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>Android 17 literally on par with SSB
This kills the powerlevelfags.
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Power levels come from need senpai 17 will get kicked off the stage in the first 20 seconds
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>doesn't care if universe gets destroyed
>can't join tournament because he cares about the island
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Jesus it keeps getting worse and worse. God Toei sucks.
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DBS is not canon.

It's more retarded than GT
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>>155944335
How will Toeicucks and Gokucucks ever recover from this?
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Toei is an abomination. Long live Buddhataro.
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>>155944335
>Android 17 literally on par with SSB
Seriously?
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>>155944335

Was there serious NOBODY else they could recruit for the Tournament of power?
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>>155944335
New Power Rankings

1. 17
2. Majin Buu
3. 18
4. Krilin
5. Goku
6. Tien
7. Roshi
8. Piccolo
9. Gohan
10. Vegeta
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>>155944335
WHERE ARE MY 17 BROS AT?

/OURGUY/ IS BACK
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>>155944335
Where are you my fellow 17fags? Let's laugh at powerlevelfags together.
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Cuck-ku BTFO forever
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>>155944335

>People not understanding how power levels work

>people forgetting the entire concept of being able to lower one's power level at will, something REPEATEDLY stated CONSTANTLY in both the Saiyan saga and the Frieza saga of Dragon Ball Z

>people completely ignoring the decent quality animation and /comfy/ visuals of the episode

The amount of subhumans in the Dragon Ball community is genuinely SCARY and is depressing me to no end.
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toyocucks are so assblasted
hahahaha
too illiterate to see that goku was holding back
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If the next episodes follows Krillin and #17 that's what we gonna get:
>EPISODE 95 SPOILERS
>SSJ BLUE KAIOKEN 100x GOKU VS ROSHI! Goku struggles against his old mentor!
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>>155945104
switch vegeta and gohan and it's perfect.
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>"hey mr superfag, we have a problem her and we would like your input to see if we can find a solution"
>DUDE TRAINING LMAO
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>tfw goku is becoming the new jobhan
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>>155945139
>people completely ignoring the decent quality animation and /comfy/ visuals of the episode
bait
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>>155945172
Nah, Vegeta will always be the one and only jobbercuck.
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>"m-muh toyotaro hahaha toeifags what a shitty episode!!! toei's super is just canon gt lmao"
>the fucking loser watches every single fucking episode of the show

really makes you think
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>>155945139
t. Goku
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Leave Jiren the Ayy to me.

>>155945131
I'm here brother, based 17 shitting on powerlevefags like no tomorrow.
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>>155945139
>g-goku lost on purpose
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>yfw all these years training with Whis
>random furry park ranger kicks your ass

>"I-I was h-holding back ok?"
>"kek me too"

Get ready, Gohan, Vegeta, because there's a new jobber in the town
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I am really sad that Jiren's probably going to be a serious character, i really wanted to see him dancing.

AYYYYYYYYYYYY LMAO
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>>155945139
>lower one's power level at will
>"i'ma use my highest transformation so I can hold back against this guy who I could beat 3.5 transformations ago!"
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>>155945187
the sunset and animal visuals were nice, felt like a different show at times
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At this rate, we're gonna see that bitch ass, Shin, match Goku.
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Niggerdom101 will defend this
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It's clear that space poachers will kill the endangered animal and 17 will fight in Tournament of power.
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Post yfw you are not jobku
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>>155944335
what android version is he using?
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Leave Goku to me.
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>>155945143
>Desperately trying to start the anime vs manga shitstorm
Loosen up, (You).
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>>155944335
But 17 outright said that if they continued fighting, Goku would've won, and that he knew Goku was holding back, and called Goku someone who likes fucking around before fighting for real.

He stopped the fight because the fight was going to destroy the area if they continued.

Also 17 has 3 children, but lives away from his wife and kids.
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>mfw toei cockteases us about Uub
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Not as much of a bullshit asspull as 17 fusing with himself to become way stronger in GT
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>>155945298
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Saturday.. DBS day
https://youtu.be/kXM1oTR6iWk
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>the state of powerlevel fags right now

Thank you based Park Ranger.
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>>155945309
Didn't Goku also say that 17 was holding back as well?
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What's next, Roshi will be on par with SSB? Super is a complete joke.
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>>155945224

???

Yes, of COURSE he fucking did.

He's TESTING their power levels to see how they'd hold up in the tournament, not trying to fucking kill them.

I genuinely don't understand why people are trying to find reasons to criticise this show. There are enough reasons already (the animation, the awful movie retellings, the off model scaling) without forgetting basic, elementary school knowledge about Dragon Ball Z.
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>17 was Kamiccolo tier
>a total shit compared to imperfect Cell and 16
>then 16 is shit compared to semiperfect Cell
>who is shit compared to Super Vegeta
>but hey SS Goku is twice stronger than Super Vegeta
>and then Goku trained for 7 years in the other world
>a then he obtains SS3 form, which oficially is 8 times stronger than SS
>and then SS Gotenks, already SS3 Goku tier, goes SS3
>hey Gohan potencial is even beyond that, he's like 10 fucking times stronger than his father, then
>do you remember Super Buu? The guy at least stronger than SS2 Gotenks? He has Gohan strenght now
>but -MAGIC- SS Vegetto is way stronger and do you know what? He can even use SS3
>haha but SSG Goku is even stronger
>haha SS Goku is SSG Goku tier now
>haha he trained for years since then
>and he still can use SS2, twice stronger, and SS3, 8 times stronger
>haha and still SSB
>BUT 17 trained so he's Goku tier now

