They were literally made for eachother.
Is there anything better than little girls suffering?
There are a lot of weird looking bodies in the series but people generally don't have extra body parts and the like unless they're fishmen.
Big Mom's family is abusive and as meanspirited as they get, picking on her for an extra eye seems natural.
Some was fun like the roller skating, the filler fit the arc though if you didn't like the arc in the first place it wasn't going to win you over
More than you can say for modern filler
I'm just saying the individual parts of it were fun to watch, which was good enough for something as silly as the Davy Back fight anyway. I'm also not saying it was incredible or anything either.
Regardless, I'd rather watch the Davy Back filler twice in a row over watching Rainbow Mist or Goat Island at all
Yeah, that's kind of how it works
That's also one of the best things Oda does in One Piece, there's none of this fucking "pretty crying" bullshit, you're supposed to feel the raw emotion of the character
No, she turned brutal in response to her bad situation, kind of like Doflamingo, just he started out being an asshole. Redeemed characters dealt with their bad situations generally in some way to improve themselves or others.
People have been proclaiming she made a 180, but the only thing I see is that maybe she just starts to fall for Sanji. She can remain evil, but treat Sanji well. They also think that her past has redeemed her when it really only provides background. The fact that she killed people means her past didn't justify it, as killing isn't justified. Only that it again, gives an explanation why she turned out that way. It doesn't absolve her of blame.
A lot of dumbasses jump to conclusions and are pissed.
>killing isn't justified
I don't think Luffy will do that, at least not directly.
I mean really think about, is Luffy the kind of guy to destroy a valuable memento of someone's family in front of them, even if they're evil?
How are you going to compare the Crocodile situation? Don't ignore the context that allowed Sanji to do what he did.
Franky has a good case due to his scientific knowledge. Not sure how Sanji can be argued once we take that into account. He's not exactly calm and tends to rush into things as well.
Ichiji is going to easily
job againstthe entire Big Mom crew.
Ichiji won't job.
Keep crying fag, your ship has sunk
soon hopefully. oda even put the idea out there.
So in a scale from 1 to NUCLEAR. How mad is gonna be Big Mom next chapter?
Why does this outfit look familiar?
>The fact that she killed people means her past didn't justify it, as killing isn't justified. Only that it again, gives an explanation why she turned out that way. It doesn't absolve her of blame.
No, but as we've seen with Robin, being a killer doesn't automatically mean she can't become an ally
>cover page: Kaidou encouraging the marines to use bigger bullets in a shooting squad.
>Page 1: Big mom is angry
>Page 2: She kills literally everyone on the island
>Page 3: One piece is on indefinite hiatus as Oda-Sensei is ill.
>nami was confirmed highest IQ of the east blue straw hats
When? Is she really smarter than a guy who invented a weather-changing staff?
It's heavily implied that she took on assassination jobs. Regardless, she's been working in the underworld since she was 16, and was the right-hand man of an international criminal. There's no way she has a clean slate
>1. Guy who uses a rifle as a bludgeoning object
>2. Chuuni with a needlessly complicated 10 year scheme
>3. Girl who can read maps and wears a compass-watch that looks like it came with a Happy Meal
Intelligence is scarce in the One Piece world, isn't it?
