Dragon Ball Super

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>SSB struggles against things it has no business struggling against, like Krillin and Android 17
>SSB Gogeta jobs worse than SSJ2+Knuckles Trunks
>Base Goku and SSB Goku seem to work almost as well as one another against both Hit and Toppo
SSB has no feats

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This is a strawpoll I've wanted to create for a while.

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It's a minor aesthetic thing that seems to spark an argument quite a lot even though there is no real official translation of the names thus far.

>>155932700
powerlevelfags are annoying

>>155932700
>SSB was the one struggling against Krillin
Do you fuckers even watch the show or just shitpost?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBAu-nUzcc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzRf41NO3Qg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oClQy9Wj-uI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsYmjmga_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVtaUL7pnes

How can japs even compete?

Faulconer is too good.

>>155932700
>Krillin

When will this meme end? Goku in base could already beat Krillin. He only became SSB symbolically after that flashback of Krillin telling him not to hold back when they were young.

>>155932700
The power scaling in DBS is so fucked that Super Saiyan transformations seems to be just mere palette swaps with barely any difference in strength.

How many more hours?

>>155932731
Not sure why people get so mad and worked up over the names when they're translated differently in each localization. There was a time where people would blow their shit over Beerus, Beers and Bills. Pretty sure the same people would still blow their shit over it.

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I hope that 17 mentions in this episode, or at least has a flashback about his bro 16 and that he decided to become a park ranger as a tribute to him.

That would be nice.

>>155933026
Five Freezer minutes

>>155933047
I just get mad when people use spic names like Bills or Jerez.

>>155933026
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_JP.aspx

around 2hrs 30 minutes from now, basically 9am Japan time.

What if, instead of getting SSB, Goku and Vegeta had lost the ability to go SSJ? You could have the plot stay almost identical, just with some different resolutions to the fights.
Seeing Goku and Vegeta go up against SSJ Rose in their base forms would have been interesting.

>>155933085
If I had the choice to disregard their alcoholic names I'd just name ヘレス as Helleth because it looks cool.

>>155932731
>furcuck this upset

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>>155933085
>being an idiot

>>155933255
Keep crying pablo, Helles is better.

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Ten will have his big power-up too, right?

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>>155933255
>trusting toei with anything

>>155933255
>Helles (ヘレス, Heresu) is the God of Destruction of Universe 2.

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>>155933255

>>155932617
Why is goku such a man child?

>>155933338
Why didn't King Kai teach any of the Z fighters not named Goku the Kaio-ken?
>inb4 i-it's fatal for humans
Well that didn't stop Triclops from learning the Kikoho or Mafuba.

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>>155933358
>Wijis
>Buils

>>155933358
>>155933405
There's no reason to think Jerez's url is wrong, though. ヘレス can be adapted to "Helles" or "Jerez" and some URL says it's "Jerez", while no official media use "Helles"

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>>155933405
Ah yes, God of Destruction Buils.

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Why is the SSG transformation used constantly in the manga by Goku and now Vegeta, but in the anime has not being used since the Goku vs Beerus fight?

>>155933541
>Buils The Destroyer
ftfy

>>155933504
He could be very apprehensive about teaching people the technique. The Saiyan Saga may have been the only time he viewed it as truly unavoidable and he's right.

>>155933541
I like these wide-snout Beerus shots for some reason.

>>155933567
Because Toyo's a fanboy for the form enough so to ditch the sense of continuity Toriyama was going for in it's absorption.

>>155933567
Toei likes SSGSS more

>>155932700
Gohan in base form was stronger than SSJ3 once.
Like the Old Kaioshin said, the transformation itself isn't important. Goku at base level now would devastate SSJ Goku when he fought against Freeza.

>>155933057
He always seemed the carefree kind of guy that didn't really care about humans, I think one of the spoilers touch upon this. He's opposite to 18 in that regard.

>>155933338
Did they confirm he was the last one recruited by Goku? If so, they're saving the best fight for last.

>>155933331
>being this mad because Toriyama likes spanish's sherry
Really?

>>155933625
No, episode titles reveal that after 2 episodes of Goku x 17, it's an episode of Piccolo x Gohan, then Tenshinhan episode after that.

Still missing Roshi.

>>155933567
Because Toyotaro and Toei have different ways of interpreting Toriyama's outline.

Cabbe is my favorite saiyan.

>>155933625
>Gohan in base form was stronger than SSJ3 once.
That was entirely justified in lore, and was set up over the course of several episodes. Conversely, we keep getting told that SSB is strong, but the alleged jump in power doesn't make sense considering what's on the screen.

>>155933504
IIRC, Yamcha and Kuririn can do Kaioken in the games. The thing with Kaioken isn't how taxing it is to learn - I'm pretty sure any of the Z-Fighters can learn it. It's because it's a power boost that can be done as long as your body holds up. I mean, fighters would want to push their limits every day - Kaioken is dangerous because "If I can do x2, why can't I do x3?" And that spirals out of control. I think that's the true danger of Kaioken. The fighter knows he can push himself up, but his body will give up on him.

>>155933625
>17 is an aspie
literally /our guy/

>>155933567
Because both Toriyama and Toyo like SSG more

>>155933567
Because he actually cares about consistency.

Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

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Hello Anon, I have a pretty big power level. What is YOUR power level?

>>155933614
>The Saiyan Saga may have been the only time he viewed it as truly unavoidable and he's right.
While that is true, the Namek saga was also quite dire (and at the time nobody knew that Goku would go Super Saiyan), hell maybe Piccolo with Kaio-ken could be able to keep up with the Saiyans. Besides with how regenerative Namekians are, surely the Kaio-ken wouldn't be nearly as dangerous for them.