>inb4 power levels
It's called "power scaling" you fucktards
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I will go to bed and when I wake up you motherfuckers hetter have the new mangaleaks ready or imma nuke your sorry asses
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>>155945305
>literally all he has to do to beat Goku is use the Sleepy Boy Technique
Roshi's got this fight in the bag
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>>155945302
>>>/reddit/
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>>155945160
i hope this comes true
it will be a literal full circle of this series and with uub being mentioned and cementing EoZ.
the salt and asspain will exceed Naruto, Bleach and Evangelion's shipfaggotries combined.
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where the episode
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This is already confirmed, it's just a matter of time until the one and only, Uub, comes and get Bra and Pan BLACKED.
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>>155945344
The only ones assblasted here are Superfags/Toeishills that think DBS is canon.

They know DBS is not canon, and Power Level bros are just laughing at them.

Watching this stream felt like a comedy, it was hilariously bad.
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>>155945139
he could have gone ssj3 and see how that went.
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WATCH OUT GAY TROOPERS, BASED PARK RANGER GONNA RANGE THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR ASSES.
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>>155945405
>only people hating on toei are spics
really makes you think
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>>155945364
Not that I'm aware of, he just said that he was impressed with how strong 17 was. Could've missed it though if he did say that.

He did say "I'm glad that you're not an enemy" to 17.
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>>155945369
>only Goku is allowed to train
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>the two people in both threads complaining about power level fags
holy shit shut the fuck up. it DOESN'T MAKE SENSE that a fucking android from a decade old arc is magically on par with the main protagonist in the series. also bringing up rof doesn't magically make it better either, because that arc was garbage and nonsensical as well.

people are complaining because they want consistency in this god damn show. what's next? bulma on par with goku after she trains for a few weeks?
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>>155945440
that sounds pretty hot
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Goku is the anthony burch of dragon ball
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>>155945380
I can't wait until the butthurt. People are already mad that Roshi is even in the tournament.
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>>155945123
>>155945131

17 vs Piccolo is still one of my favorite fights of all time. Glad my nigga is back.
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>>155945459
>I didn't read the post
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>>155945272

>implying Goku isn't using SSBlue to give them the experience of fighting other God-tier opponents

The genuine lack of IQ and attention to detail with people in this thread I swear to fucking god.
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>>155945475
No it isn't.
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>>155945465
>people mad about THE Turtle Hermit being on the team
How much of a plebeian can one person be?
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>>155945407
SSJ3 is a SHIT transformation and Goku knows it by now. It's the reason why no one bothers with SSJ3 other than Goku and Gotenks.
>drains ki faster than any other form
>the power boost is pathetic compared to SSB

Goku was trying to show 17 what kind of foes would be in the Tournament of Power by showcasing the SSB form. It didn't have much impact because 17 can't sense power levels and God ki can't be sensed by non-God ki users.
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>>155945367
H-He was training, while taking care of the park, offscreen, this is canon, i promise.
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>Frieza trains for four months, overpowers SSB Goku and Vegeta
>17 has a peaceful life for almost two decades, comes back and kicks post-Z Goku's ass

How broken would pic related be at this point? Could he destroy Earth just by powering up?
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>yfw based Fit Buu, Krilin, 18, Tien, Piccolo, Roshi and 17 will do a better job in the tournament than Jobku, Prince of Jobbers and Jobhan

SUPER SAVED DRAGON BALL
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>>155945336
>fusing with himself to become about on par with ssj4
vs
>no-lifing on poachers for a few years to reach ssg level
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>>155945514

Oh shit, you're right. I don't like that fight at all. Thanks for correcting me, dipshit.
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>>155945460
It's consistent with the powerjump in RoF ;^)
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SSB is a fucking joke now.
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>>155945400
More like their poos loo'd
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>>155945510
>logic
> on /a/
> in a dragon ball super thread
stop my sides cant take it any more.
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Well it looks like Gohan isn't the only one who needs his daily dose.
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>>155945368
>He's TESTING their power levels to see how they'd hold up in the tournament, not trying to fucking kill them.
>goes SSB against krillin even though he knows krillin is way outmatched at that point
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Do you know what's worse? If SSB-tier A17 is in the manga that would mean it was in the outline, so would be Toriyama's bullshit, but toeishills would sperg "C-KEKATARO HAHA I KNEW MY SHITTY ANIME WASN'T SO SHITTY COMPARED TO THE MANGA"
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>>155945460
>bulma on par with goku after she trains for a few weeks

Yes.