>Big Mom is killed/crippled
>Pudding take over the crew with the memory power and become a Yonko, the SH escaped to Wano
>in Wano, hijinks ensues with the samurais/shogun, but ultimately the alliance will be defeated and captured by Kaido
Carrot is killed
>Kaido heard about the ancient weapon from Caribo, take Momo and Zunisha, and head to mariejois (the reverie)
>leave Drake and Apoo to guard the captured alliance
>Drake and Apoo betrayed Kaido and allied with the SH, now they also headed to the reverie to retrieve Momo, save Shirahoshi, and other reasons (Bege wanted to kill another Yonko etc)
>Pudding allied with Kaido, Kaido give pudding the road poneglyph for the Big Mom Pirates power in the big war
>Revolutionary attack the reverie, a siege happen for weeks, the marines called in Fujitora and shichibukai for help
>Kaido alliance and zunisha arrives
>Not long after that, SH alliance arrives
>a war between RA, WG, shichibukai, Yonkos, and the SH alliance
>A huge clusterfuck, Oda promised us the end war will be bigger than the summit war
>many subplots will conclude here, zoro defeat mihawk, fishman island destroyed, shichibukai disbanded, meet vivi once more, sanji and pudding story will conclude here, robin found more poneglyphs with One Piece of the poneglyph yet to be exposed
>the RA triumphed, but all the pirates run away
>time skip a few months (or maybe not) for the last arcs (road poneglyphs islands and battle with blackbeard pirates, meeting shanks, elbaf and raftel)
I'm starting to think that neither of them will join just yet.
>This middle school edgelord shit
He's probably just going to grow a tail, while maybe even becoming leaner and use it as a weapon in Gear 5th. Or fuck, he'll find a Wukong/Son Goku Gear and stretch out his arm like a staff and fuck shit up.
It's really straight forward, fun shit you autists.
Big Mom. Your back is about to get blown out bitch.
I've read many dumb OP predictions during my life, but suggesting that big war and fall of the WG will occur before Elbaf and few years before finding Raftel and actual conclusion of the story deserves special mention.
JUST wait till Pudding gonna divorce Sanji to fuck his shit up with alimony.
>all hells break loose during the party
>it's revealed Pudding manipulated everyone's memory, many sad flashbacks
>BM starts seemingly unstoppable rampage
>Pudding and Sanji manage to create new cake, even better than the old one
> Mama calms down
>Chopper helps with her disease
>everybody kinda reconciles with everybody
>Sanji wants Pudding to join, Luffy agrees
>Pudding would want to, but can't because
mom grounded her
Mark my words.
Sanji is going to fight Ichiji for insulting Pudding.
>robin hides under mans protection until they want their dues
>destroys organization and runs away
I mean there are examples in this manga alone that portray women as bitches. Stop getting offended over something as trivial as women.
Oda is full of that teenage angst. Look at how he draws his women - literally has said he draws women for a 13 yr old boy, big butt and tits. Tsuru has the wash wash fruit. Hina has the cage fruit. Interesting that you care about angst on this site, on this board and on this manga specifically.
>the twist is she IS a harpy and so is her sister
>harpies are immortal according to legend
>like mermaids but in reverse, when they turn 30 they grow wings and bird legs
>Harpies are hunted and used for their properties in all sorts of ways
>Sugar will stay a human forever for her fruit's power, therefore never hunted
>Monet's power helps her escape better
>these are what devoted them to Dofla
This. She joined the moment she snuck on the ship. It's amazing how many people are still in denial that Carrot is now a strawhat.
>she's just another vivi/rebecca
Carrot has no ulterior motives. She only wants to have fun with her new friends.
I think you misquoted me. I provided a logical argument as to why Carrot is already a strawhat, I didn't just post a single phrase "BLANK SOON" that would be shitposting, like you just did. So next time think before you post, ne?
It's okay, honey. The wano girl will s-surely stop SaNa.
Shit meme. Like I said, this shit happened with Viola.
Why are you celebrating? Only to get BTFO yourself for real.
I'll admit BTFO if pudding joins the crew because that will confirm SaPu
>100 chapters later
>Ordinari broken evil Wano kunoichi defeated by Sanji's kindness.
>omg!!11 Sanji x ordinary Wano kunoichi confirmed, SaNa lost!11
Every time. They never ever learn.
>she outright says it
can anyone catch me up to date? I forgot the stuff that happened at the Giant Elepanth Island (God that was disappointing, basically island of furries) Where's the rest of the crew? Gotta give Oda props, this almost reminds me of Enies Lobby because it almost has the exact premise (Crew member "betrays" Luffy and the gang) but different.