>>155933696
I'm busy Juan, go play with your Tien Shin Hand doll.

>>155933770
>Cuckotaro
>consistency

lmao

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Gowasu is unironically my favorite DBS-original character, even though we don't get to see much of him.

>>155933821
>Gowasu is unironically my favorite DBS-original character,
Too bad the anime version is nothing but a walking meme.

>>155932617
>Movimiento de Izquierda Revolucionaria

Fucking commie

>>155933716
Yeah, but that in itself can be explained that SSB is a state that's easier to fight in, kinda like when Goku and Gohan came out of the Time Chamber during Cell Saga. I don't think at all that there's much of a boost between SSG and SSB, just that the power is controlled more easily.

But you do have a point. The strongest transformation by then, SSJ3, had a huge drawback, and it wasn't enough against Beerus. I think SSB is slightly stronger, but without the drawback. Also, stuff like Trunks fighting on par with Black, or Zamasu even touching Goku was bullshit. In the manga, they try to avert this by saying that Zamasu is really weak (SSJ2 level), but they can't do anything against him because he's immortal. Kinda like a cockroach.

>>155933883
Dragonball is a meme

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>>155933567
Because Toriyama wanted to scrap that "saiyan beyond god" thing (SSG power in base form) to have SS, SS2 and SS3 again, but they NEED SSG power to go SSGSS, so Toyotaro just change "beyond god" for actual SSG and make Goku and Vegeta switch between how they were before RoF (mortal ki and forms) and how they were in RoF (god ki and forms).
For some reason Toei just ignore the whole SSG's power thing and just turns every Goku form in god-tier and make Vegeta god-tier as well because he trained a year with Whis (which makes no sense because how the fuck he can go SSGSS then)

>>155932700
OFMG BULMA IS BEERUS LEVEL, CAUSE SHE SURVIVED A SLAP FROM BEERUS OMFG

>>155933804
So no argument then
Are you also a dubfag?

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>>155933813
>"cuck"
>"lmao"

>>155932617
Leave the poachers to me

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>>155933941
Gohan is God tier in the anime.

>>155933941
I prefer anime desu
There's more of a sense of progression that Goku has god power in base now, also directly continues from the movies more seamlessly.

>some don't realize that
>1)Goku is playing around
>2)all of these Goku fights with their companions are lessons for the tournament that will be useful and obvious as hell

>>155933057
Yeah, I hope they remember 16 somehow.

>>155933941
>saiyan beyond god
That was such an awful attempt to market base form merch as something different. Would've been better off just keeping SSG instead. Probably would've sold better.

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Why do people think Goku's stupid? TFS memed up Goku's "stupidity" too hard. Just read some of the stuff he said throughout the series.

>[When Frieza kills Vegeta] Goodbye, Vegeta. You’re not as cold-hearted as you believed yourself to be. A heart of stone can’t shed tears like you did. You must have been holding them back your whole life. I’m the only one left. I think I understand you now. You weren’t grieving over your own death, or because our home planet was destroyed. You were grieving because he turned you into what he wanted you to be. You never had a chance to be anything else. Well I still respect you. I know you made a lot of mistakes, but now I see that it wasn’t all your fault. You had the fiery will of a Saiyan. Please share that with me now, ’cause I need it. Thank you for saving my son’s life and buying enough time for me to recuperate. I’ll do my best to carry out your wish. (to Frieza) It’s true. Vegeta’s right. You have no honor. For him. And for everyone else you’ve destroyed, I am going to finish you.

Is it because they're stupid and can't comprehend the 11D multiversal chess based Son kun is playing.

>>155933770
>Because he actually cares about consistency

Which is why his manga is terrible.
Consistency is boring, we don't need that in DB.
At times, consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show. Toyo cannot understand that and the manga suffers for it.

>>155934177
You keep on spamming this shit, the answer is still the same Toei's flanderization.

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>>155934171
I think nips responded negatively to SSJGod
Probably why SBG existed, desu. And why it now only continues in the less-popular format with less exposure.

>>155934177
>Is it because they're stupid and can't comprehend the 11D multiversal chess based Son kun is playing.

tfw something you said gets worked into anon kun's b8pasta

>>155934211
>Consistency is boring
>consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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What's his endgame?

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Soon

>>155934117
17 isn't Goku's friend, and from the preview, it seems both are fighting at above their regular levels.

>>155934177
It's not just TFS. Fillers and movies did it too.
Hell, there's a filler during Cell Games where Tao Pai Pai and this gang give Goku a puzzle to solve, and he does (although after quite a while).
Remember when Goku kicked the grenade back at Tao Pai Pai? He knew what it was.
Or when he arrived in West City and asked a policeman where Bulma lived?

>>155934271
>it's "get mad as spam "Hahahahaha" when I have no argument fag

Not an argument.

>>155934297
Crashing this multiverse with no survivors except himself and maybe Chi Chi

>>155934326
What about Gohan and Goten and Uub?

>>155934396
>"Who?"

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>>155934177
Goku isn't stupid. Anybody who has read through the manga from the very beginning from when he first meets Bulma as a child until the very end when he flies off with Uub knows that.

As much as I dislike bringing up the whole Toei vs Toyo debate,the problem is that he's been flanderized to ridiculous levels in the Super anime to the point where it's annoying. I'm sure TFS and their shitty abridged series had an effect too, but not as big as Toei.

>>155934326
>implying he won't just take Uub like last time and leave everyone else to die.