Also I don't understand why you are so mad. Were you crying this hard when RoF happened? In that case you should have dropped this series back then.
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Why didn't 17 just kill Buu?
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>>155945557
Glad to be of help.
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Goku is also testing himself. He's going SSB and holding back to see how far he can attack a vastly inferior opponent without killing them.
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>>155945512

That means literally nothing. 17 may have been holding back LOADS more power and Goku could still have just used SSBlue's effective Ki control to match that.
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>>155945510
Nice excuse but SS Goku has been SSG tier since he fought Beerus in the anime
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>>155945586

He was testing how Krillin would react to being confronted with an overwhelming power, which he will be in the tournament.
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>>155945605
The same reason frieza didn't think of training for 5 minutes.
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>>155945602
>using a fucking gag to prove a point
wew lad
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>Broly appears in the DBS Gachapon
What did they mean by this?
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You retards forgot about the next Goku transformation, you'll regret making fun of Goku jobbing to everyone.
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>>155945309
>but lives away from his wife and kids
Why? He can fly
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>>155945530
Maybe it is a shit form but then is there really nothing between ssj and ssjb?
Are they so close to eachother?Or is Goku just using ssj3tier power in ssjb form?
Otherwise it makes 0 sense.
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i'm mad because i'm watching a series i grew up with get savagely raped in front of my eyes. and there is literally nothing i can do about it.

honestly at this point if i had to choose between GT or Super, i would pick neither
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>>155945660
>pinkeye Goku

Don't let him touch you or the infection will spread. Truly terrifying.
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>all the toyopedros ITT that don't understand that goku can hold back
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>>155945293
That bulge. That is the closest CP as is gets.
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I would've guess that Goku is suppressed his power so much that he is at Android Saga SS level. Explains how he is getting his ass kicked in SS form from 17.
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>>155945602
>Bulma crashes into Goku when she was driving
>unable to even budge him
>Bulma slaps Goku
>visible red wounds on Goku
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At least it's not as dumb as this shit
https://youtu.be/yZIHjv8Cofo
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>We aren't going to see 17's wife and kids
Fuck Toei
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LEAVE JIREN TO US
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Thank you based Jū Nana-Gō for blasting the assholes of the powerlevel autists and their made up charts and numbers.
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>>155945690
>holding back while use his strongest form
Try again, toeidog
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>>155945293
Man, Vegeta must REALLY like his son.
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I miss Zamasu and Future Trunks arc. It was a good ride.
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>>155945705
I unironically like it more than today's shit.
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>>155945647
Goku doesnt have the brain cells to think of something like this.
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>>155945641

see

>>155945639


Super Saiyan Blue has greater "Ki control". Which means he can use the form to do shit like Kaio-Ken, and of course control it to match the power of others. God Ki works differently, and with your logic a character like Beerus (with God Ki) can't hold back to fight weaker foes.

Beerus took a full on slap on the back from YAMCHA. We know Ki control is more complex than just power levels.
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>>155945139
It's just mangafags. Ignore them if you can. They're like this with every series. I wouldn't be surprised if they're the same people as the pcucks on /v/.
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>>155945682
You should go full damage control screaming something like:
>He was training!
>He was holding back!
>It's just filler!!
that works for the toeicucks.
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>>155945510
>I'll show you guys what it feels to fight a Tier 1

>But don't worry I'll hold back so you can fight a Tier 10
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Why do I feel like Gohan is going to be the most boring person to watch in Tournament of Power?

All members have something interesting going on with them, except for Gohan.

Goku - god ki, kaioken, instant transmission
Vegeta - god ki, final flash
Majin Buu - regeneration, magic, body manipulation
Androids - infinite stamina
Tienshinhan - solar flare, mafuba, tri-beam
Krillin - kienzan, solar flare x100
Roshi - mafuba and possibly a lot of different and interesting techniques, strategist
Piccolo - limb regeneration, stretchy arms, makanko-blablabla, strategist

Gohan - uhhh he's pretty strong? I guess? Not really since there's Goku and Vegeta.

Fuck I hope they either give him some cool new move or transformation, because I predict his fights are going to be a pain to sit through (Gohan vs Lavender was so boring).
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This episode was fucking great. Based 17 saving Super.
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>>155945727
Lol stay mad.

Your special snowflake #17 would get one-shotted at this point.
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>>155945705
at least in gt, the writers realized there was no fucking way a single android 17 could beat any of the z fighters
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>>155945705
i wonder what fucking editor or producer thought this was going to be a fucking good idea and wow kids would like it and it would change dragon ball as we know

fucking toei producers with brain damage
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>>155945733
>Forgetting that SSB it's all about ki control
Nice try paco
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>>155945780
He is just going to get mad as fuck and lose his mind.
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They could go down to Hell to fetch Frieza and have Beerus threaten him with complete erasure if he doesn't help.

I like the current team but it seems like a plothole when you have someone very powerful available and don't give a reason for not bringing him. Not even someone saying "he's not a team player, we need coordination, good synergy and team spirit to win" just to shut people up.
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>>155945782
Why isn't Goten ripped like his father or brother?
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>>155945788
Whatever makes you feel good after this episode proved that your number and graphic are NOTHING.
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>resurrect gero
>spawn androids
>owned other universes

profit?
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>>155945723
>you ived to see the day that saiyans are irrelevant even with their asspull rage boost power ups.
toriyama is the greatest hack of all time, hes goku in the literal sense. he does stupid shit but people still eat it up because if he doesnt pull the greatest ruse cruise then who will?
kishimoto and kube has nothing on him.
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>>155945788
>even SS Goten and Kid Trunks would BTFO android 17

kek

>>155945843
Keep crying bitch nigga
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>>155945780
Thats because Gohan is boring as shit. Its like you said, he has nothing unique going for him.
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>>155945830
He play fights, while Gohan fought for his life as a child
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>>155945830
Because he's a failure.
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>>155945525
>Goku SS3 that low

>>155945539
>Dabura been weaker than SS Goku
No. Gohan went SS2 when he fought him.
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>>155945828
Freeza would probably'accidently' kill krillin.
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>>155945820
>base future Trunks is already capable to low his powerlevel to 5
>but Goku needs SSB to low his powerlevel and not kill 17
You're not even trying anymore, I guess
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>>155945843
>a non-canon show did retarded shit
>"Haha y-you got b-btfo!"