*though then again "Crew Member 'betrays' Luffy" has almost been done by every East Blue Crew Member sans Zoro.
Sanji is going to take her arm and fight off everyone while she has an internal monologue on what she should do. Katakuri will have the upper hand at one point at which Pudding decides to help Sanji. This tips the tables for a SH win and they all escape with their new Baker and old Chef.
Now you are just mincing words. She outright asked if she could join. Luffy might have said no but he got distracted and didn't so she followed him and snuck on the ship. And she wants to see Elbaf so we can assume she is gonna be on the crew at least until then which is probably several arcs away. By then she will have been there longer than any guest has ever been and I don't see her leaving.
oh god no, I liked it when it was Sanji and Law because I know these guys but if Oda wastes a bunch of chapters to do a Heel Face Turn for this bitch I'm shelving this again. Not when things are finally starting to reach climax
Luffy had sex
Zolo had sex
Nami had sex
Usopp fucked 8000 girls
Sanji had sex
Robin had sex
Franky had sex
Brook had sex
Jinbe got fucked to death
kek thats pretty funny
>Luffy might have said no
>Elbaf will probably be several arcs away
if she was a guest by then she would be the longest guest but she isn't a guest
Momo is revealed to have a power to basically control Zunisha (the elephant). Jack and Kaido's henchmen jobbed, the cat duke is looking for Marco, the rest are going to Wano, also information about Wano and Poneglyphs
I wish I was good at art. I have this image in my mind that ALMOST crosses a noose with an asymptote, with Sana fanart in the noose and a crying feels guy looking at it.
>but she isn't a guest
And all you have to solidify this evidence is that you dont think she will leave. How is that any more substantial than me saying, I think she will leave? Face it, you have nothing that suggests she might join other than her being on ship. She's Kinemon, Keimi, Conis, fleet tier or any other temp but shes not joining.
>equally objective arguments
>face it you are wrong
Just because there isn't proof of her joining doesn't mean there is proof of her not joining, so if that's what you want proven you will need a better argument.
>tfw you remember the implications of how Hancock lost her virginity
>Just because there isn't proof of her joining doesn't mean there is proof of her not joining
Im circling back to anons initial argument that said Carrot was already a member. She isn't.
Replace Elfbaf with Wano.
Wano is going to have a big theme about opening their borders and ending the old code of xenophobia. This will involve the minks needing a new home and being welcomed into Wano at the end of the arc as everyone has a big change of heart due to a speech by Momo.
If you think person's intelligence can be judge by how they dress or what their accessories look like, you might not be too smart yourself.
For reference look up Einstein and his idea of smart wear.
>Not-Japan gets sexy minks as refugees
>Rest of the world gets aggressive military aged men
It's not fair.
>she's kinemon, keimi, conis
How can you be so retarded? They literally ALL either had an ulterior motive or needed help. There is literally no precedant for a character like Carrot in One Piece, trying to compare her to past girls like rebecca or vivi is asinine.
There's literally never been a situation like this, where a non-crew member simply wants to sail and hang out with the crew, and is willing to bribe and sneak around to achieve that goal. Sure, if you think Carrot isn't joining, I'll listen to your arguments, the most convincing one is that she'll get dropped off on Wano for some reason. But trying to use PAST characters as a reason why a PRESENT charcter won't join, when they're not even comparable, is retarded.
I'm a speedreader. Can a nice Anon tell me why Judge didn't just kill Sanji off and be done with it when he was a kid? Why did he let him flee?
She was all excited about seeing giants when they talked about Elbaf in the bathroom.
Carrot doesn't have anything else to do. That's the main thing people who keep comparing her to guests don't get. They all have something they need to leave to do. She doesn't.
>Can fight and is furthermore the first to fly into a battle
>Simpleminded enough to get involved with the goofy antics of Luffy/Chopper/Ussop whereas Robin is too mature and Nami is too much of a bitch
She's a great cabin girl character.