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Why don't Goku and Gohan use this form anymore?

>>155934109
I fucking hate this
Why the fuck Toei didn't did the same Toyotaro did? Isn't even about fucking SSG but basic logic.
Toei loves make filler, just make fighters fight randomly with a shitty excuse, why they didn't use the "switch" thing? It would be logical but no we have base Vegeta beating SS3 Gotenks, and then SS Goku fighting SS Gohan, or Frost (who is almost defeated by Piccolo). The "switch" thing is the best option for a series.

>>155934318
Said companions because team for the tournament. But 17's fight will also be a lesson to Goku, be for not sensing his ki due to be android or something else like a new ability 17 developed due to their unlimited ki bullshit

>>155933699
Isn't Roshi at Tien's dojo?

>>155934211
>We can only have fun if it's an inconsistent mess

Nah.

>>155934502
SSG was received negatively.
They wanted to get it out of the series whilst making Base Goku ridiculously powerful (through the absorption of God into his base, which also solves the SSG problem), so he could toy with enemies he'd ordinarily need to go SSJ to beat, also giving the show a greater sense of scale.

>>155934494
They use it
That form is just fucking SS being relaxed, even Goten can do it

>Hypin up n°17
They are hyping up this faggot, like, really?

Even Ten IS stronger than him at this point. Base goku should kick his ass with one hand tied up.

>>155934600
No I mean all the time. Never reverting back to base form aside from sleeping.

>>155934494
because it makes you look like a delinquent.

>>155934552
Honestly, I think Goku is just going to ask him and he'll accept. Probably at the end of Tenshinhan's episode. I don't expect anything right now, but it isn't possible that Japan doesn't know how popular Tenshinhan is in the rest of the world.

>>155934552
Roshi travels places nowadays instead of just watching softcore porn at his beach island home with Oolong and Kame?

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>>155934648
Chichi pls go

>>155934639
>Even Ten IS stronger than him at this point. Base goku should kick his ass with one hand tied up

Based on what?

>>155934791
his ass

>>155934639
Some huge 17's fanboy i guess.

>>155934711
>troublemaker
>not delinquent

>>155934584
>SSG was received negatively.
As I said, isn't about SSG. They could have made him get red eyes or something when he's using SSG's ki in base form and then make them use SSGSS as the next form.

>so he could toy with enemies he'd ordinarily need to go SSJ to beat
The problem is, only Goku and Vegeta power was upgraded so makes no sense when they are clearly god tier in some scenes but you could say their power is still Boo arc tier in others. At least if they don't fight with older characters (Gotenks, Gohan, etc) you would ignore it but they still making inconsistent filler fights.

>>155934791
>Spoonfeed me please
No. Look for yourself, it's not that hard.

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>>155934805

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>>155934842
17 will join the main cast and become a regular from now on?

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>>155934796
>top left is Toei version of that part of RoF script of "Vegeta protects Earth of Freeza's attacks"

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>>155934852
>They could have made him get red eyes or something

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How low has Gohan fallen if he needs to get his daily dose again?

>>155933836
Why does Jiin look retarded?

>>155934951
Just an example
"Switch" was the right choice and Toei should have done it too. No SSG? Some other shit but not what they did

>>155935045
Because Yamamuro HATE us

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>>155935045
Because of the dudes at Toei.

>>155935129
Holy shit, is it confirmed to be him? Did his style just shit the bed or what?

>>155934584
>SSG was received negatively.
Eh? Bandai still includes it in the games all the time. Heroes gave it to all Saiyan avatars even. And then we have Toyotaro that's obviously a fan of the form and pushing it in the manga.

It only seems to be Toei itself that dislikes the form - they even removed its return at the end of the battle with Beerus to stop the final blast.

>>155932617
Mary Sueventeen

>>155935190
Not the same case. That's from the series, I can ignore some shitty shots but Geen's art is from the fucking website, a static image that represent a relevant and mighty character, no one can excuse that shit.

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>>155935129

>>155934644
Whyte would they? It was about mastering the form by getting used to it.
It's not even a transformation. It's just so they can use SSJ as easily as their base form.
SSJ2 is really a Super Saiyan going through the transformation process again.

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>>155935381
WHAT THE FUCK

>>155934502
SSG spam is fucking retarded you faggot, biggest asspull in the series but you Toyocucks eat that shit right up

At the end of the Buu Saga, 17 gives his energy to Goku and mention that "he hasn't heard his voice in a long time".
And yet they never met. It's probably just a mistake, but I wonder if they will mention the Super Spirit Bomb event.

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>>155935509
>asspull

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>>155933770
>consistency.

>>155934916
First learn what the term spoonfeeding means. Second, you made a claim so it falls on you to prove it you stupid fuck. The fact that you can't just proves how wrong you are.

Show me one piece of evidence that Tien is stronger than him at this point.

>>155935565
It's a mistake. It was supposed to be Lunch.

>>155934211
>Consistency is boring, we don't need that in DB.
>At times, consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show

Then people ask why is this fanbase such a cancer

>>155935509
>SSG spam
Are you on drugs?

>>155935509
>biggest asspull in the series
Nah, that title still belongs to Kaioken Blue.

>>155934570
>>155935624
toyocucks hate fun

>>155935586
(You) again?

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>>155935694
>that title still belongs to Kaioken Blue.
not even

>>155935726
I love fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlrcxeQau1E

>>155935739
Oh shit, good point. I'd successfully managed to forget the end of that arc. My bad.