You're a screeching autist while DBZ bros are laughing at you.
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>>155945780
how was Gohan vs Lavender boring? are you fucking retarded?
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>>155945257
>The Teeth Girl

Anyway, I find this whole situation hilarious. 17 a cute.
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>>155945708
Toriyama obviously hasn't designed them, do you really want them to get filler designs? They'll probably introduce one of them when they need another male character for Uub/Pan's generation.
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why was vegeta so pissed off in the nep?
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>>155945510
>experience of fighting god-tier oppoenents
>while supposedly holding back to fight on par with someone who's been fighting poachers all this time and could have been beaten by a lower-variant of ss1
toeicucks sure do lack any kind of understanding of consistancy. I guess that's how they can still think this show is good.
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>>155945782
>>155945886
>Goku and Gohan will never be this sexy again
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>SSJ3 basically irrelevant at this point
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>>155945886
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17 Is a shy introvert which is why he doesn't want to join the tournament.
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>I ONLY LIKE IT WHEN IT'S THE GOKU VEGETA SHOW
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>>155945858
>>155945788
Autists still trying their best to prove that their beloved charts and number are useful to gauge the strenght of characters when they have been proven wrong since various episodes back.

TOP KEK.
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>>155945912
because gohan is a shitty character
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>>155945830
Because his brother and father want him to have fun and take it easy.
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>>155945948
>Goku's hair remains the same due to being a full blooded Saiyan
>Goten's will change when wet

It's the subtle things
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>>155945759
Goku doesn't need SSB to hold back and defeat 17 you dipshit
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>>155946001
Here anon
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>>155945948
>saiyan soup
Would you eat this soup?
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>>155945853
toriyama is about as involved with this as GT. it's all toei and le AF man.
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>>155945946

SSBlue, as has already been said in this thread many times, has greater KI control.

>>155945759

He can lower it to his level, or he can increase it instantly to God level. Goku doesn't know how powerful 17 is, so using a form that has the POTENTIAL to reach lower or higher levels of power is ideal.

Again, for the 50th fucking time, it's a test.
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>>155946048
Add Kid Trunks and we have a deal.
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The important question is this; will 720p subs come out at a reasonable time for once? Fuck 480p and 1080p upscales.
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>>155946029
Thanks, looks nice.
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>>155946070
What was he thinking with these designs?
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>>155943876
>>155943982
>To be clear, 17 *fought* Future Trunks, but he had no clue who he was then ("he's not in our data"). Did he learn when merged with Cell?

>Dende's latest bit of Namekian: panpei-nappo.

>Followed by "apenpon-koppi". "P" is used relatively little in Japanese, so it tends to pop up in fantasy/nonsense words, ala X in English.

>Japanese term for the day: 単身赴任/tanshin-funin, taking a job away from home...ie why the Super staff don't have to bother drawing 17's family
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>>155945053
this is getting harder to argue. but at least super shits on furries.
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>>155946029
Black bodysuit Gohan was best Gohan, too bad he started using that shitty gi again on super.
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>>155946001
For a second I thought that filename said 'best OTP"
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>>155946085
>i-i only pretended to hold back
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>>155946114
didn't like the episode huh?
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>>155946101
VVVV V VVVEGETA IS A BADASS! HE EE EHE DOESN'T TAKE SHIT FROM NOBODY!! H HEE PRINCE OF ALL SAIYANS!
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>>155946120
Well he wears it all the time as Saiyaman, you just gotta rip off his green top and bottom, anon
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now i want to see the leaks of the manga

anyone else hyped to see how Toyotaro's going to deal with Vegitto? He's probably making him transform into SSG and maybe he'll change his design. Well, no problem, it will be cool to see something different once in a while
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>>155946120
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Now that Super borrowed from previous series/movies/games (again), what other recycled characters or plotlines can we expect next?
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>>155946157
Leave Vegeta alone. He makes Super interestinb
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Soon.
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Did the episode came out subbed already?
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>>155946161
Literally perfection
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Friendly Reminder that second form Freeza stating that he had a power level of 1 million was the last time a power level number was ever mentioned in the anime or manga. While many villains have surpassed Freeza since then, they still have no canon power level numbers.
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>>155946165
>>155946120

His casual EoZ outfit is better than that ugly casual outfit he wears in Super
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>>155946163
>BBBBB BB BUT U C VEGITO GOES FROM SSB TO SSG WHENEVER HE ATTACKS CUS SSG HAS SUPERIOR STAMINA
Spics will defend Toyo once again.
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>>155946205
They were just kidding about Roshi. Garlic Jr. is the last team member.
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>>155945257
Has Goku defeated anyone in Super with the exception of Botamo and that Furry from U9?
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>>155946165
Gohan! Leave some pussy for the rest of us!

