Earth just by powering up?
>yfw based Fit Buu, Krilin, 18, Tien, Piccolo, Roshi and 17 will do a better job in the tournament than Jobku, Prince of Jobbers and Jobhan
SUPER SAVED DRAGON BALL
Well it looks like Gohan isn't the only one who needs his daily dose.
>He's TESTING their power levels to see how they'd hold up in the tournament, not trying to fucking kill them.
>goes SSB against krillin even though he knows krillin is way outmatched at that point
Do you know what's worse? If SSB-tier A17 is in the manga that would mean it was in the outline, so would be Toriyama's bullshit, but toeishills would sperg "C-KEKATARO HAHA I KNEW MY SHITTY ANIME WASN'T SO SHITTY COMPARED TO THE MANGA"
>bulma on par with goku after she trains for a few weeks
Also I don't understand why you are so mad. Were you crying this hard when RoF happened? In that case you should have dropped this series back then.
You retards forgot about the next Goku transformation, you'll regret making fun of Goku jobbing to everyone.
Maybe it is a shit form but then is there really nothing between ssj and ssjb?
Are they so close to eachother?Or is Goku just using ssj3tier power in ssjb form?
Otherwise it makes 0 sense.
i'm mad because i'm watching a series i grew up with get savagely raped in front of my eyes. and there is literally nothing i can do about it.
honestly at this point if i had to choose between GT or Super, i would pick
>all the toyopedros ITT that don't understand that goku can hold back
>We aren't going to see 17's wife and kids
Thank you based Jū Nana-Gō for blasting the assholes of the powerlevel autists and their made up charts and numbers.
I miss Zamasu and Future Trunks arc. It was a good ride.
Super Saiyan Blue has greater "Ki control". Which means he can use the form to do shit like Kaio-Ken, and of course control it to match the power of others. God Ki works differently, and with your logic a character like Beerus (with God Ki) can't hold back to fight weaker foes.
Beerus took a full on slap on the back from YAMCHA. We know Ki control is more complex than just power levels.
Why do I feel like Gohan is going to be the most boring person to watch in Tournament of Power?
All members have something interesting going on with them, except for Gohan.
Goku - god ki, kaioken, instant transmission
Vegeta - god ki, final flash
Majin Buu - regeneration, magic, body manipulation
Androids - infinite stamina
Tienshinhan - solar flare, mafuba, tri-beam
Krillin - kienzan, solar flare x100
Roshi - mafuba and possibly a lot of different and interesting techniques, strategist
Piccolo - limb regeneration, stretchy arms, makanko-blablabla, strategist
Gohan - uhhh he's pretty strong? I guess? Not really since there's Goku and Vegeta.
Fuck I hope they either give him some cool new move or transformation, because I predict his fights are going to be a pain to sit through (Gohan vs Lavender was so boring).
This episode was fucking great. Based 17 saving Super.
Lol stay mad.
Your special snowflake #17 would get one-shotted at this point.
i wonder what fucking editor or producer thought this was going to be a fucking good idea and wow kids would like it and it would change dragon ball as we know
fucking toei producers with brain damage
They could go down to Hell to fetch Frieza and have Beerus threaten him with complete erasure if he doesn't help.
I like the current team but it seems like a plothole when you have someone very powerful available and don't give a reason for not bringing him. Not even someone saying "he's not a team player, we need coordination, good synergy and team spirit to win" just to shut people up.
>you ived to see the day that saiyans are irrelevant even with their asspull rage boost power ups.
toriyama is the greatest hack of all time, hes goku in the literal sense. he does stupid shit but people still eat it up because if he doesnt pull the greatest ruse cruise then who will?
kishimoto and kube has nothing on him.
>even SS Goten and Kid Trunks would BTFO android 17
Keep crying bitch nigga
He play fights, while Gohan fought for his life as a child
Toriyama obviously hasn't designed them, do you really want them to get filler designs? They'll probably introduce one of them when they need another male character for Uub/Pan's generation.