>>155935800
Based Toei providing the memes
Cuckotaro btfo yet again

>>155935726
Pulling power ups out of your ass every minute isn't fun for me, you have fairy tail for that

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If they want inconsistent fights so badly because "it's fun" why not they just play DB games?

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>>155934211
jesus christ, is this what this fanbase has become?

>>155935941
>Fairy Tail

Cringe

>>155936045
t. Cuckotaro

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A few years back I made a comment on a TFS abridged episode. This was back when they claimed that the show was non profit at the start of every single episode. I told them that they should tear down that disclaimer because they were obviously profiteering with their gaming channel and their t-shirts. I got like a hundred negative replies from TFS fanboys and surprisingly I got a hate fueled reply from I think it was Kaiserneko (the gay one). It was odd because TFS never freaking replies to youtube comments since they get a million of them. I must have pressed a button. Anyway after I said this they stopped claiming that their show was non-profit.

>>155933057
>17 has a pineapple on a stick with a face painted on it
>He talks to it like it's 16

>>155936148
>Cringe

Exactly, that's what I feel when I'm watching Super's anime

does nips use Daylight saving time? what hour is the new episode?

>>155934211
>Consistency is boring

Please tell me this is a meme

>>155936314
>Toyotaro mad as fuck he's secondary-canon

>>155936348
It's on in 2 hours 15 minutes.

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WHERE ARE MUH LEAKS

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>>155934211
>Consistency is boring. At times, consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show.

>>155935726
But they love autistic dialogue like "e-emotional damage xP"

>>155935565
Gero's spy flies were keeping tabs on Goku and co. He's probably seen or has files on the guy considering he was supposed to kill him.

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>>155936418

I hope we see 17's wife and kids

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>>155936410
thanks

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>>155936476
>the quality of that gif

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>>155934211
>At times, consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show

Holy shit this fanbase

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>>155936451
>toeishills using mistranslations as insults
It makes a great reaction pic.

>>155936451
>autistic ridiculously prideful immortal genocidal beings cannot be hurt emotionally

>>155936255
niceu, niceu, very niceu, anon-chan

>>155934945
Toei made both versions

>Consistency is boring
Reminder that this is a stupid excuse used only Toei shills.

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>>155936382

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>>155936521
Better?

>>155934211
>Consistency is boring, we don't need that in DB.

What?

>>155936584
Yeah but the movie is still Toriyama's. RoF arc was Toei only and you see how shitty was

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>>155936632
Much better anon.

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>>155936493
But we've already seen her

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>>155936632
Why is Vegito's hair brown sometimes?

The only character which looks reasonably close to its Z counterpart is Android 17. I don't know why the characters look so off model, sometimes even in the same episode they look different. Apart from that I have big hopes for this arc.

>>155936722
I'd mark out if she was his wife

>>155936741
Vegeta hair is supposed to be brown, so Vegitto has half brown(Vegeta)-half black(Goku) hair.

>>155936529
What the fuck was Toyotaro thinking with this line?

>literally stay back doing nothing the entire time
>let daddy do all the work
>show no sign of anger whatsoever at the guy who killed everybody in your word
>the only thing you can muster up to say is "DUDE EMOTIONAL DAMAGE LMAO"

>>155936741
Because Vegeta hair is brown "sometimes" (when they fuck up with the colors). Pure saiyan hair is canonically black as your dirty soul

>>155936314
why are even here? this is a anime thread

>>155936148
>Cringe

But that's exactly what you want out of super? You don't want consistency, you want asspull power ups. Fairy Tail gives you that. You should love it.

yamcha spinoff chapter when?

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>>155936815

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>>155934211
Animefags getting worse everyday

>>155934271
>>155934570
>>155935624
>>155936045
>>155936366
>>155936442
>>155936528
>>155936667
>>155936915
Good day Pedro

>>155936529

lmao the sheer state of cuckotaro

>>155934211
Pic related is the average toeishill now,

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>>155936958

>>155936957
>hurr durr le Pedro
Everytime

>>155936045
DBZ was never consistent, people didn't care back then either, the power levels alone made no sense. In super, goku is suddenly capable of being damaged by bullets, even though he was never damaged by bullets as a kid and now hes far far stronger. Just forget the consistency, it's not the toriyama way.

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>>155934211
Is this falseflagging again? Please tell me this is falseflagging

>>155936958
>>155936990
>forgot his pic

lmao

>>155937035
>ywn be butthurt enough to make this image

Based Toei living in your head rent free

>>155934211
So this is why SAO was popular in /a/

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>>155937031
>DBZ was never consistent
Please stop bullshitting.

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>>155936957
>LMAO DO YOU WANT CONSISTENCY, KEKS? FUCKING SPICS XD

>>155936815
He wanted to find a way to get himself out of the corner he was put because of his insistency on rbeing consistent. He has the delusional belief it makes a story better. While that can be true for some stories it definitely isn't for Dragon Ball.
He is not writing a mystery or a novel, it is just a shounen. Why he keeps insisting on doing this is beyond me, if he gave up trying to be consistent he could be doing some really good stuff with his artwork Just imagine if he made a SSG x10 Kaioken in the manga, shame it will never happen because x10 Kaioken wouldn't be consistent enough for him.

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>>155937031
Toeishill even if it was largely inconsistent it could be rationalized, even if just a little bit. Trunks beating up Rose Black? Him pulling out a spirit bomb and beating merged Zamasu?
Nothing can explain that

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>leaks soon
>Toeishills came back just for that

>>155937035
>make a strawpoll
>result doesn't go the way he wants
>make a meme image out of it

Toyocucks LITERALLY can not stop taking L's

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Anons

>>155937031
>Toei shills trying to hide behind Toriyama
Top kek

>>155937031
>the power levels alone made no sense
They were never meant to. In the fight against Raditz we're shown that they're bullshit because Goku and Piccolo throw around moves way above what Raditz expects from their power levels. It's just another example of Toriyama's "don't judge a book by it's cover" fetish.