>Has best girl
>Strongest fighter
>Best music

It's not fair, why does Gohan get all the good shit..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzRf41NO3Qg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oClQy9Wj-uI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfyeud94JnQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuPEdEJf7Nc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxEU1ELAuvc
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17 was stronger than SSJs without even training. Of course he can match bitch boy SSB. 17 is BASED
And we got a cool fight out of it. More than the manga gives us. I bet the manga will outright skip it or gives us a lame fight full of traced panels.

tldr; it makes perfect sense if you use your brain
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>briefly look at dbz subreddit
>posts that are clearly from the naruto/bleach crowd
>not a single person has watched anything other than super
>people vehemently defending toeis garbage weekly

haha wow, i can't believe the tunnel vision there
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>>155946157
Please don't bully the prince of Saiyans.
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>>155946048
Yes. It needs more Torankusu though.
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>>155945272
>>"i'ma use my highest transformation so I can hold back against this guy who I could beat 3.5 transformations ago!"
Dude, you know that forms work on multipliers right?
So for the sake of this post if Goku goes blue at like a power level of 10 and it multiplies it by I don't know 1000 that makes his power about 10,000.

Get what I'm saying?
Forms literally don't mean shit when you have characters who are in complete control of their output. That's like saying Batman could kill Superman in any scenario because Batman had a piece of Kryptonite stashed away one time.
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>>155946205
Meta-Zamasu along with Jelly Black.
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>>155946259
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>>155946085
Again, as has been said in this thread many times, this guy wasn't even a match for a lower-variation of ss1 and has only been killing poachers for years, probably a bit of training. Being ss2 level would be a hard sell, needing SSB ki control is just retarded. As has also been said, even pre-android saga trunks was capable of very finely controlling himself. Thinking goku needed SSB is just mental gymnastics fit for cirque du soleil.
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>>155945538
>Cell trains for an entire year because he's not a retard like Freeza
>Surpasses Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, And Whis
>No stupid gold transformations, just pic related
and that's the story of the universes' end
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>>155946217
fusing some Trunks together
fusing some Mai together
and see where we'll end
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>>155946239
yeah i also expect some retard fan fic tier shit out of toyo but stil wanna read it, its fun for killing time

im expecting:
>oh vegitto can't transform into ssg because he's too strong and it will break the way the world spins
>oh muh fanfic moves
>oh my rubber nen
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>>155946205
>Now that Super borrowed from previous series/movies/games (again)
Wait, when did a multiversal tournament and a mad god happen in previous series?
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>>155946269

He was leagues stronger than Frieza without any training. Frieza trained for 4 months and barely matched SSB Goku two years ago in the timeline from now. 17's been training for 10 fucking years, and he doesn't have superform weakness because he was smart enough not to bother with that shit.

tl;dr
17 >>>>>> Namek Frieza
17 + 10 years of training >>>>>> Frieza with 4 months of training
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I love how the toeishills are jumping through hoops to justify this shit, but flip out over Vegeta us SSG on Black in the manga
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>>155946269
DUDE TRAINING LMAO
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>>155946277
>adult Goku never cries
>adult Vegeta always cries
What did Toriyama mean by this?
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>>155946277
Here anon
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>>155946306
>That's like saying Batman could kill Superman in any scenario because Batman had a piece of Kryptonite stashed away one time

This is actually true though, Batman isnt afraid to whip out that piece of kryptonite when going up against superman. He just doesnt kill him because he likes to fuck with Superman.
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>>155946311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JqfIUFOnf4
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>17: "You can do that transformation too?"
>too
>Broly in the DBS Gachapon
What did Toei mean by this
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>>155946340
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>>155945104
1.Goku
2.Vegeta
3.17
4.Buu
5.Gohan
6.Piccolo
7.18
8.Tien
9.Krillin
10.Roshi

sorry this is what i meant
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>Android 17 being stronger than a SSJB isn't what's irritating. It's the laziness behind the writing that is. They just state things like "he's way stronger now!" But that's all we ever get. HOW?!
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>>155946427
if you had actually watched anything prior to super, you would know that 17 has never interacted with goku, and thus hasn't ever seen him transform
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>>155946205
Ends with Goku fighting against the Dragon God Zarama because they overused the Super Dragon Balls
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Haha, time for Power Levels!
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>>155946335
Cell was actually pretty arrogant though courtesy of both Frieza's and Saiyan genes.
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>>155946395
I'm talking about every scenario anon, including moments without Kryptonite.
That's how dumb this argument is.
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>>155946460
>If you told me Android 17 had been training with Whis or got some new cybernetic upgrades, it'd seem more plausible, but this is just lazy.
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>>155946427
Another Broly movie
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>>155946452
>Jobku
>Stronger than 17 or Krilin

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>155946308
Fucking this
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>>155946205
I honestly expect the Dragon Realm to be a thing in the future.

It's pretty much the only good concept in AF.
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>>155946497
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>>155945568

It was from the start

I dont think it hasn't jobbed against anything

Hit, freiza, black and other universes

Just kill it already
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>>155946460
H-He just trained anon, a couple of hours a day for some years would get you to SSB easily!
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>>155946308
draw some more
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>>155945160
Maybe Goku's power level was so high than increasing it make him start from 0
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>>155946497
>putting on a wig lowers your powerlevel
really makes you think
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>>155946452
Buu is far stronger than 17.