The thing about all of the guests that have joined so far is that they have joined with the intentions of something less nebulous than what Carrot joined with. Vivi needed to get to her country, Momo and Kinemon need to get to theirs, the only other one I can think of that doesn't have an obvious exit point is Caesar, so while you may be right and Oda is just making the newer guests less obviously plot devices, I'm not sure if examples pre-timeskip will say anything about what the guests might look like post-timeskip.
>Oda is a slave to editors
yes yes, and one piece went to shit after the timeskip, we've all heard this slander before. why even bother reading one piece if you think oda is that much of a pushover? you wouldn't rather believe he's drawing the characters he enjoys drawing?
Youre going to ignore the cute-ification of chopper? Or deny that cute things are appealling to younger audience? Or it's just coincidence that carrot is cute, happy-go-lucky and heavily marketable?
OR Oda simply started enjoying drawing cute things.
all good arguments as to why Carrot would join
so far the only good argument for Carrot not joining the crew. lots of shitty arguments tho, why does fur trigger people so hard?
He doesn't have a court aside from his retainers, and I highly doubt that those retainers would be comfortable letting him put himself in danger as a pirate while they are safe on Wano.
Just out of curiosity;
How many people in this thread right now has fapped to One Piece related things? Be honest.
What was the One Piece related subject in question?
I've never fapped to anything anime, ever
>This is why they fed the sisters zoan fruits
The only problem is her complete lack of character. She's a genki girl who would be indistinguishable from a female Luffy and her fight style is almost exactly like Sanji's but with more electicity. I love Carrot, but I can't see what good can she bring to the crew.
Yes, with them along to watch over him to ensure his safety. If something were to happen to him while they were unable to protect them it would be the ultimate dishonor and shame.
>why does fur trigger people so hard?
I'm a Carrot fag but I agree that fur is a slippery slope, let that shit get too much of a foothold and every thread with be a circlejerk of mink larpers.
Im saying she is a fabricated character for the sole purpose of being cute and happy. She has no role in the story other than to be here for the time being. Once the time being is over, she will help the rest of the minks with their portion of the plot.
for when this inevitably happens I call dibs on baron bones.
>I can't see what good she can bring to the crew
Did...did you even read Whole Cake Island?
SpeeD Reader here, can anyone tell my why Zoro, Franky, Usopp and Robin aren't here?
We're never gonna get an arc like Enies Lobby or Alabasta where the Straw Hat each have opponents of equal stature aren't we?
Being a Waifu-4-Nakama fag is suffering.
I've put forward my arguments about what the honorbound samurai retainers would do in the situation you are describing, if you disagree then there really isn't anything left but to wait until the end of Wano in the next 2-3 years to see who is right.
>fur is a slippery slope
No it's really not, as much as you and everyone else would like to believe. It's literally just a couple people talking about carrot and posting some fanart, the SAME thing people do with nami or vivi.
>fujo is a slippery slope, let that shit get too much of a foothold and every thread will be a fujo circlejerk
The "slippery slope" you're talking about happened with fujos on /co/, and guess what, it's really not bad at all. Like one shitty thread a day, who cares?
You should probably re-read Zou. They're headed to Wano, along with Law.
>We're never gonna get an arc like Enies Lobby or Alabasta where the Straw Hat each have opponents of equal stature aren't we?
In the fight against the BB Pirates, maybe.
>denies chopper being cuter
This was never said, but people with tinfoil theories don't usually have great reading comprehension. You can't prove that Oda is or is not in charge of One Piece character designs which is what your argument rests on.
>Carrot can go for days without needing rest
Just what are you implying?
Is this a picture of you?
Yeah, you did, retard. Reread whole cake island. "Carrot has nothing to bring to the table"
>can jump extremely high
>as strong as pedro with a 300,000,000 bounty
>has the "float" business, probably a tail technique or something
>always ready for a fight, the first to charge forward while nami retreats
>can draw extremely well
>oh yeah that "full moon" mink thing
>an overall fun to watch brawler
yeah, what a useless boring character
Well, you're shitposting tinfoil theories about how Oda can't write his manga any more, and we are speculating on which of the current guest crewmembers are going to be permanent additions, if any.