>experience of fighting god-tier oppoenents
>while supposedly holding back to fight on par with someone who's been fighting poachers all this time and could have been beaten by a lower-variant of ss1
toeicucks sure do lack any kind of understanding of consistancy. I guess that's how they can still think this show is good.
>Goku and Gohan will never be this sexy again
>I ONLY LIKE IT WHEN IT'S THE GOKU VEGETA SHOW
Autists still trying their best to prove that their beloved charts and number are useful to gauge the strenght of characters when they have been proven wrong since various episodes back.
Because his brother and father want him to have fun and take it easy.
>Goku's hair remains the same due to being a full blooded Saiyan
>Goten's will change when wet
It's the subtle things
SSBlue, as has already been said in this thread many times, has greater KI control.
He can lower it to his level, or he can increase it instantly to God level. Goku doesn't know how powerful 17 is, so using a form that has the POTENTIAL to reach lower or higher levels of power is ideal.
Again, for the 50th fucking time, it's a test.
Add Kid Trunks and we have a deal.
What was he thinking with these designs?
>To be clear, 17 *fought* Future Trunks, but he had no clue who he was then ("he's not in our data"). Did he learn when merged with Cell?
>Dende's latest bit of Namekian: panpei-nappo.
>Followed by "apenpon-koppi". "P" is used relatively little in Japanese, so it tends to pop up in fantasy/nonsense words, ala X in English.
>Japanese term for the day: 単身赴任/tanshin-funin, taking a job away from home...ie why the Super staff don't have to bother drawing 17's family
Well he wears it all the time as Saiyaman, you just gotta rip off his green top and bottom, anon
now i want to see the leaks of the manga
anyone else hyped to see how Toyotaro's going to deal with Vegitto? He's probably making him transform into SSG and maybe he'll change his design. Well, no problem, it will be cool to see something different once in a while
Friendly Reminder that second form Freeza stating that he had a power level of 1 million was the last time a power level number was ever mentioned in the anime or manga. While many villains have surpassed Freeza since then, they still have no canon power level numbers.
His casual EoZ outfit is better than that ugly casual outfit he wears in Super
Gohan! Leave some pussy for the rest of us!
>Has best girl
It's not fair, why does Gohan get all the good shit..
17 was stronger than SSJs without even training. Of course he can match bitch boy SSB. 17 is BASED
And we got a cool fight out of it. More than the manga gives us. I bet the manga will outright skip it or gives us a lame fight full of traced panels.
tldr; it makes perfect sense if you use your brain
>briefly look at dbz subreddit
>posts that are clearly from the naruto/bleach crowd
>not a single person has watched anything other than super
>people vehemently defending toeis garbage weekly
haha wow, i can't believe the tunnel vision there
Please don't bully the prince of Saiyans.
Yes. It needs more Torankusu though.
>>"i'ma use my highest transformation so I can hold back against this guy who I could beat 3.5 transformations ago!"
Dude, you know that forms work on multipliers right?
So for the sake of this post if Goku goes blue at like a power level of 10 and it multiplies it by I don't know 1000 that makes his power about 10,000.
Get what I'm saying?
Forms literally don't mean shit when you have characters who are in complete control of their output. That's like saying Batman could kill Superman in any scenario because Batman had a piece of Kryptonite stashed away one time.
Meta-Zamasu along with Jelly Black.
Again, as has been said in this thread many times, this guy wasn't even a match for a lower-variation of ss1 and has only been killing poachers for years, probably a bit of training. Being ss2 level would be a hard sell, needing SSB ki control is just retarded. As has also been said, even pre-android saga trunks was capable of very finely controlling himself. Thinking goku needed SSB is just mental gymnastics fit for cirque du soleil.