Right now the real power ranking is.

1 Vegeta (was stronger than Black Goku)
2 Goku (was weaker than Black Goku)
3 Gohan (should be stronger than mystic Gohan right now)
4 Majin Buu
5 Piccolo
6 17
7 18
8 Krillin
9 Tenshinhan
10 Roshi
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>>155946388
Neat, much appreciated anon.
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>>155946497
Do other anime have to put up with this bullshit?
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>>155946537
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>>155946308
>b-but Goku needs SSB to hold back that much!
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Here's another one
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMBBNOdYBw0

B A S E D
A
S
E
D
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>>155946308
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>>155946340
Will their babies come out fused too?
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>>155946586
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>>155945123
Holy fuck sometimes I want to watch this garbage.
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>>155944335
How do you know he wasn't holding back like he did versus Krillin in ss blue?
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I hope this episode can put in the head of FANDOM, that the Goku SSJ Blue is pure KI control, and may decrease to increase its power whenever you want. I hope you finally understand that we are no longer watching DBZ nor the beginning of SUPER where the characters did not have the ability to control their ki without 'overflowing' as the Whis talks in training. Goku and Vegeta are totally on another level. Just as Berus with a slap in the face of the bulma did not kill her and did not even hurt, with 1 touch of his nail could destroy a planet.
Goku is using BLUE against his opponents to see if they are able to withstand the pressure of the level 'god' beings that will appear in the tournament.
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>>155946388
Goddamn they care about each other so much. Vegeta saved Gohan like five times on Namek too. He's more of a father to Gohan than his own damn father.
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>>155946585
If Nanatsu no Taizai had a larger following you can be sure that would seeing as they've introduced strict powerlevels unlike DB where they would change on a whim.
Other than that I can't think of any.
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>>155946573
>piccolo stronger than 17

Not anymore anon, especially if his fight against Frost was any indication. Though maybe Piccolo got a massive off screen power up too.
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>>155946537
everything about this image is wrong
bora was probably a 10 and eighter was probably 200-250, he just refused to fight.
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>>155946573
>Gohan
>Stronger than Buu
kek
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>>155946640
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>>155946481
17 words make it seem like he had seen that transformation before, he was talking about SSB not SSJ.
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>People still think dbz is canon to Dragonball.
A kid with a monkey's tail turns out to be an alien and so is the demon king/god of the earth? LOL talk about fanfiction.
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>>155946505
Batman wouldnt be able to kill superman then, but its not like Superman would be able to kill Bruce since he holds back, even when he knows Bruce is dead serious about going up against him.
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>>155946691
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>>155946308
Y-Yeah, he needs to go SSB to hold back! he can't do that while going SSJ! or base!
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>>155945365
I wish they would find a way to make people who aren't sayians relevant again.
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>>155946460
pushups, sit ups and plenty of juice
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>>155945705
Better than what we got in super
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>>155946667
Well he watched the kid grow up since he tried killing him when he first arrived on Earth anon, to surpassing everyone in strength.
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>>155945293
WTF man
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>>155946735
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>>155946388
I bet Vegeta would love to tap that boypussi
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>>155946738
If 17 was too strong for ssj that would be the case indeed
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>>155946671
Piccolo was about to one shot Frost before Frost cheated using poison.
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>>155946667
Nigga, fucking Piccolo is more of a father to Gohan than Goku.
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>>155946754
Vegeta is the ultimate Gohanfag.
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>>155945293
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>>155946744
They could let Buu actually use his powers
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>>155946789
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>>155946825
But anon
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>>155946308
The Toeifags have to be baiting up a shitstorm because I can't see people truthfully being this retarded. There's no point in holding back in your most powerful form.
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>>155946823
>fucking Piccolo is more of a father to Gohan than Goku.
Nice meme retard. Go back to DBZA
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>>155946712
Well, you're right, DBZ is NOT canon to DB. Because DBZ is only anime and the manga is only called DB.
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>>155946825
Well that's hard to say when his son exists.
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>>155946866
>>
reminder that if they had gotten a chance to recruit Yamcha Chaotzu Yajirobe and Tenshinhan into the fight, they, Goku Piccolo Roshi and Krillin could have bodied Raditz easily negating most of the series.
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>>155946867
Goten hated on the great Saiyaman, Goten a shit!
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>>155946667
>being this retarded
wew
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>>155946570
>implying anyone here can think
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>>155945789
>the writers realized there was no fucking way a single android 17 could beat any of the z fighters
You didn't watch GT did you.

Just a reminder that the previous arc was all about an alien android that takes over the earth and defeats all of the Z fighters bar Goku in less than a month.
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>>155946911
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>>155946805
Was there ever any doubt?
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>Narrator: WILL 17 END UP NOT JOINING THE TOURNAMENT?
WE CAN FUCKING SEE HIM IN THE OPENING AND ENDING! WE ARE NOT FUCKING RETARDED JAPAN!
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>>155946550
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>Did you know Evil Buu was reincarnated as a human?
>Goku: "Nope!"