OP 2 remastered?
https://youtu.be/kXM1oTR6iWk

>>155937119
Leaks of what?
The DBS Manga?
Nigga nobody reads faggoty-ass manga, fuckin weeb

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>>155937129
I'm glad you liked the finished pic anon.

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>>155934211
>At times, consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show.

You can't have both consistency and fun now?

>>155937199
>somebody makes a typo
>this is what constitutes an epic win image nowadays

Can you please shoop my post into this 1337 picture? I'd like to pretend I toasted in this epic bread, my fellow /b/astard

>>155937199
>/v/ screencap
Nice dubs though

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>>155937254
Me too, anon

>>155937090
let's start with the obvious power level inconsistencies...
at the beginning of dbz goku has become no weaker than he was at the end of dragonball, a show in which the enemies constantly get stronger by large margins all the time.
yet at the begging of dbz the farmer's power level is 5 and goku's is only 416...
goku spent years training, becoming progressively and exponentially stronger throughout dragonball, and by the end he is only about 83 times stronger than the average human.
he started off at least twice as strong ffs.

>>155937199
>anon presses "7" instead of "8"
>WOOOOAH EPIC FAIL >>>2017

Cringe.

>>155937158
Too much Goku in that one
This is superior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1rxjDA0aXs

>>155937199
Sometimes it makes me sad that the only arguments they have are "ebin mario kart" and "le emotional damage xD"

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It'll be just like last month. Toeishills start blasting and at the last minute they get btfo'd so hard it's laughable.

I noticed that they retconnected a lot of shit in Super related to the ages of the characters, they made Bulma and Vegeta younger, and also Trunks and Goten, most probably because they have a lot ideas how the story should progress. I'm afraid they will make it like One Piece, a continuous shitfest without ending.

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>toeishills right now

At least wait for the manga to be totally assblasted guys

>>155937090
>2 manmade cyborgs are more powerful than friezer the emperor of the universe

>>155937347
>Toeichads
>btfo

This has never, and will never happen.
These threads are literally just Toyocucks getting bodied on the weekends and ded as fuck mon-fri
The sheer amount of images a'la >>155937199 Toyocucks have made just means they take L's like their mothers take D's.

>>155937347
>"b-but how is Vegeta switching between SSG and SSB if he was unable to go SSB twice in the tournament? TOYOKEKS BTFO!!!"

>*full translation shows up and Vegeta trained to go SSB many times without losing power*

Maybe those retards will finally learn to wait for the chapter to come out completely translated before talking shit.

>>155937422
Why would the manga make anyone assblasted?
Nobody cares about Cuckotaro's fanfiction.

>>butthurt-o-meter

Toyocucks confirmed reddit

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>>155937347

>"b-but how SS Black lose against not!Blue Vegeta if he's already SS3 tier in base form? TOYOKEKS BTFO!!"
>*next chapter shows up and Black was just wanting another zenkai*

>"b-but how is Vegeta switching between SSG and SSB if he was unable to go SSB twice in the tournament? TOYOKEKS BTFO!!!"
>*full translation shows up and Vegeta trained to go SSB many times without losing power*

Unforgettable

>>155937344
Not more sad than being a turbocuck sucking the dick of a subpar tracer artist, with "muh consistent story" and "muh artwork" being the only arguments you have.

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>>155937505
At this point you're going to bash people using reaction images.

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>>155937505
>fanfiction
Do you mean Toei's anime with Toyotaro and Toriyama characters?

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>>155937539
>with "muh consistent story" and "muh artwork" being the only arguments you have.
Apparently having a consistent story and good artwork is bad..?

>>155937485
>>"b-but how is Vegeta switching between SSG and SSB if he was unable to go SSB twice in the tournament? TOYOKEKS BTFO!!!"

holy shit I remember this
Toyocucks are still recovering

>>155937485
>>155937532
>same chunk of text twice

Toyocucks in damage control

>>155937554
top cringe

>>155937590
based toei making toyo's characters watchable
toyo can't cope with the fact he's secondary canon

>>155937532
What's even more hilarious is that a toeishill actually LIED about reading the chapter and said it wasn't explained.

>>155937485
>>155937532
>anons using my pasta
Cheers

>>155937199
God Toyocucks are so fucking pathetic.

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>>155937539
>Nobody cares about Cuckotaro's fanfiction.

Toei does

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>>155937645

>>155932617
Let's be honest, dbs is pretty shit in comparison to dbz.
>Goku is fucking retarded beyond usual, and a bit of a cunt (he's essentially a parody of himself at this point.)
>the animation is modern yet less detailed to the point that it just looks like a cartoon
>the storylines are inconsistent
>all the characters are sort of confused about what their personalities are
>plot holes after plot holes
>Zeno is fucking annoying and sadistic to a fault.

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Do Toeidrones get this defensive every month around manga release time? The threads were relatively tame but now they're back attacking in full force

>>155937645
>this Toei shills rushing to reply to all the people talking shit about Toei and their fans
Top kek

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>>155934297
To get locked into a seperate dimension where he fights a dream-like copy of every elite fighter ever for the rest of his life.

>>155937648
>tfw I was the anon who posted Herms' translations of the explanation in that thread
>tfw he was so btfo he never replied

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What the fuck is going on here?