She can join the crew and still pander to a younger audience anon. If you are the tinfoil chopper guy, he's proof enough to you that there exist characters on the permanent crew that do exactly that.
C'mon guys it's pretty obvious why he has the eye closed all the time, any fool could see it
Calling me a retard while thinking that utility is enough for character to be good. I'm speaking about dynamic.
And how does that make you less wrong about chopper you chopper design conspiracy theory?
already addressed this here>>155928538
Nobody is saying that Chopper isn't cuter than he was pre-timeskip, but saying that that is exclusively on behalf of the editors of the series pressuring Oda into writing him that way is something completely unverifiable.
>I'm not satisfied with Carrot
Too bad, everyone else is.
>these characters are vaguely similar so only one of them can be on the permanent crew
>sanji and zoro both fight good but they aren't necessary because we already have luffy
Your argument is bad, I would really suggest not posting further.
>im speaking about dynamic
ohhh i get it, you never read whole cake island, so you're completely unaware of her dynamic with the crew
Why would the Tenryuubito kidnap a little girl?
Ay, I wanted to know what you guys thought of Film Gold.
I actually liked it a lot, it felt like a mini arc on par with Dressrosa, though I liked Tesoro more then Doffy.
Doffy may be stronger/more cunning then Tesoro but all we really saw him do on screen was throw an autistic fit every time things don't go his way.
They also don't try too hard with Tesoros backstory and i fucking love that, just straight to the point with no bullshit, you can feel sorry for him if you want or not.
This might just be me but i can't help feel angry every time the Celestial Dragons are involved, made me feel a little more Tesoro then a former CD.
Over all very enjoyable if film if not for the obligatory forced sob-story with the poor little kids that is in literally every fucking arc/movie in one piece.
Has Oda said anything about it being canon?
I know it had a tie in with the anime but not much else.
Also OST is banging
The only reason you are denying the chopper got cuter "conspiracy" is because you believe it to be the crux of my argument. Chopper got cuter. Kids like cute things. There is no conspiracy here.
Speculation about where a series will go and declaration that One Piece is written by editors are not remotely the same claims. You are trying to use real world tinfoil hat theories to justify speculation about a series, that doesn't work.
Depends on the context. I have a hard time fapping to OP doujins unless the guys are literally whos. I just can't imagine any of the guys getting any. Just seems too out of character.
Is that also why Sanji was hitting on Nami during Z?
Alright then what does chopper getting cuter have anything to do with carrot? He did, she is cute, therefore she can't join? What a fine argument, Nami got bigger breasts, guess we have to kick Robin off the crew because hers are too big when combined with Nami's.
>when the crew goes "EHHH?" and carrot is super high in the air
this gave me a chuckle, carrot's had some pretty good gags so far
First half hour of Gold is great fun, amazing music and visuals. But then it becomes bogged down in a heist plot which is cool in theory but boring in execution. Literally the only highlight was seeing the Strawhats roleplaying as Celestial Dragons.
If you ask me the film may have worked out better if the villain had been changed to someone with the Luck fruit. Make Tesoro a rival-type character and merge him thematically with Raise Max. In fact keep that name because it's ballin'.
Also remove Nami's childhood friend, literally fucking pointless subplot. Instead Raise Max/Tesoro is the one to purpose the heist then seemingly betray the Strawhats. At the end though he wraps Luffy up in that power-up gold armor and he Golden G4's all over the antagonist.
The fuck are you trying to say with that? That because some IRL desicions are driven by marketing, all of the are driven by marketing? Don't you have any idea how reasoning works?
They probably didn't know what it did, making slaves eat random DF's and get weirdo bodies is top entertainment for the elite. Even BM's weirdly crying giraffe juice doesn't hold up.