MOTHERFUCKING WRITERS. Goku mentioned Uub being born ages ago. DO THEY EVEN WATCH THEIR OWN SHOW?
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>>155946497
>>155946537
>>155946586
>>155946640
>>155946691
>>155946735
>>155946789
>>155946866
>Some spic pulling numbers out of his ass made these.
Most are ridiculously low while some are stupidly high tf
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>>155946917
He's like 13 now, he will soon want to fuck women and give up on training even more.
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>>155946884
But anon, muh ki control! Goku needs SSB, otherwise he CAN'T hold back himself enough XD
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>>155946908
Vegeta considers Future Trunks his true son.
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>>155946959
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>>155946986
>toei flanders comic relief goku
>knowing anything
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>>155946984
please don't stop drawing, these threads need some quality content
keep doing this cause its funny as shit
thanks
(don't hold back)
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>>155946629
that or one with a dual personality
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>>155947009
Anon please stop, no more!
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>>155946984
I love you, anon

Can I do a better version?
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>>155946754
But it's real nice when you realize Vegeta was whooping his ass to being tsundere and worrying about his safety. The only development in DBZ that actually sticks and matters the most.
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>>155947009
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>>155946984
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>>155947050
>dual personality
Like Launch?
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THEY FUCKING MENTIONED UUB IN DETAIL GOD DAMNIT I HATE HIM SO MUCH. EoZ IS THE WORST PART OF THE DB MANGA.
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>>155947050
Why the long face Mai?
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>>155946831
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>>155946908
hes literally letting him eat shit?
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>>155947074
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>>155947073
Vegeta will always care for Gohan. More than Goten, at least.
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>here comes the powerlevel fag pulling random numbers out his ass.
wow the damage control is palpable
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>>155946667
Gohan is a closer friend to Vegeta than Goku to Krillin

In the 5 years timeskip before Z Goku and Krillin never saw each other, while in the early Buu saga is implied that Gohan has seen Vegeta constantly through the seven years (Gohan also saw Krillin constantly in these years)
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>>155947104
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>>155946986
wasn't Goku the one that asked for him to be brought back as good person in the first place?
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>>155946823
You could say Krillin was a better one as well or anyone that was raising him at the moment.
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>>155947050
>pic
Mai is ready to be double-teamed by both Trunkses.
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>>155947127

>>155947139
they're not random retard.
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>>155946885
not him, but it's a meme for a reason. goku's a fucking deadbeat and piccolo and gohan are really close. He understood gohan a lot more than goku did when goku let him get his ass pummeled thinking it'll make him reach ss2. It's may be a meme, but there's a pretty strong argument for it.
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>>155946984
out fucking standing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQbYvjmfbr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkKcC6hbLTA
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>people thought Goku just spilling the beans on what happens to universes that lose in the tournament will make the fighters join without any fuss
>yet 17 is here refusing the fight because of this reason

You all said Gohan was stupid. What do you have to say now retards?
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>>155947193
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>>155947217
See >>155946885
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>>155947217
Not that dude but it's kind of funny, if you remove the Cell arc completely then Goku becomes a better father.
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G-Goku was holding back g-guys, or m-maybe 17 trained with Whis offscreen! this is not headcannon and i'm not a dumb nigger!
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>>155947256
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>>155947263
t. American Goku
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>>155947250
Well Goku isn't really all that trustworthy, People would actually panic if Gohan brought it up.
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>>155947193
they are consistent as toriyama's memory.
oh wait...
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>>155947303
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>>155947240
Pedro stop
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>>155947050

>>155947080
>Like Launch?
who?

>>155947102
>>155947182
what to express when two Trunks want you at the same time
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>>155947303
>16 stronger than 17 and 18
They should recruit 16 for the tournament instead of 17.
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>>155947310
See >>155946885
Oh wait didn't Toei nuke their ass from youtube? Sucks to be you.
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>>155946938
>Save each others lives multiple times
>T-They hate each other!

I think the clueless retard is you fuccboi.
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>>155947351
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>>155947365
That Mai is pure sex
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>>155947286
geekdom is white
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>>155947368
He's actually dead for real
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>>155947066
Sure
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>>155947127
>x20 Kaioken Kamehameha has more powerlevel than Frieza at full power
>can't kill 50% Frieza
WHAT?
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>>155947368
but hes gone
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>>155946984
Don't want to ruin the joke but you can actually argue that 17 > SSJ, 18 kicked the shit out of SSJ Vegeta
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>>155945272
Goku held back against Beerus after getting Super Saiyan God
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>>155947407
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>>155947389
>T-They hate each other!
Where did I say that retard? Kys
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>>155947413
Geekdom is a pedro
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>>155947454
SSJ Is as strong as whatever the user wants it to be. SSJ Vegeta was losing to SSJ Cappa until Vegeta decided to just raise his power.
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>>155946573
>vegeta stronger than goku
I'd say that they were evenly matched against goku black and zamasu, even if vegeta was stronger goku has the ability to decuple his SSB power in an instant, which puts him in the lead.
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>>155947466
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>>155945755
He literally says it right when he does it.
>Goku: So what will you do now?
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>>155947368
hes dead.
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So doesn't this shit mean 17 is now one of the strongest beings in existence? I mean just doing generic park ranger stuff for a few years let him reach the level of a god. Imagine if he actually trained for real in the Time Chamber? He'd wreck Whis and the Grand Priest easily.
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A few years back I made a comment on a TFS abridged episode. This was back when they claimed that the show was non profit at the start of every single episode. I told them that they should tear down that disclaimer because they were obviously profiteering with their gaming channel and their t-shirts. I got like a hundred negative replies from TFS fanboys and surprisingly I got a hate fueled reply from I think it was Kaiserneko (the gay one). It was odd because TFS never freaking replies to youtube comments since they get a million of them. I must have pressed a button. Anyway after I said this they stopped claiming that their show was non-profit.
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>>155947386
>trying this hard to make yourself relevant

Its like you really are goku, lel
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>>155947502
not him, but he was losing to Cabba because he wasn't fucking trying.