ENOUGH. Or Gohan is gonna nuke this fucking thread.

>>155937505
Little Toyominions think people give a fuck about their shitty manga enough to get butthurt over it.
In the future, people will think of the anime when they think of Dragon Ball Super. They will not think or even remember of the manga, it is too unmemorable to remember and inferior to the anime as a whole.

>>155937668
Toeishills are from Universe 9, the thrown together universe

>>155937539
>turbocuck sucking the dick of a subpar tracer artist
But nobody was talking about Young Jiji.

>>155937505
Actually it was confirmed that all Toyocucks are either Mexican or Canadian.

Is Gohan training with piccolo already this episode?

>>155937347
>cuckotaro's fanfiction
>blowing anyone out

Nobody reads the manga.

>>155937700
based toei making cuckotaro's awful traced characters look good

>>155937720
Cringe

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>>155937645
>based toei making toyo's characters watchable

I know it's bait at this point, but kek

>>155937729
Gohan couldn't nuke a tv dinner at this point.

>>155937729
The only thing he's going to blow up is the our minds when he wins

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>>155937304
Torankusu will need a larger condom than that one

>>155937717
Yup. Last month they exploded with Vegeta using the SSG-SSB thing.

>>155937717
>Do Toeidrones get this defensive every month around manga release time?
Yes and no
They get defensive but not that much, they become worse every time because they are more and more scared about the manga every month

>>155937347
>>155937554
cringing hard

>>155937485
>>155937532
I remember this
>H-HE WANTED TO LOSE
>H-HE TRAINED SUPER-HARD SO HE CAN SWITCH NOW *retconretcon*

I agree, Cuckotaro will NEVER recover from this.

>>155937801
>those WOAT Cuckotaro designs

JUST

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>>155937729

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>>155937837
MAAIIIIIIII

>>155932700
>expecting a kids' show to make sense
are you also upset at George Lucas kek

Reminder that all of the Cuckataro GoD's were written out of the story by based Tori.

>b-but muh stronkest!!!!!!

You will never see them again after this arc.

>>155937864
>because they are more and more scared about the manga

>scared about something we don't read
>implying anyone's scared of some deviantart hack's secondary-canon trace-fest

Toeichads don't care about the manga, they just like to trigger Toyocucks monthly

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>toeishills!
>toyocucks!

ENOUGH!!!!!!!

STOP FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

*explodes into a Super Saiyan 2*

..What's wrong? Isn't this what you wanted?

>>155937872
>super saiyan was consuming energy
>trains in hyperbolic time chamber to remove weakness
RETCON
RETCON EVERYONE, OH THE HORROR

>about 2 hours until the thread gets good again

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>>155937645

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>>155937801
Can't wait for Toyotaro to draw her.

>>155937864
>>155937933
This
Toeichads get guaranteed (You)'s
DBS Anime gets guaranteed views
Toyotaro's manga is guaranteed poo

>>155937948
c r i n g e

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>>155937947
How's that hand holding for you? I remember it being defiled.

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>>155937963
>until the thread gets good again
>good again
>good

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>>155937872
>he doesn't even know what "retcon" means

>>155937991
>cringe
wew haven't seen that word in a while.
>>155937963
They were good until a certain sperging toeiautist

So, are the poaching ayy lmaos going to be in this episode or the next

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>>155937991
>Toeichads get guaranteed (You)'s
>DBS Anime gets guaranteed views
>Toyotaro's manga is guaranteed poo

>>155938048
POACH
MY
SEMEN

>Vegeta trains for three years in the Room of Asspulls and Memes before U6 tournament
>still struggles with SSB for some unexplainable reason
>trains for one year
>suddenly a master at SSG/SSB

Toyotaro can't write for shit

>>155937926
Do you mean like Mosco or Rumoosh?

>giving a damn about the consistency of chinese cartoons

This thread is full of millennials, holy shit.

>>155937963
You mean until people start sperging out over not understanding shit.
And then sperging out over Herms' translations when he inevitably fucks something up again.

>>155937948
>>155938036
Reminder that Cuckotaro's fan-base jump through more mental hoops than they could real ones because they'd just get stuck

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>new episode today
>Anons talking about the manga

Did I miss the leaks? is the chapter out?

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Don't worry Gohan, let me handle this.

Tell me. Have you shitposters ever experienced fear?

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>>155937905
TORANKUSU!

>>155938086
>Vegeta trains his SSB form for 4 years
>he doesn't surpass the cooldown until the last year
Fucking Toyocuck huh bro xD ?

>>155938165
>Did I miss the leaks? is the chapter out?
No, not yet.

>Black is boring, literally Xicor 2.0
>Goku doesn't even try to fight Black, completely out of character
>Trunks is a beta cuck who lets daddy do all the work
>Mai is a Mary Sue
>Vegeta doesn't even care about a Trunks world
>Gohan literally hasn't made an appearance since BoG
>Gowasu is a senile retard who thinks Black would hesitate to kill him again
>Zamasu doesn't even do anything

Why can't Toyo into writing good characters?

So.. this is what a civil war in /a/ looks like

*grabs pitchfork*
allllright, do I join the Toeis or Toyos?
What's in it for me?

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>>155937963
>about 2 hours until the thread goes from Anime vs Manga meme wars to Powerlevel circlejerking

>>155937713
It's pretty hard to top Z anyways. Super is vastly different from it in the way it's structured.

>>155938193
>just trains to get stronger in 4 years
HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE WEAKNESS
>trains actively to remove weakness of blue for 1 year
HOW DID HE GET RID OF THE WEAKNESSES

>>155938168
Tell me, Toyocuck, have you experienced sex?
Didn't think so.