That's the line of your reasoning. It's either that or you don't even have an argument, because that would mean that there's no connection between Carrot, Chopper, marketing and your argument
You are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable. If we want to get into critical reasoning, Carrotfags are making the claim she will join. The burden of proof is on you. Maybe then I can swing extremes on all of your claims to muddy your points.
we found out from pedro's fight that the "float" business is them using their tail
so whatever carrot did was some sort of "tail double jump" which oda probably realized doesn't make much sense since she should only be able to wiggle her tail.
>She is a guest character that doesn't have an obvious exit point or plot device to justify leaving
but Oda merchandises so she can't join, I guess I really am stupid because Chopper as a character eliminates the possibility of ever having a character even remotely similar to him on the crew.
Yea i agree but as this >>155929559
guy said it was executed a little sloppy.
But we could sit her till the sun dies but at the end of the day it is a jump titel si the fights are what gets the most focus.
Not that im complaning about the fights in this Movie.
I thought the weakest character in Gold was by far Namis friend too.
She just kinda shows up and becomes a gateway to whatever the director wanted to happen, with the stupid unreliable flashbacks that don't actually tell you the whole story.
God i fucking hate flashbacks like that, cheapest way to induce so shock factor.
I was actually happy when she said we should just forget about the past where she "leves" Nami because that actually seems like something a pirate would do.
>so whatever carrot did was some sort of "tail double jump" which oda probably realized doesn't make much sense since she should only be able to wiggle her tail.
Minks have OBSCENE physical strength, even their basic civilians can hold their own against fighters from an emperors crew. They're basically chimera ants. I won't be surprised if minks end up being related to zoan fruits in some way.
>goes out of her way to save a frog
>has quite the throwing arm
If you seriously think carrot is a stale character you need to slow down and read WCI at a reasonable pace.
>look at carrotfags
>having an actual argument, trading ideas
>look at sanafags
>literally just shitposting with no coherant ideas
yeah sure anon
Right, but we're still not sure if she was joking
Robin's teasing is part of why she's so great
Reminder that Katakuri did NOT job. So suck on his jellybeans and die, you disgusting jobberfaggots.
>denies any claim against their fragile belief
and what claim is that? carrot leaving at wano? literally haven't seen any claims like you're talking about in this entire thread
I guess I think so because he doesn't feel like a One Piece character with the all black design. Doflamingo looked flamboyant with his flamingo coat and his weird ass sunglasses, I imagine he has to have some gag to make him fit in with the crew of big mom.
I would say luffy has advanced CoA, since he was able to combine CoA with his devil fruit powers in g4, despite haki negating a devil fruit users intangibility. Another form of advanced CoA is this guy, who could use a haki fan to make powerful gusts of wind, and could even willfully change the shape of objects with his haki.
Best girl better be at the reverie. I want my Strawhat fangirl club with her, Vivi, Shirahoshi and Rebecca.
>despite haki negating a devil fruit users intangibility
It doesn't work like this. It let's the user hit the "real body" of the target, but the intangibility should stay the same (if for example someone else tried to hit them at the same time).
But what IF luffy broke his doffy's glasses during the fight?
>Vivi mentions the time Luffy peeked on her in the baths
>Shirahoshi talks about how he bounced all over her breasts
>Rebecca brings up pic related
Poor Boa. She already torments herself with daily fantasies of Luffy fucking Robin/Nami, she doesn't need any more stress.
I read the last 50 chapters
My theory died... so sad
Yeah, I'm sure Hancock and her sisters are going to willingly stroll into the place where they used to be held as slaves
>isn't remotely canon
Pretty sure Oda wouldn't let one piece fans be misled as to how haki works. Sure the events that transpired aren't canon, but the way haki is shown to work is most definitely how it works in the manga, Oda has no reason outright lie to his readers.
she's a sanctioned pirate, why would she be at the reverie? the only reason she's a shichibukai is to protect amazon lily FROM the world government, her attendance would be contradictory