>Cell trains for an entire year because he's not a retard like Freeza
>Surpasses Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, And Whis
>No stupid gold transformations, just pic related
and that's the story of the universes' end
fusing some Trunks together
fusing some Mai together
and see where we'll end
yeah i also expect some retard fan fic tier shit out of toyo but stil wanna read it, its fun for killing time
>oh vegitto can't transform into ssg because he's too strong and it will break the way the world spins
>oh muh fanfic moves
>oh my rubber nen
He was leagues stronger than Frieza without any training. Frieza trained for 4 months and barely matched SSB Goku two years ago in the timeline from now. 17's been training for 10 fucking years, and he doesn't have superform weakness because he was smart enough not to bother with that shit.
17 >>>>>> Namek Frieza
17 + 10 years of training >>>>>> Frieza with 4 months of training
I love how the toeishills are jumping through hoops to justify this shit, but flip out over Vegeta us SSG on Black in the manga
>adult Goku never cries
>adult Vegeta always cries
What did Toriyama mean by this?
>That's like saying Batman could kill Superman in any scenario because Batman had a piece of Kryptonite stashed away one time
This is actually true though, Batman isnt afraid to whip out that piece of kryptonite when going up against superman. He just doesnt kill him because he likes to fuck with Superman.
>17: "You can do that transformation too?"
>Broly in the DBS Gachapon
What did Toei mean by this
>Android 17 being stronger than a SSJB isn't what's irritating. It's the laziness behind the writing that is. They just state things like "he's way stronger now!" But that's all we ever get. HOW?!
Cell was actually pretty arrogant though courtesy of both Frieza's and Saiyan genes.
H-He just trained anon, a couple of hours a day for some years would get you to SSB easily!
Buu is far stronger than 17.
Right now the real power ranking is.
1 Vegeta (was stronger than Black Goku)
2 Goku (was weaker than Black Goku)
3 Gohan (should be stronger than mystic Gohan right now)
4 Majin Buu
>b-but Goku needs SSB to hold back that much!
B A S E D
I hope this episode can put in the head of FANDOM, that the Goku SSJ Blue is pure KI control, and may decrease to increase its power whenever you want. I hope you finally understand that we are no longer watching DBZ nor the beginning of SUPER where the characters did not have the ability to control their ki without 'overflowing' as the Whis talks in training. Goku and Vegeta are totally on another level. Just as Berus with a slap in the face of the bulma did not kill her and did not even hurt, with 1 touch of his nail could destroy a planet.
Goku is using BLUE against his opponents to see if they are able to withstand the pressure of the level 'god' beings that will appear in the tournament.
If Nanatsu no Taizai had a larger following you can be sure that would seeing as they've introduced strict powerlevels unlike DB where they would change on a whim.
Other than that I can't think of any.
>People still think dbz is canon to Dragonball.
A kid with a monkey's tail turns out to be an alien and so is the demon king/god of the earth? LOL talk about fanfiction.
Batman wouldnt be able to kill superman then, but its not like Superman would be able to kill Bruce since he holds back, even when he knows Bruce is dead serious about going up against him.
Y-Yeah, he needs to go SSB to hold back! he can't do that while going SSJ! or base!
Well he watched the kid grow up since he tried killing him when he first arrived on Earth anon, to surpassing everyone in strength.
Well that's hard to say when his son exists.
reminder that if they had gotten a chance to recruit Yamcha Chaotzu Yajirobe and Tenshinhan into the fight, they, Goku Piccolo Roshi and Krillin could have bodied Raditz easily negating most of the series.
Goten hated on the great Saiyaman, Goten a shit!
>the writers realized there was no fucking way a single android 17 could beat any of the z fighters
You didn't watch GT did you.
Just a reminder that the previous arc was all about an alien android that takes over the earth and defeats all of the Z fighters bar Goku in less than a month.
>Some spic pulling numbers out of his ass made these.
Most are ridiculously low while some are stupidly high tf
He's like 13 now, he will soon want to fuck women and give up on training even more.
that or one with a dual personality
But it's real nice when you realize Vegeta was whooping his ass to being tsundere and worrying about his safety. The only development in DBZ that actually sticks and matters the most.