>>155938193
This
Fucking toyocuck

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>>155938165
>Did I miss the leaks?
No, they are just THAT scared

I can't wait for the actual manga, their sperg will be delicious

>>155938086
>Vegeta trains for three years in the Room of Asspulls and Memes before U6 tournament
>says he's peaked as SSB and can't get anything worthwhile out of training anymore
>trains for one more year
>suddenly slaughtering someone that was raping him before

Toei aren't any better

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She is so CUTE

>>155938165
No, just Toyopedros autistically screaming again because some people are saying inconvenient truths.

SPOILERS

The arc didn't end this chapter. Vegetto ends the chapter

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I'm just going to wait for the Gohan episode preview to update my pasta.

>Trunks x Mai

Absolutely terrible taste.

>>155938298
>that person who he was slaughtering somehow got more stronger and beat the crap out of him
>nulling Vegeta's cool speech about saiyan cells

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>>155938211
>>155938284

Fuck. Back to the cave.

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>>155934211

That's one hell of a shitpost

>>155938276
>tell me Toyocucks, have you ever experienced sex

HOLY SHIT

TOYOCUXKS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!!!

Salvaging this thread.

LEVEL 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdWxaWT3hw

LEVEL 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY0hj4XZdb0

LEVEL 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SyWm37vXzs

LEVEL 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtqA8Wz4LWE

LEVEL 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVov2BNIcw

LEVEL 6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRgPN-ECB4

LEVEL 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGUZKfFJq3Q

LEVEL 8:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Gq2NxTvak

LEVEL 9:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wG84efH4sw

LEVEL 10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tum1P5jm_so

The chapter ends with Vegetto unfusing and everything looking hopeless, Goku then remembers the button and to be continued

>>155937604
He may care more about explaining (with little effect in practical), but other than that, the guy's pretty mediocre at pacing, with very cringey stuff sometimes.

>>155938242
Cuckotaro
>virginity
>the sanctity of your cherry
>NEETbux
>small dick
>a comfy spot in mommy's basement

Toeichad
>six-figure starting pay
>pussy on the daily
>mammoth wang
>mansion with pool

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>>155938308
Fucking Christ, I haven't seen a Ginefag since the Black arc

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>>155938308
MINE

>>155938397
Probably the best way it could end all things considered.

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Growth becomes easier the stronger you get.

It's why powerlevels over 1000 are rare across the universe, which is also why Saiyans at PL 1000-4000 on average were considered super dangerous and why early zenkai boosts are so low and shitty for them.

Freeza's soldiers ranked between 500-2000 presumeably and his elites were in the ranges of 10k-25k and the ginyu in 40k+ ranges, with Captain Ginyu being so retardedly powerful at 120k that literally the only character besides Freeza that could compete with him prior to the Namek saga was like, Oozaru Vegeta.

It's also possible people like Yamcha and Krillin are freakshows like the Ginyu force and have absurdly high potential and growth compared to their race's averages. Except they actually fucking train so achieving levels of like 200k is entirely possible.

As for Goku and Vegeta and Gohan, once you pass that threshold of the higher thousands it seems zenkai boosts legit skyrocket in power, I think Vegeta even says something abut that. The reason Saiyans never got that strong before is because there's not enough good competition in the universe for them to level up on. Once they reach like 5000-10,000 they're pretty much unstoppable as far as typical warriors go. Even Namekian warriors weren't as strong as Bardock, King Vegeta, or Nappa, save for Nail of course. And obviously the 10x boost from Oozaru made them even more impossible to beat granted a full moon was out. An army of Great Ape Saiyans could have killed Freeza and his elites if Freeza never managed to transform in time.

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>>155938308
>>155938458
>>155938459

Alright, Ginefags assemble!

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What the fuck happened? The thread was fine when I left an hour ago and I come back to this shitstorm.

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>>155938458
Where have you been, cutie

>>155938284
Scared of an irrelevant manga that won't be remembered in the future when people think of Dragon Ball Super?
Oh please, spare me the horror, Toyoboy. HAHAHAHHAHAHA
My sides.

>>155938494
Unlike the anime version, in the manga it ends with Goku worried about pressing the button, since he remembers what Whis and Beerus warned him of

>Saiyan saga
Vegeta (Great Ape): 100,000
Goku (Kaioken x3): 24,000
Vegeta: 18,000
Goku (Kaioken): 16,000
Gohan (Great Ape): 13,200
Goku (after training): 8,000
Nappa: 6,000
Piccolo (after training): 3,500
King Kai: 3,500
King Yemma: 2,000
Tien (after training): 1,830
Krillin (after training): 1,770
Raditz: 1,500
Yamcha (after training): 1,480
Gohan (after training): 1,320
Saibamen: 1,200
Yajirobe (after training): 970
Chiaotzu (after training): 610

>end of DB / start of Z
Goku: 416
Piccolo: 408
Kami: 320
Mr. Popo: 300
Tien: 250
Krillin: 206
Korin: 190
Master Roshi (buffed): 180
Yamcha: 177
Yajirobe: 168
Chiaotzu: 152
Master Roshi: 139
Chi-Chi: 130
Farmer: 5

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>>155938542
I thought you were that cosplay Freeza anon for a second, I've been hiding with the Gohanfag that lost the bet

>>155938525
Some anon is having an autistic meltdown, I guess.

>>155938525
Toeishills getting their asses ready for the leaks. If its anything like last month, you should stick around to see them get raped.