I don't know why people assume that using a form means you are using 100% of that forms power all the time.
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>>155947533
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I N F I N I T E E N E R G Y
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>>155945788
Goten and Trunks couldn't even handle 18 working together
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>>155947580
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>>155947162
>>155947365
>what to express when two Trunks want you at the same time
Absolute happiness.
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>>155947454
Depends on which SSJ Goku we're talking about.
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>>155944335
It makes less sense than Frieza becoming as strong as Goku.

Super is shit
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>>155947576
>I don't know why people assume that using a form means you are using 100% of that forms power all the time.
Did you forget that these people are retarded?
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Why are people surprised a bio android specifically engineered to be stronger than sayains while using technology even the gods punish by death can keep up with goku after damn near 10 years of actual training.
Won't be surprised too he has some of cell in him due to being fuses with him the longest.
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>>155947579
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>>155947631
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>>155947579
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>>155947579
kek
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>>155947576
Why even bother using anything other than your base form if you're going to pull punches?
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>>155947412
It's a very nice Mai cosplay indeed
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>>155947643
>reaching this hard

I like and defend Super overall, but even I admit this episode was shit.
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So Gero is officially the greatest scientist in all the universes right?
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>>155947579
kek
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>>155947668
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>Android 17 = SSB Goku
I'm done. Bye
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>>155947138
You should already know that Goten doesn't even care about Goten.
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>>155947681
to throw your enemy off guard more by making them think you have already powered up, but you are actually still holding back.
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So the whole saiyan beyond God form has been trashed by Tosi and Toyo right?
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What did Dende mean by this?
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>>155947681
>middle grounds don't exist
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>>155946382

Go from being cocky crown Prince... to being bullied your entire adult life.... to seeing someone you completely dismissed kick your ass. become your rival and then achieve a level that was thought to be completely mythological... twice...

Isn't life just full of surprises......
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>>155947718
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>>155947741
Toyo did literally nothing wrong. it's only the retarded anime writers fucking it up.
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>>155947708
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>>155947708
>Could you please call Whis?
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>>155947433
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>>155947732
>Goten doesn't even care about Goten
>not even Goten cares about himself
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>>155947708
wew lad, that's pretty funny disregarding the meme.
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>>155947688
The fact that Earth can produce shit to counter space kangz and frost lizards actually makes me happy.
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>>155946825
>Not Piccolo
Anon...
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never skip this opening. never
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>>155947681
Shock value I guess, if any of the fighters run into Jiren tier opponents at least they won't be caught off guard
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>>155947767
>Toyo did literally nothing wrong.
Well except for fuck everything up in both his own manga and this arc which he's currently spearheading.
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>>155947733
>im only pretending to be crushed
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>>155947777
witnessed
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>>155947708
>goku talking to whis while getting tribeamed
my sides
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>>155947810
It's the best opening in anime.
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>there are people unironically defending this episode

It's just bait right?

..They're just pretending to be retarded, right?
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>>155947468
What were you even trying to insinuate then you piece of shit? That Goku is the superior father?
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So wait. I always thought 17 and 18 were at set powers levels and couldn't get any stronger but could never tire or run out of ki. Now they can train and get stronger? The anime I sear.anyone else think this is all going to end with everyone getting mind wiped and goku and vegeta lose their SSB power? Uubs foreshadowing seems indicate Toriyama's original ending is going to be the ending
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>>155947579
Please do more of this when you can.
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>>155947857
Yamcha'd
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>>155947263
>pointing to a post I responded to
just look like a retard by trying to be a smartass.
>>155947283
how? gohan could bearly speak at the start of raditz saga, and piccolo took him right after it to spend a year with him. When goku comes back to life, gohan gets what? a day with his dad not including time fighting for his life? After namek goku decides he'd rather spend time with ayys than see his family again. Another year and a half without his dad. In the buu saga, he's either dead worried about training his other son to defeat buu.
goku's a deadbeat.
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>>155947854
>being this retarded
wew
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>>155947865
Toriyama said years ago that the androids, since they are human, could train and become stronger
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>The Lookout can go mobile

was this always the case?
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>>155947857
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Reminder that my boy Tenshinhan also got a power up and will be as strong as a SSB.

Shin Shin Kikouhou is gonna win the tournament
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>>155947852
You literally fucking can't. He didn't even hint to him holding back in SSB
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>Powerlevel fags btfo so hard they have gone quiet.
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>>155947865
>I always thought 17 and 18 were at set powers levels and couldn't get any stronger but could never tire or run out of ki</