Vegeta will always care for Gohan. More than Goten, at least.
Gohan is a closer friend to Vegeta than Goku to Krillin
In the 5 years timeskip before Z Goku and Krillin never saw each other, while in the early Buu saga is implied that Gohan has seen Vegeta constantly through the seven years (Gohan also saw Krillin constantly in these years)
not him, but it's a meme for a reason. goku's a fucking deadbeat and piccolo and gohan are really close. He understood gohan a lot more than goku did when goku let him get his ass pummeled thinking it'll make him reach ss2. It's may be a meme, but there's a pretty strong argument for it.
>people thought Goku just spilling the beans on what happens to universes that lose in the tournament will make the fighters join without any fuss
>yet 17 is here refusing the fight because of this reason
You all said Gohan was stupid. What do you have to say now retards?
G-Goku was holding back g-guys, or m-maybe 17 trained with Whis offscreen! this is not headcannon and i'm not a dumb nigger!
what to express when two Trunks want you at the same time
>vegeta stronger than goku
I'd say that they were evenly matched against goku black and zamasu, even if vegeta was stronger goku has the ability to decuple his SSB power in an instant, which puts him in the lead.
So doesn't this shit mean 17 is now one of the strongest beings in existence? I mean just doing generic park ranger stuff for a few years let him reach the level of a god. Imagine if he actually trained for real in the Time Chamber? He'd wreck Whis and the Grand Priest easily.
A few years back I made a comment on a TFS abridged episode. This was back when they claimed that the show was non profit at the start of every single episode. I told them that they should tear down that disclaimer because they were obviously profiteering with their gaming channel and their t-shirts. I got like a hundred negative replies from TFS fanboys and surprisingly I got a hate fueled reply from I think it was Kaiserneko (the gay one). It was odd because TFS never freaking replies to youtube comments since they get a million of them. I must have pressed a button. Anyway after I said this they stopped claiming that their show was non-profit.
not him, but he was losing to Cabba because he wasn't fucking trying.
I don't know why people assume that using a form means you are using 100% of that forms power all the time.
>what to express when two Trunks want you at the same time
Why are people surprised a bio android specifically engineered to be stronger than sayains while using technology even the gods punish by death can keep up with goku after damn near 10 years of actual training.
Won't be surprised too he has some of cell in him due to being fuses with him the longest.
It's a very nice Mai cosplay indeed
You should already know that Goten doesn't even care about Goten.
Go from being cocky crown Prince... to being bullied your entire adult life.... to seeing someone you completely dismissed kick your ass. become your rival and then achieve a level that was thought to be completely mythological... twice...
Isn't life just full of surprises......
>Goten doesn't even care about Goten
>not even Goten cares about himself
wew lad, that's pretty funny disregarding the meme.
never skip this opening. never
So wait. I always thought 17 and 18 were at set powers levels and couldn't get any stronger but could never tire or run out of ki. Now they can train and get stronger? The anime I sear.
anyone else think this is all going to end with everyone getting mind wiped and goku and vegeta lose their SSB power? Uubs foreshadowing seems indicate Toriyama's original ending is going to be the ending
>pointing to a post I responded to
just look like a retard by trying to be a smartass.
how? gohan could bearly speak at the start of raditz saga, and piccolo took him right after it to spend a year with him. When goku comes back to life, gohan gets what? a day with his dad not including time fighting for his life? After namek goku decides he'd rather spend time with ayys than see his family again. Another year and a half without his dad. In the buu saga, he's either dead worried about training his other son to defeat buu.
goku's a deadbeat.
>The Lookout can go mobile
was this always the case?
Reminder that my boy Tenshinhan also got a power up and will be as strong as a SSB.
Shin Shin Kikouhou is gonna win the tournament
>Powerlevel fags btfo so hard they have gone quiet.