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>>155938308
She sure is.
A shame she is and will always be noncanon and irrelevant, like Bardock.

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>>155938524
BEST GIRL

>>155938581
>Namek saga
SSJ Goku: 150,000,000
Frieza (Final Form 100%): 120,000,000
Goku (Kaioken x20): 60,000,000
Frieza (Final Form 50%): 60,000,000
Goku (Kaioken x10): 30,000,000
Frieza (Final Form): 3,000,000
Goku (Zenkai boost): 3,000,000
Vegeta (Zenkai boost #3): 2,400,000
Frieza (3rd form): 2,120,000
Piccolo (fused w/ Nail): 1,260,000
Frieza (2nd form): 1,060,000
Gohan (enraged): 1,000,000
Frieza: 530,000
Goku (Kaioken): 180,000
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
Gohan (Zenkai boost #2): 100,000
Goku: 90,000
Vegeta (Zenkai boost #2): 60,000
Recoome: 46,000
Jeice: 44,000
Burter: 42,000
Nail: 42,000
Vegeta (Zenkai boost): 30,000
Zarbon (Transformed): 28,000
Gohan (Zenkai boost): 25,000
Vegeta: 24,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Ginyu (in Goku's body): 23,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Cui: 18,000
Gohan (Potential unlocked): 14,000
Krillin (Potential unlocked): 13,000 (tops at 75,000 vs Frieza)
Guldo: 10,000
Namekian warriors: 3,000
Krillin: 1,800
Gohan: 1,500
Frieza's soldiers: 1,400
Namekians: 1,000

>>155938525
Manga leaks are imminent any day now, this brings out the trolls (or troll, it's probably just one guy)

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>>155938524
She would have spoiled Gohan so much.

>>155938397
I really hope we get Vegetto vs Zamasu this month

>>155938525
Random anon wasn't okay with DB having consistency because it's "boring". Got a lot of (You)'s and the rest is meme wars.

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>>155938626
Y-You too

>>155938308
>>155938459
>>155938542
when will super introduce best girl gine

>>155938633
>Android saga
SSJ2 Gohan: 7,500,000,000
Super Perfect Cell: 7,500,000,000
Perfect Cell (powered up): 4,500,000,000
MSSJ Gohan (enraged): 3,750,000,000
Perfect Cell: 2,600,000,000
MSSJ Goku: 2,500,000,000
Cell Juniors: 2,000,000,000
USSJ Vegeta: 1,800,000,000
USSJ Trunks: 1,700,000,000
Semi-Perfect Cell: 860,000,000
Android #16: 500,000,000
Piccolo (fused w/ Kami): 360,000,000
Android #17: 360,000,000
Android #18: 350,000,000
Imperfect Cell: 320,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 280,000,000
SSJ Goku: 270,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 255,000,000
Piccolo (without weights): 180,000,000
Mecha Frieza: 150,000,000
King Cold: 120,000,000
Dr. Gero: 100,000,000
Android #19: 70,000,000
Vegeta (after 3 years): 5,600,000
Goku (after 3 years): 5,400,000
Piccolo (after 3 years): 5,000,000
Gohan (after 3 years): 3,000,000
Krillin (after 3 years): 150,000
Tien (after 3 years): 120,000
Yamcha (after 3 years): 100,000
Goku: 3,600,000
Trunks: 3,400,000
Vegeta: 2,800,000
Piccolo: 1,800,000
Gohan: 250,000
Krillin: 75,000
Tien: 60,000
Yamcha: 50,000
Chiaotzu: 13,000
Hercule: 10

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>>155938640
Here anon

What about shut the fuck up and wait for the real leaks, guys?

Christ this is the first timei been in this tread for months. Is it all shitposting?

>>155938685
>Buu saga
Super Vegito: 400,000,000,000
Super Buu (Gohan absorbed): 200,000,000,000
Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed): 120,000,000,000
Mystic Gohan: 90,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 44,000,000,000
Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed): 42,000,000,000
Super Buu: 40,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 30,000,000,000
Kid Buu: 30,000,000,000
Majin Buu: 25,000,000,000
Vegito: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Goku: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan: 5,700,000,000
Kibito Kai: 5,600,000,000
SSJ Gotenks: 5,500,000,000
SSJ Goku: 4,000,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 4,000,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 2,850,000,000
Dabura: 2,800,000,000
Supreme Kai: 2,300,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
Yakon: 640,000,000
SSJ Kid Trunks: 525,000,000
SSJ Goten: 500,000,000
Gotenks: 110,000,000
Gohan (Z Sword): 90,000,000
Goku: 80,000,000
Vegeta: 64,000,000
Gohan: 57,000,000
Kibito: 56,000,000
Kid Trunks: 10,500,000
Goten: 10,000,000
Tien: 250,000
Krillin: 240,000
Pui Pui: 180,000
Spopovitch: 30
Yamu: 28
Videl: 21
Hercule: 10
Punta: 8

>>155938660
>Gine learns that Raditz and Goku died fighting each other
Thanks Obama.

>>155938525
Toyopedros got told their favorite manga is shit, then they start to throw a tantrum over it for the entire thread.

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I used to be a mangafag, but now I'm favoring the anime. This Zamasu arc has been terrible in the manga
It started off good but then

>No Goku vs Black
>Trunks doesn't face Zamasu
>Trunks contributes nothing to the fight
>Black only fights Vegeta
>No 3v1 or 2v2 fights
>No team up attacks
>Black is boring
>SSG shoehorned in

Just disappointing. Hope the Universal manga arc is better.

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WHERE'S THE LEAKS